WEBVTT - There's Two Sides of Fame 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:43.960 He with U. If you watch Coffee Time to Baby, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.360 you know the name flame, my role also known as 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.000 my role Flame. Come in with last and come in 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.519 with then love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.960 you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.279 now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.960 know she raped shot towns on speaking to the ground 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.760 a second. We're gonna last to cut of the kicking 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.440 and at the end we leave it, which is a 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.000 lifty spirits make you want to revisit. So your first 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.480 take a listen, careful for your slip, all folks that 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.280 we take it good. No kiss, do what you doin 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.520 No kiss, do what you do can't no kiss? Do 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:42.040 what I do with flame? Flame that bring it in. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.320 We got some ship to talk about. Good, good afternoon, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.880 good morning, good evening, good somewhere. I don't the way 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.360 you had come on the in flamets, Come on, come on, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.000 come onut in the room. And I'm on time today. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.920 That's because I'm gonna make up all. I'm looking like 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.000 her and him right about there, y'all. I'm telling you 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:04.040 I'm cold. That's why I got on my my onesie. Y'all. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.760 Know what I look like on the other side. Hell, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.200 I'm still battling this damn code. It's almost over though, Hello, welcome, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.880 Come on in, y'all. Okay, let me change glasses because 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.120 I can't see not naithing, not nowthing and flame MAT's. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.720 I'm really depending on you all today because I am 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.200 not at one hundred. But um, I know my flame 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.560 MAT's will pick up the slack since my co host 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.640 can't be here today. Prayers for my co host Lauren 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.560 Hogan on the loss of her beautiful mom, Miss Marsha, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.960 who was one of the who was a flame man 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.320 and always gave her gave us her input and let 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.600 us know how this and that. Hey, Frankie, So we 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.560 appreciate Miss Marsha, and uh, prayers to my co host Lauren. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.120 But Kendall is here and I'm here, and y'all coming 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.920 on there because we got some stuff to talk about. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.920 You see, I ain't changed, as you see. I got 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.520 on the same globe, but I put on some her 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.959 because you know, I was trying to distract, Like down 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.960 Donald Trump, I'm distracting. I'm distracting ship. So we're gonna 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.280 have topics today. We're talking about a lot. So much 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.200 has happened in a week. So much has happened in 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:10.880 a week talking about the football players and um the 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.480 Ritten House case. Hey, gossiping helpers, We're gonna talk about 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.000 the mod Aubrey case. We're gonna cover a lot of bases. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.919 And it's three football players in the news that we 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.280 must talk about. One is Henry Rugs. The third which 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.880 is the young man from the He was a Vegas 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:30.440 Raider and two years old just signed a major contract 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:35.320 with the Raiders. Out joy rads at top speed, crazy 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.360 with a gunn the car. They found liquor on them 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.000 and Chad hed hit this woman and kill her and 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.000 her dog. And you know how white folks he is 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.839 about their dogs, child, They're gonna be one bad about 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.840 the damn dog than he is anything else. And she 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.040 was not even a white woman. She was an immigrant 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.160 who was waiting to get her documentation to become a 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.640 legalized citizen. But you know how white folks is about 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.800 their dogs. Baby. They got car insurance, life insurance, burial 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:02.960 insurance parties, and yeah, graduations, they do all that. And 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.040 I'm saying it jokingly, but they are very overprotective about 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.000 their dogs. Thank you. Guys, come on in, come on in. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.520 But you know what, we gotta talk about it, and 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.560 we gotta keep it moving. It is. It was very tragic, 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.760 and the girlfriend was in the car with him. Thank 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.839 god that him and her were both spared. But what 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.040 was he spared? That was a traumatic experience. And this 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.120 is a voting year and he's twenty two years old, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.479 and the Raiders dropped him the same night. What no, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.240 we're gonna work with you, and wo woo they dropped 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.880 him the exact same night. They dropped him the same night. Terrible. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.080 Uh huh, Right, they told call and Colin Kaepernick up. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.080 But here's the thing about that one. We're gonna talk 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.400 about that, and then we're gonna bring up the other 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.080 football players, Aaron Rodgers. Who what did he lie or 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.000 was it a play on words? I'm asking y'all did 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.920 he lie because he said I'm I'm he said I'm immunized. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.200 He didn't say vaccinated. He says I'm immunized. But then 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.360 he tested positive and play and that was the only 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.719 reason they found out because he tested positive and then 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.479 they had to go into the records to see that 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.920 he wasn't vaccinated. And but Kyrie Irvin, who said, I 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.039 ain't taking it to hell with you the league go 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.960 to hell than everybody else. Y'all been handing him his ass. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:17.080 But the difference is this color and this color I 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.520 said it was it a play on words. It's very scary. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.320 You like my hair? Okay, thank you? I want to 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.520 put on some big hair. Uh so y'all can be 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.440 distracted from my ones because y'all ain't get no titties 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.640 and nothing today. I'm co kinder, got hits. Whatever else 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.640 I got on man Market, Mark said was to play 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.960 on words. These people are are saviors, they are human, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.160 well they are. They're protesting here in California and everything 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.680 because they they're fighting. You know, don't mandate nothing. Don't 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.119 tell me what I need to put in my body. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.479 It is getting very scary and very out of hand, y'all. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.840 Uh huh katri sa he led, Oh I don't want 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.000 to think that, he led. The difference is that Aaron 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:58.840 Rodgers pretending to get the jam, while Curry outright declined it, well, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.640 you know, and isn't that right? But that's what they 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.200 The world is not coming to that. They baby, they 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.640 want you to do what they want you to do. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.800 So come on in and talk about it with me, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.160 y'all because I told you flamous, I'm depending on y'all 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.680 today to come on with it. So before we get 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.680 to the other stuff, let's stay with these football players, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.920 because we got to get to Travis Scott and all 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.680 of young people who lost their laughs. Good God, babies, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.440 good good, good morning, get out, good morning, good afternoon, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.840 good evening, good day, good something somewhere, because it's morning somewhere, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.800 it's evening somewhere, and it's afternoon somewhere. So to ask 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:37.600 you your question, I don't think he lied. I no, no, no, no, no, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.280 that wasn't it. They asked him had he had the 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.960 vaccine and he said, I'm immunized. Now that's what I'm saying. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.159 Is that a play on words? Or I agree with Mark? 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:52.120 Mark said, I agree. Look, I want to give him, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.279 um the benefit of the doubt, but um, they gave 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.360 Carrie Urban a hard time because he was like, I 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.000 just don't want to take it. But I think the 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.960 issue that is because Kyrie Irving is in New York 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.240 and New York state is mandated, and just like here, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.120 our state mandated it, so it may not be that 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.360 the NBA is mandating it, but the state is mandating. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.720 So I mean, it's a it's a hard it's a 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.400 hard thing that we're dealing with right now. To be honest, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.200 it shouldn't it shouldn't have to be mandate. You should 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.800 be able to do what you want, get what you want, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.880 and however you want to get it. But it's the 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.520 world that we're living in right now. Uh huh. You know, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.320 it's just I was just sitting here talking to Kendall 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.080 about the whole thing, and I was like, they're down 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.400 here protesting in California big time, that they don't want 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.760 to do it, and I hope this does not cause 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.160 a war in our country. I said, a war because 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 some people want to and some people don't, and the 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.080 fact that they're feeling feeling forced is probably the problem. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.320 I don't like to be forced to do something, but 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.360 like some of us, we had to do it because 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.120 of our places of appointment, and um, you gotta support 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.880 your family. Now, some people are able not to do it, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.040 and they're still sports your family. I don't. I don't 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.640 like I think you're taking you're taking away my rights, 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.640 cheat and we should always have a right to cheat. Well, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.360 you know what, let's get then out of me. What 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.000 was that light one out? You know what, Cassie I I. Well, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.560 let's get off of that. Let's get back to the 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.760 twenty two year old football player. His name was Henry 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.280 Ruggs Jr. I know Henry Ruggs the third because he 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.440 was the third one two years old driving that luxury 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.800 card at the signing a major deal with the UH 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.199 with the Vegas Raiders and driving that card at a 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.559 hundred and fifty six miles an hour and kill that 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.880 woman at ADL. Now him and the girlfriend didn't die. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.200 I think he was spared because um, he's gonna he's 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.200 paying the price now just thinking about that. What he did? 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.640 I mean you should? I mean, come on, well, here's 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.600 the thing, and we talked about this on coffee time 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.199 earlier this week. You you take these boys for rags 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.679 to riches overnight. You don't surround them with a team 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.800 to teach them how to end the money and how 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.040 to handle that fame. Fame is poison. What you don't know. