1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. Not long after the plane landed from 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: Kansas City West Sunday Night Football Arrowhead Stadium. The Packers 6 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: get win number seven. They are seven and one. Thirty 7 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: one too is the final score. I don't know where 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: you want to start with this one, because there is 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: plenty to dissect and talk about here, but I think 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: we have to start with number thirty three. Aaron Jones. 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: What a performance I think you have to write. And 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: here's what was amazing about this performance from Aaron Jones. 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: We talked all off season, how is Matt the Floor 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: going to use all these running backs? How is he gonna, 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, get them involved in the passing game out 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: of the backfield. Aaron Jones was practically a receiver in 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this game with how much they flanked him out wide. 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: And and that was a decoy that the Packers have 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: used in the past. But very rarely would the ball 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: be that you know, he would that receiver be that 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: running back be the first or second read for Aaron Rodgers. 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: These plays were designed for Aaron Jones, and he made 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City pay. I really thought it was funny. You know, 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: early on, he has that sixty yard touchdown that ends 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: up getting brought back ten yards because they ruled that 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: he stepped out of bounds even though you know, there 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: really wasn't anybody by him. He kind of outsprinted everybody, 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: but his toe just touches the white chalk. He went 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: back to the sign line and he told Aaron Rodgers, 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I owe you another one and then lo and behold 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: here we are. That a fiery explosive third quarter from 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay to pull themselves back into this and then 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: they come out in the fourth quarter and they carry 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: that momentum. He gets the sixty seven yard touchdown seven catches, 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: is a career high hundred fifty nine yards of receiving 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: two and twenty six yards of total offense. Both he 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams were responsible for all four Packers touchdowns. 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Can't say enough about the performance of those two running backs. Yeah, 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: and Aaron Jones. Now with eleven total touchdowns on the 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: season at the midway point um A note to watch here. 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: The Packers single season record is twenty touchdowns him on 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Green in two thousand and three. So Aaron Jones on 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: pace when you look at the math, halfway to potentially 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: getting that record. Yes, eight rushing touchdowns now three receiving 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns and as you said, could have had another one 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: last night if not for the foot just barely hitting 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the sideline there that the replay review caught. But I 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: tell you West, the explosiveness of this young man is 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: it's really amazing. And yes, he got some great blocks 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: and everything else, but um, but boy, he's he's just 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: an electric player on the field. We talked all week 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: last week about tie Re kill and Nicole Hardman and 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: these guys that the Kansa City Chiefs have, and they 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: certainly lived up to their building as well, even with 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: backup quarterback Matt Moore put on a very solid performance 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs gave the Packers absolutely everything they could 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: handle in this game. But Aaron Jones takes a backseat 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: to no one in the NFL right now. He is 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: He is dynamic. He is on the field every down 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: he is. He is a three down back, whether you 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: need him to protect Aaron Rodgers, whether you need him 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: to run the ball from the two yard line with 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: five minutes to go, whether you want to flank him 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: out and get him in a matchup to against a 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: linebacker to see if you can get an explosive play. 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: He's just doing everything for this offense right now at 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a time over the last month when the Packers have 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: absolutely needed it with the Vante Adams missing his fourth 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: straight game and lo and behold, the Packers are four 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: and oh without their pro Bowl wide receiver. One of 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the things I thought was really interesting that you know, 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: a little small factor, and I dug up the fact 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: that Jones and Williams and these four games together. In 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: mind you Jamal Williams didn't play in one of those. Uh, 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: they've combined for seven fifty four total yards eleven touchdowns 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the first four to start the season four twelve yards 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: and five touchdowns. I mean, both of those guys have 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, taken their game to another level. But here's 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the thing, Mike, we talked about it from the very 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: beginning when they didn't have Davontae Adams, and they're working 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: through some of these things offensively that they need to 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: get through. Who are your next biggest