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Well, we're going to talk again 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: to an author by the name of Sam canonas he 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: was on our show a few weeks ago after writing 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: an article for La magazine. But he is this is 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: all coming out of a book that he wrote called 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: The Least of Us True Tales of America and Hope 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: in the Time of Fentanyl and meth. And he came 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: to our attention again this week when he did an 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: interview with the New York magazine they were Intelligencer, and 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: in that interview he talked about this potent meth that's 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: now out there impacting clearly the homeless problem, and of 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: course the newer scourge of fentyl. So let's get Sam 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: canonas on. Sam, How are you very well? Guys? How 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: about you? We're doing great. I gotta tell you I 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: was when I read your interview in New York Magazine 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: and there it was like an epiphany moment for me. 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: What you wrote suddenly explained what I'd been seeing with 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: my own eyes for the last five years. And it's 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: all these crazed zombies stumbling around and impervious to all 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: offers of help, which no one could understand and many 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: people in power would not accept. And then when you 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: wrote about how the meth and the fentanyl destroy their 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: instinct for self preservation, it was the moment. It's like, yes, 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's why you're seeing things you 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: never saw before. The instinct for self reservation is gone. 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Talk about how you came to that conclusion, Well, I 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: mean I was writing the book The Least of Us, 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: as y'all just mentioned, I began to see that we 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: were in the era of synthetic drugs now plant based 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: drugs kind of being passe, particularly because the Mexican trafficking 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: world understands that there is now really all kinds of 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: benefits and very little downside to producing making their own 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: drugs from chemicals now no plants involved. Because of that, 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: they're able to make drugs that are now more preble 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: plentiful than ever we've ever seen it. This is a 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: historic moment. We have seen traffic trafficking world in Mexico. 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: One source cover the entire country with not just one drug, 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: which would be unprecedented, but but two. So you find 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: fentanel and meth nationwide. You find it up in New England, 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: you find it in La you find it really really 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: everywhere you go. And that these drugs do quite effective masterfully. 51 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: I would say, um, what all drugs of abuse do 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: to some degree, just these guys, these drugs do it more, 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: more completely, and that is destroy our instincts for survival. 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I first saw this when I was a kid. I'm 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: from southern California, but we were living in the Bronx 56 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: and we found ourselves. My dad and I were walking along. 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: We found ourselves in the Bowery, back when the Bowery 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was not some gentrified hipster how then it was the 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: real Bowery with people living in trash and the slaves 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: at alcohol. Um. So I saw that then, and you know, 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: it's one of those things you can you continue to see. 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Cocaine does the same thing. But what really separates these 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: two drugs from the other is simply the supplies are 64 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: so so massive. There's there's these drugs centinel and that 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: are everywhere, and they are so devastatingly potent, and that 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: is really the difference. And so they have done that. 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: They have done as you said, they have. They have thwarted, squelched, muffled, 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: whatever the term as you'd like to use. Basic instincts 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: for survival. So people living in tents, pimped out feces, 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: even in areas where the temperatures are turning going to 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: be turning lethal, will will not, you know, except except help, 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: because they are imprisoned. They are slaves to to to 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: the dope. And it's a remarkable thing. You hear this 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: over and over again. You hear this from homeless outreach workers, 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you hear this from er docs. People come in with frostbite, 76 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: even losing digits, though they could easily have been in 77 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: a warming shelter, and they're losing digits. And colder part 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: of the country, colder parts of the country, people freezing 79 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: to death this kind of thing, but you're seeing it 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: daily in tent encountments. I think um Uh and many 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: many parts of the country. Math used to be fifty 82 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: percent math and fifty percent other stuff. Now it's ninety 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: nine pure correct, and that has to do with the 84 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: way that they make it now, the way they had 85 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: to change. About twelve fourteen years ago, Mexican government put 86 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a kabash on importations of the chemical they were using 87 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: to make methamphetaments as a federn, which is found in 88 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: pseudo fed it's in a decontest and all that kind 89 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. They really cut back dramatically on the mount 90 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: that they allowed to be imported. So the trafficking world 91 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: in Mexico, which had grown up around methampheedoment and saw 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: enormous profits from making their own drugs and not having 93 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: to plant anything, had to shift and they shifted to 94 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: a new method that isn't as easy to make, but 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: it does have one benefit, and that is you can 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: make the precursor chemical known as P two P penal 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: to propanone. You can make it with many different combinations 98 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: of chemicals, and these chemicals are widely available. They're industrial chemicals. 