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Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for Alien Earth episode seven Emergence
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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are opening the air locom walking
Speaker 3: into the very dangerous realm of Alien Half episode seven.
Speaker 3: We are going to be recapping it, and then we
Speaker 3: will be joined by Joel and Common to speculate about
Speaker 3: upcoming finale. Joel, do you want to be in for
Speaker 3: the recap too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can hang out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay. We are joined by super producer Joel to
Speaker 3: do our recap and then will be bringing in Common
Speaker 3: to speculate about the upcoming Binali. But first let's do it, Jason.
Speaker 2: Let's freak out time. Emergence Alien Earth episode seven slightly
Speaker 2: has dragged Arthur and the Face Hugger to his room
Speaker 2: all alone through the vent system.
Speaker 3: I just there's what I mean. They go to have
Speaker 3: bed a security. I know I'm repeating myself.
Speaker 2: I'm like I mean, it's insane that.
Speaker 3: He vent system as well that like you call, I
Speaker 3: feel like there should be a camera in the event
Speaker 3: at this point.
Speaker 2: Just to get this further out of the way. Also
Speaker 2: before we really get into it, he got Arthur there
Speaker 2: alone but then needs help getting him to the beach.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need help getting into the beach. He could
Speaker 2: have carried him shoulder to the beach by himself.
Speaker 1: Oging something from the stand like a second person.
Speaker 2: Can I get it? But he can jump one hundred
Speaker 2: feet off a canyon and land on his feet. Yeah, actually,
Speaker 2: and he dragged own deadweight man alone through the events
Speaker 2: like he can.
Speaker 3: I will say anyway, there is there is a power
Speaker 3: and consistency issue with hybrids are allowed. It does a
Speaker 3: ky in this episode.
Speaker 2: So he quite charmingly is is concerned that the face
Speaker 2: hugger is not letting Arthur breathe, so he tries to
Speaker 2: like move the legs over a little bit so there's
Speaker 2: like a little breathing hole. Of course that we know
Speaker 2: that that's not going to work. Face Hugger just kind
Speaker 2: of tightens on Arthur's.
Speaker 1: Next thing some water, and he's like, is he choking
Speaker 1: the storm?
Speaker 2: Why don't they should have looked for that.
Speaker 3: They should have had these hybrids, Like when they saw
Speaker 3: this stuff happening, they should have made them watch it.
Speaker 3: They saw how scared they were. That could have been
Speaker 3: a good way to stop them getting involved.
Speaker 2: A lad too late, it's too late for all of this. Anyway,
Speaker 2: there's a knock it Smee. Smee first forces his way
Speaker 2: in because he's like, you're in there, you're doing something.
Speaker 2: Goes in there, sees Arthur's arms sticking out under the bed,
Speaker 2: and slightly is like trying to tell Smee everything in
Speaker 2: this like burst of emotion, like my family, they're gonna
Speaker 2: murder them, and I need your help, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do it. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: was gonna happen, but they have my mom and Smee
Speaker 2: is of course too panic to process any of this
Speaker 2: what's going on. All that really cuts through is slightly
Speaker 2: telling me I need your help to get this guy
Speaker 2: to the beach. Help me, and he agrees. Meanwhile, alarms
Speaker 2: are going off, finally going off down in the lab.
Speaker 3: How did it take this long? Guy?
Speaker 1: Why now? And not before?
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, guys, I feel like you know
Speaker 3: Noah Holy. He's the kind of guy where people are like,
Speaker 3: he's got a plan, He's got a scheme, He's like
Speaker 3: laying it all out. He knows the long game. I
Speaker 3: want no Holy to one there and explain the security systems.
Speaker 3: I need to see the blueprints because I'm having issues
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 2: It could be that Kersh suppressed the alarms till now.
Speaker 3: I do think that generally he's he's doing some kind
Speaker 3: of shenanigans.
Speaker 2: But it'd be great to know for sure, Like what anyway,
Speaker 2: So the bugs are flying all over the place. They're
Speaker 2: spitting acid on like every thing that's metal or plastic
Speaker 2: so that they can eat it. Two guards enter after
Speaker 2: Curse overrides the doors. They like shock the bugs with
Speaker 2: the batons and they get them into containers and then
Speaker 2: it's safe for boy Genius to come down. He comes
Speaker 2: in and Borgenius sees that Toodles is melted and dead
Speaker 2: and that's six billion down the drain. Kersh tells Boy Genius,
Speaker 2: this was not an accident. It wasn't like kids messing around.
Speaker 2: This happened on purpose. Let's watch the tape. They watch
Speaker 2: the tape and it's clear that the eye will call
Speaker 2: the sheet who will will will call either the Eye
Speaker 2: or the sheep interchangeably over the course of this recap
Speaker 2: plan this, and boy Genius is like, Wow, that's so cool,
Speaker 2: that's so exciting. I want to study the eye further.
Speaker 2: Wendy comes down, sees tootles and realizes is like, wait,
Speaker 2: what happened. She gets the infuriating answer that science happened
Speaker 2: from ker crazy I would yeah. Wendy then realizes, oh,
Speaker 2: wait a second, we can die, and then realizes furthermore
Speaker 2: that nothing about what they're doing is safe. She tries
Speaker 2: to leave. The guards stand in her way for a second,
Speaker 2: and then she like whisper, whispers something or like hunger games,
Speaker 2: whistles something to her alien, and the alien bangs on
Speaker 2: the glass like hey, let go on, my mom, and
Speaker 2: boy Genius realizes that as she leaves, realizes that, oh shit,
Speaker 2: Wendy's going to go tell the rest of the Sense
Speaker 2: what happened, Like okay, let's make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Kurse then realizes all the trackers on the Sense are off,
Speaker 2: and so now as Wendy walks out the door, no
Speaker 2: one knows where anybody is. That they're all in the wind.
Speaker 2: Wendy tells her brother what has happened that you know,
Speaker 2: Toodles is dead, Tootles slash, Isaac is dead and we're
Speaker 2: not safe, YadA YadA. Joe's like, okay, we gotta leave.
Speaker 2: We're leaving. I conspired with Arthur to turn off your
Speaker 2: trackers so we can leave. We can get out of here.
