1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: H'm Stephen Carroll and here are your top stories. UK 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: pension funds that oversee more than three hundred billion pounds 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: in assets have fired back against a move to loosen 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: listing rules in Britain. Writing in The Times, the ten funds, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: including schemes for BT and HSBC, say the plan would 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: damage the city's reputation and risk reducing investor returns. The 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: criticism comes ahead of today's City UK annual conference. Their CEO, 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Miles Seleek, double down on the need for reform. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: There's no magic bullet that New York could fire, or 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: that Brussels could fire for any of its centers, or 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Hong Kong or Singapore. This is always a case of 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: making sure that you're refining regulation, refining practice, ensuring that 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: you've got the right talent in place, and making sure 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: that you're moving forward with a sensible set of reforms. 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: That's a UK CEO, Miles Selek speaking there to Caroline 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Hepcro and we'll be joining Caroline in a moment live 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: from that conference with more coverage on the future of 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: the City of London. Meanwhile, This picked London as the 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: home of its first corporate office outside the United states. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Boomberg's New and Parts has the story. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Chut gpt tell me where I should open my next office? Well, 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: the answer for open Ai, the sab Francisco based company 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: behind the AI chatbots, is London. The move is a 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: boost for the UK in its growing rivalry with France 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: to become the tech center of Europe. While in London, 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: the open Ai CEO Sam Altman met with PM Richie 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Sunac and later criticized the European Union's approach to artificial 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: intelligence regulation. The company, which has raised more than ten 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: billion dollars, has been on a hiring speed recently as 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: it works to turn its costly AI research into a 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: business in London. Not yet replaced by a bot, i'm 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: ew and Potts bloom Book day Break. 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: Europe. 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Wall Street's biggest banks have all passed the Federal Reserve's 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: annual stress test. The results determine how much capital banks 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: need to set aside as a cushion, and potentially clear 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: the way for additional dividends and stock buybacks. Bloomberg's Wall 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Street correspondent Shinali Basek says that many banks hold off 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: may hold on announcing potential payouts. 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: You also have to think about the other constraints these 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 5: banks are facing as well. They've already guided that with 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 5: international rules Basil three endgame that there could be a 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: sense that there's really a lot more on the horizon 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: that these banks might face when it comes to future 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: regulation that could really start to constrain capital. 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: Chanali Bask says Will the FAD hasn't yet published its proposals. 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Jerome Power has suggested that the biggest banks could face 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: a twenty percent increase in capital requirements. The Bank of 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: England Governor Andrew Bailey suggested that markets are underestimating how 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: long rates will need to stay high. Here's what he 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: told the ECB Forum on Central Banking in CenTra. 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: There are two parts to this. There's where the peak 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: is and then how long it's sustained beyond that. I 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: think both of those are relevant. Both of those are 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: things that will I mean, sorry to state the blant 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: and the obvious will emerge with time. But I've always 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: been interested that the market thinks that the peak will 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: be quite short lived in a world where we're dealing 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: with more persistent inflation. 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Bailey's comments are at odds with money markets. Traders are 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: betting the benchmark Bank of England rate will peak below 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: six and a quarter percent by February and remain on 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: hold for six months. However, Schroeders is now up its 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: forecast for the BOE. They say the UK is heading 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: for interest rates of six and a half percent this year. 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: With the Bank of England firmly set on prioritizing inflation 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: over growth. Andrew Bailey wasn't the only one using the 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: centro form to push back against the market narrative. Federal 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Reserve Chief Jerown Power left the door open to two 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: consecutive rate hikes following this month's pause. 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 6: We're going to move the decisions a little bit, make 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 6: them a little bit with a little bit more time 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 6: in between them, in an effort to get more information 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 6: from the data, to see how much restraint is really 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 6: coming from these, you know, through the pipeline from rate 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: hikes that we only made now in many cases six 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 6: to eight nine months ago. But I wouldn't take, you know, 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 6: moving at consecutive meetings off the table at all. 79 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Powell and his FAD colleagues will get another reading on 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: inflation on Friday with the release of May's p data. 