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Speaker 1: Warning.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for Alien Earth episode seven Emergence

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Speaker 2: be Warner. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm

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Speaker 2: Rosey Night and welcome back to ext Revision of the

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Speaker 2: podcast where we dive the your favorite shows, movies, comics

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Speaker 2: three episodes a week, plus news, same plus news.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are opening the air locom walking

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Speaker 3: into the very dangerous realm of Alien Half episode seven.

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Speaker 3: We are going to be recapping it, and then we

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Speaker 3: will be joined by Joel and Common to speculate about

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Speaker 3: upcoming finale. Joel, do you want to be in for

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Speaker 3: the recap too? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I can hang out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay. We are joined by super producer Joel to

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Speaker 3: do our recap and then will be bringing in Common

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Speaker 3: to speculate about the upcoming Binali. But first let's do it, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Let's freak out time. Emergence Alien Earth episode seven slightly

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Speaker 2: has dragged Arthur and the Face Hugger to his room

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Speaker 2: all alone through the vent system.

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Speaker 3: I just there's what I mean. They go to have

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Speaker 3: bed a security. I know I'm repeating myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm like I mean, it's insane that.

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Speaker 3: He vent system as well that like you call, I

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Speaker 3: feel like there should be a camera in the event

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Speaker 2: Just to get this further out of the way. Also

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Speaker 2: before we really get into it, he got Arthur there

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Speaker 2: alone but then needs help getting him to the beach.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't need help getting into the beach. He could

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Speaker 2: have carried him shoulder to the beach by himself.

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Speaker 1: Oging something from the stand like a second person.

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Speaker 2: Can I get it? But he can jump one hundred

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Speaker 2: feet off a canyon and land on his feet. Yeah, actually,

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Speaker 2: and he dragged own deadweight man alone through the events

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Speaker 2: like he can.

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Speaker 3: I will say anyway, there is there is a power

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Speaker 3: and consistency issue with hybrids are allowed. It does a

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Speaker 2: So he quite charmingly is is concerned that the face

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Speaker 2: hugger is not letting Arthur breathe, so he tries to

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Speaker 1: Next thing some water, and he's like, is he choking

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Speaker 2: Why don't they should have looked for that.

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Speaker 3: They should have had these hybrids, Like when they saw

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Speaker 3: this stuff happening, they should have made them watch it.

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Speaker 3: They saw how scared they were. That could have been

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Speaker 2: A lad too late, it's too late for all of this. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: there's a knock it Smee. Smee first forces his way

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Speaker 2: Goes in there, sees Arthur's arms sticking out under the bed,

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Speaker 2: and slightly is like trying to tell Smee everything in

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Speaker 2: this like burst of emotion, like my family, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do it. I didn't know what

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Speaker 3: How did it take this long? Guy?

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Speaker 1: Why now? And not before?

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, guys, I feel like you know

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Speaker 3: Noah Holy. He's the kind of guy where people are like,

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Speaker 3: I need to see the blueprints because I'm having issues

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Speaker 2: It could be that Kersh suppressed the alarms till now.

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Speaker 3: I do think that generally he's he's doing some kind

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Speaker 2: But it'd be great to know for sure, Like what anyway,

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Speaker 2: Curse overrides the doors. They like shock the bugs with

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Speaker 2: This happened on purpose. Let's watch the tape. They watch

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Speaker 2: plan this, and boy Genius is like, Wow, that's so cool,

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Speaker 2: Wendy comes down, sees tootles and realizes is like, wait,

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Speaker 2: and then she like whisper, whispers something or like hunger games,

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Speaker 2: Wendy's going to go tell the rest of the Sense

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Speaker 2: Kurse then realizes all the trackers on the Sense are off,

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Speaker 2: Toodles is dead, Tootles slash, Isaac is dead and we're

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Speaker 2: not safe, YadA YadA. Joe's like, okay, we gotta leave.

