WEBVTT - Drive Time - Fins Flashback with Randy McMichael

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<v Speaker 1>Factors Asafrid touchdown. What a win for this Miami Dolphin team. Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>What is up? Dolphans? And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Miami Dolphins Official podcast network, covering your team,

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<v Speaker 1>your Miami Dolphins, each and every day. How's it going everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>It is Friday. I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am here to bring you your daily dose of

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, we're gonna flash

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<v Speaker 1>things back to two thousand four with former Miami Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>tight end Randy McMichael. Will recap the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins game as well as that two thousand four season.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of change in turmoil that year. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of some of that here with Randy McMichael.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus we'll get John Conjemmi's Three Keys of the Game

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, get the last injury report for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And also here from Seth and Juice from the Fish

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<v Speaker 1>Tank Podcast. All of that and more on this Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>October the ninth edition of the Drivetime Podcast. And support

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into the flashback with Randy McMichael and

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<v Speaker 1>Seth and Juice from the Fish Tank Podcast, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and stop by on Friday, as we do every

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<v Speaker 1>week here on the Friday Drivetime podcast with John con Gemmis.

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<v Speaker 1>Three keys to the San Francisco Game Sunday four oh

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<v Speaker 1>five Eastern in San Francisco, And up first contain kittle Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this on the preview podcast Fifteen Targets

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen Catches last week, and he talks about John does

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<v Speaker 1>about the multitude of talent and skill players this offense has,

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<v Speaker 1>but it starts with George Kittle the talented athletic tight

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<v Speaker 1>end who blocks, who contributes the passing game. He also

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<v Speaker 1>mentions Eric row getting the toughest assignment of any Miami

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<v Speaker 1>defender in this game. Good matchup to watch there with

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Rowe and George Kittle number two battling through injuries

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<v Speaker 1>along the offensive line, and how there have been great

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<v Speaker 1>improvements so far along the offensive line, but this week,

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<v Speaker 1>heading into the game, we know Austin Jackson left the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, we had Julian Davenport step into the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert Hunt plays some of that extra heavy tight

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<v Speaker 1>end position as well, So it could be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how the Dolphins shift the offensive line if they

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<v Speaker 1>are down one of the regular starters on Sunday and

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<v Speaker 1>number three limit the explosive plays. He says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one area the Dolphins offense could use a little more

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<v Speaker 1>and a defense a little bit less defensive side, just

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<v Speaker 1>holding down the big games from last week fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, thirty one yards that will be a big

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<v Speaker 1>key to this game. With George Kittle, possibly Deebo, Samuel Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>Yu Jerk McKinnon. He list on the list of players

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<v Speaker 1>here forty niners and then offensively as well, it generates

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<v Speaker 1>some explosive plays. Longest play of the year for the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins so far twenty seven yards. So you can find

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<v Speaker 1>John's keys up on Miami Dolphins dot com as well

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<v Speaker 1>as my written review taking a look at some matchups

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the forty nine personnel and how they

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<v Speaker 1>present challenges to this Dolphins defense and offense. Alright, the

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<v Speaker 1>injury report for Friday game statuses are now available. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get to the Miami Dolphins first. Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson was added to the injured reserve list on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dolphins called up running back Solving Ahmed. The

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<v Speaker 1>former Washington Husky is now on the Dolphins active roster.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the game, status is two players will miss

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Defensive end Shack Lawson and tight end Durham

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<v Speaker 1>Smith will not play, and wide receiver Jachem Grant is

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<v Speaker 1>questionable with an illness, so that means Byron Jones back

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<v Speaker 1>in the lineup for Sunday on game day, get the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins cornerback back and for the forty niners report, go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and check out the top news article up on

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins dot com that will update this afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have the latest on the forty nine report for

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<v Speaker 1>injuries on Sunday's game And joining the Drivetime podcast now

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<v Speaker 1>is a five year member of the Miami Dolphins. Tight

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<v Speaker 1>end out of Georgia. He's wearing the Bulldogs T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>right now as we speak. Randy McMichael, Randy, how you doing, man? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on, man, I appreciate you having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh always excited to talk about my fun times in

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<v Speaker 1>Miami other than all the damn losing. It was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day I was talking to uh we we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't interned up in the PR department. She she went

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<v Speaker 1>to Georgia and she was talking to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>players that are a coach or someone that was up

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<v Speaker 1>there that had gone to Florida, and they were getting

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<v Speaker 1>into a bit of a disagreement, let's say, about the

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<v Speaker 1>Florida Georgia rivalry. So I'm sure you've been pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>involved in that one, haven't you. Oh yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>My first time ever going to uh or the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>game was being Channing Crowder and we left him for

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<v Speaker 1>a Lauderdale and literally I was the only person on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane with a Georgia shirt. Everybody had the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>giron and Channing when of course they beat us, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the funnest experiences I've had. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been twice since in and both times Georgia has won.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's always fun. My producer here,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my day shows here with Andy and Ready

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<v Speaker 1>and uh in Atlanta and our producer, she's a big

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<v Speaker 1>Florida fans, so we had her go back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>and we've won the last three, so it really hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been any really ashtarted coming from her park. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say we finally got college football back on

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<v Speaker 1>television these days, that that game is coming up pretty soon?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it October? It's it's it's usually brown things Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably weekend. We got tennesseee this weekend. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the games that always like tells me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>college football is back in the full swing of things

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I rivalries. You can't beat him. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been a challenging year this year with

