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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gray. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the sixth of August. Thank you for being here. Let's

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Speaker 1: get it Today's top trick. As always, thank you for

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Speaker 1: Attorney General Pam Bondi has opened a grandeury investigation to

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Speaker 1: the Russian collusion hoaks and Obama and his Democrat goons

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Speaker 1: Process of that grand jury investigation, how it works, step

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Speaker 1: announced plans to introduce legislation to overhaul the role of

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Speaker 1: news for Americans looking to be homeowners. I'll bring on

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Speaker 1: an expert to discuss that then later. As the cost

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Speaker 1: tuition for undocumented students. Yes, our forty seventh President's putting

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Speaker 1: any other way. All those updates and more coming. But

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Speaker 1: want to mention briefly the shooting at Fort Stewart, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: incident coming up at three thirty this afternoon, So if

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Speaker 2: Will keep you updated. Of course, we start here.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat Party is on the verge of being hijacked

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Speaker 1: by democratic socialism.

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Speaker 2: And that is, if it hasn't been already.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the cook Bernie Sanders began removing the left's

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Speaker 1: ability to think and reason during the twenty sixteen presidential election,

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't sowed down since. It's just gotten noticeably worse.

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Speaker 1: What we're watching is the left experimenting with communism on

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Speaker 1: sound the alarm.

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Speaker 2: The Democratic Socialists of America.

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Speaker 1: The party has gone from about six thousand radicals in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to eighty thousand or more this year thanks

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Speaker 1: to the likes of Bernie AOC, pro Palestine propaganda and

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Speaker 1: most recently Zurn Mamdani's campaign in New York City. Mamdannie

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Speaker 1: scored half a million votes in New York City during

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Speaker 1: the Bayerreh primary. He crushed Andrew Cromo, the former governor

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Speaker 1: really underscored a big problem for Democrats, and that is

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Speaker 1: this the radicals are clearly in charge. Many refrained from

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Speaker 1: endorsing the card carrying Socialists slash Communists before the primary.

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Speaker 1: Big time donors back to Andrew Cuomo. Democrat leaders Hakeem

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Speaker 2: Your Democrats like Governor Cathy.

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Speaker 1: Hokeel, Representative Dan Goldman, and Tom Swallasey expressed their concerns

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Speaker 1: over Mam Danny's radical stances. But now that he's won, well,

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Speaker 1: if it means getting their party out of the dumps.

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Speaker 1: Of course it doesn't. I think it just lights another

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Speaker 1: dumpster fire for the left. We'll see. Senator Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: is excited about them Danny's chances and being the future

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Speaker 1: she is as well. Listen up, aggressive sociation. Is this

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Speaker 1: what the party should look like?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you bet.

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Speaker 6: The Democratic Party needs to stand up and be clear.

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Speaker 6: We are the party that fights for affordability for working families.

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Speaker 6: That means childcare, that means housing, it means healthcare, It

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Speaker 6: get a little excited about this, all right, She.

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Speaker 1: Told reporter she's excited for them Danny to experiment experiment

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Speaker 1: with things like city funded grocery stores, another communist utopia

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Speaker 1: pipe dreams. But these experiments have all been tried before,

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Speaker 1: always the same epic failure. How do I know, Well,

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Speaker 1: here's a look at a government run grocery store in

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Speaker 2: It's exactly what you would expect. Watch.

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Speaker 7: It's clear that Sunfresh at thirty first in Prospect is struggling.

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Speaker 7: This is the first section people see when they come in.

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Speaker 7: Around the store look the same way empty. So shoppers

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Speaker 7: have been asking us if the store isn't closing, then

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Speaker 7: where's all the food. A riden smell comes through the door,

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Speaker 7: and anywhere you turn you'll see products that need to

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Speaker 1: I'll watch people walk in and walk out.

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Speaker 8: The grocery store has received financial assistance from the city,

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Speaker 8: but has been unable to keep those shelves stocked in

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Speaker 8: an area that in the past has often been referred

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Speaker 1: A good thing don't last too long, and.

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Speaker 4: It will impact a lot of people, a lot of families.