99 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: They're legal, they're widely available, they're toxic, and but that 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: means the government cannot crack down the way it did 101 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: on a Federan They cracked down on this way of 102 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: making P two P you shift to another or to another. 103 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: And the truth is that they have control over the 104 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: shipping ports, particularly on the western side of Mexico, so 105 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: they can get any combinations of these chemicals they want. 106 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: This allowed them to do two things. The first thing 107 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I understood from the beginning when I was writing my book, 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: and that was presus such enormous quantities that they've now, 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: as I said, covered the country in areas where you 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: never saw a Mexican methom phetomen before, in the Midwest, 111 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: nor in New England, etc. All over the country you're 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: finding this stuff now and that's just a testament to 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: how much they're able to make. But along the way, 114 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: as I was doing the least of those, I came 115 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: to understand that there was another story, and that, along 116 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: with the prevalence of the huge quantities, this metho was 117 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: also creating symptoms of schizophrenia, very intense paranoia, delusions, hallucinations. 118 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Very quickly. People lose absolute control of their lives. They 119 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: can't live with anybody up there else they're they're up 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: all night. Very quickly they're homeless, and then very quickly 121 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: they're in tenths, because tenths are the perfect place if 122 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: you are believe the entire world is out to get you, 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: you're so paranoid on this stuff. The tent is like 124 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: this nice little cartoon. There's less little pod um. And 125 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: as one guy told me, he said, Um, the last 126 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: place you want to be when you're on this meth 127 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: is in a homeless shelter because you're surrounded by people 128 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: you don't know. Everyone's a threat, everyone's your paranoid be 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: on words. And so what we've seen is the rise 130 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: in homelessness mental illness has really kind of accompanied this 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: meth as it is marched in these staggering quantities all 132 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: across the country, beginning really in about twenty eleven, twelve 133 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: thirteen in the Midwest. It arrived about twenty seventeen eighteen 134 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: up into New England by two thousand, nineteen and um. 135 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: And and so that was really the startling reporting that 136 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what I was seeing and put it truthfully, 137 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: you talk to people who are in all these different 138 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: parts of the country, and it's almost like they're telling 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: the same story of people very quickly descending into mental illness, paranoia, 140 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: inability to manage their lives intense or on the street 141 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: screaming at demons they don't and bicycles, hoarding bicycle parts 142 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. It was a remarkable 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: reporting experience because I kept hearing the same stories over 144 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and over and over all. Right, Sam, doesn't this make 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the case for a conservatorship then that we have to 146 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: do something because these people known. I think that's why 147 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: you were seeing cities begin to do that. You saw 148 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: the City of New York may or New York beginning 149 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: to do that. It defies I would say this. Let 150 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: me say this that that's a policy subscription that cities 151 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: and counties and states can argue about and people can debate. 152 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I would say this, It does not seem reasonable to 153 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,359 Speaker 1: assume that people on the street in the conditions addicted 154 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: to meth using fentanyl too. I mean, there's no one 155 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: drug people are using. It's a kind of a polypharmacy 156 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: out there that there is. There is no chance that 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: many of those people will ever find quote unquote the 158 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: readiness for treatment to say yes, I want to come 159 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: in and stay. A lot of people come in and 160 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: then the three days later they run back out. Um, 161 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: there's no chance that they will have the time to 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: develop the readiness for treatment while they're on the street. 163 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Before me. This meth now so prevalent, so cheap, drives 164 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: them mad or and ben fentanyl kills them all right. 