1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Will you love basketball, golf, soccer or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Duel more Ways to win. Hi, everybody, and welcome to 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the Wednesday Podcast. Michael Strahan, who's got We're gonna talk 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: a lot more than a lot more than football. I mean, 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan grew up in Germany as a kid, incredibly 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: well traveled. He's one of the two or three most 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: successful former athletes in terms of television. I mean, Good 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Morning America, Fox Sundays, one hundred thousand Pyramid. I mean, 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: he has just he has just crushed it. And we'll 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: get to him in a couple of minutes. You know, 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking about something before we do, just a 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: football topic that I never try to convince Tebo fans. 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: I've given up trying to convince them that Tebo can't play. 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example of why is. I 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: just saw a study. The study looked at people who 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: grew up in religious families and were religious themselves, and 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: they focused on people who said they had renounced religion 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: and now consider themselves not religious at all. And they 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: asked those people questions about religion, and then compare those 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: answers with people who said they were never religious in 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: the first place. What did the study find. Well, it 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: found that the people who were religious but said they 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: weren't anymore, we're still notably more religious than people who 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: never believed in religion in the first place. So basically, 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: as much as they tried, they couldn't let go of 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: those beliefs, they still found a lot of truth in religion. 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: This is why it's so hard to get people to 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: stop believing in Tebo. Tebo fans are religious nature. I 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: don't have to know you to know that if you're 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: a fan of Tebow, you're more religious than I am. 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Even if you say I once believed in Tebow but 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: now I don't anymore, you still probably deeply believe a 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: lot more in Tebow than I do, because I never did. 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Even after you see his abhorrently low completion percentage and stats, 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you probably still believe a little bit. So the study 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: made complete sense to me. I can't convince you, if 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: you're once a Tebow fan that he's insanely below average. 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: It's the reality of his fan base. They are so religious. 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Even if they had quit religion, there's still a belief 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: with religion. And I think he has a connection that 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: is so much deeper than other athletes do in America. 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: You may like Steph Curry shot, you may like his game, 46 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: but you don't go somewhere personal with Steph Curry. And 47 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: with Tim you are aligned on a deeply personal level, 48 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: regardless of you've ever met him or not. And so 49 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I think that's why, even though he's disappeared from football 50 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: for eight years, comes back, he still leads the NFL 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: and merchandise sales. Your relationship with Tim goes well beyond 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: even Tom Brady because it's deeper than your relationship with Brady. 53 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: And with that Fox Sports NFL analyst co host Good 54 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Morning America, the Hall of Famer still holds a record 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: for most sacks in a season twenty two and a 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: half defensive end fifteen years played, all those years with 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the Giants early nineties to two thousand and seven, and 58 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champ number forty two. Michael Strahan, So 59 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: you know it's funny, Michael, I was thinking about this 60 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: as I knew I was going to do this interview. 61 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: So you have Good Morning America, one hundred thousand dollar pyramid, 62 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports on sun Days. And it's so funny to 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: me because occasionally I don't consider myself a workaholic. I 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: just get off at noon. So I thought, what the hell, 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: why can't I start another company? So do you ever? 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what I think. I'm like. People don't understand, Michael. 67 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: I just talk. I got people working for me. So 68 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: when you do all these jobs, does anybody ever come 69 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: to you and go, Michael, you're just a workaholic. You 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: got to enjoy life. And do you ever think the 71 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: hell you ever done? Television? As long as your prep 72 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: and have your sleep, it's fun exactly. And you know, 73 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I think coming from football, I very much think like you. 74 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: I talked for a living. I've done all the physical 75 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: stuff that my body allowed me to do for long 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: as I wanted it could do it. And this is 77 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: just like gravy on top of everything. So I talked 78 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: for a living. As you said, you get a lot 79 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: of You gotta have a lot of support. You gotta 80 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of people. It's not like we wake 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: up and have to handle everything we have people kind 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: of put it to where we need to be and 83 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: we need to be there at least I do, and 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: it just it makes my life a lot easier. But 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a workaholic like you. I just 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: feel like I got some time where I can do 87 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: other things. And I think, as you are, I have 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: other interests. So I do things that keep me interested 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: in the world and in life and keep me going 90 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and being a football player with one of those things. 91 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: But when that ended I was thirty six. I got 92 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: a long way to go. My friend, I can't quite 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: be done yet. What am I shit at home and 94 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: talk to my kids that you gotta work hard and 95 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: they never see me go to work. Kind of hard 96 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: to do that. So now I think my kids will 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: understand what hard work is. And I love what I 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: do like you. I love what I do, and I 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: love seeing you on Sunday That Fox and the Crazy 100 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: thing is like you. I fly back and forth all 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: the time do that show. And I don't do this 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: show financially, really no, it's because I love the guys. 