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The 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to the listener 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: about career and natural planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the art, 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and how to live a balanced life. My next guest 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: is on the phone. My next guest is a mental 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: health advocate and the founder of Silence the Shame is 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization that focuses on education and awareness around 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: mental health. Before she found it Silence the Shame, she 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: worked in the entertainment business for over twenty five years, 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: where she worked directly with some of the music business 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: top talent like Outcast, Ussher, Prince, TLC, Tony Braxton, Erica 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: Barnet and excuse Me, Erica Bardou and many more. She 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: has no show today to talk about and share her 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: journey with her own emotional health and wellness that she 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: wants to help change the world and make it, make it, 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: make people understand the struggle with something that we all 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: can help and make this global movement something that everybody 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: should have been be a part of. Please work on 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: the money making conversations. The founder of Silence the Shame 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Shanty does hello, Sean. How you know miss Doss dos 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Effects as you said, dos Effects. Well you got that 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: little cool name though you know people are a little 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: rapper name, little rapper name I have. They're wrapping up 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: the game and mental health and mental health advocate. You know, 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for coming on the show. 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: And now when this when this interview was brought to 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: me um because I felt it was important that I 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: made time and got it into my schedule because I 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: had to move some things around. Because within the black community, 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: though the community of color, you know, we're always the 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: last to admit were we last admit. That's why we 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: always pop up on HIV. We're always popped up on poverty. 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: We're always right now with the pandemic. We're losing lives 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: faster and the color community than anyway because we when 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: when the gay community, we want to acknowledge that. And 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: so especially when you're talking about mental health, that's another 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: leg of the information length pipeline that we want to 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: like ignore that it's important that we accept and get 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: it to responsibility of that. Tell us about your journey. 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: This is a long interview, but I want you to 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: start telling us about the journey where you had to 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: open up and and and and about your it's it's depression, right, yes, yes, yes, 75 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: talk about that. So so Rashan, first of all, thank 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: you for having me on the show. And what you're 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: saying is it's a hundred percent right. Oftentimes in the 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: African American community, with the last one to talk about it, 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: we don't address it. Before I share a little bit 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: about my journey. I'll just tell you a quick statistics. 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: African Americans are more likely to have more serious psychological 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: distress and white adults, and our African American teenagers are 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: more likely to attempt suicide than white teenagers at eight 84 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: point three percent versus six point two percent. So Rashwan, 85 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I grew up, you know, in African American culture. Obviously, 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: my mom's black. My dad was actually Indian, but he 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: took his own life when we were when I was 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: seven months old, and so he left my mom and 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: my two siblings and I we went to counseling. We 90 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't talk about it as a family. The fast forward. 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I had this great career in music, but I had 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: all this trauma built up from my childhood that I 93 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: had never addressed. So when I started dealing with my 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: own high levels of stress and anxiety, it then turned 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: into depression. And I finally went to counseling in my 96 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: thirties to try to deal with this um But I 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: did not stick with counseling one because I don't know. 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Working in the music industry, I thought if I was 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: shaping the careers of all this artists, I didn't meet 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: nobody to fix me right, I could do it myself. 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: It was my ego. But but that was wrong, and 102 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: I wish I would have done counseling UM more consistently 103 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: back in the day. And so fast forward to uh 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: the year teen, my best friend took her own life 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: and I blamed myself for her suicide. And then in 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: two Rashawn I came really close to taking my own life. 107 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: I had just kind of gone into a downward spiral. 108 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: My mother had Alzheimers, I had some health issues, I 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: had some financial struggles I was going through, and it 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: just kind of all came to a head. And that's 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: why I started silence a shame so that I could 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: one get my own help and help other people UM 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: to really focus on their mental health. What exactly is depression? 