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Speaker 2: We're leaving. I conspired with Arthur to turn off your

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Speaker 2: And She's like, well, we got to get the rest

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Speaker 2: Wendy has her way. They go to see Nibs. Curly

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Speaker 2: And Nibs, meanwhile, is the reboot clearly didn't work because

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Speaker 2: get more Epstein Island. Wendy tells them listen, Isaac is dead, uh,

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Speaker 2: and we have to leave because they're doing bad stuff here.

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Speaker 2: Curly is like, how dare you talk about boy genius

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Speaker 3: So she might keep the secret if it means she

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Speaker 2: So Wendy, I guess, feels like they need a distraction.

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Speaker 2: So she hacks into the security system with her little

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Speaker 2: one way I think to that abstraction. Maybe there were

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Speaker 1: She chose the best and easiest DI strategy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again this is no critique of Wendy. I

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Speaker 3: think this is a good distraction. I am once again

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Speaker 3: back to the security system. Sere the moment that you

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Speaker 1: So this was the authorization code. They need your something.

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Speaker 1: You can't just file the doors.

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Speaker 3: The robot has to say something, and then an adam

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Speaker 2: Has to be there physically, like one person in the

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Speaker 2: It's something like that.

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Speaker 3: Same way. They shouldn't have sent poor old Isaac down

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm beginning to realize that Kirsh played all

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Speaker 3: I think has been enjoying a lot of experimentation on

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Speaker 2: Yes, so the xenomorph gets out and immediately murks like

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Speaker 2: How long have you known about it?

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Speaker 1: What do you know?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me you don't know anything what's going

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Speaker 2: And Dame is like what who?

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Speaker 2: What I don't know? And then it's the sound of

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Speaker 2: and boy Genius realizes, oh shit, the creatures are out. Meanwhile, Slightly,

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Speaker 1: Where I saw the people come invade the island. Please

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, curse.

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Speaker 1: Were enough.

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Speaker 4: We weren't.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we were absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: We were absolutely we were right from very early on

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Speaker 2: that he is a plant. Yes, okay, So Wendy, NIBBs

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Speaker 2: is this the official graveyard of the kids? Why did

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Speaker 3: But also why did I make it like a pet

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Speaker 3: cemetery or something like this is like inevitably gonna be back.

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Speaker 2: Why would you why would you do this, Why would

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Speaker 2: you actually put up a graveyard? Why wouldn't you just

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Speaker 2: confusing and the people working, I think this is and Dame,

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Speaker 2: and I was gonna say yeah, because author and.

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Speaker 1: Kids were holding when they were on the table are

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Speaker 3: So in this case, I guess it's weird choice, but

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Speaker 3: I do think it was them.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, yeah, you're you're probably right, certainly, Arthur

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Speaker 3: Seconds, I legit was screaming like this was so funny,

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Speaker 3: I love that. He was just like, I'll go make

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Speaker 2: when we return, we will welcome in Carmen and we

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Speaker 1: And we're back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Carmen.

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Speaker 3: Hello, thanks for having How are you doing common, I'm great.

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Speaker 5: I loved this episode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's talk some theory corner kursh I feel

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Speaker 2: like it has although it seems that he has other

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Speaker 2: that it's clear that you Tani had him and Morrow

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Speaker 2: Because the way Kersh is like, haha, finders keepers I

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Speaker 2: planted Utani can I Postmen has a beautiful theory.

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Speaker 1: Karmen was texting me about it this morning and I

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 5: While I love the idea that you Tani, Yeah, like

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Speaker 5: I love the idea. We've got this corporate espionage thing

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Speaker 5: I think Kersh wants his own autonomy and I think

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Speaker 5: he's finding I think he's manipulating these scenarios in a

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00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 5: way where he's doing things that he's finding loopholes around

436
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 5: his programming. He can't actually kill boy Cavalier, he can't

437
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 5: harm anyone, but he can let chaos just unleash and

438
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 5: do for him.

439
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Essentially, get to your pointing, Oh, sorry, God, I was.

