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Speaker 1: Every year, thousands of convicted drunk drivers and received a

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Speaker 1: Ignition interlocked devices, or I I d s are designed

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, But according to Pennsylvania State Police, Waynesboro resident

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Speaker 1: Angela day walt is charged with a d y endangering

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Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible, A drount mom uses her little girl's breath

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. I just don't get it. A woman who

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Speaker 1: way I see it. It's not just driving drunk. It's

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Speaker 1: potential murder because I have seen so many vehicular homicides

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Speaker 1: Ethan Couch driving under the Influence. He killed four people

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Speaker 1: with me, Alan the Duke. Duke, Alan, you don't have

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Speaker 1: The technology development adding these two cars has actually allowed

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you this much, Alan, you don't

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