165 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: I hang on, Sam, hang on, because I want to 166 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: talk about fentnyl too, because something else is remarkable in 167 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: this interview. Sam Cannotics is our guest. He's an author 168 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: of the book The Least of Us, Two Tales of 169 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: American Hope in the Time of fentanyl and meth. More 170 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: coming up John and Ken Show kf I Am six 171 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app Our guest is Sam Canonis. 172 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: The book The Least of Us about the effects of drugs, 173 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: particularly meth, which we talked about in the last segment. 174 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Especially it's an effect on the homeless population and they're 175 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: they're losing their instinct for self preservation. Samue wanted to 176 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: ask you about another part of the interview that you 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: did with New York Magazine and a paragraph that really 178 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: just stunned me. And moving now over to the newer 179 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: drug fentanyl. You said, there's this saying on the street 180 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: that I've heard it from several people that there is 181 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: no such thing as a long term street fentnyl user 182 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: like there was with heroin. There are people who use 183 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: heroin for thirty to forty years, but with fentanyl, everybody dies. 184 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: There may be people using it who function in societies 185 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: to some degree, but eventually everybody dies. But that's a 186 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: pretty tragic. It has to do though, with the fact 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: that in order to sell Sentinel you have to mix it, 188 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: and people on the street, even traffickers in Mexico who 189 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: have then gotten much better at mixing it, still are 190 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: far from perfect. Centinel is so potent that a few 191 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the equivalent of a few grain fentyl few grains of 192 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: like salt, say, would make you high, and a couple 193 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: more would kill you. And so you can't sell a 194 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: few grains on the street, so you have to mix 195 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: it with something else, and the problem is that the 196 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: mix is always bad. You never know what the mix is, 197 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: even if you have a high tolerance, you're never quite sure. 198 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: And the drug is so potent that that frequently that's 199 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: this is what happens. The guy who first told me 200 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: that there's no such thing as a long term fentinyl 201 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: user is himself dead from a fentinyl fentinel overdose. And 202 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: and that is really the case. Again, it's it's it's 203 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: And the fact is too that we're seeing now fentinel 204 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: because it's so cheap and so potent, it's being used 205 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: now to to um bump or boost up other other drugs, 206 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: cocaine and mattam, and to some degree we're seeing now 207 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: examples of it being dusted into onto marijuana as well. 208 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: And of course you're seeing Fentinel in all these counterfeit 209 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: pills that are coming in from Mexico that first looked 210 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: like oxycodon generic thirty milligram press blues but now and 211 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: percocets and fan X bars and now have many colors. 212 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: But all of this, I want to stress it seems 213 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: to me very clearly from my reporting, this is all 214 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: a function of the enormous supplies that they're able to 215 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: produce down in Mexico. And again Fentinel and math are 216 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: both now nationwide. I was talking with a guy in 217 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Maine who's now in recovery but he's he's a heroin 218 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: addict and Maine, and all of a sudden, Fentinel was 219 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: it and he couldn't find any heroine at all. We 220 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: are probably about a year or two away from seeing 221 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: like no heroine at all, real heroine at all on 222 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: the streets of America. We're almost We're almost there. It's 223 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: just been outcompeted by Fentinyl. It seems like the death 224 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: toll has a potential to explode. It's possible. I mean, 225 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not seeing well. Centinel is out there. 226 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't like to predict the future, particularly now when 227 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: it's horrifying news like this. But you know, there's the 228 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: amounts of Sentinel just simply increased. You're finding it more 229 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: parts of the country. Pretty much everywhere in the country, 230 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I would say, with some exceptions. I guess Baltimore an 231 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: amazing story. I think Baltimore has been a heroine town 232 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: since the sixties. But the tests that they're doing on 233 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: people who overd us now are you know, eighty five 234 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: percent ninety percent, maybe upwards of eighty five percent are 235 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: on Fentinel. And there's really kind of no more heroin 236 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Where where they made the great show The 237 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Wire several years ago. You're seeing this all over the 238 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: ingredients for sentinel in meth. Are they coming from China primarily? Yes, 239 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, right exactly. But but the truth is, 240 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you control the shipping ports, and there 241 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: are two of them