440
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Just gonna say what you what you had said, It

441
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: was really interesting to me in your your text was

442
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: this idea of like the show has posed, like started

443
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: off with this idea of like these are since these

444
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: are hybrids, and this idea we all the interactions we've

445
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: had between Morrow and Kersh are sort of this back

446
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: and forth of like who's more paw powerful, like you know,

447
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: who's like most up to date, which I do you

448
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: think sort of flows into the utania of it all,

449
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: But then yeah, too, like if you bring it back

450
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: into this idea of like, Okay, well now we have

451
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: this new type of form and he's so insistent that

452
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: the kids are not humans, and to me that really

453
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: speaks to like, okay, he has he is using the

454
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: tools around him to manipulate and get out and in

455
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: order to find like his own his own freedom. The

456
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: thing that he tells Joe in the previous episode, like

457
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: that's not what your sister's gonna want to do, Like

458
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: she has no use for a family, She's gonna want

459
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: to go out and explore. I think he's talking about himself.

460
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: And then you had also brought up we've talked so

461
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: much about this idea of scorpion and power and who's

462
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: getting crushed and you text me it's word of You're

463
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: like curses the scorpion, and I was like, yeah, I'm

464
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: here for this. I'm gon s idea.

465
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: He's realizing that the next evolution, So what can he

466
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: do to.

467
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: Just if this is the case, how I'm kind of

468
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: bored and at this point like, really, it's gonna be

469
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: another the robot has Yeah, because he's here's my issue.

470
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: It does track with Alien which in which you know

471
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: Ash goes crazy, but he goes crazy because he's been

472
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: ordered to do something that goes against his programming. So

473
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: maybe there is a mirror thing here where Kersha's been

474
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: because of some like like utany like base programming is

475
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: being ordered to go against his master yes, and therefore

476
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: it is like going to do all this stuff. I

477
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: just hope it's not one of these like because why

478
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: we've talked about how inconsistent like the programming, the security,

479
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: all the things out on the tech are and this

480
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: is would be too Diosex machinough for me, that boy

481
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: genius who is a genius. We have to accept this

482
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: or like why do we even give a shit would

483
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: have a synth that could just decide one day that

484
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't want to do this anymore.

485
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: Well, this guy this true, that would fit in if as.

486
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: One of the most popular theories that I'm currently seeing

487
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 3: is that boy Genius is also a sin.

488
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't buy it, and why are we experimenting? Yeah,

489
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: why are we experimenting?

490
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: Then doesn't know? That's the generalized theory is that he

491
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: thinks he's human.

492
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 5: And I buy into that theory, you know myself, Like

493
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: I that is something that I have been analyzing and like, oh,

494
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: I can totally see him being a puppet and Adam

495
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 5: I and being the actual puppeteer. But for me, I

496
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: need that ie to I need his skull to get

497
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 5: fucked by that eye.

498
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, guys can't have let's talk about

499
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: that because a obviously we all want to see that

500
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: in the finale of But I have realized from this

501
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: episode because I'll tell you an ongoing issue I have

502
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: had in this series that I think is the issue

503
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: other people have had too, is I don't know if

504
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: the character of Hermit slash Joe has any juice, Like

505
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he has the juice to help her

506
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: stop something. I don't think he has the juice to

507
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: inspire her to do something. I think it was an

508
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: in character that maybe doesn't work, but I do predict

509
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: that I think boy genius wants to put the eye

510
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: in Joe. I think because he wants white guy who

511
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: is like who looks like him, who acts like him,

512
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: to be the person who is as smart as him.

513
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: And I think that Joe. I think that I may

514
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: kill Joe. That would be bleak, I would like it,

515
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: or as Beg is hoping it will go into Joe,

516
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: it goes into Beg.

517
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: I so well, wait, hold on, I want to say that, yeah,

518
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: Joe on Joe. I agree, Joe is is a little juiceless.

519
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: Although I was because I was wondering about this. I

520
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: do think that Joe exists as the stand in for

521
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: the audience to uh, as a tool for the audience

522
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: to realize that this is not his, this is not

523
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: a human, this is not a person. Is because his

524
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: constant like, oh, we got to do this, and you know,

525
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: you and me, and we got to get out of here,

526
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: and I'm taking care of my sister. No, your sister

527
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: is much more capable. First, of all, this entity is

528
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: much more capable than you, and it is not your sister.

