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My pillow dot Com promo code Hannity, you 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: will love this pillow Sean Hannay's show. We just came 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: back from an amazing trip to Israel. One of the 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: highlights was literally showing how small a country this is 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: joining us. Now is the Prime Minister who I was 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: gonna have on Friday's program, but obviously we got delayed 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: with other issues. As the Prime Minister, thank you for 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: taking time today. How are you, sir? It's great to 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: see you. Well, fine, it was wonderful to see you 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: in Israel. It's good to talk to you today. You 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: know that helicopter right. I don't know if you had 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: a chance to watch the program, but when you actually 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: see it up close, and you see that when we 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: take off from Tel Aviv on the Mediterranean and we 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: go up the coast and you're looking out your window 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: and you can see the borders and you can see 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: where where Israel's enemies are, just like team when I 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: was in Gaza, and you look out in towns like 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: st And and where they've been hit with ten thousand 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: rockets and ten years from Gaza. It is It is 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the most precarious, defensible, most precarious and dangerous situation on 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: the face of the Earth's Yeah, let me try to 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: give your audience a feeling for the size of Israel. 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: If you fly across the United States from the east 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: coast to the west coast will take you about five hours, right, 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: all right. If you fly from the west coast of 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Israel to the eastern border of Israel, it will take 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: you on that same airplane five minutes. You got that 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: five five minutes with you know, so five hours compared 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: to five minutes. Of Israel is a small country, an 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: exceedingly small country. It's about the size of New Jersey. 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: But it is a very powerful country, among other things, 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: because of the spirit of our people, the courage of 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: our soldiers, and the friendship that we enjoy with the 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: American people, and the help of the United States. We 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: appreciate that very much. Israel is a forward position for 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: the United States and for the Western world, for Western civilization. 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I you know, if you look at it, you say, 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: there's the United States, you know, there's Europe. Then you 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: get to Israel and it sort of stops at that point. 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there are other friends of the United States, 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, very glad that they there are 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: governments in our region in the Middle East who are 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: friendly with the United States. But Israel is the only 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: place where both the people and the governments, the government 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: and the people are solidly pro American, solidly pro Western, 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: solidly rooted in our common values of democracy and freedom. 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And that's the strength of Israel, our values and our 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: willingness to defend those values. And when we defend ourselves, 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: we also defend our common civilization against our common enemies there, 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: enemies that are called militant Islam, you know, Mr Prime Minister, 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: you can see that inclusive. This just when you go 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: to the Old City in Jerusalem where you have a 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Jewish sector, and you have an Armenian sector, and you 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: have a Christian sector, and you have a Muslim sector, 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: all in what how many square miles are we talking about? 75 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Where all of the one square mile Lef's and and 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: so all of these religions you know, are included in 77 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: this this historic land which is Israel and Jerusalem. Indeed 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: it is, yeah, but uh they are. But I have 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: to say that in the all the thousands of years 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: of Jewsalem history, and then since and in all the 81 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: centuries since the rise of the Great UH monotheistic religions, Judaism, 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Christianity and Islam. The only time that people of these 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: three faiths could worship freely in their respective religious sites 84 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: has been under Israel's sovereignty. When Israel became the sa 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: R of Jerusalem, when Israel became responsible to maintain UH 86 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: peace and tranquility for the holy sites, that's when you've 87 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: had UH that kind of unfettered access and that kind 88 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: of religious freedom. And you know that's no small thing 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, where you have militant islam Is 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: butchering other Muslims, butchering Christians. Christians are under tremendous assault 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Uh. You know, the fact is 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: that the only place where those rights are guaranteed and 93 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: where Christians are guaranteed a thriving future is in the 94 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: state of Israel. And today this