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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally bet Now Live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: I looks you live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Rons Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great Z. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we had some developments over the night in regard to

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Speaker 3: rookie defensive tackle Mike Hall Junior arrested this morning an

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Speaker 3: alleged domestic disturbance in Avon involving his girlfriend. The Browns

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Speaker 3: have released this statement duct disease.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we are aware of the incident involving Mike Hall

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Speaker 4: Junior last night. Mike and his representatives have been in

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Speaker 4: touch with the appropriate authorities. We are in the process

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Speaker 4: of gathering more information and we'll have no further comment

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Speaker 4: at the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not great.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: And anytime you're you're in a position when you're when

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Speaker 3: you're talking about domestic disturbance, there's you want all of

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Speaker 3: the facts to come out and and the facts will

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Speaker 3: come out and then then you'll get some real truth

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Speaker 3: on it. Needless to say, though, not something that you

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Speaker 3: would want to be dealing with here on a Tuesday

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Speaker 3: in the middle of camp. But that is the extent

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Speaker 3: of it certain terms of our dialogue, my friend, yes

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Speaker 3: is acknowledge that it's taken place and get you the statement,

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Speaker 3: and that's where you stand with it on that. On

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Speaker 3: that front, anything happens, we'll keep you updated and abreast

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Speaker 3: of those situations. Yesterday's practice was the last practice before

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Speaker 3: today's break, and then you're into vikings Wednesday. Pretty pretty

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Speaker 3: fun practice by the time. By the time I took

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Speaker 3: off around three o'clock, I'm reading in my notes here

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Speaker 3: that you went for a jog yesterday during Did you

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Speaker 3: do do a lope around the facility a little bit? No?

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Speaker 5: Here it is got some video. This is after practice.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, look at you.

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Speaker 5: Getting our conditioning in Me and Joe Hayden there and so.

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Speaker 2: It looks like you're working up a sweat.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Pace.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something right now, okay, So that's

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Speaker 4: just you're seeing one thing on repeat.

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Speaker 2: So we went.

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Speaker 5: We did two hundred and seventy yards. We went fifty and.

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Speaker 4: Back, forty five and back, and then forty and back

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Speaker 4: and that's what the quarterbacks and running backs all did

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Speaker 4: after practice. Now it looked like I was carrying a football, sure,

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Speaker 4: and to the knowing eye, that's all it would appear

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Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 2: Sure, a football, which, as we know, does not weigh

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Speaker 2: very much normally.

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Speaker 3: We have one in here. I don't even know where

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Speaker 3: the all is.

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Speaker 4: Was a lead football. Weighed football approximately fifty pounds.

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Speaker 3: There's the football. We gonna have the all in here. No,

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Speaker 3: that's that's just a ball. No, so you were carrying

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Speaker 3: it was a lead football, basically. And are we to

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Speaker 3: believe that it's fifty?

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Speaker 2: The number I was sold around fifty? He went to

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Speaker 3: I bet they did.

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Speaker 2: They didn't pick it up, It didn't, It did not.

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Speaker 2: What was the So it's a football stuffed with heavy stuff?

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Speaker 5: What's it?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: What is it made for? What is the purpose of it?

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Speaker 3: That is to carry it while running?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And so, like I mean, you were a running backs

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Speaker 3: name in the program, Darnell Jefferson. Remember he had fling

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Speaker 3: and so he had to run around with the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's through school, through school.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't lose that ball.

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Speaker 3: Don't lose that ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, this is this is much more substantial than that,

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Speaker 4: so you had to like switch arms pretty much each

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Speaker 4: and pop this in the other arm there. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was good, and professional athletes in their twenties were

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Speaker 4: very tired by the end of it. Now I wanted

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Speaker 4: to keep going, but then we had to do train

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Speaker 2: All the way town five down.

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Speaker 4: So wow, Joe and I had done basically half I

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Speaker 4: believe when I did the whole the final tally, I

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Speaker 4: we had done basically half of that.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, I was already to keep rolling.

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Speaker 3: So the Warrior run, baby, Yeah, that's a lot of it. Man,

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Speaker 3: after a full day of practice, then you got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I did not have the full day of practice, but.

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Speaker 3: You're also not a man in your twenties and a

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Speaker 3: professional athlete. No, yeah, a large b and we take it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was listen. That was a graceful stride that I

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Speaker 3: had on display. The I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 3: That looked fine. That looked more than fine. It's good

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Speaker 3: to see Joe out there loping around as well. You

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Speaker 3: know what.

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Speaker 5: I had a great week with him, had a great

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Speaker 5: week with him.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: There are certain people in the world that just always

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Speaker 4: have positivity kind of exuding from their beings.

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Speaker 3: I sit next to one for two hours from one

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Speaker 3: to three every day. Same just pure joy. I'm not

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Speaker 3: always pure joy. You're almost always pure joy pretty much.

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Speaker 3: I try most part.

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Speaker 5: Uh, Joe, Joe Hyden is also pretty much a pure

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Speaker 5: joy guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun. So we had we had a blast

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Speaker 4: agree with that. Yeah, we had the jog and it

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Speaker 4: was funny. He was like after we had He's like,

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Speaker 4: yeah that we're good.

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Speaker 3: We're He's like, we're good.

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Speaker 4: At the miche listen, I'm not going to fight you

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Speaker 4: on it. I'm not going to fight you on it

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the thing with those those guys and we you

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Speaker 3: Chris long talking about this with Jason Kelce uh this morning,

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Speaker 3: where like Jason Kelsey when he initially retired, was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to work out, and his wife's like, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: you are. You're gonna work out at least three or

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Speaker 3: there's something that happens when you do that that you

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Speaker 3: need to release. And if you don't release it, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna keep it all in. I can't have it. So

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Speaker 3: like he's like, so because that he's been working that

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Speaker 3: that keep going because it's all you've known YEP, is

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Speaker 3: so all of a sudden not you don't know what

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Speaker 3: the way you were, and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 3: adjust your diet like the Hoff did, you go from

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Speaker 3: what the Hoff used to look like to what he

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Speaker 5: And that's what Jason Kelsey's trying to do.

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Speaker 4: On their pott, I used to see when they had

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Speaker 4: pot and he was asking Arnold. He's like, look, I

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Speaker 4: want to drop about, you know, forty pounds, but I

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Speaker 4: still want to be yeah strong.

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Speaker 2: And so they were talking about how to do it

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Speaker 2: pretty easy.

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Speaker 3: I would think you steal work the way that you've

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Speaker 3: been working and just eat better, eat better, healthier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're.

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Speaker 3: Good and you get like a lot of those guys

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Speaker 4: I mean, those guys put down Lazangni after Lazangni after Lazani,

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Speaker 4: and it's like for them eating a salad. But when

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Speaker 4: its toll. And so you see a former NFL players

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Speaker 4: typically go very few of them look the same. Correct,

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Speaker 4: there you go one of two directions. Now, Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 4: at the house party looked exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: To my he looked exactly the same. It looked like

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Speaker 3: he could play tomorrow and dominate and dominate. He looked

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Speaker 3: the exact same. Looked like time had not touched him. No,

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Speaker 3: he hasn't played in a long time. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 3: looked like he could go right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well that's I look, I'm proud of you. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: forgetting that work in and getting the jog in and

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Speaker 3: getting it in there with Joe. We we will have

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Speaker 3: the Vikings here on Wednesday, Viking Heads coach Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 3: announcing that JJ McCarthy, the first round pick out of Michigan,

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Speaker 3: the quarterback, he had knee soreness. He did not participate

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Speaker 3: He will not be participating.

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Speaker 2: So Schefter is now saying it's torn meniscus. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it looks like it toa be Sam Darnold

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Speaker 3: to start the season for them. I was looking forward

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Speaker 3: to seeing him, seeing him play, because too, he was

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Speaker 3: a very difficult evaluation coming out of the draft from

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Speaker 3: the standpoint of there were games like the Penn State

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Speaker 3: game where they just didn't have him throw the ball

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Speaker 3: at all, and yet there were games like the last

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Speaker 3: the National Championship Game, against Washington and certainly the way

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Speaker 3: he played against Alabama. When they needed to make a throw,

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Speaker 3: he made the throw. So he was tough to evaluate

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Speaker 3: from that standpoint though, because it wasn't like they just said, like,

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Speaker 3: over the place. But when he needed to make throws,

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Speaker 3: he did so. And it sounded like he's having a

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Speaker 3: good start to camp. So it's certainly a bummer for them.

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Speaker 3: And I was looking forward to seeing him.

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Speaker 4: I was too, And it's funny this morning a clip

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Speaker 4: came across my timeline about the fact.

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Speaker 5: That, you know, he was getting interviewed.

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Speaker 4: He'd thrown an interception in camp and they asked him,

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Speaker 4: you know what he thought about that interception. He gave

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Speaker 4: such an awesome answer about how he saw it as

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to get better, and it did. Do you

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Speaker 4: have you know, it's kind of brady esque, even everything

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Speaker 4: about him, the way he said it, the way he.

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Speaker 2: Looked when he delivered the line.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, I kind of this

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Speaker 4: kid's got a little something to him. I'm interested to see,

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Speaker 4: you know, what he can do and to get a

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Speaker 4: look at him here, you know, And now we won't

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna have to go on their quarterback up chart,

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Speaker 4: which I'll get my boards.

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Speaker 2: Think I got it up right now, because I'm wondering

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Speaker 5: No, it wasn't sixteen six. They hit a game winning

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Speaker 2: I was in the stands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seven and six going into that game against

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Speaker 5: If I like just completely blocked this year out of

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Speaker 2: You know why, because you were you, Jim and Doug

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Speaker 3: So we it was Nick Mullins twenty to thirty. Uh,

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Speaker 3: we were six, seven and six going Both teams are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know late field goal. Yeah, on the late

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Speaker 3: It's amazing how much this So the the Raiders quarterback

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Speaker 3: Stewart had himself a game you did.

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Speaker 2: That's right, from a food bank, That's right.

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Speaker 5: Did you have a sack?

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Speaker 3: He had a half sack.

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Speaker 2: Half sack him and Sheldon Day split us and I

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Speaker 2: More news out of Minnesota involving former Browns. The Vikings

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Speaker 4: I mean we're gonna get to see him this week.

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Speaker 4: That's right, love Kounashik. He should be in the league.

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Speaker 4: we're selling guys from Mars Hill.

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Speaker 3: We are starting guys from Mars Hill. Madden dropped today,

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Speaker 3: is that right? I see a lot of people playing

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Speaker 5: I see a lot of my timeline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people are excited about it.

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Speaker 2: About the Madden. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take a lot to pull the kids

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it feels like over I mean agreed, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Mad's great, but.

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Speaker 2: I played.

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Speaker 2: Now it hasn't. No, the passing mechanism has been dreadful. No,

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Speaker 3: Dude, I haven't played played last Thursday and through like

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Speaker 2: Oh it's awful.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it makes no sense. So I stopped playing Madden,

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Speaker 4: You just read the slock corner. If he comes in

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Speaker 3: You know, you can live in those. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: And so they had uniform time and we're gonna we're

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Speaker 3: So what you just said is exactly what all of

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Speaker 3: I think twenty four strong, Like twenty seven looks cool.