529
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: So I think that is ultimately the reason Joe exists

530
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: in this story is for him and us to come

531
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: to a point where we realize that these are.

532
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Not humans and these are choice the character.

533
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we talked about this a little

534
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: bit last week, that it just falls a little bit black.

535
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: I like it might work more.

536
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: If he was also pushing his sister to see that

537
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: she's not a real human. And I feel like that's

538
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: sort of lacking in within Wendy, like us not knowing

539
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: like what she's communicating or like how she's like. We

540
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: just don't kind of spend enough time with either of

541
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: them to either get the fracturing and separation of them,

542
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: or does he like where are they still together? Because

543
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I think it's much more interesting if Wendy is not

544
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: that obviously the child that came in, but there's still

545
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: parts of her there. And I don't think we have

546
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: a very clear indication of like how much is robot,

547
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: how much is coated person who died? Okay, yeah, I

548
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: have a theory about this. Eye here we go. You guys,

549
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: remember when we were really obsessed with, Uh, what are

550
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: they doing with this guy just smoking these walls? He

551
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: calls from like a janitor or somebody who's like hyper replaceable,

552
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: And I said, like yeah, and just from a creep factor,

553
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: like the costuming of the mold guy is like creaky always.

554
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: It's like bulky. It's got like a pretty like standout

555
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: silhouette where you would notice it in a dark kind

556
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: of shadowy space and if you put that like Medie

557
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: Moody eye in it. I just think from a character

558
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: design perspective, it looks really cool. And you know, we

559
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: only have one episode left, like I don't know, and

560
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: then we're sad or whatever. Screw that. Just show me

561
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: another cool creature that goes out in control and that's

562
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: what I like. Boys, Cavalier's own humans kills him and

563
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: we can move on at this point.

564
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, there's one more creature. Oh there's no more

565
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 5: teature that we haven't seen an action yet, and that's

566
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: that weird plant like creature.

567
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: Oh.

568
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I really hope they're saving him to the finale. Something's

569
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: really cool and creepy. Yeah, he'd be slithering all around. Yeah,

570
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I think at this point, you know, we were touching

571
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: on it a little bit earlier we said a lot

572
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: of people would need to die in this episode, which

573
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: we were correct. We were too close to the end.

574
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: We have to do a big quelling and we got that.

575
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: I think for the ending we need fireworks so everybody's

576
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: on the island, their house together. The lines have been drawn.

577
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: I do think we need a U Tanni drop in

578
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: to either clarify she's been running both sides, and or

579
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: to be like the period at the end of this sentence,

580
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, it's prodigy is burned down. You

581
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Tani is taking us over. We got our guys back.

582
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: What wait are you guys hoping as we step into

583
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: the finale to see what questions do you need answered?

584
00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Most?

585
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: Yes, That's why I was gonna say, Jason, what do

586
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: you feel like is your biggest Like? How could what

587
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: what would happen that would make a finale so good

588
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: it makes the rest of the season better. That's what

589
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm interested in because we saw we saw reviews for

590
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: this whole season from critics who had had the whole season,

591
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: and they were saying nine out of ten, they were saying,

592
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: this is similar to and or level. I need to

593
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: know what happens.

594
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: Level and I don't think anything could happen and nothing

595
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: could happen in the finale that would lift a hand or.

596
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I thought I had that potential in the

597
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: first two episodes, but.

598
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: It did maybe yea out there are I mean there

599
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: are Listen, this is a great show. There are various

600
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: cacing problems throughout that keep it from being like illegally elite.

601
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: That said, I think we would need to I would

602
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: need to see something that would make me understand how

603
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: we could have a season two. I think that's those

604
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 2: the because at this point, I'm like, how could we

605
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: have a season? It does?

606
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to be a closed loop

607
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: at this point.

608
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how would it be possible to have one?