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<v Speaker 1>college football, but it's good to see the SEC back

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<v Speaker 1>on TV finally. Um. One thing I always ask our

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our our flashback subjects here are flashback guests,

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<v Speaker 1>is what all you up to these days? You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>your radio show, but just in general, what's Randy mc

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<v Speaker 1>michael up to in two thousand twenty? Oh well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, i'm I had my home. I'm are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sports stations up here in Atlanta nine and

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<v Speaker 1>not the game I'm one of the midday show holds

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<v Speaker 1>me and Andy bonkers, so we do tend to every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. Uh. We just finished up our one year

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary a couple of a couple of months ago, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's been fine. Going good right now is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good It's just you know, it's different because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get that you gotta have more of a fans

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<v Speaker 1>per active of things that I usually would have had

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<v Speaker 1>as a players. You're as a player, you really didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, as you know, an analyst for these things,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be sympathetic to the fans here because you

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<v Speaker 1>know they are the ones that listened to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask, because you know it's I always love

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<v Speaker 1>seeing players make that jump from player to media because hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hey hey I'm not a media guy. Okay, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>radio guy. Right, okay, all right, let's keep asking. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a radio guy. Is that what calls himself to Yes? Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we refused to fall into that category. So yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a radio game. Well yeah, I love hearing Channing

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<v Speaker 1>every every time you open the press box before the games,

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<v Speaker 1>they have the pregame show playing on the speakers. I

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<v Speaker 1>love hearing him on those you know, every single Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in a good company there are you and

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<v Speaker 1>channing that that rivalry runs deep. But getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit off the rails here, I did want to ask you, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going from player to radio guy as you

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<v Speaker 1>so say, have you have you like earned any new

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<v Speaker 1>level of maybe like respect for the job that people

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<v Speaker 1>in the media have to do, or like maybe change

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<v Speaker 1>your perspective a little bit on that. Well, yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you do, man. I mean it's a hard job.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would never try to downplay it as

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<v Speaker 1>a point of you know, you guys have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>job because I know, being a former athlete, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't going well, the last thing you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is talk to people. So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I get that part about it and everything and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be as you know, a guy who asked

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<v Speaker 1>the question to those players, trying to be as sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>but not as you know, soft you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the one thing that's going on up here

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<v Speaker 1>right now, what the Falcons losing is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people getna well, y'all work for the flagship, so you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta actually softball questions which you really don't. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can't ask a question like the fan would want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, you know, so you've got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to around it, you know, be professional,

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<v Speaker 1>but also keep it as really as possible. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I know about being in athletics for so

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<v Speaker 1>long is that we know the tap. We know we're struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing that, you know, And so that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that that was probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>hardest things is trying to you know, answer the question,

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<v Speaker 1>ask the question as a fan, but also knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't want to ask answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's about it. I'll get some questions sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, like hey, Travis, do you think the dolphin

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<v Speaker 1>should make this switch? I'm like, hey, that's that's way

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<v Speaker 1>above my pay rage, Oh my god, won't that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't work up there. I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reporting the facts to you, sir. That's my job exact. Randy,

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<v Speaker 1>off the top, you mentioned some losing seasons there in Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't all bad right away. You guys were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good early on in your tenure, but things kind

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<v Speaker 1>of took a turn when a certain running back called

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<v Speaker 1>it a career at least the first time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I love asking players with perspective on this because

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<v Speaker 1>this was I was sixteen years old when when when

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky hung him up the first time, I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>read it in the newspaper, tells you kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>they woven go. That was I was very very heartbroken

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<v Speaker 1>by I had to Ricky Williams Jersey's, I had your jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>I had Chris Chambers Jersey's, but he was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my guy. I'm gonna be honest with you. What was

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<v Speaker 1>that like did you guys? Was that a total surprise

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<v Speaker 1>to you? And what was it like when you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came to terms of ship, our our top guy

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<v Speaker 1>back there he's gone. Now. I wasn't surprised because I

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<v Speaker 1>know Ricky and got to say to spend Scott a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to spend around Ricky, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>my thing was this, I never forget the night we

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<v Speaker 1>found out, me and Chris Samans we were actually having dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>They they were either dinner down on the beach and

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<v Speaker 1>we were leaving and one of our partners that was

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate, dugger, he hit me in and was he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what's und was like, what's up? Make that man,

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<v Speaker 1>we just heard that Ricky retired. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what I said. I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I left it at that, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I talked I was talking to Chris. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, they're just on the Ricky retired, Chris like

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<v Speaker 1>were and so that's what it was. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>just went on and continued party and everything. They paid

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<v Speaker 1>too much attention to your people that were at the

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<v Speaker 1>spot we were at. We're coming up to us and like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, what's going on Ricky? And okay? And so

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<v Speaker 1>when we first we finally got back together as a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was it was surprising because he was

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<v Speaker 1>best player, but you know, we had faith in Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Minor and then you know, and then you hated what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to t Minor because as soon as he gets

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<v Speaker 1>his opportunity, he gets a high ankle's brain and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same all season. So well, we I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised, but it was like, that's just Ricky,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, it's just Ricky. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>trade for Lamar Gordon too, so there's yeah, the running

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<v Speaker 1>back combo there with he and Travis Minor, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you mentioned it too. I always remember Travis Miner

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<v Speaker 1>always had such high yards per carry averages because he

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<v Speaker 1>would rip off those big runs on like third mode

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff in that third down situation. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see him get a chance. One guy, Randy

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<v Speaker 1>I was less excited about, even as a young kind

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<v Speaker 1>of die hard, just blind, you know, unconditional love fans

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<v Speaker 1>of the team was a J feely. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>got to say that nothing about that and he, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he comes in in the trade, and you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Jay Fiedler there, a guy that's won a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of games for you guys and you played with for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. How did you guys like perceive that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback competition that trade? Was it like this is still

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's team and a J has to come take it over?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like was there some competition there but between the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room to figure out who was on whose side?