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00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 3: Twenty I liked when j okay, we're twenty eight. I

447
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 3: think thirty four, thirty four is beastly. Thirty two to

448
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 3: thirty three. Yeah, there's some good ones out there. I

449
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 3: even think, like I like sevens, Like I think even

450
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 3: forty seven is kind of cool for a linebacker. I

451
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 3: think that, Yeah, that's a good one.

452
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 2: Wasn't thirty seven? Lester Hayes Thirty seven is a very

453
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 2: good one. There's another one that's good.

454
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can work with a lot, but I think

455
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 3: the only numbers that are really tough for he was

456
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 3: forty six a couple of years ago, and that was

457
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 3: a disaster. It's like Todd Christiansen and Tim McDonald, that's it.

458
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: Forty six is hard, forty six and forty eight forty eight.

459
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 5: So wasn't Sean Alexander also a thirty seven?

460
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 3: I want to see he was thirty seven.

461
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like fifties could be okay, but sixties

462
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: are awful. Fifty one is probably the word.

463
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 3: I agree. Fifties is great if you're a linebacker, defensive lineman, lineman. Really,

464
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 3: any of the fifties I think work pretty good. Fifty

465
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 3: five is awesome, fifty one I do, fifty six, Like,

466
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 3: those are all pretty cool. The sixties that you're obviously

467
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 3: all in the offensive line, play seventies, offensive.

468
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 2: Line, seventies, then there's at least a couple.

469
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 3: Seventy seven is gonna look cool. I mean you can

470
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: play lineback off. Yeah, rockets seventy three is seventy seven.

471
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: All of those work. It's funny, though, like the kids

472
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: have abandoned the eighties entirely.

473
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 2: Man, they're done with a good receiver and terrible.

474
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: Eighty eighty one, eighty eight, eighty four two, all those

475
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 3: are slick, but none, none of the people. No one

476
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: wears eighties anymore. It's it's over. And I even receivers

477
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: like remember Ceedee Lamb kind of powdered when he had

478
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 3: to wear eighty eight. He didn't want to wear eighty eight.

479
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: And Jerry's like, no, no, no, eighty eight. Mike wore it,

480
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 3: Dez wore it. Yeah, you're wearing it. Drew Pearson wore Itt,

481
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: you're wearing eighty eight. But he didn't want to wear it.

482
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Speaker 3: And I think eighty eight's money. Eighty eight's great. Well

483
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: well timed you. So the way they did it was

484
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: they went merit. The combination of merit, talent and then

485
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 3: work ethic was the way they decided who got to

486
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: pick when when. Yeah, So they went through it and

487
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: he got ten, which was his first pick was to

488
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 3: wear ten, which is the number I wore. I've never

489
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 3: asked him to do it ever, he just has chosen to.

490
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: But he wanted.

491
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he always tries to wear ten. And then they

492
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: always wear thirty two in hoops, which is cool because

493
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 3: that was the number I wore. So that was but

494
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: they I don't ask him to, but they did it.

495
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: But it was pick.

496
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 3: I mean what he picked ten?

497
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: No? No?

498
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 3: Was he like he was near the top? Okay, yeah,

499
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 3: he got to pick pretty early.

500
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 5: What was the first pick?

501
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 3: I think him or another There was like three or

502
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 3: four of them that picked right away. It was like one.

503
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: I like that, I like he's near the top.

504
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: One to ten, six, like not eighteen.

505
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: I thought I figured eighteen would be popular.

506
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: Eighteen there is, there was, yeah, an eighteen went pretty high.

507
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 3: There was a thirteen. Yeah, it was all pretty It

508
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: was all the ones that you'd think.

509
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 5: So Mahome is and ten?

510
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: What Tyreek is probably the best ten in the league

511
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: right now, missing a quarter badly, but I'm guessing Tyreek.

512
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: The best ten in the league. That's an interesting exercise,

513
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 3: like who's the best of each number? Tyreek would be

514
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: the best ten. Yeah, there's got to be a quarterback.

515
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: We're in ten that I'm thinking that I'm missing.

516
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: That's as good as Tyreek.

517
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: No, there isn't you said Herbert Herbert's ten, said yeah,

518
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: Herbert's ten.

519
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Herbert.

520
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: I know.

521
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Lots still like, yeah, that's a good one.

523
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: That is a good one.

524
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

525
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: What so my which got me thinking about are My

526
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: high school number was ten, and part of the reason

527
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 3: for that was it was the lowest number we had.

528
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: We didn't have single digits. They started at ten. There

529
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: was you couldn't be seven, you couldn't be sick.

530
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: We didn't get three until my junior year of high school.

531
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: Well, in hoops, No, in hoops, it started at ten two,

532
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: but in football we started at ten.

533
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 5: That's wild.

534
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: You couldn't There was no There were no single digits

535
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: and start ten was the lowest number. In hoops it

536
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: started double digits too, there was no single digits. Did

537
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: you have singles?

538
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: No? No way, no junior year. I guess this article.

539
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: I look it up. The top ten athletes. The ten

540
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 2: best athletes who wore number ten? Pele number one, messy.

541
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 7: Know you?

542
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: Frasier number two, Chipper Jones number three, Tyreek killed number four,

543
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: Eli Manning number five.

544
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: I forgot he wore ten.

545
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, smirched that number, Guy Lafleur, Yeah yeah. Number

546
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: number six on the list, DeAndre Hopkins, number seven.

547
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: The best part of that is that you also added

548
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: an unrecognizable accent to.

549
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: Guy. But it's ge ge guy. You got it, but

550
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: you got the axes great?

551
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last part.

552
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: Steve Nash is number eight. DeMar derozen is number nine. Wow,

553
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: that's a pretty big girl. The pearl Monrose number ten

554
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in Fran Tarkenton, Andre Dawson, Hawk,

555
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: DeShawn Jackson, Sean Jackson, that's a cool one.

556
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: Nate Archibald, tiny, Nate tiny, Nate tiny Nate, Yeah, I

557
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: think you know we had there. There's some people who

558
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: will say, like there's an organization in our town who's like,

559
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what number you get, you get the

560
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: number we give you. And so like last year the

561
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: quarterback were like eighty four, Like that's just nonsense.

562
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what are you doing?

563
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: Like at least do I love it?

564
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Chaos? I'm sorry, stupid, just eighty four like putting those

565
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: boards together? Wait? What who is?

566
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: Why do they do that? I just think it's really

567
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: simple to like just do it by positionally, you know,

568
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: it's it's not hard to do it that way. And

569
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: then everybody looks the way that they're supposed to look,

570
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: you know, you know, quarterbacks.

571
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: Are running around. How's a squad looking? I don't know.

572
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: Find out Thursday we've got a big scrum against Talmage,

573
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: so we'll get a get a look at him.

574
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: A's he feeling?

575
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: Look, but he he's been under the weather. I mean

576
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: he's he was sick hundred and one fever Sunday into Monday.

577
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: They had pictured day to day. It was pretty lightheaded.

578
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 3: So I don't know, we'll see he's going to try

579
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: to practice today. But we'll see how it goes.

580
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: But feeling good.

581
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: So this is the first year it's one team, like

582
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: up until this point we split team, So we'll we'll see.

583
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: Usually the program is pretty solid. I was I refer

584
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: to as like kind of like Stanford under Arbaugh, like

585
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: always really really good, but there's a real hard ceiling. Yeah,

586
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: you're not beating obin, you're not beating Asselin, so like

587
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna hit that all the way to that regional final.

588
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: But then then it's tough, tough sledding from there on

589
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: out on that side of things.

590
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: That was then. That was then back ten twelve years ago,

591
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: they a linebacker that went to the NFL.

592
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the played at Michigan, went to Vikings and I.

593
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Mean they were they were regional final every year. Yeah,

594
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: and it was like not going any further, no, and

595
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: which is I mean they were frustrated, but I'm like, still,

596
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: you're what that means you're one of the top eighteen

597
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: teams in the state at your division. Yes, and that's

598
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: a good and it's a big division it is, Yeah.

599
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. So they did. Why am I blanket

600
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: on that kid who played at Michigan?

601
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: The linebacker I am too. It was during the TRUBISSI

602
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: So Trubisky was playing. Yeah, Kareem was playing, right, he

603
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: was at Hudson. Denzel was playing It's a.

604
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Bad job out of me. I'm gonna get my keys

605
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: to the city taken. I'll come up with it. I'm

606
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: gonna come up with it without looking. I'm gonna get it,

607
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: all right. I know you do, and I appreciate that.

608
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: All right, lots to get you on the program today.

609
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: We'll take a look around the league. We have some

610
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: discrountal defensive lineman. Yeah, the Madden did drop. The early

611
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: release of Madden did drop, so we should have it

612
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: on the console because I did the I did the earlier.

613
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: What's that the bundle?

614
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bundle. We did the bundle. So we'll see.

615
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: Do you want anything? No, I wanted on. I'm gonna

616
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Speaker 3: get it on my own, all right. I'm gonna get

617
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Speaker 3: it on my own.

618
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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. I did get it organically in the break,

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Speaker 3: Ben Gideon.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it. It's a bad job out of

633
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Speaker 3: me not having that at the ready. Yes, there's no question,

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00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: like there's a g It got the synapses firing. There's

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Speaker 3: no question. I'm gonna make sure this isn't somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: What do you make.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the Bengals wearing orange pants?

639
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: Seems like it makes a lot of sense.

640
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: That's what I said.

641
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: A Bengal Tiger is orange.

642
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And I think they look great. I

643
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: think it looks great with their uniform. I saw people

644
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: like upset, like thinking that they were on our corner.

645
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, hold on a second, like and first of all,

646
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: and this is I know that this is going to

647
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: be in Paul Brown Stadium right there. Were named after

648
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: the guy who founded them.

649
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: Right, so there might be some similarity.

650
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh orange. I I prefer brown over white and

651
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: white over white. Those are my favorite uniform. White over

652
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: white's my favorite one we have, and then brown or

653
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: white's number two.

654
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: I actually and this is I know, unpopular.

655
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: I if we are to wear orange pants, I prefer

656
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: it with white top over the orange. It makes me

657
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: think we look a little bit like we're Illinois. Yeah,

658
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: but it's that's a fine lie.

659
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: I like white over white, and I like brown over white.

661
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: And I like obviously when we had a color rush,

662
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: brown over brown.

663
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

664
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I like and then are the throat, which

665
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 5: is white white white white white white white is phenomenal.

666
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

667
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: Every now the cardiac kids, I'm fine with maybe, you know,

668
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: once a year in a division game, because it's it's

669
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: your hearkening back to a different ear, especially now that

670
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: we have the white face mask.

671
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: Like, and that's that's fine.

672
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: Like every old uniform doesn't be your favorite combo and

673
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: it still does look over its good.

674
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: It's fine.

675
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

676
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: I think there orangepans, look, I think it looks good.

677
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: I like, I love they're all whites with like the

678
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 4: white helmet. I think their color rushes are awesome. I

679
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: like what the Bengals have done.