609
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: And you know, it has been kind of dropping hints

610
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: about how it could happen, how it could work. So

611
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: I guess I would need to see. I guess I

612
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: would need to see how, yeah, how that could happen.

613
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: I would need to I would need answers about like

614
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Whomorrow is working for, who Kersh is working for, what

615
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: Kirsh's motivations are, and how it is that the earth

616
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: that exists after this is not like just lousy with

617
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: various aliens running around to and fro, like how did

618
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: they stop this?

619
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: That's what I would know, That's.

620
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: What I need.

621
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: I would like a zoom out. I would like a

622
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: zoom out to see how this is going to impact

623
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: the world, How this is going to impact Prodigy, how

624
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: this is going to impact these corporations that we know

625
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: now are kind of shaping the world. And I will

626
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: say that was a big change, you know, for a

627
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: lot of like deep Alien readers who had read a

628
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: lot of the comics or I'd read a lot of

629
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 3: the books. This was a of the corporations that we

630
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: know who were currently active at the time. So I

631
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: want them to deliver on that because I'm all for

632
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: changing or shifting Cannon, but I always wanted to add

633
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: something new. So I want to kind of know, like Jason,

634
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 3: where we are, where we stand at the end, and

635
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: then that will tell me whether or not I'm really

636
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: hyped for a second season.

637
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Carmen, what do you need?

638
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: Finally, I have us.

639
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: I think I have simpler needs.

640
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: I would love for a lot.

641
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 5: Of these loops to be closed on, especially I remember

642
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: in the first three episodes of the season, I was

643
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: really obsessed with that mold scrubber and just like what

644
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: was going on.

645
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: With Yeah, why were they showing him so much?

646
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: I felt like he was heavily featured in the first

647
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: few episodes and then not later on. I am glad

648
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 5: that now those powers that Wendy had early on in

649
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 5: the season are starting to come back into play.

650
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

651
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: But I just need to know, like, yeah, like, is

652
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: that I.

653
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: Gonna get boy genius?

654
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

655
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Enough Eye, Yeah, there has really not been enough.

656
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: I have definitely been the breakout.

657
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him. I've been calling her, uh in

658
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: addition to iOpus Dolly because Dolly is the first sheep

659
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: that got called and I just feel like it's appropriate.

660
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Uh So this is our Eye, Dolly, our octopus iOpus.

661
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I really yeah, I would I need it. Seems like

662
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: the Eye has been scheming as well, and I need

663
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: all of the schemes to come together. Yes we have

664
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: heard that question, Yes we The question that kept coming

665
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: up throughout this episode is what have you done? And

666
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: this lack of like communication and understanding, there's like a

667
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: lot of betrayals in here.

668
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

669
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: I would like to see some aliens working together. I

670
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: would like to see y'all like teaming up because it's

671
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: clear they're so all in communication and all have the

672
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: same goals. I think they're all from the same planet. Yes,

673
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: do you think they're from the Predator planet? The more

674
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: I think about out it. Carmen and I were also

675
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: texting about some of those traits of Predator showing up

676
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: in the fly Alien definitely, and so I I think,

677
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, we know predators like to breed xenomorphs and

678
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: have their kids hunt them as like training exercises.

679
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: And also the movie is coming out so soon Predator exactly.

680
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: It feels like it was with a Utah exactly, and

681
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: so so I would really like to see like both

682
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: like how are these creatures working together and why do

683
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: they have like what's their end goal? Because it can't

684
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: just I mean maybe it is just escape, But is

685
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: that like let's get on a ship and get out

686
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: of here? Does that take over the plane?

687
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: Aliens?

688
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: And then I need me to get to safety. Someone

689
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: protects my son, my sweet don't kill prepared.

690
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: I would also say for me, and this is going

691
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: to be this is less what I want to see.

692
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: This is what I think is going to happen because

693
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: I understand how they telegraph these things because I watch

694
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: a lot of shows and movies that use these tropes,

695
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: and I do love them. Look, am I somebody who

696
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: loves Terminator too? And I love a child sidekick? Yes?

