1 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. 2 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Holds it. 3 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle. 4 00:00:50,960 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: Hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to 5 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: my voice. I am deeply well. I am deeply well. 6 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: I am deeply I'm Debbie Brown and this is the 7 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 4: Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place 8 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: to land on your journey. A podcast for those that 9 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness 10 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: and self care. 11 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: This is where we heal, This is where we transcend. 12 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show everyone, of course Brown, this 13 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: is deeply Well. Today's guest is someone whose life and 14 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: work are a true embodiment of what radical transformation feels like, 15 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: especially when we surrender to all of our inner work, 16 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: proof that no matter where we start, healing and reinvention 17 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: are always possible. Her story is one of courage, resilience, 18 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: and deep spiritual awakening. She has turned unimaginable pain into 19 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: profound purpose, creating a movement that reminds us that nothing 20 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: is off limits when it comes to healing. I am 21 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: so honored to welcome our guest. Elizabeth Carson, a trauma 22 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: informed transformational leader coach global speaker and visionary entrepreneur. Elizabeth 23 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 4: is the creator of the Unlimited with Elizabeth Carson podcast 24 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: and a viral force on social media. With her raw 25 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: insights on trauma, spirituality, shadow work, and embodiment, she has 26 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: shared her story and teachings on international stages, guiding people 27 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: into breakthroughs of identity, healing, and power. From a past 28 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 4: hustling in the streets to a multifaceted present as a biohacker, 29 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: certified pastry chef, and president of a mental health facility, 30 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: just to name a few, Elizabeth is living proof that 31 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: reinvention is always possible. 32 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Now. 33 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: As a beloved coach and mentor, she leads a thriving 34 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: online community, coaching programs and healing in person events. Raising 35 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: her son as a single mom surviving betrayal and abusive experiences. 36 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Elizabeth's work is rooted in showing others you can burn 37 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: it all down and still rise higher. 38 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the show. Welcome to Deeply Well. 39 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Devey. I'm honored to be here. 40 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Like I said when I got here, I've just been 41 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: looking forward to this so much. 42 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: So looking forward to this, and you know, I have 43 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: to share with everyone on the show. 44 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you guys. 45 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: Have caught it already, but I was so so grateful 46 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: to be a guest on your podcast and share my 47 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: book with your world and your audience that episode. I 48 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: loved that episode. It was like, really the first time, 49 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: and everyone, if you haven't heard it yet, check it out. 50 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: We'll link it in the show notes. I loved in 51 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: that episode. It was my first time being able to 52 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: talk about my book really from the experience of healing 53 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: through my own pain and healing through my divorce and 54 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 4: just being able to really speak to the work as 55 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: women and moms and that balance of doing it all. 56 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: And I know so many listening right now really identify 57 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: with that, you know, leading a multifaceted life and also 58 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: raising a child while in spiritual transformation. 59 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lot, it is. It's a lot, but 60 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: it's such a beautiful experience. It's honestly, my son is 61 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: my biggest teacher, you know, and he's just the biggest 62 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: blessing in my life honestly. I mean, he's the one 63 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: that kind of snapped me out of my craziness and 64 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: made me realize I really have to make different decisions 65 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: because now I'm responsible for a whole another life. So 66 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: he really saved my life, to be honest, and yeah, 67 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: it's just been such a blessing to be a mom. 68 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, such a such a blessing, such a beautiful, 69 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: sacred work. 70 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Before we kind of. 71 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: Dive into all the things like this moment in the world, 72 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 4: it is, I don't even know. 73 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: If we have all the words from what we're experiencing 74 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: right now. It's a lot. It's a lot. 75 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: And then when we think of what the work is 76 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: being in community and what the work is sharing healing, 77 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: where are you in your. 78 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Life right now? And how are you feeling? You know what? 79 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: That's who that's a loaded question. I mean honestly, I 80 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: just went through a whole new transformation about five six 81 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: months ago. My whole entire world changed completely. I thought 82 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: everything was one way. You know, my whole life was 83 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: painted as this pretty picture of I was married, you know, 84 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: we were doing well, and I had a staff, I 85 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 2: had friends, I had a big house and a nice 86 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: car and a chauffeur, and you know, all of that 87 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: changed in a matter of a couple hours and it 88 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: was just like boom, and it was gone, and I 89 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: was like, okay, so what do I do? And you know, 90 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: how do I rebuild from here? And you know, doing 91 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: that with a child too, it was, you know, it 92 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: was like mom mode kind of just kicked in and 93 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: I'll just be completely transparent. I was not in the 94 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: best place when I was in that pretty picture painting. 