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Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with i R Radio. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say Ashley, all Right. So

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Speaker 1: I sat when I first saw it, I was sitting

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Speaker 1: in the press room of Women Till All and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I cannot wait a week to talk to

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Speaker 1: to spoil it for anyone because it was so good

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Speaker 1: that I thought that somebody needed to experience at firsthand.

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Speaker 1: So I literally just went around for an entire week

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Speaker 1: being like, wait, do you guys see this? It is

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Speaker 1: the most dramatic episode you are ever going to see.

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Speaker 1: And I also feel so bad being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: how good? How dramatic? Right because Colton is heartbroken? I

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Speaker 1: was like, while watching it, so sad after frenzied. You know, So, okay,

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Speaker 1: everybody out there listening right now, you just heard Ashley

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Speaker 1: explode with excitement. Because I'll be honest, and in the

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Speaker 1: week that she's seen that, she's she hasn't caught me

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Speaker 1: up on it. She hasn't caught anybody up on it.

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Speaker 1: She just wants to talk about it so bad, and

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Speaker 1: we're here tonight to do it. We're up here in

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Speaker 1: Malibu at a live podcast. If you hear some background noise,

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Speaker 1: that's about I don't know, what do you think? Four people, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: four hundred fans out here just celebrating with us, loving

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Speaker 1: Colton's last one of his last episodes of this season,

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Speaker 1: and it did not disappoint. So we're gonna jump right

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Speaker 1: into it. We're gonna start out with the first part

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Speaker 1: of the date Portugal did not disappoint, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start with Tasha. We can't forget about Tasha. She's still here. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: actually this wasn't the most exciting episode ever because Tasia's

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Speaker 1: part waited down. I mean, I agree, it was almost

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Speaker 1: the first. It had to be there because if it

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Speaker 1: was just Cassie the whole time, I would have exploded

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Speaker 1: with anticipation and anxiety. I know, well, I know, but

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Speaker 1: you I think they had to stretch out Tatia's part.

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Speaker 1: Think they didn't have the handah ge date, so like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well it's pretty much gonna be I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree. I wish there would have been more. I

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Speaker 1: wish we would have got more dialogue with her about

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Speaker 1: where she was coming from internally, because here's the question.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it later with a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people from Batchel Nation. I mean, we've got Tanner here,

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Speaker 1: We've got Analyze here, We've got Jade, We've got Jared,

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Speaker 1: We've got a ridiculous amount of bach Nation in the house. Today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him about this whole thing. I

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Speaker 1: do feel like Cassie showed up to break up with

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Speaker 1: Colton in way too good of spirits. Something was the thing. Ever,

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Speaker 1: the way she turned up and was like smiley and

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Speaker 1: and then he kind of deliver it into it, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, she was like, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this is gonna come up so fast.

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna address Tasia, because we started so we

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Speaker 1: might as well go into order. One. I want to

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Speaker 1: great question. I don't have to answer to him. We'll

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Speaker 1: I wonder, and we're gonna keep bouncing back to Cassie

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Speaker 1: exactly what I was gonna say, if I flipped it

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Speaker 1: be chasing after him. He could he could have just

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00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: lived in the you know, Portugal jungle for the next

428
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: couple of years. Fantastic. Okay, so let's slow down for

429
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: a second, because we we really got to give Tasha

430
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: the justice that it deserves. Um, we were just talking

431
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: a little bit ago. You know, Tasha is in the

432
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: Fantasy suitet Colton schooses to go to the Fantasy Sweet

433
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: with her. That's one of the things this season, you know,

434
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 1: let's let's just be question the questions that we're supposed

435
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: to be. Why did Colton do you think, choose to

436
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: do the Fantasy Sweet with Tassha when his heart was

437
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: so so sold out on Cassie. Wow, that's a good question,

438
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: especially with the whole virgin thing. And yeah, there's no

439
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: reason he can't be like, oh, I'm gonna sleep with

440
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: her just to see how it is for my last

441
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: time time. I don't think I don't think he had

442
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: any intention of getting physical with her, though I think

443
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: it was I think he was playing ball with the

444
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: with the show. I think that was the structure of

445
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: the show. Obviously, that's what you do. And I think

446
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: he probably honestly didn't even want to. I think he

447
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: probably thought it was Cassie. But at that point it

448
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: was just like, all right, I'll play your game, let's go.

449
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: That's my gun. So many of us have told him,

450
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: don't worry, you don't actually have to sleep together the

451
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: fantasy this week. I bet you less than fifty percent

452
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: of fantasy suits actually include sex. I would agree with that,

453
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: especially his, you know, but it is interesting to me

454
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: because for as much as we want to say he's

455
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: playing ball, and so much as you want to say

456
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: it's it's sit fitting in the format, we we have

457
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: to give credit where credits to. He could have put

458
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: his foot down and said, I'm not doing it, like

459
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to that fantasy suite. I'm gonna break

460
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: up with their right here during the day, and they

461
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: would have had to fall along with that storyline. They

462
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: would have had to follow where that plays out. But

463
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: he didn't, so he went to the fantasy suit with Tasha.

464
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: Tasha seems confused. She also it's very clear that she

465
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: knows after that that she's probably not going to be around.