Speaker 2: And She's like, well, we got to get the rest
Speaker 2: of everybody, and Joe's like no, you fucking know, just
Speaker 2: you and me, like let's get out of here, but
Speaker 2: Wendy has her way. They go to see Nibs. Curly
Speaker 2: is there too. Curly thinks that whatever Wendy said freaked
Speaker 2: out Nibs, and Wendy's like no, because they raised.
Speaker 1: Her memory and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: And Nibs, meanwhile, is the reboot clearly didn't work because
Speaker 2: she's adamant in a scary and ominous way that nobody
Speaker 2: is ever going to mess with her insides again. We
Speaker 2: get more Epstein Island. Wendy tells them listen, Isaac is dead, uh,
Speaker 2: and we have to leave because they're doing bad stuff here.
Speaker 2: Curly is like, how dare you talk about boy genius
Speaker 2: that way? Gilled. She's you don't understand him, and you
Speaker 2: and uh, you don't get it. When is the best
Speaker 2: place I've ever been? That's right, And so clearly Curly
Speaker 2: is going to stay. But Wendy makes her promise like
Speaker 2: don't tell boy genius, and I actually think there's a
Speaker 2: chance because clearly Curly sees this as her opportunity to
Speaker 2: be the best kid, the most favorite kid.
Speaker 3: So she might keep the secret if it means she
Speaker 3: can be the best kid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Wendy, I guess, feels like they need a distraction.
Speaker 2: So she hacks into the security system with her little
Speaker 2: uh finger touch and opens the xenomorph cage, which is
Speaker 2: one way I think to that abstraction. Maybe there were
Speaker 2: other ways, but this is the way that.
Speaker 1: She chose the best and easiest DI strategy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again this is no critique of Wendy. I
Speaker 3: think this is a good distraction. I am once again
Speaker 3: back to the security system. Sere the moment that you
Speaker 3: realized there were like dangerous animals in here, you should
Speaker 3: have just put two and two together, like, oh, she
Speaker 3: can literally like communicate and control. They didn't do that.
Speaker 1: So this was the authorization code. They need your something.
Speaker 1: You can't just file the doors.
Speaker 3: The robot has to say something, and then an adam
Speaker 3: has to say something.
Speaker 2: Has to be there physically, like one person in the
Speaker 2: control room and one person physically at the door before unlock.
Speaker 2: It's something like that.
Speaker 3: Same way. They shouldn't have sent poor old Isaac down
Speaker 3: there either, Like there was a terrible idea that that child.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think I'm beginning to realize that Kirsh played all
Speaker 2: this anyway.
Speaker 3: I think has been enjoying a lot of experimentation on
Speaker 3: boy Genius's dime.
Speaker 2: Yes, so the xenomorph gets out and immediately murks like
Speaker 2: three four cleaners in the lab and nothing is gonna
Speaker 2: stop it. Dame is sadly looking at pictures of her husband,
Speaker 2: who she thinks is still alive but merely fired from
Speaker 2: the company. When Boi g comes this here and he's
Speaker 2: so pissed. He's like, Arthur turned the synth trackers off?
Speaker 2: How long have you known about it?
Speaker 1: What do you know?
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me you don't know anything what's going
Speaker 2: And Dame is like what who?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: What I don't know? And then it's the sound of
Speaker 2: the breech alarms going off. That finally breaks this conversation off,
Speaker 2: and boy Genius realizes, oh shit, the creatures are out. Meanwhile, Slightly,
Speaker 2: it's me here carrying Arthur in the huger to the
Speaker 2: beach when Kersh finds them and slightly immediately spills everything
Speaker 2: about Morrow, and Curseh's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I I
Speaker 2: don't know. I know about that. I don't give a
Speaker 2: shit about that. Here's the problem, because you guys need
Speaker 2: to take the secure elevator because that's the fastest one
Speaker 2: to the Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 1: Where I saw the people come invade the island. Please
Speaker 1: go interact with them that way.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, curse.
Speaker 1: Were enough.
Speaker 4: We weren't.
Speaker 1: First of all, we were absolutely right.
Speaker 2: We were absolutely we were right from very early on
Speaker 2: that he is a plant. Yes, okay, So Wendy, NIBBs
Speaker 2: and Joe are out there in the jungle trying to
Speaker 2: get to the boat, and that's when they come to
Speaker 2: is this the official graveyard of the kids? Why did
Speaker 2: they listen? I'm glad they did this.
Speaker 3: But also why did I make it like a pet
Speaker 3: cemetery or something like this is like inevitably gonna be back.
Speaker 2: Why would you why would you do this, Why would
Speaker 2: you actually put up a graveyard? Why wouldn't you just
Speaker 2: bury him in a pit and not leave anybody? Very
Speaker 2: confusing and the people working, I think this is and Dame,
Speaker 2: and I was gonna say yeah, because author and.
Speaker 1: Kids were holding when they were on the table are
Speaker 1: placed on top of the graves. They were the ones
Speaker 1: that insisted that it's really important to make sure that
Speaker 1: the children age gradually into adulthood. I think they're the
Speaker 1: only people that we've seen have any kind of respect
Speaker 1: for like human life decency.
Speaker 3: So in this case, I guess it's weird choice, but
Speaker 3: I do think it was them.
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, yeah, you're you're probably right, certainly, Arthur
Speaker 2: more than more than Damy. Let's take a quick break,
Speaker 2: and we were right back with a bit more chaos,
Speaker 2: and we're back slightly and sm have to hide from
Speaker 2: a defense patrol and when they look back home, wonderful
Speaker 2: slapstick like lially five.
Speaker 3: Seconds, I legit was screaming like this was so funny,
Speaker 3: so good has gonody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought as well, grabbed it
Speaker 2: and brought it to like the snot nest in order
Speaker 2: to and two minutes so that it could exactly, it
Speaker 2: could give birth in a controlled environment. But anyway, they
Speaker 2: look back and Arthur's gone, and the face Hugger falls
Speaker 2: dead from the tree. It has crawled off to die
Speaker 2: and Arthur. They look over there and Arthur is just
Speaker 2: standing there, not realizing anything that just happens, like what
Speaker 2: are we doing on it slightly tries to make up
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff like there's been a decontamination and
Speaker 2: your wife is waiting for you on the beach and
Speaker 2: we can't go back to the lab because of the
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on there, so let's get out of here.