697
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Do.

698
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 3: I often enjoy the parts of shows like this where

699
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: people where, you know, like they think it's like an

700
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: arm pumping moment and everyone's rolling their eyes, but I'm

701
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 3: pumping my arm. Yes, I do believe at some point

702
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: in that serial, like in the finale, they are going

703
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: to have a moment with Wendy like running alongside the

704
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: Xenomorph like they are a team, and Alien fans around

705
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: the world they're gonna hate it, and depending on how

706
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: they do it, I'm probably gonna love it. But I'm interested.

707
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: I feel like that is inevitable, and I feel like

708
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: from the critiques I've been seeing of the show, I

709
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: don't think that's gonna enamor anyone more.

710
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 2: I will hate it. I would that all the way.

711
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: I think the reason that I mean, listen, the story

712
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: of Alien is always that you think you can control

713
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: nature and you can't exactly, and it would so it

714
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: would be a weirdly discordant note for me if it

715
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: was like, actually, we can make them pets, but this

716
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: is the next mine.

717
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: Okay, can I can? I can I pod? In theory, though,

718
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: these are two uncontrollable forces of nature and she is

719
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: not trying to control, simply to communicate with, and if

720
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: they see each other as being on the same side,

721
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: that's somewhat interesting to me. I agree that if it's

722
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: like this is my pet, and I like use it

723
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: like a Pokemon or like go gos, you know more

724
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: than I'm like.

725
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: Far been using it as a fucking Pokemon.

726
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: Which honestly I'm sure like Sniper friend like, she's just like, okay,

727
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: we're like six Clicks of the South. Can you just

728
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: take these guys out?

729
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, the idea, I do think the idea

730
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: that like we have that you know, these scientists have

731
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: like unwittingly created or engaged with, like two super predators,

732
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: one that they created and one that they got on

733
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: another planet. Yeah, which leads me further to even feel

734
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: more strongly that all these syths needs to be shut

735
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: off immediately. JA got them down, kids, You've been bamboozled

736
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: into believing their names. Just tore a guy's fucking jaw

737
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: because I hate that guy, But so you think that

738
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: she's not going to tear anybody else's jaw off the people.

739
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: I think people people and people people at people.

740
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: That is it is listen. If they are to be

741
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: if they are to know, if they are to be

742
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: allowed to continue to exist, they must be nerved. We

743
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: cannot have these child like ais that are capable of

744
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: tearing off people's limbs. Children should not have mentally balanced

745
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: and can also like hack into every computer and talk

746
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: to aliens like we we just like, can we at

747
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: least give them like human level strength and abilities.

748
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Before we're like, yeah, let run around. Yes, I think

749
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: that that is sensible. I will also say, I my

750
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: other gut feeling is that a good emotional arc for

751
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 3: Wendy and his animal would be if the xenomorph killed Joe,

752
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: like because that is a reality. Like, I don't think

753
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: kill him, kill him.

754
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: I did almost kill him.

755
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: She has to and now it's just seen him shot

756
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: her right like now he I think that she has

757
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: to realize there is a human cost that she can't

758
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 3: comprehend having, and I think it should be Joe. Sorry,

759
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: Alex Lotha, I love it.

760
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: It's got to be Joe I also agree that it

761
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: should be Joe, that it should like incapacitate him and

762
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: try to drag him to the eggs.

763
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: I think I think most interesting is if Wendy takes

764
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: out Joe.

765
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: I would.

766
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing.

767
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Left about their relationship. It's like we're we're not on

768
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: the same page. You willfully took out Nibs, which to

769
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: her is like, that's my younger sibling, like I ushered

770
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: her into this space. That's nuts. You're not listening to me.

771
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: You don't hear me. I identify more with the alien creature.

772
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if they team up, that can work,

773
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: so long as she turns into one of them and

774
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: she's fully on their side and she's like, no, Joe,

775
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: you gotta go. That to me makes Any twenty much

776
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: more interesting and it gives us a good jumping off

777
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: point for season two.