year, we're marking fifty 95 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: years of the liberation of Jerusalem. In fifty years of 96 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: religious freedom in this holy city. What is the percentage 97 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: of Arabs that actually vote in Israeli elections? For those 98 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: that don't know how inclusive Israel as a country is, well, 99 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: people don't know that, you know, of the Israel's eight 100 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: million citizens, over a million, close to a million and 101 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: a half are actually citizens, and they're the ones who 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: you know. They vote for Parliament, they vote in our elections, 103 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: they serve in the government, they serve on the Supreme Court. Uh, 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: people don't know that, and they'll probably look in the 105 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Middle East. I don't think that's very common to have 106 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: that kind was a genuine democracy, Mr Prime Minister. Yeah, 107 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: it's maligned terribly, but it is in fact the beacon 108 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: of liberty and human rights in an otherwise uh fairly 109 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: dark region. I don't disagree with that at all. Let 110 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: me ask you, I thought the best speech. And I've 111 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: known you for well over two decades of my life now, 112 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: going back a long time, and I've known you when 113 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: the first time you were Prime minister. I've known you 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: since that time now that you've taken and that you 115 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: may end up being the longest consecutive serving prime minister 116 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: in Israeli history, following Ben Gurion. But I guess the 117 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: best speech I think you ever gave was here on 118 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: American soil when you came to talk and speak out 119 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: against this horrible Iranian deal. And that is a hundred 120 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and fifty billion taxpayer dollars going to Iran. They spend 121 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: their center fuges, questionable, questionable inspections twenty five days notice, 122 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the right to a partner with Russia to build missile defense, 123 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: build their conventional weapons. It was a horrible deal. You 124 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: tried to warn America. President Obama was very angry that 125 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: you came here and spoke that way. But I thought 126 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: it was one of your best speeches. You know. I 127 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: went back and I looked at Bill Clinton. He promised 128 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: that when he gave North Korea four billion dollars, they 129 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't get nuclear weapons while they got them. And President 130 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: Obama and Susan Rice and John Kerry said once they 131 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: drew the red line in the sand with Syria, they 132 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't get they wouldn't they got rid of all their 133 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: chemical weapons. We know that's not true. To me, this 134 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: deal will facilitate a nuclear armed Iran unless they're stopped. 135 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: What is your warning to the people of this world. Look, 136 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: I spoke about this with President Trump UH and with 137 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense A. Gemmattic, who was just here. I 138 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: think we see ey do I I don't think I 139 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: know we see I do I that Ran is not 140 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: the solution to the problems in the Middle East, but 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: in many ways the main problem, because most of you know, 142 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: all the countries in the region are suffering from Iranian aggression. 143 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: And to have this Iran that is the foremost sponsor 144 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: of terrorism in the world, to have this terrorist state 145 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: walk into a nuclear arsenal, which is what this agreement 146 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: ultimately pays, is obviously a big mistake. And yes, I 147 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: took that message UH to the American Congress. I had. 148 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I had many areas of agreement with the President Obama, 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: but I as also some disagreements, and this was a 150 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: very strong area of disagreement because I think that a 151 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: nuclear Iran threatens the future of my country, and I've 152 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: felt obligated to speak about it. This agreement does not 153 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: obligate Israel. We will do anything that we need to 154 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: do to make sure of the terrorist regime that calls 155 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: death to America, death to UH, that harms harasses you 156 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: as ships, that's killed you a soldiers in Iraq, that 157 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: stamps on American flags and threatens to eradicate my state, 158 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: I'll do everything in my power to make sure that 159 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: this regime does not have nuclear weapons. Well, I think 160 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: it's a simple mathematical equation. A square nuclear weapons B 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: squared in the arms of radical Islamic Mullahs, the number 162 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: one state sponsor in the world, equals a potential holocaust. 