Speaker 2: It becomes clear Arthur is like no memory of the
Speaker 2: last twenty four hours, and he thanks the kids for
Speaker 2: what he thinks is like some sort of life saving
Speaker 2: intervention that they've done because of what's going on back
Speaker 2: in the lab. They are strolling to the beach and
Speaker 2: Arthur is like having these snippets of the face Hugger
Speaker 2: jumping on him and just bad stuff, and he's like, no,
Speaker 2: something wrong, there is something wrong. Yeah, can we go
Speaker 2: back and let's go back and figure out, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever you guys are trying to do. I can tell
Speaker 2: you guys are lying because you're bad at it. Let's
Speaker 2: go back and we can work this all out. Don't worry,
Speaker 2: like no one's gonna get in trouble hands.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is a good emotional payoff moment
Speaker 3: because Atha I felt like was a kind of a
Speaker 3: whatever character till this point in the show, like he's
Speaker 3: mostly on the sides. But they do such a good
Speaker 3: job pair of you using that dramatic irony that you
Speaker 3: understand to make you really feel complicit and like pull
Speaker 3: it through this.
Speaker 1: But they shot this entire scene is kind of brilliant,
Speaker 1: Like they shoot a lot of it chest up, so
Speaker 1: if you know, like like you know, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: well now the chest burster comes out, and so the
Speaker 1: whole time, yeah yeah, yeah, you're like waiting for it,
Speaker 1: but you can't quite see his chest. You're like, what's
Speaker 1: going on. I thought the actual chest burster scene was
Speaker 1: filmed really well. It's not trying to feel really duplicate
Speaker 1: the original or anything. It's just as and like seeing
Speaker 1: the chessco conka first and then the thing jump out,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: They go to the tight kind of slow blood splatter
Speaker 2: reaction on the faces, just like the original alien. So
Speaker 2: the chest burster pops and the alien slithers off into
Speaker 2: the jungle, and Slightly is like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: gotta get the alien. It's Smee meanwhile is like an
Speaker 2: absolute I want to just say any of this.
Speaker 3: I want to shout out the actor who plays sme
Speaker 3: who is Jonathan j And I just think like this
Speaker 3: is the performance throughout every single time when I watched
Speaker 3: the episodes. I want to look after him, like he
Speaker 3: is the one who makes me believe he is a child,
Speaker 3: and he is like the lost person that I wanted
Speaker 3: to get caught up in this Slightly situation because he
Speaker 3: is just plays it so young and so scared and
Speaker 3: so realistic. And I just think for me, he is
Speaker 3: like the most believable of the kids. And I felt
Speaker 3: like this is a really strong episode for that, and
Speaker 3: it's just yeah, I want to protect.
Speaker 1: Me the horrors of being a child, you know, throughout
Speaker 1: the series, and I think really nailed it here, Like
Speaker 1: what do you think about Like I had a very
Speaker 1: like a pretty good childhood, you know, but like I
Speaker 1: it was like the worst. You have no agency, you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, you don't know what
Speaker 1: to ask for it's all very confusing, and you feel
Speaker 1: this need to like be an adult and to be
Speaker 1: an independent person, and so there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: like absolutely Slightly's journey, it's so freaking Relatable's like I
Speaker 1: have to protect my family, I have to do this
Speaker 1: solo and watching like and Snee's best buddy. Like to
Speaker 1: your point, Jason, like, no, you probably didn't needs me
Speaker 1: for this, but like that emotional support of like me
Speaker 1: and I are always together, he'll help me will be
Speaker 1: then to watch that completely like fade away and then yeah,
Speaker 1: in the next scene when he he's like I did everything,
Speaker 1: I did all of it. I just I was blown
Speaker 1: away by the different levels of like slight trauma that
Speaker 1: they are able to blow up. Yeah, exactly intense monstrous
Speaker 1: moment throughout this episode. And there's a lot of critique
Speaker 1: in here, but I thought this episode was pretty strong
Speaker 1: on a lot of different things, and on that.
Speaker 3: Horror the character stuff starts to really pay off for
Speaker 3: me here. It's just I do I questioned some of
Speaker 3: the choices.
Speaker 1: That's a little just hitting.
Speaker 2: We get it. We get a scene of that's quite
Speaker 2: touching with Curly now struggling with all that Wendy has
Speaker 2: said to her and everything that's currently going on in
Speaker 2: the lab. She goes to Damon basically yeah, treats Dame
Speaker 2: as a surrey At mother figure, which breaks Dame's heart.
Speaker 2: You could see she does love it. It also breaks
Speaker 2: her heart and hopefully, yes, realize what a terrible person
Speaker 2: she is. Is she like, wake up curly, Yeah, likely.
Speaker 3: Hind of Damon off that having some kind of child
Speaker 3: who died, I was really getting those vibes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that might see never had a chance.
Speaker 3: I never had it. There's some kind of surrogate aspect
Speaker 3: here that both of them.
Speaker 1: Yes, you watch episode one. In the background of a
Speaker 1: scene when they're first introducing Wendy to the table, you
Speaker 1: can hear them very quietly talking about like, oh, should
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 2: Children or whatever?
Speaker 1: Uh, and she's like, these are our children now? And
Speaker 1: Carmen in the chat is saying that there's like a
Speaker 1: photo of a child on the wall, which is possible.
Speaker 1: So I do think you guys are in the right
Speaker 1: realm of like they were like maybe they had a
Speaker 1: kid and lost it. Maybe they were thinking of trying
Speaker 1: to have kids soon, And for whatever reason, Dame has
Speaker 1: been like, these are just gonna be the kids, like,
Speaker 1: this is what we can't have access to, so let's
Speaker 1: just raise these obvious and it's clear. Arthur's like, I
Speaker 1: would like a life out like off this island.
Speaker 3: Eventually, Yeah, and he was right.
Speaker 2: You me and Slightly keep going with just Arthur's corpse.
Speaker 2: Now they arrive at the beach and the Utaani Sealed
Speaker 2: Team six comes out of the water with Morrow and
Speaker 2: the lead. He is mad at Slightly for bringing sme,
Speaker 2: but realizes instantly that we've lost the alien, so we
Speaker 2: need to go look for it. Slightly is trying to
Speaker 2: make excuses and says like, listen, you didn't tell me.