466
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: You could tell the morning after. I mean, her whole

467
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: tone changed. She she looked like someone that got shut down.

468
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she probably wanted to, you know,

469
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: take it to the next level per se, but I

470
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: think he did not like it kind of felt like

471
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: to me that like your daughter is walking right behind you.

472
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: By the way, she's beautiful, hiam me. Um, it kind

473
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: of when they were looking at each other next morning,

474
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: it felt like a little bit of weird guilt, like

475
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: oh no, like it was so awkward and like hard

476
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: to watch. It was like, uh, they don't want to

477
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: be in that same room they think about nuts. She

478
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I don't like nuts, and I thought

479
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: it meant like way more somebody's nuts. But then he

480
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: before going into the fantasy so said like, I'm a virgin,

481
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: but I've done pretty much everything else. What does that mean?

482
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Like or yeah, that's what I'm assuming. Cold has never

483
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: felt younger to me than when that than that segment

484
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I've done everything, like I've had

485
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: sex before with a girl. He's never felt more relatable

486
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: to me because I dropped that line so many times

487
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: I've done this that I don't know that innocent that

488
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: was that It's just like a really awkward, awkward segment, Tanner,

489
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: During your time on on these shows, is it hard

490
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: for you to get physical like during the shows like this,

491
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: is there an element during it? Like fantasy sweeks to

492
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: me is always weird because the door gets closed, there's

493
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: this connotation what's going on behind the scenes, Like is

494
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: that awkward for you? Do you get used to that

495
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: or do you think Colton is watching this back this

496
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: week and going, this moment with Tasha is gonna haunt

497
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: me forever. It feels so awkward. I'm right, No, I

498
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: think it's definitely awkward. I mean to do that. I

499
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: mean in Paradise, the bed we slept in had a

500
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: camera in front of it, so it's a little different

501
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: from when I'm used to there was legit camera staring

502
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: down on our bed until we got to the overnight

503
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: day Tanner, this is like so sad, and we're totally

504
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: bringing the mood down. But you guys came out this

505
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: week about how you actually got pregnant in the fantasy suite,

506
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: your only fantasy suite, and that Jared Jade miscarried a

507
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: couple of months later. Do not know I just said, Jared, Um,

508
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: he's on your mind a lot. I mean yeah, I

509
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: mean so obviously we we kind of know what it's

510
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: like you have sex on the show. I was just

511
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: talking about how so in the house and in the

512
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: Paradise House, Um, at the resort, the camera is on

513
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: your bed at all times, up in the boom boom

514
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: room or whatever you want to call it. So we

515
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, we just did some heavy petting in there

516
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: and nothing too serious. But it was actually on our

517
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: overnight day in Tequila. Um, it was like our one

518
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: on one day, and that was the first time that

519
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Jade and I had sex. The cameras were actually gone

520
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: this time. They're like, all right, let's let's do it.

521
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, thereafter that ensued in the pregnancy.

522
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: So it was a crazy whirlwind after the show. Jade

523
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: was actually supposed to move to Nashville, if you remember.

524
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: I remember, we were gonna do the long distance thing

525
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: for you know, six months, a year, whatever it was,

526
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: and just try to make the relationship work. But as

527
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: soon as we found this out, we're like, wow, okay,

528
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: that's obviously a real life thing. It's serious. Now let's

529
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: let's make let's just jump in, move in with me,

530
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a baby. We're gonna we're gonna

531
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: make this work. Um. And shortly there after the miscarriage happened, unfortunately. Um.

532
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: But it's such a whirlwind of emotions because I mean,

533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: you guys have both been there. After the show, after

534
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: you're after you're with someone, there's so many things going

535
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: on in so many it's like the public opinions of

536
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: you and outside influences and all that. So it was

537
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: just I almost didn't even like grieve it or think

538
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: about it because I was just trying to be strong

539
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: for Jade and figure out what the hell we were like,

540
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: what was what was even going on in our lives.

541
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Because you guys think you would have gotten married that January,

542
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't, well, I mean, if if Jade was pregnant,

543
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: I know she was, I mean, like, I know, the

544
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: miscarriage happened, and September he got pregnant and pregnant in June,

545
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: and then maybe it was like August September. I'm not

546
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: sure that. I mean, because we got married on TV obviously,

547
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Bachelor would have like backed us

548
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: for a wedding, you know, I don't know. I mean,

549
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the sting. I think they celebrate

550
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: you too so well, And I think this is where

551
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: for me and what You're gonna take a pause away

552
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: from Colton season for a second, because both of your

553
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: lives and it's it's the coolest part of the show

554
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: to me. It's also the part that sometimes doesn't get

555
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: seen or felt, is the show and the experiences on

556
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: the show drastically affect real lives. Like we can watch

557
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: this and we can blame it on editing. We can say, oh,

558
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Colton jumped a fence and how crazy is that? And

559
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: how weird is that? And wild is that? But ultimately,

560
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: everything happening on Colton season is going to affect his

561
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: life in a real way. Nothing speaks to that more

562
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: than your situation. Yeah, I mean as a fan, as

563
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: a viewer, I mean, you can put kawn or laugh

564
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: at this inconvenient thing happening or even a sad thing

565
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: happening while it's on TV, because it's just a moment