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.959 You think it's beautiful on one side, there's two sides 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.880 to fame, and a lot of people ain't ready to 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.480 handle the other side. And he's twenty two. He young. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.959 They needed a team around him. And when they're making 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.600 that much money and he is the bread winner for 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.559 so many people, nobody was going to tell him no. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.719 Nobody was gonna tell him no. I know, but he 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.720 still couldn't use some comments two years old and filthy. Rich. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 Ain't no common sense, Cancie, ain't no common sense. I'm rich. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:28.880 I can do what the funk I want to do. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.360 That's the common sense. Come on, Dawn, jump in here, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.520 because you're making all these things. The girl you're doing 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.120 all this on you got I was one of two. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.560 I was one of two with a nineteen eighty nine 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:49.640 che You could me having that kind of money. I 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:54.640 agree with everything you said. Is seeing they setting my 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.960 children up for I'm telling you, and it's a voting you, Cansie. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.880 And he's twenty two years old, and the Raiders d 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.360 wrapped him the same night. They didn't wait, they dropped 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.120 him the same night. It's time, it's you know, it's see. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.400 This is when the older football players that are retiring 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.680 you need to come and talk to the younger ones. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.240 This is when they need to grab and said, look 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.360 this is what the deal is. And if you don't, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.920 if you don't do what by the play by the rules, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.840 you don't do what you're supposed to do. If you 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.439 don't handle your money the way you're supposed to be, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.199 Hanna live, you're gonna be broken. You're gonna be broken, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.680 and you're gonna be a Haskan. Okay, you you you 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.800 you can't get They do this to our kids because, 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.800 like you said, they know they come from broken some 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.839 of them come from broken homes. They have the bread 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.440 one as other families. What they want to do is 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.840 get their mother a house. All all black, young black boys, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.560 that's they dream. I want to buy my mama house. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.960 Most of the time the father is not in the picture. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.120 If he is, he has moved on with another family. Okay, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:11:00.720 so you you got to train these young men that, look, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.319 you have your whole life ahead of you. But if 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.960 you're gonna allow this money to ruin you, that's what 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.120 exactly it's going to do. And look like I don't 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.560 agree with that, just because of the climate that we're in. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.920 He he knew he was too drunk to hop in 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.800 that car, and he could have just called an uber. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.120 He could have called a lift. Somebody could have rolled him, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.839 but he trolled to hop in the car and drive 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.160 under the extreme influence. Not just a little bit of influence, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.240 but he was under the extreme influence. And I believe 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.760 that he was spared so that he it could teach 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.320 less And it's sad that somebody had to path away 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.360 because of it. But hold on, hold on that we 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.560 should get drive in the car under this right. But okay, 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.719 let's let's take look out of the picture. You were 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.040 twinty two. I was twenty two. What did you do 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.000 that could have caused you to go to jail? I 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.880 did the same thing, but I drew really slow. I 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.079 had the music blasting and had the windows open, and 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.280 I made it home. But when I shouldn't have did it, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.240 but I still didn't say. But you also were not 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.280 a millionaire and had just gotten signed by Major. You 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.800 were not a millionaire. He just got signed by a Major. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.200 Deal with the about Las Vegas Raiders, the different you, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.719 you can't compare. It's like comparing apples to oranges. There 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.520 is no comparison, Cassie, because which is why I love 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.199 the show Survivor's Remorse so much, because to Sheina Arnold 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.480 who played they went from rags to riches. But because 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.719 she had such a strong bass as the woman and 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.080 the monarchy in that family, she trained her son not 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.920 to make mistakes. And he made mistakes. And it's SI 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.520 made plenty mistakes. But what it was is that they 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.600 had somebody watching over them. They had the uncle, and 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.240 they had family member. This young man didn't have nobody 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.040 over him to tell and that boy still be on 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.200 survivor's remorse to show he still respected his mother. I 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.800 don't know the situation with this young man Henry Silks Jr. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.400 But Henry Sulks, the third, Henry Ruggs. But I can 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.160 only imagine that if I'm the red one and I'm 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.160 making all the money. You know, whoever make all the money, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.240 run everything everything. It's just like like the young lady 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.760 the track star thing. You know, look at the mistake 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.640 that calls her. Yeah, of course she knew better, but 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.000 we don't know what she was dealing with. But look 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.840 what it cost her, right, you know it cost her. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:10.880 We have to start talking to our young kids, young 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.480 men and women. We need to get back to them 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:18.480 and say, hey, I get it, but don't don't one 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.800 night he was a hugment from rag to Richards within 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:26.040 twelve hours hours. That was just not And the girlfriend 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.120 was in the car with him and told him, apparent 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.400 according to the news media, she told him, and he 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.400 had a gun in the car and he was drinking, so, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.080 you know, And I feel so bad for the people 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.439 who did. I feel bad for him partially because life 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.600 is choices. Life is choices. And who has to say 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.720 he has a he has a college education. Who's to 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.120 say he finished college. He may have not finished, you know. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.200 And now he has this felony on top of him. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.360 A voting year, it's a voting year. The football league 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.719 dropped him. They're gonna slam him. I'm sorry to say that, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.080 they're gonna slam example out of him exactly. So we 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.560 need to start teaching. We need to get back to 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.320 where our grandmama's and grandfathers and our uncles and our 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.839 aunts taught us how to act when we were at 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.760 that age. We may not have listened totally, but something 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.880 in your mind said, okay, all right, let me let 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.200 me pull back. But of course we weren't millionnaires either. Hello, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.760 I ain't never been I ain't never had that title. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.480 But I'm working on it, but let me tell you 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.400 something you could like, I tell you, you you couldn't tell 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.560 me a damn thing in the white my mom and 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:38.560 dad at bart feet. What was I doing? Oh? I 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.200 can't tell you because if I tell you, they might 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.160 come back and arrest me. I'm not gonna tell your ship. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.960 I'm not telling you, So don I want to ask 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.800 you your opinion on um on the two football players, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.040 Aaron Rodgers the one, Now, do you think that was 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.880 a play on words or do you think he lied? 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.120 And Kyrie Irber who's still in his ground and say, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.880 I'm not taking it take me off the games. I 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.320 ain't taking it. Well, I think if if if the uh, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.560 if Kyrie Irvin was white, we wouldn't be sitting there 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:11.200 having this conversation. Period. It wouldn't matter if it was 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.760 if it, it wouldn't matter if it was ice hockey. Well, 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.480 it ain't that many of us in ice hockey, so 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:22.800 don't he Well it us time. And I'm not dismissing you, Cassie. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.880 Don't get me wrong. I'm not dismissing you or what 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.720 you're saying, because I understand that. But if if Tyrie 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.520 was black, was white. I'm sorry, and and just like 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.120 Aaron Rodgers, we wouldn't hear nothing about it, just like 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.560 we didn't hear nothing about Aaron Rockets not taking the faccine. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.480 And he only got busted because he tested positive, which 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.800 you can still have the va BEV actually and test positive. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.000 But then they dug into his records to realize that, oh, nigga, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.040 that ain't you said I'm immunaz. You didn't say, you know, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.720 so the way he said he was immuniz made you 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.680 think that he was. He was fully bad. He lied. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.320 You know, the disparency in uh uh in this country 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.640 is just laughable sometimes, you know, it's it's it's it's 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.840 unsettling to me that blatantly white people can get away. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.240 White privilege is beautiful at its best, but you can't 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.640 have a hint of chocolate inside of you because you 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.520 would get called down to the carpet every time. I 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.600 might get put an I G jail behind this, But 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.800 I truly believe that if you go to take a 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.640 test and if they ask you you, you should tell 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.880 them that you are, because I think they send something 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.680 else when you're not, when you say you're not X, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.440 especially after today because the man. They hit hard in 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.040 California today, maybe they ride it in the streets downtown. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.360 I ain't going down there. I told you when I 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.400 go home in August that uh when I went to 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.080 my doctor, they saw that I took let the nudge 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.200 practorian and I said, hey, I just want to let 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.520 you know that I did take the vaccine. She said, well, yeah, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.480 I see that you took it here in June uh eight. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.480 I said, no, ma'am, I took it. I took the 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.480 first half, made something, whatever it was. Then I'll take 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:07.080 the second half. So you're reporting wrong information. I'm fully 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.080 that vaccinating. So if they did it to me and 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.480 I caught it, how many other people they did it too? 