Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your
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Speaker 1: Drink up for the would it could be hopeully' would
Speaker 1: see me? It's your boy and what up is d
Speaker 1: J e f N And it's drink Chance. Motherfucker Yapia
Speaker 1: makes up now the sky here has been putting in
Speaker 1: a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous amount of work. I always say
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the credit he deserves, but from the streets,
Speaker 1: he does get the credit he deserves. The streets recognize them.
Speaker 1: They recognized for the brilliance that he's been a part of.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal people's career is like the late, great legendary DMX.
Speaker 1: I believe he created the wave as well. Uh, he
Speaker 1: definitely smokes our these doesn't caught the body with me
Speaker 1: and we threw the body in the drunk uh form
Speaker 1: likes of Cameron to Mace to or whatever, baking a
Speaker 1: lot of music. You know in the nineties when you
Speaker 1: were out that ship meant something. That ship was it was.
Speaker 1: It was an error. And then for him to keep going,
Speaker 1: him to still be here, still be the person that
Speaker 1: he has he is. We are gonna get all in
Speaker 1: his business today. We're gonna ask about anything, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm mean, from the wave to whatever whatever to
Speaker 1: And in case you don't know who we talked about,
Speaker 1: we talked about motherfucking Dame. Now let's take it from
Speaker 1: the beginning, because when we first get at Me Dogs,
Speaker 1: is you produce get at Me Dog? Yeah? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So for the first time we've seen DMX get at
Speaker 1: Me Dog. You described describe that situation, um, but actually
Speaker 1: kind of go back a little bit. Okay, Um, Mary
Speaker 1: had told Puff about the locks. Okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's when the Locks got signed a bad
Speaker 1: boy and me and Mace came from from from Hall
Speaker 1: up to Yonkers because why I kept trying to get
Speaker 1: me with my beats up to Yonkers for the Locks
Speaker 1: of Excellent ship, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: boom they got signed. And then I saw him. He
Speaker 1: was like the young Niggers and bad Boy running around
Speaker 1: and Big was like in the next room. He was
Speaker 1: doing this one to Ductor who you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he like, you know,
Speaker 1: he was, you know, locks just got signed. He's just
Speaker 1: got signed. Dog was running them around like he always said,
Speaker 1: robbing with the dog. You know what I'm saying. That ship.
Speaker 1: So um, we was like we was young and a
Speaker 1: puffers dick in the beach, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So um, we was in there locks to the joint
Speaker 1: with Big with Biggie, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, we're getting close, We're getting close.
Speaker 1: And then um, I think Pocket put Off hit him
Speaker 1: up and we was just fun. It's like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: he was in bad Boy. Studios were saying yeah man,
Speaker 1: Like he was like, damn man, we ain't gonna make it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it was the older Jeeves, you know, and you
Speaker 1: know all the Brooklyn you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: they was all we was like the little niggas like
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. But we actually happened
Speaker 1: to fly out there with them and ship um when
Speaker 1: Big I did get killed, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: CALLI you know, and when we came back, that's when
Speaker 1: we maybe always a love Bi Papa, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We had did the record first and then um,
Speaker 1: we was like, we can't put this out. We don't want,
Speaker 1: you know, for the family think we try to monopolize
Speaker 1: on trash situation. So we gave the record of Pup first,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and it was like that
Speaker 1: we always loved Big Papa Papa. Then Puff heard it
Speaker 1: and ship him and on there was crying. It was like, yo,
Speaker 1: thank you, okay, people do so I love Big That
Speaker 1: was my ready first record. Let's make some choice for
Speaker 1: that because at the time we heard it at Me Dog,
Speaker 1: it was so much of a new sound, so much
Speaker 1: of a new style, right that I thought that that
Speaker 1: was your first record that I've been used before. It's
Speaker 1: used season what I'm saying, Yeah, you know so, um,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, um this record get at Me Dog?
Speaker 1: You produced it. Yes, you noticed as a monster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now because I don't tell you. I knew it was
Speaker 1: crazy because I get the little pre stories with the story. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of its niggers to start of someone to mix
Speaker 1: sape like locks, Mason, Dog, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, we're gonna eat these things. And
Speaker 1: then we attempted to recreate it. Not recreated, but we're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do another post cut. And that was getting
Speaker 1: at me dog. The first version, the first version actually
Speaker 1: had Chic on there. No, the first show was all
Speaker 1: all of them. It was all the locks and X.
Speaker 1: He did a whole another white label. Yeah, she'd we
Speaker 1: put it and put it as a remix. But it's
Speaker 1: a very original version. And I saw eating the clue tapes.
Speaker 1: She was like, we got these that he wanted to
Speaker 1: go do lo Yeah now not right there, right right.
Speaker 1: And then it came see boom. Then EARV got the
Speaker 1: position at death gym boom and herb. It's like yo, leo,
Speaker 1: he got to sign this nigger boom boom boom, and
Speaker 1: the momentum was going so crazy with dogs on four
Speaker 1: three to know it was twenty fours. A little first,
Speaker 1: that was the right live right, and that was eating
Speaker 1: them niggas like, oh my god, he got in the mud.
Speaker 1: He was the only one who got the money right.
Speaker 1: Else stay pretty money. He in the right. He was different.
Speaker 1: So that yeah, so it's like boom we started doing that.
Speaker 1: It was like shoot the momentum, the momentum like yo,
Speaker 1: hit three verses only get at Me Dog beat? All right,
Speaker 1: so we're the same beat and that's to get at
Speaker 1: me Dog. That you know. I'm not gonna lie to you. Um,
Speaker 1: that was my that's my year, best year in my life,
Speaker 1: seven gold. Yeah, best year in my life. All that
Speaker 1: set up that you're saying that was happening. I saw
Speaker 1: none of that. I saw none of that. All I
Speaker 1: saw was what the fund is that get at Me Dog?
Speaker 1: When that ship dropped. And then the fact is, I
Speaker 1: don't know whose idea was was The video was black
Speaker 1: and white, so I think it was definit chairing my hype.
Speaker 1: I was pissed about the video. Listen, listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I got a video bad from TV. I
Speaker 1: hate band from TV video, But it actually does work
Speaker 1: right at least you can see get at Me Dog.
Speaker 1: You can't even see bad from TV you, but I
Speaker 1: learned like like like making it look funke up like that.
Speaker 1: So so when I see the actual video, I said,
Speaker 1: hype Whims did because it's not doing a cheap video,
Speaker 1: it's that it was black and white. So right now,
Speaker 1: I heard you say that earliest you when you see
Speaker 1: the video, you're like fuck yeah. I'm like, you can't
Speaker 1: see me, you can't see nobody. But I get it though.
Speaker 1: Over the years, I'm like, oh, it was the electricity. Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got it. I think the videos would help carry
Speaker 1: the record EVENU because the visual to go with the sound, right,
Speaker 1: he made it look electric. And this is the time
Speaker 1: missy videos he's shooting Bustard come out with you like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is there's nothing, it's just the time of black. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He did what he was supposed to do. So now
Speaker 1: this whole first album, when I look at the credits,
Speaker 1: it's mostly you, p K Swiss, am I missing somebody
Speaker 1: or earth her. Okay, all right, so you're creating this album,
Speaker 1: describe to describe to us what's going on? Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: quick little flashback. The reason why I'm like, wow, you
Speaker 1: know he came down to home. To nine. He was like, Yo, man,
Speaker 1: we need job beasts with these you know, with these cats.
Speaker 1: We got the yarkh who's coming down? He said, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew why Kim first. Okay, we just know him
Speaker 1: as why he's hitting. He's like, Marsha, we don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, Marsha, I love minem to. He showed us
Speaker 1: it was poor white people in the world, especially from
Speaker 1: New York. It's like, exactly why I came down, and yeah,
Speaker 1: why I came down to the block. He used to
Speaker 1: come a couple of times like yo, man, get down
Speaker 1: with us. Man. I'm like, now out and were getting home.
Speaker 1: You're getting money, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: he came down one time It's like, Yo, you better
Speaker 1: get down with us. Oh ship click, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That big spak we pulled out. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's like, Yo, chilling. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, yeo, this thing is crazy. You you would
Speaker 1: get shot to get me the yunkers wo me a
Speaker 1: big sense said Yo, let's go to young. Then that's
Speaker 1: the Locks came out first with Casino, so always there
Speaker 1: was for them. You know what I'm saying. He came out,
Speaker 1: can't can't, can't get me a bit like he's niggas
Speaker 1: is fired. You know what I'm saying. He kept saying,
Speaker 1: Now we got to find a big dog. He's out
Speaker 1: doing crazy. Ship. We gotta find him. And was always
Speaker 1: the big stuff. They knew that locks the pups, know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Right then, Um, then about tom Dog
Speaker 1: came to the the studio. You know, you know you had
Speaker 1: knew the dog before. They don't know. So this is
Speaker 1: your first time meeting the dog. You have a dog
Speaker 1: with him at that time. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know because why dog Grudge was always around and if
Speaker 1: dog did have a dog, it was because Grudge was
Speaker 1: one of them. Like I'm talking about him sitting down
Speaker 1: his towering over this motherfucker, big big Brooklyn dog. Now
Speaker 1: he's just looking a ship like over there. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So be a cat person to
Speaker 1: be down with rough riders. It got to be official, officiated.