0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Like what was that whole situation? Like for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>were we were J feelers guy? You know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>J feelers guy. Ted had us over for dinner all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. We always about to dinner, everything, and he

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<v Speaker 1>threw me the ball. So that's why I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, Jay's Jay is one of my good friends

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<v Speaker 1>that we still talk uh every now and then. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was different because we had understood why

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<v Speaker 1>they were bringing a J in and then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>give up that kind of pick. We got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a backup. And then we heard you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>before he got down and he heard the real California kid,

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<v Speaker 1>California cool, all that, which he was. But he's a

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<v Speaker 1>fiery competitor and he and and I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and him, our relationship it grew as the season

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<v Speaker 1>one along, because I mean I was a J feeler guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was me and Chris we were feelers guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so a J had to come in and make that adjustment.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, some days it was good, some days

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't good, you know, And you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco Tree, and we're gonna talk about like you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that whole week we were out and we were

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco because we played Seattle and who plays

0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.280
<v Speaker 1>San France and st weekend. So we went to Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>play Seattle and lost, and then went down to h

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<v Speaker 1>to San France, and I think that week right there

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<v Speaker 1>in San Fran allowed a lot of us to just

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<v Speaker 1>get to know him and sit around and hang out with.

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<v Speaker 1>A J is a cool cat. He just just California

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<v Speaker 1>cool man. And that was actually my segue into the

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<v Speaker 1>next question. Here was because you know, I'm from the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Northwest, Randy Is. Everybody in this podcast is probably

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<v Speaker 1>sick of hair about by now. But I come from

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle area. And so when you guys will come

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<v Speaker 1>out every eight years, you let that cross conference trip

0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and I got to see my team once every eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys came out that year in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw that game, and you had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to drive down late. But a J had a glute injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that? You have to write? Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is what happened. So so a J gets

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<v Speaker 1>hit and has his bruise all like this right cheek

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, right, and so he's hurting, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because he was he was getting hit the

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<v Speaker 1>whole game. And so like a J comes in, he

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<v Speaker 1>subverse of all he changes the re arrangement of the huddle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I don't like this huddle in this bace

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<v Speaker 1>and you go ahead. We're like, bro, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win this game. And so a J and so a

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<v Speaker 1>J has a bruise butt and so we score. Something

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<v Speaker 1>good happens and he's walking on the field and I'll

0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.640
<v Speaker 1>never forget David Bowens comes and smacks him right on him,

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<v Speaker 1>right on the bruise, and I just remember A J

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the ground like somebody shot him, and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>center her, like, man, get the hell up, man, And

0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that weren't that bad. But then when we saw the

0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.280
<v Speaker 1>bruise in the locker room, Oh, it's pretty bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest thing was how he hit him and how

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<v Speaker 1>he hit that ground, and you know, it was it

0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was one of the funniest thing ever sing because it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was an AJ. We always thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was a drama king, but that was a big bruise. YEA. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran that highlight on Sports Center for not just

0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that day, but for the rest of the week. Him

0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of reacting to the backside slap a very common

0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.560
<v Speaker 1>occurrence in all sports. But you had mentioned the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast trip out and I was gonna ask you, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you guys would stay out for the whole, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two weeks playing the Seahawks and the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>is there. But before the trip had occurred, right, did

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<v Speaker 1>he just not want to go out to the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, man, Dave took the

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<v Speaker 1>easy way out, man. And I'm always appreciative days him

0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and his lovely why she's awesome. You know, they would

0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Speaker 1>always give you get whenever you have children. They would

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<v Speaker 1>give the kids, you know, the uh you know, like

0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the little bonds thing. And my son, my oldest son, Isaiah,

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<v Speaker 1>was born the week before we left the Seattle, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they and they were so nice and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think Dave I just didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go for that hard riding because he was gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>fired regardless. And it was a hard ride, man, it

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<v Speaker 1>really was. And you know the way that we rallied

0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.960
<v Speaker 1>because we love Coach Bates. Everybody offense, defense, we just

0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.440
<v Speaker 1>love Coach Bates. And he brought a different demeanor, old school,

0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like if you make a mistake and practice, you gotta run.

