WEBVTT - #462 Packers Unscripted: Win No. 7 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:20.599 Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.320 I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.000 West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.600 at lambeau Field. Not long after the plane landed from 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.279 Kansas City West Sunday Night Football Arrowhead Stadium. The Packers 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.440 get win number seven. They are seven and one. Thirty 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.840 one too is the final score. I don't know where 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.040 you want to start with this one, because there is 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.560 plenty to dissect and talk about here, but I think 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.680 we have to start with number thirty three. Aaron Jones. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.120 What a performance I think you have to write. And 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.000 here's what was amazing about this performance from Aaron Jones. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.360 We talked all off season, how is Matt the Floor 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.600 going to use all these running backs? How is he gonna, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.000 you know, get them involved in the passing game out 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.080 of the backfield. Aaron Jones was practically a receiver in 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.800 this game with how much they flanked him out wide. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.280 And and that was a decoy that the Packers have 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.440 used in the past. But very rarely would the ball 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.679 be that you know, he would that receiver be that 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.360 running back be the first or second read for Aaron Rodgers. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.560 These plays were designed for Aaron Jones, and he made 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.560 Kansas City pay. I really thought it was funny. You know, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.960 early on, he has that sixty yard touchdown that ends 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.600 up getting brought back ten yards because they ruled that 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.680 he stepped out of bounds even though you know, there 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.600 really wasn't anybody by him. He kind of outsprinted everybody, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.680 but his toe just touches the white chalk. He went 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.560 back to the sign line and he told Aaron Rodgers, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.360 I owe you another one and then lo and behold 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:52.120 here we are. That a fiery explosive third quarter from 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.160 Green Bay to pull themselves back into this and then 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:55.880 they come out in the fourth quarter and they carry 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.960 that momentum. He gets the sixty seven yard touchdown seven catches, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.440 is a career high hundred fifty nine yards of receiving 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.640 two and twenty six yards of total offense. Both he 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.120 and Jamal Williams were responsible for all four Packers touchdowns. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.079 Can't say enough about the performance of those two running backs. Yeah, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.280 and Aaron Jones. Now with eleven total touchdowns on the 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.480 season at the midway point um A note to watch here. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.480 The Packers single season record is twenty touchdowns him on 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.520 Green in two thousand and three. So Aaron Jones on 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.200 pace when you look at the math, halfway to potentially 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.440 getting that record. Yes, eight rushing touchdowns now three receiving 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.200 touchdowns and as you said, could have had another one 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.760 last night if not for the foot just barely hitting 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.520 the sideline there that the replay review caught. But I 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:47.840 tell you West, the explosiveness of this young man is 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.119 it's really amazing. And yes, he got some great blocks 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.520 and everything else, but um, but boy, he's he's just 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.120 an electric player on the field. We talked all week 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.919 last week about tie Re kill and Nicole Hardman and 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.160 these guys that the Kansa City Chiefs have, and they 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.440 certainly lived up to their building as well, even with 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.760 backup quarterback Matt Moore put on a very solid performance 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.440 and the Chiefs gave the Packers absolutely everything they could 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.239 handle in this game. But Aaron Jones takes a backseat 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.400 to no one in the NFL right now. He is 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.640 He is dynamic. He is on the field every down 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.280 he is. He is a three down back, whether you 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.360 need him to protect Aaron Rodgers, whether you need him 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.840 to run the ball from the two yard line with 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.920 five minutes to go, whether you want to flank him 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.320 out and get him in a matchup to against a 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.640 linebacker to see if you can get an explosive play. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.440 He's just doing everything for this offense right now at 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.720 a time over the last month when the Packers have 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.440 absolutely needed it with the Vante Adams missing his fourth 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.880 straight game and lo and behold, the Packers are four 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.680 and oh without their pro Bowl wide receiver. One of 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.600 the things I thought was really interesting that you know, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.840 a little small factor, and I dug up the fact 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.600 that Jones and Williams and these four games together. In 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.800 mind you Jamal Williams didn't play in one of those. Uh, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.720 they've combined for seven fifty four total yards eleven touchdowns 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.120 the first four to start the season four twelve yards 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.200 and five touchdowns. I mean, both of those guys have 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 you know, taken their game to another level. But here's 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.120 the thing, Mike, we talked about it from the very 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.000 beginning when they didn't have Davontae Adams, and they're working 