playmakers? You can 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: make an argument that Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams are 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: those next guys and when the moment is called for 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: both of them have you know, kind of risen to 86 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: the occasion. But at the end of the day, the 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: thing we're starting to learn, you know, halfway through this 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: regular season, now, Aaron Jones isn't just a really good 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: running back. He's becoming one of the more explosive players 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: in this entire league when you get him the ball 91 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: in open space. And I thought you brought up a 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: good point a moment ago. When you talk about Hardman, 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about Hill, when you talk about Watkins, 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: then how dangerous they can be in the open field. 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones was the counter to that. And you saw 96 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: when you know, if you get him in space and 97 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: there's no tackles around him, his explosiveness and his top 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: end speed. I don't know, to be honest with you, 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: And I think it was Vick Fangio that said this 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: a month ago. How this guy ever went in the 101 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: fifth round is just beyond me. He's just he's such 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: a dynamic football player, and you know, for the first 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: time in his career, he's winning. He didn't win a 104 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: lot at you tap, you win a lot his first 105 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: two years in Green Bay. But here the Packers are 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: at seven and one and they got a player like this, 107 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: who mind you gutted through his shoulder injury that momentarily 108 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: took him out of the game. He came back, didn't 109 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: look any worse for wear. And I'm sure you're gonna 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: talk about this too, but when the Packers needed to 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: run the ball too in the four minute offense late 112 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: to kill the last five or four off the clock, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: he did that as well. He got them two first downs, 114 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: twenty nine rushing yards, and allowed the Packers to kneel 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: at the ball after an eight yard outroute on third 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: and five. The confidence that Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: showed him that young man, it's just incredible what he's 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: put together here the last month. Yeah. Well, and then 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: you look at the rest of what was going on 120 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: on offense. Obviously two six yards from scrimmage from Aaron 121 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Jones and a couple of touchdowns you mentioned Jamal Williams. 122 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, by the way, puts up a hundred and 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: twenty plus passer rating three another three hundred yard game, 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no interceptions. Yes, he got sacked a handful 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: of times. Of the Chiefs definitely gave the Packers some 126 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: issues with their pressure packages. But again, Aaron Rodgers executes 127 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: a game plan, doesn't really ever put the ball in 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: danger of being turned over. Um, all of these things 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: that you come to just expect from Aaron Rodgers, and 130 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: obviously you don't want to take it for granted. But um, 131 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: but boy, that touchdown pass to Jamal Williams. I don't know. 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought. We're sitting next to 133 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: each other in the press box. I don't know what 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you thought at the moment. I didn't even see Jamal 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Williams in the back of the end zone. I'm my 136 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: eyes are on Rogers and on Jimmy Graham, And as 137 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: soon as the ball left Rogers hand, I'm like, oh, 138 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: he just he threw it over his head on purpose. 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: It's going out of bounds. They're going to kick the 140 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: field goal and and take a three point lead, and 141 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams is streaking across the back of the end 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: zone and makes a diving catch by the by the 143 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: back pylon. And sure enough, you ask Aaron Rodgers after 144 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the game, Yeah, he saw him. He did, he didn't 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: see him like I'm just I'm I'm blown away by 146 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the stuff we are seeing on a weekly basis from 147 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: this Packers offense and that touchdown pass I don't know 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: how to rank him anymore, West, but that touchdown passes 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: is one that's somewhere on a list for me. I 150 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: still for this as far as this season is concerned. 