163 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: And I don't use that word lightly in our time. 164 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: And I know you talked about it this weekend. Prime 165 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: Minister Benjamin not Yahoo was with us. He'll stay a 166 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: few minutes longer on the other side. Eight nine one, 167 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Shawn toll Free telephone number. All Right, as we continue 168 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin, that Yahoo continues 169 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: with us. My next question to you is you know 170 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: one of the maybe a positive outcome um of the 171 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: president of President Obama's really bad deal is it has 172 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: brought Israel closer. A new alliance is emerging in the 173 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Middle East with Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, with the Egyptians, 174 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: the Jordanians, and if you had America to that equation, 175 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: it seems to me that there is an alliance strong 176 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: enough to stop Iranian hegemony in the region and to 177 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: stop their pursuit of nuclear weapon. There's no question of 178 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the countries in the region see as I do that 179 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Ivan is the greatest threat to the peace and tranquility 180 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: of the region. There is a very broad agreement of that. 181 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: And it's before I was the only one speaking out loud. 182 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: The others we were saying that openly. And again there's 183 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: a clear change in the American position, a very welcome 184 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: change that President Trump has annunciated. Uh. Look, today is 185 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Holocaust Day, Holocaust Remembrance Day, and my responsibility is the 186 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, is to make sure that such tragedies never repeat. 187 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: I think this is obviously something of vital interest to 188 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: me and my people, but I think it's also something 189 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: of vital interests to the world, to America and to 190 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: all civilized people. Iran seeks to dominate the world. Iran 191 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: seeks nuclear weapons. Iran is also building submarines, satellites, precision 192 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: guided missiles, and many many other weapons. And it is 193 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: arming terrorists left and right. It is threatening, It is 194 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: trying to conquer Yemen. It is in Iraq, it is 195 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: in Syria. It has killed many many Americans. It is 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: supporting to his bone Lebanon. This is an all purpose 197 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: terrorist state. Uh. It also hangs gays, It kills opposition 198 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: their leaders, hangs him from cranes. It tortures journalists. Iran 199 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: is a bad deal, it's a bad regime. It should 200 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. And yes, it 201 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: is creating a change in our part of the world because, 202 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: as I told you last week, for the first time 203 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: in my lifetime, many of the Arab states I think 204 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: differently about Israel, not is there all enemy rather but 205 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: let me ask you about that, because you said to 206 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: me in this interview, I want peace. I've been to war, 207 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: and you said that in the case of the Palestinians, 208 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: they need to prove that they want peace. And Maho, 209 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: a boss, for example, says one thing about the blood 210 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: of israelis when he is in the Middle East, and 211 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: he'll be coming to see the president soon, and I 212 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: am fairly certain that he will tell the President just 213 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the opposite and won't be reiterating those things he says 214 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: when he's back home. So my question to you is, 215 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, is there another option besides land for peace 216 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: because you barely have defensible borders now, is there an 217 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: option to partner, say with the Emirates of the Saudias, 218 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: and perhaps President Trump can can broker that deal. I 219 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: think there are many possibilities in the region, and I'd 220 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: love to be able to uh speak to President Trump 221 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: about that. Continue the conversation we had. As far as 222 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: the Palestinians are concerned and as far as Israel is concerned, 223 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: nobody wants peace more than Israel because we know the 224 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: cost of war. I know the cost of war. I 225 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: lost my older brother in the war of on terrorism. 226 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: He felt while leading the Israeli rescue mission to untended 227 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: to release one three Israeli hostages. It succeeded, but he 228 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: was the lone military casualty of this great rescue mission. 229 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: I myself was wounded um in trying to successfully rescueing 230 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: in the shoulder. I remember, yeah, No, I wasn't. The 231 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: shoulder was in my arm and I still do it. Uh. 232 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: But from a friendly fire too. But we burst into 233 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: a Sabina airplane in order to liberate uh, Israeli another 234 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: passengers who were held hostage by four terrorists too for 235 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Palestinian terrorists, and we were able to overcome them. So 236 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, if you face death, if you've experienced death 237 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: of your loved ones in fallen comrades, uh, you know 238 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: the cost or and therefore you know nobody wants peace 239 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: more than Israel. The people of his A yearned for peace, 240 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: pray for peace, and are ready to do a lot 241 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: for peace. One thing they're not ready to do is 242 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: give land, which is then turned not for the purpose 243 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: of peace, but turned against us as a base to 244 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: attack us. That is, unfortunately what has happened in the past. 245 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: We yield the territory, but we didn't get we gave 246 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: the land, we didn't get peace. We got thousands of 247 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: rockets fired in the cities of Israel. And we don't 248 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: want to have that happen again. The Palestinians, you know, 249 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: they speak peace to uh foreign audiences, but to their 250 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: own people, they say, you know, we have to dissolve 251 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: the state of Israel. Knife israelis um, we can't accept 252 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: a Jewish state. And I'm talking about unfortunately their leaders. 253 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that change, if it changes, if 254 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: they accept as will genuinely. Uh, you know, we could 255 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: have uh, we could have a brilliant teacher for both 256 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Israelis and Palestinians. How can how can how can a 257 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: boss speak of peace with us Israel and at the 258 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: same time pay terrorists murderers, okay, who are in our 259 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: jails and there's paying them stipends. He's paying the families 260 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: of uh dead terrorists three million dollars a year or 261 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: thereabouts hundreds of millions of dollars a years over a decade. 262 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: That's a billion dollars going to pay terrorists who are 263 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: hell bent on murdering Israelis. So I'd like to see 264 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: a change in that. These are the kinds of you know. 265 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: I have no conditions on the meeting and talking. Uh, 266 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: that's fine, But if you really want to see a change, 267 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: I moved towards peace that Israelis would embrace and would 268 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: would would be enthusiastic about. Is to see a real 269 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: change in the Palestinian policies. You if someone paid anyone 270 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: who murdered Americans by a sliding scale, the more Americans 271 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: they killed, the more money they got, which is what 272 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the Palestinian authority is paying these Palestinian killers, wouldn't you 273 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: expect to see a change if they said they professed 274 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: they wanted peace. Well, I believe that the Palestinians just 275 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: stop paying terrorists murders. That's the way to get to peace, 276 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: and that's the law of the land. As the Prime Minister, 277 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: who was an honor to see you, it was great 278 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: to be back in your country, Um, incredible hospitality by everybody. 279 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: It is also great to have you back here. We 280 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: look forward in your back to when you are back 281 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: in the States and uh, thank you so much for 282 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: all the time and your generosity. Thank you, sir, Thank you, John. 283 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you alright one, 284 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Sean Tolfrey telephone number. You want to be a part 285 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: of the program, Jeff Sessions when we get back. As 286 00:16:49,240 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: we continue, Taylor Force was an outstanding young American with 287 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: distinguished record of service at the Military Academy and then overseas. 288 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: He was what every parent could hope their son could be. 289 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that the record that he put 290 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: together is remembered by Americans and is a positive force 291 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: for change in the world. The taxpayer dollars are no 292 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: longer going to subsidize the murder of American citizens or 293 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Israeli citizens, and that Palestinian people are no longer subsidized 294 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: with American money in a leadership that encourages this kind 295 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: of brutal murder with graduated payments for the more and 296 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: worse mayhem that these terrorists reck. So the Force family 297 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: has my commitment, has all of our commitments that we're 298 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna do everything in our power to make this bill 299 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: into a law, to commemorate Taylor's memory, to ensure it 300 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: is sacrifice, it's not forgotten, and that it has a 301 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: lasting part the positive legacy in the world. Alright twenty 302 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: four now till the top of the our very emotional 303 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Now he serves on the 304 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Armed Services and Intelligence Committees. He served in Iraq himself 305 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the first airborne and in Afghanistan with the Provincial Reconstruction 306 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Team and also joining US as Stewart Force. Now. Stewart's son, 307 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Taylor was a former US Army officer West Point graduate. 