95 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean I was. I was smoking a lot of weed, 96 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: you know, I just I was. I wasn't very happy. 97 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: I was burnt out, really really burnt out from what 98 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: we had built. And so when everything changed, it was 99 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: like boom. I sobered up, I quit smoking, and I 100 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: just wanted to normalize life for my son because it 101 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: was so not normal. I was just like, how can 102 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: I create stability and safety for my child? 103 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: I always think this because I'm myself, and we talked 104 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: about this on your show. You know, I went through 105 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: a divorce in the pandemic a few weeks after the 106 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: pandemic started, which was something and I, you know, much 107 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: like you mom, and so I remember, I know, my 108 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: first thought was similar in that, Okay, how do I 109 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: bring I saw it as an opportunity to up level 110 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: as a mom and to bring even more of myself 111 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: into my relationship with my son. But also really looking like, Okay, 112 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: how do I ground my own energy and kind of 113 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: my chaotic emotional world in this moment, because this is 114 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: going to happen for all of us, Like whether you 115 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: go through divorce or not, all of life is uncertain. Yes, 116 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: so we are all going to be hit throughout our 117 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: lifetimes with various moments that are like, hey, this is 118 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: either the moment that. 119 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: You can like. 120 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: Hit rock bottom or that you can like really find 121 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: a new part of yourself to rise in. So like 122 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: when you realize when you hit that moment and you're like, 123 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: life is going to be different now and I will 124 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: not be going back to what that was, so I'm 125 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: creating something completely new. 126 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Like what's the first thing that you do? 127 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: I just tried to really, you know, ground my nervous 128 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: system because I was such a shock. You know. I 129 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: don't like to hide my emotions from my son, because 130 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of parents try to do that, 131 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: and we try to cover up and we don't want 132 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: them to see us upset. But yet our energy explains 133 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: it all and so when we're not in alignment with 134 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: ourselves in front of them, it confuses them. So I 135 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: allowed myself to be upset, but I didn't want to 136 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: be Overboord, just a hot mess in front of him, 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: and because you know that, just I didn't want him 138 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: to see me completely distraught. So I was just kind 139 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: of I mean, I used mother Earth really to ground 140 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: that stress out of my body. I would just take 141 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: walks in nature, connect with trees, and really just connect 142 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: with things that made me feel grounded. And so that 143 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: helped me move through these emotions in a way that 144 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: was very healthy. And yet I would, you know, still 145 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: stable for my son and allowing him also to have 146 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: his feelings and allowing him to get his anger and 147 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: crying out as well, I mean, and just being there 148 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: as the mom for him in those moments. It was 149 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: you know, it was very teachable for me. 150 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh the way the wisdom comes in yeah, oh 151 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: my gosh. 152 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: And that's why even when you first started describing that, 154 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: like the word that I use was like initiation, because 155 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: it's like it's always so fascinating, especially I think when 156 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 4: you are someone that is that has like deep awareness, 157 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: that is already like committed to consciousness, and then we 158 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: find all these like highly sophisticated ways that we've been 159 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: hiding from ourselves or all the crevices that there's like 160 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: just a little bit more to do, like more things 161 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: to look at. One of the things that you work 162 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: with a lot and talk about a lot on your 163 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: podcast and with your community is shadow work, right, And 164 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: I think shadow work is so misunderstood and sometimes gets 165 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: a bad rap. You know, people's assumption is like the 166 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: word sounds like darkness, and so oh no, get out 167 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 4: of the dark. 168 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: You don't want to. But like, how do you classify 169 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: shadow work? 170 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: I would just say shadow work is some of the 171 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: most beautiful work that anyone can do in their lifetime. 172 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: I mean it's just kind of shining the light where 173 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: your darkness lays. I mean, we have all went through 174 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: stuff in our lives, and it it's knowing that you know, 175 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: we have these things, we have these traumas that affect 176 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: us to this present moment today. And if we can 177 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: shed lights where those dark areas are and really just 178 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: readdress ourselves and look at ourselves and work through that pain, 179 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: it's easier for us to come to the present moment 180 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: without judgment and to actually come here with presence instead 181 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: of chains that are holding us back from coming to 182 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: the present moment. You know, and seeing life and the 183 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: beauty that there really is. So it's really just growing 184 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: through those dark moments and you know, learning our lessons. 