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: I guess that's the courtion. I need that because that 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot of us to understand if we if we 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: have some of the qualities that we should be aware of. 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: So in terms of some of the symptoms of depression, 118 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, I like to say, UM that it really 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: depends on your overall behavioral patterns. That's why oftentimes you 120 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: hear people refer to it as behavioral health as opposed 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: to mental health. Now. Some of the symptoms can be 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: feeling sad or having a depressed mood, loss of interest 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: or pleasure, and activities that you once enjoy, um, changing appetite, 124 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: weight loss or gain unrelated to dieting where you can't 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: really put your finger on while you're losing so much weight. UM, 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: if you're having too much trouble sleeping at night, if 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: you're feeling worthless or guilty. Because like for me, Rashawn, 128 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, maybe God, we've done with me. 129 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know, everything that I needed to 130 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: do on this earth was done. So I had prolonged 131 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: feelings of hopelessness. Um, I didn't really want to hang 132 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: out with friends anymore. I didn't even want to wake 133 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: up honestly and open the blinds in the morning. And 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I also started using, um, you know, alcohol sometimes as 135 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: a coping mechanism, which we know is a natural depressant, 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: and so some of those social drinks you know, started 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: making me feel even more depressed. And so I just 138 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: did not have any healthy coping mechanisms. And of course 139 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: stops of suicide or death is an obvious sign of depression. Well, 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: you know the thing about it, is that. Let's let's 141 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: talk about your journey, because see sometimes when we just 142 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: on a mission and our goals or just to get 143 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: to a certain place. Because you went from an intern 144 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: to executive VP and including positions that Capital Records, the 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Face Records, Columbia Records, Sony Urban Music, and Universal Motown. 146 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: So these are not these are these are these are 147 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: what they're called top of the food chain opportunities and 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: so and so when you when you're grinding, you can't 149 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: ignore you can't ignore symptoms because you said, I'm on 150 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: a mission. Let me just that's not important to me 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: right now? So when did this start being important to 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: you to understand what was going on in your personal life? 153 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure these depression are anxiety symptoms as affected 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: your relationship not only personally but business wide as well eventually, right, 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh sure, So I think the first time, Rashaun, that 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I probably recognized that I might have UM an issue 157 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: going on personally. Within two thousand one, it was when 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: um Face Records baby Face in l A sold the 159 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: company UM to b MG, and so l A Read 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: moved to New York to replace Clive Davi. That's an 161 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: heres the records and so I was in more of 162 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: a corporate setting. It was a high stressed environment. You 163 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: know how it is when one regime comes and there's 164 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: another regime, uncertainty at uncertainty and friction, and everybody's trying 165 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: to job for their position. So you know, I wasn't 166 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: trying to run to l A with all my problems 167 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: and issues. But I didn't have an outlet, and I 168 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: didn't even recognize that I could have reached out to 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: HR to find you know, UM, any sort of resources 170 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: UM from a therapy perspective. And so I remember one 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: day I was so frustrated and I was on the 172 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: phone with my sister and my boyfriend and I said, 173 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, I can't really take this pressure anymore. I 174 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: don't know how to handle it. Maybe I should just 175 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: kill myself. That scared me to death, Rashawn, because you know, 176 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: I did not have a plan at that time, but 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: the fact that I even uttered those words, and it 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: was something that my dad had actually done, it really 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: terrified me. And my sister was like, well, first of all, 180 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get through this, even she got down down, 181 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna deal with this. But second of all, you 182 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: gotta go to therapy that when shortly there after Rashawn 183 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: I went to therapy and addressed the issue of my 184 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: father's suicide because I never wanted to even utter those words. 