Speaker 2: You told me I had two days for the gestation
Speaker 2: period and it popped like a day later. Like none
Speaker 2: of this is of course registering. Morrow then orders his
Speaker 2: forces to take the sense with him. Just capture the sins,
Speaker 2: take them with Adam is updating Boy Genius about current
Speaker 2: ongoing stuff in the facility. The xenomorphous is in the
Speaker 2: wind it it escaped through a pipe and is now
Speaker 2: running around the island. No sign of the sinse Boy Genius, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: is like, whatever, whatever, let's talk about this sheep. I
Speaker 2: love this sheep. This sheep is fucking crazy. That's why
Speaker 2: I brought it to my podcast studio. I want to
Speaker 2: talk to this sheep, and just like in my favorite
Speaker 2: movie Contact, I'm going to use maths to talk to
Speaker 2: the sheep. And he writes pie like on a notepad
Speaker 2: and is like three point one, Okay, what are the
Speaker 2: other decimals? The following decimals. The sheep starts stamping out
Speaker 2: like the next three numbers, but then makes the Shin
Speaker 2: is like that's enough. Come on, I proved I'm smart, right,
Speaker 2: fuck you? And boy Genius is like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is awesome. But we got to put the e
Speaker 2: into a person so I can talk to it. And
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I know, just I know who to use,
Speaker 2: but we don't. It doesn't go any further. We just
Speaker 2: I love I want to talk about it theory corner.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that. He was just like, I'll go make
Speaker 3: you a list people.
Speaker 4: Immediately Adam Adam is going to the boats to the
Speaker 4: boat launch and to leave. Sonys and Joe head to
Speaker 4: the boat launch and they were ambushed by the seals.
Speaker 4: Wendy is like, you guys better get the fuck out
Speaker 4: of here. Before it's too late. Uh, you better leave
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: Oh this sorry, this is before they get to boat
Speaker 2: lotch just in the jungle, and she's like, you're not
Speaker 2: gonna leave, okay, watch this, and she did. She does
Speaker 2: her little and the comes and instantly kills the seals.
Speaker 2: Nibs fucking loves it. Save this for later when we
Speaker 2: talk about why these sins should be turned off. Immediately,
Speaker 2: Joe is mad at letting at Wendy for letting the
Speaker 2: Xenomorph out, and Wendy's talking to it. She wipes some
Speaker 2: little blood off of its little eye thing whatever that
Speaker 2: kind of like space where the eye should be, and
Speaker 2: then it runs off and she's like, Joe, I told
Speaker 2: it to hide and follow us, so don't worry about
Speaker 2: stuff baby Zenomorph. Meanwhile, I think baby Xenomorph is captured.
Speaker 2: We are seem to find out is captured by Kersh.
Speaker 2: Morrow marches Sme and Slightly into the facility, where they're
Speaker 2: met by Prodigy security forces led by Kersh, and he
Speaker 2: has Moro taken into custody. Meanwhile, Wendy, Joe, and Nibs
Speaker 2: get to the dock. Joe's search and rescue team confronts
Speaker 2: them and NIBBs. NIBBs is like, we're not going back.
Speaker 2: We're never going back, and she rips off one of
Speaker 2: Joe's friend's jaw. Listen, I loved it. I love that
Speaker 2: this happened, but again, we can't have these things running
Speaker 2: around long term. Wendy calls the alien. Joe shocks Wendy
Speaker 2: down as like the alien is about to kill and
Speaker 2: she's maybe about to kill one of his search and
Speaker 2: rescue buddies. Wendy is like furious about this, what did
Speaker 2: you do? And then we get a very like unsatisfying
Speaker 2: and kind of weird, drawn out ending to the episode
Speaker 2: where everybody's having this standoff on the boat. Let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break, let's be in this recap, and then
Speaker 2: when we return, we will welcome in Carmen and we
Speaker 2: will talk about this episode.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 2: Welcome Carmen.
Speaker 3: Hello, thanks for having How are you doing common, I'm great.
Speaker 5: I loved this episode.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's talk some theory corner kursh I feel
Speaker 2: like it has although it seems that he has other
Speaker 2: goals which we are unclear about, right, but I think
Speaker 2: that it's clear that you Tani had him and Morrow
Speaker 2: in a bake off for who can get the alien.
Speaker 2: Because the way Kersh is like, haha, finders keepers I
Speaker 2: won led me to believe that. I think we were
Speaker 2: right that Kirsh is a model, is like is a
Speaker 2: planted Utani can I Postmen has a beautiful theory.
Speaker 1: Karmen was texting me about it this morning and I
Speaker 1: was freaking out. Was like, this is the best.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
Speaker 5: While I love the idea that you Tani, Yeah, like
Speaker 5: I love the idea. We've got this corporate espionage thing
Speaker 5: going on. I think Kersh, however, it in it for himself.
Speaker 5: I think Kersh wants his own autonomy and I think
Speaker 5: I'm thinking like West World when I am thinking about that,
Speaker 5: and just just kind of he is looking at the children.
Speaker 5: He is thinking, oh sorry, no go ahead, no bed Well,
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, he's looking at the children and
Speaker 5: he's finding I think he's manipulating these scenarios in a
Speaker 5: way where he's doing things that he's finding loopholes around
Speaker 5: his programming. He can't actually kill boy Cavalier, he can't
Speaker 5: harm anyone, but he can let chaos just unleash and
Speaker 5: do for him.
Speaker 2: Essentially, get to your pointing, Oh, sorry, God, I was.
Speaker 1: Just gonna say what you what you had said, It
Speaker 1: was really interesting to me in your your text was
Speaker 1: this idea of like the show has posed, like started
Speaker 1: off with this idea of like these are since these
Speaker 1: are hybrids, and this idea we all the interactions we've
Speaker 1: had between Morrow and Kersh are sort of this back
Speaker 1: and forth of like who's more paw powerful, like you know,
Speaker 1: who's like most up to date, which I do you
Speaker 1: think sort of flows into the utania of it all,
Speaker 1: But then yeah, too, like if you bring it back
Speaker 1: into this idea of like, Okay, well now we have
Speaker 1: this new type of form and he's so insistent that
Speaker 1: the kids are not humans, and to me that really
Speaker 1: speaks to like, okay, he has he is using the
Speaker 1: tools around him to manipulate and get out and in
Speaker 1: order to find like his own his own freedom. The
Speaker 1: thing that he tells Joe in the previous episode, like
Speaker 1: that's not what your sister's gonna want to do, Like
Speaker 1: she has no use for a family, She's gonna want
Speaker 1: to go out and explore. I think he's talking about himself.