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: That touchdown he had where he threw it into Aaron 152 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Jones for like triple coverage in the end zone a 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, that's still the That's the top 154 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: one in terms of just the overall skill level and 155 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: the narrow window. He had some room to work with 156 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: because he was near the sideline. But let's be honest, Mike, 157 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the Packers needed to make plays in that second half, 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers did just that, uh to to find 159 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: a way. On that particular play, you gotta remember they're 160 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: sitting there. I believe it was third and one at 161 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: that point. I think you and I were both anticipating, Okay, 162 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: is this where you run it and then see if 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: you get the first down. If you don't go for it, 164 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: well then they end up coming out an empty set, 165 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: which if you go by the you know, the statistics 166 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: on the night. I don't know how it all ended 167 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: up shuffling out, but that ended up being one of 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: their better packages when they were able to take the 169 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: inside linebacker out of the equation and make sure that 170 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: they had to make a decision with how they were 171 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: defending the running back well, and that one was with 172 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: all of your run offensive personnel on the field. So 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint, you're thinking the Packers are going 174 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: to run the ball, but then they spread it out 175 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: and go empty, and then it's like, okay, well what's 176 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: coming now. I mean it was I was. I was 177 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: stunned by what was going on, and then even more 178 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: stunned by the touchdown catch that ended the end of 179 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: the drive. It was a big shift and it was 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: funny listening to, you know, Jimmy Graham tell it, and 181 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: you know he's thinking he's boxing out the safety or 182 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: the cornerback there. He thought the ball was going to 183 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: come for him. And the way Rogers described it in 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: his postgame news conference was that he wanted to put 185 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: in an area that if Jimmy could go up and 186 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: get it, it's there. But if it isn't he saw 187 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: that body whoever it was, and it turned out being 188 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams in the back that that white jersey that 189 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,119 Speaker 1: could potentially help him out as well. And for Williams 190 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: to show the urgency too. And as you pointed out 191 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: when we were discussing this earlier, Kansas City did everything right. 192 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: The cornerback switched. Jones is covered, Graham is relatively covered. 193 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: As much as you can cover a six ft seven guy, 194 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: it's backing you out. But for Jones to stay with 195 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: the play, curl to the back of the end zone, 196 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: try to find a way to you know, find some 197 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: open space and then make that catch along the sideline 198 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: was absolutely critical for the Packers to capitalize there and 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: keep the momentum in their favor. And Jones, I mean Williams, 200 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, people aren't going to talk a lot about 201 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: him because there's all the stats that Aaron Jones put 202 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: up in this game. But Jamal Williams, for what he 203 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: was asked to do in this contest, including the one 204 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run early on behind Danny Vitally, he was 205 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: also a very critical part of what the Packers were 206 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: able to do in Kansas City. Yeah, well, you use 207 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: the word momentum, and I want to get back to 208 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: that thought in a second, but I don't want to 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: forget about this either. Select Cousin Subs locations are now 210 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: offering to livery whether you're ordering catering or your favorite sub, 211 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they're delivering right to you when you order online at 212 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Cousins Subs dot com. Cousin Subs we believe in better 213 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: all right, Wes, you said it, momentum. It was a 214 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: game of momentum shifts, certainly really, from the beginning of 215 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: the game all the way to the end. The Packers 216 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: jump out fourteen nothing in the first quarter. The Chiefs 217 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: come back with an explosive second quarter. They score seventeen points. 218 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: The Packers fortunately hold them to a field goal on 219 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: that final drive before halftime, so the Packers are down 220 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: fourteen and a half. Green Bay puts together a long 221 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: third quarter drive that takes more than eight and a 222 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: half minutes off the clock, but Packers have to settle 223 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: for a field goal. Aaron Rodgers talked about his helmet 224 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: communicator going out, which partly led to the delay of 225 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: game and the goal to go, and then also the 226 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: time out they had to use before the third down play, 227 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: but anyway, so the Packers get the field goal that 228 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: ties it. And then first play of the Chiefs next drive, 229 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Lancaster, the undrafted second year defensive lineman from Northwestern, 230 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: makes the biggest play by far of his young career, 231 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: stripped Shady McCoy and gets the fumal recovery at the 232 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven yard line, sets up the Packers for the 233 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: go ahead touched on, which turned out to be then 234 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: that fabulous t d catch by Williams. Yeah, and it 235 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: was really interesting talking to some of the guys in 236 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the locker room. Lancaster was certainly very humble and excited 237 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: that he was able to make the play. As he said, 238 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: you know the way he was describing it, you know, 239 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: when he's basically filling the A gap and when McCoy 240 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: makes a decision to cut into the B gap, Lancaster 241 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: has one play at that point, and it's basically to 242 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: stick his arm out there and see if he could 243 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: find football, which he did, much to his surprise. The 244 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: ball end up bouncing directly, you know, into his gut basically, Yeah, 245 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: while he's laying on the ground there there it is, 246 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: so he gets a fumble recover. He said it kind 247 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: reminded him of play at Northwestern, very similar, where he's 248 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: doing his job inside, he punches the ball, it ends 249 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: up getting out back for a touchdown. But again one 250 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: of those just calm, kind of happy accidents, right. That 251 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: was the uh, you know, the old phrase, and and 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: for him to come up in that moment. I was 253 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: asking Preston Smith about this afterwards. You know, you can 254 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: make all you want about Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, Jyr Alexander, 255 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos, I mean, all the name type players on 256 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: this defense. If you want to be a team that 257 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: can win in the postseason, you need to have the 258 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Lancasters of the world making a play here and there. 259 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: At a critical point in the game, Sadarius Stephen mentioned 260 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: know when he went back to Silon Packers, they got 261 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: punched in the mouth in the second quarter. It did 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: not go the way they wanted to. They came out great. 263 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: I think the first seven plays or six plays, kan 264 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: City only mounted seven yards of total offense. But they 265 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: started to find those weapons underneath in the second quarter, 266 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: and those weapons made guys miss. They were able to 267 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: put up a ton of yards and Zadarius said, you know, 268 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: this was kind of the thought in the locker room 269 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: is that this is our time. We have to prove 270 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: that we can. You don't not break in this moment, 271 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: we can come back together. I thought a really under 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: rate play was the fact that Jire Alexander finally stuffing 273 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Watkins for a two yard loss on what that little 274 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: receiver screen they kept burning the Packers for in the 275 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: second quarter. Yeah, one of those funky X and no 276 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: scheme things, and and Alexander was very quick to react 277 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: to it. And I thought that I agree with you. 278 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was another play that showed the Packers defense, 279 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: which had its issues and there were miss tackles and 280 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: and you know, you knew these playmakers for the Chiefs, 281 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to do some things. But I 282 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: thought that was a play where the Packers defense kind 283 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: of started to stand tall and get a little bit 284 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: of that mojo back again. And I mean, for Alexander 285 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: just shot out of a canon to make that play, 286 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: and then that's what sets up to Darius Smith then 287 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: getting the third down sack. And as cool as that 288 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: was for Green Bay to get a stop out of 289 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: the break right after Kansas City had scored at the 290 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: end of the first half, it was even more important 291 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: to finally get a takeaway. There was one turnover in 292 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: this game. It came by Tyler Lancaster when he went 293 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: back to the sideline. The story I was trying to 294 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: mention is that Darius Smith went up to him and 295 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: basically thanked him and said, you know, kind of saved 296 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: our bacon on that play to be able to get 297 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: a turnover, get the offensive all the back at the 298 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven yard line, they go in and they score 299 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: from there, and then that really was the momentum shift 300 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: they needed. Truman Williams said it to in that locker 301 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: room afterwards. That was the play of the game. And 302 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: to have a guy like Tyler Lancaster who in this 303 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: particular game plan, it wasn't a Tyler Lancaster game. Packers 304 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: use a lot of hybrid defenses, including their base package, 305 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: to account for the speed of Kansas City, but when 306 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Lancaster had to be in there and make a play, 307 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: he certainly did that. Yeah, Well, if there's another play 308 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 1: on the defensive side that stands out aside from Zadarius 309 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: Smith's two sacks, Packers didn't really get. I don't think 310 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: the pressure on Matt Moore consistently that they were hoping for, 311 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: especially with the Chiefs being down a couple of starting 312 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman's Darius Smith did get the two sacks. But 313 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: the other defensive play that stands out is in the 314 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. As we talk about the momentum shift, So 315 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: the Packers go up by a touchdown. After the turnover, 316 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs come back and score a touchdown. Packers thought 317 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: they had him stopped, but Tremont Williams gets the flag 318 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: for the hands to the face on the down, so 319 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: they get an extra first and goal and then they score, 320 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: so it's tied up. Then Aaron Jones gets the sixty 321 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown off the screen pass, so the Packers 322 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: are back ahead and the Chiefs are coming back third down. 323 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Who does Matt Moore want to go to a course? 