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: The Center Bank's favorite price measure, and the Katari group, 82 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: led by Sheik jasanbil Binhammad Altani, is increasingly confident that 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: it has won the bidding war from Manchester United. Bloomberg 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: understands the rival offer from British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe has 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: been opposed by some shareholders. The sale of the English 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: Premier League club has been hit with delays as the 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: bids failed to meet expectations of the current owners. The 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Glazers could make a last minute decision to keep hold 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: of the football club, accepting funds from an outside investor. 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: So those are our top stories on the program this morning. 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Beyonce back in the inflation news the new BW newsletter 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: from our colleagues at Bloomberg BusinessWeek highlighting again this effect 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: that Beyonce concert tickets may have had on inflation. Of course, 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: we've talked about the story in relation to Sweden, but 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: there's also interesting research out from UBS, highlighted by our 96 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: colleague and decurrent, about how this might have impacted inflation 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: in the UK, where Beyonce's World Renaissance tour tickets read 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: reached as much as one hundred and seventy pounds per person. 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Now this is an interesting detail that pulled on from 100 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Ubs is making in this commentary saying that Beyonce's ticket 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: price can be compared to the price of whatever concerts 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: took place in April, regardless of the caliber of the artists, 103 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: so that a price increase for a Beyonce ticket is 104 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: actually being compared as a like for like price increase, 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: whereas actually it doesn't reflect the subjective nature of how 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: good an artist is and what they can command in 107 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: terms of ticket prices. As well, pulled on pointing out 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the complication of how a clean price in increase can 109 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: be calculated. It's worth pointing out the concert tickets don't 110 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: have the same weight in UK inflation readings as elsewhere, 111 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: so perhaps not entirely down to Beyonce the increase in 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: inflation rather than sticky inflation here in the UK. Of course, 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that's one of the big challenges being discussed at the 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: City UK conference. We've also reporting this morning. Pension funds 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: representing twenty two million UK savers say that loosening the 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: City of London's listing rules will roll back fundamental investor 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: protections and the ability of penance schemes to act as 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: robust stewards of their members assets they want the Financial 119 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Conduct Authority, which put forward the plan to pause on 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: the listing reforms another big topic being discussed at the 121 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: City UK conference. That's where Caroline Hepker is this morning. 122 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Caroline. 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 7: Good morning, bright and early. We are in the center 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 7: of London. We're only a stone swow from Westminster Abbey 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 7: and from the Houses of Parliament and this is where 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 7: some of the biggest names in finance are going to 127 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 7: be gathering for the annual conference of the City UK, 128 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 7: the Lobby Group. The idea of this story in The 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 7: Times I think is quite interesting. It's a specific question 130 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 7: around rule changes that I think we're going to explore 131 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 7: the annual conference today. I'm chairing the opening panel and 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 7: I think it is part of Ridio schism at the moment. 133 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 7: How consequential are the Edinburgh reforms. This is the package 134 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 7: of reforms that the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt announced in December 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 7: that includes changes to listing rules, other ideas like relaxing 136 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 7: ring fencing rules and much more. Besides, actually how much 137 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 7: is that going to move the needle for London? Because 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 7: there are many critics and many people who are concerned 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 7: about you know, powers taking over in terms of the 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 7: largest stock market trading venue in Europe. The UK, you know, 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 7: going into recession potentially at the end of this year 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 7: according to Blueberg Economics, and the hit that the UK 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 7: has taken in terms of loss of competitiveness and the 144 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 7: investment gap. 