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Speaker 7: The city owns the Loomwood shopping center. A nonprofit operates

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Speaker 1: Nobody operates that. Grocery stores run by the government. Empty shells,

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Speaker 1: pipe dreams, up and smoke. Look at Venezuela, folks. Socialism

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Speaker 1: turn a very rich country there into an impoverished nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Chavez Maduro nationalized everything, promised a lot of free stuff.

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Speaker 1: What do they deliver? Breadlines and starvation. Seven million people fled.

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Speaker 1: Some even resorted to eating the zoo animals. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a little in bad taste, but they had to

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Speaker 1: just to survive. The Soviet Union tried socialism for what

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Speaker 1: seventy years? State run everything, no free markets, no freedom.

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Speaker 1: The result empty shells like you saw in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and starving people and a collapsed empire. Nikhil Gorbachev gave

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Speaker 1: up because it was a disaster of epic proportions. Mauzi

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Speaker 1: Dung's China went all in on socialism, collectivized farms, state

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Speaker 1: run factories. The result fifty million people died in the

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Speaker 1: Great Leap four to nineteen fifty nine and sixty alone

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Speaker 1: millions more died in the cultural Revolution. You see, death

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Speaker 1: is always the handmaiden of socialists and communists. Such movements

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Speaker 1: are also the death of individual freedom every single time.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens when socialists.

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Speaker 1: Run the show. We don't need experimentation in New York

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Speaker 1: City to prove it. It will be the death of

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Speaker 1: the Big Apple and maybe America too, if it's allowed

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Speaker 1: built on hard work, personal responsibility, and the feed to

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Speaker 1: chase your dreams. Your dreams. Democratic socialism wants to replace

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Speaker 1: that with government handouts, blow to bureaucracies, and control over

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Speaker 1: every aspect of your life, including those dreams. They're talking

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Speaker 1: about Medicare for all, free college, and wealth taxes. Of course,

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Speaker 1: sounds nice until you realize it's your paycheck, your paycheck

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Speaker 1: that they're actually coming for. CNBC actually wrecked Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: on this idea that all we need is to have

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Speaker 1: thriving society is to tax the rich even more. Here

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Speaker 9: This idea of somehow raising taxes on the wealthiest New Yorkers, who,

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Speaker 9: by the way, I would point out, pay roughly fifteen

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Speaker 9: percent of their income right now between city and state.

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Speaker 9: Raising taxes on them will simply drive them away. Shouldn't

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Speaker 9: the focus of a mayor be on delivering services to

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Speaker 9: the constituents of the city and doing that by raising

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Speaker 9: the most revenue as possible without chasing businesses and the

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Speaker 9: high income taxpayers out of the city. Because they can

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Speaker 9: go to Austin, they can go to Dallas, they can

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Speaker 9: go to Atlanta, they can.

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Speaker 3: Go to Nashville.

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Speaker 9: This is your issue. It's a national issue, not a

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Speaker 6: The issue is affordability. Do you know how many working

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Speaker 6: families are chased out of New York City every day

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Speaker 6: because they can't afford housing, they can't afford groceries, they

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Speaker 6: can't afford childcare. What Zoron is saying is I want

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Speaker 6: people to be able to afford to live in New

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Speaker 6: York City. That's what keeps a vibrant city. That's what

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Speaker 9: Nobody disagrees with that, Senator, But raising taxes in order

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Speaker 9: to do it, Why is that the answer?

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Speaker 6: Oh dear, are you worried that billionaires are going to

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Speaker 9: No, I'm worried that they're going to leave and spend

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Speaker 6: You know, they've threatened to do that over and over,

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Speaker 6: and they have.

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Speaker 1: They've left. Here's the thing and Goldman Sachs.

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Speaker 9: When they create new jobs, they do it in Dallas.

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Speaker 9: Blackstone won't build a new headquarter.

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Speaker 10: You'll go on and on.