778
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

779
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the I just I'm interested in what

780
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: an alien's motivation besides like reproduce is yes, and I

781
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: think that's also a dangerous thing for this. I agree

782
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: if they do.

783
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 3: This is the thing I think that you. I think

784
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: this is as we were talking about all of this,

785
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: and we are talking about you know, the sense and hybrids,

786
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: and we've had so much fun covering the show, and

787
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: early on I really thought it was a contender for

788
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: Show of the year. First two episodes I just thought

789
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: was so fantastic. But I will say I think all

790
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: critique of where we are at and where the show

791
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: is is fair because this isn't just a spin off

792
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: of a thing or a you know, a reboot of

793
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: a thing. It is also like nowadays, we are adding law,

794
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: we are adding context, we are adding you know, retroactive history.

795
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: And one thing I will say that most other shows

796
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: that do this do not have to contend with is

797
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: like hr Geiger's xenomorph as it exists in the first

798
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: Alien movie. You know, with that Ridley Scott perceived and

799
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: the way that the two of them worked together, it

800
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: was so unknowable and terrifying that that is why Alien

801
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: is good. And I think that as much as I

802
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: love the broadening and I love this, I do think

803
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: like to have Wendy able to control like a Pokemon,

804
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: it could it takes away some of the fear.

805
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: I agree, I completely agree. I hope that, I really

806
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: hope that what happens at the end of this is

807
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: that it doesn't she loses quote unquote control of it

808
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: if she ever had it, Because I do think that

809
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: ultimately the alien exists to implant its eggs in mammals,

810
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: and it wants to do that, and it's not going

811
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: to do that the planet. Yeah, and I think and

812
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: I think the other you know, Listen, the lesson that

813
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: humans are going to take away from this entire debacle

814
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: is that we almost did it. We almost figured out

815
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: way to way to control them, right, a couple of tweaks,

816
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: a couple of tweaks in the algorithm, or a couple

817
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: of tweaks to the synth hybrid algorithm. We're just firmer

818
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: controls where it doesn't, has less free will, right, and

819
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: is more clear about how it's how it's communicating with

820
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: the alien, so we can learn how to do it.

821
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: And we can do it.

822
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: Like, well, that can't be the takeaway.

823
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: I have to say. I kind of think that maybe

824
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: the best finale actually is like the Hubris of Whale

825
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: and Utani as a corporation or something. You see them

826
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: at the end basically just being like, we've got the

827
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: next step in human evolution and it's this, and we're

828
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: gonna send a ship in to get it and blah

829
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: blah blah and kind of it is. And then you know,

830
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: you do a zoom away of the island and it's

831
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: just all the dead bodies being fucking like pulled off

832
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: the island like that hubris of humanity. Because, like Jason,

833
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: I think you summed it up so well. The only

834
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: thing that anyone's gonna take from this is we almost

835
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: did it. And that is actually a pretty powerful message

836
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: of the show, is like, yeah, you got to go

837
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: on all these adventures, but guess what, these motherfuckers are dead,

838
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: and it's just gonna continue to be a cycle of Yeah.

839
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean there's so many there's so many animals on

840
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: this island, Like this place is going to be full

841
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: of aliens like three days.

842
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be crazy. You know what. I'm not

843
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: gonna lie that. Jason was cracking when you mentioned this

844
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: a minute ago. Was thinking about one of my favorite

845
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: recent tweets where you were kind of talking about the

846
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: pokemon of it all. I think a lot about it

847
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: was it was like a tweet somebody did that was

848
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: like the Jurassic World movies are so funny to me

849
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 3: because it's just about white people who think they could

850
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: make dinosaurs their pets, you know, and everyone like Chris

851
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: Chris Prat's just going around like put giving it the

852
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: hand and the rat. And I think that there is

853
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: something kind of funny and subversive if the show is

854
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: playing on those tropes and kind of reveals in the

855
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: finale that that even if you are a hybrid, you

856
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: we saw it killed it killed Isaac, like they killed

857
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: my boy. They killed them. No problem food.

858
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's no food.