185 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: There there comes a gift in every single bad I 186 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't even say it's bad, but every single trauma that 187 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: we've experienced, there is a gift in that trauma. And 188 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: if we can find that, that's our power. 189 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: What surprised you when. 190 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: You kind of like went in with your light, with 191 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: your flashlight into some of those places, Oh. 192 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Man, it's just it's like, I feel like this might 193 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: trigger some people, but I feel like everything in our 194 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,239 Speaker 2: lives we've attracted it in some way, shape or form, 195 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: and so you know, it's really just changing our energy 196 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: frequency mind state is what's going to change our life. 197 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of trauma happened to me, and 198 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: dark moments happened to me because I put myself in 199 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: those situations. You know, I was kind of just in 200 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: that vibration, in that frequency, and I mean I was 201 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: lost and confused. I didn't know any better. I'm not 202 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: ashamed of it, but it's just knowing and looking back 203 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: at it now, it's like, well, I was there, you know, 204 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: I was in those places where I probably shouldn't have been, 205 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: and so it caused a lot more in my life. 206 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: So you know, when you can put awareness on things 207 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: and take accountability, then you can change. When you don't 208 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: take accountability, then it's like you're kind of stuck. 209 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, it's so true, and I'm so glad you're 210 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: speaking to that because I think just for so many 211 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: of us, like we've walked through things, We've had things 212 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: that like we're like, how did I end up in 213 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: that circumstance or you know, and sometimes it really is circumstantial, 214 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: especially in our younger years, Like we don't choose where 215 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: we grow up, right, we don't choose the containers that 216 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: were put in until we become adults and have agency. 217 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: But you know, we're just trying to survive whatever our 218 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: natural environment is, whatever our ecosystem is, you know. And 219 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: I think especially for our young girls, and this is 220 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: a whole different conversation because our men have so many 221 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: other different kinds of battles that they face that I 222 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: can't speak to fully authentically because I had my experience. 223 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: But I think especially with women, it's hard to be 224 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: young and environments that are really hardened because you don't 225 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 4: get to learn natural softness, and like you learn your 226 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: femininity in a different way, like in a way that actually, 227 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: like long term it is hard to understand. I think, Yeah, 228 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: some of what you speak about, you know, is like 229 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: where you came from and coming from harder environments where 230 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: you really had to rise and probably didn't have any 231 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: blueprints on how to do that. How did how you 232 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: grew up inform your work now in transformation and even 233 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: help you when you found that you were in a 234 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: hard situation. 235 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, this year, you. 236 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: Know, I really realized over the past ten years that 237 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: my biggest issue that has or trauma that's happened to 238 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: me was adoption being given away at birth. And I 239 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: actually did some somatic work and experience my birth again, 240 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: and I realized that I never saw my mother, and 241 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: it just really made me realize how important deep those moments, 242 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: those first moments that you have in this third dimension 243 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: are so important for the rest of your life. It 244 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: stamps your blueprint of who you become. If you think 245 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: about it, as babies, as young children, we don't have 246 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: any armor, you know, we don't have anything, we don't 247 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: have masks. We just are And so when traumas happened 248 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: to us, it hits us direct, so that re experiencing 249 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: that process, I mean who I mean, it was some 250 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: of the deepest pain that I've ever felt. And so 251 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:39,359 Speaker 2: knowing that has, you know, really made me see people's 252 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: pain with abandonment and those first moments in those first 253 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: seven years, even in gestation, even when you're a fetus. 254 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, stress hormones crossed the placenta halfway through pregnancy. 255 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: So I even went did some cranial sacral work and 256 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: went back into my mother's womb and felt her despair, 257 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, and felt those because the baby is swimming 258 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: in those stress hormones. So knowing that moving forward in 259 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: my life, I mean, we're just stamped with so many 260 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: different things that we don't even really understand sometimes, and 261 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: it really makes us react to the current situation, I 262 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: guess inappropriately because we don't even understand ourselves. So that's 263 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: what I really try to teach people now is really 264 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: just understanding what they've went through to cause their blueprints 265 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: as what it is today. And so going through my 266 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: last situation, I mean I kind of have realized I 267 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: have caused this pattern in my life of abandonment because 268 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, maybe that was I feel 269 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: like when things keep showing up in your life, it 270 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: just shows you what you have to heal within yourself truly. 