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Speaker 1: She is in over her head and she's willing to

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Speaker 1: drag us all under Paul after poll show's Americans don't

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Speaker 1: want socialism. A twenty twenty three Gallipol found that sixty

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Speaker 1: five percent of Americans prefer a free market system over

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Speaker 1: government control. Thank god. Yet the Democrats keep pushing this

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Speaker 1: radical agenda as if anybody wants it, go to any

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Speaker 2: Ohio, Texas, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's waiving communist flags and demanding a government takeover of

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Speaker 1: their lives. But Mam Donnie and Warren have found this brainwashed,

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Speaker 1: young block of voters who don't understand that socialism will

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Speaker 1: not bring about affordability, but will certainly deliver misery in spades.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's Inflation Reduction Act to the democrats ninety trillion

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Speaker 1: dollar Green New Deal perfect examples of just the tip

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Speaker 2: Rather go a lot farther and.

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Speaker 1: Fellow Democratic Socialists. Minneapolis mayoral candidate Omar Fata says it's

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Speaker 1: time for the Democrat Party to make its choice on

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Speaker 11: Zara's win was not only making huge rives in New York,

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Speaker 11: but here in Minneapolis and.

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Speaker 3: Across the country.

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Speaker 11: I think it's important for the Democratic Party going forward

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Speaker 11: to make a decision on what kind of party it

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Speaker 11: wants to be, not only in our local mayor elections

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Speaker 11: that we're seeing, but in the midterms and beyond what

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Speaker 11: we're seeing in our local elections nationally, is that this

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Speaker 11: is the type of catalyst moment that we need right

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Speaker 11: now to bolster not just democratic organizing but participation across

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Speaker 11: the country, especially when Republicans made huge stride to last

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Speaker 11: election in gaining the trifecta the presidency as well as

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Speaker 11: both chambers of Congress.

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Speaker 1: It's frightening, isn't it. Fata also takes great pride in

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Speaker 1: his Somalian roots, failing to mention that Somalia self collapsed

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Speaker 1: under the socialism in the last century. Keeping the perfect record,

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Speaker 1: socialism fails one hundred percent of the time. Industries like banking, agriculture,

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Speaker 1: and trade war all nationalized. Food distribution was controlled by

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Speaker 1: the state. Land was seized, all under the guys who

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Speaker 1: are promising to uplift the marginalized.

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Speaker 2: It's always the marginalized.

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Speaker 1: The result, well, GDP tanked, a massive family, broke out,

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Speaker 1: people starved to death, and then the socialist leader siphon

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Speaker 1: off billions of dollars for his loyalists, allies and pet projects.

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Speaker 1: He got rich, because that's what socialist tyrants do. It's

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Speaker 1: The policies are wrong to the city. Now there are

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Speaker 12: We're going to do all of the like Fox News

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Speaker 1: None of it was true.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing short than the undermining of America.

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Speaker 1: Her people, and of course the forty fifth and now

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Speaker 1: since gabert announcement, I've been calling for a grand jury investigation.

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Speaker 2: No tiptoeing around on a case. It'll take years. We

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Speaker 1: As we discussed yesterday on the program, Attorney General Pam

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Speaker 1: A senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation, Hans van Bokowski, Hans,

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Speaker 1: nice to see you here again today. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 1: As fast as many of us would like to see

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Speaker 1: at the latest. That's not really how these things work.

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Speaker 1: It's a process. The legal system is always a process,

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Speaker 14: Well, the most import for things. The thing for people

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Speaker 3: They will then.

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Speaker 3: That can be brought? And can they issue an indictment?

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Speaker 2: That would be far too late.

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Speaker 1: This needs to happen on a much shorter timetable in

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Speaker 14: Well, I actually think your guess is a good one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the old saying Hans is and a grand jury

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Speaker 1: to bail out these failed government entities? I mean, they

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Speaker 1: just they're perpetual failures. They don't work. Why should we

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Speaker 1: not trust the private sector to take care of this?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we have to, and we have to gradually transition

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Speaker 13: and wean these giants off of government and taxpayer money.

