WEBVTT - Alien: Earth Episode 7

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode contains spoilers for Alien Earth episode seven Emergence

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<v Speaker 2>be Warner. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Rosey Night and welcome back to ext Revision of the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast where we dive the your favorite shows, movies, comics

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<v Speaker 2>of pop culture, comedy from my Heart will bring you

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<v Speaker 2>three episodes a week, plus news, same plus news.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, we are opening the air locom walking

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<v Speaker 3>into the very dangerous realm of Alien Half episode seven.

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<v Speaker 3>We are going to be recapping it, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>will be joined by Joel and Common to speculate about

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<v Speaker 3>upcoming finale. Joel, do you want to be in for

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<v Speaker 3>the recap too? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hang out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay. We are joined by super producer Joel to

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<v Speaker 3>do our recap and then will be bringing in Common

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<v Speaker 3>to speculate about the upcoming Binali. But first let's do it, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's freak out time. Emergence Alien Earth episode seven slightly

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<v Speaker 2>has dragged Arthur and the Face Hugger to his room

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<v Speaker 2>all alone through the vent system.

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<v Speaker 3>I just there's what I mean. They go to have

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<v Speaker 3>bed a security. I know I'm repeating myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I mean, it's insane that.

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<v Speaker 3>He vent system as well that like you call, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like there should be a camera in the event

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<v Speaker 3>at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to get this further out of the way. Also

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<v Speaker 2>before we really get into it, he got Arthur there

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<v Speaker 2>alone but then needs help getting him to the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't need help getting into the beach. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have carried him shoulder to the beach by himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oging something from the stand like a second person.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get it? But he can jump one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>feet off a canyon and land on his feet. Yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and he dragged own deadweight man alone through the events

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<v Speaker 2>like he can.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say anyway, there is there is a power

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<v Speaker 3>and consistency issue with hybrids are allowed. It does a

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<v Speaker 3>ky in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So he quite charmingly is is concerned that the face

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<v Speaker 2>hugger is not letting Arthur breathe, so he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>like move the legs over a little bit so there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a little breathing hole. Of course that we know

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<v Speaker 2>that that's not going to work. Face Hugger just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tightens on Arthur's.

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing some water, and he's like, is he choking

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<v Speaker 1>the storm?

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't they should have looked for that.

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<v Speaker 3>They should have had these hybrids, Like when they saw

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff happening, they should have made them watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>They saw how scared they were. That could have been

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<v Speaker 3>a good way to stop them getting involved.

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<v Speaker 2>A lad too late, it's too late for all of this. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a knock it Smee. Smee first forces his way

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<v Speaker 2>in because he's like, you're in there, you're doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes in there, sees Arthur's arms sticking out under the bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and slightly is like trying to tell Smee everything in

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<v Speaker 2>this like burst of emotion, like my family, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>murder them, and I need your help, and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean to do it. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna happen, but they have my mom and Smee

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<v Speaker 2>is of course too panic to process any of this

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. All that really cuts through is slightly

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<v Speaker 2>telling me I need your help to get this guy

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<v Speaker 2>to the beach. Help me, and he agrees. Meanwhile, alarms

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<v Speaker 2>are going off, finally going off down in the lab.

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<v Speaker 3>How did it take this long? Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Why now? And not before?

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you, guys, I feel like you know

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<v Speaker 3>Noah Holy. He's the kind of guy where people are like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a plan, He's got a scheme, He's like

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<v Speaker 3>laying it all out. He knows the long game. I

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<v Speaker 3>want no Holy to one there and explain the security systems.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to see the blueprints because I'm having issues

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<v Speaker 3>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be that Kersh suppressed the alarms till now.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that generally he's he's doing some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shenanigans.

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<v Speaker 2>But it'd be great to know for sure, Like what anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So the bugs are flying all over the place. They're

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<v Speaker 2>spitting acid on like every thing that's metal or plastic

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<v Speaker 2>so that they can eat it. Two guards enter after

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<v Speaker 2>Curse overrides the doors. They like shock the bugs with

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<v Speaker 2>the batons and they get them into containers and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's safe for boy Genius to come down. He comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and Borgenius sees that Toodles is melted and dead

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<v Speaker 2>and that's six billion down the drain. Kersh tells Boy Genius,

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<v Speaker 2>this was not an accident. It wasn't like kids messing around.

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<v Speaker 2>This happened on purpose. Let's watch the tape. They watch

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<v Speaker 2>the tape and it's clear that the eye will call

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<v Speaker 2>the sheet who will will will call either the Eye

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<v Speaker 2>or the sheep interchangeably over the course of this recap

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<v Speaker 2>plan this, and boy Genius is like, Wow, that's so cool,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so exciting. I want to study the eye further.

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy comes down, sees tootles and realizes is like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. She gets the infuriating answer that science happened

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<v Speaker 2>from ker crazy I would yeah. Wendy then realizes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, we can die, and then realizes furthermore

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<v Speaker 2>that nothing about what they're doing is safe. She tries

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<v Speaker 2>to leave. The guards stand in her way for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she like whisper, whispers something or like hunger games,

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<v Speaker 2>whistles something to her alien, and the alien bangs on

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<v Speaker 2>the glass like hey, let go on, my mom, and

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<v Speaker 2>boy Genius realizes that as she leaves, realizes that, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy's going to go tell the rest of the Sense

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, Like okay, let's make sure that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Kurse then realizes all the trackers on the Sense are off,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now as Wendy walks out the door, no

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<v Speaker 2>one knows where anybody is. That they're all in the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy tells her brother what has happened that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Toodles is dead, Tootles slash, Isaac is dead and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not safe, YadA YadA. Joe's like, okay, we gotta leave.