271 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, it just kind of brought me back to those, 272 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: you know, the abandonment thing of adoption. So it's like, 273 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: how do I heal this wound through myself so I 274 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: don't ever, you know, repeat this cycle of being abandoned. 275 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: You know. 276 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: That's so I mean, gosh, I would love to do it, 277 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: like just a whole episode on that because that is 278 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's so deep, and those are I think 279 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: the the more for those on this spiritual path, the 280 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: farther we go and the deeper we get into the 281 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: nuance of like what it is to feel love, to 282 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: be love, like to know love. 283 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: But also how early it starts. 284 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 4: Like those stats you gave around feeling a mom's pain 285 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: while you're in there, like that is so real, Like 286 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: how many of our mothers were in hard environments or 287 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: hard circumstances when they were growing. 288 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: Life and they don't have a choice. 289 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to pass that to your baby, 290 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: but you don't have a choice, you know. It's what's 291 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: happening to you and what your body naturally does and 292 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: the ways that can affect relationship or reflect you know, 293 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: how a person grows to feel about themselves. Like it's 294 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: deep in so many layers. I think hearing your story 295 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: about having to go back and reckon with what it 296 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: felt like to be adopted, and like the deep nuance 297 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: of I never even got to be like in my 298 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: mom's arms, like I never I don't know her, you know, 299 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: Like it really is the levels of that, And I 300 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: think in our society we don't talk about that enough, 301 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: and we don't think about that for children enough, Like 302 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: we really don't when we think about the amount of 303 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: kids that end up in foster care and are then 304 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: thrown to the wolves the moment they hit eighteen and eighteen, 305 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 4: you not only are you still a child, but if 306 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: you were in the system, you're becoming eighteen with so 307 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: much less than everyone else in every single way. Yeah, 308 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: but how did you work with that energy of being adopted? 309 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: Is that something that you realize affected you when you 310 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: were younger or did it kind of like come into 311 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: your awareness like once you were a woman that that 312 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: was something you needed to heal. 313 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: You know what I look back now and realized that 314 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: I always felt that in my childhood. I mean I 315 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: used to have tantrums and then unfortunately my parents they 316 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: didn't know how to handle me, so they would just 317 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: leave me in a room and just let me tantrum 318 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: it out, and I would just fall asleep from exhaustion. 319 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: And that was scratching on that abandonment wounds. And then 320 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: you know, just growing up with people that didn't look 321 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: like me. You know, adoption is very serious for people. 322 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I think that it's something that we should take a 323 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: deeper look on and really try to educate people more 324 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: so on because you literally don't really have an identity, 325 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, It's really crazy. I mean 326 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: I started drinking at eleven. I mean I was sneaking 327 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: out at ten. I mean I moved out of my 328 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: parents house at fourteen. I was selling drugs at twelve. 329 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: You know, it was just it was a wild childhood 330 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: for me. And it's like I look at my son 331 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: and he's thirteen, and he's like just most just he 332 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: loved school. He doesn't want to miss school. I mean, 333 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: he's very concerned about doing his work on time and 334 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: getting good grades and I'm just like that was I 335 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: was the opposite of that, and so I just I 336 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: look at that and I wonder how much of that 337 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: had to do with those first few moments on my 338 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: birth and how angry and just devastated I was as 339 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: a baby not being I mean, I remember when I 340 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: re experienced the birth process, all I wanted to do 341 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: was look into my mother's eyes and it was like 342 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: I didn't get that, you know. So that pain carried 343 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 2: through my childhood and into my teenage years, and I 344 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: just I feel like we should educate about those first 345 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: few moments because they're so detrimental for a person. I mean, 346 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: I had a girlfriend that I used to bartend with 347 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: and she was a Korean adoptee and we used to 348 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: just do cocaine all night and bartend. You know what. 349 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: It was just very toxic, and I wonder how much 350 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: of that has to do with her adoption, you know. 351 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: And yes, a lot of adoptees have these issues and 352 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: have these you know, abandonment things, and just they go 353 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: to drugs and alcohol a lot of the time, and 354 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: so you got to wonder why that is. 355 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent, And I think 356 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 4: that part, and I hope we get into this and 357 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: especially you know, when people. 