680
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: I think they have good uniforms. They should after it's

681
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: a Tiger.

682
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: It's a Tiger, and it's a pretty solid color scream

683
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: scheme to work with. You know, I was doing a

684
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: I actually did a the Indie Wrestling Guide podcast last night.

685
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: It's a hell a little drop for them.

686
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did.

687
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: That's a good job at of you. And how did

688
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: you How did you work the time out?

689
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: I made the time we got done last night.

690
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: Big g generous.

691
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 5: It was cool.

692
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: These guys like have reviewed the shows that I've been

693
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: and you know, they didn't know me before and what

694
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: they thought was cool, and but they did ask, you know,

695
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: like why was your gear black and blue? And I

696
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 4: was like, well, we mocked it up and the other colors,

697
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: and they're just I'm only on this once. It's just

698
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: not as good like no fence, no fence to the colors.

699
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Just no.

700
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: It's it's funny when you when you have the conversation. Obviously,

701
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: it's a revered brand now and historically one of the

702
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: most important brands in all of sports. But when you

703
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: when you think about when Ohioan's decided to start naming teams,

704
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: the hell were we thinking. I mean the board like,

705
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: it's crazy. I mean you think even Ohio State Buckeyes.

706
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 3: It's a it's a nut.

707
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: It's a nut.

708
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: It's a nut. Man like, it works that all the

709
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: gray it works.

710
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: Beca isn't a Buckeye. Actually the nut that's like dark brown.

711
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually would make sense if they had brown.

712
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: If they had brown and tan their colors the way,

713
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: if Jesus, that would be brutal.

714
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: It's like that.

715
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: By the way, you've seen those absurd helmets. Somebody is

716
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: wearing that look like leather helmets.

717
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Illinois is wearing the red Grange. Look it's terrible.

718
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I mean I only wear this color brown,

719
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: wearing our gear like my own life. I wouldn't be like, hey,

720
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm going out tonight, let's put on the brown.

721
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Let me find it. Yeah, find a chocolate.

722
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

723
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's it's it's awesome. It's instantly recognizable.

724
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you were and there's

725
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: a lot of it, you think about the Columbus Crew,

726
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a crazy thing to name a team

727
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: and to make them black and yellow. It's all worked.

728
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: They won championships and all of it. Now you love it.

729
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: The Columbus Blue Jackets are named after because we did

730
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: the the uniforms for the Union Army. It's a Civil

731
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: War tie in, and their original mascot was a bee,

732
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: so it confused people think.

733
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: It was a blue jacket, right, yellow jackets, blue blue.

734
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Ohio has got this crazy buzz that's going around.

735
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: That's if there was actually a blue jacket.

736
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a native only to hear yeah, yeah, yeah,

737
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Red Legs and then became the Reds. Yeah, so

738
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: it's we've we've got a lot going on here on

739
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: our front. And Paul Brown, I mean, was that massle

740
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: in high school? They're the Tigers, so let's take those colors.

741
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: But his first uniform basically looked exactly like ours. It

742
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: was a flat orange Helmut the Dead Bengals written on it. Yeah,

743
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: that's it, that's it. It's wild, absolutely wild.

744
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: All right.

745
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: We have a list in an image in front of

746
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: us of the alternate and throwback helmets. They are going

747
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: to be worn by NFL teams this season. If you're

748
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: watching on YouTube, you can see we have pulled it

749
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: up on the screen.

750
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: All right.

751
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: I think we have to do one thing right away.

752
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: You have to throw out, like, if we're going to

753
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: grade these, you have to throw out Denver because that

754
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: is a that's a retro helmet. That's what they should

755
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: be wearing all the time.

756
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: So is that black jags?

757
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: Right?

758
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: But isn't that the Jaguars helmet?

759
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: It's on here as an alternate. So my guess is,

760
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 5: how does this.

761
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: Hey, how is this different than what Jacksonville wears all

762
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: the time?

763
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: I think the jag the Jaguars different.

764
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: Is it a different jaguar head?

765
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: It looks a little bit different to me than the

766
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: one right above it.

767
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: So Brock says, the one on the lower left is

768
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: one they wore in the early two.

769
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: THO is the jaguar head different?

770
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

771
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh it's more of a rounded It's a subtle

772
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: difference though.

773
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: And he's kind of more like, ah.

774
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: Okay, which is the better jaguar head? New guy, old guy?

775
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: I like the old gun.

776
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: I like them when they had the leaping you know,

777
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: the jag on the shoulder.

778
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: Kind of prowling, the prowling jag. Yeah, so I liked

779
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: I think the I like a white helmet in general,

780
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: I think they look pretty damn clean. So I like

781
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: the Jaguar white, so they haven't been white.

782
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 4: And the Prowler throwbacks, so that will be that helmet

783
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: teel top over white pants appear.

784
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: So the Brunelle Bisselli, Fred Taylor yea era, right, A

785
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: lot of success in that.

786
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 5: Elebraating thirty seasons of Jackson.

787
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: Wow, thirty ses.

788
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: Probably should have just kept those. I'll give Carolina credit.

789
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: They basically just stuck with their original look. Not much difference. Yeah,

790
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: so it is a different it is.

791
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: And then let's have the prowling jag on the on

792
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: the shoulder and it's a different Yeah, jag on the

793
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: the mouth is different on him, and it really is

794
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: a whole facial structures structure.

795
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: He's more rounded in the new one.

796
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of like the old one better to

797
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: be honest, Yeah, I definitely do.

798
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact.

799
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in ninety nine percent of the time, where

800
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: were you used to wear?

801
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: And it wins And that prowling jag is awesome.

802
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. It's very cool. The originally one is

803
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: we know is the leaping one and the Jaguar, the

804
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: car companies said, actually you can't use this.

805
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: Sorry, we've got that.

806
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: I think we own that.

807
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

808
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: The Broncos are gonna wear a icy white version which

809
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: of their current one. Uh, and then they're gonna wear

810
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: the Lway throwback.

811
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: So the Icy White should have had the Lway D.

812
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been clean. That would have been

813
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: so good. I really think the Ravens one stinks.

814
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: So you know how I feel about black for black

815
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: sake on the uniform, Fronte like, I think it's a

816
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: cheat code to do it. But they are a raven

817
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: is black and the panther is black like lean fully in.

818
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: Well, they the purple and gold and it's not a

819
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: bad color combination, and there are many franchises that do that.

820
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: Their gold, though, is a little is different than It's

821
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: not like a Lakers No.

822
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's almost like a what the hell

823
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: is the name of that color? Like in the craola

824
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: you get in the crayola box in the yellows and

825
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: it's I want to say, in those it was either

826
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: called maize or mustard.

827
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: Puke, baby puke. I mean it is, it's not that far.

828
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: It's a very strange color. It is.

829
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they tried wearing those pants the one time.

830
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: They wore them once and then that was hair was gone.

831
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: It was bad, by the way.

832
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Ravens, they just signed John Kelly, John

833
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: Kelly's gone.

834
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: There you go.

835
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was gone yesterday.

836
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: L y, no more singing. By the end of the year.

837
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: It will be back on the all right.

838
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: You also have Detroit's. So they're gonna wear that blue

839
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: one with the black line of it. I'm for it.

840
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: I think it's fine. I told you guys when I

841
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: was down in Canton this summer and the first time

842
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: i'd seen the new lines Jersey in the wild popped.

843
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: Holy smokes man, Yep, it is gorgeous. Just crushed it.

844
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: Packers are gonna wear a white lid for the first

845
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: time with the g on it. You and I have

846
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 3: a similar beef with that.

847
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: Yellow stripe down the middle is what it needs. The

848
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: mass of striping everywhere else onthing you form, and it

849
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: helps the helmet out.

850
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: Actually, I think.

851
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.

852
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, it's not bronze.

853
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: I actually pulled up the Crayola sixty four.

854
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: The Vikings one is great.

855
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: To find this damn shade that tries me. I always

856
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: hated it as a kid. It's not golden rod.

857
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: You'll find it.

858
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: I'll find it.

859
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: Vikings all white looks great. The Giants went with kind

860
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: of a an amalgamation. This is the Princeton wing tea

861
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: winged helmet, which then became the Michigan winged helmet. It's

862
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: blue with I actually think the helmet's fine. I think

863
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: it's if they wore it in their history at school.

864
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know why they The rest of it

865
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: is a mess. It's like they melded six different eras.

866
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't love it.

867
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston, I just feel bad for I just feel

868
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 3: bad for him. What they wanted to do they weren't

869
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: allowed to do.

870
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though.

871
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: So I saw some interview with Andre Johnson and he

872
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: was wearing a hoodie. Yeah, that was kind of that

873
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: dark blue with that light blue age, and it actually

874
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: looked pretty good.

875
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: It's, of course, it's navy blue and baby blue. Those

876
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: two things look very very good together. It's just a

877
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: shame that they couldn't do what they wanted to do,

878
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: which is do a baby blue jersey, and that part stinks.

879
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: I think the red helmet is awesome for them with

880
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: the horns. I think that's a really cool helmet. So

881
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: they have a red one, and then they have the

882
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: navy blue one with the light blue h and I

883
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: do think their uniforms look better. They don't look quite

884
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: as generic because the blue is actually darker than the Bears.

885
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: It's almost like black. It's the darkest blue I've ever seen,

886
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: which I like, which I think is cool. It kind

887
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: of separates it a little, but it's not quite as

888
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: generic as they as they certainly seemed initially. The Jets

889
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: have one that they don't need, the black one. They

890
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: don't that's at all, but it's gonna black is a

891
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: cheat code. And then they have they do they are

892
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: bringing back the name helmet. Yeah, so that's very cool

893
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: because I think that's my favorite helmet they have, is

894
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: the Nameth helmet.

895
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: And I like those uniforms with kind of like the

896
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: body and the white sleeves on the green jersey, you know,

897
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: the green body on the jersey.

898
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some good ones in here.

899
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: I think Denver's true throwback, the JAG's true throwback. The

900
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: Lions and the Vikings are my four favorites.

901
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny? How how how important Teal was in

902
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: the nineties.

903
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 5: Oh, Man, Teal is big, It's huge.

904
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: Everybody, Charlotte Hornets, San Jose Sharks, we're talking about just pistons.

905
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: Pistons changed to Teal.

906
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: There was a weak Teal, Teal and Black still had

907
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: it though.

908
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: Teal and Black is was pretty good.

909
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean San Jose's and the Sark started it

910
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: and then everybody said, oh, let's pop in on that.

911
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: The Santase Sharks, they're colors. All it was pretty elite.

912
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: That was pretty well.

913
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they crushed it all right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: We have a little bit of breaking news in the NFL,

927
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: not the type that we like to share, but I

928
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: rapaporting that a deal, the from of a deal is

929
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: in place for the Pittsburgh Steelers to acquire Brandon Ayuk

930
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: and a deal that is in the mix, and now

931
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of will San Francisco sign off.

932
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: Apparently Ayuk has approved of the deal that Pittsburgh would

933
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: offer him, and now it's just a matter of San

934
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: Francisco approving the deal. The Niners have an offer out

935
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: to Ayuk on a long term deal for him to stay,

936
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: but he has not accepted, so it's in his court.