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 8: That the UK has. 146 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 7: So I was speaking to Marles Selleck, who's the CEO 147 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 7: of the City UK. He spoke to me just ahead 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 7: of the events that are starting in just a few 149 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 7: minutes in the UK. He's talked about there being a 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 7: lot of political and policy uncertainty in the UK in 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 7: recent years, but that it's right that the government is 152 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 7: moving forwards in a measured and consultative manner when it 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: comes to these reforms, the Edinburgh Reforms Financial Services and 154 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 7: Markets Bill being he says, arguably the most consequential piece 155 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 7: of financial services legislation for the last two decades. One 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 7: of the bigger context though, as I say, is this 157 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 7: question mark around the solidity of the UK economically and 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 7: also in terms of the political decisions that we've had. 159 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 7: So I asked Miles Selik whether he actually thinks that 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 7: the UK is in a mess or not, which is 161 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 7: what some people allege have I listened to his view. 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: So, look, that was something of a shock to the system. 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: It was something of a shock and a surprise to 164 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: many of our international accountants. In terms of how that 165 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: was taken forward. The government appears to be absolutely focused 166 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: on reassuring people that international investors, in particular, that the 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: UK is a stable, predictable kind of place to do business. 168 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: It's something that we've done extremely well for decades, and 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: this is why the mini budget last year got the 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: focus that it did. It was very unusual compared to 171 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: what international investors would normally expect from the UK. Certainly 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: in the conversations that I've had with international counterparts I've 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: been over the course of the last few weeks in India, 174 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: in the US, in Hong Kong and elsewhere, I think 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: there is absolutely a sense that the UK is back 176 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: towards its more traditional, more long term approach of having 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: a more technocratic, more stable, more predictable approach to policymaking. 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: And I go further, you know, this is not just 179 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: about what happened last summer. The UK has been unpredictable 180 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: for a little while, and that's partly Brexit, It's partly 181 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: in fact, some people go as far back as the 182 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: Scottish independence referend You know, I think everybody is looking 183 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: forward to the UK continuing to show that it is 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: perhaps a little boring in some ways, a little predictable 185 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: in political circumstances, but exciting and innovative in terms of 186 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: the kind of economic environment that we can offer. 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 8: I just want to press you on one last point. 188 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 8: Right at the beginning, I asked you whether the UK 189 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 8: was a mess or not. I mean there is some 190 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 8: foundation for that, in the sense the weight of the 191 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 8: number of people who have talked about issues in the UK, 192 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 8: from James Diis, the M and S chairman Arty Normal 193 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 8: that I was speaking to in a few weeks ago, 194 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 8: the UK CEO of sax Bank saying that the UK 195 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 8: was in a financial straight jacket. It does feel like 196 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 8: this is a very difficult moment for the UK and 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 8: that we do need to chart a course out of this. 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 8: This is a kind of a moment where there's been 199 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 8: a lot of criticism about the UK and how it's 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 8: been run. 201 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: So I'm certainly not underestimating the short term challenges. Well, 202 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: I would say I would happily admit that I am 203 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: long term, medium to long term. I'm an optimist about 204 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: the UK. I think there are a variety of factors 205 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: both strong long term advantages the UK has got as 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: an economy and as an international financial center that will 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: play extremely well. The quality of the people that we've 208 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: got here, the quality of the institutions, the English and 209 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: Welsh law that we have here, language etc. All of 210 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: the universities, education, all of which point to a number 211 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: of long term advantages. There are absolutely challenges that we 212 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: need to address and that the financial services markets build. 213 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: The Edinburgh reforms and others are pointing towards, But I'm 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: a big believer in revealed preference and the reality is 215 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: that we have got hundreds of thousands of highly talented, 216 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: highly skilled individuals who are coming to the UK. We 217 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: could have even more, frankly, if we continue to work 218 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: with the government and the regulators to get the senior 219 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: manager regime in the right place and immigration in the 220 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: right place. People don't tend to flock to places they 221 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: think don't have a future, and I think it's important 222 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: to manage the difference between short term challenges that the 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: UK has had in the past, that France, Germany the 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: United States have had in the past versus what are 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: the fundamentals And for me, the fundamentals are encouraging. 