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<v Speaker 2>We're leaving. I conspired with Arthur to turn off your

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<v Speaker 2>trackers so we can leave. We can get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>And She's like, well, we got to get the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody, and Joe's like no, you fucking know, just

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<v Speaker 2>you and me, like let's get out of here, but

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy has her way. They go to see Nibs. Curly

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<v Speaker 2>is there too. Curly thinks that whatever Wendy said freaked

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<v Speaker 2>out Nibs, and Wendy's like no, because they raised.

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<v Speaker 1>Her memory and all this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nibs, meanwhile, is the reboot clearly didn't work because

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<v Speaker 2>she's adamant in a scary and ominous way that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>is ever going to mess with her insides again. We

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<v Speaker 2>get more Epstein Island. Wendy tells them listen, Isaac is dead, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to leave because they're doing bad stuff here.

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<v Speaker 2>Curly is like, how dare you talk about boy genius

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<v Speaker 2>that way? Gilled. She's you don't understand him, and you

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you don't get it. When is the best

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<v Speaker 2>place I've ever been? That's right, And so clearly Curly

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<v Speaker 2>is going to stay. But Wendy makes her promise like

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell boy genius, and I actually think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>chance because clearly Curly sees this as her opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>be the best kid, the most favorite kid.

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<v Speaker 3>So she might keep the secret if it means she

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<v Speaker 3>can be the best kid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wendy, I guess, feels like they need a distraction.

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<v Speaker 2>So she hacks into the security system with her little

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<v Speaker 2>uh finger touch and opens the xenomorph cage, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one way I think to that abstraction. Maybe there were

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<v Speaker 2>other ways, but this is the way that.

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<v Speaker 1>She chose the best and easiest DI strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again this is no critique of Wendy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is a good distraction. I am once again

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<v Speaker 3>back to the security system. Sere the moment that you

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<v Speaker 3>realized there were like dangerous animals in here, you should

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<v Speaker 3>have just put two and two together, like, oh, she

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<v Speaker 3>can literally like communicate and control. They didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the authorization code. They need your something.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just file the doors.

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<v Speaker 3>The robot has to say something, and then an adam

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<v Speaker 3>has to say something.

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be there physically, like one person in the

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<v Speaker 2>control room and one person physically at the door before unlock.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Same way. They shouldn't have sent poor old Isaac down

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<v Speaker 3>there either, Like there was a terrible idea that that child.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm beginning to realize that Kirsh played all

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<v Speaker 2>this anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I think has been enjoying a lot of experimentation on

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<v Speaker 3>boy Genius's dime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the xenomorph gets out and immediately murks like

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<v Speaker 2>three four cleaners in the lab and nothing is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stop it. Dame is sadly looking at pictures of her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>who she thinks is still alive but merely fired from

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<v Speaker 2>the company. When Boi g comes this here and he's

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<v Speaker 2>so pissed. He's like, Arthur turned the synth trackers off?

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you known about it?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna tell me you don't know anything what's going

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<v Speaker 2>And Dame is like what who?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't know? And then it's the sound of

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<v Speaker 2>the breech alarms going off. That finally breaks this conversation off,

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<v Speaker 2>and boy Genius realizes, oh shit, the creatures are out. Meanwhile, Slightly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's me here carrying Arthur in the huger to the

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<v Speaker 2>beach when Kersh finds them and slightly immediately spills everything

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<v Speaker 2>about Morrow, and Curseh's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I know about that. I don't give a

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<v Speaker 2>shit about that. Here's the problem, because you guys need

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<v Speaker 2>to take the secure elevator because that's the fastest one

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<v Speaker 2>to the Oh my god, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I saw the people come invade the island. Please

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<v Speaker 1>go interact with them that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, curse.

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<v Speaker 1>Were enough.

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<v Speaker 4>We weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, we were absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>We were absolutely we were right from very early on

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<v Speaker 2>that he is a plant. Yes, okay, So Wendy, NIBBs

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<v Speaker 2>and Joe are out there in the jungle trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the boat, and that's when they come to

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<v Speaker 2>is this the official graveyard of the kids? Why did

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<v Speaker 2>they listen? I'm glad they did this.

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<v Speaker 3>But also why did I make it like a pet

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<v Speaker 3>cemetery or something like this is like inevitably gonna be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you why would you do this, Why would

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<v Speaker 2>you actually put up a graveyard? Why wouldn't you just

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<v Speaker 2>bury him in a pit and not leave anybody? Very

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<v Speaker 2>confusing and the people working, I think this is and Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was gonna say yeah, because author and.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids were holding when they were on the table are

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<v Speaker 1>placed on top of the graves. They were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that insisted that it's really important to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the children age gradually into adulthood. I think they're the

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<v Speaker 1>only people that we've seen have any kind of respect

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<v Speaker 1>for like human life decency.

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<v Speaker 3>So in this case, I guess it's weird choice, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it was them.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Yeah, yeah, you're you're probably right, certainly, Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>more than more than Damy. Let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were right back with a bit more chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're back slightly and sm have to hide from

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<v Speaker 2>a defense patrol and when they look back home, wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>slapstick like lially five.