308 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: He was part of Vanderbilt University their tour group that 309 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: was visiting Israel I. Talked about this with Prime Minister 310 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Netan Yahoo. Last week he was brutally stabbed and killed 311 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: by a Palestinian terrorist. The Palestine is Palestinian Authority leader 312 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: Mahmud A Bass and their FATA faction praised the terrorists 313 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: as a heroic martyr. By the way, Donald Trump is 314 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: meeting with this guy on May three, and the Palestinian 315 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: authority has never condemned the attack a terrorist attack. Now 316 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: what I got into with the Prime Minister of Israel 317 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: is the fact that the US government gives about seven 318 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to the Palestinian Authority, and of 319 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: that seven million, they spend about three hundred million dollars 320 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: according to the Palestinian Authorities online budget. They shell out 321 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: the same amount or that amount of money three million 322 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: dollars a year to the families of jihadas they build 323 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: in their town squares literally so called works of art 324 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: for the people that kill either Israelis or Americans. Now, 325 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: the Tailor Force Act would cut off funding to the 326 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: Palestinian Authority if they continue this policy. It is now 327 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the stated law of paying money monetary rewards to terrorists 328 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and their surviving family members. Anyway, Senator Tom Cotton is 329 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: back with us from Arkansas. UH Stuart Forces with us. 330 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: It was his son Taylor who this legislation is designed 331 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: and and to honor welcome both of you to the program. 332 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Shahn and I've had I appreciate so much 333 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: of you having me on. It's it's a great honor 334 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: to speak with you. I spoke at Lank with the 335 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Israel about this very issue in light 336 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: of the the leader of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmudu bass Is, 337 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: meeting with President Trump on a three um and the 338 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Israel was adamant that if there's any 339 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: chance of peace, one, there's got to be a recognition 340 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: of Israel's right to exist. Number two, stop paying monetary 341 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: rewards to terrorists and they're surviving family members. Doesn't that 342 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: have to be a fundamental, basic starting point, I would 343 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: I would think so, Sean. I can't imagine negotiating with 344 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: anybody about anything knowing that they have law laws that 345 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: provide for killing your citizens. I cannot. I cannot believe 346 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: that you could start with that in effect. I think 347 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: it's just when all the facts came out to us 348 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: after after we lost Taylor, and I heard and read 349 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: what was going on, I was appalled that that is 350 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: going on in this day and age, the contract killing 351 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: with an open, open ended contract, I could not I 352 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: could not understand it. And it is it's just, but 353 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you know why, because it's not comprehensible, because there's no 354 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: sense behind this that American money is going to a 355 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: group that kills Americans and Israelis and they're rewarding the 356 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: terrorists and their families, because you know that is insanity 357 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: by definition, and it's got to end. By the way, 358 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty certain, I know pretty it's President Trump pretty well. 359 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: I think once he gets made aware of the magnitude 360 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: of this, I think he's gonna say no more money 361 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: until you stopped us. I think that it would be 362 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: a first good step. And um um. From everyone I've 363 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: had the operative opportunity to speak with, I I agree 364 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: that they are more and more aware of how ludicrous 365 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: the whole situation is and how you can't go forward 366 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: with that in place. It's it's I hate that we're 367 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: that My wife and I and daughter have have spoken 368 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: to so many people that have been so concerned. We 369 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: never in our lives imagine they didn't like anything would 370 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: this happen to anyone in our family. But uh, we agree, 371 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: it has. It has to stop. It just cannot continue. 372 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: And it's not it's not a partisan issue. I help 373 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: people and whether they're Democrat, Liberal, independent, Republican, just the situation. 374 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a part of your belief it's 375 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: just not not right. It's not right. Hey, Sean, this 376 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: is Tom Cotton. I add um. It's good to be 377 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: all with you as always, but it's just an especial 378 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: honor to be on you with Stewart. Mr. Forst is 379 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: good to hear your voice. Senator Cotton, I appreciate what 380 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: you're doing for this so much. I can't tell you yes, 381 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: um and and Sean, your your instinct is right, because 382 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: I've seen this repeatedly male both in Congress UH and 383 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: with our Kansans UH. Decent people cannot imagine that the 384 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: facts at hand. They cannot imagine that we give the 385 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: Palestinian Authority hundreds of millions of dollars and the Palestinian 386 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: Authority gives what's essentially bonus payments to the families of 387 