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: So I think that was probably the first time in 186 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: my early thirties when I started addressing emotional health and 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: wellness in the right way. We're speaking to Shunti doss uh. 188 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I would say her name is like a rapper, you know, 189 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: but she's an advocate of mental health and she's also 190 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the founder of Sounds a shame. Now, really, when I 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: look at my life, I've I've always had a pretty 192 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: intense life, Shanti and so and sometimes it feels like 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: the whole world's on me. I have a have a 194 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: What has saved me is that on my property in 195 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta have a little lake where I can go down 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: and I can just look at the world. I always 197 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: told my wife the water. Yeah, the water saves me 198 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: because just watching those ripples and I can see little 199 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: minnots and fish and frogs jumping around, it calms me down. 200 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: And so so it also so that that's an outlet 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: that kind of saves me from just going to the 202 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: next level. Because, like you said, when people when you 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: reach a certain portion of certain point in your career, 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: especially if your minority, and not many people you can 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: go talk to you, and then there's not many people 206 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: you want to show flaws or showing weaknesses too. So 207 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times you just keep it all on yourself. 208 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: And so so you gotta have that outlet. And I'm 209 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: just letting you know my outlet for me that saved 210 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: me was that water. It was going down there. I 211 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: have a rock. I potentially put that rockets, and I 212 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: just want to put a big rock so I can 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: sit on this rock whatever I sit down there, if 214 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: I feel like fishing, it just saves me and calls 215 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: me down. But that's one of the principles of being 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: able to deal with anxiety, being able to deal with 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: depression mechanisms, and and so so I I naturally, I'm 218 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: not saying I'm a depressed person. I'm not saying that 219 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: I have anxiety values or symptoms. I'm just saying that 220 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: we all get to that point where the world can 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: jump on you. Where do you go to escape or 222 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: cope with it? So that's that's great. I'm glad you 223 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: brought up water because you know, psychiatrists and Therapists have 224 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: often talked about how water in the ocean or even 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a lake can just have a calming effect on your 226 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: mind because it puts you in a just a really 227 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, mouth state of mind and kind of helps 228 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: to recenter yourself for what we like to call those 229 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: healthy coping mechanisms or forms of self care. There are 230 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of different things you can do in terms 231 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: of self care. For me, it's like, I would like 232 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: to take a walk in the park. You know, I 233 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: lost my sister unexpectedly last year, and so this week 234 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: was her one year anniversary, and so I found myself 235 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of in a way feeling a little anxious. So 236 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: I just got out of the house and went and 237 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: took a you know, one hour walk in the park, 238 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: and it just made me feel so much better. You know. 239 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: I like the nature in the in the trees, and 240 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: the wind was blowing, and it was just a great 241 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: day for me to be out in nature. Other people 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: like to exercise because it's been proven scientifically that when 243 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: you get your endorphins going, it actually puts you in 244 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: a better mood, you feel better about yourself. Also, having 245 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, a proper diet, because oftentimes there are certain 246 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: foods that we can eat UM that can weigh down 247 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: on us UM and certain fatty foods that can cause 248 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: us to become depressed depressed, so we recommend that you 249 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: have a healthy diet UM. Also, you know, taking naps, 250 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: getting adequate sleep is extremely important and that UM leads 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: to overall health and wellness. So it's a lot of 252 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: different things. And I tell people like you like the lake, Rashaan, 253 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: you gotta do what works for you, right, take a walk. 254 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: You know you might not like the walk, but you 255 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: would like to dance zoomba zoom zoomba peloton. Might want to, 256 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, log on the club Quarantine and party with 257 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: me whatever it is. Well, you know the beauty of 258 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: this conversation that we're going to continue in the next break, 259 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying talking to Sean Titas, you know, the founder 260 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: of Silence the Shame. She's creating a global movie. We're 261 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: gonna talk about big event that's coming up because May 262 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: is National Mental Health Month, correct and Awareness Month. And 263 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: then also she has a big guy just say, a fundraiser. Uh, 264 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: this happened in May. Fifth We're gonna talk about that 265 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: the next break. 