Speaker 1: And then you had also brought up we've talked so
Speaker 1: much about this idea of scorpion and power and who's
Speaker 1: getting crushed and you text me it's word of You're
Speaker 1: like curses the scorpion, and I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: here for this. I'm gon s idea.
Speaker 3: He's realizing that the next evolution, So what can he
Speaker 3: do to.
Speaker 2: Just if this is the case, how I'm kind of
Speaker 2: bored and at this point like, really, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: another the robot has Yeah, because he's here's my issue.
Speaker 2: It does track with Alien which in which you know
Speaker 2: Ash goes crazy, but he goes crazy because he's been
Speaker 2: ordered to do something that goes against his programming. So
Speaker 2: maybe there is a mirror thing here where Kersha's been
Speaker 2: because of some like like utany like base programming is
Speaker 2: being ordered to go against his master yes, and therefore
Speaker 2: it is like going to do all this stuff. I
Speaker 2: just hope it's not one of these like because why
Speaker 2: we've talked about how inconsistent like the programming, the security,
Speaker 2: all the things out on the tech are and this
Speaker 2: is would be too Diosex machinough for me, that boy
Speaker 2: genius who is a genius. We have to accept this
Speaker 2: or like why do we even give a shit would
Speaker 2: have a synth that could just decide one day that
Speaker 2: it doesn't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, this guy this true, that would fit in if as.
Speaker 3: One of the most popular theories that I'm currently seeing
Speaker 3: is that boy Genius is also a sin.
Speaker 2: I don't buy it, and why are we experimenting? Yeah,
Speaker 2: why are we experimenting?
Speaker 3: Then doesn't know? That's the generalized theory is that he
Speaker 3: thinks he's human.
Speaker 5: And I buy into that theory, you know myself, Like
Speaker 5: I that is something that I have been analyzing and like, oh,
Speaker 5: I can totally see him being a puppet and Adam
Speaker 5: I and being the actual puppeteer. But for me, I
Speaker 5: need that ie to I need his skull to get
Speaker 5: fucked by that eye.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, guys can't have let's talk about
Speaker 3: that because a obviously we all want to see that
Speaker 3: in the finale of But I have realized from this
Speaker 3: episode because I'll tell you an ongoing issue I have
Speaker 3: had in this series that I think is the issue
Speaker 3: other people have had too, is I don't know if
Speaker 3: the character of Hermit slash Joe has any juice, Like
Speaker 3: I don't think he has the juice to help her
Speaker 3: stop something. I don't think he has the juice to
Speaker 3: inspire her to do something. I think it was an
Speaker 3: in character that maybe doesn't work, but I do predict
Speaker 3: that I think boy genius wants to put the eye
Speaker 3: in Joe. I think because he wants white guy who
Speaker 3: is like who looks like him, who acts like him,
Speaker 3: to be the person who is as smart as him.
Speaker 3: And I think that Joe. I think that I may
Speaker 3: kill Joe. That would be bleak, I would like it,
Speaker 3: or as Beg is hoping it will go into Joe,
Speaker 3: it goes into Beg.
Speaker 2: I so well, wait, hold on, I want to say that, yeah,
Speaker 2: Joe on Joe. I agree, Joe is is a little juiceless.
Speaker 2: Although I was because I was wondering about this. I
Speaker 2: do think that Joe exists as the stand in for
Speaker 2: the audience to uh, as a tool for the audience
Speaker 2: to realize that this is not his, this is not
Speaker 2: a human, this is not a person. Is because his
Speaker 2: constant like, oh, we got to do this, and you know,
Speaker 2: you and me, and we got to get out of here,
Speaker 2: and I'm taking care of my sister. No, your sister
Speaker 2: is much more capable. First, of all, this entity is
Speaker 2: much more capable than you, and it is not your sister.
Speaker 2: So I think that is ultimately the reason Joe exists
Speaker 2: in this story is for him and us to come
Speaker 2: to a point where we realize that these are.
Speaker 3: Not humans and these are choice the character.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we talked about this a little
Speaker 1: bit last week, that it just falls a little bit black.
Speaker 2: I like it might work more.
Speaker 1: If he was also pushing his sister to see that
Speaker 1: she's not a real human. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: sort of lacking in within Wendy, like us not knowing
Speaker 1: like what she's communicating or like how she's like. We
Speaker 1: just don't kind of spend enough time with either of
Speaker 1: them to either get the fracturing and separation of them,
Speaker 1: or does he like where are they still together? Because
Speaker 1: I think it's much more interesting if Wendy is not
Speaker 1: that obviously the child that came in, but there's still
Speaker 1: parts of her there. And I don't think we have
Speaker 1: a very clear indication of like how much is robot,
Speaker 1: how much is coated person who died? Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a theory about this. Eye here we go. You guys,
Speaker 1: remember when we were really obsessed with, Uh, what are
Speaker 1: they doing with this guy just smoking these walls? He
Speaker 1: calls from like a janitor or somebody who's like hyper replaceable,
Speaker 1: And I said, like yeah, and just from a creep factor,
Speaker 1: like the costuming of the mold guy is like creaky always.
Speaker 1: It's like bulky. It's got like a pretty like standout
Speaker 1: silhouette where you would notice it in a dark kind
Speaker 1: of shadowy space and if you put that like Medie
Speaker 1: Moody eye in it. I just think from a character
Speaker 1: design perspective, it looks really cool. And you know, we
Speaker 1: only have one episode left, like I don't know, and
Speaker 1: then we're sad or whatever. Screw that. Just show me
Speaker 1: another cool creature that goes out in control and that's
Speaker 1: what I like. Boys, Cavalier's own humans kills him and
Speaker 1: we can move on at this point.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, there's one more creature. Oh there's no more
Speaker 5: teature that we haven't seen an action yet, and that's
Speaker 5: that weird plant like creature.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I really hope they're saving him to the finale. Something's
Speaker 1: really cool and creepy. Yeah, he'd be slithering all around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think at this point, you know, we were touching
Speaker 1: on it a little bit earlier we said a lot
Speaker 1: of people would need to die in this episode, which
Speaker 1: we were correct. We were too close to the end.
Speaker 1: We have to do a big quelling and we got that.
Speaker 1: I think for the ending we need fireworks so everybody's
Speaker 1: on the island, their house together. The lines have been drawn.