937
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: He will either be a Pittsburgh Steeler, probably for more money,

938
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: or a San Francisco forty nine or for less. How

939
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: did they get back in on this?

940
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: They obviously have upped whatever they were willing to offer

941
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: because that was a sticking point. Because sticking point that

942
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: they weren't offering enough.

943
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: It is.

944
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: Says, hey, hey, come on, come on, come on, come on.

945
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 5: Nobody wants that I don't want that.

946
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, come on, come.

947
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: On, it would be that would be brutal.

948
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: I was saw a thing earlier today put out and

949
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: if this is in the rundown give you can yell

950
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 4: at me, but I don't. I don't think it is

951
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: because I think it would head. Graphic five put out

952
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: their top ten teams of the year going into the season,

953
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: like they're like roster. Yeah what they are, just the

954
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: top ten teams, like their power rankings. Yeah, Kansas City

955
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: is number one, yep. Niners, two, Lions, three Eagles, four,

956
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 4: Texans five, Wow, Green Bay six, Bengals, seven Ravens eight,

957
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: Bill's nine, Brown's ten. So the Lions and the Packers

958
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: are the only that's the only division with two teams yep.

959
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: And then of course you get the joyous AFC North

960
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: with three of the top ten, and I'd have to

961
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 4: imagine Pittsburgh is not that far behind.

962
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's got to be eleven or twelve, right, yeah, yeah,

963
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: And then if they get AYUK.

964
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: Like Kansas City, no one else, Niners, no one else

965
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 4: in their division, Eagles no one in their divis Vision,

966
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: Texans no one in their division, Bills no one in their.

967
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: Division, what's stunning is what happened with the NFC and

968
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: AFC West over the last three seasons. You could argue

969
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: that those were the two toughest divisions in both conferences

970
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: for much of the better part of the last four

971
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 3: or five years. And I think Mahomes broke the AFC

972
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: West and forced everybody to kind of reset. And I

973
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: think the same thing happened in the NFC with the

974
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: forty nine ers. Some of it was cap stuff with

975
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: the Rams, but the Rams went they went all in,

976
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl and then have had to

977
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: start over. Seattle's kind of start. They're kind of in

978
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: a not sure what they are. They the roster is

979
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: really nice, but it's like Gino was not the same

980
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: in year two as he was in year one. And

981
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Arizona's starting over is what they've done with Kyler, but

982
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: they're starting over. So no, it is it's it's all

983
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: of the power is in the AFC North, And yeah,

984
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh pulling this off would only enhance that. Lots of

985
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: lots of contract contractual stuff around the lead league. We

986
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: talked about Hassan Redick yesterday requesting that trade, the Jets

987
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: releasing a statement We've informed Hassan that we will not

988
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: trade him, that he is expected to be here with

989
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: his teammates, and that will continue to be fined for

990
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: the CEBA if he does not report. This is on

991
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: the Jets. Yep, it's on them. It's in the brochure.

992
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: It was known when you acquired him.

993
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: I guess they just felt like they were going to

994
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: be able to get that.

995
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: New deal done.

996
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: Strong arm him into a new deal.

997
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's strong army. It just

998
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: kind of feels like it makes sense where we all

999
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: want this to work. We just traded for you. Let's

1000
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: figure it out now. The Jets, from their standpoint, they don't.

1001
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: They were very good anyway. They didn't sound like they

1002
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 4: need him. No, it would be a wonderful addition. But

1003
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: it does seem pretty wild that they have reached this

1004
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 4: impasse that they currently reside at.

1005
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: It does. Former Steelers wide receiver Martavius Bryant is signing

1006
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: with the Commanders one hundred and forty five for twenty

1007
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: one eighty three seventeen touchdowns, has not played in the

1008
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: NFL since the Raiders in eighteen. Also or off field stuff, Yeah,

1009
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: I mean that's six years without playing, But he flashed,

1010
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: you know, before he ran into trouble. He flashed. He

1011
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: certainly had some talent. The Dolphins currently lists two running

1012
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: backs Raheem Mostert and Devon a Chain as starters there.

1013
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel says, I mean, who says we have to

1014
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: stop it too?

1015
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: Maybe we can just four right and they are loaded.

1016
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: They've got a ton.

1017
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are tough spot there. The NFL rolled out

1018
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: a new credentialing system for sense of areas in NFL stadium.

1019
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: They use facial authentication software for high security zones such

1020
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: as field, press box and locker rooms. Vegas police plan

1021
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: on boycotting the new credentialing system at Allegiance Stadium. The

1022
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Police Protective Association says, they're going to take

1023
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: your biometric data, your face. They're going to use it

1024
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: however they need to, and they're going to extend that

1025
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: to their NFL family partners to use your information should

1026
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: they need to. Good grief.

1027
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: Can't wait to go there later on this year. Yeah,

1028
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: because everybody else in the league. This is something that

1029
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: like we were on the forefront of.

1030
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: Is that what he do?

1031
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 2: WELB does it? Like, Yeah, I'm not quite sure. Hey,

1032
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: Vegas gets stuff together.

1033
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyreek Hill was asked on The Up and anim

1034
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: Show if he'd race no Aliles, and he said he

1035
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: would beat no A Liles in a race. I do

1036
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: not believe that he would. It's not one hundred meters, No,

1037
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: maybe in a forty. His Lyles starts slow anyway. Yeah,

1038
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: his best race is the two hundred, but he starts

1039
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: a little slow, so maybe you could get him in

1040
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: a forty. I still think the difference between elite world

1041
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: champion one hundred meter nine to seven guy an NFL

1042
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: player is still We.

1043
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: Have some guys on our team moving in college ran

1044
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 4: you know ten ones, ten.

1045
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: Twos, right, which is smoking smoking? Yeah, but four.

1046
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 4: Tenths of a second, while it doesn't sound like roches

1047
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 4: is a is a big deal.

1048
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: It's a big deal. And this from the Titans. Quarterback

1049
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: Will Levis puts mayo in his coffee. He's partnered with

1050
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: Helman's Mayonnaise to introduce a new fragrance called Parfume the mayonnaise.

1051
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: It's eight dollars a bottle. Come on, it's a fragrance.

1052
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Did you see it this morning?

1053
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 5: I saw the ads.

1054
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: It can't be real right, like they really want to

1055
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: smell like mayonnaise. I do you like an aoli? Not

1056
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: even an aoli like a garlic aoli.

1057
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna just call it an aoli. And then now

1058
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: it's not mayonnaise anymore. Now is elevated sauce.

1059
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: Going to be dry heaving? By this point in.

1060
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: Where would would the ultimate negative breakfast for you be

1061
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: hard boiled eggs with mayo? Is that the apex of

1062
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: the opposite of apex? I think I would if I

1063
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: had a hard boiled egg, like crumbled up and then

1064
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: we put mayo on it, that would be which is

1065
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: basically egg salad.

1066
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: So egg salad is a disgusting absolutely discuss.

1067
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: On an egg salad sandwich.

1068
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 4: Discuss it really really gross, and I think it's look

1069
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: people eat it and they are chewing and you can

1070
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: see it and there it's disgusting, going down discussing.

1071
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 5: Atrush they break up, break up the texture, then.

1072
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: Throw a little maybe some some celery salted there. Yeah,

1073
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: little it gets gets some onions.

1074
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 5: It's discussed little mustard so gross.

1075
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: I love an egg salad.

1076
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: People get in there, right, Why do you think they

1077
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: just need it? Everybody e salad sticks their talking out

1078
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: while they.

1079
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like chomping on it. It's like vomiting there.

1080
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: And then they go like this because I think that

1081
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: like leaves them. It must leave like a disgusting film

1082
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: on your time.

1083
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know why it is in my head, but

1084
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: when I picked, because this stump stems from your youth, right,

1085
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: like they were making you eat eggs, boiled eggs.

1086
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean they're also just gross.

1087
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: They stink.

1088
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: So when I in my head, when I picture it,

1089
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: I just picture your current head as a as a

1090
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: man in your forties on a little nate body, and

1091
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: I picture you in like a monassory situation where nuns

1092
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: are forcing you to eat hard boiled eggs.

1093
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I paid, Like after weeks of throwing up

1094
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 4: every day, they finally were like, all right, you don't

1095
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: have DNA made.

1096
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: I can only ground him so much. Start feeding him eggs,

1097
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: eating hard boiled eggs every morning. Give him in down,

1098
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: really terrible good lord. By the way, this is from

1099
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. It's thought that Tyreek Hill's best time in

1100
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: the hundred was nine point nine to eight with a

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Speaker 2: wind behind him. Without the wind, his best time was

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Speaker 2: ten point one nine Lyle's triumph with a time of

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Speaker 2: nine point seven nine to win them.

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Speaker 3: That's that doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a lot.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing though, if that's what Tyreek I mean,

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill is not training to run the one hundred, but.

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Speaker 3: He probably was at one point.

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Speaker 5: At some point. Yeah, maybe faster.

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Speaker 3: Who's to say, wouldn't think aren't you usually peak speed?

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Speaker 3: Like early to mid twenties.

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Speaker 5: I'd same that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how old was Carl Lewis when I was going

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Speaker 3: through the Olympic one hundred meter champions when I was

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00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: going off that riff about the coolest thing being the

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00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: world's fastest man. Yeah, if that's the best title you

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00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: could want someone, I came to you want it in

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Speaker 3: eighty four and then officially he won in eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: but remember Ben Johnson beat him and then got pinched.

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Speaker 3: Then got pinched.

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Speaker 4: By the way, did you say after did you see

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Speaker 4: that when you were watching the women's I think it

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00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: was a women's all around, a women's floor and we

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Speaker 4: got gold and bronze. Yeah, Jordan Giles and the Romanian

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Speaker 4: girl thought she'd had it, and then they deducted something

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Speaker 4: from her and all of a sudden she was out.

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Speaker 5: She's back baby.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the details of that?

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Speaker 5: That they submitted the video too late?

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Speaker 3: The claim The Romanians claimed that we submitted the scoring

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Speaker 3: air the beef with the scoring air four seconds after

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Speaker 3: the one minute deadline to do it, We apparently submitted

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Speaker 3: videos saying that we submitted it thirteen seconds before the

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Speaker 3: one minute threshold. Furthermore, who's keeping the one minute timer?

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Speaker 3: Is it on a clock?

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Speaker 5: Well, by the way, there, where's acting it? So apparently not.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the original Romanian said she can

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Speaker 3: keep the medal. They just wanted to medal for their

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00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: person too. Yeah, and they're trying to make it now,

1139
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: they're trying to make child's give it back. I say,

1140
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Speaker 3: come get it, come get it, come get it. What

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00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: a waste, what an absurd waste of time and money. Oh,

1142
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna go to a Swiss tribunal, so fly a

1143
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: bunch of idiots over to Geneva.

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00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: And girls foot ever even touched out when I watch

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00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: a video, don't get ever touched out anyway?