226 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: So that was Miles Salek, the CEO of the City UK, 227 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: speaking to Caroline. 228 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: There. 229 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Caroline, you'll be back more with more coverage from the 230 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: conference too. 231 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 232 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 233 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 7: So later on this morning, I'm going to be speaking 234 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 7: to John Hayward, who is the Corporation of London's policy chief. 235 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 7: Also will be hearing from the FCA, the Financial Conduct Authorities. 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 7: I think that'll be very interesting. And at nine thirty 237 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 7: am we will bring you the panel that I'm hosting 238 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 7: at the start of the City UK's event, with Gareth 239 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 7: Davies who's the Exchequer Secuary for the Treasury, Judi Hoggart 240 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 7: who's the CEO of the London Stock Exchange, Chris Lay 241 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 7: who's the CEO of Marsh mcclennan, and Tina Lee, the 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: CEO for the Uken Ireland of Deutsche Banks. So they'll 243 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 7: be joining us this morning and that'll be life on 244 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 7: Blueberg Radio. 245 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Stephen Okay, plenty to watch out for for now, Caroline, 246 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Up next, A River of Debt 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: sings Thames Water and PwC tells staff to expect smaller 248 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: pay rises. 249 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: Now the paper review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe the 250 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: news you need to know from today's papers, and. 251 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Leanne Garrinson is with us in studio to look through 252 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: some of the stories in today's paper. Is Thames Water 253 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: on a lot of front pages this morning, lean the 254 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: headline and the Guardian Thameswater and crisis over potential ten 255 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: billion pounds black hole. 256 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 9: Pol Stephen. This has been a worrying prospect for so 257 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 9: many people as Thames Water is so prevalent, a lot 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: of us do use it and a lot of households 259 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 9: reliant on Thames Water. Now, according to the Guardian, rescue 260 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 9: measures are under discussion among ministers and also regulators, and 261 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 9: this includes placing Thames Water into temporary national ownership, and 262 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 9: that's in order to secure a refinancing package. The paper 263 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 9: says the package would need public funds and could also 264 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 9: lead to higher bills for customers, so that's something difficult 265 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 9: as we are struggling with the cost of living crisis. 266 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 9: It quotes an unnamed minister who says the government has 267 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 9: no true grasp on the cost or how much support 268 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 9: might ultimately be needed from the taxpayer for Thames Water, 269 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 9: so concerning news coming out of the Guardian there. The 270 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 9: newspaper also reveals the company could be facing a whole 271 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 9: of ten billion pounds in its finances and Thames Water, 272 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 9: as I said earlier, England's largest water company providing water 273 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 9: to ten million customers and wastewater treats meant to fifteen 274 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 9: million people. But we must remember that plans are in 275 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 9: place to avert a crisis according to the government at 276 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 9: the moment. 277 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. 278 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: In our colleagues Alex wickhaman Alamelegan report this morning on 279 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: how this is a danger for Rishi Sunak as well 280 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: and the government's record and handling these sorts of crises. 281 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Let's go next, lean to the Financial Times. PwC tells 282 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: UK staff to expect smaller pay rises and bonuses. 283 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly so PwC. Of course, Stephen, one of the 284 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 9: Big Four, has told it's twenty five thousand UK staff 285 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 9: to expect smaller pay rises and bonuses, if not freezes 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 9: this year because of the challenging market conditions that the 287 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 9: company is facing. Now. This news comes despite industry calls 288 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 9: to catch up with the stubbornly high inflation that we 289 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 9: are seeing some salary bands are to be frozen for 290 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 9: some junior auditors, despite calls, as I said, to really 291 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 9: catch up with inflation. Junior auditors we're told on a 292 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 9: webcast if they salaries aren't frozen, they'll see an increase 293 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 9: of three or six percent and that is of course 294 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 9: resulting in a real terms pay cut. So one of 295 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 9: the big four there with the warning. 296 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting stuff in the Financial Times, Lean Goerrens. Thank 297 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you very much for that review of the newspapers. 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