Speaker 1: I do think we need a U Tanni drop in
Speaker 1: to either clarify she's been running both sides, and or
Speaker 1: to be like the period at the end of this sentence,
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, it's prodigy is burned down. You
Speaker 1: Tani is taking us over. We got our guys back.
Speaker 1: What wait are you guys hoping as we step into
Speaker 1: the finale to see what questions do you need answered?
Speaker 2: Most?
Speaker 3: Yes, That's why I was gonna say, Jason, what do
Speaker 3: you feel like is your biggest Like? How could what
Speaker 3: what would happen that would make a finale so good
Speaker 3: it makes the rest of the season better. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm interested in because we saw we saw reviews for
Speaker 3: this whole season from critics who had had the whole season,
Speaker 3: and they were saying nine out of ten, they were saying,
Speaker 3: this is similar to and or level. I need to
Speaker 3: know what happens.
Speaker 2: Level and I don't think anything could happen and nothing
Speaker 2: could happen in the finale that would lift a hand or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I thought I had that potential in the
Speaker 3: first two episodes, but.
Speaker 2: It did maybe yea out there are I mean there
Speaker 2: are Listen, this is a great show. There are various
Speaker 2: cacing problems throughout that keep it from being like illegally elite.
Speaker 2: That said, I think we would need to I would
Speaker 2: need to see something that would make me understand how
Speaker 2: we could have a season two. I think that's those
Speaker 2: the because at this point, I'm like, how could we
Speaker 2: have a season? It does?
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to be a closed loop
Speaker 3: at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how would it be possible to have one?
Speaker 2: And you know, it has been kind of dropping hints
Speaker 2: about how it could happen, how it could work. So
Speaker 2: I guess I would need to see. I guess I
Speaker 2: would need to see how, yeah, how that could happen.
Speaker 2: I would need to I would need answers about like
Speaker 2: Whomorrow is working for, who Kersh is working for, what
Speaker 2: Kirsh's motivations are, and how it is that the earth
Speaker 2: that exists after this is not like just lousy with
Speaker 2: various aliens running around to and fro, like how did
Speaker 2: they stop this?
Speaker 3: That's what I would know, That's.
Speaker 2: What I need.
Speaker 3: I would like a zoom out. I would like a
Speaker 3: zoom out to see how this is going to impact
Speaker 3: the world, How this is going to impact Prodigy, how
Speaker 3: this is going to impact these corporations that we know
Speaker 3: now are kind of shaping the world. And I will
Speaker 3: say that was a big change, you know, for a
Speaker 3: lot of like deep Alien readers who had read a
Speaker 3: lot of the comics or I'd read a lot of
Speaker 3: the books. This was a of the corporations that we
Speaker 3: know who were currently active at the time. So I
Speaker 3: want them to deliver on that because I'm all for
Speaker 3: changing or shifting Cannon, but I always wanted to add
Speaker 3: something new. So I want to kind of know, like Jason,
Speaker 3: where we are, where we stand at the end, and
Speaker 3: then that will tell me whether or not I'm really
Speaker 3: hyped for a second season.
Speaker 1: Carmen, what do you need?
Speaker 2: Finally, I have us.
Speaker 5: I think I have simpler needs.
Speaker 3: I would love for a lot.
Speaker 5: Of these loops to be closed on, especially I remember
Speaker 5: in the first three episodes of the season, I was
Speaker 5: really obsessed with that mold scrubber and just like what
Speaker 5: was going on.
Speaker 3: With Yeah, why were they showing him so much?
Speaker 5: I felt like he was heavily featured in the first
Speaker 5: few episodes and then not later on. I am glad
Speaker 5: that now those powers that Wendy had early on in
Speaker 5: the season are starting to come back into play.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: But I just need to know, like, yeah, like, is
Speaker 5: that I.
Speaker 3: Gonna get boy genius?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Enough Eye, Yeah, there has really not been enough.
Speaker 3: I have definitely been the breakout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him. I've been calling her, uh in
Speaker 1: addition to iOpus Dolly because Dolly is the first sheep
Speaker 1: that got called and I just feel like it's appropriate.
Speaker 1: Uh So this is our Eye, Dolly, our octopus iOpus.
Speaker 1: I really yeah, I would I need it. Seems like
Speaker 1: the Eye has been scheming as well, and I need
Speaker 1: all of the schemes to come together. Yes we have
Speaker 1: heard that question, Yes we The question that kept coming
Speaker 1: up throughout this episode is what have you done? And
Speaker 1: this lack of like communication and understanding, there's like a
Speaker 1: lot of betrayals in here.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I would like to see some aliens working together. I
Speaker 1: would like to see y'all like teaming up because it's
Speaker 1: clear they're so all in communication and all have the
Speaker 1: same goals. I think they're all from the same planet. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you think they're from the Predator planet? The more
Speaker 1: I think about out it. Carmen and I were also
Speaker 1: texting about some of those traits of Predator showing up
Speaker 1: in the fly Alien definitely, and so I I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we know predators like to breed xenomorphs and
Speaker 1: have their kids hunt them as like training exercises.
Speaker 3: And also the movie is coming out so soon Predator exactly.
Speaker 1: It feels like it was with a Utah exactly, and
Speaker 1: so so I would really like to see like both
Speaker 1: like how are these creatures working together and why do
Speaker 1: they have like what's their end goal? Because it can't
Speaker 1: just I mean maybe it is just escape, But is
Speaker 1: that like let's get on a ship and get out
Speaker 1: of here? Does that take over the plane?
Speaker 3: Aliens?
Speaker 1: And then I need me to get to safety. Someone
Speaker 1: protects my son, my sweet don't kill prepared.
Speaker 3: I would also say for me, and this is going
Speaker 3: to be this is less what I want to see.
Speaker 3: This is what I think is going to happen because
Speaker 3: I understand how they telegraph these things because I watch
Speaker 3: a lot of shows and movies that use these tropes,
Speaker 3: and I do love them. Look, am I somebody who
Speaker 3: loves Terminator too? And I love a child sidekick? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do.
Speaker 3: I often enjoy the parts of shows like this where
Speaker 3: people where, you know, like they think it's like an
Speaker 3: arm pumping moment and everyone's rolling their eyes, but I'm
Speaker 3: pumping my arm. Yes, I do believe at some point
Speaker 3: in that serial, like in the finale, they are going
Speaker 3: to have a moment with Wendy like running alongside the
Speaker 3: Xenomorph like they are a team, and Alien fans around
Speaker 3: the world they're gonna hate it, and depending on how
Speaker 3: they do it, I'm probably gonna love it. But I'm interested.