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.719 through some of these things offensively that they need to 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.480 get through. Who are your next biggest playmakers? You can 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.640 make an argument that Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams are 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.400 those next guys and when the moment is called for 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.200 both of them have you know, kind of risen to 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.000 the occasion. But at the end of the day, the 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.360 thing we're starting to learn, you know, halfway through this 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.600 regular season, now, Aaron Jones isn't just a really good 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.720 running back. He's becoming one of the more explosive players 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.920 in this entire league when you get him the ball 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.479 in open space. And I thought you brought up a 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.360 good point a moment ago. When you talk about Hardman, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.680 when you talk about Hill, when you talk about Watkins, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.719 then how dangerous they can be in the open field. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.560 Aaron Jones was the counter to that. And you saw 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.640 when you know, if you get him in space and 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.839 there's no tackles around him, his explosiveness and his top 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.640 end speed. I don't know, to be honest with you, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.640 And I think it was Vick Fangio that said this 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.480 a month ago. How this guy ever went in the 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.719 fifth round is just beyond me. He's just he's such 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.160 a dynamic football player, and you know, for the first 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.960 time in his career, he's winning. He didn't win a 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.880 lot at you tap, you win a lot his first 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.240 two years in Green Bay. But here the Packers are 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.080 at seven and one and they got a player like this, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.080 who mind you gutted through his shoulder injury that momentarily 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.640 took him out of the game. He came back, didn't 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.640 look any worse for wear. And I'm sure you're gonna 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.720 talk about this too, but when the Packers needed to 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.440 run the ball too in the four minute offense late 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.200 to kill the last five or four off the clock, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.520 he did that as well. He got them two first downs, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.480 twenty nine rushing yards, and allowed the Packers to kneel 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.200 at the ball after an eight yard outroute on third 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.640 and five. The confidence that Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.240 showed him that young man, it's just incredible what he's 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.520 put together here the last month. Yeah. Well, and then 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.720 you look at the rest of what was going on 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.560 on offense. Obviously two six yards from scrimmage from Aaron 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.320 Jones and a couple of touchdowns you mentioned Jamal Williams. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.000 Aaron Rodgers, by the way, puts up a hundred and 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.120 twenty plus passer rating three another three hundred yard game, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.680 three touchdowns, no interceptions. Yes, he got sacked a handful 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.320 of times. Of the Chiefs definitely gave the Packers some 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:23.400 issues with their pressure packages. But again, Aaron Rodgers executes 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.640 a game plan, doesn't really ever put the ball in 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.320 danger of being turned over. Um, all of these things 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.800 that you come to just expect from Aaron Rodgers, and 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.320 obviously you don't want to take it for granted. But um, 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.080 but boy, that touchdown pass to Jamal Williams. I don't know. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.039 I don't know what you thought. We're sitting next to 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.560 each other in the press box. I don't know what 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.400 you thought at the moment. I didn't even see Jamal 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.000 Williams in the back of the end zone. I'm my 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.280 eyes are on Rogers and on Jimmy Graham, And as 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.560 soon as the ball left Rogers hand, I'm like, oh, 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.640 he just he threw it over his head on purpose. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.240 It's going out of bounds. They're going to kick the 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.760 field goal and and take a three point lead, and 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.719 Jamal Williams is streaking across the back of the end 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.279 zone and makes a diving catch by the by the 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.440 back pylon. And sure enough, you ask Aaron Rodgers after 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.160 the game, Yeah, he saw him. He did, he didn't 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.360 see him like I'm just I'm I'm blown away by 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.600 the stuff we are seeing on a weekly basis from 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.920 this Packers offense and that touchdown pass I don't know 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.840 how to rank him anymore, West, but that touchdown passes 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.200 is one that's somewhere on a list for me. I 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.320 still for this as far as this season is concerned. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.040 That touchdown he had where he threw it into Aaron 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.080 Jones for like triple coverage in the end zone a 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.400 couple of weeks ago, that's still the That's the top 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.080 one in terms of just the overall skill level and 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.280 the narrow window. He had some room to work with 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.960 because he was near the sideline. But let's be honest, Mike, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.120 the Packers needed to make plays in that second half, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.200 and Aaron Rodgers did just that, uh to to find 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.920 a way. On that particular play, you gotta remember they're 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.680 sitting there. I believe it was third and one at 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.360 that point. I think you and I were both anticipating, Okay, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.880 is this where you run it and then see if 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.600 you get the first down. If you don't go for it, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.640 well then they end up coming out an empty set, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.120 which if you go by the you know, the statistics 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.520 on the night. I don't know how it all ended 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.200 up shuffling out, but that ended up being one of 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.640 their better packages when they were able to take the 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.880 inside linebacker out of the equation and make sure that 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.440 they had to make a decision with how they were 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.760 defending the running back well, and that one was with 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.400 all of your run offensive personnel on the field. So 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.240 from a personnel standpoint, you're thinking the Packers are going 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.280 to run the ball, but then they spread it out 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.240 and go empty, and then it's like, okay, well what's 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.760 coming now. I mean it was I was. I was 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.240 stunned by what was going on, and then even more 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.559 stunned by the touchdown catch that ended the end of 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.200 the drive. It was a big shift and it was 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.520 funny listening to, you know, Jimmy Graham tell it, and 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.360 you know he's thinking he's boxing out the safety or 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.640 the cornerback there. He thought the ball was going to 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.560 come for him. And the way Rogers described it in 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.400 his postgame news conference was that he wanted to put 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.040 in an area that if Jimmy could go up and 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.720 get it, it's there. But if it isn't he saw 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 that body whoever it was, and it turned out being 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.800 Jamal Williams in the back that that white jersey that 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.119 could potentially help him out as well. And for Williams 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.440 to show the urgency too. And as you pointed out 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.839 when we were discussing this earlier, Kansas City did everything right. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.600 The cornerback switched. Jones is covered, Graham is relatively covered. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.440 As much as you can cover a six ft seven guy, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.240 it's backing you out. But for Jones to stay with 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.040 the play, curl to the back of the end zone, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.160 try to find a way to you know, find some 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.760 open space and then make that catch along the sideline 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.760 was absolutely critical for the Packers to capitalize there and 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.400 keep the momentum in their favor. And Jones, I mean Williams, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:37.960 I mean, people aren't going to talk a lot about 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.280 him because there's all the stats that Aaron Jones put 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.560 up in this game. But Jamal Williams, for what he 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.440 was asked to do in this contest, including the one 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.840 yard touchdown run early on behind Danny Vitally, he was 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.960 also a very critical part of what the Packers were 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.880 able to do in Kansas City. Yeah, well, you use 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.840 the word momentum, and I want to get back to 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.800 that thought in a second, but I don't want to 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.400 forget about this either. Select Cousin Subs locations are now 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.600 offering to livery whether you're ordering catering or your favorite sub, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.120 they're delivering right to you when you order online at 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.120 Cousins Subs dot com. Cousin Subs we believe in better 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.640 all right, Wes, you said it, momentum. It was a 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.960 game of momentum shifts, certainly really, from the beginning of 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.200 the game all the way to the end. The Packers 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.640 jump out fourteen nothing in the first quarter. The Chiefs 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.160 come back with an explosive second quarter. They score seventeen points. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.560 The Packers fortunately hold them to a field goal on 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:33.040 that final drive before halftime, so the Packers are down 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.040 fourteen and a half. Green Bay puts together a long 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.520 third quarter drive that takes more than eight and a 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.800 half minutes off the clock, but Packers have to settle 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.080 for a field goal. Aaron Rodgers talked about his helmet 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:49.559 communicator going out, which partly led to the delay of 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.720 game and the goal to go, and then also the 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.240 time out they had to use before the third down play, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.360 but anyway, so the Packers get the field goal that 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.280 ties it. And then first play of the Chiefs next drive, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:07.960 Tyler Lancaster, the undrafted second year defensive lineman from Northwestern, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.760 makes the biggest play by far of his young career, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.800 stripped Shady McCoy and gets the fumal recovery at the 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.560 twenty seven yard line, sets up the Packers for the 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.560 go ahead touched on, which turned out to be then 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.320 that fabulous t d catch by Williams. Yeah, and it 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.160 was really interesting talking to some of the guys in 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.760 the locker room. Lancaster was certainly very humble and excited 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.199 that he was able to make the play. As he said, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.520 you know the way he was describing it, you know, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.199 when he's basically filling the A gap and when McCoy 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.160 makes a decision to cut into the B gap, Lancaster 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.480 has one play at