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00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: Nonsense to give her a bronze clock though, if Giles

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00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: gives back the brown bronze medal, he's gonna give her

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Speaker 3: a bronze clock. Bronze clock. Yeah, there you go. Well,

1149
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't give it back. I'd say, come get it.

1150
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: Same thing I told Reggie Bush. They come for your heisman,

1151
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: come get it, You come get it. I'm not giving

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Speaker 3: anything back. All right, Second hour of the program coming

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Speaker 3: up next. We'll take a look at your Cleveland Browns

1154
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: at the halfway point of training camp. A couple of

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Speaker 3: preseason games left some details on that to look forward to,

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Speaker 3: which is nice. She listened to Clear the Browns Daily

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Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns. We did have the news off the

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Speaker 3: top of the show, and just to reset that for

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Speaker 3: you if you are just now joining us. We certainly

1166
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 3: aware that Brown's rookie second round pick out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: Michael Junior arrested this morning on alleged domestic disturbance in Avon,

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Speaker 3: evolving his girlfriend. A Brown spokesperson said in a statement quote,

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Speaker 3: we are aware of the incident involving Michael Junior last night.

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00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: Mike and his representatives have been in touch with the

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Speaker 3: appropriate authorities. We're in the process of gathering more information.

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Speaker 3: Will have no further comment at this time. The team

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00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: is off today and then we'll be back tomorrow. So

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Speaker 3: the joint practice tomorrow. Coach will speak at some point

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Speaker 3: tomorrow something like that, probably typically how it's been. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the way it goes on that side

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Speaker 3: of things. All right, On to the football of the matter.

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Speaker 3: We have joint practices coming here on Wednesday. We have

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Speaker 3: two preseason games left. We're more than halfway along the

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Speaker 3: line in terms of training camp practices, but two big

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00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: preseason games left. The joint practices, I think you could

1182
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: argue this is the most important week of training camp

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: will be the next week with the Vikings coming in here.

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Speaker 4: It is, and unfortunately you're not going to be quite

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00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: at full strength. As we know, the Browns dealing with

1186
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 4: a number of injuries. You'd like to see that because

1187
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: this is the this is the barometer, like we we

1188
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 4: need to be appreciably better than the Minnesota Vikings period.

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Speaker 4: It should should be there are building we bill dominate them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. Should not be able to block it. And

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Speaker 3: we got the word earlier today that JJ McCarthy, the

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Speaker 3: rookie had of Michigan, will not be involved. He had

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Speaker 3: a knee surgery. So it'll be Sam Darnold Nick Mullins

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Speaker 3: going for the for the Vikings this week. In terms

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Speaker 3: of the joint practices, So as we take a look

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Speaker 3: at where we stand right now, the strongest position on

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Speaker 3: offense on this roster is what doctor z.

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Speaker 4: I think you could make the case that it is

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Speaker 4: the quarterback room with our depth relative to the rest

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Speaker 4: of the league, but I will go with I think

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00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: the receiver room is the strongest room. Amari Judy, Elijah Tillman.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the strongest room we've got on offense

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Speaker 4: right now because if the offensive line as a whole,

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do it right now. No, you could.

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Speaker 3: If you can go interior offensive line, even with the

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Speaker 3: loss of Whippler, you're still you're really good at tierror.

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Speaker 4: Harris and Zentter and JV. M. Cohen and Michael Dunn

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Speaker 4: are your backups.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, with Potonio and Teller and Post that's

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Speaker 3: loaded and Dwan's been great. I just want left tackle.

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Speaker 3: And I think that probably speaks to how scary it

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Speaker 3: is right now on the left side of our offensive line,

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Speaker 3: because everything else is as good as any group of

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00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: talent in the league on the offensive line. But the

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Speaker 3: fact that Jack and Jed have not been involved is glaring.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the fact that JERMAINEA. Fetti started getting first

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Speaker 4: team reps tells you that everybody is well aware of

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Speaker 4: that there is a significant problem. You know, James Hudson

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Speaker 4: played I think eight snaps in the preseason opener, gave

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Speaker 4: up a sack. It has been a problem in practice.

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Speaker 4: It's been a problem in fact to run portions of

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Speaker 4: practice with how much he has struggled, especially and everybody

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Speaker 4: struggles with Miles Garrett. But it's gotten a point where

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Speaker 4: it's it can be silly now. Jermaina Fetti, you know,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and two games eighty three starts in his career.

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Speaker 4: He has not started a game since he started seven

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Speaker 4: for the Bears in the twenty twenty one season time,

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Speaker 4: so he was not deemed good enough to be a

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Speaker 4: starter in Atlantan twenty two. Did not play a game

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Speaker 4: for the Buffalo Bills last year, although he was on

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Speaker 4: the active roster all year. So I mean, you're with

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Speaker 4: him or you're with Achema Dnegy, who you know, is

1234
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 4: forty three games, fifteen starts in his career, and he

1235
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Speaker 4: has not started since the twenty twenty two season when

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Speaker 4: he started for the Cincinnati Bengals. He made fifteen starts

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Speaker 4: total in three seasons with the Bengals, so it never

1238
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: even has really been a full time starter. It's a

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: it's it's a problem right now, and it's a big problem,

1240
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: and it is disrupting the offense. You know, when you

1241
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: look at Deshaun's bad plays or ones that have been

1242
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 4: bad results, I'll say because they weren't necessarily bad plays

1243
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: for him, but the ones that were bad results, I

1244
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: gotta tell you you can trace a lot of it

1245
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: to James Hudson and to pressure being the factor that

1246
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 4: broke the pipe. And we go back to last year,

1247
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: you know, and Jed Wills was the problem. Jed Wills

1248
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: blows a block jack Conklin's out for the year. Week one,

1249
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: Jed Wills blows a block. Week two, it's a sex

1250
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: for fumble touchdown, we lose the game. Yeah, it's a problem,

1251
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: and you're counting on Jed Wills, I think to be

1252
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: a savior or Jack Conklin to help kind of guide

1253
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: you through there. Now, he did play left tackle in

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Speaker 4: Michigan State. But this is not This is not great, brother,

1255
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: it is. It is not great, and it's becoming more

1256
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: of a problem than anybody obviously would like it to be.

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest concern of camp by a decent margin. Yes,

1258
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: is that, despite all the other issues, strongest position group

1259
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: on defense as we stand now, So I mean with

1260
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: guys out or health or whoever. The corners I mean,

1261
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Speaker 3: although no Newsome, but still the rest are still pretty

1262
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: damn good.

1263
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Speaker 4: Corners are good, I would say right now, the strongest

1264
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 4: position on the defense is the defensive end. Yeah, because

1265
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: you get Zidarius backus is Obo back, not really but Obo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Even with Zadarius like on the side right now, I'm

1268
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: not sure if he's gonna be able to participate in

1269
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: the joint practice, but he's gonna be ready for the season.

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Speaker 4: You got Miles Zadarius Obo, Alex Right, Isaiah Maguire, Isaiah

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Speaker 4: Thomas is your sixth I mean yeah, that is that

1272
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: room's loaded defensive tackle. You liked what was going on

1273
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: Now that I think there are certainly questions about that

1274
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: room and what its composition will be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the injuries have just been you know, that's the thing,

1276
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: this is the defense has just been hit so hard

1277
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: with injuries. The depth of it, and and and things

1278
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: off the field as well. Sold it's been tough. One

1279
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: word to describe the Browns quarterback room so far this

1280
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: preseason ducta ze deep.

1281
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah deep.

1282
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: I mean Deshaun has looked good, Jamis has looked good,

1283
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: DTR has looked good, Huntley's look good.

1284
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

1285
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 5: It's a very deep core.

1286
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: Room, and I think around the league, you know, I

1287
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 4: think if the Browns had their ideal outcome here, it

1288
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: would be you know, DeShawn is your starter, Jamis is

1289
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: your backup, and then DTR is here to be the

1290
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: backup of the future, and you're able to make some

1291
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: type of a move to bring it an asset to

1292
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: your organization.

1293
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Yep, that seems like the way that it would ought

1294
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: to go. Biggest concern on the defense since we know

1295
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: the biggest concern on the offense at left tackle.

1296
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I really don't have a concern on the defense.

1297
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: They weren't great in the preseason game. The depth of it,

1298
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: especially in the middle, wasn't great. I mean, Siaki Eka

1299
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: we talked about that yesterday. That's aren't going to play.

1300
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, now that obviously is disappointing, But I

1301
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 4: don't have a concern with this defense. I would guess

1302
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: that you know, I want them to be going into

1303
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: the season. The biggest concern is how can the number

1304
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: one defense in the league have been thirty second in

1305
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 4: the red zone? So can we clean that up and

1306
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: force more threes than seven? So that's probably the biggest

1307
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 4: concern is you know, yep, why are how do we

1308
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 4: get better in those in that critical situation.

1309
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: That's the job of Jim Schwartz to get him there.

1310
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: Who's impressed you the most through three weeks? Player or coach?

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01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: Can I give a player and a coach?

1312
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 5: Sure, thank you?

1313
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: Player has probably been you know, if I was saying,

1314
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: I mean, Miles just is on another level. Chief really

1315
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 4: has been on another level. So I'd say the person

1316
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 4: that's impressed me the most is and I I love him,

1317
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: m J.

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01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 5: Emerson.

1319
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: He just looks like a true, legit, number one, lockdown,

1320
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, All Pro cornerback.

1321
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: He does.

1322
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: I haven't seen as much as you, but he's the

1323
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: one to me, like just in the practice as I've

1324
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: been to he just looks like that's it.

1325
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: He just me.

1326
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: He looks like, you know, like Rod Woodson back when

1327
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: he's with the Steelers. Like he's lengthy, good size, like

1328
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: he's physical, the way he moves like all of it.

1329
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: He just to me looks like an all pro corner

1330
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: That's what he looks like.

1331
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 5: Ye which is a great, a great thing.

1332
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: And then coach standpoint, it's almost a cheat code to say,

1333
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: like because Denzel is always good, Miles is always good.

1334
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: But does feel like to me, it feels like Emerson

1335
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: has taken even a bigger.

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 5: Sta YEA, yeah, yeah's what it looks like. I would say.

1337
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: Not on like where we're thinking they're gonna be a

1338
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: pro bowler. Et Ceda Tillman's a much improved player as well,

1339
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 4: and then the player those players the coach. I love

1340
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 4: just being around Duce Staley and just watching him operate Rabel.

1341
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: Would be the other one.

1342
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 4: I mean, Brabel's been unbelievable, but I really like being

1343
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 4: around Duce Stalian, seeing the way he operates.

1344
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, both those guys have been a been fun, good

1345
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: change of pace, and I think it speaks to how

1346
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: secure Kevin Stevanski is to bring in guys who are

1347
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: different from different places, that he wants new voices, that

1348
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: he's always learning, always adapting or dying. I think all

1349
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: of that makes sense. M VP of Training Camp so far,

1350
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: I am tasked with you only giving one.

1351
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 4: MVP of Training Camp Chief. Yeah, Chief, because he's been there.

1352
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 4: He's really the of the megastars. Now, Denzel's been there

1353
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: the whole time and has played very well, but I

1354
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: would say the Chief's just been consistently the most dominant

1355
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: guy out there. Miles, we didn't really see it. The

1356
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: Greenbri We've only seen him since we've gotten back here,

1357
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: and I mean he's I mean.