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Speaker 13: Here's the biggest problem. Fanny and Freddy were supposedly never

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Speaker 13: to have an implicit taxpayer guarantee to keep them afloat

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Speaker 13: if they made bad financial decisions. We were ridiculed when

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Speaker 13: our organization testified before Congress to the fact in two

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Speaker 13: thousand that these two mortgage backing giants were in big trouble,

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Speaker 13: and they said, well, there's no taxpayer guarantee, so don't

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Speaker 13: worry about it, it'll never happen. Well, eight years later

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Speaker 13: it did happen. Taxpayers shelled out upwards of two hundred

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Speaker 13: billion dollars of treasury backing to get these two entities

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Speaker 13: back afloat. The conservatorship that they have been in since

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Speaker 13: that time is a perse string, an apron string to

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Speaker 13: the federal government and taxpayers that we don't need. We've

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Speaker 13: got to find a way to transition these entities back

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Speaker 13: into private sector hands.

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Speaker 1: And how would that happen? Pete? How would you transition

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Speaker 1: these I mean, look, they're monoliths. These are giant, giant

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Speaker 1: operations that are inefficient, wasteful of our money. I mean

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Speaker 1: those could go in there and have a field day,

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Speaker 1: several field days. People, we all know that they're financially wrecked.

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Speaker 1: How would you get there? How would you transition out?

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Speaker 13: I think what we have to do first is have

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Speaker 13: the Treasury start to shed itself of these preferred stock agreements. Gradually,

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Speaker 13: it's going to have to be so that private shareholders

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Speaker 13: can start taking over. In the meantime, we have to

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Speaker 13: have stricter capital requirements, more so than banks have right now,

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Speaker 13: because Fanny and Freddy are bigger than any bank in

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Speaker 13: the United States. We also have to have more private

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Speaker 13: insurance called risk transfer, so that the first dollars that

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Speaker 13: are put into any to shore up Fanny and Freddy

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Speaker 13: come from that insurance in the private sector rather than

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Speaker 13: the public sector, meaning US. That's a start, but there's

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Speaker 13: going to have to be a lot more worked out.

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Speaker 1: Peter, I greatly appreciate that I had to leave it

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Speaker 1: there for today. We're going to jump here to Fort Stewart,

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Speaker 1: the United States Military giving a briefing. Now. The suspect

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Speaker 1: of today's shooting has been identified as Cornelius Radford, a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight year old sergeant.

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Speaker 16: Let's go to the briefing, medical personnel, and our partners

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Speaker 16: from local, state, and federal law enforcement and emergency services

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Speaker 16: for their quick response and support. I would also like

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Speaker 16: to thank the brave soldiers who immediately intervened and.

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Speaker 15: Subdued the shooter.

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Speaker 16: These soldiers, without a doubt, prevented further casualties. Our wounded

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Speaker 16: soldiers were initially evacuated to win Army Community Hospital right

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Speaker 16: here on Fort Stewart. All arrived in stable condition, and

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Speaker 16: three of the five required surgical intervention. Two have been

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Speaker 16: transported to Memorial Hospital in Savannah, Georgia for additional care.

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Speaker 16: We have identified the alleged shooter as Sergeant Cornelius Radford,

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Speaker 16: an automated logistics sergeant assigned to Second Brigade Combat Team.

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Speaker 16: Sergeant Radford has not previously deployed to combat. Sergeant Radford

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Speaker 16: has been interviewed by the Army Criminal Investigation Division and

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Speaker 16: is currently in pre trial confinement awaiting a charging decision.

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Speaker 15: By the Office of the Special Trial Council.

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Speaker 16: Right now, our primary focus is first on caring for

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Speaker 16: our injured soldiers and their families and also supporting the

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Speaker 16: soldiers of the Spartan Brigade. All of the families of

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Speaker 16: the victims have been notified and we're wrapping our arms

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Speaker 16: around them and ensuring we provide them all the support

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Speaker 16: that we can. Before I take questions, I want to

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Speaker 16: remind you that this is an ongoing investigation and we're

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Speaker 16: still gathering questions, and ladies and gentlemen, I'll now take

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Speaker 16: your questions.

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Speaker 3: Can you give us what you united with the.

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Speaker 15: Sign and how long he starts in the army.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, he is assigned to one of our sustainment units

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Speaker 16: here in second Brigade Combat.

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Speaker 15: Team at Fort Stewart.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 16: And I will have to confirm how long he served

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Speaker 16: with us, Yes, sir, rest bind him.