Speaker 1: It can't be no running dog's not no fucking skinny
Speaker 1: as big And if you don't lose the fight, he
Speaker 1: got to get dirty cool. But at the same time
Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I'm saying he came to shooting.
Speaker 1: He was super hyphi. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: had books and books and books and books and books
Speaker 1: and wraps. You know why with all the books, all
Speaker 1: the books, he will move every time with the whole library.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like like I'm going somewhere, I'm taking a book. No,
Speaker 1: he moved with the library, probably to the company with
Speaker 1: all his crates exactly, you know, because he from the
Speaker 1: ever what I'm saying out it with all that ship
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so boom he had come and then
Speaker 1: like he like, you know, while I was like, you
Speaker 1: spit that one from him? This, I'm like, cool, and
Speaker 1: he's spitting that for you. Yeah, okay, I'm like, who
Speaker 1: spit that one for him? Do? Do? Do they? I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: probably two verse. I'm like, hold on, say that to this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we got something, we got something, right,
Speaker 1: I said, say that other one to this beat boom,
Speaker 1: Oh we got something that other one said to this
Speaker 1: beat boom. I'm like, oh, yeah, we aren't here now,
Speaker 1: we're in the pocket. We're in the pocket. Because my
Speaker 1: beast was always theatric and he's theatric so it was
Speaker 1: like a match like the hip hoppy hoppy hoppy ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He rhymed to it on
Speaker 1: freestyles and coming up, but it came with that gothic
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you're not a body and
Speaker 1: the trump what I'm saying, it's like gothic in Metropolitan.
Speaker 1: When he came with them balls and I came with that,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, ship got him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Then EARV got the fucking position. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh we in the IRV. I ain't going I gotta
Speaker 1: give hervos props to should he give he tap dance?
Speaker 1: And I think he almost got fired trying to get get,
Speaker 1: trying to get dogs like you ain't signing my quick
Speaker 1: and you was like, damn this students passionate, come on,
Speaker 1: it's going to yonkers. And that's when Dog had a
Speaker 1: broken jaw and you were there that day. I was
Speaker 1: playing the beats. Oh Nix was trying to leave my
Speaker 1: name out of ship out here with all that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm playing the joints. He
Speaker 1: cutting down, cutting, could only the old meal and ship
Speaker 1: for months, Wired, Yeah, Wired he was the first he
Speaker 1: was to wire. Yeah, he was the first one. He
Speaker 1: was breaking a little bit and get a little more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thats crazy. Yeah, it's just amazing. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I was there. I heard it from lear heard it
Speaker 1: from I'm playing cutting cut. I don't even know that
Speaker 1: he was used to or he was just it's dope.
Speaker 1: You know, you'll you'll catch it all right, Like it
Speaker 1: was a beat playing right now and I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 1: he kicks some ship. Yeah. I think DMX like me more.
Speaker 1: When I stopped rapping, you became non competition at school.
Speaker 1: I think that's how much of a competition guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie like it was a little different.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to have friends and ship. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm around in prim time because we get nobody, no beats,
Speaker 1: something like naked. I gotta move around a little bit,
Speaker 1: like come on, you know what I'm saying. That portfolio Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, man, I love the squad, but
Speaker 1: I kind of here. I had to come to Queens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all right. When I googled you, something amazing came
Speaker 1: up and said Harlem. But it's that born in the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Yeah is that the truth? Okay, Yeah, I'm boring. Okay,
Speaker 1: born in the Boston Bridge project. Okay, my mom s
Speaker 1: CARDI from projects. That gives me a little extra primeness. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, we will be flash,
Speaker 1: but I still wanna like a little more me and
Speaker 1: cousin to talk about that and ship. So you might
Speaker 1: be richer than the still might get stuck. So so
Speaker 1: during the during the course of time, I started to
Speaker 1: think of something the other day, knowing that if I
Speaker 1: had you here, and I just want to be straight
Speaker 1: up and just asked the question right like, I don't
Speaker 1: remember seeing you and Swiss in the same room, and
Speaker 1: over ten years, only time I can think of you
Speaker 1: and Swiss being in the same room. Was it like
Speaker 1: at that time? Yeah, And I don't know. This is
Speaker 1: a question. I seriously don't know. Like I know, I'm
Speaker 1: close to both sides, so I should know, but I
Speaker 1: seriously don't know this. I swear to go. I swear
Speaker 1: to go if if you want to take my fingers
Speaker 1: not crossed, none of that, you know that funny? I
Speaker 1: swear I don't know the answer to this. Why is
Speaker 1: that though like, okay, I did well, it was a
Speaker 1: little big paper I did. If you think I'm jiggie,
Speaker 1: five cuts from the money per respect boom, I didn't
Speaker 1: get out me dog, numerous cuts and corpro duce on
Speaker 1: like these thirteen cuts on uh, it's Alcohelo's hot. They
Speaker 1: with the keen time for flushing my flesh the blood
Speaker 1: the blood, right, you know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: getting kind of veto okay, but I was getting kind
Speaker 1: of blocked. Yeah, I was getting kind of blocked because
Speaker 1: rough outs with my management. I wasn't a rough frauther
Speaker 1: of producer, you know what I'm saying. So at the
Speaker 1: same time, like my phone call stopped coming through the
Speaker 1: office on I'm like, yo, I got just so seven
Speaker 1: million records collectively a matter of fact. But on you
Speaker 1: it's a little bit popular beast sign and miss you
Speaker 1: know it's like six million money properly respecting from one
Speaker 1: point five Dog went about three out the gate all
Speaker 1: that underwear management, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: at the beginning of them starting flesh of my flesh
Speaker 1: felt Vito, I think you said, yeah, Like my phone
Speaker 1: calls wasn't coming through from you, the management. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I had to go a little deep cover. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I spoke to I think I
Speaker 1: spoke to so so death. There was like, yo, he says,
Speaker 1: you're not doing be some more, hold on, hold on, okay,
Speaker 1: and then they're insinuated this is coming from your camp exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: from my management. Okay, Wow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the same time, and it actually it's written in blood,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the same time I'm doing
Speaker 1: flesh your flesh, if you know the Swiss of the
Speaker 1: majority of flesh my flesh and different things. And I
Speaker 1: did one song It's called Dogs for Life, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying the same time, and Dog was catching
Speaker 1: the the the the vibes. He just made the song
Speaker 1: for me. Robert still with your dog nink it would
Speaker 1: right to me, think blood, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So with the one song that they don't flesh my flesh,
Speaker 1: Dog just you made it for me. Okay. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. You know Greece, Nick, I'm here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Besides, with the politics is
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but actually Swiss is successful
Speaker 1: to it. Let's not get it to us right right?
Speaker 1: No word? Yeah yeah, yeah, Actually was the best thing
Speaker 1: to happen to me. You're not being a part of flesh,
Speaker 1: of my flesh as much as you wanted to be. Na.
Speaker 1: Just really it made me to an individual producer. Okay,
Speaker 1: like yeah, it made me to like iron grease, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That came after that, Yeah, came out.
Speaker 1: They focused say okay, let's set over. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I said, that's my flesh. You're feeling a little crazy.
Speaker 1: But you don't get word. You get word from social death.
Speaker 1: But did you add a goal to your management and
Speaker 1: say what's going on here? Like? Um, not quite? Okay,
Speaker 1: now quite he took so so no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no. I got it
Speaker 1: from the office downtown, Michael say, specific name is up
Speaker 1: with the ladies working there. It's so funny ship going on.
Speaker 1: They're sending your phone calls. So another producer, so it's
Speaker 1: forth like, oh but the cap all this up pulled
Speaker 1: up to jay Z. Clip jay Z said the loll
Speaker 1: in one shot. Okay, what clip is that? And clip
Speaker 1: that jay Z put up because actually I'm so glad
Speaker 1: Jay did. I'm like, I gotta tell this storry numbred.
Speaker 1: But Jay was like, um for one of his albums, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I went to the dude doing all them records, Uh,
Speaker 1: Dame Crease that produced the stock and hell of Shot
Speaker 1: and then um, that's just smelled good too, right then? Um,
Speaker 1: J was like, you know, I wanted I wanted Dame
Speaker 1: Crease and then he sent me the Nephew, but now
Speaker 1: I want to Crease. I'm like, nah, I can't be
Speaker 1: sitting what you're doing, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: Jay kept the Fisher like not but mean enough for
Speaker 1: We did some hits, you know what I'm seeing. We
Speaker 1: did some ship you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: can't front. I went to work with Fat Nigger. So
Speaker 1: that was one of the phone calls that got redistributed.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get a chance to work with the
Speaker 1: whole one song? Okay, um Freeway, big Spender, Hey, big Spender.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, that was the only time.
Speaker 1: It's the only time. But we actually we always have great,
Speaker 1: good dialog, especially on the toys with dog and everything.
Speaker 1: Great dollargue there always give me a lot of great insight.
Speaker 1: So this is for people that don't know, and obviously me,
Speaker 1: I'm a part of that and they don't know. So
Speaker 1: flush of my flesh comes out. Another successful he has
Speaker 1: too number one albums in one year. You guys know
Speaker 1: each other from back then. You did feel a little
Speaker 1: Vito like you said, how do you black ball? Black ball?
Speaker 1: So how do you amend this? Like how do y'all
Speaker 1: come back together? No dog? Dog never ever ever dog.