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: It's like the team and a locker room and things 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: that I missed the most. I'm playing foot all is 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: that I don't miss the pain. I don't miss the practice, 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't the games. Kind of miss that. It's kind 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: of cool walking out eight other people screaming, and that 108 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: will never be replaced. But everything else I try to 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: replace as much as I can with the people out 110 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: to round myself with. And that's what work gives me. Well, 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you grew up military in Germany, so it's 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: it's really interesting. There's not many. I mean, now everything's 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: very global. You were kind of a global citizen. That's 114 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: very NBA that that's very soccer. You were like a 115 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: global citizen as an NFL guy. And it's funny because 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: I was just talking to a friend the other day 117 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: about this, Um, I want to go to Switzerland. I 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: want to take my kids to Switcherland. They want to go, 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: and he goes, well, it's got to Germany. Feel it's 120 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of boring. They work hard and that's it. And 121 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? And he goes, you 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: gotta remember in Europe, he goes, the Greeks are having 123 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: a blast, the Italians are drinking wine, the Spaniards are party. 124 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: In Germans work, save money, make money, so exactly when 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: they drink beer at beer at at you know, at 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: their lunch break, so they have some fuff. What do 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: you remember though, because you're you're younger, I mean, is 128 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: do you have this like memory of Germany that stays 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: with you? I mean I have four or five little 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: childhood memories, not a lot, you know, trips to Mount 131 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Rainier in Seattle or you know, trips vacate. What if 132 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I said to you Germany strongest memory? Um, every Friday night, 133 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: gone with my parents to the Houston House and having 134 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: a cut on blue or Snitzel with fries, and having 135 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the lady at the Houston House when I have the 136 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: kid squeezed my cheeks every single Friday. It's just you know, 137 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: you have you say cut in German, that's what she 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: needs to do. It grabbed my cheeks every freaking Friday. 139 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: So I just remember, you know, being with my family. 140 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And of course you remember the ottobon. I'm a card fanatic, 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: so um, watching cards fly up and down the autobon 142 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. Yeah, I remember those things. 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: But one thing I do appreciate about growing up over there, 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: just the being around different people and different cultures and 145 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: being able to travel. My dad and I used to 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: go to Spain every year and go fishing together. And 147 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: just Australia. I'm not Australia, but like we used to 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: go skiing and Switzerland. We used to do all that 149 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: for school trips. I mean, how awesome is that? So 150 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: th those other things that I remember is just like 151 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: you said, being a world citizen and understanding that the 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: world's a lot bigger than the place that most guys 153 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: just grow up and they never leave or they go 154 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: back to in the off season. And for me, I 155 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: used to go to Germany and now I love to 156 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: take my kids on trips to Europe and I'm taking 157 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: them to South Africa, you name it, just so that 158 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: they can see that the world a lot bigger than 159 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: just the environment that they grow up in every day. 160 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I sent my daughter to Cape Town for the summer 161 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: for a leadership council. She loved two months there. Yeah, 162 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: I can live there. I mean I've taken my trip 163 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: my kids all around the world. That by far is 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: the one trip they say we want to go back. 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: They want to go back to South Africa, they want 166 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: to go back to Kate Pound, they want to go 167 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: back on Safari, And you kind of you get on 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: some of these trips and you kind of think, well, 169 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: maybe this one is an adult trip. And I have 170 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: my kids here, and even though they're like my youngest 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: at the time, my twins were maybe twelve, and I 172 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: had gone to South Africa before, but I wanted them 173 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: to go back when it could it would really be 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: a memory for them. And I took my older kids 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: with me as well. And you're on Safari. You're waking 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: up early in the morning for a morning ride, you're 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: working up in the app, you're going on a night ride, 178 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you're going to midday ride. The last day comes around 179 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and you're they're like, okay, you guys, you can either 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: go on a ride before you take off you leave, 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: or you can just relax. And everybody's like, we want 182 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: to go out again. It's so so interesting and I 183 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: found it is the best trip because of the trip 184 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: that they learned so much and just nature and seeing 185 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: these animals in their now natural habitat, like you're walking 186 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: down the street and not saying like you're walking down 187 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: street the lion there, but as the potential and you realize, 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: I got I paid all this money from a vacation 189 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I could potentially die on. I'm a lot smart, that is, 190 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: But I I love South After It's my favorite trip, 191 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: my family's favorite trip you've ever taken. If I said 192 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: to you, you're you're my travel guide, little overrated, don't 193 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: waste my money. You've given me Cape Town's the best, 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: so give me underrated and a little overrated in Europe 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: underrated from me to one of the best trips I had. Croatia. 