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Speaker 13: With the associated press as best you can.

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Speaker 15: Knowing it's so early, can you walk us through where.

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Speaker 16: This happened, what happened in the shooting, and we're the

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Speaker 16: victims subordinates of the sergeants or were they people over

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Speaker 16: him and r Yeah, right, right now. It's premature and

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Speaker 16: we're gathering a lot of the information. What we know

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Speaker 16: is this soldier, the shooting occurred at the soldier's place

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Speaker 16: of work.

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Speaker 15: It did involve his co workers.

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Speaker 16: We're still not certain about the motivations, but again, he's

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Speaker 16: been interviewed by Army investigators and we believe we'll gain

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Speaker 16: more information here shortly.

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Speaker 15: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 5: Training exercise.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 16: We don't have any reason to believe it had anything

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Speaker 16: to do with it with a training event. Other than that,

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Speaker 16: I can't I can't state the motivations for the soldier.

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Speaker 12: Maybe arrested for.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, at this point, I can't confirm where he's from.

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Speaker 16: We can follow up on that. I do believe he

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Speaker 16: was arrested locally for a d UI that was unknown

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Speaker 16: to his chain of command until the event occurred and

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Speaker 16: we and we started looking into the law enforcement databases. Yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 16: I can con I can confirm it was not a military.

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Speaker 15: Weapon and we believe it was a personal handgun, yes, sir.

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Speaker 16: For yeah, I'm very confident in the security of this installation.

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Speaker 16: We've got a great partnership with local law enforcement. As

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Speaker 16: you can see here at our gates, we have armed guards.

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Speaker 15: In protective equipment. This one's a bit difficult.

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Speaker 16: And we're gonna have to determine how he was able

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Speaker 16: to get a handgun to his place of place of duty.

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Speaker 7: At least he always for Jackson has to suspect any

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Speaker 7: prior gives us an area or behavioral issues.

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Speaker 16: No, man, I'm not that we're aware of, but again

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Speaker 16: it's it's early in the investigation, but not that I'm

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Speaker 16: currently aware.

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Speaker 5: Of your witness.

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Speaker 15: I don't have the.

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Speaker 16: Details on that, but I know that his soldiers in

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Speaker 16: the area that witnessed the shooting immediately and without hesitation

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Speaker 16: tackled the soldiers, subdued him that allowed law enforcement to

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Speaker 16: then take him into custody.

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Speaker 15: Can wait that time for one more question.

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Speaker 1: That you can't speak to the motivation. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if this turned out to be situation where somebody had experience,

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Speaker 1: please or maybe five Spot is a terrorist attack, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how does that change the basis?

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Speaker 12: Respond to the Bass investigation.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, currently we have no reason to believe any of

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Speaker 15: that is the case.

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Speaker 16: However, we continually continuously assess the threat environment, both in

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Speaker 16: the immediate area and across our army and d OD installations, and.

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Speaker 15: We will address the threat level accordingly.

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Speaker 10: We have the rank.

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Speaker 15: Yes, sir, he was a sergeant.

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Speaker 16: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your questions, and again

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Speaker 16: thanks to the local responders and the local community for

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Speaker 16: their help.

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Speaker 15: Thanks and have a great afternoon.

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Speaker 11: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Sir.

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Speaker 15: Hey, I'm going to give you the proper spelling.

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Speaker 1: All right, Just bringing up to speed on what we

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Speaker 1: know at this point from Fort Stewart. Cornelius Radford is

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Speaker 1: the suspect identified a twenty eight year old sergeant we

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Speaker 1: believe using a personal handgun. He opened fire there before

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Speaker 1: noon today was taken into Cussy shortly thereafter. Five people,

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Speaker 1: five soldiers, are being treated.

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Speaker 2: We do not know the extent of their injuries. We'll

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Speaker 2: have more as we learn it here, let's move on now.

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Speaker 1: The prospect of college is a serious consideration for many

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Speaker 1: potential students in their families, not just for deciding what

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Speaker 1: major to pursue, but also due to the cost. It's expensive. Well,

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Speaker 1: many American households actively way out the cost associated with

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Speaker 1: going to college. Undocumented students seem to get a a

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Speaker 1: better deal do the left leading states offering subsidized or

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Speaker 1: reduced costs under the American Taxpayer Bill. That's right, you

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Speaker 1: get to pay for it.