358 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Like yourself share their story. 359 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 4: This is the nuance that we need to understand, like, 360 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: this is the next level of mental health, of spiritual health, 361 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: when we really get into the fibers of what you know, 362 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: these kind of experiences that are very normalized in our 363 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 4: society are like it affects millions of millions of people. 364 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: You know. 365 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: Wow, thank you for sharing that such a deep and 366 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: vulnerable way, because I think it just aligned so many 367 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: of us. 368 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: We're not. 369 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 4: We don't always talk about the harder realities of childhood, 370 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: you know, and especially when you are kind of opened 371 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: up to more adult experiences and environments. And that's a 372 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: lot of us. That's a lot of us. That's a 373 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: lot of things. You know, by fifteen, Yeah, we're put 374 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: in a lot of hard situations, you know before you 375 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: even quote unquote like make it into the world as 376 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 4: an adult. And I find that to be something extremely 377 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: common among healers. If you were guided to the path 378 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: of healing, you know, most of us are wounded healers. 379 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: You come to the path from hard edges and hard things. 380 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: Deeply well, a lot of your work centers on feminine 381 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: leadership especially and embodiment. 382 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: What doesn't mean to be able to lead from the feminine? 383 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like, you know, our society, especially 384 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: in America, we're taught to hustle, hustle, hustle, you know, 385 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, sleep when you die, you know all that 386 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: that whole mentality. Being in your feminine energy is the 387 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: opposite of that. It is really just being embodied in 388 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: presence and knowing that what is here for you is 389 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: for you, and understanding the attraction word. You know, this 390 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: is something I really learned over the dark night this 391 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: past couple of months, is that our magic is within 392 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: us and we just have to believe it and sit 393 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: in that. We don't have to hustle, hustle, hustle. I mean, 394 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: we can lead from here, but leading from here got 395 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: me burnt out, got me to the top realizing that 396 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't happy. I mean, I got everything external that 397 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: I always thought I wanted, but was a happy no 398 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: because I was leading from the head instead of from 399 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: the heart. And so really being in your feminine energy 400 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: divinely is leading from the heart, and you know, attracting 401 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: what is divinely meant for you and we can't as 402 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: women live up here all the time because we can 403 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: and we can, you know, create greatness and a lot 404 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: of external greatness, right, but will we really be happy? 405 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: There is the question? 406 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: Talk to me about that, that idea of like victim mentality, 407 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: because I think that that is a piece that is 408 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: hard for a lot of people to cross over, especially 409 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: when hard things happen to you that aren't your fault 410 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: and you're like, no, that literally fits the definition of 411 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: being a victim. 412 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: But how do you. 413 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 4: Make that shift inside and like shift your mentality from like, yes, 414 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 4: something absolutely happened, and this is how you change your 415 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: mindset about it. 416 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so hard to do that, you know, 417 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: especially when you feel wrong to betrayed. It's very difficult. 418 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: But understanding that where's the gift in what has happened? 419 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: You know, where's the beauty in what has happened? And 420 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: kind of focusing on that and then focusing on your 421 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: power that you have is a beautiful thing. I mean, 422 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: our perception creates our reality and so if we're perceiving that, 423 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: you know, blaming and all this was so wrong and 424 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: why did this happen to me? Like that that wasn't fair. 425 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: If we're focusing on that perception on our lenses there, 426 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: then you know our reality is going to keep mirroring 427 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: that stuff back to us. Especially, I mean, our brains 428 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: are beautiful, amazing brains. We have this thing called the 429 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: reticular activating system, and it filters out our reality because 430 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: of our belief in what life is and who we are. 431 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: So knowing that, it was like, no, I am a 432 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: powerful creator. I am not a victim of my reality. 433 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: Because if I'm a victim of my reality, reality is 434 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: happening to me. I'm not creating my reality. So I 435 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: took my power back and I'm like, no, I create 436 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: my reality. I take accountability for my actions. And moving 437 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: forward through this, my perception is I have the power 438 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: to create greatness and I am not a victim to 439 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: what has happened to me. You know. It's just kind 440 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: of realizing that we have so much power within us 441 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: to create beauty, and if we stay in that victim mentality, 442 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: it takes away all of that power to create. 443 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 444 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, truly. 