196 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I've heard that Jesse Palmer told me that. Man, I thought, oh, 197 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to Croatia, Well, you know, okay at some 198 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: places different than we've gone before. Fan freaking why why 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: the people, just the culture, the easiest of it. It 200 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: was sexier than I thought it was. I mean, just 201 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: an amazing trip. And and and I don't know something 202 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: special about Croatian and not that I've ever had a 203 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: bad trip to Europe. And I must say, like Germany. 204 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I love Germany. It was incredible to grow up there. 205 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily look and think, oh, let's book a 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: trip to Germany, per se and if and if I do, 207 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: it will be kind of a pass through on the 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: way to somewhere else. But I did. I do like 209 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Berlin and some of the other major cities like that, 210 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: and they do have the great castles in the Great history. 211 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: So I enjoyed all of that in another trip that 212 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: I took um before the pandemic hit Israel. That was 213 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: special Israel, special, nice beaches, nice beaches, um, incredible history 214 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: if you're religious or not, the religious history, and and 215 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: just just walking through the steps there that Jesus walked through, 216 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: And even though in a lot of ways a lot 217 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: of it has been commercialized, but to just go there 218 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and see it and be a part of it and 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: get the feeling of it and seeing how how committed 220 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: people are to their beliefs and their religion and their 221 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: people was really special. Yeah. I doubt Jesus walked past 222 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: a burger king, but nonetheless it was really chick filate. 223 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: What are you talking about, sick chack um. So we 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: do have some news today. Jim Fossil, you're one of 225 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: your coaches passed away, his son, of course, a special 226 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: Team's coach. What is your strongest memory of Jim? Well, Well, 227 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: first of all, so I want to say I've had 228 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people reach out to be 229 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: to comment on this, and I just want people to 230 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: understand I really haven't talked to anybody about it, and 231 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: you and I we've had this, this this talk set 232 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: up for a long time, so I don't want anybody 233 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: else out there. My friends another who are has asked me, 234 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: and I haven't had a chance to get back to 235 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: them that I'm missing them. But you and I've had this, 236 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: like I said, set up. And my best memory of 237 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Jim Fossil, I loved he was a great coach and 238 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: he was a great guy to be around. And people 239 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: got this thing that I always say the players coach, 240 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: but what I meant by that, and I think because 241 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: it was from California, he had this whole laid back 242 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: demeanor to people that they thought that that coach Fossil 243 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: was just laid back, chill guy. Players get what they 244 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: want to know. He was tough. I've never had practices 245 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: as tough as him as his I mean, this guy 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: was a piece of work and they're the reason that 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: we won three division championship to his seven years. He 248 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: went to a Super Bowl. And my best memory with 249 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: him is just conversed, having conversations. He treated you with respect, 250 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: He treated you as a human being, as not just 251 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: a football player, and he's the kind of guy you 252 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: wanted to play for. And I think that when I 253 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: look at his legacy, especially with the Giants, I mean, 254 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: this is a guy that took the team that he inherited, 255 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: that at the point was on the down swing and 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: one Coach of the year and beat the Minnesota Biakings 257 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: that were whipping everybody. Forty wanted nothing to go to 258 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Super Bowl that work out the way 259 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: that we wanted. But he was an incredible coach And 260 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: my biggest not my biggest regret, but the one thing 261 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: that I looked at and upset to me the most 262 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: is that he didn't get another chance to coach somewhere else, 263 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: because I've seen coaches who have not had anywhere near 264 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: his success get chances to coach again in this league 265 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: and didn't have success there either, And I've never quite 266 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: understood that. But all I know is that I had 267 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: an incredible time with him. He was the most the 268 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: most important coacher at that point in my life. I'm 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: probably ever because I made my first Pro Bowls with him. 270 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: He gave it the freedom to be a player and 271 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: to be a leader, and to get out on the 272 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: football field and just played uninhibited, not worried about getting 273 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline and making a mistake. But you know, 274 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: if you did make a mistake, get out there make 275 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: up for it. He was just an incredible coach who 276 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: empowered his players. That he empowered me to have the 277 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: career that I've had. It was no secret that I 278 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: had the success with Jim Fossil. 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When I I'm not surprised by your success. 315 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I remember interviewing Charles Barkley when I was a reporter 316 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: and he was really genuinely funny and it was like, oh, 317 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: he's going to be successful. And you know, Tony Romo, 318 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: You're like, he's going to be successful. Yeah. I didn't 319 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: get to cover you though, so I didn't get Michael 320 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: Strahan on a day to day basis and the tea 321 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: in the markets I worked in early in my career. 322 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: You just you weren't there. In football is different. A 323 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: guy comes into town, I get one shot at him, 324 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: You're gone, and usually we go for the offensive players. 