Speaker 3: I feel like that is inevitable, and I feel like
Speaker 3: from the critiques I've been seeing of the show, I
Speaker 3: don't think that's gonna enamor anyone more.
Speaker 2: I will hate it. I would that all the way.
Speaker 2: I think the reason that I mean, listen, the story
Speaker 2: of Alien is always that you think you can control
Speaker 2: nature and you can't exactly, and it would so it
Speaker 2: would be a weirdly discordant note for me if it
Speaker 2: was like, actually, we can make them pets, but this
Speaker 2: is the next mine.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I can? I can I pod? In theory, though,
Speaker 1: these are two uncontrollable forces of nature and she is
Speaker 1: not trying to control, simply to communicate with, and if
Speaker 1: they see each other as being on the same side,
Speaker 1: that's somewhat interesting to me. I agree that if it's
Speaker 1: like this is my pet, and I like use it
Speaker 1: like a Pokemon or like go gos, you know more
Speaker 1: than I'm like.
Speaker 2: Far been using it as a fucking Pokemon.
Speaker 1: Which honestly I'm sure like Sniper friend like, she's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're like six Clicks of the South. Can you just
Speaker 1: take these guys out?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, the idea, I do think the idea
Speaker 2: that like we have that you know, these scientists have
Speaker 2: like unwittingly created or engaged with, like two super predators,
Speaker 2: one that they created and one that they got on
Speaker 2: another planet. Yeah, which leads me further to even feel
Speaker 2: more strongly that all these syths needs to be shut
Speaker 2: off immediately. JA got them down, kids, You've been bamboozled
Speaker 2: into believing their names. Just tore a guy's fucking jaw
Speaker 2: because I hate that guy, But so you think that
Speaker 2: she's not going to tear anybody else's jaw off the people.
Speaker 1: I think people people and people people at people.
Speaker 2: That is it is listen. If they are to be
Speaker 2: if they are to know, if they are to be
Speaker 2: allowed to continue to exist, they must be nerved. We
Speaker 2: cannot have these child like ais that are capable of
Speaker 2: tearing off people's limbs. Children should not have mentally balanced
Speaker 2: and can also like hack into every computer and talk
Speaker 2: to aliens like we we just like, can we at
Speaker 2: least give them like human level strength and abilities.
Speaker 3: Before we're like, yeah, let run around. Yes, I think
Speaker 3: that that is sensible. I will also say, I my
Speaker 3: other gut feeling is that a good emotional arc for
Speaker 3: Wendy and his animal would be if the xenomorph killed Joe,
Speaker 3: like because that is a reality. Like, I don't think
Speaker 3: kill him, kill him.
Speaker 2: I did almost kill him.
Speaker 3: She has to and now it's just seen him shot
Speaker 3: her right like now he I think that she has
Speaker 3: to realize there is a human cost that she can't
Speaker 3: comprehend having, and I think it should be Joe. Sorry,
Speaker 3: Alex Lotha, I love it.
Speaker 2: It's got to be Joe I also agree that it
Speaker 2: should be Joe, that it should like incapacitate him and
Speaker 2: try to drag him to the eggs.
Speaker 1: I think I think most interesting is if Wendy takes
Speaker 1: out Joe.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: Left about their relationship. It's like we're we're not on
Speaker 1: the same page. You willfully took out Nibs, which to
Speaker 1: her is like, that's my younger sibling, like I ushered
Speaker 1: her into this space. That's nuts. You're not listening to me.
Speaker 1: You don't hear me. I identify more with the alien creature.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if they team up, that can work,
Speaker 1: so long as she turns into one of them and
Speaker 1: she's fully on their side and she's like, no, Joe,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. That to me makes Any twenty much
Speaker 1: more interesting and it gives us a good jumping off
Speaker 1: point for season two.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the I just I'm interested in what
Speaker 2: an alien's motivation besides like reproduce is yes, and I
Speaker 2: think that's also a dangerous thing for this. I agree
Speaker 2: if they do.
Speaker 3: This is the thing I think that you. I think
Speaker 3: this is as we were talking about all of this,
Speaker 3: and we are talking about you know, the sense and hybrids,
Speaker 3: and we've had so much fun covering the show, and
Speaker 3: early on I really thought it was a contender for
Speaker 3: Show of the year. First two episodes I just thought
Speaker 3: was so fantastic. But I will say I think all
Speaker 3: critique of where we are at and where the show
Speaker 3: is is fair because this isn't just a spin off
Speaker 3: of a thing or a you know, a reboot of
Speaker 3: a thing. It is also like nowadays, we are adding law,
Speaker 3: we are adding context, we are adding you know, retroactive history.
Speaker 3: And one thing I will say that most other shows
Speaker 3: that do this do not have to contend with is
Speaker 3: like hr Geiger's xenomorph as it exists in the first
Speaker 3: Alien movie. You know, with that Ridley Scott perceived and
Speaker 3: the way that the two of them worked together, it
Speaker 3: was so unknowable and terrifying that that is why Alien
Speaker 3: is good. And I think that as much as I
Speaker 3: love the broadening and I love this, I do think
Speaker 3: like to have Wendy able to control like a Pokemon,
Speaker 3: it could it takes away some of the fear.
Speaker 2: I agree, I completely agree. I hope that, I really
Speaker 2: hope that what happens at the end of this is
Speaker 2: that it doesn't she loses quote unquote control of it
Speaker 2: if she ever had it, Because I do think that
Speaker 2: ultimately the alien exists to implant its eggs in mammals,
Speaker 2: and it wants to do that, and it's not going
Speaker 2: to do that the planet. Yeah, and I think and
Speaker 2: I think the other you know, Listen, the lesson that
Speaker 2: humans are going to take away from this entire debacle
Speaker 2: is that we almost did it. We almost figured out
Speaker 2: way to way to control them, right, a couple of tweaks,
Speaker 2: a couple of tweaks in the algorithm, or a couple
Speaker 2: of tweaks to the synth hybrid algorithm. We're just firmer
Speaker 2: controls where it doesn't, has less free will, right, and
Speaker 2: is more clear about how it's how it's communicating with
Speaker 2: the alien, so we can learn how to do it.