on the western side of Mexico 242 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: that are the principal ones, although the the the air 243 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: port of Mexico City is a big player on this too, 244 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: but Salt of Arizona about two day drive. You reach 245 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: these two very very large ports through which all this 246 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: stuff comes, all kinds of retail consumer are items, etcetera, etcetera, 247 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: things that are used in manufacturing other larger things, car parts, 248 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: et cetera. Whatever. But you get there are a lot 249 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: of chemicals and and so all of that's coming well, 250 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of it is coming from China, although my 251 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: sources in the DA tell me that there's India is 252 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: now becoming a little bit of a bigger player. But 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: the truth is it could be other countries as well. 254 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't have to be just China or 255 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: or India. It just happens to be more convenient. Have 256 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: you heard of stuff is coming into Long beach in 257 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: San Pedro. My understanding is that there that there are 258 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: not per se but the pills. What I what I 259 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: have heard is that um and seeing in reports from 260 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: from the border, is that the pills now are coming 261 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: in in quantities that simply boggle. I mean, they boggled 262 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: my mind. I've just stunned sometimes to see the seizures. 263 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Remember in two thousand and seventeen in San Diego there 264 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: was the first seizure of Mexican trafficked pills that contain 265 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: only Fentomo counterfeit pills that contain only Fentolo and Sandia 266 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: twelve thousand pills, okay, and everyone was high five and 267 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: then each other. And then the next week it was eighteen. 268 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: And then in Phoenix a month later, two months later, 269 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: it was thirty. Now you're seeing one border crossing like 270 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: in Nogalis and Arizona of three, three or four hundred 271 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: thousand pills seased almost daily um and then of course 272 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: of a week those season like a million or something 273 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it's just it's a remarkable thing. 274 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: There's this enormous rush towards the manufacturing. Is this too 275 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: overwhelming for even the federal government to take on is 276 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: does anyone have a desire to do it? Well, I 277 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: believe it has kind of graduated to that level. I 278 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: don't think any president in recent years has done much 279 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: about this, and and but it has graduated beyond simply 280 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: like a drug issue the way we've commonly thought about it, 281 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: to something that amounts in my opinion, it feels as 282 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: much as as it feels like a drug issue, it 283 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: feels like a national poisoning and that would really rise 284 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: to another to another level. But again, you've seen both 285 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and the Biden in the administration essentially 286 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: do very little about this. In part I think because 287 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Mexico has done a lot to curtail the immigration coming 288 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: from from Mexico and has done a lot to keep 289 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: keep migrants from other parts of Latin America in Mexico 290 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. There's all that whole issue that's 291 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: playing out. But I think this is now graduated to 292 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: a level where where the State Department has to take 293 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: it up with the Mexican government and there has to 294 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: be you know, working on pushing the Mexicans to deal 295 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: with with the chemicals in their country. And I would 296 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: say two on from our end, on making sure that 297 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: we are not allowing guns smuggled to be smuggled south 298 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: into Mexico. Those are the guns, particularly assault weapons, that 299 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: are that are really arming those guys, allowing them the 300 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: impunity to make those these drugs and such staggering quantities. 301 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: All right, Sam, thank you very much for coming on 302 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: and talking to us again. We appreciate it. And the 303 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: name of Anytime Fellows and the name of the book 304 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: is the Least of Us. True Tales of America and 305 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: Hope in the Time of Fetnyl and Meth Johnny Ken 306 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Show kf I Am six forty Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app. 307 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I think all of these idiot politicians in LA and 308 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: California should read Sam's book and understand matth and Fentnyl 309 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: on the homeless. You know, I see Sam's great and 310 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get too political. When we talked 311 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: to him about conservative ship and what I was going 312 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: to ask him was, well, they try to tell us, 313 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: they try to downplay the drug problem with the homeless 314 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: and say, oh, it's just housing. It's just housing. Now, 315 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: see it's not. And that's why it's never going to 316 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: be fixed. With their attitudes and I tell you the 317 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: whole housing thing, that's just a way to enrich their 318 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: contractor friends. There's no sincerity there because even if housing 319 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: would solve the problem, there's no there's no possible way 320 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: to get the hundreds of people have lost their survival instinct. 