325 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, yeah, I know, I know, 326 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: always offense we get it. Was there a moment Michael 327 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: for you? I mean you're naturally you're a high verbal 328 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: but was there a moment you're sitting watching TV I 329 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: can do that? Or what was the epiphany? What was 330 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: the lightbulb moment for you and you're like, shit, man, 331 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: this TV thing, I think I can do it. Did 332 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: somebody lead you there? Or did you lead you there. Well, 333 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: I think I think my whole career has been watching 334 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: people do stuff and think I can do it. I 335 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: played football one year in high school because I used 336 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: to watch in Germany we called a Tuesday morning football 337 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: because Monday night is Tuesday morning there. I used to wait, 338 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: go to bed early and wake up early where I 339 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: went to school to see that, to watch and think, oh, 340 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I can do that. And my dad had more belief 341 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: in me than anybody, so he sent me to the 342 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: state to get a scholarship, which at the end of 343 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: the day leaving Tech, the Southern led me here. And 344 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: after football, I think because I didn't grow up playing football, 345 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: and I never thought that football was the only thing 346 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: that I could do that I and my dad had 347 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: a win not if attitude. That was this thing he 348 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: always said when he never told me if Colin, So 349 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: I never had doubt, but if I tried something that 350 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: was gonna work out. And granted not everything has worked out, 351 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: believe me, but everything that I've felt that I've use 352 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: a learning tool to help me do the next thing. 353 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: And TV, of course, you watch people you think that 354 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: you can do that, but it's a lot harder what 355 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: you do now on radio or what you do on TV, 356 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and it's a lot harder than it looks and one 357 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: of the hardest things for people to do. You see 358 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: so many great athletes, they have great personalities, but the 359 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: second the camera hits them, you're like, where is it? 360 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I know, because it's hard to be yourself in front 361 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: of the camera, and I think that's the biggest trick. 362 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: And then to be an athlete. For me, the biggest 363 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: challenge doing what I do now is you're so used 364 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: to as I'm sitting here with you now, you're asking 365 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: me questions. Right How when you have to ask other 366 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: people questions, you have to be interested in them and 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: what they do. It's not about you. You have to 368 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: remove your remove your ego if you have one. That 369 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: is the hardest thing I think about being on radio 370 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: or being on TV is that it really isn't about you, 371 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: and you have to learn an ask question. I always 372 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: be the one who's being asked a question. So yeah, 373 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: I always thought I could do it, but once I 374 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: got into it, I realized just how hard it was 375 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: and I had to work at it as hard as 376 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: I workday playing football, playing and simple It's not easy 377 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: at all. On Good Morning America. There are some politics involved, 378 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not a political I tend to be socially, 379 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm left. You know, I was pro gay marriage before Obama. 380 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: I grew up in Washington State, so I was pro 381 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: marijuana legalization. Yeah, it had to be. I was surrounded 382 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: by plants, exactly, So I pretty socially laughed fiscally, I 383 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: can be moderate to write. You know, I'm a business guy. 384 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm a capitalist. Yeah you so. And people have said, 385 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: you know you're calling you you don't talk politics, And 386 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: my takeaway is, I think I don't have to talk 387 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: about everything I believe in, Like I can just talk 388 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: football and basketball because that's what my audience wants. When 389 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: I think of you, I don't even think politics. Yet 390 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: you're on a show that talks politics, and it's really funny. 391 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm guessing here. I have no inside information, but I've 392 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: said before I would vote I was not a Trump 393 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: fan at all, but but I would vote for a conservative. 394 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I voted for Obama despite very little experience in politics 395 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: because I liked the man. I just thought he was 396 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: intellectual enough to figure crap out if you put him 397 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: in the White House. That's kind of my rule on life, 398 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think of you nothing comes up in politics, 399 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: although you're too smart not to have opinions on politics, 400 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: And do you purposely avoid it? Or is this are 401 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: you somebody that embraces both sides? Where if I could 402 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: ask kind of I don't even think of you as 403 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: having a political stand, but I know you're in the 404 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: middle of it all the time. Well, I think that 405 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: anybody that just think that their side is the only 406 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: side and the only thing that's right now and the 407 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: other side always wrong, I think you short change yourself. 