Speaker 1: And we can do it.
Speaker 2: Like, well, that can't be the takeaway.
Speaker 3: I have to say. I kind of think that maybe
Speaker 3: the best finale actually is like the Hubris of Whale
Speaker 3: and Utani as a corporation or something. You see them
Speaker 3: at the end basically just being like, we've got the
Speaker 3: next step in human evolution and it's this, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna send a ship in to get it and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah and kind of it is. And then you know,
Speaker 3: you do a zoom away of the island and it's
Speaker 3: just all the dead bodies being fucking like pulled off
Speaker 3: the island like that hubris of humanity. Because, like Jason,
Speaker 3: I think you summed it up so well. The only
Speaker 3: thing that anyone's gonna take from this is we almost
Speaker 3: did it. And that is actually a pretty powerful message
Speaker 3: of the show, is like, yeah, you got to go
Speaker 3: on all these adventures, but guess what, these motherfuckers are dead,
Speaker 3: and it's just gonna continue to be a cycle of Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean there's so many there's so many animals on
Speaker 2: this island, Like this place is going to be full
Speaker 2: of aliens like three days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be crazy. You know what. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie that. Jason was cracking when you mentioned this
Speaker 3: a minute ago. Was thinking about one of my favorite
Speaker 3: recent tweets where you were kind of talking about the
Speaker 3: pokemon of it all. I think a lot about it
Speaker 3: was it was like a tweet somebody did that was
Speaker 3: like the Jurassic World movies are so funny to me
Speaker 3: because it's just about white people who think they could
Speaker 3: make dinosaurs their pets, you know, and everyone like Chris
Speaker 3: Chris Prat's just going around like put giving it the
Speaker 3: hand and the rat. And I think that there is
Speaker 3: something kind of funny and subversive if the show is
Speaker 3: playing on those tropes and kind of reveals in the
Speaker 3: finale that that even if you are a hybrid, you
Speaker 3: we saw it killed it killed Isaac, like they killed
Speaker 3: my boy. They killed them. No problem food.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's no food.
Speaker 3: That's their food, Like, that's not they You spent six
Speaker 3: billion dollars on it, but for them, it's like a
Speaker 3: fry up at the local cafe, like two pounds. They
Speaker 3: don't care. Like so I think from this conversation, I
Speaker 3: would be very in trusted to see how they play
Speaker 3: with maybe our expectations of what we think we're gonna
Speaker 3: get and what they actually do, and kind of whether
Speaker 3: or not that Hubris is going to be at the
Speaker 3: heart of it, because I think that's very could be
Speaker 3: very fun and Wendy.
Speaker 2: I think it's the Hubris of Wendy. I'm waiting to
Speaker 2: see if that, uh, if anything pays off of that,
Speaker 2: because I think I'm saying a little overly familiar, like yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got this, I've got this alien on lock like
Speaker 2: he follows me.
Speaker 1: She's like I know everything, Like yeah, exactly, I'm the oldest,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's really accurate. Okay, wait, guys,
Speaker 1: if there is a winner, if we if we get
Speaker 1: to the end of episode eight and there is a conclusive,
Speaker 1: I need it to be the Eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say this.
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for the kids. I know that that's the
Speaker 5: unpower sweet.
Speaker 3: I also love a good kid.
Speaker 1: Because we know a season two is coming, I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for kersh to him, just because I've been really enjoying
Speaker 1: his journey.
Speaker 2: I will see.
Speaker 1: It's a little too in the background for me. I
Speaker 1: wish that they had beefed up.
Speaker 3: I agree, he's a bit too.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little too trophy, But I thought we
Speaker 1: were like the evil villain speech when he like, you
Speaker 1: have a whole army at your back, you're finding fronting
Speaker 1: your enemy, and it felt good like it, But then
Speaker 1: that was like is that it like where it was incompletely?
Speaker 2: It was a little weird too, for like all the
Speaker 2: security guys to just be like, Okay, we're following Kersh
Speaker 2: to do what's.
Speaker 1: Just to understand this should have been the reveal of like,
Speaker 1: this just cursed. This is what he'd been doing in
Speaker 1: the background the whole time here and then tomorrow to
Speaker 1: be our winner in the next season.
Speaker 2: Here is my hope, and I hope that the Eye
Speaker 2: gets into Boy Genius. It convinces Adam and Kersh to
Speaker 2: keep working hard.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: It's gonna wear sunglasses or some thankful all the time now,
Speaker 2: and it's going to just because obviously, I think it
Speaker 2: would be a fucking disaster for the stock price if
Speaker 2: it was revealed that Boy Genius was either synse or
Speaker 2: that Adam was pulling strings or like any of these
Speaker 2: things don't really work for me because it's like, how
Speaker 2: do you have a company after this? I think what
Speaker 2: they will I think what the workaround will be. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Eye is now our CEO, and we'll just like
Speaker 2: let that.
Speaker 6: I think honestly, and that, honestly would actually be a
Speaker 6: pretty deep sting podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, start wearing that's what we'll know.
Speaker 3: We'll be like everyone is like it would be really
Speaker 3: funny because Jason's just like really happy they got into
Speaker 3: the pan analogy. But now the Eye is just like
Speaker 3: doing super super super super fucked up and just like, well,
Speaker 3: thank god he's not reading Pea Pan anymore, like he's
Speaker 3: talking about famous eyes throughout history. But yeah, I would
Speaker 3: I mean I would love that because it would be
Speaker 3: a pretty deep statement on what CEOs are willing to
Speaker 3: put up with from execs to keep things going. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. Well, so we should
Speaker 3: make an extra vision I T shirt. I feel like
Speaker 3: we've been supporting that eye for the whole time.
Speaker 2: Listen, the eye has been through hell and I just
Speaker 2: love the Eye to get out of that little container. YEA,
Speaker 2: all right, extra vision, We're heading back to school as
Speaker 2: we cover the first whole episodes of the next season
Speaker 2: of jen V and the new Jordan Peele produce sports
Speaker 2: horror movie Him. That's it for this episode. Extra thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us, guys. Hey x ray Vision is hosted
Speaker 2: by Jason sept Young and Rosie Knight and is a
Speaker 2: production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman.
Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.
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Speaker 2: Theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme songs
Speaker 2: by Aaron Kaufman.
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