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: terrorists who commit the kind of famous crime that happened 388 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: to Tailor Force. When you bring that to them, sometimes 389 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you have to actually show them the laws. Show them 390 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: the Palestinian laws, show them the budgetary accounts, which are 391 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: freely available in the open source domain, to get them 392 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: to realize that this is in fact true, that this 393 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: is not a myth. Um And I forem of confident 394 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: once the President understands and appreciates what's happening with your 395 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: tax dollars, that we can put an end to this UH, 396 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: and that we can pass the Tailor Force Act through 397 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: the Congress for his signature. Sean, I'm so happy that 398 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: you raise this with Prime Minister net Yahoo, and I'm 399 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: so grateful that Prime Minister net Yahoo spoke forcefully about 400 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: the need to end Did you see us talking about this? 401 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: Did you see the quotes of a boss that he 402 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: uses when he's at home versus what I know he'll 403 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: probably lie to and tell the President Sean, it's so 404 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: important that Prime Minister net Yahoo weighed in on this 405 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: matter that we have to stop what are essentially bounty 406 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: payments to the families of dead terrorists UM, and his 407 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: support removes one of the very last objections that anyone 408 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: in the United States could have because of the Prime 409 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Minister supports this legislation and this effort UH to try 410 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: to stop US tax payer dollars from going to the 411 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: families of dead Palestinian terrorists. I can't imagine any Senator 412 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: congressman voting against our legislation. So I'm encouraging the President 413 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: to raise this matter with President of Boss during their 414 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: meeting next week and say very simply to him, Look, 415 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: if you don't stop this practice, you will no longer 416 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: receive this money. We're not asking them for some high 417 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: in the sky um, you know, lion lion laying down 418 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: with the Lamb scenario. We're not asking them try to 419 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: eliminate all anti Semitic links from their society. We're asking 420 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: them to do something within their control. Stop taking our 421 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: money and giving it to the families of dead terrorists. 422 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: If you want to keep our money. Have you gotten 423 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: any Democratic support, Senator, A lot of Democrats have been supportive, 424 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: uh um, but quietly. One reason why we couldn't pass 425 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: this legislation in previous years is that the Obama administration 426 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: plainly did not support it, did not want it coming 427 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: to the floor, UM, and Democratic senators did not want 428 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: to vote on it. But with President Trump in the 429 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: White House, who I believe will support the legislation, UM, 430 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: with the endorsement of Prime Minister net Yahoo, I think 431 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: it's a horse of a different color, and I suspect 432 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: that we will be able to pass this. About Chuck Schumer, 433 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: if you haven't talked to Chuck Schumer about it, I 434 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: haven't personally talking about it, but you know, Senator Schumer 435 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: likes to prevent his uh caucus from having to take 436 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: votes on things that might be tough for them. Um. 437 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: It's again, it's hard for me to imagine anybody seeing 438 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: this is tough. But ultimately Mitch McConnell that schedules the 439 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: floor and Senator McConnell can bring this to the floor 440 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: with the President support. Now, with the endorsement of the 441 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Prime Minister as well, I think you'd see a large 442 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: and by Parson vote if we have a vote on 443 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: the floor. Um. Let me ask you this, Um, do 444 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: do they have confirmed themselves that this is actual law 445 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: under the Palestinian authority? Correct? They must pay the families 446 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: of terrorists and terrorists that survived. It's in black and white, 447 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: it's Palestinian authority and law and Um. The more heinous 448 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: the attack and crime, the bloodier it is, the more 449 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: money the families were safe. It is a straight incentive 450 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: for terrorists to kill innocent civilians like Taylor Force to 451 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: try to make sure their family is cared for. Yeah, 452 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: Mr Mr Force, Stewart Force, tell us about your son Taylor. 