445 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 4: And I think like, and you name this earlier, as 446 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: part of your process, like getting into your body, like 447 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 4: I need some modalities and tools to help you because 448 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: like the triggering is going to happen, you know, like yeah, 449 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 4: that charge, those feelings, especially if there's betrayal and abuse. 450 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: My god, you know it's like that you have to 451 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: heal your structure, your vessel as much as you heal 452 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 4: your spirit. 453 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: I feel in those cases. 454 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard. You know, when those triggers 455 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: come and the emotional body takes over, it's like whow. 456 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: I would just tell people take a moment, like take 457 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: a beat, you know, take a beat and put awareness there. 458 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: I mean, awareness alone will help to disperse some of 459 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: that charge within you. And you know what, it's the 460 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: simplest things. I mean, I've done over one hundred different 461 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: modalities throughout my life, but it was the simplest things 462 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: that helped me through this, and that is the Son 463 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: and Mother Earth. I mean truly, yeah, oh my god, 464 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: and everybody has access to that. So instead of letting 465 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: that charge kind of take your body over, take that 466 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: beat so you don't act out inappropriately, and then kind 467 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: of bring that awareness back to yourself. And then I 468 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: would just I would run outside anytime that I would 469 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: feel it, I would just literally wherever I was at, 470 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: I would just be like I would book it outside. 471 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: I would take my shoes off, put my hands on 472 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: the earth and just breathe, you know, breath work too. 473 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: That breath is everything, is everything. So I mean that 474 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 2: alone just brought gratitude back into my vessel, you know, 475 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 2: from that pain. Connecting with nature is everything. 476 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is exactly it. It is everything. 477 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it really can happen like that quickly, like 478 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: it really, And I think so many people don't think 479 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: to do that because it feels too small or like 480 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like it's actually gonna change the depth 481 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: of like what needs to change. 482 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, don't it really does? 483 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: It really does. I mean, I have music dancing I 484 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: call them my dance party. Walks have helped me heal 485 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: through these hard moments. And it's just so simple. You know. 486 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: It's literally putting on your favorite song and going outside 487 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: and just being grateful for the trees and the flowers 488 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: and just paying attention to how beautiful and perfect nature is. 489 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, nature is perfect. We are not, you know, 490 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: so if we can try to align with nature, it 491 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: just brings out our perfection and in those moments of trigger, 492 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's hard for us to want to 493 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: even get out of it sometimes. I mean, our emotions 494 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: take us over. We want to feel that anger and 495 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: be angry, and I say, that's fine. We need to 496 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: be aware and address that those feelings are coming up. 497 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: But don't let yourself stay there, you know, try to 498 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: move through these things. Our whole life is ebb and flow, 499 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: ebb and flow, up and down, black and white, yin 500 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: and yang. I mean, that's just the beauty of what 501 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: life is. So being able to move through the emotions 502 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: instead of being stuck and just taken over by them 503 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: is what has really helped me, you know, kind of 504 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: get through this pretty quickly, I would say, you know, 505 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: and I'm still going through it. I wouldn't say, I mean, 506 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: and I don't think that any human is fully healed ever. 507 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: I think that life is just a process. But I mean, 508 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: being able to be where I'm at now is something 509 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: I can be really proud of. And because a lot 510 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: of people, a lot of women, get stuck. They get 511 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: stuck and they just you know, it takes them over, 512 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, And I would just say, it doesn't have 513 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: to do that, like literally run outside, like run, That's 514 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: what I would do literally run. 515 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: That's so real, Like getting out of hard relationships for 516 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: a variety of reasons, like if you're in ones that 517 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: are abusive or toxic, and or if you're in you know, 518 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: some that are just not aligned and authentic to. 519 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Who you are. 520 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: Like it's so hard to see yourself on the other 521 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: side of it. It's so hard to know, like what 522 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 4: is the first step and then what happens? And you know, 523 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: especially if you're coming out of like betrayals and abuse 524 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: and just like dysfunction. I mean really, it's like you 525 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: don't know who you are anymore in a lot of ways, 526 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: and your body doesn't even feel like your own, Like 527 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 4: the responses are so different, Like just yeah, knowing how 528 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: to ground it feels utterly impossible. Yeah, but taking those steps, 529 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: like really running, like going outside, like getting your feet 530 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: on the ground, it helps you remember who you are, 531 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: you know, And I think even like tapping like your 532 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: solar plexus right above your navel, holding yourself there or 533 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: holding your heart as you do that, like even when 534 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: you feel so disconnected from your truth, like it reminds 535 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 4: you like you are your own being. 