1358
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: What is the one thing you want this team to

1359
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: show you over the newt next two days against the Vikings.

1360
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 4: That there is no question in any observer's mind that

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: we are significantly better than the Vikings.

1362
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 5: And we look like a playoff team.

1363
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see us dominate in the trenches.

1364
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 5: Dominate, bully them, dominate.

1365
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Philly did that to us a couple of years

1366
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: ago here, and then when we went to Philly last year,

1367
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, we can hang with this team.

1368
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: That's what we need.

1369
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: We need, we need to do what Philly did to

1370
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: us two years ago, what Buffalo did to us. And

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01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: even they were given gibbee business in was that twenty fifteen?

1372
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fifteen.

1373
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: They're being so mean to give a who is coming at.

1374
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: You gibe something? Brown's Boy, Yeah, it's a couple of

1375
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: you guys going to show up tomorrow, some dbs.

1376
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: It was some dbs, Brown's Boy, Browns DB's for them.

1377
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: They were doing one on ones with our guys, and

1378
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 4: like we couldn't get off the line of scrimmage.

1379
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: There we were in Rochester.

1380
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: Were somewhere there. We had arrived by train.

1381
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: We are chartered an Amtrak.

1382
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 3: Oh for god, Sike chartered an Amtrak and stuck us

1383
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: with a bill that are now defunct steakhouse.

1384
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: Kelly better be careful. Yeah he did watch the interactory

1385
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: seafood towers.

1386
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the bill on that pal So that's

1387
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: going to go, Hey, yeah, I paid the debt, but

1388
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna pay you guys pick up the tab,

1389
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: you pick up cool. Oh okay, that's great, thank you,

1390
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: thank you. It was And then he was in here

1391
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: the next day like begging us to give him a

1392
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: shout out. And I'm like, wait a second, I paid

1393
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: for my meal. Why am I giving anyone shout out?

1394
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: Paid for the meal, and.

1395
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: Then talking about an expensive meal. It was not cheap.

1396
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 4: No, no, after there was more chilled seafood than anybody needed.

1397
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: Then anyone could consume.

1398
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Brown's bills, joint practices, brutal got dominated on

1399
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: one field, and then like you would run underneath this

1400
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: this little tunnel to the to the main field, and

1401
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't any different on the other side. And I

1402
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: mean it was day one, get or you know what

1403
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: kicked in. It wasn't any better on day two. Was

1404
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: that was fifteen, but they drank all the alcohol in

1405
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: Rochester for that entire week.

1406
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: Is that players that's pettin yep in fifteen. Yeah, I

1407
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: want to say I was out here. It's funny, like

1408
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: you're going through like that receiver talent and all of that.

1409
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: The first year that I came out here for training

1410
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: camp was sixteen.

1411
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: And it was Corey Coleman.

1412
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: It was Kessler. No, no, no, it was it was seventeen.

1413
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: It was seventeen. Was the first time I was out

1414
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: here was seventeen.

1415
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: Special times.

1416
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen was when prior you guy, it was sixteen

1417
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: when you guys did the joint practice down in Columbus.

1418
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 3: Was at fifteen we didn't do or not the joint

1419
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: orange scrimmage or something down there.

1420
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: Combs.

1421
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the year the time the first time I was

1422
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: out here, it was when Asweiler, Oh.

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01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's seventeen.

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Clipboard Jesus.

1425
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like Osweiler's the starter and I and You're going,

1426
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: what holy smokes, what are we doing here?

1427
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, it was just another Monday, Yeah, just a normal day.

1428
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was poor DeShawn Deshaun Kaiser Kessler. Yeah, that situation.

1429
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: That's tough spot. No wonder your receivers couldn't get off

1430
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: the line of religion. Fifteen.

1431
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: I just looked at it. Yeah, good grief.

1432
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: Uh long ways from that, Thank God. Uh Z and

1433
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: Joe Hayden Wi Joel Buttonio coming up next to us

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 3: to clearvel brons daily on a fifty esp in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: now here is z and Joe Hayden with Joel Botonio.

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01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: Joel, great to be with you and obviously a veteran

1451
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 4: like yourself. Probably training camp like eh, let's go goright

1452
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,479
Speaker 4: ahead and get into the season.

1453
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 5: But what's this training camp been like for you so far?

1454
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

1455
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 6: It's been great. We've had a good ramp up period.

1456
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 6: You know, we're starting to get pretty competitive with each other.

1457
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 6: But we got Minnesota coming to the town, so a

1458
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 6: little bit of new blood to practice against.

1459
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: But it's good.

1460
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 6: Every time football season rolls around, you get that extra

1461
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 6: little uh, you know, spirit in the sky and the

1462
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 6: guys go a little bit harder. But it's been fun

1463
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 6: to start camp. You know, I'm excited, like you said,

1464
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 6: to start playing some games, but we got a little

1465
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 6: bit of time left, a couple few more weeks.

1466
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 7: I'm just excited because you were one of the one

1467
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 7: of the last brons I got to play with that

1468
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 7: is that is still here with my team, my good

1469
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 7: man teammates. So just through your career man, being able

1470
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 7: to see you play, six time Pro bowler, five time

1471
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 7: All Pro just coming into this year, just be an

1472
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 7: e vet. What are you thinking about with training camp

1473
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 7: as far as like, I know you want to get

1474
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 7: to the season, but leadership wise, how do you look

1475
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 7: at it?

1476
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's you know, personally, it's a fine line between

1477
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 6: like pushing my body because you know, you get older,

1478
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 6: you played for a long time. You want to be

1479
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 6: ready to play the week one, but you also can't

1480
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 6: push yourself too much where you're broken down. But leadership wise,

1481
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 6: I want to try and we got a few young

1482
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 6: guards and there a few young linemen. You know, we

1483
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 6: lost coach Callahan, we brought in coach Andy and so

1484
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 6: for me, it's really just trying to get the room

1485
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 6: where I wanted to be. And we have some injuries

1486
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 6: right now. Guys are coming back, but we're talking up

1487
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 6: to young guys kind of describing what our standard is

1488
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 6: of play and how we want to do it. And

1489
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 6: that's the main thing right now is just getting the

1490
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 6: group together. Like when we're in the Green Brier, we

1491
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 6: had dinner, you know, get the guys out and just

1492
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 6: you know, hey, this is our group. This is who

1493
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 6: we're gonna have to try and be one of the

1494
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 6: best units in the league with. And that's kind of

1495
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 6: the goal of camp.

1496
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 4: You mentioned those young guards. Zach Zendre oviously drafted. Javian

1497
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: Cohen was not drafted but obviously started at Alabama All

1498
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: SEC freshman team. He's got a little bit of a

1499
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 4: different pedigree than a lot of undrafted free agents out there.

1500
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: What's it been like with those two guys, And I

1501
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: know Zinter said he just wants to be a sponge

1502
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 4: at the Joel Buttonio Learning Tree.

1503
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 6: Oh.

1504
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 2: Great, guys. Both of them are good guys. It's funny.

1505
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 3: JC.

1506
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 6: I was like, how did you not get drafted? Dude, Like,

1507
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 6: you know, you have this resume and stuff, and he

1508
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 6: got into it. I won't get on camera, but no,

1509
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 6: he's a talented player, Zacs A talented player. You saw

1510
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: in the Flashes in the preseason game, what they've done

1511
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 6: in camp and stuff. But to bring those guys in

1512
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 6: compete and it always brings me a youth on energy

1513
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 6: when you get a young guy and that's ready to

1514
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 6: learn and wants to compete. Because you're like I was

1515
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 6: like that too, you know. And so you get that

1516
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 6: and you get a little push from them.

1517
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 5: You're now the Hoffen Alex Mack.

1518
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, you're the sage wise old Pro Bowl veteran.

1519
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 6: It's funny though you don't feel like it when you

1520
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 6: are that, you know what I mean. You think about it,

1521
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 6: but you don't feel like it. You're just like, I'm

1522
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 6: one of the guys, you know, and they're like, oh man,

1523
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 6: I us He's like I DMD you on Twitter one

1524
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 6: time when I was in high school and I was like, oh, man,

1525
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 6: I probably did not respond to you. I'm sorry, but

1526
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 6: you know, it's one of those full circle moments.

1527
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 7: That's one of the best things, especially just being in

1528
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 7: the league a force for such a long time. You

1529
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 7: don't it happened so fast that you just feel like,

1530
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 7: all right, no, I still feel like I'm a youth.

1531
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 7: But you had dudes coming in at ten years in

1532
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 7: the league. Those dudes now twenty one. He's ten years

1533
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 7: old back in the day, and there's still you know

1534
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 7: what playing with you. So I know that's a great feeling,

1535
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 7: and I'm just I'm just so happy to see that

1536
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 7: the how have you been dealing with it?

1537
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: Bro?

1538
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, man.

1539
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 2: I know.

1540
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 6: I looked up to Joe when he got in and

1541
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 6: he had just got paid, i think his big contract.

1542
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 6: That's when I got in the league. So I was like, oh,

1543
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 6: this is the man, you know, and the way he

1544
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 6: competed was so cool. But yeah, it goes so quick.

1545
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 6: Like Joe was in year eight when I got lead

1546
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 6: Joe Thomas, and I was like, oh man, he's so old.

1547
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 6: He has kids and everything. And now I'm like year

1548
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 6: eleven and I'm like, he only played eleven years like

1549
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 6: Joe Thomas, you know, So it's it truly is like

1550
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: a it happened so quick. But that's why I try

1551
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 6: and enjoy every day and every win and every moment

1552
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 6: and hopefully you get a few more this year.

1553
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 4: All right, this year some wrinkles to the offense, that's

1554
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 4: kind of what we're calling it, with Ken Dorsey coming in,

1555
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: Tommy Reese coming in, Deuce coming in, and certainly you

1556
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 4: can hear Duce Staley all over the field throughout practice,

1557
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 4: but from your standpoint, probably some new run concepts out

1558
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: of the gun and.

1559
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: You know, the RPO game.

1560
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 5: What does alignment have to think about in that?

1561
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 4: Because we saw a touchdown come off the board for

1562
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: being too far down the field. But sometimes you think

1563
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 4: they've handed it off and you're run block and so

1564
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 4: is that a new thing that you've kind of had

1565
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 4: to work with And what's that been?

1566
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: Like?

1567
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's big, And honestly, our O line coaches come from,

1568
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 6: you know, Philly, and Roy comes from Philly and they

1569
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 6: did a whole bunch of RPOs. So he has a

1570
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of coaching points for us on that.

1571
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 6: But it really is you know, if the backers aren't

1572
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 6: coming downhill, you got to kind of ooze. You gotta

1573
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 6: take your time off off the ball. So there's there's

1574
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 6: really thought. It goes into it, you know. And then

1575
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 6: if you're the backside, you're the big guy, you're almost

1576
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 6: pass blocking sometimes and then the ball gets handed off

1577
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 6: and you're like, oh, I guess we're running.

1578
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: The ball here.