408 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: I think one thing about you, know, being in this country, 409 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: is you have to listen. You have to learn, you 410 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: have to understand why other people think that the way 411 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: that they think. And for me, I definitely have my 412 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: opinions about politics and I cover politics. But as you said, 413 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: in your job of what you're doing people, so why 414 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: did you talk about politics? This is your job isn't 415 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: necessarily to talk about politics from your job to talk 416 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: about sports, and if politics intersects with it, then you 417 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: can have that conversation. For me, my job is to 418 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: discuss politics, to discuss what's going on in the world 419 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: about GMA, But my job isn't necessarily to give you 420 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: my opinion. My job is to give you information so 421 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: you can form your own opinion on the information that 422 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: you're given, which is the information on what the truth is. 423 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: So my job is to try to tell you the 424 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: truth and you make your own decision. And I'm not 425 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: here to convince you to believe what I believe. But 426 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: we can have a discussion, and I'm gladly open to 427 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: having discussions. But for work, my job is to deliver information, 428 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: and it's no different than politics or anything else that 429 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: happens in this world. Deliver you the information, you make 430 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: your decision on what you think about it. And one 431 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: of the hardest things sometimes is not to jump in 432 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: and say, well, come on, you believe it. I'll come on, 433 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: that's garbage this, That's not my job to do that. 434 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: My job is to be objectives. And I think that's 435 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: the hard thing about the job. But I also think 436 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: it's the right thing about the job, because I don't 437 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: think the news and being in the media, your job 438 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: is necessarily disuade somebody to believe your thoughts. It's just 439 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: the job of you is just to give them the 440 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: information that they need to develop their own. I have 441 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: this feeling. Most of my friends are not in television 442 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: and radio. Almost none of them mine either crazy, almost none. 443 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: It's nothing against them, but I you know, I tell 444 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: people I'm married and divorced and remarried. Neither wife like sports, 445 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: neither ever listened to me. And I always say, this 446 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: is I go I can I can disconnect, like I 447 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want to talk sports when I get home. That's 448 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: not my thing. My wife's an artist, a designer. I 449 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: want to enter your world, and people have said, you know, 450 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe, and I'm like, I don't want my 451 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: wife to wear a Baker Mayfield jersey when I get home. 452 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm like. If I said to you, 453 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: you don't even have to tell me the people, I'm 454 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: gonna say, Michael, you're five best friends. Don't tell me 455 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: the names. What do they do? Oh? One of the 456 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: sports and I'll give you the name Jake Weser. I mean, obviously, 457 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: all right. But the crazy thing is Jay and I 458 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: and we don't talk sports. I think Jay and I've 459 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: just been friends to twenty eight years at the point 460 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: where we talk about life, we talk about our kids, 461 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: and we talk about you know we they don't talk sports, 462 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, on Sundays when we see each other, we 463 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: laughed and we joke about everything else in memories of 464 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: what happened, what we've been through in our lives. It's 465 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: more we just crack jokes on each other. So Jay, 466 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: who's in sports, UM one is a doctor. Um the 467 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: others are finance guys the finance business. UM one is 468 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: just a businesswoman who runs a variety of different businesses 469 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and um yeah it's mostly financed medical and one TV guy. 470 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: And then most of my friends be honest with you, 471 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: I have friends. Both of my friends are retired cops, 472 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: um my golf and Buddy, who I played more golf 473 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: than any with anybody, is worked in a restaurant, so 474 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: he's been unemployed for over a year. So I like 475 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: being around normal people and not saying that you're not 476 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: normal if you have a high profile job. But I 477 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: just like being around people who their their lives are 478 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: so different from mine. I don't want somebody who I 479 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: have to talk about work with all the time. That's 480 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: no fun. I want to leave work at work to 481 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: come home and have a different life. And it's funny 482 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: when my kids said, what are you doing today? To 483 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: A because I said, well, this is my schedule. That's 484 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: my schedule, this is when I'll be home. And today 485 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: I saw the podcast Colin Or like, you know, I 486 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: get a text method good luck on your podcast. Like 487 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: when I get home, they'll go, how was your podcast? 488 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was great? And then we'll talk about homework. 489 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about how much school work they have left 490 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: before the school and how many days they have left, 491 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: which is two before the school and before school. And 492 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: so I like my life to be very separate and 493 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: I like to have diverse interests and I think that's 494 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: why my career is different. It's not so centered just 495 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: on sports. Okay, I'm gonna throw a sports when that 496 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: I want. Here's a hypothetical. This is this is a 497 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: hypo I do like. I like theories and hypothetical. Let's 498 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, give it to me. What if I 499 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: told you, Michael Strand, there's this guy, He's considered the 500 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time, has all the record rings, MVPs. 501 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: Nobody could beat him except for this other guy who 502 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: beat him twice in the Super Bowl. Wouldn't that make 503 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: the other guy the greatest quarterback of all time. Necessarily 504 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily, it means that the other guy team, because 505 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: football is not one person, the other guy's team showed 506 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: up and probably played better as a team and finished strong, 507 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: and that that guy showed up and had his biggest 508 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: moments or moments at the biggest time, and the other 509 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: guy had a lot of big moments and a lot 510 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: of times to do it, which I am quite jealous of. 511 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: By the way, here's what's funny. So the first time 512 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: you beat them, I'm in New York, I'm at an 513 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Irish bar. It's Week seventeen. You lose to New England, 514 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: and I remember watching that game and thinking, shit, they're 515 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: not that far off. And then and then you go 516 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Michael, the very first play, New 517 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: England tried some reverse or something clever Boom stuffed it, 518 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, Okay, this reminds me a little 519 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: a Week seventeen where you were winning one on one battles. 