566
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: in time on TV. But a lot of these decisions

567
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: that we all make, and the decisions Colton is making

568
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: right now very well could affect him forever. I mean, obviously,

569
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: my decisions in the fantasy so we had a huge

570
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: impact on on my on my life. Um and luckily

571
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: for me, I think that brought Jay Night closer together

572
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: and helped our relationship. UM. But there's so many different

573
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: turns that could take Tanna, I want to ask you

574
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: to stick around for a second and talk about, uh,

575
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: the impact that would happen if Colton were to lose

576
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: his virginity on the show, because we still don't know

577
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: if it happens or not and how that would affect

578
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,240
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Speaker 1: Robin Hood does make adulting so much easier. But we

639
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Speaker 1: have an adult on our hands on the podcast right now,

640
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Tanner Tilbert, the most adult adult I've I've ever met.

641
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: He has a child, a child in the way, and

642
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. Tanner, my question to you is, we

643
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it happens yet. We don't know if

644
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: Coulton comes back. Because of your history on the show

645
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: and because of how real this show has been for

646
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: you in a lot of ways. If Colton were to

647
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Speaker 1: lose his virginity on the show, is that a good move,

648
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: bad move? Or are you indifferent about it? Man? I

649
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: think it's a bad move. I think if if you've

650
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: waited this long, I think if you succumbed to it

651
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: on the show, I think you're just giving into the

652
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: pressures of the show it. I would wait. If I

653
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: was Colton, I hope I hope he does. They can

654
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Speaker 1: do it right after the show if they want to,

655
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: But I don't want them to feel that added pressure

656
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: because being a contest on the show, I think you

657
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: can sometimes feel that added pressure. Actually, what do you

658
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: think I mean? So here's the day we on this podcast.

659
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: We purposely tried to stay away from talking too much

660
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: about the virginity topic. It's just not it hasn't been

661
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: that interesting to us that the interesting part is Colton's relationships.

662
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: But now you know it's fantasy Stuent, we've got to

663
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: talk about it. What do you think that the pressure

664
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: of that is felt by Colton and the women? I

665
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: feel like Colton actually isn't feeling a lot of pressure

666
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to like having sex with the right person.

667
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think that he planned on doing

668
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: it with Cassie and the fantasy suite because he was

669
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: just ready and wanting to do it with her, and

670
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: he was like, this is the one than I want

671
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: to be with right now and off the show. So

672
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he was actually putting that much pressure

673
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: on himself. And I don't think like the public is

674
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: even expecting him to lose it in a fantasy suite.

675
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't think the public. Actually, this is a good

676
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: time to call it less nurse um please email us

677
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: at ben In Ashley, I heart media dot com with

678
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: your opinions. Do you care? I mean, do you care

679
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: if Polton loses virginity on this show or not? Is

680
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: that actually a storyline that we are invested into? Because

681
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: for us, I think on this podcast, we are more

682
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: invested and to what how this plays out for Colton

683
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: and and whatever woman he chooses. Yeah, it's it's the

684
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: most important thing. Tandar Tilbert, you're the man. I really

685
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy. How's life? How are you? It's better

686
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: now that I'm seeing you, buddy. It's been here. It's

687
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: been a long time, and I can't wait to hang

688
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: out the night. But hey, thanks for coming on the podcast,

689
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: thanks for having us. The uh as we say about

690
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: a Tanner Tilbert, We're gonna roll right in to Jared Haben.

691
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: Jared Haben has fired up about Cassie. The reason he's

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: coming on because he's so passionate, So honestly, as we

693
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: passed the mike to Jared here, Jared, do you know

694
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Speaker 1: Ashley my co host, Ashley, It's very nice to meet

695
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: you on Jared. Can I just say that this is

696
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: how this this is why I just called Jared in

697
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: to talk on the podcast because today he will come

698
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Ben now Apple, and he goes. I just rewatch not

699
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: only the breakup scene, but I went back in old

700
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: episodes to pick apart the dialogue to see just how

701
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: much of a liar Cassie has been. I didn't say

702
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: how much of a liar, Jared take it away. So

703
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: you know how you just get very invested in certain things,

704
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: And so I was watching the episode, I became very

705
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: invested in what happened between Cassie and Colton. And then

706
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: it just reminded me a couple of an episode a

707
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks earlier where Cassie's character was being in

708
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: question and she pushed it to the side and Kerpa,

709
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: who's actually here tonight, It was questioning whether Cassie was

710
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Speaker 1: ready to be engaged. She obviously denied it at the time,

711
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: and then here we are two weeks later and Cassie

712
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: saying she's not ready to get engaged Colton. Not only

713
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: is she not ready to get engaged Colton, she's not

714
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: even ready to be with Colton. So I was a

715
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: little infuriating watching that. I do feel bad because I

716
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: feel like Cassie might get a lot of crap this week,

717
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: like her feelings aren't strong enough to even date him.