that point, and it's basically to 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:42.920 stick his arm out there and see if he could 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.040 find football, which he did, much to his surprise. The 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.679 ball end up bouncing directly, you know, into his gut basically, Yeah, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.280 while he's laying on the ground there there it is, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.480 so he gets a fumble recover. He said it kind 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.439 reminded him of play at Northwestern, very similar, where he's 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.520 doing his job inside, he punches the ball, it ends 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.320 up getting out back for a touchdown. But again one 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.640 of those just calm, kind of happy accidents, right. That 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.200 was the uh, you know, the old phrase, and and 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.320 for him to come up in that moment. I was 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.600 asking Preston Smith about this afterwards. You know, you can 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.679 make all you want about Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, Jyr Alexander, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.320 Adrian Amos, I mean, all the name type players on 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.480 this defense. If you want to be a team that 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.960 can win in the postseason, you need to have the 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.000 Tyler Lancasters of the world making a play here and there. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.040 At a critical point in the game, Sadarius Stephen mentioned 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.800 know when he went back to Silon Packers, they got 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.319 punched in the mouth in the second quarter. It did 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.199 not go the way they wanted to. They came out great. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.720 I think the first seven plays or six plays, kan 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.320 City only mounted seven yards of total offense. But they 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.560 started to find those weapons underneath in the second quarter, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.839 and those weapons made guys miss. They were able to 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.720 put up a ton of yards and Zadarius said, you know, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.240 this was kind of the thought in the locker room 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.080 is that this is our time. We have to prove 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.480 that we can. You don't not break in this moment, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.640 we can come back together. I thought a really under 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.400 rate play was the fact that Jire Alexander finally stuffing 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.760 Watkins for a two yard loss on what that little 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.719 receiver screen they kept burning the Packers for in the 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.160 second quarter. Yeah, one of those funky X and no 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.840 scheme things, and and Alexander was very quick to react 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.880 to it. And I thought that I agree with you. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.280 I thought that was another play that showed the Packers defense, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.319 which had its issues and there were miss tackles and 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.760 and you know, you knew these playmakers for the Chiefs, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.640 we're gonna be able to do some things. But I 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.360 thought that was a play where the Packers defense kind 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.880 of started to stand tall and get a little bit 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.480 of that mojo back again. And I mean, for Alexander 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.559 just shot out of a canon to make that play, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.400 and then that's what sets up to Darius Smith then 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.040 getting the third down sack. And as cool as that 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.800 was for Green Bay to get a stop out of 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.839 the break right after Kansas City had scored at the 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.320 end of the first half, it was even more important 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.160 to finally get a takeaway. There was one turnover in 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.439 this game. It came by Tyler Lancaster when he went 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.160 back to the sideline. The story I was trying to 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.520 mention is that Darius Smith went up to him and 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.680 basically thanked him and said, you know, kind of saved 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.280 our bacon on that play to be able to get 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.400 a turnover, get the offensive all the back at the 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.760 twenty seven yard line, they go in and they score 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.280 from there, and then that really was the momentum shift 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.200 they needed. Truman Williams said it to in that locker 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.040 room afterwards. That was the play of the game. And 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.760 to have a guy like Tyler Lancaster who in this 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.680 particular game plan, it wasn't a Tyler Lancaster game. Packers 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.040 use a lot of hybrid defenses, including their base package, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.560 to account for the speed of Kansas City, but when 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.240 Lancaster had to be in there and make a play, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.840 he certainly did that. Yeah, Well, if there's another play 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.239 on the defensive side that stands out aside from Zadarius 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.000 Smith's two sacks, Packers didn't really get. I don't think 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.560 the pressure on Matt Moore consistently that they were hoping for, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.040 especially with the Chiefs being down a couple of starting 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.240 offensive lineman's Darius Smith did get the two sacks. But 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.080 the other defensive play that stands out is in the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.720 fourth quarter. As we talk about the momentum shift, So 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.480 the Packers go up by a touchdown. After the turnover, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.920 the Chiefs come back and score a touchdown. Packers thought 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.600 they had him stopped, but Tremont Williams gets the flag 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.560 for the hands to the face on the down, so 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.440 they get an extra first and goal and then they score, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.200 so it's tied up. Then Aaron Jones gets the sixty 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.480 seven yard touchdown off the screen pass, so the Packers 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.040 are back ahead and the Chiefs are coming back third down. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.400 Who does Matt Moore want to go to a course? 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.120 It's Travis Kelsey, his reliable and very dynamic tight end 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.240 and your guy, Wes Jandon Sullivan. I give you credit, man, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.520 and I'll say it again. You said it last time, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.640 I'll say it again. You had your eye on this 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.160 guy from very early in training camp, and I'll admit 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.800 I had my doubts because what I saw in camping 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.160 in the preseason was a guy who made who was 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.840 flagged for just as many penalties as for the plays 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.160 he was making. So that left me wondering, Okay, this 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.440 guy's on the bubble. I'm not really sure. You were 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.400 pretty confident that he was going to make the team. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.400 And what we've seen when he's been thrown into these 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.680 situations in the regular season is he's not committing the 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.120 penalties we were seeing in the preseason. He's making the plays. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.120 And he breaks up that third down pass over the 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.680 middle to Travis Kelsey and that turns out to be 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.600 the Kansas City Chief's last offensive play of the game. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.320 Play of this game, really really solid play by Sullivan 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.760 at a big moment. Yeah, and Sullivan was all smiles 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.840 in the locker room afterwards. I mean, you got understand 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.840 where this young man came from. He's not an undrafted rookie. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.760 I mean, he is an undrafted free agent. But he 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.640 was with Philadelphia last year. He started a game for 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.160 the Eagles and kind of got tossed aside in May 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.400 and he ends up on the street free agent scrap heap. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.680 The Packers pick him up and had a really deep 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.000 position he ends up mounting a run. What's impressive, though, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.160 the most about Sullivan is that he's done this at 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.720 two different positions. He's playing both cornerback and safety and 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.200 almost indiscriminately. I mean, they use them either spot and 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.000 doesn't really seem like Mike Petton has any trepidation about 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.000 deploying him at either spot. In this particular game, a 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.360 lot of safety because Adrian Amos was moving up into 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.920 the box of that nitro nickel package, allowing them to, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.920 you know, have some flexibility out front. Sullivan has a 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.840 great skill set. He was a big ball hawk at 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.480 Georgia State, which is a still a young program. Didn't 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.160 get a lot of national recognition there, but he stayed home, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.200 came from an area where there's a lot of talent, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.480 big hot bed in that Atlanta metro section of Georgia, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.399 and sort of got overlooked. But if you look at 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.480 his speed, if you look at his coverage ability, I 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.320 think there's a lot of talent in this young man. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.639 And it was also funny too, Mike. He ends up 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.640 being the kickoff returner for the Packers in this game. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.959 He had eight kickoff returns at Georgia State. He hasn't 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.280 returned to kickoff since two thousand fifteen, his sophomore year. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.280 And suddenly, you know, Sean Meninga goes up to him 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.320 this week and says, I'd like to use you in 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.159 this way, And he said, all right, I'm up for 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.080 the opportunity. Why not. Right, This is as you said 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.160 with Lancaster. I mean, these are the type of performances 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.080 you can have. Your Darius smith Is, your Smith's and 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.840 your Preston Smith's. They're critical. That's how you went to 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.040 Super Bowl. No question, you need those guys out there. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.800 But it's the one eleven thing. I know some people 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.160 think that can be a cliche, but it's absolutely true. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.080 You need the Lancasters and the Sullivan's to pick you up, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.080 and in this particular game they did, and they made 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.879 arguably one A, one B for the biggest plays in 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.840 this contest to put away a very dangerous Kansas City team. Yeah, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.399 and that breakup, that pass breakup by Sullivan on third 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.400 down leads to the Chiefs punting. They pinned the Packers 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.399 back on the two yard line from the two, five 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:28.480 oh four on the clock. I thought the first play 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.600 running Aaron Jones right up the gut and he powers 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.879 his way for six yards gets the Packers out to 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.240 the eight yard line. I thought that really set the 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.920 tone because that was that was a moment. The Packers 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.240 did not run the ball as well as I thought 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.119 they were going to in this game. Based on Kansas 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.600 City's defensive run statistics coming in, the Packers had not 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.480 reached a hundred yards rushing as a team in this game. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.439 You know, heading into that final drive, they end up 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.639 running seven consecutive running place, six of those from Aaron Jones, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.879 one from Jamal Williams, and uh boy, that was some 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.160 I don't know what the right phrases. Big boy football 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.119