520 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Go back to Week seventeen, the first time you played 521 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: New England. Okay, they wrap it up, they go undefeated. 522 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: You're leaving the field. Was there something in your mind 523 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: saying we're not that that game was closer than people think. 524 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I said it earlier today. Had we 525 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: not beaten, had we not played in the week seventeen, 526 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we went to Super Bowl. I think 527 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: when we played in Week seventeen, we had already locked 528 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: up the spot in the playoffs. We were going to 529 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: play Tampa the next week. Yeah. I remember in the 530 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: meetings that the coaches really aren't putting in the game 531 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: playing and they're like, well, we don't want to put 532 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: in much because we put it in. We got to 533 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: see the Bucks next week. We all don't want to 534 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: give anything away. So we're gonna go out here and 535 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: have a very vanilla offensive defense this week. And we 536 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: were wondering if we were going to play or not, 537 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: if Kauflin was going to rest us. And I'd never forget, 538 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: and I remember saying it in my pregame speech because 539 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: if we pretty much came from Coughlin that hey, they're 540 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: not resting their guys, why aren't we resting our guys? 541 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: And if we got to be out here to play, 542 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: let's play. In the bottom line, whether the right decision 543 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: because you see teams rest or star players when there's 544 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: nothing to play for. But that game gave us so 545 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: much confidence, especially as the team that no one expected 546 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: anything from. And we're walking off the field and like yesterday, 547 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: I remember this human europe group put his arm around 548 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: me and said, straight, if we or when we when 549 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: we see them again, we will beat them. And first 550 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: thought my mind was, first of all, I wasn't thinking 551 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: back because I'm thinking, well, we got a long way 552 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: to go on the way we see them as on 553 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and I know we've been a little hot, 554 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know if we're that hot. Yeah. I 555 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: never thought that, but OC and the younger guys had 556 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: that in their mind. That was more focused on the 557 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: next week. And but we're low and behold, we we 558 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: beat Green Bay and we're going through the Super Bowl 559 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: and everyone thought we had no shot. You felt it, yeah, 560 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: But for some reason, we were the most relaxed we'd 561 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: ever did. We were a chill at practice, was fun, 562 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: coughling the order to ind and out burger truck and 563 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: either just slopping down too in and out burger. That 564 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: was a sight to see. He just showed how relax 565 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: we were. And my message to the gods was relax, 566 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: It's just football. The same thing that God is here 567 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: is going to be the thing that's going to help 568 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: us win. Just the practices practice football's football. But then 569 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: they were too relax in my opinion. But after saying relax, 570 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell them not to relax to the like unrelaxed. 571 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: So I had to roll with it. And it was 572 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: just a sense of confidence that we had and I 573 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: knew it when we had it. That morning we walked 574 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: down to breakfast before the game and same guy OC. 575 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I was a guy who decided 576 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: to talk to all the time, but he looked at 577 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: me and he goes straight, we gotta get to Tom 578 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: Brady to win this game. If we don't get to 579 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, we're not gonna win this game. And I'm thinking, 580 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: what you've been You've been watching TV because that's what 581 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: everyone he said it, like, whoa, that's that's something good analysis, OC, 582 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: you got a future in TV, which he's gone on 583 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: to have an incredible future in TV over in Europe. 584 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: Um so. But when he said it, it was a 585 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: look in his eye that I hadn't seen all week, 586 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Like it was a focus. It was a it's game. 587 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: They were ready and we got on that field, and 588 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: from that first play you realize everybody locked in. It's 589 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: the one game. We have eleven guys on that field, 590 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: and all eleven are locked in. There's a lot of life, 591 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: not like nine and two guys, they're not focused. All 592 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: eleven on both sides of the ball were locked in 593 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: and the results ended up being what they were. And 594 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: that's us giving what I call the greatest upset in 595 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: football history. I remember it well. I lived in Connecticut 596 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: and all I remember I remember the final week seventeen 597 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: and you guys winning some personal battles on the d line. 598 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: And then I remember in the first series thinking, oh shit, 599 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Giants are winning all those battles up front. This is 600 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: gonna be low score. All I remember is thinking it's 601 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna be low scoring. If you're losing those battles in 602 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: the first series. You're not going crazy though, because they 603 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: was scoring, like go thirty five points a game. And 604 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: believe me, we're hitting Tom so fast like guys are 605 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: in the backfield before you felt like you came off 606 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You're like, shit, how I tucked 607 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: it back there? How do else he get back? How 608 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: could be commntioned to get back. How Fred Robbins to 609 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: get back here? How Barry Coldfield get back? The guys 610 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: are hitting him so frequently and so fast in his 611 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: face and just in his passing, laying his hands up 612 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: had him scrambling, and it felt as if like, are 613 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: they tricking us? Are they even making it easy? Just 614 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: to turn it up? Like what's going on? But once 615 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I saw Tom get upset, slam the ball down a 616 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: few times, yelled at a few guys, I said, we're 617 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: that good right now, We're rolling, and we just got 618 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: to keep it going. Can we maintain it for four quarters? 