718
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Isn't that really sad? Like the saddest And here's the

719
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: thing her, The whole thing about her dad was there's

720
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: not enough time, right. I like Colton seems like a

721
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: good guy, there's no red flags, but you're not ready

722
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: to get engaged with this guy in two weeks. And

723
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: so she went to that night saying, Okay, I'm not

724
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: ready to get engaged. I'm gonna leave. And Colton loves

725
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: her so much he was telling her we don't need

726
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: to get engaged. There's no time stamp. I just want

727
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: to be with you. I want to work through this

728
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: and see if we can get to where I think

729
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: we can get to. And Cassie was like, no, Cassie,

730
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: it was like, oh crap. So my whole excuse for

731
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: this was that one my dad doesn't feel comfortable too.

732
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to get engaged either. My dad and

733
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: I are on the same page no engagement. She thought

734
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: that was her ultimate cop out, but then Calton was like, oh,

735
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Speaker 1: we don't have to get engaged, and she had no

736
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: excuses left she has to do. She had to just admit, like,

737
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ever going to get there

738
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Speaker 1: ever with you, Ben, what are your thoughts on this

739
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: whole Cassie situation, you know, So let's backtrack a little

740
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: bit because we haven't broke it down fully. So what's

741
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: happening in the episode is she leaves Colton goes on

742
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: this date with Cassie. It leads to the obviously the

743
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: one of the most historic conversations in bachelor history, where

744
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: the two of them are talking and he's saying I

745
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: love you and she's saying I can't be there for you,

746
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and that's really where we end up, and this is

747
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: where we're starting this conversation out at. Here's my theory,

748
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Cassie's just not that into him, and as a result,

749
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Speaker 1: that's not about She's not wrong for that, we're not

750
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: for time out. She should have told him maybe a

751
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: week ago, she told her, should have told two weeks ago.

752
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: But who knows that if she was ready or not,

753
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: I for it had hit her or not until everything

754
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: was good in this episode, right until he says, my dad,

755
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: your dad didn't give me approval, and then she goes,

756
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: my dad agrees with probably the same thing. I'm thinking

757
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not ready, this isn't looking right. I'm freaking out.

758
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: My dad's not giving you approval. My dad means a

759
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: lot to me. And she starts getting her own head.

760
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: So that's where I think in her mind, she says,

761
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm done, like, this isn't gonna work no matter what,

762
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: this isn't the right thing. So I'm not blaming her

763
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: for wanting to get out, it's how she did it.

764
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: She still danced around the subject so much that even

765
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: when they sit down, sat down, she said, she didn't

766
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: just tell him, Hey, Colton, I'm sorry, I'm not that

767
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: into you, like this is gonna work. She sat down

768
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: afterwards at that night and goes, yes, this day was perfect.

769
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: It was so much fun with you and he she

770
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: let him feel her again, and that's where my problem lies. See,

771
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: my problem also lies within the past few weeks of

772
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: what happened with Cassie, because if you remember the episode

773
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Speaker 1: that Colton approached her and when she was getting questioned

774
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: about whether she was here for the right reasons, she

775
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: told Colton that if it wasn't for him, she wouldn't

776
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: be here. She sees the future with him, she sees

777
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: potential with him, good point, and so that's pretty frustrating

778
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: because well, how how could it possibly have changed so

779
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: much from that point where you see potential with Colton too,

780
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: Now you're not even willing to fight for it because

781
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: he Colton is here saying I love you. We don't

782
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: need to get engaged. I want to work on things

783
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: with you, and Cassie's just keeps repeating I don't want

784
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: to be with you. I think it was just I

785
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I think she took it to top three

786
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: because she wanted to be the Bachelor, and the Bachelor

787
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: is so often top three. I think Cassie probably just

788
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking your head. And I don't blame her. She's

789
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I I honestly don't blame her.

790
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: She's young, she's probably she's not really um she's experienced

791
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: probably when the relationships, uh, you know she I think

792
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: she said she had one boyfriend, so maybe she just

793
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: doesn't really know what love is. And I'm not bashing

794
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: her for that. But even watching that conversation between her

795
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: dad and her, it didn't seem as if it was

796
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: a father talking to a girl who hasn't really been

797
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: through a lot of relationship experience yet well, it's totally

798
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: not ready to get engaged. And there is this level

799
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: two when the Bachelor hat I looked back and when

800
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: the night that Jared got sent home, Uh, he was

801
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: four and I end up being three. But the night

802
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: you left, I remember, it hit my head an engagement

803
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: is pending. Am I ready? That's when it first hit me,

804
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: because until then it was I'm dating this girl. I'm

805
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: figuring out if I like this girl. I don't know

806
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: how I feel about Caitlyn yet, I'm into it, but

807
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: is she my wife? And and as soon as you

808
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: walked out the door, I remember watching Jared leave and going,

809
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is around the corner. Here we go,

810
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: here we go. Am I ready? And that's the first

811
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: time I asked myself, I'm already? Who knows what she

812
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: was feeling? And when she started asking herself this question.

813
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: So let's back to her. I have so many questions

814
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: for you. Now, if you got the top two, would

815
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: you have opposed her? I don't think there yet. No,

816
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I probably wasn't. Honestly, I don't think I was ready

817
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: to propose to Caitlin. But I think I would have

818
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: told her Hey, like I'm not there yet, but I

819
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: really care about you and I want to see if

820
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: this can work. But this, in this, in whatever the

821
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: formula here and the time from this, this didn't get

822
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: me to a place where I'm confident getting down on

823
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: one knee. But I'd love to see if this could

824
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: work afterwards, which is exactly what Caitlin or Colton was

825
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: telling Cassie. Hey, don't worry about the time frame, don't

826
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: worry about the engagement. I love you. And this is

827
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: the part that broke my heart. And I thought Colton

828
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: was so in the right here. He's begging all. What

829
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: he was really saying was Cassie, stay, there's no pressure

830
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: on us, Let's just see if we can figure it out.