324 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: It's Travis Kelsey, his reliable and very dynamic tight end 325 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: and your guy, Wes Jandon Sullivan. I give you credit, man, 326 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. You said it last time, 327 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. You had your eye on this 328 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: guy from very early in training camp, and I'll admit 329 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: I had my doubts because what I saw in camping 330 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason was a guy who made who was 331 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: flagged for just as many penalties as for the plays 332 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: he was making. So that left me wondering, Okay, this 333 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: guy's on the bubble. I'm not really sure. You were 334 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: pretty confident that he was going to make the team. 335 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: And what we've seen when he's been thrown into these 336 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: situations in the regular season is he's not committing the 337 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: penalties we were seeing in the preseason. He's making the plays. 338 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: And he breaks up that third down pass over the 339 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: middle to Travis Kelsey and that turns out to be 340 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chief's last offensive play of the game. 341 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Play of this game, really really solid play by Sullivan 342 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: at a big moment. Yeah, and Sullivan was all smiles 343 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards. I mean, you got understand 344 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: where this young man came from. He's not an undrafted rookie. 345 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he is an undrafted free agent. But he 346 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: was with Philadelphia last year. He started a game for 347 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles and kind of got tossed aside in May 348 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and he ends up on the street free agent scrap heap. 349 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: The Packers pick him up and had a really deep 350 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: position he ends up mounting a run. What's impressive, though, 351 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the most about Sullivan is that he's done this at 352 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: two different positions. He's playing both cornerback and safety and 353 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: almost indiscriminately. I mean, they use them either spot and 354 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: doesn't really seem like Mike Petton has any trepidation about 355 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: deploying him at either spot. In this particular game, a 356 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: lot of safety because Adrian Amos was moving up into 357 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: the box of that nitro nickel package, allowing them to, 358 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, have some flexibility out front. Sullivan has a 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: great skill set. He was a big ball hawk at 360 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Georgia State, which is a still a young program. Didn't 361 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of national recognition there, but he stayed home, 362 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: came from an area where there's a lot of talent, 363 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: big hot bed in that Atlanta metro section of Georgia, 364 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: and sort of got overlooked. But if you look at 365 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: his speed, if you look at his coverage ability, I 366 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of talent in this young man. 367 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: And it was also funny too, Mike. He ends up 368 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: being the kickoff returner for the Packers in this game. 369 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: He had eight kickoff returns at Georgia State. He hasn't 370 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: returned to kickoff since two thousand fifteen, his sophomore year. 371 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: And suddenly, you know, Sean Meninga goes up to him 372 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: this week and says, I'd like to use you in 373 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: this way, And he said, all right, I'm up for 374 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Why not. Right, This is as you said 375 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: with Lancaster. I mean, these are the type of performances 376 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: you can have. Your Darius smith Is, your Smith's and 377 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: your Preston Smith's. They're critical. That's how you went to 378 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. No question, you need those guys out there. 379 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: But it's the one eleven thing. I know some people 380 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: think that can be a cliche, but it's absolutely true. 381 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: You need the Lancasters and the Sullivan's to pick you up, 382 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: and in this particular game they did, and they made 383 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: arguably one A, one B for the biggest plays in 384 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: this contest to put away a very dangerous Kansas City team. Yeah, 385 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: and that breakup, that pass breakup by Sullivan on third 386 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: down leads to the Chiefs punting. They pinned the Packers 387 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: back on the two yard line from the two, five 388 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: oh four on the clock. I thought the first play 389 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: running Aaron Jones right up the gut and he powers 390 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: his way for six yards gets the Packers out to 391 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: the eight yard line. I thought that really set the 392 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: tone because that was that was a moment. The Packers 393 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: did not run the ball as well as I thought 394 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: they were going to in this game. Based