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<v Speaker 3>Seconds, I legit was screaming like this was so funny,

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<v Speaker 3>so good has gonody?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought as well, grabbed it

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<v Speaker 2>and brought it to like the snot nest in order

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<v Speaker 2>to and two minutes so that it could exactly, it

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<v Speaker 2>could give birth in a controlled environment. But anyway, they

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<v Speaker 2>look back and Arthur's gone, and the face Hugger falls

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<v Speaker 2>dead from the tree. It has crawled off to die

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<v Speaker 2>and Arthur. They look over there and Arthur is just

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<v Speaker 2>standing there, not realizing anything that just happens, like what

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing on it slightly tries to make up

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff like there's been a decontamination and

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<v Speaker 2>your wife is waiting for you on the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>we can't go back to the lab because of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's going on there, so let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes clear Arthur is like no memory of the

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<v Speaker 2>last twenty four hours, and he thanks the kids for

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<v Speaker 2>what he thinks is like some sort of life saving

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<v Speaker 2>intervention that they've done because of what's going on back

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<v Speaker 2>in the lab. They are strolling to the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur is like having these snippets of the face Hugger

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on him and just bad stuff, and he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>something wrong, there is something wrong. Yeah, can we go

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<v Speaker 2>back and let's go back and figure out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you guys are trying to do. I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are lying because you're bad at it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go back and we can work this all out. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 2>like no one's gonna get in trouble hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this is a good emotional payoff moment

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<v Speaker 3>because Atha I felt like was a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>whatever character till this point in the show, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>mostly on the sides. But they do such a good

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<v Speaker 3>job pair of you using that dramatic irony that you

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<v Speaker 3>understand to make you really feel complicit and like pull

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<v Speaker 3>it through this.

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<v Speaker 1>But they shot this entire scene is kind of brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they shoot a lot of it chest up, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, like like you know, you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well now the chest burster comes out, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, yeah yeah, yeah, you're like waiting for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't quite see his chest. You're like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I thought the actual chest burster scene was

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<v Speaker 1>filmed really well. It's not trying to feel really duplicate

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<v Speaker 1>the original or anything. It's just as and like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the chessco conka first and then the thing jump out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>They go to the tight kind of slow blood splatter

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<v Speaker 2>reaction on the faces, just like the original alien. So

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<v Speaker 2>the chest burster pops and the alien slithers off into

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<v Speaker 2>the jungle, and Slightly is like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get the alien. It's Smee meanwhile is like an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute I want to just say any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to shout out the actor who plays sme

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<v Speaker 3>who is Jonathan j And I just think like this

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<v Speaker 3>is the performance throughout every single time when I watched

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<v Speaker 3>the episodes. I want to look after him, like he

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<v Speaker 3>is the one who makes me believe he is a child,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is like the lost person that I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get caught up in this Slightly situation because he

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<v Speaker 3>is just plays it so young and so scared and

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<v Speaker 3>so realistic. And I just think for me, he is

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<v Speaker 3>like the most believable of the kids. And I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like this is a really strong episode for that, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just yeah, I want to protect.

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<v Speaker 1>Me the horrors of being a child, you know, throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the series, and I think really nailed it here, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about Like I had a very

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty good childhood, you know, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the worst. You have no agency, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you don't know, you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for it's all very confusing, and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>this need to like be an adult and to be

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<v Speaker 1>an independent person, and so there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like absolutely Slightly's journey, it's so freaking Relatable's like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect my family, I have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>solo and watching like and Snee's best buddy. Like to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, Jason, like, no, you probably didn't needs me

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<v Speaker 1>for this, but like that emotional support of like me

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<v Speaker 1>and I are always together, he'll help me will be

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<v Speaker 1>then to watch that completely like fade away and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in the next scene when he he's like I did everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I did all of it. I just I was blown

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<v Speaker 1>away by the different levels of like slight trauma that

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<v Speaker 1>they are able to blow up. Yeah, exactly intense monstrous

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<v Speaker 1>moment throughout this episode. And there's a lot of critique

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<v Speaker 1>in here, but I thought this episode was pretty strong

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of different things, and on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Horror the character stuff starts to really pay off for

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<v Speaker 3>me here. It's just I do I questioned some of

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<v Speaker 3>the choices.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little just hitting.

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<v Speaker 2>We get it. We get a scene of that's quite

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<v Speaker 2>touching with Curly now struggling with all that Wendy has

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<v Speaker 2>said to her and everything that's currently going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the lab. She goes to Damon basically yeah, treats Dame

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<v Speaker 2>as a surrey At mother figure, which breaks Dame's heart.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see she does love it. It also breaks

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<v Speaker 2>her heart and hopefully, yes, realize what a terrible person

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<v Speaker 2>she is. Is she like, wake up curly, Yeah, likely.

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<v Speaker 3>Hind of Damon off that having some kind of child

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<v Speaker 3>who died, I was really getting those vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that might see never had a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>I never had it. There's some kind of surrogate aspect

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<v Speaker 3>here that both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you watch episode one. In the background of a

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<v Speaker 1>scene when they're first introducing Wendy to the table, you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear them very quietly talking about like, oh, should

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<v Speaker 1>we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Children or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, and she's like, these are our children now? And

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<v Speaker 1>Carmen in the chat is saying that there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of a child on the wall, which is possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do think you guys are in the right

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<v Speaker 1>realm of like they were like maybe they had a

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<v Speaker 1>kid and lost it. Maybe they were thinking of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have kids soon, And for whatever reason, Dame has

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<v Speaker 1>been like, these are just gonna be the kids, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we can't have access to, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>just raise these obvious and it's clear. Arthur's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like a life out like off this island.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually, Yeah, and he was right.