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R dot AI. 306 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: How you doing is Rashan McDonald. You're listening to the 307 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: money making conversations. I have the founder of Silence to Shame, 308 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Shanty Dots. That's right, Shanty Dowson is on the show 309 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: today and she's talking about you know, May is Mental 310 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Health Awareness Month and National Silence. The same day is Tuesday, 311 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: May fifth. That day, Silence of Shame will be hosting 312 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: the Big Texa Thon. Why it's important that this Big 313 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Texa Thon is happening. I know about the awareness, but 314 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: what what what what is being accomplished with the Big 315 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Texa Thon. So we're really excited about the texason UM. 316 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: It allows the Silence to Shame to raise funds for UM, 317 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: an increase in our programs, resources and scholarship funds that 318 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: we're putting together. And we are also planning to donate 319 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: a portion of the proceeds Rashan to some UH therapists 320 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: so that they can provide free therapy during the pandemic 321 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: for some of their clients. And that's been a rubb 322 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: noticing a lot a lot of more mental health experts 323 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: have been coming on national platforms, local platforms, because it's 324 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a stress that it's not normal 325 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: for everybody. I know times that and I'm a guy 326 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: who's go oriented and not sit around the house and 327 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: go what I'm gonna do. And I've I've had to 328 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: include I've had to include exercise in my life. I 329 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: had to include I put more of a routine. I 330 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: have to develop at home routine to be able to 331 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: get me through there. Uh, just walking around my yard, uh, 332 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: listening to music more. These are the things that have 333 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: like calmed me down. And I think that's what we're 334 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: talking about, calming your your inner being down, your emotions 335 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: down so it doesn't go spike. And that's what I've 336 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: been trying to avoid. It's just usually a natural process. 337 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't don't have these techniques 338 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: worked out like I've worked out myself. How can they? 339 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: It is there is there is there a website they 340 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: can go to that you guys have found. It was 341 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: talked to us about those those different techniques, so you know, 342 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of really great resources out there. 343 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: We um if you go onto silence shame dot com 344 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: and go under um how to get help or resources. 345 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: We have organizations that we partner with like NAMI, which 346 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: the National Alliance on Mental Illness. They have a lot 347 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: of great resources out there, also psychology, Psychology Today, dot com. 348 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm also reading an article on hustling com posts and 349 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: I just google water and the effects of calming, and 350 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: it says wild water makes us feel calm. You know, 351 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: scientists have really studied showing that people who live near 352 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: the ocean or water report feeling less stressed and better health. Um, 353 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: it's still a mystery, I think to psychologists, but we 354 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: do know that the water has common effects and so 355 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's a ton of organizations that can offer 356 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: different wellness resources. So you know, like I said, go 357 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: onto our website and check it out. Well, I will 358 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: go on your website because I can never I can 359 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: always be educated. And like I said, I've just been 360 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: naturally doing something that And I bought the house that 361 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: I live in intentionally because it did have water behind 362 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: the house, and and it was it was moving water, 363 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: because the water doesn't just stay there. So it really 364 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of little things that naturally translate into 365 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: calming me down. And when you look at when when 366 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you're in a business and I'm an African American male 367 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: and I'm in a business where you know, deals are 368 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: big representing talent, and that's what you were in. You 369 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: were in you know, you know Capitol Records, the Face Records, 370 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: Columbia Records. You know where an album can get everybody 371 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: exciting and and the poor sales of an album or 372 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: talent can leave and calm, or talent can have an attitude, 373 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: the talent can get sick on the tour. It's so 374 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: many variables that are not normal to everyday life. You know. 375 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: The cool thing about being an entrepreneur, That's what we're 376 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: talking about entrepreneurs on this show is that you just 377 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you wake up, but you don't know if a customer's 378 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: gonna show up. You don't know if the oven that 379 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be baking it's gonna work. We don't know anything. 380 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: The circumstances are as laid out, and that's creates stress. 381 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: Now that stress can lead into anxiety, which can lead 382 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: into depression. And so right now when you hear me talk, 383 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: it's doss. You know, I feel like I'm in control. 