0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I jumped offside to the fence and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there like what and so but he made

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<v Speaker 1>everybody run to the fence. If you messed up, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you was, it was me and Zach

0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.960
<v Speaker 1>j t didn't matter. You ran to the fence. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know that caught me off guard because

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<v Speaker 1>I was still a young player league and didn't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my my college coach got fired. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>a shot too, when they fired coach Dining. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't this just for you to resign like that in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle season. We were all wondering like and still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day if you talked about it, he just

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<v Speaker 1>quit on us because I mean, hell, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>partners too, you know, you had a partner. All I

0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.480
<v Speaker 1>had a partners too. Of us druggling the way we did,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that that that he is hard. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think if anybody other than coach Bates would have

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<v Speaker 1>got the job, then you know, it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>something different. But because it was, we were cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim Bates certainly helped you guys deliver the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big wins of that era of Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>football on that Monday night game against the Page. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that here in just one second. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the game. We have you on here for

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<v Speaker 1>a great, great reminiscing for sure, Randy. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask about that game against the forty niners,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Dolphins do travel to San Francisco this Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>to take on the forty nine ers, you know, sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years after the fact. I mean, I can't believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>been that long. I'm sure you can't either. It's long time. Beer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking man, looking young. You still you still suit

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<v Speaker 1>him up and go out there and play a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of quarters or what? No, I'm good, I'm over man,

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<v Speaker 1>I still roll out of bed. I saw a comment

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.880
<v Speaker 1>from from Chris from Chambers that said that when Flow

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<v Speaker 1>saw him last, he was like, can you still play

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<v Speaker 1>like dead serious? Like he was always just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>over rocks? No, Yeah, I'm good. So you guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are one and eight coming into this two game

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast Swing, and you drop the game in Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>you come down to San Francisco. You mentioned it. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good nugget there about kind of that time

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<v Speaker 1>to bond. Is that what that week is all about

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<v Speaker 1>is like you obviously you have the same schedule, but

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<v Speaker 1>how much different is it for a team to be

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<v Speaker 1>out on you know, away from home and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in a makeshift practice facility for an entire week. It

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<v Speaker 1>was different, especially coming off that Seattle loss. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a heartbreaking loss, a pick six where I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was a slamp. It was a slamp black combination.

0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.040
<v Speaker 1>To me and Chris Side, he's like dropping a randy

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<v Speaker 1>unless well he didn't want to drop it rand. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to slating to Chris bolwhere kicks it off pick six,

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<v Speaker 1>we lose the game, And so it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>different because a lot of our families went out there

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<v Speaker 1>and we were just in this hotel downtown San Francisco

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.959
<v Speaker 1>going to practice back and forth, and we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>we had to find a way to get get just

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<v Speaker 1>something good to happen, you know, because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>long year. Man, it was. And I tell people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and you know, it's easy to as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan to dump on us and players, but I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you right now you don't feel no worse than we do,

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. And it was a hard trip and for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be out there in San France. Ain't none

0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>for us from out there. It's Thanksgiving weeks or we're

0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.199
<v Speaker 1>not with our families and Thanksgiving and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a bonding moment where we were like, hey man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>either now or never. Let's not go stay out here

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<v Speaker 1>for two damn weeks and not win the football game. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we went together, and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was I think that was our first trip. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my first trip to San Francisco to play the Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was because we went. I mean, we did so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things with Alcatrez and we were playing Have

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you ever been in Alcatraz? You know, they have that

0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.240
<v Speaker 1>little baseball diamond field, So we got to pretend we're

0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>playing baseball and Alcatrez, uh, you know, made the Fisherman's Dwarf,

0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.800
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, doing things as a team, and I

0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.000
<v Speaker 1>think time on that Sunday, where would you be on

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball diamond if that was the career path you chose.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a third base man. I played that hot ConA man. Yeah, yeah,

0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I play I played the hot coner man. Yeah. That's

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.359
<v Speaker 1>these days aren't coming about buns anymore. You can just

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.600
<v Speaker 1>sit back there and pick those one hops off the

0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>off the bat there because you play no doubt about it.

0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm watching my Braves right now, play the Marlins.

0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, they're down four three. I'm looking at

0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it myself right now, so you got to come back.

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Push here. But good stuff, man, um, so you're get

0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in that game. You talked about the bonding experience and

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the desire to get away, which is such an interesting,

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, dynamic. And I'm not going to say that

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>any player has ever thought this, but when the when

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<v Speaker 1>a team gets to one and eight, fans start thinking

0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.440
<v Speaker 1>about where can our draft pick be? Right, Like, that's

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that's common place for a fan, But you guys still

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>have it in the back of your mind, like forget that,

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.600
<v Speaker 1>we want to go and win a football game, and

0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you start hot. It goes to the twenty five yeard

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.200
<v Speaker 1>touchdown pass from Pheely to Chambers. And when you're on

0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.439
<v Speaker 1>a team that has struggled that much, does getting that

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<v Speaker 1>first score, like getting that first lead, does that kind

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.879
<v Speaker 1>of change the mindset of the team. It just helped.

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It did. Man. It's always easier to you know, not

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>don't once you that it's not easier playing with the lead.

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>But it was fun too for something good to happen

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to us. And I think that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things and another funny a j feeling story a

0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 1>j okay so on that past and Chris AJ dislocates

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<v Speaker 1>his finger on his his right index finger right and

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:27.239
<v Speaker 1>literally again he's hobbling about the Fallout past. I were like,

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.159
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is wrong now? Right now? And so

0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll run over there and I'm looking at like what

0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.879
<v Speaker 1>what he points to showing the finger. I said, that's it, Like,

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, And so they popped it back and

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>we go back in and and continue to fight. And

0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, if you look at that game,

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was a complete team for defense

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.000
<v Speaker 1>play lights Out has some good plays on special teams offense.

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<v Speaker 1>We came and showed up and that's why we were

0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.199
<v Speaker 1>able to get that football game. And Randy a lot

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of times in this podcast, I love getting into the weeds,

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the X and those and stuff. I had not more

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>on one of the first Drive Time Flashback podcast we did,

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was breaking down touchdowns the heat score in

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 1>one day night went over the Bears and so that

0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the Nyers come back and put the next ten points

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<v Speaker 1>on the board, and then we come back and take

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a lead with a fifteen yard touchdown pass from yourself.