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<v Speaker 2>You me and Slightly keep going with just Arthur's corpse.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they arrive at the beach and the Utaani Sealed

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<v Speaker 2>Team six comes out of the water with Morrow and

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<v Speaker 2>the lead. He is mad at Slightly for bringing sme,

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<v Speaker 2>but realizes instantly that we've lost the alien, so we

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<v Speaker 2>need to go look for it. Slightly is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make excuses and says like, listen, you didn't tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>You told me I had two days for the gestation

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<v Speaker 2>period and it popped like a day later. Like none

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<v Speaker 2>of this is of course registering. Morrow then orders his

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<v Speaker 2>forces to take the sense with him. Just capture the sins,

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<v Speaker 2>take them with Adam is updating Boy Genius about current

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing stuff in the facility. The xenomorphous is in the

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<v Speaker 2>wind it it escaped through a pipe and is now

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<v Speaker 2>running around the island. No sign of the sinse Boy Genius, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, whatever, whatever, let's talk about this sheep. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this sheep. This sheep is fucking crazy. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I brought it to my podcast studio. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to this sheep, and just like in my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>movie Contact, I'm going to use maths to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the sheep. And he writes pie like on a notepad

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<v Speaker 2>and is like three point one, Okay, what are the

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<v Speaker 2>other decimals? The following decimals. The sheep starts stamping out

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<v Speaker 2>like the next three numbers, but then makes the Shin

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<v Speaker 2>is like that's enough. Come on, I proved I'm smart, right,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you? And boy Genius is like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is awesome. But we got to put the e

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<v Speaker 2>into a person so I can talk to it. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, I know, just I know who to use,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't. It doesn't go any further. We just

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<v Speaker 2>I love I want to talk about it theory corner.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. He was just like, I'll go make

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<v Speaker 3>you a list people.

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<v Speaker 4>Immediately Adam Adam is going to the boats to the

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<v Speaker 4>boat launch and to leave. Sonys and Joe head to

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<v Speaker 4>the boat launch and they were ambushed by the seals.

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<v Speaker 4>Wendy is like, you guys better get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 4>of here. Before it's too late. Uh, you better leave

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this sorry, this is before they get to boat

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<v Speaker 2>lotch just in the jungle, and she's like, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna leave, okay, watch this, and she did. She does

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<v Speaker 2>her little and the comes and instantly kills the seals.

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<v Speaker 2>Nibs fucking loves it. Save this for later when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about why these sins should be turned off. Immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is mad at letting at Wendy for letting the

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<v Speaker 2>Xenomorph out, and Wendy's talking to it. She wipes some

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<v Speaker 2>little blood off of its little eye thing whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like space where the eye should be, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it runs off and she's like, Joe, I told

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<v Speaker 2>it to hide and follow us, so don't worry about

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<v Speaker 2>stuff baby Zenomorph. Meanwhile, I think baby Xenomorph is captured.

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<v Speaker 2>We are seem to find out is captured by Kersh.

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<v Speaker 2>Morrow marches Sme and Slightly into the facility, where they're

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<v Speaker 2>met by Prodigy security forces led by Kersh, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has Moro taken into custody. Meanwhile, Wendy, Joe, and Nibs

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<v Speaker 2>get to the dock. Joe's search and rescue team confronts

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<v Speaker 2>them and NIBBs. NIBBs is like, we're not going back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're never going back, and she rips off one of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's friend's jaw. Listen, I loved it. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>this happened, but again, we can't have these things running

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<v Speaker 2>around long term. Wendy calls the alien. Joe shocks Wendy

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<v Speaker 2>down as like the alien is about to kill and

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<v Speaker 2>she's maybe about to kill one of his search and

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<v Speaker 2>rescue buddies. Wendy is like furious about this, what did

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<v Speaker 2>you do? And then we get a very like unsatisfying

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of weird, drawn out ending to the episode

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody's having this standoff on the boat. Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break, let's be in this recap, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when we return, we will welcome in Carmen and we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Carmen.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, thanks for having How are you doing common, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 5>I loved this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's talk some theory corner kursh I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it has although it seems that he has other

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<v Speaker 2>goals which we are unclear about, right, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it's clear that you Tani had him and Morrow

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<v Speaker 2>in a bake off for who can get the alien.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the way Kersh is like, haha, finders keepers I

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.440
<v Speaker 2>won led me to believe that. I think we were

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<v Speaker 2>right that Kirsh is a model, is like is a

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<v Speaker 2>planted Utani can I Postmen has a beautiful theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Karmen was texting me about it this morning and I

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<v Speaker 1>was freaking out. Was like, this is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 5>While I love the idea that you Tani, Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 5>I love the idea. We've got this corporate espionage thing

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<v Speaker 5>going on. I think Kersh, however, it in it for himself.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Kersh wants his own autonomy and I think

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking like West World when I am thinking about that,

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<v Speaker 5>and just just kind of he is looking at the children.