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Speaker 2: President Trump has made efforts to address this.

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Speaker 1: And put Americans first, but there are still too many

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Speaker 1: people getting a free ride to our schools. Here talking

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Speaker 1: about this campus reform Correspondent Emily stur G Emily, nice

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Speaker 1: to see you.

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Speaker 2: Again, brings me back on the show.

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Speaker 1: School for Free. Yeah, glad to have you back. You

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Speaker 1: didn't get a free ride, did you, Emily. You had

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Speaker 1: to pay for your school in Florida, didn't you?

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Speaker 5: Actually?

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Speaker 2: God scholarship?

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Speaker 18: So I did get a free ride, that it was

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Speaker 18: a merit based free ride, and I'm a lawful that

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Speaker 18: SUPD is in here country. But yeah, the Trump administration

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Speaker 18: has launched investigations into three different states for providing in

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Speaker 18: state tuition pricing to those students who are here illegally.

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Speaker 18: Three states, great step, that's Minnesota, Kentucky, and Texas. But

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Speaker 18: we have over twenty states to go. There are over

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Speaker 18: twenty three states that are continuing to provide these in

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Speaker 18: state tuition pricing to illegal immigrant students. But frankly, it

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Speaker 18: doesn't shock me at all because a campus reform, we

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Speaker 18: are constantly reporting the scholarships, the free legal services, the

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Speaker 18: preferential treatment that illegal immigrant students are getting in the

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Speaker 18: higher education system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's remarkable that we give away all of this

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Speaker 1: stuff to people that come here and oftentimes don't even

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Speaker 1: treat our country very well. Do they They come here

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Speaker 1: and say, well, I'm from PICCAPLI. I just saw a

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Speaker 1: member of Congress, some man you might have seen this,

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Speaker 1: said she is proudly Guatemalan before she is an American.

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Speaker 2: She is a member of Congress from Illinois.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this mind blowing or why?

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Speaker 18: That's exactly the type of ideas that college campuses are

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Speaker 18: teaching students. They're teaching those anti American ideas, those anti

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Speaker 18: law enforcement ideas, So it doesn't shock me to hear that.

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Speaker 18: Another thing that the Department of Education is looking into

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Speaker 18: is they're investigating five different universities for providing scholarships specifically

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Speaker 18: to illegal immigrant students. So it's not just the in

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Speaker 18: state tuition. In addition to that, they can apply for

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Speaker 18: additional scholarships. And as a reporter for the Leadership in

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Speaker 18: Student's Campus Reform, I looked into one of the schools.

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Speaker 18: It's the University of Michigan. Steve, I know you're a

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Speaker 18: Michigan ban so this probably won't make you very happy,

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Speaker 18: but the University of Michigan spent over one hundred thousand

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Speaker 18: dollars last year on those scholarships for illegal immigrant students,

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Speaker 18: and the scholarships cover everything from housing to rent, to

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Speaker 18: technology to travel for those students. American students deserve that

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Speaker 18: scholarship money. American students aren't getting those same luxuries, So

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Speaker 18: why are Americans having to foot the bill? Oh for

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Speaker 18: the in state tuition pricing and scholarships.

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Speaker 5: For these for people who are here illegally.

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Speaker 18: This shouldn't be happening, and I'm glad that this administration

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Speaker 18: is taking it seriously.

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Speaker 1: And so am I because the American taxpayer, Emily also

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Speaker 1: deserves better. Emily Sturge always good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks so much for having me there you

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Speaker 2: have it is.

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Speaker 1: The continued divide between President Trump and the Federal Reserve,

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Speaker 1: putting us behind the curve again.

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Speaker 2: Can the Fed take the right action at the right

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Speaker 2: time or are we going to be looking at a

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Speaker 2: potential economic slow down? And what does this mean for

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Speaker 2: your savings? That's a big question. Considered diversifying with gold

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Speaker 2: through Birch Gold Group.