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you recall that play? Oh? Yeah, it was trips left.

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So we had once we had one receiver backside, we

0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.119
<v Speaker 1>had trips to the to the left side. I was

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the inside receiver closer to the tackle, and then then

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.320
<v Speaker 1>three by one Chris, whoever it was the X was

0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 1>I think what was was it Darius? Then Darius? So whatever,

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.679
<v Speaker 1>he run a takeoff outside release. The inside guy who

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 1>was inside's like he wants up the field outside the

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.680
<v Speaker 1>runs up the field. I run a middle read uh

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>steam route. So basically I'm just going across the formation.

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I go across the formation, I

0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>don't even see the ball lead a J's hand. I

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>just look and there's the ball. I just put my

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>hands and it's stuck to it. And we had me

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and him. That was one thing then AJ had. We

0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 1>had chemistry on that route. And I always knew if

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if he was gonna hit, it was gonna come as

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 1>soon as I got past that linebacker, and as soon

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 1>as I got passed the linebacker, it was it got

0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.880
<v Speaker 1>right there on that fast and touchdown. How long would

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you say that chemistry takes a develop I mean in

0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 1>your in your you know experience from that particular moment,

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>But in general, does that chemistry like that's a big

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>training camp troupe all the times, like, oh they have

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to get this chemistry developed. How long does it truly

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>take for a quarterback and a pass catcher to develop chemistry?

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't even know because I've never

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.439
<v Speaker 1>had a problem. I think that because I know, like

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>my first year in St. Louis, me and Mark Bolgi

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>could never get on the same page, you know, and

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it was the point where you know, like balls, I'm

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 1>open and he wasn't used to throwing the tight ends either,

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>So that I mean, but I think one thing about

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry of a quarterback, you know, pass catcher, it

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.359
<v Speaker 1>starts with your friendship pretty much, and men marketing know

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.199
<v Speaker 1>each other. And I got to, you know, and I

0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.880
<v Speaker 1>had to you know, sit down with him at lunch

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and do all those things, and it eventually worked with

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 1>with j J said. It was different because you know,

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they were putting him in with the first team when

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he got there, so we got a chance to get

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>from biliar with him and how the ball was gonna

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 1>come out of And one thing about him, dude can

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>spend it. He can he can spend the ball. But

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we were still Jameston, we were still you know,

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Jay's I got you know, weren't going away from Jane

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Jay's I do. But at the same time, we knew

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>why they brought A J. Feeley in to be the

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, and so you know, we were still at

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the practice of times catching. You know, he was like Randy,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>but this goes on, I want you to be here here,

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's how it worked like that after a while.

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we were all we were always we liked

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 1>a J a lot, but we were always a feelers.

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>We were always Yeah, and you mentioned the rams. Was

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>that Mike marsh Were you there with Mike Marts? No,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that was that was linehand Okay, I was gonna say,

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, Mike Marts never ran He always ran that

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty personnel pack and so you wouldn't be for those ones.

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But that up in, Yeah, exactly, That's why he learned

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, grew up in so yeah, Yeah, I mean

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the biggest thing with UH, with

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.159
<v Speaker 1>all of us past catcher skilled position players with a

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>J was the you know, because he wasn't a I'm hey, guys,

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 1>come on, let's go out to dinner, Let's go have

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.919
<v Speaker 1>a beer something like that. It was more always us

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.040
<v Speaker 1>a man, come on, let's go over here and describe it,

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>drank real quick, Let's buy a dinner on the road

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and do things. He was that, I mean because he

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was he wasn't a raw rock guy, you know, his shield,

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and we had to kind of bring him along well.

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I worked out there for those for that

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 1>particular game and a couple more wins later in the season.

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And you guys do finish it off with a Derek

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Pope scoop and score from one yard away to give

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you a four teen point lead. Is that kind of

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>when you relax in that game? Yeah? You know, no,

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't ever relax because, especially when you're one and eight,

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you're like, what else can go wrong? You know, That's

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>what that's your thought process. It's like, Okay, this is

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 1>going too good. Something has to go wrong. And it

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't right there, And I mean, and that was a

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>big play by Polk. I think when did it sacked?

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Bumbled by j T? Yeah, it might have been a

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>stackphone by JT. And for Pope, who was a young

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>player himself, scoop and score and we can find a

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>way to get that win, and then you get the

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>long plane ride back home, probably five or four and

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>a half hours or so. I always love asking the

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>question about plane rides home, and this one obviously, you know,

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>you didn't clinch a playoff spot or anything like that.

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.439
<v Speaker 1>You just got your second one of the season. But

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it had to be a fun one, right yo. Yeah,

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, like plane rides, you just have fun. It's

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 1>even more fun when you getta win, though, you know.

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was the biggest thing. And it

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>was a long flight and retired and everybody, you know,

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been out there. We haven't seen our families. But

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you want to talk about a funch for it,

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you get the ball for coach Bates

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And like I said, Candlestick is a just

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a blank hole. It was awful, raggedy field, raggedy locker room.