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<v Speaker 5>He is thinking, oh sorry, no go ahead, no bed Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, he's looking at the children and

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<v Speaker 5>he's finding I think he's manipulating these scenarios in a

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<v Speaker 5>way where he's doing things that he's finding loopholes around

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 5>his programming. He can't actually kill boy Cavalier, he can't

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 5>harm anyone, but he can let chaos just unleash and

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 5>do for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, get to your pointing, Oh, sorry, God, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gonna say what you what you had said, It

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<v Speaker 1>was really interesting to me in your your text was

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of like the show has posed, like started

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<v Speaker 1>off with this idea of like these are since these

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<v Speaker 1>are hybrids, and this idea we all the interactions we've

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<v Speaker 1>had between Morrow and Kersh are sort of this back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth of like who's more paw powerful, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like most up to date, which I do you

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<v Speaker 1>think sort of flows into the utania of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, too, like if you bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>into this idea of like, Okay, well now we have

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<v Speaker 1>this new type of form and he's so insistent that

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are not humans, and to me that really

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<v Speaker 1>speaks to like, okay, he has he is using the

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<v Speaker 1>tools around him to manipulate and get out and in

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<v Speaker 1>order to find like his own his own freedom. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he tells Joe in the previous episode, like

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>that's not what your sister's gonna want to do, Like

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>she has no use for a family, She's gonna want

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>to go out and explore. I think he's talking about himself.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you had also brought up we've talked so

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>much about this idea of scorpion and power and who's

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>getting crushed and you text me it's word of You're

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like curses the scorpion, and I was like, yeah, I'm

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>here for this. I'm gon s idea.

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 3>He's realizing that the next evolution, So what can he

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 3>do to.

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Just if this is the case, how I'm kind of

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>bored and at this point like, really, it's gonna be

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>another the robot has Yeah, because he's here's my issue.

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It does track with Alien which in which you know

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Ash goes crazy, but he goes crazy because he's been

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>ordered to do something that goes against his programming. So

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe there is a mirror thing here where Kersha's been

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>because of some like like utany like base programming is

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>being ordered to go against his master yes, and therefore

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>it is like going to do all this stuff. I

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>just hope it's not one of these like because why

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about how inconsistent like the programming, the security,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>all the things out on the tech are and this

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>is would be too Diosex machinough for me, that boy

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>genius who is a genius. We have to accept this

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>or like why do we even give a shit would

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>have a synth that could just decide one day that

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't want to do this anymore.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, this guy this true, that would fit in if as.

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 3>One of the most popular theories that I'm currently seeing

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 3>is that boy Genius is also a sin.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't buy it, and why are we experimenting? Yeah,

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>why are we experimenting?

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 3>Then doesn't know? That's the generalized theory is that he

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 3>thinks he's human.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 5>And I buy into that theory, you know myself, Like

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I that is something that I have been analyzing and like, oh,

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 5>I can totally see him being a puppet and Adam

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 5>I and being the actual puppeteer. But for me, I

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 5>need that ie to I need his skull to get

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 5>fucked by that eye.

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you, guys can't have let's talk about

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 3>that because a obviously we all want to see that

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in the finale of But I have realized from this

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 3>episode because I'll tell you an ongoing issue I have

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 3>had in this series that I think is the issue

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 3>other people have had too, is I don't know if

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 3>the character of Hermit slash Joe has any juice, Like

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he has the juice to help her

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>stop something. I don't think he has the juice to

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>inspire her to do something. I think it was an

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 3>in character that maybe doesn't work, but I do predict

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that I think boy genius wants to put the eye

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 3>in Joe. I think because he wants white guy who

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 3>is like who looks like him, who acts like him,

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 3>to be the person who is as smart as him.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think that Joe. I think that I may

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 3>kill Joe. That would be bleak, I would like it,

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>or as Beg is hoping it will go into Joe,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 3>it goes into Beg.

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I so well, wait, hold on, I want to say that, yeah,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Joe on Joe. I agree, Joe is is a little juiceless.

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Although I was because I was wondering about this. I

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>do think that Joe exists as the stand in for

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the audience to uh, as a tool for the audience

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>to realize that this is not his, this is not

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>a human, this is not a person. Is because his

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>constant like, oh, we got to do this, and you know,

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 2>you and me, and we got to get out of here,

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>and I'm taking care of my sister. No, your sister

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>is much more capable. First, of all, this entity is

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 2>much more capable than you, and it is not your sister.

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>So I think that is ultimately the reason Joe exists

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>in this story is for him and us to come

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>to a point where we realize that these are.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Not humans and these are choice the character.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, we talked about this a little

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>bit last week, that it just falls a little bit black.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I like it might work more.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>If he was also pushing his sister to see that

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>she's not a real human. And I feel like that's

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of lacking in within Wendy, like us not knowing

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like what she's communicating or like how she's like. We

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>just don't kind of spend enough time with either of

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>them to either get the fracturing and separation of them,

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>or does he like where are they still together? Because

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's much more interesting if Wendy is not

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that obviously the child that came in, but there's still

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>parts of her there. And I don't think we have

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a very clear indication of like how much is robot,

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>how much is coated person who died? Okay, yeah, I

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>have a theory about this. Eye here we go. You guys,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>remember when we were really obsessed with, Uh, what are

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>they doing with this guy just smoking these walls? He

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>calls from like a janitor or somebody who's like hyper replaceable,

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And I said, like yeah, and just from a creep factor,

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like the costuming of the mold guy is like creaky always.

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like bulky. It's got like a pretty like standout

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>silhouette where you would notice it in a dark kind

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>of shadowy space and if you put that like Medie

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Moody eye in it. I just think from a character

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>design perspective, it looks really cool. And you know, we

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>only have one episode left, like I don't know, and

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>then we're sad or whatever. Screw that. Just show me

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>another cool creature that goes out in control and that's

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>what I like. Boys, Cavalier's own humans kills him and

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>we can move on at this point.