619 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: That was the question. But I think we had enough 620 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: guys who were hungry enough and enough of a rotation 621 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: on defense and everywhere else on our team that we 622 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: were able to maintain enough. You're a big personality. You 623 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: crushed in New York. Jeter talks never says anything. Same 624 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: with Eli. Eli never says anything, but he can talk forever. 625 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: It's funny the New I mean, as a Southern kid, 626 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: the New York media really embraced Eli. I mean, he 627 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: doesn't fit if I'd told you southern kid brother to Peyton. 628 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: Everybody loved Eli. They just loved Elie and yet did 629 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: the media embrace you in New York that quickly or 630 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: did it take a while? It took a while. Man, 631 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever really embraced me. I 632 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: was hard on Nim. They were hard on me. I 633 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: was hard on nim Pile. I didn't give them an 634 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: you didn't know what it was. I was a second 635 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: pick in the draft, second round. They didn't have a 636 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: first round pick, and they picked Dave Brown in the 637 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: supplemental draft, so I was technically the first pick fortieth overall. 638 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: I came out in the year with Eric Curry, John Copeland, Coleman, 639 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: rude Off, Carl Simpson, Dan Williams, who else was that? 640 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Todd Kelly, all these guys picked in front of me 641 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: in the draft. I think when I came in New York, 642 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: no one really knew. I came out of Texas Southern 643 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: University nineteen sacks for my senior year. Forty somethings acton 644 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: college like I was great, But they said, oh, this 645 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: is that, the TSU, HBCU, the competition, all these excuses. 646 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: So I don't think they really expected much of me. 647 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna be a guy who came through a 648 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: draft pick they took a chance on that. I think 649 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: that a lot of people felt may last a few 650 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: a little while, may give them a little something here 651 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: and there, but never had the career that I had. 652 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time that was a motivating factor 653 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: to me and the media. At times. I wasn't probably 654 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: the easiest guy to deal with. I was joyful, and 655 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: I was funny, and I Greg gave a great sound bite. 656 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: But if you came at me wrong, I came back 657 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: at If people don't know not to call him, I'm 658 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: on this thing. But if I if you came at 659 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: me wrong, I didn't take it. I came back at 660 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: you in the media. But by the end of my career, 661 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: the last three years of my career, I got divorced 662 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: and you said, you know you're married Mary or whatever. 663 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: I got divorced. Man. It was the hardest thing I'd 664 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: ever gone through in my life. Especially you're on the 665 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: front cover of the paper for being a great like 666 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: our worst husband, and they're getting divorced and you're on 667 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: the back cover of the paper forbidding as incredible football player. 668 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: But it taught me not to really care anymore. So 669 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: when it came to the media, I was more upset 670 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: when they talked about my teammates than ever was about me, 671 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: because I realized you couldn't do what I was doing. 672 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: I could do and talk about people like you're talking about. 673 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: You can't put on a uniform and go out there 674 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: and perform on the field. So your opinion really didn't 675 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: matter to me anymore, and I embraced that. I also 676 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: embraced the fact that you kind of need me to 677 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: do your job. I don't need to talk to you, 678 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: so I would come. I would come in and tell 679 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the media I only talked two days the week. I 680 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: told our PR guy, I only got to talk two 681 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: days the week. So I would come into the locker 682 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: room every day I talked to the media, knew everybody's name, 683 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: would joke with them and say, hey, you know your 684 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: wife feel married to you? Let her know it's feel 685 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: not too late. My god, you had to realize it yet. 686 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: Like I used to mess with guys, you have fun. 687 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: But if you ask me one football question on the 688 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: day that I said that I would not talk about football, 689 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: I would shut it down and say, come on, man, 690 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: you know how to talk about football, and I walk 691 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: away like I controlled the narrative by the end of 692 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: my career and controlled the conversation with the media. And 693 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: I think that by doing that, I made myself more 694 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: interesting to them because they saw me probably as volatile. 