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>But you can feel when you're in there all the

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>historic San Francisco games or Dallas and Joan Tannada Park

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and all these things. You can build those things where

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you're in there. But we were so happy to get

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the hell out of San Francisco. I love sanc who

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>has a city. But I mean we were so ready

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to get the hell out of there and get back

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to Miami. Well, you certainly know a thing or two

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>about multipurpose fields playing at Pro Player there for so long,

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, Yeah, it's awesome. The renovations. Now

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's incredible. Hard Rock is a freaking Hard Rocks

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>game is a freaking palace. Now it's it's incredible now.

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But I do want to finish up this podcast. You

0:24:58.520 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about Jim Bates a little bit. We talked to

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>about the Monday night, the night that Courage War Orange

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>as it was called. Just talk to us about that

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 1>game briefly here. For us, first of all, we were like,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>we're what, Oh no, they got these orange jerseys for you?

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, you know, and it was you know, we

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>knew our season was over. We knew that, you know,

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And we knew the Patriots who they were, and we

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>knew all about that and everything, and we knew we

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 1>have probably had no chance to win that football game. Well,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a magical night, and I know

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that the stadium was not full, but you couldn't tell

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>us that stadium was not jam packed with Dolphin fan.

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable and for us as a team, because

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a complete team victory, for us as a

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>team to go get that win, and for Darius to

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>catch that ball and for a day to find the

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>match up with Troy Brown being the slot receiver on

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on and it was the same place because I caught

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>touchdown on against San Francisco. It was trips left, I

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>run across, I took the safety with me. Darius Betroy

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>off the ball, A j threw it per quickly and

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it was just a great, uh, you know, great feeling.

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't over yet. Tom Brady still had to

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>dag on ball. But you know, Jason Taylor, being the

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame mad to play Brandon MNDJO picks the

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>ball off and we get to win. And the funniest

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>thing we also talked about the best playing sports and

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>football is big performation, and so we're victory and we're

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like just and I never get riding. The Harrison comes

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>over to it to y'all, still going home, I said,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>but this feelings good tonight though, you know, And that

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.239
<v Speaker 1>was the funny thing. That's exactly yeah, still going I said, Well,

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>but this one feels good right here to night. You

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell us that that wasn't a playoff winning for

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>us right there that night. It was specially that one

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite nights ever playing football. Yeah, twenty four

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>hour ut you guys get to enjoyed for twenty four

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>hours and reality after that. Oh if you don't think

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we told south of each up that night, that's a

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>perfect way. And this podcast, I think five years with

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins, two three receptions for over three thousand

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>yards and eighteen scores in the aquand Orange ran. Thank

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time today, man, I appreciate it.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.199
<v Speaker 1>And so there goes Randy McMichael out one door and

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>then the other, the hosts of the fish Tank podcast.

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Who gets it first this week? Guys, Seth Juice, who

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>wants it first? I don't take it first. I want

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to take it first, especially talking about my man, Randy McMichael. Man,

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>you know that's my that's my guy. That was the

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>best player to ever wear eighty one after myself of course. Um,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny about that, Travis, because it took a

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>little while for Joey and Charlie and the equipment room

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to give that number away to anybody right after I

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was after I was done playing, and so it was.

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I got a phone call from from the equipment room

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>after I was already retired, sitting at home, you know,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>still crying about being retired, you know, being kicked off

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the field, and they said, Juice, we gotta give your

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>number away. I'm like, for real, like I was upset.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>He said, but but this guy is worthy, this guy

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.479
<v Speaker 1>is worthy, He's good. He's gonna represent it well. And

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of course that became random McMichael, and boy did he

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>he represented very well. And then he wound for them

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to make right. It was I don't call you called Juice.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I guaranteed well. And then Randy wound up and I

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>think you guys cover this on the on the episode

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he was on the fish tank. He wound up in

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that Sports illustrated photos of the was it the century

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>or I mean that was That was the craziest image

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. Yeah, the lead the Superman that was

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>at hell. But you know it, what's so funny, people said,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Juice man that pictured he was awesome. I don't even

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>all they see is like they don't even see the

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>hard of the back. I said, I wish that was me. Man,

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>You get that one, Juice and the one where he

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was dancing with the cheerleaders us that Jim all the

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>time and like it's awesome, But that's not juice. That's

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>too good. Well, the reason we had a mom was

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about a game in oh four and Seth

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that, you know, a couple of couple of

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>bad football teams. That was the Dolphins second win of

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that season. They were on the West Coast Swing, and

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Randy talked about, you know, you go out there for

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the double dip on the West Coast and you stay

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>out there for the whole week, and he believed that

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a I don't want to say bonding

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>moment for that team, because they still didn't. They won

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>four games, but he said that that was kind of

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a turning moment. And the reason he thinks they won

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that game is that, I mean, do you recognize that

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>when you go out in those West coach trips and

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>spent a bunch of time with the team and kind

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of get that time together. Well, we didn't. I don't

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>think we ever did that, Juice. When I mean the

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>eight years that I was there, you know, I don't

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think Jimmy. Jimmy definitely didn't do that, and I don't

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>remember Dave doing that unless it was for you know,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>training camp for preseason, So we never had anything like that.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, you would go and you'd get on that

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>plane and come back. But I could totally see where

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a team, when things aren't going right, anything that just

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>breaks that monotony of losing and not feeling really good

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>about yourself. I remember, you know, the year that they

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>went to London, was that was that? And when they

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>went one in fifteen was that a London trip as well?