831
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: Still said no, And that's where my heart really broke

832
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: as well, because you can understand what Cassie is going

833
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: through up until that point, because you're, like you said,

834
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: there's confusion, it's fast. Her dad just showed up. What's

835
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: going on? Am I going to be engaged to this guy?

836
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three? What's going to happen with my life?

837
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: But then he said, listen, don't put it Even Colton said,

838
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: don't put a time stamp. On it because Cassie kept

839
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: saying two weeks, two weeks, and Colton said, don't worry

840
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: about two weeks. This is the rest of Like, this

841
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: could potentially be the rest of our lives, so let's

842
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: just take our time and see if it can. That's

843
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: what you rehearsed, Jared. She rehearsed the two weeks things.

844
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: She had nothing else to say. But that's that's I

845
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: think where Ben and I are coming from. If Cassie

846
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: you got to just be honest with him at this

847
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: point and say I don't have those feelings for you.

848
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: Because she kept beating around the bush by saying I

849
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: don't think I can get there, and that brought the

850
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: question get there before two weeks or get there for

851
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. She ended up meaning for

852
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. It pained her to say,

853
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: but she ended up basically saying that. So because none

854
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: of us have have watched the spoilers, none of us

855
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: know what's happened next. Is this relationship done? This Colton,

856
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: come back and get her what happens? I mean, what

857
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: what's your theories here? Like? Is this relationship done? Because

858
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna get really freaking confused. If

859
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: at the end of this he ends up with anybody

860
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: but Cassie, or if Cassie comes back into the picture,

861
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Cassie's definitely well. If Cassie comes back from the picture,

862
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: it will be Coulton going after her. It will not

863
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: be Cassie coming back, of course, and there's no way

864
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: he can go back to Tasian Hannah. Gee, I'm gonna

865
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: say the most hypocritical thing ever. I find the Cassie

866
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: Colton relationship not extremely rootable right now because I think

867
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: that she kind of I just want Colton to be

868
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: with somebody. I don't want to say more deserving. I

869
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: don't like the more deserving. But like Cassie said, at

870
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: the end, you want somebody to You want Colton to

871
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: be with somebody who's as insanely in love with him

872
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: as he loves them. Yes, Colton is my care is

873
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: a sympathetic character for me here I am rooting for

874
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: his happiness that I don't think she likes him enough.

875
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Now this is where the hippo hippop Christie comes in.

876
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: Jared and I went through this and I begged him

877
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: so many times to give me all the chances in

878
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: the world. He just needed more time that Like he

879
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: always Jared always was like, I don't see it, I

880
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't do it. I can't do it.

881
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: How many times did we like, we're like almost there,

882
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: and then we and then we're like you cut it off,

883
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: and we're almost there and you cut it off. Of course,

884
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: the difference is that we developed such a strong friendship

885
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: over the course of three years that, you know, Colton

886
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: and Cassie just don't have that rapport or background. So

887
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: he's saying they could get there. We're we're they're pretty much.

888
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: It's it's different, but they they're more relatable to us

889
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: getting off our first season in Paradise than what we

890
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: are now. I wonder if this goes down in history,

891
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and you both are fans of the show, you've watched

892
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: the show in previous seasons, does this go down in history,

893
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna argue that it doesn't as one of

894
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: the most brutal breakups in Bachelor history, doesn't. What do

895
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: you mean? I think you have Jake and Pevelka. I

896
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: think you have Desert. I think you have um, I

897
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: think Sean and came, Sean and Caitlin. I think you

898
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: have Ari and Becca. I think I don't even think

899
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: it's the worst breakup in the mess. Those are nasty,

900
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: this is heartbreaking. I think they all have been heard.

901
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: I think Becca. I think the split screen Becca and

902
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Ari is more heartbreaking and more hard to watch than this.

903
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: I do think Colton's fence jump will go down in

904
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: history is one of the most epic exits on the show. Ever.

905
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think this breakup will end up being that.

906
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll talk about the breakup. I come

907
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: from a totally different place because I think that I

908
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: relate to Colton so much in this moment of the

909
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: unrequited love and then you're thinking that you're almost there

910
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: with somebody, and then they cut it off just when

911
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: you think that it's going to happen, and then you

912
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: like do that whole like you're so tense, and then

913
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: you start shaking and you're like, this doom is not

914
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: happening to me. Ben does bring up an extually interesting point, though,

915
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: because earlier in the day, Colton himself said I want

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: to be in love with Cassie. So how heartrenching could

917
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: this breakup have been when sixteen hours prior, Colton wasn't

918
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: even sure if he was in love with Cassie and

919
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: Jared found some editing flaws or what we're going to

920
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: say is an editing law. It was pretty frustrating. I

921
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's an editing flaw. I think it's where

922
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: his heart was at the It's his heart is not

923
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: in the same place as when he is at the end,