Speaker 1: You never saw it as him. Dog never ever love
Speaker 1: my nig. He always kept it to billion with me.
Speaker 1: Always crease some new album, pull up if nobody else
Speaker 1: wanted me to. His movie scores Greece. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: movie called X and wounds, come through the score, the
Speaker 1: whole score on that, Greece. I'm doing a movie called
Speaker 1: Credit to the Grave, Come through the score and that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and all the main things.
Speaker 1: So he will always keep me involved. But all his
Speaker 1: projects or anything he was doing, but yourself. But earlier
Speaker 1: he said you felt black ball. You can't feel black
Speaker 1: ball that they're doing scores no, no, I was black
Speaker 1: ball in the almost society in your own camp. You're saying, no,
Speaker 1: you know from the rough fry of situation was a
Speaker 1: little yeah, it was a little like, uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but from X there's DMX. Let me just ask you
Speaker 1: thought it was Swiss himself saying no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Never no never never, I never never never never never.
Speaker 1: I'm actually actually quite proud of Swiss. Okay, but ye's
Speaker 1: just having beat competition. That's what everyone had at that time.
Speaker 1: Not quite what's I didn't always having to beat competitions. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just cranking and doing dope shit. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was, uh, competition and the door behind you ships coming,
Speaker 1: it's always coming. No, I just got just do dope shit.
Speaker 1: I ain't know. It was like getting the closest door
Speaker 1: behind you. It's times sometimes yeah, you know, it happens
Speaker 1: like that. I don't say sometimes it is like that,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it happens like right right, Wow, this is interesting,
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Now I just don't through. Man, it's dope.
Speaker 1: It's still a movie still filming. So so what's part
Speaker 1: of the un d MX is going back together on
Speaker 1: his albums because I know you said that the soundtracks
Speaker 1: the third album. The third album was X Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Uh, that album is super successful too.
Speaker 1: When I came in on, came in on d XL
Speaker 1: with the locks and drag and damn what the record
Speaker 1: on that faint my you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it came in on Area boom. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was a third album. Okay, fast board to the
Speaker 1: new album Excellence. Yeah, that's it right, excedus right there, right, yes, um,
Speaker 1: would you on there? Okay, what did you think about
Speaker 1: the album? It was politically correct. That's a politically correct answer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: to know he loved the album. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like and trust me like social media and
Speaker 1: all that ship. You ain't know what are your beach
Speaker 1: is the harder sould accident everything. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I need to had to put up a post. It's
Speaker 1: like if I'm on this album but not support my
Speaker 1: motherfucking nigger, I'm not with all that that that that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know it's kids but
Speaker 1: why are you saying family correct? Um, you got to
Speaker 1: think about it. Actually, Swisses as a a it's a
Speaker 1: good name and uh a good brand, so it's only
Speaker 1: right for him to push it and put things together
Speaker 1: to get what you know what I'm saying. It could
Speaker 1: be you know, gotten gone and even bringing all the
Speaker 1: celebrities evolved to supporting and different things. It's done real good,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But politically correct, that's that's
Speaker 1: like something different. I mean I was expected hot cool, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's hot, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like what literally correct means? Not only am
Speaker 1: I producing ship? You know what I'm saying, I'm the
Speaker 1: president too, So I'm gonna look at things like and
Speaker 1: even if I'm not producing on it, I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: at things like, Okay, the marketing on this ships eight plus,
Speaker 1: I like the way the cook down. Okay, these things
Speaker 1: right here. So it's I learned that from check. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Just the things just to make
Speaker 1: sure things selling and get to where they need to
Speaker 1: be without the ego of just me being on it.
Speaker 1: I asked you something else in that vein what do
Speaker 1: you think that album would have sounded like had X
Speaker 1: been here, because I think he was heard a lot
Speaker 1: of it, but now it was different. Yeah, it was different.
Speaker 1: It was was completed. The ALBUMA came out. It's not
Speaker 1: the Zach version, and he was working on I know
Speaker 1: there was a record that he talked about that never
Speaker 1: made the car all the record spoke about one Champs
Speaker 1: actually made it. But there was a record that everybody
Speaker 1: kept saying, Yeah, the pop Smoke record. Oh pop smoke Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah that was probably yeah, Okay, damn, that's right. I
Speaker 1: forgot that, Okay, Yeah, I smocused on that beat. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, like I heard, I heard it.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear when loud Wayne was on the record,
Speaker 1: and I didn't hear the Nas and the Jay record,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't hear that at all record for like
Speaker 1: four couple of years. It sounds you know, it sounds
Speaker 1: like locks joint. Know that this is what my dogs
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, Actually, I see you.
Speaker 1: Bront So. You even did an album with riff Raff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was that bag? Like that was it was independent? It
Speaker 1: was independent still a back Yeah, it was half on
Speaker 1: an independence. Um we did as a mix sape. First.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, we did see Now that
Speaker 1: was See that's different. Okay, Yo producing locks and x
Speaker 1: YO fan base comprise. What are you doing? Oh my god? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I could imagine they was shooting me up
Speaker 1: like crazy. See I met Riff, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but Andy Midical Lockers and I'm probably yeah, probably you know,
Speaker 1: dirt Nasty, Yeah, the White Weird three amigos, and I
Speaker 1: did the track for them. Riff was like, you got
Speaker 1: more of those? I'm like, yeah, you know, so, I
Speaker 1: wasn't really aware of his fan base. I saw to
Speaker 1: do some reach like that because they got like a
Speaker 1: cult following. He got some whole ship w w F
Speaker 1: type of So I'm like, you know what, now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go in. I shocked the shut on me. You
Speaker 1: started doing an album and he was just like going
Speaker 1: ham and his way him. I'm like, oh he is,
Speaker 1: And I was listening like Yo. He looked at a
Speaker 1: lot of TV as a kid, you looked at a
Speaker 1: lot of You could tell he was just in in
Speaker 1: the crib looking at MTV, looking at I'm going Connie
Speaker 1: like Chung spitting on the type of wild bars and
Speaker 1: Ship and then um, when the project came out, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people was like, yo, Greece, how
Speaker 1: you do that? You know the Locks and X fans,
Speaker 1: you know, how you do that? How you make me
Speaker 1: like him? In fact? How you do that? What I'm saying?
Speaker 1: And it just was a whole different uh music, you
Speaker 1: know that. It was like it was cool, you know
Speaker 1: what it was differently Ship because I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're dog in the lock. We killed everybody, killed half
Speaker 1: of the world, catching kill them in And I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me do so. How do y'all tip through the group?
Speaker 1: Through that group? Yeah? Okay, Actually I'm honking saying, um,
Speaker 1: my man, Big Chuck, Phoenix, Server soon and Ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He throw the shows, He got
Speaker 1: the store out there, and he hooked it up. I was,
Speaker 1: I was, well, you know, I was living the Phoenix
Speaker 1: for I was like, Yo, I'm hooky over with dirt.
Speaker 1: I was living out the X to right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: first went out there weeks and like that little living
Speaker 1: mad White Boys listen excellent day about Gona some snakes
Speaker 1: like hold on, buddy, it's not it's not a normal city. Ship.
Speaker 1: What the Phoenix and you'll just changed the snakes and
Speaker 1: like that. Come on, funny, I saw rad coons right
Speaker 1: right now, coons get I'm not going to say that
Speaker 1: because there might be some type of law. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't think about no raccoons. I want to be honest.
Speaker 1: I got a friend named raccoon. No one cares about him.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna hunting raccoons, Holy ship. No, no, that's
Speaker 1: where I live now. You don't eat raccoons though, right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's at the rattle snaks. I eat it the raccoons. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no raccoons, okay, two different coats. Okay, where I live now,
Speaker 1: there's raccoons and DIDs now living in Phoenix, the Carolinas
Speaker 1: or somewhere. Okay, they're all living in Phoenix. Stopians, rattle
Speaker 1: snakes East the raccoons. No, it's no, it's no rash bad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Are we gonna get the motherfucker's okay? Moving
Speaker 1: them on? We flop floating around? Another thing that that
Speaker 1: that that that was interesting. I think one day I
Speaker 1: was in the w hotel and Max b walks in
Speaker 1: and you walk in Frenchman trying to walk in and
Speaker 1: I forget the name of this point star kicked. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't deploy a name off. I don't remember her name is.
Speaker 1: But they came down. This is a long time ago. Obviously.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of poinn stars that Max B
Speaker 1: and at the Long State mine because they've seen this
Speaker 1: porn star Tip Roxley Stad crazy for Roxy so himnful
Speaker 1: and I hadn't here. I am like, I'm I'm like
Speaker 1: when I jerk go up, I just regular jerky, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that you need the internet
Speaker 1: and got it like they knew my name all that,
Speaker 1: so I like what, I don't need the end. You
Speaker 1: got a great imagination, amund gotta picture you got it.