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.280 And a report that ship to the news. Excuse my body, man, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.640 report to the news, to the media. We want the party, man, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:26.920 just laughing line. We wanted party. We want a double party. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.960 I'm just saying, you know, but but if he was right, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.880 if he was right, he would we wouldn't be sitting 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:37.919 here talking about it. Hey, Marky Marko, UM, I have 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.040 a different perspective on this. So I think this is 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.640 really going to open up the conversation. Is the how 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.800 important people's medical decisions. Oh that's don't do too much 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.040 cod because they're gonna block us. Hell not, no, I 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.040 get you, I'm gonna I'm gonna be careful. I think 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.800 when it comes to medicine though, I think this is 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.160 why it's important. He believes in a holistic medicine. Right now, 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.320 if you ask they, they will tell you that the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.560 deal the doctor of osteopathic medicine, they're the same thing. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.720 Their doctors, the ones a medical doctor ones Ado. He 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.480 will tell you he will not go see a d 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.159 O if his life was on the line because he 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.240 thinks the d o's are below medical doctors, even though 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.960 they both are physicians. Right now, this Aaron Rodgers. God, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.680 if you want to have a conversation about holistic medicine, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.720 they believe in something totally different. So in his mind, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.960 if he believes in practices holistic medicine, and if he 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.400 believes that he was immunized with whatever nasal spray he got, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.520 that's his business. Because do we go around Africa, that's 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.240 not his business. Stop, that's not his business. He works 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.040 on a team. He has to be responsible for everybody 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.359 else on his team. That is not that is not true. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.000 Mark I'm not. I can't give you a pass on 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.760 that player because he should have been more responsible. He 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.680 could have killed somebody, right, But that's the thing. They're 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.240 not requires to get vaccinated. They are required to get vaccinated. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.000 The football league is making requestion. And then you get religion. Yeah, 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.920 rod Jack d is flatant adam. So they're not. They're 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.600 not required to get back to They have to either 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.000 get vaccinated or they have to undergo testing weekly. They 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.199 have those they have those options. So well, let me 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.919 tell you something. His was not a play on words. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.560 And I hear what you're saying, but by him saying 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.800 that he was immunized and lying, he put his entire 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.920 team in trouble. He did, and everybody else around him, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.359 not just the team, the water boys, the coaches, the 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.440 people who rub you out and ship everybody, everybody he 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.560 came in contact with. And he had to wear his 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.800 mask all the time and they said he didn't. So 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.399 the difference to me, and I ain't making anything about 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.160 Aaron Rodgers how he did it. I'm saying that Kyrie 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.640 Irvan the black Man stood on his principle and say 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.159 I ain't taking that ship. Y'all suspend in himpotent games. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.320 But this one lied and put everybody's life in jeopardy. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:47.760 And the football season is almost over with, you believe. 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.920 And I've said this personally on your before, from a 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.879 personal first STARTID I you know I will not I 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.600 will make a decision when it's right for me. But 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.840 in the meantime, whatever consequences are a result of me 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.280 not getting DOC, I have to accept them. I can't 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.320 complain about. So I agreed, like I respected Kyrie because 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.919 Kyrie said I'm not getting vaccine and he knew that 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.240 was millions of dollars on the line and he's stuck 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.120 with his own conscious and said I'm not doing it. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.720 So I respect that. And I do think Aaron Rodgers 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.960 would have been more tasteful if he would have yes, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:22.360 said hey, I am immunionized in my productive with melist edicine. However, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.359 I have not received an actual COVID vaccine. Right that 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.040 would have been different because he should have. It's got 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:34.640 fair there they go to get you, well, marky Mark, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:40.240 come on back where you at? Yeah, so that's all 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:41.960 I say. I do agree. I see both points, but 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.760 I do think the bearer conversation will eventually come to 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.760 uh people's choice with medicine, because do we go up 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.560 asking I've talked about this for I said, abortions and 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.280 that's healthful, that's someone's her personal health decision, right. Same 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.440 thing with vaccines, and we know who was vaccinated on 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.680 him and who's not because we've said it and we've 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.680 still we've laid our ground. But do we go out 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:10.720 look who look who's It's the same thing. I don't 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.760 the reason I can't be Aaron Rodgers up, uh what happens? 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.480 I just I just think it's I I think we're 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.919 overly involved in people's business. I get that he's a 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.040