1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to a pre draft edition 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: of the Falcons Final Whistle Podcast. I'm Scott bar across 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: from Chris rim and Tory mclanny. The usual suspects and 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: how many mock drafts have we done? A billion? Maybe? 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: I think twelve ronts today? Twelve? Yeah, today is Monday. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: On Monday when we are recording this podcast. That's a lot, 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and we go over them too, and we've been talking 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: about the draft forever. Well, finally it's time to make 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: some freaking picks, right yeah. So coming down Thursday night 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: is the first round. Obviously a huge deal. The Falcons 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: have the number eight overall selection and heading into day 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: two they have a bunch of them. They have two 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: in the second round, they have two in the third round. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: And while look, we're going to spend a lot of 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: this time talking about the number eight pick, that's what 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about, right, But I think the 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: interesting thing is not just eight, it's five within the 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: top eighty two. And the possibility is that that creates 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: which is good podcast fodder, you know, because they can 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: do almost anything that they want now. They aren't the 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Jets or the Giants with two top ten picks. Right, 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: that's ideal. But the Falcons have a lot of ammunition, 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: and that's because some of these trades they're finally going 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: to see some benefit from it. From the Julio Jones 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: trade last year, the main piece of that trade is 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: the second round pick from Tennessee. I believe it's number 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: fifty eight. And then the pick from Matt Ryan from 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: the Colts from last month is pick eighty two. That's 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: the fifth pick in in this kind of top grouping 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: over the first couple of days. And while say what 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: you will about the top of this draft class, especially 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks and some other positions, this draft class is deep. 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: There's opportunities to get good players later on. So I 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: guess let's just open it up right there. What kind 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: of possibilities? What can the Falcons do with five picks 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: in the top eighty two over the course Thursday and Friday. 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: They can make some big moves. I think, yeah, I mean, 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: I think the it leaves the door open for a 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of possibilities. You could keep all five and just 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: stockpile positions of need aka wide receiver aka pass rush, 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: but you could also use them as capital to I 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: don't know, move back into the bottom picks of the 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: first round or move down, move up. I mean there 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: are with five picks in the top eighty three overall 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: picks in the draft, you have kind of Terry font 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: who can kind of do what he wants to do 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: in place the picks where he wants someplaced. And I 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: think that's really really important at this point in time. 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: But I also at the exact same time, I think 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: it's really really important that you use all five of 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: those picks and use them well, yeah, I think I 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: think with that amount of capital, you have an opportunity 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: to get a lot of good guys as simple as that, 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Like you can get you know, in the second round, 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you have two picks in the second round, you're not 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: second round. You're drafting for a player you want to contribute, 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, more often not obviously in the first round. 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: It goes without saying, with the exception I guess to 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks you might want to sit them for a 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: year behind someone like with Trey Lance or something like that. 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: But if with two picks in the second round, you're 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: ideally hoping to get one starter out of that or 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: two guys who contribute this season, and then third round 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: as well. You see guys contribute from the third round 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: at least sometimes a year one sometimes and last season 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: everyone was playing, right, I mean, so it wouldn't be 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: so I think you have an opportunity to get a 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: lot of those guys. Like Tori said, you could trade up, 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you could trade back, you could trade for the future. 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: But I think, first of all, with before any of 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: those moves, you have an opportunity to get five players 72 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: who can contribute early, just like you saw guys last 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: year when they didn't have this much capital in the 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: first three rounds. Yeah, and we're gonna talk more in 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: depth about that, including the real possibility that the Falcons 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: could be involved in trades. Everyone thinks about going down, 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: but what about going back up. You guys in in 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: the last mock Draft version twelve point zero, amazingly enough, 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: talked about trading back in like into the first round. 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go over that. We're gonna obviously take 81 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: a close look at that number eight pick and maybe 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: what it could mean for the other picks and where 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: there are some areas of draft class depth where they 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: can pick up good players in the second round. So 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: I voted my handy dandy notebook here. Um, so we 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: can say thank you. That was Alference. That's because I 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: watched children's programming all the time, his kids just by himself. 