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh sorry, there's one more creature. Oh there's no more

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 5>teature that we haven't seen an action yet, and that's

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 5>that weird plant like creature.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I really hope they're saving him to the finale. Something's

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>really cool and creepy. Yeah, he'd be slithering all around. Yeah,

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think at this point, you know, we were touching

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>on it a little bit earlier we said a lot

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of people would need to die in this episode, which

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>we were correct. We were too close to the end.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>We have to do a big quelling and we got that.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I think for the ending we need fireworks so everybody's

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>on the island, their house together. The lines have been drawn.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I do think we need a U Tanni drop in

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to either clarify she's been running both sides, and or

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to be like the period at the end of this sentence,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to be like, Okay, it's prodigy is burned down. You

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Tani is taking us over. We got our guys back.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>What wait are you guys hoping as we step into

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the finale to see what questions do you need answered?

0:30:59.400 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Most?

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, That's why I was gonna say, Jason, what do

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 3>you feel like is your biggest Like? How could what

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 3>what would happen that would make a finale so good

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>it makes the rest of the season better. That's what

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm interested in because we saw we saw reviews for

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 3>this whole season from critics who had had the whole season,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and they were saying nine out of ten, they were saying,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 3>this is similar to and or level. I need to

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>know what happens.

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Level and I don't think anything could happen and nothing

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>could happen in the finale that would lift a hand or.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I thought I had that potential in the

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>first two episodes, but.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 2>It did maybe yea out there are I mean there

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>are Listen, this is a great show. There are various

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>cacing problems throughout that keep it from being like illegally elite.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 2>That said, I think we would need to I would

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>need to see something that would make me understand how

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>we could have a season two. I think that's those

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.959
<v Speaker 2>the because at this point, I'm like, how could we

0:31:59.000 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>have a season? It does?

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's going to be a closed loop

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>at this point.

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, how would it be possible to have one?

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it has been kind of dropping hints

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>about how it could happen, how it could work. So

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess I would need to see. I guess I

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>would need to see how, yeah, how that could happen.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I would need to I would need answers about like

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Whomorrow is working for, who Kersh is working for, what

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Kirsh's motivations are, and how it is that the earth

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that exists after this is not like just lousy with

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>various aliens running around to and fro, like how did

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>they stop this?

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would know, That's.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>What I need.

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I would like a zoom out. I would like a

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 3>zoom out to see how this is going to impact

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 3>the world, How this is going to impact Prodigy, how

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>this is going to impact these corporations that we know

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>now are kind of shaping the world. And I will

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>say that was a big change, you know, for a

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of like deep Alien readers who had read a

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of the comics or I'd read a lot of

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.959
<v Speaker 3>the books. This was a of the corporations that we

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>know who were currently active at the time. So I

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 3>want them to deliver on that because I'm all for

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 3>changing or shifting Cannon, but I always wanted to add

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 3>something new. So I want to kind of know, like Jason,

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 3>where we are, where we stand at the end, and

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 3>then that will tell me whether or not I'm really

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>hyped for a second season.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Carmen, what do you need?

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Finally, I have us.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 5>I think I have simpler needs.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 3>I would love for a lot.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.959
<v Speaker 5>Of these loops to be closed on, especially I remember

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 5>in the first three episodes of the season, I was

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 5>really obsessed with that mold scrubber and just like what

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 5>was going on.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>With Yeah, why were they showing him so much?

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 5>I felt like he was heavily featured in the first

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 5>few episodes and then not later on. I am glad

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 5>that now those powers that Wendy had early on in

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 5>the season are starting to come back into play.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 5>But I just need to know, like, yeah, like, is

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 5>that I.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Gonna get boy genius?

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Enough Eye, Yeah, there has really not been enough.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>I have definitely been the breakout.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love him. I've been calling her, uh in

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>addition to iOpus Dolly because Dolly is the first sheep

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that got called and I just feel like it's appropriate.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh So this is our Eye, Dolly, our octopus iOpus.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I really yeah, I would I need it. Seems like

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>the Eye has been scheming as well, and I need

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>all of the schemes to come together. Yes we have

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>heard that question, Yes we The question that kept coming

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>up throughout this episode is what have you done? And

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>this lack of like communication and understanding, there's like a

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of betrayals in here.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see some aliens working together. I

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>would like to see y'all like teaming up because it's

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>clear they're so all in communication and all have the

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>same goals. I think they're all from the same planet. Yes,

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think they're from the Predator planet? The more

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I think about out it. Carmen and I were also

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>texting about some of those traits of Predator showing up

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>in the fly Alien definitely, and so I I think,

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, we know predators like to breed xenomorphs and

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have their kids hunt them as like training exercises.

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 3>And also the movie is coming out so soon Predator exactly.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It feels like it was with a Utah exactly, and

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so so I would really like to see like both

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>like how are these creatures working together and why do

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>they have like what's their end goal? Because it can't

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>just I mean maybe it is just escape, But is

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that like let's get on a ship and get out

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of here? Does that take over the plane?

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Aliens?

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I need me to get to safety. Someone

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>protects my son, my sweet don't kill prepared.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 3>I would also say for me, and this is going

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 3>to be this is less what I want to see.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 3>This is what I think is going to happen because

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 3>I understand how they telegraph these things because I watch

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of shows and movies that use these tropes,

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 3>and I do love them. Look, am I somebody who

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 3>loves Terminator too? And I love a child sidekick? Yes?