321 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Housing is not going to make a different right. Even 322 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: if you could do it, it's would cost hundreds of 323 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. There's there's no way to build housing 324 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: for everybody. And and the thing is, and to me, 325 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: this is obvious. The drugs are causing brain damage, in 326 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: some cases, permanent brain damage. And it pisces me off 327 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: because Garsetti and Knewsom both said the same thing. I 328 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: just don't accept that they don't want help. We have 329 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: to keep trying. We keep trying. News said that, no, Bozo, 330 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how many times you go up to them. 331 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: If the brain cells in that particular part of their 332 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: brain are damaged and destroyed to the point where they 333 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: don't have an instinct to live anymore. You could go 334 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: up every day for the rest of the century. It's 335 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: not going to make a difference. You talk about following 336 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: the science. The brain is damaged and destroyed, like when 337 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: you have a stroke and you can't talk anymore. And 338 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: you can't talk anymore because the area of the brain 339 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: that controls your speech is gone. It's a dead spot. Now. 340 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: You can't walk anymore. Same thing you can't you know, 341 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: Alzheimer's patients can't remember things because that area where memory 342 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: used to be located is gone. There's a hole there, 343 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: and it's the same thing here with the meth and 344 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the fentanyl. It destroys your brain. There's nothing you could 345 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: say to them. They're not processing anymore. All right. Last night, 346 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: during this hour, we talked to Eric Saddal with the 347 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: association La County Association of Deputy Das about the latest 348 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: directive from George Gascon, which is, I mean, they're all unbelievable, 349 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: but this one, Wow, it took us to new heights. 350 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: I think, as Eric said, this is the woke of 351 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: the wokest. He handed out a directive trying to deal 352 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: with people who come before the La County DA with 353 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: a criminal case who face let's say, immigration issues. Basically, 354 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: the directive says to avoid additional immigration impact on all parties, 355 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: both victims and defendants. But the keyword there is defendants. 356 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: So we might be looking at a circumstance where they 357 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: don't want to add a special circumstance like the use 358 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: of a gun, because they could bring them to the 359 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: attention of the Feds and they might get deported. So 360 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: consider that when you're looking at the case, it maybe 361 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: don't charge that, which, to me, this is unequal treatment. 362 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: If you're here legally citizen or otherwise a legal immigrant, 363 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: you will get that preferential treatment with certain charges against you. 364 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: You'll get there, you'll get the book thrown at your potentially. 365 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: So it looks like he went on ABC seven and 366 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: talked about the policy, responding to the criticism, Let's listen, 367 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: this is not about a special treatment. To the contrary, 368 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: this is about equal protection under the law. District Attorney 369 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: George Gascone speaking with Eyewitness News defending a new special 370 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: directive sent Tuesday to all deputy district attorneys formally updating 371 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: how the office handles crimes involving immigrants. The nine page 372 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: memos stating the policy is an attempt to quote avoid 373 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: additional immigration impact on all parties, both victims and defendants. 374 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: We know with the especially within the immigrant community, they're 375 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: softing a reluctance to you know, come forward and report crimes, 376 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: both by victims of witnesses because people are often afraid 377 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: the reporting the crime may cost, you know, deportation, and 378 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: for the accused. Gascon says, it's all about uniformity across 379 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: the DA's office and similar treatment and consequences for everyone, 380 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: regardless of immigration status. What say lasses is, if you 381 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: have a situation where somebody that is here facing immigration 382 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: consequences is going to get not only the punishment that 383 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: will get through state law, the fine and probasion, whatever, 384 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: but in addition to that they may be deported and 385 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: you have a way to avoid the consequence within the 386 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: law the usual goal in that direction. Deputy District Attorney 387 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Hatami is one of the people who receive Tuesday's memo. 388 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: He takes issue with what he says is a lack 389 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: of specificity. The only thing I see that's new and 390 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: dangerous about it is it applies to all crimes, including 391 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: serious and violent felonies. It doesn't say anywhere and the 392 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: only applies to lower level crimes. Number two, it indicates 393 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: that you have to consider immigration at the time of filing. 