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you should clarify you you have 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: two kids children. Yeah, and that's why he's watching Blues Clues. Yeah, 90 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: that's definitely it. It's definitely not like it is most 91 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: of the time where my kids are playing in the 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: yard and my wife is still watching the movie, uh 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: Incanto for the forty fifth time. Great movie. Great movie. 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: We don't talk about Bruno here, No, you got me? 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh how I don't know how I transition back to this, 96 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: You know, we do talk about Windows eleven product place 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: and a big thank you to our sponsor Microsoft. 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I 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: was out for the weekend. I let the inmates run 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: the asylum and then I come back in. Desmond Ritter 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: in the mock draft is a falcon and I was like, Okay, 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: you guys just want to watch the world burn and 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: they're like, Scott, it's not at eight okay, chills. Yeah. 112 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: Scott immediately message us when he saw we put it 113 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: in like the headline in our CMS system, and he 114 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: was like, y'all. Literally, He's like, I haven't been gone 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: twenty four hours and you trade up into the bottom 116 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: of the first round now, he said, And Desmond riders gone. 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: I think he's had gone yeah, and he was just 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: gonna watch the world burns the cover photo. He saw 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the cover photos. Desmond, He's like, how dare you? And 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: I was like, look, yeah, let me have some fun 121 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: the draft trade simulators and stuff, and hey, what if 122 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: we trade it up? Theresa h why not? Why not? 123 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I actually told Chris. I was like, I'm going to 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: do it. I was like, watch me, I don't care 125 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: what it is. When we get to like third pick 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: thirty thirty one. I was like, I'm getting back in there. Okay, well, 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: then take me through the logic of why you would 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: want to trade back into the first round pick, maybe 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: why a quarterback or another prize player is there, and 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: maybe kind of why what why Terry and the Falcons 131 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: may want to consider that route as well, right. I 132 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: think it's something we've been talking about this whole offseason, 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: the Falcons having a secession plan for Matt Ryan. Yeah, 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, what if you're in love with 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. I'm not personally, but we're not 136 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: asking my opinion here. We're thinking about what Terry Fontino 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: thinks is the move for the overall help of the 138 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: end longevity of the organization. So what if they like 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: Matt Correll, what if they like Desmond Ritter, And what 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: if those or maliqu willis Atlanta guy that I know 141 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: fans really like. What if the Falcons gave away one 142 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: of their second round picks, one of their third round 143 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: picks and traded with I don't know, Detroit at the 144 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, and what say one of 145 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are there. I think the only reason you 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: would trade back into the first round is if you 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: were going after one of those quarterbacks, because you do 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: get the fifth year option, and it only makes sense 149 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: really for a quarterback. I don't know if it makes 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: sense to go edge a number eight and then trade 151 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: up to get a wide receiver. I mean, I guess 152 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: if you're absolutely in love with the guy, you could 153 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: do that. But I just think there's gonna be wide 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: receivers available to you with that forty third pick, right, Yeah. 155 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I think you're you're going to get a good wide 156 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: receiver there too, if that's what you want. So for me, 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I think if you're if the Falcons are trading up 158 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: into the first round, that means that they would be 159 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: going after a quarterback the way that I see it. Yeah, 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: And if we're talking about trades down, let's say from 161 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: number eight, we've talked a lot about trades and about 162 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: how you can amass more picks. They've got five in 163 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: the top, you know, eighty two. That's a lot. Do 164 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: you want six or seven? Or at some point do 165 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: you think and this isn't necessarily for Falcons fans who 166 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: are thinking only about the twenty twenty two product, something 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: that we don't do a lot around here, that we 168 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: try to think big picture. But if you trade down, 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: is there some attraction Chris in getting twenty three capital 170 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: that you can have maybe that you can build up 171 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: next year's class as well, or are you Are you 172 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: not thinking about that? I think I think you have 173 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: to think think about it. But I think it's all 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: about how the scouts and how personnel the coach's view 175 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: this class versus next year's class. Right, So if you 176 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: think that there are guys next year, if you think 177 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: next year's class is deeper, and you feel like if 178 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: we had five of the top eighty two next year, 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: I like that, Like I feel a lot better about 180 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: that than I feel about having that this year, then 181 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: you do that. You saw the Eagles, for example, traded 182 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: they had three first round picks and essentially traded to 183 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: get one next year. That kind of says maybe they're 184 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: looking at something next year, maybe they like something next year. 185 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: But I think people have gotten kind of super focused 186 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks at the top of the draft next year, 187 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like everyone wants those guys. You 188 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: have to be really really bad to probably get one 189 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: of those guys or trade a lot to get up. 190 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a safe bet or a 191 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: smart bet to say, oh, we're just gonna put all 192 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: our eggs in that basket for Stroud or Young or 193 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: another guy who's you know, undoubtedly will become great next 194 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: year and we'll be at the top of the class. 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: So I think ultimately it's just how they view the 196 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: class now, how the outside of us the class. Now 197 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: the media use a class. If they liked this class 198 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: and they think it's a deep class, wherever, as you 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: know many think is deep edge and wide receiver, if 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: they think is deeper than next year, then I think 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: it makes sense and you should be confident in having 202 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: those picks. But Tory just raised your hand. I also 203 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: think to go off of that, it's almost you have 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: to look at next year's class. Quarter If we're talking 205 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, you have to look at next year's class too. 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: But I am also team trade for a quarterback who's 207 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: already established for a veteran qu veteran quarterback in the 208 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: overall league, yeah, for sure. And I think because of 209 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: you look at the scope of the league in the 210 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: last five years, and we have seen so many big 211 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: time quarterback trades in five years time, and It is 212 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility in my mind 213 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: that the Falcons have a veteran in mind more than 214 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: building it up through the draft, if they're wanting to 215 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: be competitive immediately. That's kind of the way that I 216 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: think you go about doing that is you and the 217 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Falcons will have a lot of cap space, like over 218 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: one hundred million supposedly, So if you look at that, 219 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: you have the money to go out and get a 220 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: guy that you want. You probably will have the draft 221 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: capital or to go out and get the guy you want. 222 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: If there's someone that you love, go get him in 223 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: whatever capacity you have to do it. Go. Okay, we're 224 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna debate now, Oh, this is gonna be fun. When 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback in the first round and you're 226 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: paying him, even if it's the first pick, and you're 227 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: paying him on a rookie deal, that's like hitting the lottery. Right. 228 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Then you can use that money on building everything up. 229 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: If you trade for maybe somebody who's not in love 230 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: with their situation. I don't know details about it. I'm 231 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: just gonna say Kyler Murray out loud, okay, but you know, 232 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: if it's something like that, and then you gotta go 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: pay that dude market rate, which is a lot of 234 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. As we've seen, we're talking about heavy nine figures. 235 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Then you're having to you have less freedom to build 236 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: up the roster around you. That is the counter argument 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: to what you're saying. Now, we've seen it work a lot. 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Tennessee is the most obvious one. The Arthur Smith connection. 239 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: You look at Ryan Tannehill, come in, make some pretty 240 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: legit pretty fast. Him and Derrick Henry have a good 241 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: thing going. But that's what I worry about. Now. You 242 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: could come right back at me. I'm gonna argue with 243 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: myself now, right, just keep going back and forth, where 244 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: basically you could say, if you screw up the quarterback 245 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: pick early, then you've made it worse for yourself because 246 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: now you're two or three years invested in a guy 247 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: who may not be getting paid very much, but is 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: also not helping you win. Right, But also if you 249 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: if you, if you do mess the quarterback pick up, 250 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: I think the part about these disgruntled quarterbacks, they're not 251 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: your team has to be attractive for the quarterback to 252 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: not be also disgruntled here or to even approve the 253 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: trade to come here. Right, you know what I mean 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: right now? I think next year, do we think the 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to be in a position where a 256 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: QB looks and says, oh, I can go there, Because 257 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: that's what's happening now. Qbs are kind of picking places 258 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: and saying I can go there. They're a quarterback away 259 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: from contending. So even if you miss on a quarterback, 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: as long as you're building around that position, you have 261 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what O line is, solid wide receivers, the 262 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: defense is coming together. If you miss, you could still 263 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: bounce back and get one of those guys who will 264 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: undoubtedly become available. Because that's just like what's happening across 265 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: the league right now. Right, Okay, So let's just stay 266 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: on the quarterback theme here, right. So, and I'm looking 267 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: right at Tory because she's been she's been the resident. 