695 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I saw it as I'm learning to play your game 696 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: where you're using me, or I'm gonna learn to use you, 697 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: and it worked in my benefit. Plus, I used to 698 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: tell the young guys all the time, being here in 699 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: New York, it's a lot of things to do, a 700 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of clubs to go to, a lot of parties, 701 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people. If you're supposed to be a 702 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: huge star, or if you're supposed to be special and 703 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: you show up at a club every night, you're just 704 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: another patron. Right pretty soon your star factor diminishes. You're 705 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: just another patron who comes to the club, and it's 706 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: not so such a big deal who you are. Scarcity, So, 707 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: scarcity of my conversations with the media, scarcity of my 708 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: answers about what was coming up in the game or 709 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: my thoughts on the game, created a buzz around talking 710 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: to me. So I realized when I did show up 711 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: at a club or when I did give a comment 712 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: in the paper, he was going to be a bigger deal. 713 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: So I understood how to play the game. I kind 714 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: of figured it out just by being here and just 715 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: have to learn those things. Boy, that's smart. Jack Nicholson, 716 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: the Great Jack Nicholson, would not go on Late Night 717 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: show to talk about his movie. He says, I want 718 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: to be a little bit of an enigma, a little 719 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: bit of a mystery. To your point, then, where appearances 720 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: are special network out for him? He did, all right, Okay, 721 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: So you have a you have a clothing line. You've 722 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: been on this thing for I think three years or longer. Well, 723 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: it depends. You know. We've had our MSX line and 724 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: now we have our NFL collecting NFL online and that's 725 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: been about two years. Our MSX line has been about 726 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: five years with our at leisure brand, and our suit 727 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: collection line has been about seven years now. So it's 728 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: been a while. We've been at this for quite a while, man, 729 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of fun, a different muscle to exercise. Well, 730 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, somebody once told me about this. 731 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: They said, when you go in these side businesses as 732 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: a celebrity, a lot of celebrities think I just put 733 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: my name on it doesn't work. It doesn't work out, Michael, 734 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta make calls to you know, banks, 735 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: And I mean you've probably found this out. TV is easy, 736 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: and then you get into this business and it's it's work. 737 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: It is work. And one thing I found out as well, 738 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. And if you want a 739 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: business to succeed, all the energy that I put into football, 740 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: I have to put into these other businesses I have 741 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: to put into TV. So all these businesses take up 742 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot more time than football ever took up. Not 743 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: physically or physically the way because I have to be there, 744 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: to have to be present, but mentally it's exhausting and 745 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of time. But I love it. 746 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: And if you want something bad enough, and you believe 747 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: in something bad enough, you have to work hard at it. 748 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: And the clothing business for me is something that's organic. 749 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in suits every day. I want to 750 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: look good. I want to dress nize. I'm casual in between. 751 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: I want to, you know, look a certain way when 752 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: I hit the gym or at leisure is very important, 753 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: or work leisure where I want to be able to 754 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: work but yet be comfortable and yet be able to 755 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: go run throughout my day, but I have to change 756 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: twenty outfits. So all those things required for me to 757 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: be in meeting, to be present, to give my opinion 758 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: and let people know my style. Because if I'm not 759 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: gonna wear it in the hell else it's gonna wear it. 760 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: So all these things are reflection of me and my 761 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: life down and what I like it, what I wear 762 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: and everything I wear is my brand. And it's kind 763 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: of embarrassing you put on the underwear with your name 764 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: on it, but hey, it is what it is. And 765 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, I always say, hey, man, I'll wear anything, 766 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: and he all he comes to the office and he 767 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: just loads up on everything he's I refuse the way underwear. 768 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: I just can't have your name around my waist. But 769 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: Terry and Howie and Jimmy and all these guys, they 770 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: wear it and they said everything. They love it. They 771 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. So that makes me proud and happy 772 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: to see my friends appreciate what I do and to 773 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: see people in the street at airports or whatever wearing 774 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: it and coming up to me, because it lets me 775 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: all the hard work. Is Panoff ms X by Michael 776 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: Strahan dot com, available at Men's warehouse, his two Men 777 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: and Boys clothing lines called Collection by Michael Strahan and 778 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: m s X by Michael Strahan. You're busy. You didn't 779 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: have to do this. You did. You've always been great 780 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: to me. I appreciate it, Michael. Thank you. Hey, I 781 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man. I alway, I love it. But can't 782 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: wait to get out there and September and see you 783 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: in the studio when in his football season, baby, because 784 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing to see them flies by. The 785 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: older you get, the more you do this, it flies by, 786 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: and I miss my guys. Can't wait to get back 787 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: there with you guys and start this whole season next 788 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: season over again. Thanks Michael, all right, but thanks all right. 789 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Great stuff with Strahan strays a good dude. Follow us 790 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: at the Volume Sports on Twitter and Instagram, rate review 791 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: and subscribe. Fun stuff little football in the middle of 792 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs. We wouldn't do it for anybody, but you 793 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: get Michael Strahan. Of course we're gonna talk to him. 794 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: By the way, what he showed me before we did 795 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: the interview, I'm not going to show you. But what 796 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: he showed me is his car collection. Wow. First of all, 797 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: he's got a really big garage. Secondly, next to Jerry Seinfeld, 798 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: that's the most well, maybe Jay Leno too. That's one 799 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: of the most incredible high end car collections I've ever seen. 800 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: Dude loves his automobiles. I mean, Kamoni grew up in Germany, Audobon. 801 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: Of course, he does see you soon. The volume