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that was another moment where a

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams hate that interrupt, that disturbance, that interruption

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in their normal routine because everything is so regimented in

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>football more than any other sport. But but you need

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>an interruption when you're a one in nine team, when

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you're an O and whatever team. I think that sometimes,

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, for those teams, for that group of guys,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>that I could absolutely see where that would be beneficial

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and that would get guys to maybe just relax, maybe

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>get out of South Florida and not have to be

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>scared to go to publics or not want to go

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to the movies because they don't want to be recognized

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and and be you know, asked when you're gonna win

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a game. So I absolutely could see that, and I

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>can imagine juice, right, you're one in nine there, one

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in nine, somebody's gonna have to lose that game, and

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be on that because then you're

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>really you know, now you're you're learning about yourself if

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't beat the one in nine team and you

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>know exactly who you are. So I think that that's

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>why it was probably a big one for those guys. Yeah,

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, you know, you guys, you need

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to spend time together. You know, South Florida is a

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>tough place where you know, when you guys come to

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>work and when works over, they all go different ways

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and they don't get to spend that time to get other.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I think once you get to know somebody off to

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit more, I think you go to

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>battle better for him on the field. And when you

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>go on those trips and you guys are going to

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>eat together, you might go to a movie together. You

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>might be stuff that you wouldn't do at home. You know,

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it does, it does bond you a little bit. But

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>obviously when you get back home, things get back to

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the normal way of doing things. And you know what

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wish it would carry over a little

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>bit more. Look at some of these other cities, like

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about it before, like a Green

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Bay or somewhere there's not much else to do. So

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>guys spent a lot of time together. There's been a

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of time working together. It's it's been a lot

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of time maybe going out to dinner together, and the

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>results come out out on the field that way. You know. Here,

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I just hate to say it, Chad was what she

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>wants to do well, I mean way much, way too

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>much to do. But you also come back to the

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>same problems, right, Like you said, you're one of nine

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't It's like it's like your credit man. It

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>follows you around the grids, so you can't get away

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>from it. But you also mentioned going to battle with guys,

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and and one of the big topics we talked about

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>with Randy was one guy that didn't want to go

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to battle on that West Coast trip, and I'm made

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a joke to him and I said, is the reason

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that wants to resign before that West Coast swing because

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>he just didn't want to go out there and he

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>thought maybe there was other motives involved, but he you know,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a fan of wants as decision to hang

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it up in season. He believed that was a a

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>quitter's mentality, Seth, can you weigh on that? What do

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about the decision to call it quits and

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>no for I mean, that was a tough year for

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>this team. You know, obviously wants to relide on Ricky

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Williams and he calls it a career to day before

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>training camp. We won't get into that again on you, Seth.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Well documented so, but but I mean, what was the

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>what's what's it like in season for for a coach

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to kind of bail like that and the guys just

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to be left to their own devices almost you know, again,

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I never experienced that. I actually, um, that was the

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>first season where I had left and taken the job

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with Jason to run the foundation. I was still very

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>close just again, working with Jason was almost like not

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>leaving in a lot of ways, and and particularly that

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>first year I remained really close with everybody there and

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe because they hadn't heard the Ricky story, so at

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that point I was I was getting the uh. But

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I worked all the games. I helped the PR staff

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>transition Mike Phannick, who is not with Tampa Bay Buccaneers

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and a great PR man, but he had he had

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was an intern who then elevated to to my position.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And UM had the split press box format then, and

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>so I worked. I still worked all of the games

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in that press box, and so I was close and

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>around the team. The one thing I do remember, and

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you know Jason was he was disappointed by Ricky's decision

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and he loved Dave, he really did. He was very

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>loyal to Dave UM and I remember him that he

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>was asked about it and he said, Dave didn't quit,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>he resigned. Ricky quit and there's a difference, So, you know,

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that was his perspective then. But then he

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>also became very loyal to Jim Bates later that year.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>And there's also there's a great I don't know if

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a pregame er postgame interview with j T

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and they asked him about Nick Saban. You know, the

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>rumors swirling about Nick Saban coming to town and he says,

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a damn about Nick Saban, Jim Bates

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 1>is my head coach, and then it became Nick's best friends.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So how the credibility you got to put in all

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of that? But I can imagine where that would be tough, Jeams,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. You clearly never had to deal

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>with that either, um, but at some point, you know,

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes again this whole idea of fresh start, and I

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>think that when coach Bates did get in, we did

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>see a difference in the team's performance. Well, you know,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to think about it, though, Seth is, you know, you

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta coach has been riding you all all training camp,

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>most of the season, you know, about hanging in there,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>being tough, you know, uh, you know, not letting your

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>teammates down, and then you have something like that happen,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I mean, what is that? What are

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you what were you preaching to us about if that's

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>how you're going to handle anything. You know, most coaches

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>don't resign it wait to get fired, you know, dude,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 1>keep doing your job until that you know, your owner

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>says it's time for you to go. You don't just

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, up and leave like that man. So, yeah,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a it's gotta be frustrated on players when you

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>sit there and you're you know, they're going through all this,

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>all these mental toughness things that they go through. How

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they're telling you gotta fight through this injury or a

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>fight through this, you know, whatever is going on at home,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and then they upen and they can bail out and

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>coaches have no uh, there's there's no punishment for coaches

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.919
<v Speaker 1>shutting it down like that. You know, do you think

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that that could be a rallying point juice for guys?