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Do.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.959
<v Speaker 3>I often enjoy the parts of shows like this where

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 3>people where, you know, like they think it's like an

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>arm pumping moment and everyone's rolling their eyes, but I'm

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 3>pumping my arm. Yes, I do believe at some point

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 3>in that serial, like in the finale, they are going

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>to have a moment with Wendy like running alongside the

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Xenomorph like they are a team, and Alien fans around

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the world they're gonna hate it, and depending on how

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 3>they do it, I'm probably gonna love it. But I'm interested.

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that is inevitable, and I feel like

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>from the critiques I've been seeing of the show, I

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's gonna enamor anyone more.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.439
<v Speaker 2>I will hate it. I would that all the way.

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the reason that I mean, listen, the story

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 2>of Alien is always that you think you can control

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>nature and you can't exactly, and it would so it

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>would be a weirdly discordant note for me if it

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, actually, we can make them pets, but this

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 2>is the next mine.

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, can I can? I can I pod? In theory, though,

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>these are two uncontrollable forces of nature and she is

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>not trying to control, simply to communicate with, and if

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they see each other as being on the same side,

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>that's somewhat interesting to me. I agree that if it's

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>like this is my pet, and I like use it

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like a Pokemon or like go gos, you know more

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>than I'm like.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Far been using it as a fucking Pokemon.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Which honestly I'm sure like Sniper friend like, she's just like, okay,

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we're like six Clicks of the South. Can you just

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>take these guys out?

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, the idea, I do think the idea

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that like we have that you know, these scientists have

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>like unwittingly created or engaged with, like two super predators,

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>one that they created and one that they got on

0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>another planet. Yeah, which leads me further to even feel

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>more strongly that all these syths needs to be shut

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 2>off immediately. JA got them down, kids, You've been bamboozled

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>into believing their names. Just tore a guy's fucking jaw

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>because I hate that guy, But so you think that

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 2>she's not going to tear anybody else's jaw off the people.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I think people people and people people at people.

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 2>That is it is listen. If they are to be

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>if they are to know, if they are to be

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>allowed to continue to exist, they must be nerved. We

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>cannot have these child like ais that are capable of

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>tearing off people's limbs. Children should not have mentally balanced

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 2>and can also like hack into every computer and talk

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 2>to aliens like we we just like, can we at

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>least give them like human level strength and abilities.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Before we're like, yeah, let run around. Yes, I think

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>that that is sensible. I will also say, I my

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 3>other gut feeling is that a good emotional arc for

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Wendy and his animal would be if the xenomorph killed Joe,

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like because that is a reality. Like, I don't think

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>kill him, kill him.

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I did almost kill him.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>She has to and now it's just seen him shot

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 3>her right like now he I think that she has

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to realize there is a human cost that she can't

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:45.959
<v Speaker 3>comprehend having, and I think it should be Joe. Sorry,

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Alex Lotha, I love it.

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be Joe I also agree that it

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>should be Joe, that it should like incapacitate him and

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 2>try to drag him to the eggs.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I think most interesting is if Wendy takes

0:39:58.440 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 1>out Joe.

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I would.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting thing.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Left about their relationship. It's like we're we're not on

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the same page. You willfully took out Nibs, which to

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>her is like, that's my younger sibling, like I ushered

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>her into this space. That's nuts. You're not listening to me.

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't hear me. I identify more with the alien creature.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, if they team up, that can work,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so long as she turns into one of them and

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 1>she's fully on their side and she's like, no, Joe,

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go. That to me makes Any twenty much

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 1>more interesting and it gives us a good jumping off

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>point for season two.

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the I just I'm interested in what

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>an alien's motivation besides like reproduce is yes, and I

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>think that's also a dangerous thing for this. I agree

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>if they do.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 3>This is the thing I think that you. I think

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>this is as we were talking about all of this,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and we are talking about you know, the sense and hybrids,

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 3>and we've had so much fun covering the show, and

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 3>early on I really thought it was a contender for

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Show of the year. First two episodes I just thought

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 3>was so fantastic. But I will say I think all

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 3>critique of where we are at and where the show

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>is is fair because this isn't just a spin off

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 3>of a thing or a you know, a reboot of

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 3>a thing. It is also like nowadays, we are adding law,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 3>we are adding context, we are adding you know, retroactive history.

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And one thing I will say that most other shows

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>that do this do not have to contend with is

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>like hr Geiger's xenomorph as it exists in the first

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Alien movie. You know, with that Ridley Scott perceived and

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 3>the way that the two of them worked together, it

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>was so unknowable and terrifying that that is why Alien

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 3>is good. And I think that as much as I

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 3>love the broadening and I love this, I do think

0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>like to have Wendy able to control like a Pokemon,

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 3>it could it takes away some of the fear.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I completely agree. I hope that, I really

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 2>hope that what happens at the end of this is

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>that it doesn't she loses quote unquote control of it

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>if she ever had it, Because I do think that

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>ultimately the alien exists to implant its eggs in mammals,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and it wants to do that, and it's not going

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>to do that the planet. Yeah, and I think and

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I think the other you know, Listen, the lesson that

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 2>humans are going to take away from this entire debacle

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 2>is that we almost did it. We almost figured out

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>way to way to control them, right, a couple of tweaks,

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a couple of tweaks in the algorithm, or a couple

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of tweaks to the synth hybrid algorithm. We're just firmer

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>controls where it doesn't, has less free will, right, and

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>is more clear about how it's how it's communicating with