268 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: Don't draft a quarterback? Okay, So I assume that's at eight. 269 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Does that mean through eighty two? Also, kind of what's 270 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: your your stance on that? Does that change as we 271 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: go through the draft. Yeah, I'm anti taking a quarterback 272 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: at eight. I'm not anti taking a quarterback down at 273 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: a road. Yeah, Okay, I think it's okay if you 274 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: use one of the seconds or one of the thirds. 275 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I say one of the seconds more than one of 276 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: the thirds. But if you use any of the one 277 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: of those four picks that you have in on Day 278 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: two for a quarterback, I'm okay with that. I don't 279 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: know if I'm happy about it. I don't think I am. 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm happy about it, but like I 281 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: could understand the reasoning of that, and again, I just 282 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: keep going back. I just I think the Falcons, if 283 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: they're drafting a quarterback, they have to absolutely believe in 284 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: him one hundred and ten percent. And I just feel like, 285 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: and this is I feel bad saying this because I 286 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: want I want to see the success of players at 287 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: any level that care a lot about the game. But 288 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I am not sold on this quarterback class. I'm just not. 289 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: I haven't been from the beginning. And I hope they 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: prove me wrong. I hope they go out and I 291 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: hope they have fantastic careers in the league. But I 292 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the Falcons in Atlanta right now, 293 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: and it would worry me, and it would feel like 294 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: this would be a reach. If you're going quarterback, it 295 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: feels more of a reach than it would be to 296 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: go edge wide receiver. Tackle these positions that you know 297 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: you have to fix and you have to build depth 298 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I mean I think I think for me, 299 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: it would depend on who's there in the second round, 300 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: Like if who would you be willing to take in 301 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: the second round if they were there? Malik? Yeah, I 302 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: think I agree with that. Yeah, I think if Malik 303 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: was there in the second round, I'd be fine with that. 304 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, I think there's a I 305 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: think there's a lot to like about a lot of 306 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: these guys, like specifically, like you know, Desmond, there's a 307 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: lot to like about the guy who's six four, who's 308 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: won a lot, who runs a four four, who can 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: make all the throws. You know, there's also you know, 310 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: accuracy and consistency concerns, but there's a lot to like 311 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: about him too. You know, I think I wouldn't be 312 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate that. So and you think about you 313 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: know who he compares himselves to all the time, Ryan 314 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Tannehill and you know, some other quarterbacks to like with 315 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: the dynamic ability. But yeah, I think my number one 316 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: would be, like if Malik's there at forty three, you 317 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: take a guy who has a super high ceiling and so. 318 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm not sure. I mean, I 319 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: also think Matt Carroll has has some high highs. I 320 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: really liked him. I think he has been team Matt 321 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Crow for a little bit. Yeah, I think I think that. 322 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: Not to go on Tangier, but thinking about I watched 323 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: him throw six picks against LSU I think it was 324 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: like two years ago, and then he threw like he 325 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: had I don't know how any picks he had in 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the season. He had eleven picks in two games. Last 327 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: year only had five interceptions. But it's just like that 328 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: just stays in my mind, like it's the same thing 329 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: McKenny pickett, Like, was last year you or was that 330 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: flashing the pan? Or are you what's your decision making? 331 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you gonna throw thirteen picks in the 332 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: right NFL hitting a game or something? Yeah. So I 333 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: just go back and I think about it, and I 334 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: feel like, if you're going to invest in a quarterback 335 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: that you believe could be a franchise guy, that's generally 336 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: a first round pick, And as you go through it, 337 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, do I want a draft and develop 338 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: quarterback at I don't know fifty eight, or do I 339 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: want Isaiah Spiller? Right? You know, I start comparing, do 340 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: do I want a quarterback that may or may not 341 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: be the guy? Or do I want Pickens or Dylan Parnham, 342 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: like a solid offensive guard or an an offensive tackle 343 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: or another one of my draft crush is Cameron Thomas 344 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: from San Diego Stage. Yeah, and I think that goes 345 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: if we're talking about that, it goes against if the Falcons, 346 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: in my opinion, we're to go quarterback. It goes against 347 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: kind of what Terry Fontineau has said since he's gotten 348 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: here where he's like, we are I think draft best 349 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: player available? Are we for sure certain to feel confident 350 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: in saying that one of these quarterback is the best 351 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: player available at the time the Falcons pick wherever it 352 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: is they pick, right. I don't know if I could 353 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: say that, especially considering that you also, in the back 354 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: of your mind have to think about the needs that 355 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: you do have. I know no one wants to say 356 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: draft for need, but the Falcons have so many needs 357 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: that you it's like, whoever you take is going to 358 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: fill a need on this roster right over time, especially 359 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: because we've always kind of looked at this as this 360 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: isn't I think. I brought it up and I stood 361 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: corrected as I said that this is their last chance, 362 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: to their last major chance to improve the twenty twenty 363 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: two product, Like obviously they can still sign guys, but 364 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: like this is a big moment to help this product. 365 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: And you guys were kind of like, okay, sure, like 366 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: that's true, but how can they help this roster grow 367 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: and evolve right through twenty two and twenty three and 368 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: create the roster depth that is required? You know, And 369 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: I covered the Raiders for a long time. I have 370 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: a lot of stories about them, but I always go 371 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen when they were zero and ten, 372 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: finished three and thirteen fired a coach. Is bad of 373 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: a season as you can have. But every week they 374 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: had Khalil Mack and Derek Carr on the top of 375 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: their of that draft class, and you could tell something 376 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: was there. And if you can come out of now 377 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: there's a quarterback involved, a second round quarterback, nonetheless, but 378 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: you can find those players for the fan base to 379 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: get excited about, and you could see something being built. 380 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I think that we want to see, 381 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: right is something positive being built this foundation, being expanded 382 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: and being fortified. Of course, all that starts right, all 383 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: these things that we're talking about, trade up, trade down, 384 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: make your five picks, and develop those guys and go 385 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: to battle with them. It all starts at number eight, right. 386 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: So much talk about team needs, Well, after number eight, 387 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: that team needs thing is going to get adjusted a 388 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Now. We've talked a lot about who they're 389 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: going to take at eight. I'm not asking necessarily for 390 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: bold predictions, but you look at what could be a 391 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: very early run on edge rushers. We talked about wide receivers, 392 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. Can we just say he's not gonna be 393 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: there at this point? I mean, I don't know if 394 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there. I think if you go 395 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: really really heavy edge rusher right off the bat and 396 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: really heavy offensive tackle off the bat, I think things 397 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: can happen. Yeah, I think he could fall. Yeah. I 398 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: think eight is a weird spot. It is, right, there's 399 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: a possibility that like seven, like seven guys, I mean 400 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: there'll still be like maybe there's Charles Charles car but 401 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: he could be going to like there's a chance that 402 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: the four edge right, well, in that scenario, Sauce would 403 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: be there, but there's a chance that the top three 404 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: or you have four edge got top four edge guys ago, 405 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: the top two tackles go and Sauce goes. Right, So 406 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean Charles people, Charles cross to be, you know, 407 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: a good talent too, so he's a guy there. But yeah, 408 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I think I always envisioned the Jets taking Sauce at 409 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: four if he I mean may if he gets past four, 410 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: then then he will be there at eight. But yeah, 411 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like a tough spot because it's like 412 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about on our last podcast. They the difference 413 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: between the fourth edge guy verses fourge wide receiver, right, Yeah, 414 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot different. Sure, so yeah, yeah, No, what 415 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is like, there are seven picks math, 416 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: which I'm not particularly good at, but I just did some. 417 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: There are three top offensive tackles, there are four top 418 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: edge rushers. That is seven picks. You go off for 419 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: all seven off the board. Sauces there at eight. Yeah, 420 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that happens, but the math checks 421 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: out thing it does. And eight is an awkward spot 422 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: because if you're let's say the Giants at five, you 423 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: feel pretty good that if you really want an edge rusher, 424 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna get one of these top three. You you 425 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: at least feel that that way, or but at eight, 426 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you're getting maybe right, all four ad 427 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: dressers are gone, all three tackles are gone. Kind of 428 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: the things get weird. You're kind of subject to what's 429 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: happening above you with that spot. I look a lot 430 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: at it, and I tweeted it the other day, and 431 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, of course, you get lots of positives and 432 