859
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: That's their food, Like, that's not they You spent six

860
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: billion dollars on it, but for them, it's like a

861
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: fry up at the local cafe, like two pounds. They

862
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: don't care. Like so I think from this conversation, I

863
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: would be very in trusted to see how they play

864
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: with maybe our expectations of what we think we're gonna

865
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: get and what they actually do, and kind of whether

866
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: or not that Hubris is going to be at the

867
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: heart of it, because I think that's very could be

868
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: very fun and Wendy.

869
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: I think it's the Hubris of Wendy. I'm waiting to

870
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: see if that, uh, if anything pays off of that,

871
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: because I think I'm saying a little overly familiar, like yeah,

872
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: I've got this, I've got this alien on lock like

873
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: he follows me.

874
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: She's like I know everything, Like yeah, exactly, I'm the oldest,

875
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's really accurate. Okay, wait, guys,

876
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: if there is a winner, if we if we get

877
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: to the end of episode eight and there is a conclusive,

878
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: I need it to be the Eye.

879
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know.

880
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: I was gonna say this.

881
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for the kids. I know that that's the

882
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: unpower sweet.

883
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: I also love a good kid.

884
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Because we know a season two is coming, I'm rooting

885
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: for kersh to him, just because I've been really enjoying

886
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: his journey.

887
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: I will see.

888
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: It's a little too in the background for me. I

889
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: wish that they had beefed up.

890
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: I agree, he's a bit too.

891
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little too trophy, But I thought we

892
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: were like the evil villain speech when he like, you

893
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: have a whole army at your back, you're finding fronting

894
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: your enemy, and it felt good like it, But then

895
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: that was like is that it like where it was incompletely?

896
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: It was a little weird too, for like all the

897
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: security guys to just be like, Okay, we're following Kersh

898
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: to do what's.

899
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Just to understand this should have been the reveal of like,

900
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: this just cursed. This is what he'd been doing in

901
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: the background the whole time here and then tomorrow to

902
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: be our winner in the next season.

903
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: Here is my hope, and I hope that the Eye

904
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: gets into Boy Genius. It convinces Adam and Kersh to

905
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: keep working hard.

906
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: Now.

907
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna wear sunglasses or some thankful all the time now,

908
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: and it's going to just because obviously, I think it

909
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: would be a fucking disaster for the stock price if

910
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: it was revealed that Boy Genius was either synse or

911
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: that Adam was pulling strings or like any of these

912
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: things don't really work for me because it's like, how

913
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: do you have a company after this? I think what

914
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: they will I think what the workaround will be. Okay,

915
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: the Eye is now our CEO, and we'll just like

916
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 2: let that.

917
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 6: I think honestly, and that, honestly would actually be a

918
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 6: pretty deep sting podcast.

919
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, start wearing that's what we'll know.

920
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: We'll be like everyone is like it would be really

921
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: funny because Jason's just like really happy they got into

922
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: the pan analogy. But now the Eye is just like

923
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: doing super super super super fucked up and just like, well,

924
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: thank god he's not reading Pea Pan anymore, like he's

925
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: talking about famous eyes throughout history. But yeah, I would

926
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 3: I mean I would love that because it would be

927
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: a pretty deep statement on what CEOs are willing to

928
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 3: put up with from execs to keep things going. So yeah,

929
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. Well, so we should

930
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: make an extra vision I T shirt. I feel like

931
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: we've been supporting that eye for the whole time.

932
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Listen, the eye has been through hell and I just

933
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: love the Eye to get out of that little container. YEA,

934
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: all right, extra vision, We're heading back to school as

935
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: we cover the first whole episodes of the next season

936
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 2: of jen V and the new Jordan Peele produce sports

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00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: horror movie Him. That's it for this episode. Extra thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us, guys. Hey x ray Vision is hosted

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Speaker 2: by Jason sept Young and Rosie Knight and is a

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Speaker 2: production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman.

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00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.

943
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay wack A.

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Speaker 2: Theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme songs

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Speaker 2: by Aaron Kaufman.

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