536 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: Ye, Like you still have a choice, Yeah, make a choice. Yeah, always. Yeah, 537 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: it really TV. It really is that simple. It's just 538 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: the choice. You either go this way or you go 539 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: that way. And it's always that That's what life is. Yeah, 540 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: and so it's like choose, choose to bring your power 541 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: back to you, you know, choose to move through these emotions, 542 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: Choose to look at the beautiful flowers and appreciate them. 543 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the gratitude that comes when you connect with 544 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: a tree is amazing, you know. I mean I feel 545 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: like nature and it's like taking that beat, taking that 546 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: pause and just connecting is life changing. 547 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Truly is it is? 548 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: It is? 549 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is life changing. Oh. 550 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: So at the end of every episode, I like to 551 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: ask guests to provide some soul work. 552 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: So this is like the. 553 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: Chance for everyone listening to really embody and integrate anything 554 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: that came to life for them into this episode. And 555 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: the soul work can look like a practice. It can 556 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: be a thought starter, start a quote, a journal entry, 557 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 4: a type of meditation, like something meaningful to you that 558 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: can be put into practice. 559 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So I would say gratitude is everything, and so 560 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: right before you go to sleep at night, write five 561 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: things you're grateful for. I mean pen to paper, not 562 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: in your phone, like literally write it out, and you know, 563 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: as you are falling asleep, your brain is going into 564 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: these states that are you know, manifesting and innerdimensional. So 565 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: it's so important that as you're falling asleep, you are 566 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: looking at the things that you're grateful for, not the 567 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: things that you are upset with yourself for the bad 568 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: things that happen during that day. And so writing those 569 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: five things that you're grateful for before you go to 570 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: sleep kind of wires your brain to do so. And 571 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: then I would say, do it again as soon as 572 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: you wake up. I mean I don't even leave my 573 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: bed until I have that gratitude feeling running through my 574 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: body because it's it's so important. I mean, the mornings 575 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: are the start of the rest of your life. So 576 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: if you can get into that state before you even 577 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: begin your day, I mean, it just changes. It changes 578 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: the whole way you perceive the day, and that's your 579 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: life in miniature. 580 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: So ooh I love that. Yeah, the morning is the 581 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: start of your life. It really is. 582 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 4: And that's the thing that when we're kind of weighed 583 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: down by life, we do get disconnected from that synchronistic 584 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: magic that really truly like anything is possible in every moment. 585 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: It really is. It is quantum. 586 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean there's endless possibilities that we collapse into reality 587 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: through observance. So if we can get into the frequency 588 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: of the high vibe state of gratitude, it's like we're 589 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: collapsing the highest potential possibility into our lives in every moment. 590 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 2: Y magic. 591 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your hope for women? 592 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: Man? That they find themselves again and I mean embody them, 593 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, getting back into their bodies and honoring them 594 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: again instead of you know, pouring from empty cups. I 595 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: really hope that women can start filling their cups up again, 596 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: putting themselves first, you know, putting God and then themselves, 597 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: and understanding that they are the most important in their lives. 598 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: And then once they understand and embody that they can 599 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: be so much for everyone else. You know, pouring from 600 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: an empty cup is never a good thing. So when 601 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: you can fill your cup back up, you can pour 602 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: from full and that abundance of love that you can 603 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: give is just it's magical. I mean I've literally watched 604 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: and felt that through this last six months with my son. 605 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: I thought that I was being super mom, you know, 606 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: trying to do every little thing, and I was pouring 607 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: from empty. But as soon as I started filling my 608 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: cup up and taking those beats and taking the moments 609 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: outside of nature and the walks that I needed to, 610 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 2: I can be such a better mother to my son 611 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: because I'm pouring from a full cup. 612 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: Truly, Yeah, truly. 613 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: Elizabeth, Thank you so much for joining us. Please let 614 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 4: everyone know how can they connect to you? How can 615 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 4: they be with you? How can they hear you? 616 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: Yes? 617 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: So Instagram is Elizabeth I Carson. They can look me 618 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: up on YouTube. Definitely watch our episode. It was one 619 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: of the most amazing, awesome. It's Elizabeth Unlimited on YouTube 620 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: and yeah, that's probably the best way it's. 621 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: We will link to all the things down below in 622 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 4: the caption in the summary. Thank you so much, Elizabeth 623 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 4: Carson for joining us on Deeply Well. 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