394 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: That's actually unethical in California. The memo prohibits personnel from 395 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: sharing information with federal immigration authorities. I think we should 396 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: take any consideration first public safety, then you take into 397 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: consideration mitigation. Both men do agree that an important objective 398 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: in all of this is when possible, keeping families together. Now, 399 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: this is how gascon twisted this into his own version 400 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: of equal treatment unto the law. Well, you know, you 401 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: have two criminals, ones in the country legally, ones not. 402 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: They're facing the exact same charges for the crime. Why 403 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: would I want to add on something that could possibly 404 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: subject them to deportation to the guy that's not here legally. Wow? No, no, 405 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: he you know what, he is self full of crap. Well, 406 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: there is no such thing as illegal immigration. Well, now 407 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: everybody that's here has to be treated the same. No, 408 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: this is all wrong. Whether it's an legal alien or 409 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: American citizen, the gascone is charging them with state crimes. 410 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: In addition, you report the illegal alien to the Feds. 411 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: The Feds handle the federal issue. But he wants to 412 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: prevent that, right, Well, but that's the thing, and it 413 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: is it is considers that additional punishment was unfair. But 414 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: there's additional crimes being committed. Well, yeah, we found out 415 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: they're in the country legal. Yes, So that's why the 416 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: the illegal alien would get additional charges against them, an 417 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: additional legal problem because he not only committed the crimes here, 418 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: he broke the law by coming here, and the FEDS 419 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: deal with that. And the Feds, even at this late date, 420 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: the FEDS do prioritize deportation for violent criminals, which they 421 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: shoot of the sanctuary bills. Does those say well, once 422 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: they've served their time, we're not gonna let the Feds 423 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: know who they as they can deport. This is the 424 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: complete destroy action of the justice system. And he's always 425 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: got some complex reason for it that makes you scratch 426 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: your head. Go no, he wants to destroy the system. 427 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: This is now the next wall being blasted away by 428 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: the bulldozer, by the wrecking ball. It's like, okay, now 429 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: is this going to apply to drug cartel criminals? Was 430 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: bringing up? This is going to apply to serious and 431 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: violent felonies, to Mexican mafia criminals, the organized crime, the 432 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: people who are responsible for a lot of the murders 433 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: in California. Now they're not going to be deported. I mean, 434 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: this is insane, insane because when he doesn't apply the 435 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: gun enhancements. For example, not only does it keep them 436 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: from getting deported, it keeps them from going to prison 437 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: for any length of time. That's right. It short sentence, 438 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: so you see what it is. What it's it's it's 439 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: all a disguise. It's a disguise for the minimum amount 440 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: of jail time, prison time for the worst criminals who 441 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: also happen to be here illegally. All right, we got 442 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: more coming up, John and ken KF I am six 443 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere the iHeart Radio app. He's so dangerous. 444 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: The final call from the boys line for tomorrow is 445 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: right now leave a message using the iHeart Radio app. 446 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: The microphone icon are called the tull Free number one 447 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven 448 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: six six four seven eight eight six. Tomorrow also will 449 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: bring us the return of Hack and a Dumpster, a 450 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: special special edition. Not Satan's like a fire, but it 451 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: is a special edition of Hacking a Dumpster and you'll 452 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: find out tomorrow during the five o'clock hour. Well, I'm 453 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: saving the best for last, John, Come there come the masks. 454 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: They're panicking with headlines. We have entered the high COVID 455 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: nineteen community level in La County. Weep, weep, weep. The statistics. 456 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, when I look at this too, the county 457 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: is now reporting fourteen point eight new coronavirus positive hospitalizations 458 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: a week for every one hundred thousand people, a rate 459 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: of ten or Morris considered particularly worrisome. This is all arbitrary. Yeah, 460 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: who's who's who's worrisome about it? The uh the guy 461 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: writing the story. Listen to this. According to the US 462 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: Enters for Disease Control and Prevention, six point nine percent 463 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: of La County staffed hospital beds are being used by 464 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: coronavirus infected patients six point nine percent. And we're panicking. 