453 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, your program is not long enough, Sean for 454 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: me to tell you all about Taylor. I believe it. 455 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I believe it were it. We were just very fortunate 456 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: that we have we have two good kids. And he 457 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: at an early age decided that UH, West Point would 458 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: be a goal. You went to uh the Mexico Military 459 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Institute in Roswell, where people like Roger Staubach had had 460 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: gone to school and in their efforts to obtain appointments 461 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: to the various service academies. And it was a good 462 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: academic and pre military background. And he enjoyed well, I 463 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: guess you'd have to say mostly endured his his four 464 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: years at West Point, because it's quite a grueling regiment 465 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: that they go through. But um is my father. His 466 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: grandfather had had graduated in forty seven, and so he 467 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: had an ideal and an idea of what to expect, 468 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: and he was excited. And when he graduated, he went 469 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: to Field Artillery and to serve the two tiers tours 470 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: UH a year in Iraq and nine months in Afghanistan, 471 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: and UH, you know he I would want to mention 472 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: one thing. I know people have a tendency to use 473 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: the word hero and Taylor was very a very modest 474 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: and humble person even though he achieved a lot. But 475 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: I want he always cringed when somebody would call him 476 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: a hero. Well, he felt the real heroes were those 477 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: that were wounded or gave their lives. Yeah, but he 478 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: was willing to risk his so he fits in that category. 479 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: It's the same thing to me in many way, it's 480 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: not the same thing. I mean, anybody that's willing to 481 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: risk it, that is a level of heroism and courage. 482 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: He viewed himself as a patriot more than more than 483 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: a hero, Sean, but it was it was something he 484 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: felt very strongly about being there for his his men, 485 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: and it honestly wasn't about him. And it's just a 486 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: tragedy that situations like this happened. It takes so many, 487 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: so many promising young people, not only Americans, but but 488 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Israelis and other visitors to Israel in a in a 489 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: situation like this, it's just it's just it's a shame, 490 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: and we're incredulous about the whole. Yeah. Well, first I 491 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: just want to say, on behalf of so many people, 492 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry Mr Force for your loss your son Taylor, 493 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: and I truly you know, send a sympathy of a 494 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: very sympathetic audience here and we want to wash you 495 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and your family the very very best and so sorry 496 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: you have to go through this in Senator Cotton, thank 497 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: you for what you're doing on this, and I know 498 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: you're fighting the good fight every day. Is is that 499 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: health care bill in the House going to work through 500 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: the Senate and get done? You think, Sean. Over the 501 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: last few weeks, I've decided not to hazard guess is 502 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: about what's going to happen on the floor of the House. 503 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: But whatever happens, I want to make sure that we 504 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: pass legislation that repeals Obamacare and provides all Americans with 505 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: affordable and quality insurance, no exceptions and no excuses. Do 506 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: you like the changes that the Freedom Call Becers was 507 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: able to get. I haven't seen the text, but from 508 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the reports I've saying, and that my conversations with some 509 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: of my friends there, they're moving in the right direction. Obviously, 510 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: the Senate will We'll pick up any bill that comes 511 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: here and put our own stamp on it. But the 512 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: ultimate goal that we share with those in the House 513 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: is making sure that insurance is affordable for everyone, no 514 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: matter how you get your insurance. You know, Mr Force, 515 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. You're in 516 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers. Your son was indeed to hear, 517 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, bless you in your family. I know how 518 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: hard that must be for you every day. This insanity 519 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: of paying money to the Palestinian authority so they can 520 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: shell it out to the families and Jihadis and their 521 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: survivors is insanity. And I'm I'm gonna make sure in 522 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: the next interview with President Trump that I asked him 523 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: about this. Thank you so much for being with us. 524 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: But as we continue final moments here with Sarah Carter, 525 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: senior National security correspondent for CIRCU dot com, retired Air 526 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Force Captain Joani Marquez, Karen Vaughan. She lost her son, 527 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: Aaron and Navy seal. This was in this important Extortion 528 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: seventeen case, where in fact that we had Americans engaged 529 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: with eight Taliban that were heavily armed and two of 530 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: them ended up surviving, and while they had an opportunity 531 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: to engage and kill those two combatants, permission was denied. 