924
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: and I think it hit him. As she was leaving,

925
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Colton starts saying, oh, no, I do I do love

926
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: this woman. She's slipping through my fingers. Sixteen hours ago

927
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: during an interview, I was saying I want to fall

928
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: in love. I probably felt it internally, I wasn't ready

929
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: to admit it, and now I am because she's walking

930
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: out this door, and she the person I love, the

931
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: person I wanted to spend this evening with, is going

932
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: to exit the show. Maybe Calton got ahead of himself

933
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: because he was even saying that stuff before he knew

934
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: she was leaving. He was saying that he loves her,

935
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: she was the one, and then it was building up

936
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: to that point. So I'm curious. Maybe Colton panicked, so

937
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: that could be an excuse if he did want to

938
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: go back to Tatian Hannah Gee. Maybe he could go

939
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: back to him and say, listen, I was kind of

940
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: losing it a little bit. I had strong feelings for Cassie.

941
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: She was leaving I I was kind of lost in

942
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: the moment. Because if he goes back, say he goes

943
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: back to Hannah Gee and says that, do you think

944
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Hannah Ge would forgive him? He Colden had the power

945
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: in this moment to blow this whole format up. What

946
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: if he goes back to Tassia and Hannah Gee and goes,

947
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: this is what just happened, and he tells him the

948
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: honest truth about Cassie, and he goes, we need three

949
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: more weeks. How amazing would be azing? What if he

950
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: did he and he could have held but it would

951
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: never work because he'd still be thinking of Cassie every

952
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: moment he was with the other two girls. He'd be

953
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: comparing them the entire time. Here's a deal, Ashley, Jared

954
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and you once split apart, and Jared thought of you

955
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: ever since, and look at you now. Oh, I have

956
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: hope for them. Now you're going to take my last name. Hey, Jared,

957
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: you're the man. We love you dearly. Thanks guys. One

958
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: of us more than the other, but I love you

959
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: a lot more obvious. Like alright, five guys, All right, well,

960
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: Jared and I have actually been using a lot of

961
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: our crighton barrel items from our wedding registry lately. Jared

962
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: and I do we do get into football, as you

963
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: guys know, but I'm also into March madness whenever Syracuse

964
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: is in the game. And now that we have all

965
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: this cool platery play a word right, platerally from Crete Bryl. Yeah,

966
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: we have like entertaining items that we can have like

967
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: our friends like Ben whenever he's in the area or

968
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: Jaden Tanner come over and we can put the cheese

969
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: and crackers and the meats out and it looks really nice.

970
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: It does look nice because we used to use you know,

971
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: the old like plastic balls, and I'm not saying that

972
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: was embarrassing, but it's really nice to be have crane

973
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: barrel now because we have this marble what is it.

974
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: It's a it's like a marble. It's fantastic. It weighs

975
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: it must weigh like a hundred pounds. I'm kidding, that's exaggerate,

976
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: it's so heavy, but that's what I really like about it.

977
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: That is that heavy. But we love Crane Barrow so much.

978
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we're doing our registry here. Everything,

979
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: everything that we do, entertaining wise, just looks more professionally done,

980
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: looks more like adult ing. Like we're to use those

981
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: placid green things we were using. We've been very much

982
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: adulting ever since we've gotten some stuff from Crane Barrel.

983
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: It's very exciting. Well, if you guys are engaged out

984
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: there and you're looking for a good place to register,

985
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: we would highly suggest that you start your Crateon Barrel

986
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: registry now at Cranton Barrel www dot Cranton Barrel dot

987
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: com slash Wedding Dash registry. Again, that is www dot

988
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: crate and Barrel dot com slash Wedding Dash Registry. So

989
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: in the episode, we have Colton UH and Cassie's breakup

990
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna move into the final part of this

991
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: episode maybe the one of the best pieces UH in

992
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: bachelor history, and we have Analyze, one of our favorite

993
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: guests on to help us break it down. Analyze, welcome

994
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: back to the podcast, Thanks for having me. So this

995
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: is we're out in the episode. Okay, Cassie and Colton

996
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: have just broken up. And Colton goes up to his

997
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: room and shuts the door, and this is what happens.

998
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Colton opens up the door, he pushes a cameraman. He

999
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: walks down this stairs. Why do you have to push

1000
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: the cameraman? Why? I mean, it wasn't the man, it

1001
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: was the camera. Okay, just seems like dramatic, like why

1002
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: do you put your forearm into the camera's face. But anyways,

1003
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: then he walks out. You hear just a beautiful moment

1004
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: in Bachelor history. Somebody called Chris. Somebody called Chris, didn't

1005
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: somebody called Chris, And here comes Chris Harrison after Colton

1006
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: to save the day. Colton's Chris is fully dressed. He's

1007
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: looking sharp and dapper, and you see Colton hop the fence.

1008
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Analyze in this moment during the show, what are you thinking, Um,

1009
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: I cannot do box jumps? How it was like he

1010
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: was given a magical power through the feeling of frustration.