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: negatives when you tweet anything but them. I didn't watch 433 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: Florida State during season, I'll admit, but I've watched a 434 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of Jermaine Johnson since. Yeah. I like him and 435 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: I like the way he plays, and I think he's 436 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: one of those guys that could be there for you. 437 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: And if we're talking about ticking off a number of 438 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: different things right, scheme, fit and positional need and how 439 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: that sets you up down the road, right, that that 440 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: may be a spot where you can go get something 441 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, we've talked a lot about not 442 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: drafting for position right, but it seems like if they 443 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: if you can go get one of those top four 444 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: edge rushers, you probably do it. Yeah, I would. I 445 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: look at it like with Jermaine Johnson. Yeah, I know 446 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: he's not Trayvon Walker and he's not Ian Hutchinson and 447 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: he's not Cavon Thibadeaux. But he's right there, he's not 448 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: like I like, you know, I was gonna say, I 449 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: mean he was. I think the whole thing with Trayvon 450 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: Isy was banking on what he can be like right 451 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: versus Jermaine already is already is that he was one 452 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: of them, like out of the let's cut you up, 453 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: out of the group, he was like the most productive 454 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: behind Aiden or right right there, he was the best 455 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: in acc So it's like this, this guy's kind of 456 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: more polished than than like a Treyvon. Yeah. I think 457 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: that people kind of look at Treyvon and it's like ooh, 458 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: the like the flash of ooh, this is interesting. He's different. 459 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: But but like you're what you're saying, like, Jermaine is 460 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: good in his own right. And I think that he 461 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: looked you're talking about scheme fit, I think, and I 462 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: think that's something we've talked about where he looks like 463 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a Dean Peace guy, right, Like he looks like a 464 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: guy that Dean Peace would like a lot and if 465 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: that's if it comes down to it and you're looking, 466 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it's between in my personal opinion, Jermaine Johnson, 467 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Charles Cross, Sauce, I think those are the three. I 468 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: don't put Kyle Hamilton in there because I and I 469 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna be like, how dare you? But 470 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't put Hamilton in there. I think those three 471 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: are going to be there, and I think those three 472 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: are the ones that they make key in on. I 473 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: think Sauces there, Sauce is coming to Atlanta. Yeah, I 474 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: think so, oh yeah that question. Yeah, I'm saying like 475 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: if like those three, like if any of those three 476 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: or there, they would have an interest in Yeah for sure. Yeah. 477 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean Sauce Gardner as well. Six three didn't allow 478 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown. I don't know. He looks like he was 479 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: created in a lab, right, which I don't think is 480 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: my quote. I think maybe Desmond Ritter said that, right, 481 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that that heah right? Um, but yeah, you think 482 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: about what you can get at eight, right, And I 483 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: don't know so many mocks bring Garrett Wilson or a 484 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver to that spot because of the obvious need there. 485 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: But Chris is as as you pointed out that if 486 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: we're moving down from eight, right, because obviously, if if 487 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: we were all thinking ideally you take a a player 488 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: like Gardner, you go get an edge rusher, all right, Well, 489 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: then what do you do it at forty three? It 490 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: seems like that there are there's some receiver depth where 491 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: you can maybe come away with at number forty three, 492 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: a pretty darn good impact player at that at that 493 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver spot. Kind of uncertain how everybody's gonna pick them. 494 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Who's gonna be left on day two? Yeah, I guess 495 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: the challenge with banking on that too is like what 496 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: if you aren't and it just goes wide receiver frenzy 497 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: in that's possible too exactly. But I still think there 498 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: are there's been like ten guys who in their ranking, 499 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: like in the in the bottom half of that group obviously, 500 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: like after Pickens, when you talk about like Calvin Austin 501 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: from from that in that group, there's like four guys 502 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: who are ranked around the same level. You get one 503 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: of those guys later in the second who you still 504 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: would be comfortable with. But again, like I was saying, 505 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: like a guy like George Pickens, who's been projected to 506 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: go like second round. I think he's a guy who 507 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: if he played more, he would be a surefire first 508 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: round pick, but he only paid like twenty four games. 