Speaker 1: So but they were so into that, So I say,
Speaker 1: let's just let's subscribe Max Be. For people who never
Speaker 1: met Max B. Subscribe Max B if you can't, I motherfucker,
Speaker 1: that's my little bro man. I love him, manum now
Speaker 1: Max Man. She's like he he put the whole prestorring, yes,
Speaker 1: pre storing, okay, and you got something to do with
Speaker 1: this pre starker, I believe, So I got something to
Speaker 1: do with everything, right, you actually a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: just to go back after the black ball Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: the nigga's first thing is to fun with me, right
Speaker 1: with you made trunk? I was in Queens, yes, and
Speaker 1: I am, but I boom uh all right. It was
Speaker 1: two thousand and six seven. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was black balled. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It wasn't it was. It was not
Speaker 1: my phone calls coming through, okay, through my management. So
Speaker 1: I had to get out there on my own and
Speaker 1: find my own way, okay, and it worked out pretty spectacular,
Speaker 1: thank you, right, not two dours of six, well seven,
Speaker 1: and just as New York, we're getting Clawbert. Now, I
Speaker 1: love all music, you know, if you see my catalog,
Speaker 1: I'll work with Yeah, I ain gonna say everybody, but
Speaker 1: just the night's over here, buging how much animated artists?
Speaker 1: You what I'm saying. So, but you meet back to
Speaker 1: thand and six. Right now, we're getting closer, Like I'm
Speaker 1: sure about New York, like God and the hes just
Speaker 1: trying to hate these songs. We're bringing New York back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody doing the and all that. Just then,
Speaker 1: no niggers in the city's saying. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that I signed in the crib, right, and this
Speaker 1: is gonna suck you up a little bit. I'm in
Speaker 1: the crib like, yo, man, I kind of make something
Speaker 1: that's on meat. Okay, I'm not an artist, but I
Speaker 1: just I know what I need and I pulled the
Speaker 1: piano and I'm like, fuck it, we're smoking side that
Speaker 1: I sent it to you. Then I send it the
Speaker 1: styles and y'all put verses on it and we shot
Speaker 1: it and it started bringing the city back because we
Speaker 1: had the weed from New York that was clicking. It
Speaker 1: was from New York, New York, New York side with
Speaker 1: diesel everywhere, right, gangster and fun song at the same time,
Speaker 1: and then it was dead. And then you brought me
Speaker 1: for the song and you put it off reality. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's probably me what I'm saying, wrought me for You're right,
Speaker 1: and that was me put me bay. That was crazy
Speaker 1: like that at each other to be before something. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's like, yo, know, I got this verse
Speaker 1: um that you that you did, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: clear it and I'm like, your maphis mad high and
Speaker 1: they're like how I never did a verse for Mathis
Speaker 1: so I'm not putting together as Greece who gave it
Speaker 1: to him? So then they finally play it for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, maphis an ill, how did you get that?
Speaker 1: Got it? And he turned out of this Greece. Let's
Speaker 1: get back to your story, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So let's go hold on because I want to get
Speaker 1: this sour for a separate part. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: get like when you first I knew that Max b
Speaker 1: was like because he was a different type of artist,
Speaker 1: Like I think you were saying that's why you were
Speaker 1: saying New York was getting crised. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. See, the thing was, it was right off
Speaker 1: the the the Burg game. I was about to ask
Speaker 1: you for the game, right and Max brother my nigga,
Speaker 1: Mike Murder shout to Mike Murder. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was like, Chris, get this nigger. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to him to leave burgag say no he was.
Speaker 1: They had the frictional. Yeah, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fun was. That's why you see that come up video.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you think about it and I don't
Speaker 1: think nothing about it. That's they shipped, and they know
Speaker 1: they ship. You know what I'm saying. Boom, So they say,
Speaker 1: you ain't not gonna get me. The ain't a little nigger,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So at the same time,
Speaker 1: Max Brother was like, get the snicker man, Get the
Speaker 1: snigger man. They're gonna kill a snigger man. They I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, get this nigger because it was the music
Speaker 1: in the street streets, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, cool, and then you know, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: bring He's like, no, Greece, get him please, oh, bring
Speaker 1: him up. So he came up boom and was like yo,
Speaker 1: man where we didn't even get getting you know, just
Speaker 1: like dog, but in a different way. Another ray animated artists,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then um he started
Speaker 1: going I'm like, damn, this nigga is different, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we started, you know, shouting young
Speaker 1: little young lowers. The U was doing a lot of beats,
Speaker 1: a lot of beats, and they saw it coming up
Speaker 1: to you want to tell me that you want to
Speaker 1: go to come to me like this? This is different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, oh, this is this
Speaker 1: is groovy. You know what I'm saying that. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm coming to dude. Let me turn the temple up.
Speaker 1: Dude in that Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. And then we just
Speaker 1: started doing it from there, and then we just saw
Speaker 1: the grooving and and then that's when French came on.
Speaker 1: French came with the Cocaine City DVDs. He French was
Speaker 1: young French. First come up DVD was Dorkey Diamonds. When
Speaker 1: you said earlier, I mainly through the French Montana. I
Speaker 1: was out of live Dorky Diamonds. That was DVD Dorgy Diamonds.
Speaker 1: And I believe I got the other guy named, but
Speaker 1: it was cocaine. What Cocaine Cocaine City was was French
Speaker 1: Montenda DVD. And and he was still he was coming
Speaker 1: out of beings when the Coke Boy drew pop right there,
Speaker 1: Bank Bank. You know what I'm saying, he was coming
Speaker 1: out of being young French. Okay, when I was just
Speaker 1: ratting names like French Montana now you know, saying, so
Speaker 1: boom him and Max Star doing the tape and we
Speaker 1: did the Colke Wave tape or three of Us and
Speaker 1: Ship with the DVD. You know what the v game
Speaker 1: So Boom did that Ship. That's just a pu you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. A matter of fact, even winded
Speaker 1: a little bit after the Solar Dasy. You got the
Speaker 1: baby grind situation. Then I got the baby grind situation.
Speaker 1: I did Google music, so when I was doing Google Music,
Speaker 1: I was still on that beginning Claubert. I just got
Speaker 1: to do something, So I made the whole mix sape
Speaker 1: just hard me wrapping on everything and songs for I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care nigs like me or not that I
Speaker 1: had Max come through one song Connecticut cutsh Connecticut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just said Boom Blue, and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're doing. We didn't talk about nothing,
Speaker 1: but he felt the vibe was like I'm Achilles Niggers.
Speaker 1: I'm not the artist, but I'm still with Akillings because
Speaker 1: I know the wave limps. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like Greece, I got it, let me do it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, go ahead. And then that's why I did
Speaker 1: the mix, said boom Is at one point five. It's
Speaker 1: just said Pune after that, then we did Coke Wave.
Speaker 1: So did you ever get like any slack from like
Speaker 1: the dip set side, because you know you're being hall
Speaker 1: and related him. I'm pretty sure, Okay, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: somebody certain way that's what it is. Who well, hey, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nobody never said nothing to me,
Speaker 1: all right, right, okay, So now let's move on to
Speaker 1: French for a second. We're seeing French announcing projects where
Speaker 1: Harry Fraud. Yes, we see it, and we know it's nothing.
Speaker 1: But does that feel weird? Do you see you're seeing
Speaker 1: that sometimes? Um, not quite frenchman worker Harry Fraud. Actually
Speaker 1: I was working for it too. Actually I wrapped to
Speaker 1: a couple of Spece sues um a while ago. Funny
Speaker 1: servant Harry for it too. Let's get to it, pretty,
Speaker 1: Let's get to it and into that's what we're here for,
Speaker 1: all right. I think it might be a mad I
Speaker 1: don't care, my boy dre right. I think, yeah, purchased
Speaker 1: some of have you fraud equipment back then, Yeah, purchased
Speaker 1: or perks have even purchased what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think, um, happy Frauda, probably
Speaker 1: because some of a lot of producers double beats up.
Speaker 1: That's one thing to give the same year. It's one
Speaker 1: thing I never dine in my whole twenties something damn
Speaker 1: the thirty career. I never gave an artist to artists
Speaker 1: same people would be the pro and doing that though,
Speaker 1: I mean, besides obviously getting paid twice being greedy. But
Speaker 1: if one person takes off of the record legitimately, then
Speaker 1: the other one is canceled out and somebody owe some
Speaker 1: money and somebody got some hard feelings, which I'm getting
Speaker 1: to the hard feelings right. So I think the bro
Speaker 1: Dre came in, um took hold equip right, not London
Speaker 1: Dre right, London Dre Okay cool. I can't even want
Speaker 1: to say that part. Okay cool, but you know that's
Speaker 1: what it is. Came you know, and took all the ship.
Speaker 1: So I have you called me up? I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: good give dud damn like man, because I'm a producer,
Speaker 1: producer and trip from you know what I've been doing.
Speaker 1: So I'm like Dre, I call it drading. Negotiate with Dre.
Speaker 1: That's my good guy too. I'm like, Drey, get it
Speaker 1: guys stuff increase this nigger you get the accident, I'm like,
Speaker 1: have you give them six extra beats? Make it work?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna work with dre Bo boom. You
Speaker 1: want to get this equipment back. I had to come
Speaker 1: to negotiate. God makes noise with Christ. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's stories and pre stories with a lot of things.
Speaker 1: But even going back to the virginal French working solely
Speaker 1: but happy for aud on his hip hoppy type ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, it's not nothing okay
Speaker 1: cool because it's just like that. So I'm proud of everybody.
Speaker 1: Is it a level up? Sometimes like I would still
Speaker 1: always have SEVENI four million soulton counting because he's like,
Speaker 1: you know that. You know what happens is when we
Speaker 1: when we uh we do this, I tweet, I tweet out,
Speaker 1: r so, I tweet out. I say, yo, we got
Speaker 1: grease on. I'll say we got suth to such on.