1011
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean I want I really would love to just

1012
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: have like to be with him in person while he

1013
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: does that, like over and over. I just want to

1014
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: watch his form and like see was it just adrenaline

1015
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: that got him to do that or I feel like

1016
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: by that weird expression I diseuse or was it or

1017
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like sheer athleticism. That's that's what

1018
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think anything else about, uh, like

1019
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: what just happened with Cassie or anything. It's just all

1020
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: about how that happened. We've actually got a clip, uh

1021
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: from that moment on the episode. Let's pause a second,

1022
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: take a listen, Colt, he just jumped the fence. There

1023
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: button that opens the gate, open the fence, guys, opened

1024
00:50:53,680 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: the pen bo. I mean, wow, that's insane. You're right,

1025
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys. If you watch Colton walk out and and

1026
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of like stand face to face with the gate,

1027
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: the gate is actually taller than he is, and Colton's

1028
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: my height, the six four, and he just leaps it.

1029
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't just leap, no struggle. My sister says, she's

1030
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: never been more attractive to him. Really, it is like

1031
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: that was such a sexy moment. I totally get that.

1032
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: Like it is just I'm like in awe of that moment.

1033
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: I think that's why everyone has been waiting for this

1034
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: moment and we're like, when is it happening. It's like

1035
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: the Olympics of Bachelor right now, you know it was effortless.

1036
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: What do you think happens the two of you because

1037
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: you've both done the show, You've you stayed within the

1038
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: confines of the show. You live in that world, and

1039
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: you exited in that world. What happens when he lands

1040
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: on the other side of the gate and there's nobody.

1041
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of feel like when the doors closed in

1042
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: a fantasy suite. Yeah, it's I'm alone. It's so weird.

1043
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: Did he rip his mic off? I think he must have.

1044
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: But my favorite line was Chris saying he jumped thet

1045
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was talking to my mom

1046
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: about it. I was like I saw on Instagram's like

1047
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: you know clip of it and Chris Harrison swearing because

1048
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: it was so Chris in my life, Like it's that's Chris,

1049
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: that's just him, but it's not where you see usually

1050
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: as the host, Chris Harrison. I know, it was pretty

1051
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: that that was also a pretty epic moment. So cool

1052
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: do you think? Okay, here's my take on this though.

1053
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: So here's you see Chris yelling Colton Colton. You hear

1054
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: dogs barking, and here's the thing you see all the producers.

1055
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: This is when you know the show is not prepared.

1056
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: Is because you see all of the top producers, the

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00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: producers for Colton and the cast there as well, kind

1058
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: of running after Colton here And was it the best

1059
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: moment Chris Harrison ever as the host? How okay, not

1060
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: only did he jump the f and fence, but Chris

1061
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Harrison as the host pull off the best hosting gig

1062
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: he's ever done at this moment. Well, I think we

1063
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: all got a little high off the moment because we

1064
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: see all the producers and we're like, oh my god,

1065
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: we love them. There they are and they have to

1066
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: get involved because of like safety reasons. Yeah, not because

1067
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: like it's like it's when you know, it's when you

1068
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: feel like, man, they are your friends, they are like

1069
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: your family. Like it's sort of but it's sort of

1070
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: like the moment where if you get in a fight

1071
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: and you run away from home when you're a kid

1072
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: and you're like mom comes outside and it's like right,

1073
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's kind of I feel

1074
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: like it's like the protective side of all of those people,

1075
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: like actually worried about him and concerned and all that.

1076
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's like those are parents. They're trying to

1077
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: help me. Yes, you're actually That's a great point and

1078
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: one that I never thought of. You know, Coolton at

1079
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: this point is probably far gone, he's ran away. But

1080
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: for us as the viewer and the fans and past participants,

1081
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: it is that moment where we go they really care,

1082
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: like everything shut down. Yes, there is one camera there,

1083
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: it has to be there. I'm glad it was there.

1084
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: It was capturing it. But they really care, and you

1085
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: don't see that. I mean you see them, you we

1086
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: see them on the show caring, but as viewers we

1087
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: don't get to see the producers in the behind the

1088
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: scenes a lot. But it just shows when Colton jumps

1089
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: the fence. Not only is Chris shocked, but you see

1090
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: all the EPs there, you see the assistance and they're

1091
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: going what do we do next? And how do we respond?

1092
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: So it leads to this question, what do you think

1093
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: happens next? I hope we get to see more search

1094
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: because everybody loves breaking the fourth wall and it was

1095
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: the fourth wall. It's like, yeah, literally breaking the fourth wall,

1096
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be great if they just drag

1097
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: it out for like two more minutes, trying to find him.

1098
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: I want on camera the scene in which they find him. Oh, totally,

1099
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: we have to get it. We're gonna get it. We're

1100
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna see the scene. I just got a quick and

1101
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: at least I want to hear your perspective. We just

1102
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: asked Jared and Tanner what what would have had to

1103
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: happen for them to leave the show like Colton did,

1104
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: Like what would have had to happen on your experience

1105
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: for you to just run away and just bolt? But

1106
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: I've gotta just the thought in my head. It's probably

1107
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: evil and it's not good, but I love it. What

1108
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: if Colton doesn't like leap the fence, Like, what if

1109
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: he just kind of gets stuck, Like he goes out there,

1110
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: They're all screaming cool and cool and don't don't go.

1111
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna jump the fence, and Colton like goes to jump,

1112
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: but he can't get over it when the doors opened. Yeah,

1113
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: so then he has to land and push the button.