532 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: As a result, thirty Americans, including seventeen Navy Seals, were killed. Joanie, 533 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Captain Marquees, this this was all preventable. You 534 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: there's no doubt in your mind. You had these two 535 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: fighters in sight, and you could have killed at those 536 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: engaging Americans and killing Americans. Absolutely, and that's what's so 537 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: disgusting about all of it. You know, I've been living 538 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: with this health for about six years in my life now, 539 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and um, I also would like to set the recordstrate 540 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: on something. I apologize Sarah again for not being clear 541 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: on this because of nerves or whatnot from two months ago. 542 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: But the actual enemy that took out the helicopter wasn't 543 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't co located with the twelve men that that 544 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: force gained up to be. They were probably another mile 545 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: a mile and a half away in some other building, 546 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: so the two weren't even related in that regard. Goodness. 547 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: I apologize for making myself clear on that. No, no, no, 548 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: you you offered no apologies. You you were doing your 549 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: job and and you were you were doing everything possible 550 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: to keep our guys safe. And had you been able 551 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: to do your job without these ridiculous rules of engagement, 552 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Karen's Vaughan's son Aaron would be alive today and and Karen, 553 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: if it was me, I'd be apoplectic every hour of 554 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: every day. I never get over this, you know, Sean. 555 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: It's something I really have to monitor and control in 556 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: myself not to be angry. What I want now, the 557 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: productive thing to feel now is a desire for accountability, 558 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: because only through that can we can we receive the 559 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: change that we need to make sure another American son 560 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: or daughter does not die to these reckless, criminal rules 561 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: of engagement. And and that's the goal here. There's nothing 562 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I can do to bring Aaron back. I do want 563 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: accountability for the people who made the decisions that night, 564 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: Janie when she when you hear more of her story, 565 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: you will be even more stunned at what's about to 566 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: come out, because that was just the first thing that 567 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: went wrong that night, Seawan, and it just kept getting 568 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: worse from there. And you know I hadn't. I had 569 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: an admiral turnaround to the grieving parents. It's a debriefing, 570 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: and one of the dads asked, why didn't we just 571 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: use a drone strike on the guides that the seals 572 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: were coming in to interdict that night, And and Admiral 573 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: Harward turned around and put his hand on my knee, 574 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I was sitting right behind, and he said, because we 575 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: want to win the Afghan's hearts and minds, and so basically, 576 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: what if I was strong as if I was as 577 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: strong as I am today on that day, I probably 578 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: would have punched the guy on the face because he's 579 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: looking as parents and wives sitting there grieving unimaginably over 580 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the deaths of their sons and their husbands. And that's 581 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: his thing is we cared more about the Afghans than 582 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: we cared about your loved one's life. And that's exactly 583 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: what's going on, and it has to stop. Sara, I'm 584 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna give you the last word here because we're running 585 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: out of the the time. Well, I think the next step, Sean, 586 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: is really going to be whether or not the Trump 587 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: administration is going to take a good look at this 588 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: and say, you know, what do we need to do 589 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: to ensure that this never happens again, not on their watch, 590 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: and that they can put into action rules of engagement 591 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: that are reasonable, that don't tie the hands of our troops, 592 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: our airmen, uh and that and that save lives instead 593 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: of hate lives. And I think that is going to 594 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: be the most important thing to come out of this. 595 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Janie's bravery, Hereen's bravery, the bravery of all the families 596 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: that have spoken up, and the loss that dy've endured 597 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: is something that we all as Americans have to remember 598 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: and not be afraid to seek the truth and find 599 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: it and not be afraid to tell it. Can I 600 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: have one final word, Shan, you really quick care were 601 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: out of time. However parent feels let him fight or 602 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: bring him home, Sewan, let him fight or bring them home? 603 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I agree wholeheartedly. We're not gonna fight, bring him home. 604 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I agree. Thank you, Sarah Carter, Thank you Karen Vaughn. 605 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: You're in our prayers, and many many thanks Captain Johnny 606 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: Marquez for your courage and speaking out so we can 607 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: prevent this ever from happening again.