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Speaker 1: For decades, gold has been viewed as a safe haven

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Speaker 1: in times of economic stagnation, global uncertainty, and of course

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Speaker 1: high inflation. Birch Gold makes it incredibly easy for you

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Speaker 1: nice to see you again.

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Speaker 5: Great to see Steve.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me always great, Davy.

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Speaker 1: Just tell us a little bit about tax Network USA,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you so much for having us.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, we specialize in helping individuals, business owners take on

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Speaker 5: You know, whether that's audits, whether you're dealing with.

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Speaker 5: They know how the IRS operates and their tactics, how

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Speaker 17: So truth is, really, you know, these three letter agencies,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what sense I mean, you hear it from all

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Speaker 17: Too many companies will charge hefty fees up front. They'll

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Speaker 17: we approach every single case Steve strategically and personally. We're

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Speaker 5: So that's really the lens that we approach this with.

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Speaker 17: We're on your side, we're not on the IRS's side,

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Speaker 17: and our goal is not just to solve a problem

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Speaker 17: that you may have. It's really just to get your

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Speaker 1: Well. Absolutely so, there's finds some people watching right now

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Speaker 2: Let's help them out.

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Speaker 1: What does a typical client look like.

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Speaker 5: Well, we have a wide range of clients. I don't

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Speaker 17: We take on W two employees, retirees, entrepreneurs, self employed contractors,

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Speaker 17: So really, if you're in the bind with the IRS,

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Speaker 5: Want to make sure that we have room to negotiate

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Speaker 1: The best advice is don't wait. If you've got issues,

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Speaker 1: getting those letters in the mailbox and they're.

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Speaker 2: Not particularly polite, by the way, the irs.

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Speaker 1: Don't wait, my friends. Go to TNUSA dot com slash

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Speaker 1: You can talk to one of the experts that Cameron's

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Speaker 1: been telling us about. Cameron has always thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Steve, have a good one you too.

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Speaker 1: what do I do next. We just gave you the

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Speaker 1: roadmap out of there, and now after the break, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about a new migrant caravan making its way through Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it a bit yesterday. The organizers say

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Speaker 1: they aren't heading for America, but rather Mexico City. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out if that's true. Oscar Blue Ramirez after.

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Speaker 10: The break, speaks in the rest of a man known

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Speaker 10: for leading several migrant caravans taken into custody by Mexico's

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Speaker 10: Attorney General. Another group has begun its journey north. On Monday,

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Speaker 10: roughly three hundred and fifty migrants departed from Tapatula, a

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Speaker 10: city on Mexico's southern border, and are now headed towards

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Speaker 10: Mexico City. According to organizers, this caravan is not attempting

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Speaker 10: to reach the United States. Instead, they aimed to send

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Speaker 10: a message to the Mexican government about a growing crisis

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Speaker 10: at the southern border. While this group insists the United

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Speaker 10: could change if the bottleneck continues. History has shown that

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Speaker 10: when migrants remain stranded, the likelihood of continuing towards the

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Speaker 1: Now, what you just saw there was footage for Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice Border correspondent Oscar.

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Speaker 2: Ramirez, A new migrant caravan is in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: But will it come to the United States or will

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Speaker 1: it stopped short as Mexico actually increased its morter security.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now talk all about that, Oscar Ramirez. Oscar,

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Speaker 1: nice to see you again. Great piece of video and

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Speaker 1: editing there. It looks like it's going to be compelling,

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Speaker 1: to say the least. What is the latest you can

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Speaker 1: tell us? And are you still in Tijuana?

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Speaker 2: Does Steve?

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Speaker 19: Good evening and thank you for the invitation. Is breaking

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Speaker 19: news against Steve and on your program. The Mexican President

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Speaker 19: today on the morning conference confirmed and she was asked

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Speaker 19: multiple caravans. She was asked about this attention, and she responded,

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Speaker 19: he is not an activist. He is accused of human trafficking.