1114
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: And it would have been like from some movie. I

1115
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: feel like we've all seen that, like in a movie

1116
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: or something, or they just like fall on the other side,

1117
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: doesn't make it. He just like doesn't make it, stops

1118
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: pushing the button Chris catches up with him so much

1119
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: better and at least anyways, that was just thought, what

1120
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: has to happen for you during the show to run

1121
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: away like Colton did? Oh? Man, I don't. I honestly,

1122
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's hard because I've only

1123
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: been on the sort of tested side or whatever you

1124
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: wanna call it um where if you want to leave,

1125
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: you leave, So being the lead to have to leave,

1126
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: like you can't really leave. I think that's why it

1127
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: was like he didn't. He wasn't able to just say, hey, guys,

1128
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm gonna just like exit now. He the

1129
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: only thing to probably going through his head at that

1130
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: point was like I just gotta get out of here,

1131
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: and like I can't tell anyone I'm gonna get out

1132
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: of here because they're not gonna let me go because

1133
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm the lead. So he's just like done, I'm done,

1134
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm out. Does that make sense? It makes complete sense.

1135
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: And it's just tough. I mean it is. It shows

1136
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: where Colton's head's at. It shows how hard this was

1137
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: for him. And now this episode was great, but I

1138
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: am so ready for the next episode too. Now we

1139
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: have to have women tell all no, I don't leave

1140
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: me in this suspense. Let's skip them and tell law

1141
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: and just get to Colton being found Analyst. You're always

1142
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: a pleasure to be on the podcast. Thank you so

1143
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: much for coming on. There's a ton of people from

1144
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: Bachelination in the room right now. I know they all

1145
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: look up to you. Go spread some wisdom and some love,

1146
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 1: and at least you're one of the best. I think

1147
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: what we just talked about with an at least properly

1148
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: summarizes this episode right there. For as much as it

1149
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: felt like happened, there wasn't a lot that actually happened.

1150
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Right There was a Tassia overnight, the Tassia failed overnight,

1151
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: and we knowing that, and us all of us know

1152
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: now knowing that Tasha is going home. We had the

1153
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Cassie day leading up to the conversation about the dad

1154
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: to Cassie trying to break up with Colton, not really

1155
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: doing it, successfully, drawn out a lot longer than it

1156
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: should have, and really just ending in the moment with

1157
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Colton jumping the fence. All of this made for one

1158
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: of the best episodes and one of the hardest episodes,

1159
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: and and and Bachelor history. So before I pass it

1160
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: to you, I want to just close my thoughts with this.

1161
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: It was one of the most entertaining. But as I

1162
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: think about where Colton's heads at right now, and as

1163
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: somebody that really likes Colton and and and I know

1164
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: that hasn't been easy, and I know that Colton wanted

1165
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: this to work and he wanted to be, you know,

1166
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: a good guy for these women. UM is entertaining. This

1167
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: episode was. I am very internested to see how it ends,

1168
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: because I don't know how it ends, and I'm worried

1169
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: now because if Colton really felt like he needed to

1170
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: run from the show, there's a deep, deep feeling of

1171
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: sadness in his heart. And so what it's the crazy

1172
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: part of the show. Typically what is the most sad

1173
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: is often the most entertaining, and that's SUGG and that's

1174
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: and that was this episode for me. I don't know

1175
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: what happens with Cassie. I don't know what happens with

1176
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: Hannah Gie or Tesha. But Ashley, I want to pass

1177
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: it off to you now to summarize all everything we

1178
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: talked about today with some great guests. UM, what were

1179
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: your final thoughts on one of the most epic episodes

1180
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: in Bachelor history. Yeah, that's kind of what I met

1181
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: earlier in the episode when I said it was like,

1182
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: not the most dramatic episode, it was truly like the

1183
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: last It was truly the most dramatic thirty minutes of

1184
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: an episode I've ever seen. Um. I do have this

1185
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: weird internal struggle where I'm just like, how can I

1186
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: be so living for this marama but then knowing the

1187
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: person that it's happening to and being so genuinely sad

1188
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: and having been in a situation I feel like similar

1189
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: in the past, and having so much sympathy and empathy,

1190
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: and You're just like, how am I doing this? At

1191
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: the same time, somebody's hearts breaking and I have no

1192
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: idea where it's going next week, and I have and

1193
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: I am very interested to see if I even find

1194
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: a potential relationship between he and Cassie to be something

1195
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: that I will root for. That's a good point. Will

1196
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: you root for the Cassie Colton relationship to be mended?

1197
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Are you rooting for Colton to be with somebody else?

1198
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: Are you just hoping that Colton runs into the Portugal

1199
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: jungle far away? Okay, honestly, I want him to be happy,

1200
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: and if getting another chance with Cassie is going to

1201
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: make him happy, then I want him to have another

1202
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: chance with him. I am just concerned about her doing

1203
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: it for the sake of appearances, because I feel like

1204
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: she might just get back together with Colton just so

1205
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: that like her images mended, and that's what I'm scared of.

1206
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: That's why I find it unroutable. But I do want

1207
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: him to have an large chance with her. So Hey,

1208
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: we're on the edge of our seats, just like all

1209
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