Speaker 1: One of the main things is that's saying does grease
Speaker 1: feel away? Like it seems like once French bleue like
Speaker 1: he didn't come back have that wave no more together
Speaker 1: like you him And this is from the people. You
Speaker 1: know what I got this. This is with drink champions
Speaker 1: for so I got out. It's about the people being quietly.
Speaker 1: That was they see it, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was the most asked question was what does he
Speaker 1: feel away about French working with Harry Fordon and as like,
Speaker 1: does he feel away that when French went to a
Speaker 1: certain level that seemed like y'all stopped working together. Um Na, man,
Speaker 1: now all or some ship? Yeah, it could be some
Speaker 1: fun life involved, but you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: to me where I'm at in time, actually I needed
Speaker 1: to take some cool breaks off I had, like especially
Speaker 1: with Dog and all that I had like a fucking
Speaker 1: consecutive years of mashing all his beers of French out there.
Speaker 1: That's for him, you know what I'm saying. I had
Speaker 1: to take a break off, Like I said, I'll smoke
Speaker 1: or drinking more, different things and ship, kids has grown
Speaker 1: and different things. Just really, uh, take time for me,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying. Different ship beside. Yeah, running this
Speaker 1: fucking race for so many fucking years and ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't feel no way.
Speaker 1: Actually I took time off to get a lot of
Speaker 1: spiritual healing and get very closer to my family. And
Speaker 1: Dad's sitting still. Did you said, no, Dad's sitting still still? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dad is home. I'm not outside. I'm home, you know
Speaker 1: something like I've been outside bumping to you that is
Speaker 1: that I come my uncle house in the Bronx nor like,
Speaker 1: how does looping back? Going back backwards now on some
Speaker 1: Harlem ship. Did you have any interactions with big El? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what give us something else? Though? Man, big El,
Speaker 1: that's my guy, guy guy, you gotta understand um going
Speaker 1: no way back. My crew and I being sure from
Speaker 1: the corn. We had a big gas battle saying that
Speaker 1: Paul cam blood shot everybody mace. Wow, we cut him
Speaker 1: and I'll beat niggas some black I was big staying
Speaker 1: me no, my Nika pelleah and I'll be niggas a
Speaker 1: black He was on they were children a card. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we just was on some black hoodie guns and bracklets.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But m L was the
Speaker 1: first person our Age range to get signed, so we
Speaker 1: signed Sony. He was with d I T. C. He
Speaker 1: was with Columbia. Yeah, that was you know what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 1: no is this only Columbia has always been on the SNY.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I don't think Columbia ever stood on his own.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so No, I think it's
Speaker 1: always been on the SNY. Bro whatever he was okay,
Speaker 1: So I was like the first person out of all
Speaker 1: of us to yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure. Kim
Speaker 1: and Mace was like, oh, ship, that's right there. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's right there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, far as the young generation, ham Teddy Roley
Speaker 1: grew up from the block where I grew up back
Speaker 1: raw base was on the projects and your projects to
Speaker 1: make thinks. Kumo d was I'm Hunt nine Hunt twenty
Speaker 1: nine Street did he had a little glasses always always
Speaker 1: superstars Yeah, and then all the DJs Bruce CB what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was always a lot of ship
Speaker 1: going on in the hood, but different levels and generations.
Speaker 1: Niggas wrapping, rapping, rapping, spin L was the first one.
Speaker 1: L got signed and we knew it was close and
Speaker 1: just like theoretically my studio I was on twenty ninth
Speaker 1: Street right before L got killed. He would come to
Speaker 1: my studio all the time. I kept it in the
Speaker 1: hood as long as I could. I had to get
Speaker 1: funk out of there, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: L would come to the studio and this is after
Speaker 1: he had the singles with everything out. He was doing
Speaker 1: a party from Oh and he was just like Yo,
Speaker 1: creething oft the b C D And he was just
Speaker 1: going down the second floor and just right right right.
Speaker 1: And even when he got um, we gotta killed his
Speaker 1: his uh flyers from the club sending the studio. You
Speaker 1: got the bag with the whole thick of flyers and
Speaker 1: ship what I'm saying. So it was like fuck, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But L is the legend of
Speaker 1: our age range, especially your hall. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he was about to get I
Speaker 1: mean he was supposed to get sign the rocket Feller
Speaker 1: around your time, right, yeah, and it would have been crazy.
Speaker 1: Jay was sounding like up a little bit too, he said,
Speaker 1: he was sounding like the girl A lot of people
Speaker 1: sounded like big. Yeah. He was coming like with original
Speaker 1: style becomes some original style, was like, that's the new wave.
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, I mean, yeah, we're gonna do quick time
Speaker 1: with Slim. Usually this time we take shots. But you're
Speaker 1: not taking shots. So we're just we're just we'll just
Speaker 1: we'll just no no, no weak shot. We'll just we'll
Speaker 1: just ride with it that one of your homies want
Speaker 1: to step in for you? On your homies, wanna stepping
Speaker 1: in for you? Do you want to stepping No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, you gotta take You gotta take the whole game,
Speaker 1: the whole game. You got your own ship, Like, all right,
Speaker 1: come on, I like you got your own ship, Tracy,
Speaker 1: you help the bole. You're gonna take the shot. You
Speaker 1: gotta bring your own patrol, bring up with yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, we got we got on my shot glass.
Speaker 1: I'm so shoot my water. Yeah, this this is kind
Speaker 1: of easy, man, it's my step. I'll talk about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because did him Okay, yeah, some of these are good.
Speaker 1: Some of these are good. Hi. You ready? You only
Speaker 1: take the shot if he says neither or if he
Speaker 1: says both. If he doesn't say neither both, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's prayer question, all right. So this one,
Speaker 1: I know, I kind of know he's gonna go. Um,
Speaker 1: it's quick to have a slide uh nahs or jay,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking technical man, J what aspect No, it's just
Speaker 1: any aspect one, whatever it is. Don't don't be toothings.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it if you want to. It's hard
Speaker 1: because I didn't take a shot there. It's okay, both
Speaker 1: of them. It's two lates. I was, I would say,
Speaker 1: J on the oporneal and doing different things. But quietly, no,
Speaker 1: it's got a lot of different right both to me, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it sounds like both to me. That's been
Speaker 1: just a right cool All right, now this one, I
Speaker 1: pretty much know where're gonna go with this one. DMX
Speaker 1: with Tupac. I love Tupac. Okay, but you're going with X.
Speaker 1: Gotta keep you roll roll some of these I'm ill give.
Speaker 1: Just pass me back to product the thing, dump it
Speaker 1: out because I'm still trying to promote. Yeah, yeah, get
Speaker 1: back the case. Yeah there you go. Hey, you want
Speaker 1: this one too? You get him everything? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like I wrote about Molly's yea throwing back old okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Sunny catch it, okay, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: you got with this, come on, okay, all right, Ace
Speaker 1: hood or currency comes okay, that's you got a lot
Speaker 1: of drinks and currency spy, virginal godless original style that
Speaker 1: does virginal groove. There, that's what I funk with Derek
Speaker 1: currency figure all right, nineties or two thousand of hip hop?
Speaker 1: Rusk said to two thousand's two thousands? Oh ship, I
Speaker 1: am alright cool. Damnever considered two thousands or was nineties?
Speaker 1: That one? That's true because it bleeds. It bleeds what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like Semon could like it could be radio
Speaker 1: podcasts were in the future now okay, uh better up podcast.
Speaker 1: That's cool looking at it, still the same semi song. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know Scarface or ice Cube, he gonna take a shot.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Uncle Face. Okay, Okay, I love
Speaker 1: God Uncle Facing al Right, this one he's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: take a shot to. He should almost Biggie or Big Gul. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's a shot. See see that's the ship that sucks
Speaker 1: me up. It sounds like a shot. Just gotta pick
Speaker 1: both because yeah, I'm gonna say both. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: one thing, like you know what I'm saying, course, l bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that's the legacy. But
Speaker 1: I just be a little with big. It just was
Speaker 1: the one thing that. I wish I was a little
Speaker 1: older we were doing it. I would have had them
Speaker 1: do more songs, just more, just keep going, all right.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the amount of songs is
Speaker 1: a legacy, right, Okay, DJ Mogs or Alchemists m hmm,
Speaker 1: name from the same did lineage? Did Monks produce um
Speaker 1: at Cypress Hill? No? The single which one time for
Speaker 1: some action? I know that's Redman hook. But now you're
Speaker 1: talking about if I could just kill a man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it. Damn Alchemists fire too. I gotta go
Speaker 1: with Moms. Yeah, because because because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I can just kill him. That's part of the influence.
Speaker 1: What's got part of us here? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So all right? Yeah, not taking when alcoms dope? No analog?
Speaker 1: Did you? Oh? I don't know. Go both. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go both because somebody both. We got a drink were
Speaker 1: all the way? Yeah? Are you going right there? Here?
Speaker 1: You're driving? Right? Okay? All right? What was that? I
Speaker 1: was ana long digital? I agree with that. Um I
Speaker 1: learned the Seeker from Dr Dre and The Lord in Digital. Okay,
Speaker 1: but hold on, we gotta got MP three NPC two
Speaker 1: thousand or the SP twelve hundred. What about the three thousand?