509 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: So you have guys like that, like Christian Watson and 510 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, who knows where he ends up. Like Scott said, 511 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: he's his stocks going up. His agent might be doing 512 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work. Is that a hustling Yeah, there 513 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: were some videos this morning too of him doing was 514 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of shocked to see that a little bit, which 515 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: is exactly what you want four days before the draft, 516 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: be like, hey man, he might go at ten. You 517 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: might have to trade up to get that guy. But 518 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: he's another intriguing prospect. I think there's a lot of 519 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: them in that cluster, in that first to second round 520 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: that you would think, unless there's an absolute frenzy, you'd 521 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: feel confident getting one of those um as. Like as 522 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: we moved through the draft, right, we talked so much 523 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: about about wide receiver and edge rusher. Right, I mentioned 524 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: running back offhand. If you look back at the top 525 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: of eighty two picks on Saturday, is there a position 526 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: I know we don't like to do. Position you know, 527 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: best player blah blah blah. But where if they don't 528 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: get it, let's say a running back, or they don't 529 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: get a tackle, they don't get a guard where you're like, oh, 530 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: if that was a missed opportunity, Like, are there any 531 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: must haves in the high group the trenches? Yeaheah, just 532 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: just keep building up there, any anybody on the line 533 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, Yeah, that's what I yeah, yeah, and that's all. Yeah, 534 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: that's okay to add you know, to add another big body, 535 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: nose tackle or I think adding an offensive guard. Let's 536 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: add some competition there. You're gonna have to look long 537 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: term it a tackle. So it sounds like, go get 538 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: your wide receiver, Go get your edge rusher if you can. Yeah. 539 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: And it's weird because I was breaking down all of 540 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. I'm like, hey, like there's a lot of 541 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: talent there, um, but that's that's like positional strength at 542 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. I actually don't think quarterback a cornerback 543 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: is a significant need because I do like Casey Hayward 544 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: a lot, and you have him to two years. So 545 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: I think that the Casey Hayward aj Terrell pairing is 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: going to be really good, good. I'm looking forward to 547 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: seeing that. So I don't really put cornerback that high. 548 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: The only reason I say cornerback is because Sauce is there. 549 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we've been beating Sauce's name into the 550 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: ground in this podcast, but that would be the only reason, 551 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: because I think he's like that best player available at 552 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: that point if you wrote, right, yeah, So I think 553 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: that if you can come away with that and really, 554 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: um again, it's one of those opportunities that the Raiders 555 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen is the one that I always use. 556 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles in twenty eighteen had, like they 557 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: extended four guys in like in their draft class. The 558 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Saints had one where you can get one of those 559 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: foundational draft classes that even if it doesn't include a quarterback, 560 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: very clear, we don't think it should that that that 561 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: that you can get the fan base excited in those 562 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: individuals and what they can produce for the team. And 563 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: going back to what we've all been saying, right is 564 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: that you and what Terry and Arthur have been saying 565 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: since we all got here, you know, is that they 566 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: need to build up this team to help whatever quarterback 567 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: they have right now, that's Marcus Mariota. And the thing is, 568 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: Marioda is you gotta see what Mariota does. Y. Ryan 569 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Tannehill wasn't guy, right, I mean still Ryan Tanhill is 570 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: still not you know, but he wasn't you know what 571 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, He wasn't Tennessee's guy. He became the guy 572 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: because he stepped in from Marcus and he did more 573 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: than was expected. But I think again, don't count out 574 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Marcus shocking everyone and becoming guysn't started in two years. 575 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: So yeah. The thing is is, like I think, for 576 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's always the situation that you come into. Yeah, 577 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: if you have a good situation around you, it's really 578 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: easy for you to be good. Yeah, and I think 579 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: that Marcus will have an opportunity. He's supremely motivated. Everything 580 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: I heard about his time with Las Vegas was really positive, 581 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: and I think that he's still an athlete. He was 582 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: still drafted number two for a reason. Build up the 583 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: team and the defense around him, give him a shot, 584 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: and then in six months, see where you're at. So 585 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: that's our grea truth. Um If Terry and Arthur, if 586 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: you could just go ahead and follow that blueprint, I 587 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: think that we'll be in it. Just give us credit. 588 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah uh so, anyway, thank you guys so much for 589 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: joining us for this episode of Falcons Final Whistle presented 590 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: by Windows eleven. Uh you know what to do right, 591 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe, and there's one more step this time. 592 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Can you please go and download the episode of the 593 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Falcons Audible podcast presented by AT and T. It's going 594 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: to be a good one heading into the draft. Those 595 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: guys know what they're talking about. 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Big week for the Falcons, 606 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Big week for the NFL. Who are they going to 607 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: take at eight? We're gonna find out really soon.