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the alien, so we can learn how to do it.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And we can do it.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, that can't be the takeaway.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>I have to say. I kind of think that maybe

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 3>the best finale actually is like the Hubris of Whale

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 3>and Utani as a corporation or something. You see them

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 3>at the end basically just being like, we've got the

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 3>next step in human evolution and it's this, and we're

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna send a ship in to get it and blah

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 3>blah blah and kind of it is. And then you know,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 3>you do a zoom away of the island and it's

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 3>just all the dead bodies being fucking like pulled off

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 3>the island like that hubris of humanity. Because, like Jason,

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I think you summed it up so well. The only

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 3>thing that anyone's gonna take from this is we almost

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>did it. And that is actually a pretty powerful message

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 3>of the show, is like, yeah, you got to go

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 3>on all these adventures, but guess what, these motherfuckers are dead,

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's just gonna continue to be a cycle of Yeah.

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's so many there's so many animals on

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>this island, Like this place is going to be full

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of aliens like three days.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna be crazy. You know what. I'm not

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna lie that. Jason was cracking when you mentioned this

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a minute ago. Was thinking about one of my favorite

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 3>recent tweets where you were kind of talking about the

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 3>pokemon of it all. I think a lot about it

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>was it was like a tweet somebody did that was

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 3>like the Jurassic World movies are so funny to me

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 3>because it's just about white people who think they could

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 3>make dinosaurs their pets, you know, and everyone like Chris

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Chris Prat's just going around like put giving it the

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 3>hand and the rat. And I think that there is

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 3>something kind of funny and subversive if the show is

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 3>playing on those tropes and kind of reveals in the

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 3>finale that that even if you are a hybrid, you

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 3>we saw it killed it killed Isaac, like they killed

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 3>my boy. They killed them. No problem food.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's no food.

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 3>That's their food, Like, that's not they You spent six

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 3>billion dollars on it, but for them, it's like a

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 3>fry up at the local cafe, like two pounds. They

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 3>don't care. Like so I think from this conversation, I

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 3>would be very in trusted to see how they play

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 3>with maybe our expectations of what we think we're gonna

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 3>get and what they actually do, and kind of whether

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 3>or not that Hubris is going to be at the

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 3>heart of it, because I think that's very could be

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 3>very fun and Wendy.

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the Hubris of Wendy. I'm waiting to

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>see if that, uh, if anything pays off of that,

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 2>because I think I'm saying a little overly familiar, like yeah,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I've got this, I've got this alien on lock like

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>he follows me.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like I know everything, Like yeah, exactly, I'm the oldest,

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like it's really accurate. Okay, wait, guys,

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>if there is a winner, if we if we get

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to the end of episode eight and there is a conclusive,

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I need it to be the Eye.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say this.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm rooting for the kids. I know that that's the

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 5>unpower sweet.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I also love a good kid.

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Because we know a season two is coming, I'm rooting

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>for kersh to him, just because I've been really enjoying

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>his journey.

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I will see.

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a little too in the background for me. I

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>wish that they had beefed up.

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I agree, he's a bit too.

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a little too trophy, But I thought we

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 1>were like the evil villain speech when he like, you

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>have a whole army at your back, you're finding fronting

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>your enemy, and it felt good like it, But then

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that was like is that it like where it was incompletely?

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 2>It was a little weird too, for like all the

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 2>security guys to just be like, Okay, we're following Kersh

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to do what's.

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Just to understand this should have been the reveal of like,

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>this just cursed. This is what he'd been doing in

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the background the whole time here and then tomorrow to

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>be our winner in the next season.

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Here is my hope, and I hope that the Eye

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 2>gets into Boy Genius. It convinces Adam and Kersh to

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>keep working hard.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna wear sunglasses or some thankful all the time now,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to just because obviously, I think it

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 2>would be a fucking disaster for the stock price if

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>it was revealed that Boy Genius was either synse or

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>that Adam was pulling strings or like any of these

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 2>things don't really work for me because it's like, how

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 2>do you have a company after this? I think what

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:26.240
<v Speaker 2>they will I think what the workaround will be. Okay,

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the Eye is now our CEO, and we'll just like

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 2>let that.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 6>I think honestly, and that, honestly would actually be a

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 6>pretty deep sting podcast.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, start wearing that's what we'll know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be like everyone is like it would be really

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<v Speaker 3>funny because Jason's just like really happy they got into

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<v Speaker 3>the pan analogy. But now the Eye is just like

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<v Speaker 3>doing super super super super fucked up and just like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god he's not reading Pea Pan anymore, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about famous eyes throughout history. But yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I would love that because it would be

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty deep statement on what CEOs are willing to

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<v Speaker 3>put up with from execs to keep things going. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to see that. Well, so we should

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<v Speaker 3>make an extra vision I T shirt. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we've been supporting that eye for the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, the eye has been through hell and I just

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<v Speaker 2>love the Eye to get out of that little container. YEA,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, extra vision, We're heading back to school as

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<v Speaker 2>we cover the first whole episodes of the next season

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<v Speaker 2>of jen V and the new Jordan Peele produce sports

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<v Speaker 2>horror movie Him. That's it for this episode. Extra thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us, guys. Hey x ray Vision is hosted

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<v Speaker 2>by Jason sept Young and Rosie Knight and is a

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<v Speaker 2>production of iHeart Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman.

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<v Speaker 2>Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.

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<v Speaker 3>Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay wack A.

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<v Speaker 2>Theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme songs

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<v Speaker 2>by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 3>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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