on Kansas 395 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: City's defensive run statistics coming in, the Packers had not 396 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: reached a hundred yards rushing as a team in this game. 397 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: You know, heading into that final drive, they end up 398 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: running seven consecutive running place, six of those from Aaron Jones, 399 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: one from Jamal Williams, and uh boy, that was some 400 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what the right phrases. Big boy football 401 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: is kind of what some people call it. That was 402 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: a big time gut check moment. You're on your own 403 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: two yard line, You're trying to protect a seven point lead, 404 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: You're in allowed stadium, you know, road environment, not a 405 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: place you're familiar with playing in all of that, and 406 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: you're starting right tackles. Out of the game. Brian Blog 407 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: has gone to the locker room with a hand injury, 408 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: so Alex Light is filling in at right tackle. Even 409 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Evan Bayliss as the third tight end, is coming in 410 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: to block on some snaps there, and the Packers got 411 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: it done. Three first downs, the third one coming right 412 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: after the two minute warning on the only pass of 413 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: the drive, the little quick out to Aaron Jones for 414 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: the kill shot. I guess you could say, because that 415 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: was the one that put the game away. But what 416 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: a drive I mean from your own two yard line 417 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: five minutes and four seconds the Chiefs, I said this 418 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: an insider inbox. The Chiefs had to be liking their chances. 419 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: You pin the Packers on the two, there's five minutes 420 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: on the clock. Andy Reid is thinking we're getting We're 421 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball back here like we're Matt Moore 422 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: is going to get one more shot at this and uh, 423 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: Packers didn't give him that one more shot five oh 424 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: four with all your time outs. That's a favorable situation 425 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: for any team that's looking to, you know, mount to 426 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: late comeback the thing. There's a couple of things that 427 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: stood out to me in this one. By far. This 428 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: is the Packers best four minute offense that they've had 429 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: since two thousand thirteen. Even in fourteen, when Eddie Lazy 430 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: was running the way he was, they didn't close out 431 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: games the way they're doing it this year. They did 432 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: it in thirteen. It's one of the reasons why they 433 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: ended up making the playoffs. But it's exceptional what they've 434 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: been able to do in this first half of the 435 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: season when you have to have those yards, when they 436 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: know that you're going to run the football and you 437 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: get them anyway. The one thing I disagree with you 438 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: on is that first play. Use the word power for 439 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, and there is a good way to use it. 440 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: But the thing I even look at two is it 441 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: was a finesse type run. It's incredible to me. If 442 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: you go back and watch that, he made a little 443 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: sliver in the off pensive line look like a gaping 444 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: hole with how he's able to slice through there. You 445 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: are absolutely right about the power. That's what it was though, 446 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: every single time between the tackles pound pound pound offensive 447 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: line did a great job, especially as you mentioned with 448 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: having Alex Lighton, they're having to work through some things. 449 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: David Baktiari left momentarily early on. Light was playing left 450 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: tackle for two plays. He returned to the game. But 451 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, it is incredible to me. For as much 452 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: as people thought he was a scat back or you know, 453 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of an outside stretch type runner man. He can 454 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: run between the tackles and it doesn't matter how big 455 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: the whole. If the hole is large, if the play 456 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: is well blocked, he's taken it from you know, an 457 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: explosive play. But even if there's just a sliver there. 458 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: The guy is so quick and versatile and with his size, 459 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: he really makes you pay. In Kansas City, despite loading 460 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: up the box, despite knowing what was coming, they couldn't 461 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: do it. And then you wrote about it too. But 462 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, the guts that he showed in his quarterback 463 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: and his running back, in his offense after the two 464 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: minute warning, Kansas City doesn't have any time outs left, 465 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: but there is one fifty eight or whatever on the clock. 