1579
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 6: So there's a little bit of difference. But I think

1580
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 6: it does great things for us. It really spreads them out,

1581
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 6: and it confuses the D line because they see one

1582
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 6: thing and they're reacting one way, and you can kind

1583
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 6: of make them do what you want. And then hopefully

1584
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 6: you have those big players. You saw the touchdown and yeah,

1585
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 6: those are little wrinkles that we're gonna work out. And

1586
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 6: I mean they killed the double team, like honestly, like

1587
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 6: it was an impressive double team block. And I wouldn't

1588
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: even blame it on Zach or.

1589
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: Whoever they call the penalty on when those RPOs those

1590
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 4: are fun too, But now we have some more half

1591
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 4: the line goes one way and the other half's going

1592
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: the other way. For a throwback screen, that's something that's

1593
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: probably new for you and you're a number eleven's what are.

1594
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: Those plays been like?

1595
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's been nice.

1596
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 6: You know, you get a little bit of wrinkles in

1597
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 6: the playbook where you're like, hey, it keeps you engaged

1598
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 6: instead of running the same thing for the fourth or

1599
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 6: fifth year. So you're still engaged. You're right, you know

1600
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 6: you're engaged. You're learning new terminology. But it's been great

1601
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 6: because we can take the best things from coach Dorsey,

1602
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: Roy Andy Kevin, like all these guys have these best

1603
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 6: plays they run. We could put into one offense and

1604
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 6: kind of create the Cleveland Brown's offense.

1605
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's good stuff, especially now it's we have the

1606
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 7: great receivers. Hopefully Chubb comes back healthy, but with Deshaun

1607
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 7: Watson to being able to have me in the second

1608
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 7: year having a complete offseason here, how do you think

1609
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 7: he's been doing so far?

1610
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 6: Oh, it's been great. I mean, and he's comfortable in

1611
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 6: the gun, running the RPOs, like that's where he lived

1612
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 6: in college when he was in Houston. So I think

1613
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 6: having those type of plays for him is a huge thing.

1614
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 6: And you've seen there's there's teams in this league that

1615
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 6: have plays that are like rbos named after the Shawn

1616
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 6: because he, you know, made those things so popular when

1617
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 6: he was in Houston, and so I think it's been awesome.

1618
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's he wants to win as bad as anybody,

1619
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 6: and so to have him back there, have him healthy,

1620
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 6: have him coming out here and leading us is is

1621
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 6: big for us.

1622
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 4: What are you looking forward to again, the Vikings come,

1623
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: because that's probably gonna be the most significant work that

1624
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 4: you will get prior to September the eighth against the

1625
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys.

1626
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny. I was checking out the coaching roster

1627
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 6: and the roster over there, and there's a lot of

1628
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 6: ex Brown either players or coaches coming over here. So

1629
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 6: I was I was excited to see some guys first off,

1630
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 6: and then secondly, it's it's time to compete. You know,

1631
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 6: we're going against our defense like they were on the

1632
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 6: four down. I think Minnesota's more of a three down base,

1633
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 6: and they have coach Flores over there who's gonna give

1634
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 6: you some looks. So it's gonna be great for us.

1635
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 6: And and honestly, it's more controlled than actual game, sure,

1636
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 6: so you get to work in a little bit less

1637
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 6: dangerous than when you go out there and play and

1638
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 6: hopefully for us. It's it's good two days of practice

1639
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 6: and we compete and guys want to get better.

1640
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: Well, we're looking forward to it.

1641
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 4: Joel, thanks for the time, getting ready for a big

1642
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 4: season and man can't wait to see out there September

1643
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 4: the eighth.

1644
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate you guys having me all right there you go,

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Speaker 2: Hello, Uh, we've been trying to knock this out for

1660
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: about a week. Yeah, today we actually knock it out.

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01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 2: It's the NFL Triplets rankings from our good friends at

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Speaker 3: All right, I I have hastily put together my personal

1664
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: route Mount Rushmore of triplets. Okay, all time.

1665
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: This would be QB running back and then wide receiver

1666
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: slash tight end.

1667
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 3: All right, here, quarter, this is all time. This is

1668
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 3: all time.

1669
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: That's all right.

1670
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: So this isn't this current NFL, but rather the all

1671
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: time for me personally. Okay, so just my personal ones, right,

1672
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: I got four Joe Jerry Roger, So.

1673
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 4: I had that to if you're using so you're saying

1674
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 4: they had actually played together, yes, okay, yeah that's what

1675
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 4: I had.

1676
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: Look, they have to play together. That's the first one

1677
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: I wrote down. The second one I wrote down, and

1678
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 3: I understand we've gone over. His Hall of Fame status

1679
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 3: was Aikman irv Emmett was my was on my list

1680
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 3: that Cowboys are Super Bowl. Mister, hold on my personal you.

1681
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: Can do your own.

1682
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: I'm here is here is my third pick me Manning

1683
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: Marv edge Hi. That second my last one in my

1684
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: my personal Mount Rushmore. Mahomes Kelsey Hill that you said

1685
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 3: tight end, you.

1686
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: Said you need a running back, okay, QB all right,

1687
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,480
Speaker 2: so running back then I would go.

1688
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 3: Then I would go Warner falk Holt, Yeah, I have

1689
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: to have a runner, then I'll go that way. You

1690
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 3: have to have a runner, all right, So that's how

1691
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: I would do it. Those are the Those are the

1692
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: the uh those are the ones I went with.

1693
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: What do you okay, gold star kid? What do you

1694
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: want over there? Wave in your hand? Pick me, pick

1695
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: me gold star? Go ahead, listen. I'm pretty good that

1696
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: I did get a lot of gold stars. I did

1697
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: get a lot of gold stars, a lot of br

1698
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I want.

1699
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to jump in there with Peyton, Edge and Marvin,

1700
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: which you've got two third I just I think that

1701
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 4: they the gap between Peyton and Akman is so immense

1702
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 4: that I think and Edge was really.

1703
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: I didn't rank them in order. I just went the

1704
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 3: four I'm not saying necessarily. Those are the ones that

1705
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 3: really jumped out to me. Yeah, so I had who

1706
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 3: were so you had niners? You have Edge, Manning and Harrison. Yeah,

1707
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: do you need two more?

1708
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: Definitely? Kurt Warner, Marshall, fulk Tory Holt, I mean that's

1709
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 5: a no brainer.

1710
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 3: Yep.

1711
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: I mean I get the Dallas one.

1712
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's got to be some that were, like,

1713
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 4: I don't even really care who the running back is

1714
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,879
Speaker 4: when you had let's see two thousand and seven Patriots,

1715
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 4: when you had Moss.

1716
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: And that's the problem, though, you don't have the running

1717
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: back and you have to have the running back, do.

1718
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: You you don't Let's see two thousand run.

1719
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: Like Kevin Falk like, I don't even know who the

1720
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: back is?

1721
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: Could you have a Corey? Could that have been a

1722
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: Corey Dyllan hanging on at that point?

1723
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 3: There's one year, Yeah, I think I don't think so, though.

1724
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 2: I think sixteen and.

1725
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 5: Their leading rusher was Larry Maroney.

1726
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that ain't it.

1727
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: That ain't that ain't it.

1728
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 4: I mean it difference between I mean Rady and Moss

1729
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 4: are for sure, but the difference.

1730
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 3: Between Brady and Aikman is not as big as the

1731
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: difference between Emmett and Lawrence Maroney. Like that's a big drop.

1732
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big drop, fair is.

1733
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of there's anybody else from

1734
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: our youth that had the running back, receiver.

1735
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 4: Quarterback, Jeff George Ironhead, Hayward, Eric Metcalf nineteen ninety four Falcons,

1736
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 4: Young Rice, Ricky.

1737
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: Waters, Ricky Waters. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.

1738
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: That's a really good group.

1739
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, record break.

1740
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean the Steelers would have some good ones with Bradshaw, Harris.

1741
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 5: Ben roethlisbergeron Bell, Antonio Brown.

1742
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a short period that that's very similar to

1743
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 3: the young one, to the Young Rice Ricky Waters short.

1744
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 4: Period I think right, it's a one year. What about

1745
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 4: like a Culpepper Moss Robert Smith, Well.

1746
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 3: That would have probably been you could have done that.

1747
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you could have done Randall Cunningham that one

1748
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,839
Speaker 3: year with Randy who Robert Smith when they went fifteen

1749
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: and one and lost to the Dirty Birds, Chris Chandler

1750
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: and Jamal Anderson, Gary Anderson missing a kick.

1751
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: It's outraged. Do you think that what year? Do you

1752
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: think that was?

1753
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: Ninety eight is when it was? That was his rookie Randall, Yeah,

1754
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: Randal Randy when they lost to the Falcons, Randall, Randy

1755
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: and Robert Smith. I think Chris Carver was on that team.

1756
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: They were fifteen to one.

1757
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 4: Robert Smith that year eleven eighty seven, six touchdowns, five

1758
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: yards of carry added two ninety one and two touchdowns,

1759
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: so total fifteen hundred total yards, eight total touchdowns. Moss

1760
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 4: was thirteen, seventeen and seventeen.

1761
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: Randy do Randy's yards per catch that year?

1762
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, nine and a hal nineteen.

1763
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: Nineteen.

1764
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I want to know, Randy, when was when

1765
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 5: did Culpeper come out?

1766
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: He's more like early two thousands. He played at UCF.

1767
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: He was at UCF because I called those college games

1768
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 2: against Bowling Green.

1769
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 3: Did you yeah?

1770
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, here you go, here you go Culpeper.

1771
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 4: So you have Robert Smith go this is actually maybe

1772
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 4: this is a better one. You have Robert Smith goes

1773
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 4: for fifteen twenty one on five point two yards to carry,

1774
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 4: seven touchdowns, finishes the year with nineteen hundred scrimmage yards

1775
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 4: and ten total touchdowns. Pretty good rand of Moss that year.

1776
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 4: Seventy seven, fourteen, thirty seven, and fifteen averaged eighteen point

1777
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 4: seven yards to catch. Chris Carter also had twelve, seventy

1778
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 4: four and nine Culpepper And again.

1779
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 5: This is ear this is two thousand. Is the year

1780
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 5: two the year.

1781
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 4: Two thousand did Culpeper throws for four thousand and thirty

1782
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 4: three and runs for five hundred and seven.

1783
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 3: That was one of the first years that I played fantasy,

1784
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 3: and he was unbelievable. He was a late round pick.

1785
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: Buddy Mine went to UCF, so he drafted him. That's

1786
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 3: the vaporized.

1787
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: Not to make light of it, but there was we

1788
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: called so we called his game. We played them down

1789
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: in Central Florida, and then they came to b G

1790
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: my senior year and he walked out on the field.

1791
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, we don't have anybody that can.

1792
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: Stop him the end.

1793
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 2: Uh yeah. But there was a plane crash in a swamp.

1794
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: It was a value jet, value jet, and we flew

1795
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: value Jet because the team didn't have any room on

1796
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: their plane. And we're like, we had a discounted flight.

1797
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: Well that's about as discounted as you can get. Really,

1798
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: let's fly value jets. Oh my god, and they just becameter.