384 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm in control, but i feel 385 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: like I'm in control. Where does a person like me 386 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: get out of control or need a need counseling or 387 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: what are the true signs of a person like me 388 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit earlier, but now that 389 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: you're hearing me talk a guy who's supposed to have 390 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: his act together but still me need therapy. So you know, again, 391 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I think it varies from person to person. UM. What 392 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: I will say is, because we all have been quarantining 393 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: this quarantine and dealing with this pandemic, I think we've 394 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: seen a heightened level or sense of anxiety. UM. I 395 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: think when you start feeling like you're you feel like 396 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: there's some impeding danger, or your panicking, or oftentimes we've 397 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: seen heart attacks UM the mimics as panic attacks or 398 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: right versa. UM. So if you're sweating a lot, if 399 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: you're trembling, if you're feeling tired or weak, or if 400 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: you're having trouble concentrating and you're constantly worrying, that might 401 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: be time to actually talk to someone and consider seeing 402 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: a therapist. What I tell people, you know, therapy isn't 403 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: just when something is wrong, you know. I like to 404 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: look at therapy as a wellness tool. I know people 405 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: that have you know, just like they talked to you know, 406 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: high high network individuals like yourself or people that work 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: in high pressure job. You know, you have your accountant, 408 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: you have your lawyer, you have your life. You know, 409 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: why not why not couple your therapist therapists right and 410 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: bring them into that, you know, group of individuals that 411 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of make you flow from from a day to 412 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: day perspective. It's like, you need to make sure that 413 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: you're utilizing therapy um when something isn't just always wrong, 414 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: because it's good to talk to us on one um 415 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: from an objective perspective, and I tell people, you know, 416 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: sometimes you might have to. It's like Dayton, you know, 417 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: you gotta keep trying to find the right therapist and 418 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: ship for you because I've heard people saying, oh, how 419 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: was therapy wants It didn't work for me. But that 420 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to stop, right. That's just like 421 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: your primary health care position. You get a doctor you 422 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: don't like, well, you're gonna find another good one because 423 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: you want to again make sure you have healthy coping 424 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: mechanisms to get throughout your day. Well. You know, I 425 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: love the passion in your voice. I love the energy 426 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: and your voice are reading your bio and you're being 427 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: recognized globally about your efforts with silence the same, which 428 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: is really important because this when you take a passion 429 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: because you was heading down one direction twenty five years 430 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: making stars, you know, selling records, making videos, and then 431 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: know this is what And I look at pictures too. 432 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I look at pictures, I look at the interviews. I 433 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: it feels like because you're doing this for you and 434 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: you're making a difference because it's you. You know, a 435 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: lot of people always talk about you know, when I 436 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: managed Steve Harvey and I stopped managing and start doing 437 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: my own thing, that was a transition, was a difficult 438 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: transition for me. But I'm doing for Rashan McDonald now, 439 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: and money making conversation is for Rashan McDonald. What I 440 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the values that I want to promote, the values that 441 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: I want to put out there, you know, And so 442 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: that's what I hear in your voice. I mean the 443 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: articulation they can for Then you know something that you 444 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: couldn't talk about, something you really didn't understand. You're an 445 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: expert in it, and you want everybody to understand that 446 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: there is a reason you should act this way, and 447 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you should not not be ashamed the kids be ashamed 448 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: if you're feeling acting different for what they call normal 449 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: situations when stress or anxiety falls upon your plate. Because 450 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to this new Instagram live show 451 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: that you're doing during this pandemic period. It's called yeah, 452 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: well is check in where your interview celebrities tell us 453 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: about that. You know that that's transition though I was 454 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: just transitioning. That's you know. Of course, I think when 455 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: the quarantine for a captain, like everybody else, I was 456 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: nervous about, you know, will the foundation be able to 457 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: continue to get fun? You know what am I gonna do? 458 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: Because I was doing a lot of pay thinking date, 459 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: going to company, sharing my story around and of course 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: all that got canceled. So, you know, God, I