Speaker 1: That's not dead brother ship. I didn't want to put
Speaker 1: that one, and I'm going have to say specause I
Speaker 1: don't like to some thousand at all. Okay to digit
Speaker 1: reason times f L studio reason our f L studio.
Speaker 1: What's that reason? It's record, that's all right? The ship
Speaker 1: that okay, major or indie m that's kind of both. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: just go ahead. Don't go to the tequila. Come on, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good, right there, you're good. That's a that we
Speaker 1: all have that. Okay, the rules n how many halfway through?
Speaker 1: I think we halfway through? Okay, pro tools or logic
Speaker 1: pro tools okay, yeah, because I um I use ableton
Speaker 1: ableton That just sounds like some witch scientists like he
Speaker 1: definitely made glasses like you. He looked like you, so
Speaker 1: able tonight, So you're going pro tools protels okay to me,
Speaker 1: people who wear glasses smarter. I'm just saying, just want
Speaker 1: to throw that out. Yeah l A or Miami l
Speaker 1: A because I do movies, okay, in video games, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know I love Miami. I love y'all. Please don't Joe,
Speaker 1: you can make more money we got okay, or Mace.
Speaker 1: That's just was on the text with Mace earlier. That's
Speaker 1: the pros both. It's not me, brother, it's the way
Speaker 1: the game got expect. Okay, Tracy is right there. You
Speaker 1: know everybody, Okay, all right, we're gonna waiting to finish.
Speaker 1: It's part of the game. He had more questions. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's all here. No banks on the mess. I'm not
Speaker 1: even in sports, but I'm not gonna do both. Alright,
Speaker 1: I don't do my Grandpap's and uncle's. We're from the Bronx,
Speaker 1: so that he die hard. Okay, correct, same, Okay, Papa,
Speaker 1: Daddy or Dre. That's gonna be tough. Dre is most
Speaker 1: of my influence and Puff is my first Chet sounds
Speaker 1: like both, damn Tracy both and I work with both
Speaker 1: of them personally. You know what I'm saying, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is fire because you don't know by the way, Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll wait. Okay, Swiss, Swiss or Timberland. You're going after this.
Speaker 1: Swiss is extended family. But I gotta go with Timberland. Okay, sure,
Speaker 1: you're okay, I'm going Timberland. Okay, come on, m Luck
Speaker 1: the way he said that, Come on, Marb deeper outcast.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going with this one. That's
Speaker 1: kind of fucking crazy because they're like two of them
Speaker 1: are at the young boy. Yeah, look outside. You gotta
Speaker 1: go both. You know what you want. Just don't don't
Speaker 1: go with the mom. I'm going with them, all right.
Speaker 1: This is one. I know, Rose is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite records all the time. But you know that man
Speaker 1: or Jada Kiss. Yeah, I'm gonna both New York. You
Speaker 1: gotta understand. I got multiple songs with anybody, and I
Speaker 1: got a song with Meth and coming. It's only three left,
Speaker 1: It's only three left, Only three shots. Letter. This is
Speaker 1: up in the air. This is up in the air.
Speaker 1: This one. I'm pretty sure he's good. Three three more shots.
Speaker 1: You're gonna even Foxy Brown. I gotta go with Eve, Okay.
Speaker 1: You know I work with even when she was even destruction.
Speaker 1: I worked even she was even destruction as well. After that,
Speaker 1: I went to Philly to do it too. I'm with
Speaker 1: the l a Um common Ground, Coolgi wrap A Big
Speaker 1: Daddy Came, I love Came, but I'm about to go
Speaker 1: to Cool. You wrap on the Gangster Ship and I
Speaker 1: got a COUCHI rap single coming up, So you're gonna
Speaker 1: Cuchi rap. I love Kano, but I'm gonna cut rap
Speaker 1: Gangster French Montana or a SAP Rocky French. I didn't
Speaker 1: really hear too many of a SAP records that Rocky record.
Speaker 1: I know, No, I didn't real it. Right now, let's
Speaker 1: get a negat some that's enough his record. Shout out
Speaker 1: to shout out to a sapping for because I cleared
Speaker 1: the Pups record. I cleared the Pups record for them. Okay, Ship,
Speaker 1: you gotta go back to what you said about dre
Speaker 1: about teaching you the analog, did you Okay? So with
Speaker 1: the analog, when I will work with Yah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. But when I work with Drake
Speaker 1: beause I work with a thousand times one was even
Speaker 1: destruction before she was out of the East. Um another artist,
Speaker 1: Amy Tavern Brazilian singing artists, but m we would track
Speaker 1: the drums analog. All drums stay analog and all that
Speaker 1: sounds digital. So we used two inch and pro tools.
Speaker 1: The reels are the drums and then everything else is digital.
Speaker 1: For the warmth especially come out to three thousand and ship.
Speaker 1: That's why I picked the two thousand too crispy, That's
Speaker 1: why I went with hunted and we got were kind
Speaker 1: of described it for people who don't understand what the
Speaker 1: hell we're talking. Actually, people don't know. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the real the real ship, you know, that's the drums
Speaker 1: on the reel and everything else would be digitally recorded.
Speaker 1: It's like holding a little person. So the first I
Speaker 1: don't know, but okay, that's a little crazy. The two
Speaker 1: inch real I'm talking about yo, listens. Sorry to sound
Speaker 1: like the old hen and the Landies used to have
Speaker 1: a two inch real and you literally could not send
Speaker 1: a verse like Buster RBS do a verse. Nobs is
Speaker 1: doing the first for you have to come to your
Speaker 1: studio because in order not on even that, in order
Speaker 1: to punch in that they would they would literally have
Speaker 1: to put tape on the actual ship, like you have
Speaker 1: to cut tape. Yeah, cut the tape that sorry. Look
Speaker 1: at these guys, these guys like this, they make a
Speaker 1: record in two minutes. Hey, I'm looking like fun. Took
Speaker 1: us hours like just to just to track the beat. Remember,
Speaker 1: they had to track out the soul. Sorry, but the
Speaker 1: sounds like what you're saying that warms. You can't get it,
Speaker 1: especially for the drums. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: used to we call the drums an analog and everything
Speaker 1: else did here. And when I record or make beats
Speaker 1: for aftermfractive things, I would record my drums too much
Speaker 1: reels analog and all it sounds keep makingthing. Wow, that's crazy. Goddamn,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. At one point you started to become a
Speaker 1: part of your project. He was laying versus you. I
Speaker 1: think people had a singing album or something and you
Speaker 1: were singing, awesome ship. It was Blanket Jackson. That okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And so you know, you go back to the incredible name.
Speaker 1: You go back to the Michael Jackson song when it
Speaker 1: was like the kid ain't mine. That was me. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're the kid. Yeah, that was you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: checking the mail Michael Jackson. So you know that's Blakey
Speaker 1: Jackson is Oh, I get it, Jackson even get the
Speaker 1: Jackson just speaking all of us. Name is Jackson somewhere,
Speaker 1: you know what, Let's find out he really is the kid.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. When it came actually came on the mix, sape.
Speaker 1: I think when the goomi at one point five, I
Speaker 1: just did a fucking uh uh skit. I'm like with
Speaker 1: the auto tune, fucking around like Blake could he used
Speaker 1: to being honey out and blue and red star, blue
Speaker 1: red Staux. Know what blue red Staux? The pills? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I know some of the drink blue red stalls.
Speaker 1: Like where was I for that one? Okay? I was
Speaker 1: here for the pills. Still over the pills. I speak
Speaker 1: up front with our fans over right, It's okay, he pills.
Speaker 1: Here's something the pills. So this guy all right, so
Speaker 1: me Max Frend's reasonly fucked up. So that's how you
Speaker 1: made music with a pill? Put the guyline on it
Speaker 1: only want to get to the point already. I can
Speaker 1: tell you I did the skit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's like to turn the tune on. Fuck it,
Speaker 1: Blanket Blanket Jackson of all those Michael Michael Jackson hit
Speaker 1: right now, like yo, that's dope. The skits aw going crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, word, put a beat on, did that on
Speaker 1: the beat, put another one on. She just saw the
Speaker 1: catching and saw the catching. That did the mixtape Ship
Speaker 1: Club Music, which is all blanket featuring increase featuring yourself.
Speaker 1: Well not really. Yeah, there's a couple of over there.
Speaker 1: Sorry to be bouncing around, but listen, right when we
Speaker 1: interview people, we want to listen to their catalog or
Speaker 1: the ship. So we come here earlier. I can't here
Speaker 1: way too early today. I don't know why I was
Speaker 1: here before. Everybody like there wasn't even a thing right here,
Speaker 1: Like he was just here, the lady said. The lady
Speaker 1: looked at me and said, norm me, like you never
Speaker 1: hear at this time anyway. So that was a great
Speaker 1: thing because I could go through your catalog. But pause,
Speaker 1: you really have how many songs to have to record?