466 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: You run it, you know, maybe you take it. You 467 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: get forty seconds off, and you see what you leave 468 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Matt Moore with. They didn't do that. They went and 469 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: past the ball and Aaron Jones made a phenomenal play 470 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: catch to end that ball game. Yeah, well, we've seen 471 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: we've seen this evolution west over the last I don't know, 472 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: maybe what the time frame is, seven to eight years, 473 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe ten years in the NFL, that situation two minutes 474 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: to go, the other teams out of time outs, your 475 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: third and five in your own territory, I say ten 476 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, NFL coaches would run the ball, try 477 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: to get the first down. Not saying you're just giving up, 478 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: but you run it and try to get the five yards. 479 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: If you don't, you run the clock down under one twenty. 480 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: You punt the ball back to them. They have a 481 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: little over a minute left with no time outs, and 482 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: they need a touchdown to tie the game or go 483 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: for the win if they want to go for two 484 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: this day and age, if you got the ball in 485 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks hands, you're going You're going for the win. 486 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: On offense, you're doing whatever it takes to not have 487 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: to put your defense back out on the field. That's 488 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: the decision Matt Lafleur made. The Packers executed it, and 489 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: uh and they drained that last five oh four after 490 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: the first down, even with Aaron Jones going out of bounds, 491 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: it was sub two minute warning. Chiefs are out of 492 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: time outs, kneel down three times, those last two minutes 493 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: off the clock are gone, and the Packers are seven 494 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: and one and one. Thing I love about the NFL 495 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand, nineteen two. Is that you can throw 496 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: to your running backs ten times. You get all the 497 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: production that the Packers got out of Bolchamal Williams and 498 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, and there's no longer a negative stigma or 499 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: cashid to that. It's a respect factor because you know, 500 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: even go back about twelve years Mike, I remember people 501 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: people just ran Trent Edwards out of the league because 502 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: I was checked down, Charlie, and you know, you're always 503 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: going to the running backs. I honestly think it's sort 504 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: of I mean, Shaun McVeigh deserves a lot of credit 505 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: for this. Certainly you look at at what Kyle Shanahan's 506 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: doing and now Matt Lafleur, But I go back to 507 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of what Bill Belichick was doing a ten years ago, 508 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: when it's like, you know what, if the running back 509 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: is the best option, and the tight ends are covering, 510 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: the receivers are covered, get him the football. No team 511 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: over the last ten fifteen years has moved the changes 512 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: consistently as New England Patriots in the NFL, and and 513 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: seeing these type of things where it's like, you know what, 514 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: you have a your top quarterback against your top receiver. 515 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: You have your second quarterback against your second receiver. You 516 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: have all these things. It's like, Okay, that's the way 517 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: game of football is played. Where's your arguably your biggest mismatch. 518 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: If you have a dynamic running back, it's against the linebacker, 519 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: it's against a collapsing safety. It's incredible. It's simplistic. It 520 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: is it's crazy, and it's simplistic what this game, you know, 521 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: can be if you allow it to be. But again, 522 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: you have to be able to make the catch. You 523 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: have to be able to make you throw exactly. You 524 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: have to be able to execute it. You have to 525 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: be able to execute it and take advantage of it 526 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: when the opportunities present themselves. And that's what the Packers did. 527 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: And Matt floor Man, I mean, I was thinking about 528 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: this as we're walking out the building last night. I mean, 529 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: at some point, I mean, there's some really good coaching 530 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: performances going on in this league right now, but when 531 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about Coach of the Year accolades and things 532 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: like that, at least at the midway point of this season, 533 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: I think he has to be firmly in that conversation. 534 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: It's incredible what he's done with this offense and what 535 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: he's done with this team for the first eight games 536 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 1: this season, and the Packers are seven and one, as 537 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford pointed out in one last look last week, 538 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand eleven. Yeah, the 539 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: first time they've had seven wins four Halloween since two 540 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, when the Packers were eight and no 541 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: at the halfway points. So well, seven and one, one 542 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: game ahead of the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC North. 543 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: We'll get to where things stand in the NFC and 544 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: all that and the rest of the Week eight results 545 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: in the NFL on tomorrow's show, but for now we 546 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: have to call it a wrap on this edition of 547 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 548 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: of the team on Packers dot com. 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