just 461 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: sat still one morning and God was like, you can 462 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: still be a service to others and the money will come. 463 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Don't worry about at So I just woke up one 464 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: morning and sat feel and allowed God to speak to me, 465 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you know it's all about 466 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: well this. I was like, yeah, well this. So I 467 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: was doing my old brainstorming session and I came up 468 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: with the name, and then I got the I g 469 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: live handle and you know, form the company, and I 470 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: started texting my friends. I texted Charlemagne, who's the radio 471 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, well known radio host. So Charlemagne he was 472 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: my first guest. He was like, of course I'll do it. 473 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: Then I texted one of my close friends after Titia Campbell, 474 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: she agreed to do it. She's been on the show. 475 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: I've had um d ninth, I've had Karen Sivil, I've 476 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: had the singer Estelle Um. I've had in former NBA 477 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: player t n t Um, commentator Chris Weber, Erica Campbell. 478 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: From Mary Mary, I mean, the list goes on because 479 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: everybody at this time, you know, feels like you know, 480 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: right or wrong. Mental health is just after you know, 481 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: the forefront of everything, you know, not necessarily right or wrong, 482 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: but you know, I think people are feel being anxious 483 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: during this time. And to be able to check in 484 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: with some of these celebrities, you know, to show everyday 485 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: people like, look, we all are going through this. You know, 486 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: it's not just you don't think something is wrong with you, 487 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: and there's help out there if you need it, and 488 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: it's nothing to be embarrassed about. So being able to 489 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: start this year well on this platform, I think has 490 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: been a real blessing um, just to show everybody that 491 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: guess what, at the end of the day, we're all humans. 492 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: We all may experience this. But at the same time, 493 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: help is available. We don't have to live in the valley, right. 494 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: We go through so much trials and tribulations in our lives, 495 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: but we may have ups and downs and turn it 496 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: out and motions that our mental health. But help is available. 497 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: And that is the one thing that we're trying to 498 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: do with silence and shame is to let people know 499 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: that if you need help, you can get it. Wow, 500 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: it really is important. It's really interesting when you when 501 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: you start a platform and you can call on people, 502 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: important people and they respond that's important. But then here 503 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: in your conversation something came out of out of the 504 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: conversation to me that was really important. Sometimes we we 505 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: use work or busy to hide anxiety or to hide 506 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: depression and and and then when you hide it, it 507 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: pops up. Someplaces can pop up in the relationship, sudden 508 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: anger it can pop up, and parenting, screaming at your kids, 509 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: abusing your kids. You know, an abuse can be a 510 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: different way, just striking your kid or punching your kid unnecessarily. 511 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: There are different ways of abuse. Doesn't have to be 512 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: just pounding on your kid to abuse your kid or 513 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: abuse your mate, and so so we can mass so 514 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: So when I was hearing you talk, I was like, man, 515 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, because you can just be busy, busy, busy, 516 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: but really have a problem. Would just being busy and 517 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: you and you and high functioning persons? You know, really 518 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm just popping out. I'm just living this little crazy life. 519 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm at the lake, just calming myself down. You said, 520 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: that's coping, you know, high high function in person. All 521 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: this anxiety and depression because you're a depression come can 522 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: come at you at different waves. You know, when you 523 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: don't get a deal or something important happens to you, 524 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: how do you recover from that? You know? Have you 525 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: planned to tell people with Shawn? So when not to 526 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: cut you off, I'm sorry, but but to what you're saying, 527 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: it's so important because I want people to know that 528 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: sometimes we can be really really sad, but that doesn't 529 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: mean that we're depressed, right, So you gotta like take 530 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: a serious look at it because I don't want people 531 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: to think and the takeaway from the video is that 532 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're all depressed, but I would tell people 533 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: we all go through sadness, that experience anxiousness, but it 534 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we're depressed. But if that those feelings 535 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: and those thoughts really prolonged, and then your family or 536 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: your colleagues, people around you start seeing a pattern and saying, 537 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, man, what's up with you know? Uh Keisha? 