Speaker 1: Like you really, Paul, I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: you have a long ass catalog like like you know,
Speaker 1: pauls like that's like you said, three thousand songs made
Speaker 1: a pride over gaggerated or probably around there. You just
Speaker 1: try to get nine the County Ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it's like the school of Tupacat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. You wish Big would have cranked
Speaker 1: out more records, because you're telling from me, Big had
Speaker 1: one beat of mind. He was writing to one beat
Speaker 1: and Puff now Puff wild into action. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know Puff Puff is super regular in the studio, boxing
Speaker 1: basketball shorts or whatever. He's a hut Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: know that puff though, all right, I'm just you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was like, your big right to this joint, crease,
Speaker 1: let me take your the room. And that's the only
Speaker 1: one time I met Bigger Stark here at the La Moon.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you made this, like yeah, killless dope
Speaker 1: and this is this is very to die big or
Speaker 1: this is life after that band, that double album Big, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's after death. You know. I had to maintain my excitement.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, dope in my head, like, oh I'm
Speaker 1: about to get a big record. It was the beat
Speaker 1: was crazy. I don't even got any more. Who was somebody?
Speaker 1: You did? You did you would like to work with?
Speaker 1: I just broke with Snoop. I always like Snoop, never
Speaker 1: work with Snoop. I never walk Stoop because I like
Speaker 1: I like, I like artists with their own character personality.
Speaker 1: How about Buster? How about from Wow? No, I never
Speaker 1: work with Bust. That's what you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's just you know what I'm saying. I don't like
Speaker 1: to work with artists sounds like other people. I can't
Speaker 1: do that. Oh yeah, you can't work with nobody new
Speaker 1: right now? That for the Meals is the folks you're
Speaker 1: working with the Meals recently? No, no, I will Okay,
Speaker 1: they're original to me, like the New Ways, Yeah to me.
Speaker 1: To me, there the original of that style. Now there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who silite the Megals, but to
Speaker 1: be hands down the Megs, and you know, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like their tightness, like you know, like the fact
Speaker 1: that the Locks because you know all these years and
Speaker 1: her styles p this Jada. I've never heard Jada this year.
Speaker 1: And I've never heard Offset just take off and take
Speaker 1: off this on Crabo. I've never heard that. And they
Speaker 1: actually seemed tighter now that they had like a discrepancy
Speaker 1: with their label like I think they had they they had.
Speaker 1: They're going through their bad way. Yeah, that bad way
Speaker 1: moment where how the Locks went through their moment with
Speaker 1: bad Boy, and I think they're going through that. Hope
Speaker 1: hopefully all that works out, but um, it actually makes
Speaker 1: me say, damn, I fount with him even more, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I seem to be the
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Awards, which is right, you're walking through the melet's
Speaker 1: walk through it. Um, what's CARDI b Manum? It was
Speaker 1: something I was like, oh Ship, I even know what
Speaker 1: you think? You know me, I'm like, oh Ship, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're cool and I think, um their music
Speaker 1: and I think they still the text of time and
Speaker 1: I actually think they legends. Man, so you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Step so um boom doing all this? Um,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Way for a minute.
Speaker 1: It's the way even something that Max be created. And
Speaker 1: there's something that Max we created. Okay, yes, but I
Speaker 1: just came on and made it more. Yeah, okay, you
Speaker 1: know more. What do you think when you hear people
Speaker 1: use the way? There's a lot of people, know, it's
Speaker 1: a lot you know what I'm saying. Um, it's just
Speaker 1: unfortunately that he got locked up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Did he patting the word? Not quite, not that I
Speaker 1: know of. I don't don't quote me like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but not that I know of. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that I would have patting the
Speaker 1: worst slie. Come on, he would have pat. I was
Speaker 1: the first one to say slie and it's not and
Speaker 1: it's not guy. Yeah, it wasn't no gang ship and
Speaker 1: that it was a simple. My friend went to the
Speaker 1: store asked me, I want a piece of his sanwards.
Speaker 1: I said no. When he came back with sandwich, was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: let's look good because he said it's pepper so I
Speaker 1: thought it was pepper, pepperoni. Pepper and pepperoni sounds like
Speaker 1: same to me too much. I thought it was pork.
Speaker 1: When I came back and it wasn't pork, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: should give me a piece and it was like that.
Speaker 1: He said slime. It's no, no, no crazy ship to it.
Speaker 1: We put it on records. He put it on and um.
Speaker 1: I actually spoke to uh Young Doug the other day.
Speaker 1: I was actually after we finished Belly interview, I was
Speaker 1: with Cash Belly's manager and he faced time Young Thug
Speaker 1: and we talked about the Slime situation. I was gonna
Speaker 1: come on the show. He's like, I gotten, and I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I like I like the coach side of
Speaker 1: the new generation. Some of them don't don't know the school.
Speaker 1: You can't be bad at somebody for not knowing. But
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you there's people out there that have
Speaker 1: like wave cemeteries and wave uh the wave the farm
Speaker 1: and the wave crew like like like not the way
Speaker 1: the wave the wave every implement of now right from
Speaker 1: even that's it's wavy like down with that a little
Speaker 1: too little baby actually saying wave. So um, Drake Travis Scott,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think Drake, shout it out,
Speaker 1: Quabo the wave everything the culture at the point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's what it is, you know, like max Is is
Speaker 1: a real part of right now culture. You got to
Speaker 1: think about it, like, um, two thousand and seven, he
Speaker 1: got locked in two thousand nine. How long he's been
Speaker 1: in jail right now? Two thousand nine? Twelve? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't count the right twelve, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let me shout at the max. So the sunny Fire
Speaker 1: years got chopped down fifteen. He's been in there twelve,
Speaker 1: So that means three years from now he should be
Speaker 1: all right and he might get a couple years back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Okay, now, let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I want to need the honesty, grease, that's all I am, Leo.
Speaker 1: I need the honesty. Can't he really survive because listen,
Speaker 1: let's just be clear, and I want to say this
Speaker 1: will all due respect. Yes, I want to say this
Speaker 1: to all do is Shine was the most anticipated New
Speaker 1: York coming back home. He it was like he lost
Speaker 1: the step. But he must have knew he was going
Speaker 1: to be a political person. Now he in believes being
Speaker 1: the president of some ship. Max, I don't see him
Speaker 1: being the president of nothing. And he come home and
Speaker 1: be the way because part of why Max is the
Speaker 1: wave was he was a step above on fashion. He
Speaker 1: was a step above on all that. Jail naturally puts
Speaker 1: a step put you in a step behind. That's why
Speaker 1: I brung up Side. Yeah, I brung up Shine. I'm
Speaker 1: bring up certain people who did certain amount of time
Speaker 1: like jail puts a little rust on you. But it's
Speaker 1: too much of like like what happened Shot, It was
Speaker 1: too much of the public eye for his first bars
Speaker 1: is not to be looked at. I think it was College.
Speaker 1: I think was DJ College who actually got the first
Speaker 1: show in verse, and I believe he rushed it and
Speaker 1: it just took all the the what a better word,
Speaker 1: the wave away from Shot. It's all the way because
Speaker 1: everyone's like, man, maybe he lost it. Maybe because that's
Speaker 1: really what what's gonna happen with Max? Max? That first
Speaker 1: record that he get on, he gonna have the flaming.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you think that he does. He
Speaker 1: need that time to get that rust off. No, that
Speaker 1: definitely gotta happen. You got Yeah, that's what coach, thin
Speaker 1: didn't come out. You gotta come in and you gotta
Speaker 1: do your push ups. You gotta you might want to
Speaker 1: do it. We gotta do deep research and homework like
Speaker 1: come come on chance and I'm saying, you gotta do
Speaker 1: the right And now that that first record that you
Speaker 1: recalled drops, No, the only gotta we gotta you guys
Speaker 1: to get in and go in and got to know,
Speaker 1: gotta know. And just like it said, the competition on
Speaker 1: the talgets okay, we got the talkets lined up. He's
Speaker 1: definitely no, no, no, no. At this point, he's definitely
Speaker 1: the O g right. Like he went from being a
Speaker 1: little man that was destructed or looked at like he
Speaker 1: was like he's now coming home. There's gonna be like
Speaker 1: I could see there, people are gonna be bowing to him.
Speaker 1: I see these this new degeneration but if he come
Speaker 1: home and one wrong move, yeah, because that they love
Speaker 1: to tell you that it's gonna they pick you up.
Speaker 1: And he comes home and he made one more more move.
Speaker 1: I think that's what this music industry is about. So
Speaker 1: what was you saying? I'm sorry, I feel like a
Speaker 1: na I said, we got um. Yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 1: in and do the training is retraining now? Max always
Speaker 1: got some ship ship ship, but it's beat selection. Is
Speaker 1: these beats and to changeable in compatible with these beats now?
Speaker 1: Or we're just gonna say fun everything, go on your
Speaker 1: own wave. Yeah, that's that's my next question saying or
Speaker 1: different things. See that's what I do. That's actually a
Speaker 1: line up? Was my next question? Your friend, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? What do you do you try to admit
Speaker 1: into today's music? Did you try to do your own?
Speaker 1: Like it's very hard. Ship You can do a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. You create your own, but then you
Speaker 1: start featuring on others to kind of like show that
Speaker 1: you can. All that ship gotta be fired, all of it,
Speaker 1: got it. That's my job as producer. It's a looking
Speaker 1: to all the dimensions and set up and have all
Speaker 1: the dimensions ready. So other producers to hit you and say, yo,
Speaker 1: this is for Max. You could be able to differentiate
Speaker 1: your this beat is not for you. This beat for you.