465 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: And what percentage of that are people who came in 466 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: for something else and coincidence they tested positive and they 467 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: may have no or mild symptoms. That's up two percent 468 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: from the start of November. Oh my god, up two percent. Yeah, 469 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: so now trying hard to whip it up again. The 470 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: mass called Barbara Ferrara thinks if discontinues, then come January fifth, 471 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: they will announce indoor masking is back. You know, I 472 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: don't think anybody's buying because last night my left funder 473 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: to go to this art opening art opening. You got 474 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: your vaccines. Oh yeah, but I only got him, you know, 475 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: the day before, so they wouldn't have kicked in yet. No. 476 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: I meant, do you think this is hype? Why are 477 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: you getting the vaccine? Oh? Just because it's it's betther 478 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: layer of protection. I'm not a mask. Vaccines are one thing. 479 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Masks are absurd. So I go in there and it's 480 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: a tight space, lots of people, probably at least a 481 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: couple of hundred people tough walking around. It's that tight. 482 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I saw more than two masks. And 483 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: this is this is a young art crowd. Yeah crowd. Yeah, 484 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: you think that a year ago would have been ninety 485 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: eight percent masks, This two percent and nobody's buying. Do 486 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: you want to hear new research? It's the BQ dot 487 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: one dot one strain a descent to be a five 488 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: and they're saying that the Bible in shots don't seem 489 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: to do well against it him There you go. It 490 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: ducks vaccines, say so they pushed So this week beginning 491 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: of the week, I heard number of stories. They're pushing 492 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the vaccines because the percentage is way too low among 493 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the population. You got to get the vaccine, it'll help, 494 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: And then a few days later, oh, chance doesn't really 495 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: work on the latest. Done with all of them. I'm 496 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: done with him. They don't know what the hell they're doing. 497 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: By the way, Tim, we just played your promo. Thanks 498 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: for the visual of you naked in a Jacusan. You 499 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: got it, bub Yeah, that's great. Room for room for 500 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: two more fellows. Sounds like Crozier's interested. Yeah, yeah, got 501 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: him a little excited. I don't know what goes on here. Well, 502 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Crozier is uh, you know, he's a player. Is they 503 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: know what the kids say nowadays? I don't talk to kids. 504 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I don't know. But no, Crozier 505 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: is a player, is he? Yeah? Yeah, you know Crozier 506 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: used to He used to wear a white man shirt 507 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: and tight white shorts to work. You know, I've never 508 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: done that, have you? I have not? No, I know, 509 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I have a white I get safe 510 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: to save many of us have not done. There was 511 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: also no demand for him white mesh shirts, a white 512 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: mess shirt almost like you know, I'm like a tenant, 513 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: like made out of like a tennis net see and 514 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: white shorts. I think he had a different life but man, 515 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: he's going for it. I gotta give him that. You know, 516 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of guys don't go for it life. Uh, 517 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Dean Sharp is coming on, whether it's a house whisper. 518 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: That guy's always cool, right despite you guys think Also, 519 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Gustavo will come on. He's We met him at the 520 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: at the White House, and he came to this to 521 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: this country only about five or six years ago. And 522 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: he was living in a shelter at a very tough life. 523 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: And in the shelter when he was fifteen years old, 524 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: his mother went into labor. They called the paramedics. Paramedics 525 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: didn't show up or you know, they're running late. And 526 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: so at fifteen in a homeless shelter, he was delivering 527 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: his baby brother from his mother. Oh my gosh, wow. 528 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: And I said to him, I said, hey, it was 529 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: mostly just hand stuff. And you're looking away, isn't that Ryan? 530 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh No? Also when it was done, you had to 531 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: go out inside and have a cigarette. Right. I just 532 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: you're taking a wonderful dramatic story. You probably should milk 533 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: get it for comedy. Look away, look away. Well that's 534 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: that's got to be an image that it's good seared 535 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: into a lot of us couldn't handle. Are you there 536 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: for your wife's Yes? I was, Yes, I was. I 537 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: was stationed up near her noggin, though not the south 538 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: of the boulevard. I love them all, right, dog top 539 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: that one more second. I'm sorry. I will say this 540 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: and she will hate from me saying this on the air. 541 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: Her father was there with a camera. Is that right enough? Set? Oh? No? Destroy? Okay, 542 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: dank dog Mark Runner has the news. Yeah, let's KOs 543 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: County like i'where in the iHeartRadio. It's never been more 544 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: important to diversify your financial portfolio. Well that's right. 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