538 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Or what's up with Rudy? Like you don't really seem 539 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: like himself? Like you have got to then say, okay, 540 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what, something is not quite right, and you 541 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: gotta be willing to listen to people that's giving you 542 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: that the people that love you, that's giving you that feedback, 543 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: because oftentimes, you know, I was that person I felt like, 544 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: oh I not wrong me. I don't need to talk 545 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: to nobody. See the pattern changing and you recognize these signs. 546 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: That's why we want to educate people on what the 547 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: signs and symptoms are because if you see something different 548 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: and you're going down the wrong path, you got your 549 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: help absolutely. You know, May is mental health mental Health 550 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Awareness Month and National Silence the same day is Tuesday, 551 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: May fifth. That day silence the shame will be hosting 552 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the big text of thro tell us about that and 553 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: how we can participate. I know I have a banner 554 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: right now has the word shame struck out. Talk to 555 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: us about it and UH and so we can I 556 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: know I'll be putting that banner on my social media. 557 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: I'll be putting that banner in my newsletter that goes 558 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: out to name thousand and to go out this week. 559 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I have a made first newsletter, so it to go 560 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: out this Friday promoting your May fifth events. Tell us 561 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: about it that MS Dawson, Yeah, so thank you, Thank 562 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: you for Shawn, and we appreciate the support. So May 563 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: fifth is National Files to Shame Day. We are going 564 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: to be interviewing politicians and celebrities and getting people to 565 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: talk about our mental health on our Silence to Shame 566 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Instagram page. Also UH national recording artists in DJs. Germaine 567 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: dupri is going to be doing a virtual fundraising for 568 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: us on his i G from four to six pm 569 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: and we'll have celebrities around the world and influencers and 570 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: everyday people posting. You can post a picture of yourself 571 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: or video talking about your whole personal experience and encourage 572 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: people to donate um again, We're gonna be raising funds 573 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: for resources and programs, our scholarship programs, and a portion 574 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: of the proceeds will go to free therapy during the pandemic. 575 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: So to donate, you can text the word silence the 576 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: seven oh seven O seven oh, or you can visit 577 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: our website and donate at Silence the Shame dot com. 578 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Now more than ever, mental health is so important because 579 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to tell people it's mind, body and soul. 580 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: We're seawan what affects your mental can affect your physical. 581 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: You talked about you know, things manifesting into other problems 582 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: in other areas well. Mental health issue can manifest into 583 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: physical issues and vice versa. So we've got to raise 584 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: our voice and raise the community awareness and make this 585 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: is the day to talk about it, to support it, 586 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to donate, and to get everybody to being their best selves. 587 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: My friend fantastic, I want to thank you for coming 588 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: on the show. I will definitely as I told you earlier, 589 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: I will be supporting you. In fact, I probably upload 590 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a picture of myself by my late coping. As you say, 591 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, then you know that this is where I go. 592 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: This is my outlet when things are on top of 593 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: me and I can't control. I gotta because you know 594 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: the thing about the beautiful, the beautiful part about this 595 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: interview is that we all deal with stress differently. We 596 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: just gotta understand how to cope with it. And like 597 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: you said, if it's prolonged, then it should be investigated. 598 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: If it's affecting your family, it's affecting your business, affecting 599 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the way you're communicating, affecting your parenting, it should be investigated. 600 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: This dogs want to thank you for coming on my show. 601 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: She is the founder of Silence to Shame. May fifth 602 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be my day. That day, Sounds to Shame 603 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: will be hosting the big text of thon. Thank you 604 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: for coming to my show. Ms dos, thank you so much. 605 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: And I just want to say I've been a fan 606 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: and and and and watch you behind the scenes for 607 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: many years and I'm so proud of you and what 608 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: you continue to do to bless people UM in many ways. 609 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: So keep up the good work, Mr McDonald, I appreciate it. Again. 610 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more episodes of Money Making Conversation, 611 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: go to Money Making Conversation dot com UM with Sean McDonald. 612 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host in this season of giving, Cools has 613 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: gifts for all your loved ones. 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