1799
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 5: I'm telling you what that.

1800
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 3: I think that for for when you do this, though,

1801
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: it has to be over a peer. I think it's

1802
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 3: got to be three to five years or something like that.

1803
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

1804
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: One.

1805
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: It's a great one off. All right, go ahead, given

1806
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 3: all right?

1807
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: Higher or lower uh number one on the or lower

1808
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs Mahomes, Pacheco Kelsey. Should they be

1809
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 2: lower or are they just right? The Ravens are number

1810
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: two with Lamar Derek and Mark Andrews, and the Eagles

1811
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: are third with Hertz Saquan and A. J. Brown.

1812
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 3: No, Kansas City's one, Zi girl.

1813
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: Zigura has a beef Your forty nine ers, by the way,

1814
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: or fourth Brock party say McCaffrey that they could be

1815
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: number one?

1816
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 4: Mahomes Mahomes, yes, I don't think, like the Ravens are

1817
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 4: number two.

1818
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: I don't either, but Mahomes and then start after that,

1819
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: where are the Dolphins? Dolphins would be two? Uh Hill

1820
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: and then the running backs?

1821
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 2: Then no, I know.

1822
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: Statistically it's going to be good, but like that's that

1823
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: what's going to stop him? So who's who you said?

1824
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 7: Four?

1825
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Was?

1826
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: The Niners most of it had a thousand yards, eighteen

1827
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 4: touchdowns and average five yards of carry.

1828
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 3: Last year, Stay by one thousand yards over sea.

1829
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 5: He led the league in rushing touchdowns in total touchdowns.

1830
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: One understand Bengals are number five Brow Moss Jamar Chase,

1831
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: who was three.

1832
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't think zag Moss is going

1833
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 4: to start for them. I think Chase Brown's gonna start.

1834
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 4: Chase Brown's gonna be the guy down there.

1835
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: From what number three were the Eagles, Hurts, Barkley Brown, Yeah,

1836
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: that's pretty good.

1837
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm curious on Hurts. I think this

1838
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: is a really big year for him because he kind

1839
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: of got sorted a little bit. And no, Travis Kelcey

1840
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 3: on the on the push push stuff.

1841
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 4: Assuming Aaron Rodgers, how Niners should be higher than four?

1842
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 4: Those were Rogers, Breist Hall, Garrett Wilson should be higher

1843
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 4: than nine.

1844
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 5: Yes, if Rogers is Rogers.

1845
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't I mean, I don't know that

1846
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: Mixing's got anything left in the tank. I love and

1847
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: I love.

1848
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: So those five teams I just mentioned were considered elite

1849
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 2: in this. So it was Jared Dubin who wrote it,

1850
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 2: but there were twelve writers that voted on it.

1851
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 5: From CBOs okse Ball.

1852
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Seven was Goff Gibbs and Amra Saint Brown.

1853
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 5: That's a good one, although Gibbs is banged up already.

1854
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: So GoF no, not six?

1855
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 3: Sorry six?

1856
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Soon?

1857
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: Did you say with six?

1858
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: Six? I'm sorry? The Rams Stafford, Kyron Williams, Pukakua, that's too.

1859
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 3: Hard for the Rams.

1860
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: I agree.

1861
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: That's too Jets are too low.

1862
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Texans are number eight with CJ, Joe Mixon and Nico intriguing,

1863
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,440
Speaker 2: but I think they're properly.

1864
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: The Falcons I think honestly should be hired than I

1865
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: mean the Bills were. I know Josh Allen is great,

1866
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 4: James Cook was solid last year. Dalton Kincaid, Yeah, that

1867
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 4: ain't it Dalton and Kaid does not match up with I.

1868
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Don't know what the affair is with that guy in Buffalo.

1869
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 3: So I was talking to doing a little Falcons. The

1870
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: the one thing that we're talking about it this morning

1871
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: with somebody down there. The over whelming feeling was, and

1872
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 3: this is my gift to you, and the fantasy is

1873
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 3: that Cousins loves Pits, Yeah, and that he throws to

1874
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: him a novel.

1875
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: They should have been doing that for the second that

1876
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 4: they drafted overalls like Pitts is dominant and Cousins throws

1877
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 4: to him all the time. Hits finally going to be

1878
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 4: what what he was drafted to be.

1879
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: Sounds like he's finally going to be it down there,

1880
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 3: finally going to.

1881
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 5: Throw the ball.

1882
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: So where would you slot the Dolphins at number ten?

1883
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: They're at number ten, They've got to be Tyreek Hill.

1884
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill puts them to me in the top five alone,

1885
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 4: moster led the NFL and touchdowns have him and.

1886
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 3: To his great yeah, I have him somewhere between six

1887
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: and five and Baltimore. They're definitely. Look, I don't know

1888
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: what it is. I know it's I think Lamar Jackson

1889
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,520
Speaker 3: is the hardest player in the league to talk about

1890
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: because he's a two time MVP, one time unanimously, and

1891
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 3: so when you have those credentials, how can you not

1892
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 3: say greatness? And yet to me, it feels like there

1893
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 3: is a concrete ceiling for what can happen in the

1894
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: postseason and so yes, he's sensational in a one off

1895
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 3: half to prepare for, but in the postseason it just

1896
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: hasn't happened out. So I think, don't you agree? I

1897
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: think Lamar Jackson is the toughest talk in the league.

1898
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: I think he's the hardest two and four.

1899
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent completion, six touchdowns, six picks, and you

1900
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: could be like, well, that's not fair.

1901
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, it was rookie year. His rooky year, he

1902
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 4: threw two touchdowns in one pick. So since his rookie year,

1903
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 4: including the two MVP seasons, it's four touchdowns, five picks,

1904
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 4: six point eight yards per attempt, two hundred and twenty

1905
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 4: yards passing per game, rating of seventy five point seven.

1906
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: And when you needed him to make a play last

1907
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,480
Speaker 2: year against Kansas City, could not, couldn't.

1908
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 5: No, he can't throw it.

1909
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 3: No, he can't throw. You're a great line, is it

1910
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: all the time? Can you throw when everybody knows you're throwing. No,

1911
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 3: Mahomes not only can throw and everybody knows he's throwing,

1912
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 3: he can throw down seven in under two minutes. He'll

1913
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: go get you six. He's seven and seven seven in that.

1914
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1915
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 3: The next best is Brady and Breeze. Breeze is fifty

1916
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: six percent, Brady's fifty three. Mahomes is seven out of

1917
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 3: seven in those scenarios in his career down seven under

1918
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: two minutes ties it seven out of seven.

1919
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Andrews. Andrews a top five tight end.

1920
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: He's coming off hurt.

1921
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if they put Zay Flowers in there and

1922
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 4: even even more interesting and Henry, yeah, Henry, I mean

1923
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 4: the Niners need to be up there. Brock Niners should

1924
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 4: be two. Brock Purty forty two hundred and eighty yards

1925
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: thirty one touchdowns, led the league in touchdown percentage yards

1926
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 4: per attempts rating, and QBR McCaffrey is the best, and

1927
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 4: then you can pick I UQ had thirteen hundred yards

1928
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 4: Debo Kittle.

1929
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 5: I mean you have a lot of options, there are you?

1930
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 3: Kad thirteen hundred yards on the thirty most targets in

1931
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 3: the league.

1932
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuk last year averaged twelve point eight yards per target,

1933
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 4: which is the best I've ever seen for somebody who

1934
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 4: actually was like playing.

1935
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 2: Let's just remember this. Derrick Henry is now thirty years old.

1936
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: He's carried the ball fifteen hundred times over the last

1937
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: five years and hit a career low of four point

1938
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: two yards per carry last season.

1939
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill, who is a vertical bomb guy, has had

1940
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 4: four seasons in his career over ten yards per target.

1941
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 4: His best ever was twenty seventeen when he averaged eleven

1942
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 4: point three. We're talking about Brandeyuk was at twelve point eight.

1943
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 3: We were twenty second.

1944
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not gonna get I don't expect this. I mean,

1945
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 4: chubbs banged up. Amari doesn't get the respect that he

1946
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: deserves typically, and people are down onto shot.

1947
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the one quote on this is Cooper is

1948
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 3: awesome is what he says.

1949
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: So that's just it.

1950
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: So put it on a bulletin board. Kids, that's the

1951
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: way that's going to go. So much more to come.

1952
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: You listen to Clear the Rons Dately on a fifty

1953
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,440
Speaker 3: ESPN Cleveland.

1954
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,040
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1955
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Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1956
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Speaker 3: Well, tomorrow is gonna be a good one. I'm looking

1957
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Speaker 3: at this will be fun to see.

1958
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Speaker 5: These are important days.

1959
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Speaker 4: I think these are the most important days of the

1960
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Speaker 4: preseason or of the of training camp for the Eland

1961
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Speaker 4: Browns and a lot of the guys that will be

1962
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Speaker 4: playing for the Browns.

1963
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Speaker 2: We're not gonna have all of them.

1964
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Speaker 4: We know we're a little bit banged up, but this

1965
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Speaker 4: is a very important day in my opinion, for the

1966
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Speaker 4: Cleveland or two days for the for the Cleveland Browns.

1967
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Speaker 3: Here, you know, we were I was looking. I kept

1968
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Speaker 3: asking Gibbe, who do they have five? Who do they

1969
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Speaker 3: have six? And then I see underneath my computer is

1970
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Speaker 3: the print out for the higher lower.

1971
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Speaker 2: Good job to you, yeah you I.

1972
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Speaker 3: Would have been good for me.

1973
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Speaker 2: To.

1974
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Speaker 3: I wish I would have known or paid attention or

1975
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Speaker 3: realized that I had it in front of me the

1976
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Speaker 3: whole time. It's okay, it's a bad job.

1977
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Speaker 2: Out of me. I think you're great.

1978
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Speaker 3: Small venus hate to see it, Hey, hate to see it.

1979
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Speaker 3: Got to be aware of what's on the counter.

1980
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Speaker 2: Kids. Yeah, it's gonna be a big one.

1981
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Speaker 3: Gonna be fun tomorrow. I think there is a lot

1982
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Speaker 3: of pressure on us to look the part.

1983
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Speaker 5: Yes, and we should.

1984
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Speaker 2: We should, there's no reason not to.

1985
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Speaker 5: You want to be good. This is a hard schedule.

1986
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Speaker 5: You want to be good. Be good.

1987
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1988
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Speaker 4: Time you have to beat good teams, and this would

1989
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Speaker 4: be Minnesota would be one of the easier games on

1990
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Speaker 4: our schedule.

1991
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Speaker 3: This is a team that is building building, This is

1992
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Speaker 3: a building team. Yeah, justin Jefferson against twenty one and

1993
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Speaker 3: twenty three. Baby, fun, come on those receivers.

1994
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be real fun.

1995
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Speaker 3: That'll be fun. Gonna be fun. We'll paint the pictures

1996
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Speaker 3: for you tomorrow. Back out here at the CCMC. The

1997
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Speaker 3: next level is coming up next. Centralist everbody clear? The

1998
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1999
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2000
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