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you know what I wonder and I

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.479
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I have no idea. In fairness to Dave,

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he might have been asked to resign, right, I mean,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't know how that went down. But does that

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>what you're what you're expressing, is there perhaps that sentiment

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>could go through the locker room and maybe even bring

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>guys closer together and rallying. And not that they became

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>world beaters, but when they go three and four, I

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>think at that point, Travis, and so you know, do

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you think that maybe that bombing will hell, we all

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>we got is each other and let's rally behind Jim

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Bates that that could work in their favor. Yeah, I

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>believe so, you know, I've I've had a coach, you know.

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they asked coach Sula to resign at one point,

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe. You know, I'm not sure that says accurate,

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know there's some remmants about that. But he said, no,

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you've got to fire me. I know they asked Joe

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>per turn to a couple of times to resign. He said, no,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to fire me, you know, And uh

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>so that's why they did. They were looking for a

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>reason to firemen. They found a pretty good one obviously.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you, man, these guys, most of

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>these coaches, man, they're they're in it until the end, man,

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>because they know that what they what they put their

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>players through, and they know what it means for those guys.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Um you know, they have their their head man fight

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it out with them. Even when times are rough. Nobody

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>really gets fired when their team is you know, seven

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and one, do they you know what I mean tending

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to you know, it's always all it was. It was

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a tough time. So when you know, when you know

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the tough times come, you hate for see a guy

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>bailt out like that, But it does bond the other

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>guys because what else you have? And bates that guy

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>that looked like he was a guy that you know,

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>they did bring the team together, you know, they did

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>play hard for him, you know, and that was a

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>different story. I'm upset when the guys don't play hard

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>for whoever the head man is. But if you don't

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>have a guy that's got you going, got you motivated,

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>got you inspired, you know, coaches, you know, we we

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>we've heard so many amazing speeches. Man, you just don't

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>know what it takes to get guys going when you

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta coach. Most of the time the talents there, they

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>have to have a guy to put your position to

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>be successful and somebody's that's inspirational. And if that's not

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the case, and you got to move on. If I'm

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, Marty Schottenheimer got fired after a fourteen and

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>two season because he lost in the divisional round. So yeah,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty rare that it happens, but it has happened before.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, though, I guess the stacking up

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>playoff losses gets old at a certain point, I suppose,

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But hey, I'll take fourteen to any day of the week, man.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But um, so you know, Randy talks about this game

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and talked about, um, you know, we

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 1>got into talking talking about Jim Bates and and how

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you mentioned Jason Taylor was a big fan

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of Jim Bates and that seemed to be the entire

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>locker room having that belief and and that was kind

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of where the podcast turned because, like you mentioned, Seth,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of history at this team. We played

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl against this team, but we're not gonna

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>bring that back up. Um, but let's go ahead and

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about maybe next week we have an a FC

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 1>opponent on the dockets. We have some some history with them,

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I know, Juice you've played some games against the

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos for sure. But how about what's coming up

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>this week and what's in the can? I know you

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>guys just had Keith Jackson and the Todd Wade episode

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. What else is coming up here next on

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the fish Tank podcast? Next week really had a great run.

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Todd was amazing, and then Keith Jackson, one of one

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of OJ's favorite teammates, one of my favorite players to

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>watch and Keith was just so much fun to have

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in the tank. Some great stories. Incredibly bright guy and

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>for me, juice and you know, you lived it. You

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>got to experience it and I guess learned from it

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>at that stage of your career. But the stories of

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Keith coming over to the sidelines telling Gary Stevens and

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Danny what he saw and what he thinks should be run,

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>whether it was to him or to somebody else. And

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and the way he would break down the defense like

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback or an offensive coordinator. Where those were absolutely

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>fascinating stories to me. Yeah, and absolutely And and and free

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>agency we talked about it a lot now, you know

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Keith Keith take on free agency that we got what

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the first true free agent really in NFL, I think

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>as he fought it out in the court system to

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>be released from the Philadelphia Eagles, to get an opportunity

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to play where he want to play, and missing the

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>first four games of the season, you know, while he

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<v Speaker 1>waited four court decision to get down here to Miami. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that was awesome stuff as well. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>said he learned the whole playbook in five days by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the week, Like is that really following

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<v Speaker 1>us here. Yeah, right, I don't know. That was tough,

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<v Speaker 1>like two me a year and a half, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it worked out for you. Juice.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about, you know, the eighty one jersey and

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<v Speaker 1>Randy McMichael and stuff. Hey, every day I walk in

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<v Speaker 1>this building, the first jersey I see is Oji McDuffie

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<v Speaker 1>catching the pass that eighty one jersey. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's in a strategic place. I've seen where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's right walking right by those stairs, are

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<v Speaker 1>going in that room. You have to stick at that location, Juice.

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<v Speaker 1>He had. He had the best locker location Travis when

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<v Speaker 1>he played there, and now he's got the best photo

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<v Speaker 1>location in the lobby. That's right. You gotta go right

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<v Speaker 1>at it. Another one going up the stairs, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see me your periphery, but you mind, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go right at it. First I missed it. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to see to walk in one of these days and

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<v Speaker 1>see Juice like you know, um installing like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those lights above it. So that's I got the light on,

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<v Speaker 1>the proper lighting and the proper cleaning and stuff on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there, Oh, j McDuffie and Seth Levitt, the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the fish Tank Podcast. Boys, I really appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>time today. We'll do it again next week. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>man and away they go, Seth and Juice. The fish

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