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Speaker 19: There is a pending investigation that has been done for

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Speaker 19: the Mexican President Steve coming out and saying he is

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Speaker 19: not an activist, he has been accused of human trafficking

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Speaker 19: and there is a pendent investigation on him.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's pretty significant obviously, what kind of penalty in

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Speaker 1: Mexico if these charters are proven, if he is convicted,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess a Mexican prison not the nicest

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Speaker 1: place to spend a few years of your life, well, Stave,

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Speaker 1: depending on the accusations.

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Speaker 19: Where we're going for in ten to fifteen years now,

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Speaker 19: if we can, if we can open up more the

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Speaker 19: case of speculating, what can happen? You know, the Mexican

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Speaker 19: authorities that they give enough evidence to the American authorities.

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Speaker 19: You know, there's a possibility that he can get extradited

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Speaker 19: due to the enormous you know, consequences and the statements

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Speaker 19: that he has said. On our last interview he said

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Speaker 19: that he has led more than three hundred to three

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Speaker 19: hundred and fifty thousand migrants on his thirty plus caravans

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Speaker 19: that he has led out of the South Voorter. So

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Speaker 19: it is a really meticulous, a really dangerous case which

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Speaker 19: is detained. And if the Mexican president is saying this,

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Speaker 19: Steve's because they have best evidence to have the accusation.

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Speaker 3: Staff.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Now, let's talk about the border in general. Obviously

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Speaker 1: you're spending time there. Again, you've spent time there over

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Speaker 1: to the American border and pretty much all points in between.

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Speaker 1: And more.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen to the border?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we hear that the border crossings are down

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Speaker 1: ninety four, ninety five, ninety six percent.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole different world than it was just a

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Yes, absolutely, And you know this is done to the

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Speaker 19: most important thing is the way that Trump has negotiated

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Speaker 19: with the Mexican government not only implemented on the American

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Speaker 19: but also pushing the Mexican government to put their National

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Speaker 19: Guard in the open border gaps, and also pushing the

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Speaker 19: Mexican government to decrease the level of migrants walking on

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Speaker 19: side of the border. Today, another caravan three hundred and

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Speaker 19: fifty micro caravan that are called micro caravan. Three hundred

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Speaker 19: is not going to go as further as they can.

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Speaker 19: They're not going to arrive to the Mexico City. They're

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Speaker 19: possibly they're going to be decreased and they're going to

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Speaker 19: this tells you that the Mexican government has complied with

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Speaker 19: the Trump policies and it is a whole different bulgain

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Speaker 19: of what we saw on the four years of Biden,

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Speaker 19: which on Reil America's Voice use we covered more than

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Speaker 19: totll caravan Steve under the Biden administration. It was incredible

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Speaker 19: what it was happening and the enormous arrival of illegal

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Speaker 19: aliens through nonports of entry.

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Speaker 1: Night. Oscar always appreciates your updates. Ben, You're always in

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Speaker 1: the thick of it and we greatly appreciate that as always,

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Speaker 1: my friend, keep safe out there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Stave for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Oscar Ramirez. All right, I've got

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Speaker 1: some breaking news for you here. What makes America wonderful? Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe this does the President of the United States. Brand

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Speaker 1: new news coming out the down Trump plans to meet

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Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin to discuss ending the war with Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: This is from the Wall Street Journal, so that's the

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Speaker 1: source for this breaking news, although it is in other places.

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Speaker 1: President Trump intends to meet soon with Russian President Vladimir Putin,

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Speaker 1: according to a senior administration official just a few moments ago.

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Speaker 1: That's after a Russia made an offer during a trip

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Speaker 1: to Moscow by Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff.

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Speaker 2: That was in the last twenty four hours. Trump is

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Speaker 1: With the Russian counterpart and Ukrainian President Vloidmira Zelinsky as well.

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Speaker 1: It's not clear when and where the meeting would take place.

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Speaker 1: The meeting would be among the most dramatic moments yet

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's second term, as he drives for peace

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Speaker 1: not just in Ukraine, but in Central Africa, between Indian Pakistan,

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Speaker 1: between Thailand and Cambodia. It just goes on and continues.

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Speaker 1: Earlier Wednesday, Trump said on social media Witkof made great

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Speaker 1: progress in his meeting with Putin, so maybe peace is

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Speaker 1: at hand if Donald Trump meets with Vladimir Putting again.

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