Speaker 1: You can do know. It would be like, all right,
Speaker 1: this is for two two Max, or this is for
Speaker 1: this Max up. We don't even know yet two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty, what is it? No? No, you come over
Speaker 1: three years so five, but we want the advanced version
Speaker 1: of that. You want to right, I should see I
Speaker 1: am so. But for the most part, you think he
Speaker 1: could come and you think it got it got to be, well,
Speaker 1: well round it training, you know what I'm saying, The
Speaker 1: different things, and it's just something retraining um because he
Speaker 1: always got some ship. He always gotta slick as bar
Speaker 1: and different things and waits to say it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But as far as like you know,
Speaker 1: just watching the whole battlefield, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the different things, because it probably was a couple of
Speaker 1: songs that probably came out and came through and I
Speaker 1: was like, who did that? Who allowed you? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, The different things, like, okay, who allowed that?
Speaker 1: You can't put anything out the same way you feel.
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't put anything out. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of ship going on right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's a lot of repeating ship. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, you know, disrespect to music today
Speaker 1: because I like a lot of it. But if remind
Speaker 1: me of a break a, it's the rhythm. Oh, everything
Speaker 1: is the same rhythm, the rhythm. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What you got the rhythm. But that's what made those
Speaker 1: artists so dope and regga is that gets the same
Speaker 1: near them, but they made a whole So it's like
Speaker 1: it's a little like that. Now, that's what it is. Now,
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you know you catch the rhythm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, I'll be I'll be listening to
Speaker 1: I don't know who who who? Who? Ain't? I just
Speaker 1: I like the rhythm. Now that's my daughter. Who's this?
Speaker 1: I like because that like forty two dog my nephew too.
Speaker 1: He'd be playing all the super gangster like little Dirt,
Speaker 1: Yeah not dirt, going supervio crazy. Now I like about
Speaker 1: them dudes. I just gotta you know, um Dirk ship chump,
Speaker 1: he was hitting and then I guess you's just said nah,
Speaker 1: I could be a super so I'm going superstar and
Speaker 1: he went superstar. Now I felt like that Drake record
Speaker 1: was what him there and he was already becoming the superstar.
Speaker 1: But I think I think that was like the ultimate
Speaker 1: push that made him let me, let me bounce around.
Speaker 1: You know, you was around where a friends they beating
Speaker 1: with dip set, they beef in and now French and
Speaker 1: and and Jimmy squashed the beef. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about that? That's different? Okay, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's um like I said, and even with Max and Jim,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say, I'm not gonna say, Jim Joan,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that ship. You know what I'm saying. Max,
Speaker 1: you know, And even that's what I always say to
Speaker 1: come up DVD because you know, as journalist, Doky Diamonds like, yeah, Nigel,
Speaker 1: you know Max here, I'm just when the dogs like,
Speaker 1: so Greese, what's you think? Okay, Max Crease, don't think nothing.
Speaker 1: He got nothing to do with this. This is me
Speaker 1: so because you're not pulling me into all that political
Speaker 1: ship because I mean, technically I know Jim first, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's Cam. You know, we all came out Mason Cameron.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, was going and Jim was
Speaker 1: holding Cam down. Jim would get jumped by twenty motherfucker's
Speaker 1: the holders man down, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you know he was holding this man down. So we
Speaker 1: knew Jim as holding his man down. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, different ship. So, um, when it comes to
Speaker 1: the maxif front, the maximum Jim Jones ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it definitely wasn't for me to jump
Speaker 1: in a cause i'mone for the protection around Max. Make
Speaker 1: sure he's straighten. Ain't nobody, ain't no where. Phone calls
Speaker 1: like they used to come through through the hotline, Yo,
Speaker 1: twenties came through the seat. Twenties came through and yet
Speaker 1: turn the cameral I saw you got god this ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, just certain different things. And and then
Speaker 1: um see French is after we got off the mix
Speaker 1: tape wave and different things. French came entirely politally clear, correct,
Speaker 1: because I mean he knew on the gang banging side
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be the French that he is now.
Speaker 1: Almost pops off French, so he know that he had
Speaker 1: to clean up a few ships and not funk with
Speaker 1: too many of the goon's to get to where he
Speaker 1: needed to be. Right, So you know, boom for Max
Speaker 1: and us working together to Waka Flocker and Guci Man.
Speaker 1: But we all heard the Gucci Man story. But Waker then,
Speaker 1: um the Rick Rossa Piti Puff Daddy sonomy too. You
Speaker 1: know where you got to go to Drake different things.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that just you know, position himself,
Speaker 1: French and small MOUs, you know, position himself and to
Speaker 1: get to where he needed to be at now you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Internationally, French, Montin and Danny put
Speaker 1: out that fucking unforgettable wind right, But what did you
Speaker 1: feel when um they said that they squashed the beat?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't. I didn't. I didn't feeling anything. I
Speaker 1: didn't fit anything. Like you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know what French is doing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they'd be different and different ships. You know what I'm saying, Like, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we've we've been out there. We know
Speaker 1: what it's really out there, we know what the codes are,
Speaker 1: we know what it is. But nowadays, because it's the
Speaker 1: only thing is out there, like that everybody else is
Speaker 1: on some whole other shops like, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: go home. I'm going home. I thought it was still
Speaker 1: because there's one thing for them to squash it, but
Speaker 1: there's another thing for them to get in each other's records,
Speaker 1: film videos together. I think one of them they was
Speaker 1: in l A. The next one they were in New
Speaker 1: York and I think they shut down the highway. I
Speaker 1: thought that was dope because if people put energy into beating,
Speaker 1: you should put energy and like squashing and moving on,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So you we thought
Speaker 1: Max and Jim was gonna be squash, but Jim ain't.
Speaker 1: He ain't so even with the even women. I think
Speaker 1: French he said something I think on Angie he's trying to, Okay,
Speaker 1: do what he's trying to do. But like after the
Speaker 1: French and Gym ship a right, Jim cool, French cool.
Speaker 1: And let me just say I saw some of that
Speaker 1: Angie Martinez interview with French want talent. You know she's
Speaker 1: still is a goat, yo know, she is still as
Speaker 1: yo bro. She hasn't lost a step at all. And hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going into watching it like you know, being a
Speaker 1: little cocky like, you know, let me see what she
Speaker 1: could do, and I'm like, yo, she's still like the goal.
Speaker 1: So Angie, just in case you know, I bowed down
Speaker 1: just watching a little piec Still, Angie, I ain't ain't
Speaker 1: getting to finish watching the whole interview. So um, so,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite part of the game. Is it making
Speaker 1: the record or performing the record? I'm reducing I'm nothing
Speaker 1: being performed though, Bingo, Okay, that's your favorite. Dog. I
Speaker 1: didn't go on the first tours. I mean I was
Speaker 1: in the city with you. Okay, what I'm saying hard
Speaker 1: knock life, the hard knock, but the survival, the Elston
Speaker 1: cash money to all that. I didn't go. I didn't
Speaker 1: go on the tours, so you didn't see how your
Speaker 1: records was reacted in stadiums. Not the dog had the
Speaker 1: world tour. Causso signed me dog, signed me up the world.
Speaker 1: You got to go back to it. Becuzzo signed me up, Dog,
Speaker 1: sign me up. I'm a innomate to your niggas once again,
Speaker 1: be Cauz signed me up. Don't you gotta Tonics? Five times?
Speaker 1: So they are like, did you put on the alright? Cool,
Speaker 1: I'm on the now overseas different speaking everywhere. Man. We
Speaker 1: did about five shows in Germany. Pezzle, I don't know. Sorry, No,
Speaker 1: he's the ambassador. I love I love door, but I
Speaker 1: want to see if my own hood Shepherd's Bush in London? What? Okay?
Speaker 1: Where else? Germany? Else where? H everywhere Belgium, Germany and Insterdam, Switzerland. Um,
Speaker 1: now I ain't gonna get to the last show. For
Speaker 1: the last show, all these faces went crazy. I keep
Speaker 1: forgetting that y'all call him because it always I'm always
Speaker 1: two steps behind y'all. That's for Kiyo. That's what I know.
Speaker 1: That's a show almost chopped all the up now it
Speaker 1: was after him. He was a negotiation person. Negotiation so
Speaker 1: era like beating Persian. Yeah, you know the crazy ship
Speaker 1: when I saw a dog on it. Then he said
Speaker 1: the story it's the same as I can show. I'm like, yep,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. We had to call embassy, get down, then
Speaker 1: jump on the trucks, sip out. They came. They speak Portuguese,
Speaker 1: they were and he say NonStop cock. He can't speaks
Speaker 1: he speaks Spanish right, but kept some words. You know
Speaker 1: what that's that's It's like, it's like, um, that's what brazilla.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, okay and yeah yeah, but he no stopped
Speaker 1: heard the keyword. See, I'll let you know. He's doing
Speaker 1: the role man. Everything is straight, everything's fine, and Non
Speaker 1: saw him like, no, it's not. He said, y'all got
Speaker 1: a problem if y'all try to leave. No, I stopped
Speaker 1: heard that. Whatever fucking language was, you know, it was
Speaker 1: comes of job. Everything it's gonna be cool, everything's good,
Speaker 1: everything's straight. The words gonna very optimistic. Never I learned
Speaker 1: the artist. The artists think everything that. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know we're like, oh, ship all right, and now I
Speaker 1: ain't got I got a good mcgavaman. It just won't kicking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I take the button knife poked him
Speaker 1: one soldier in the hallway, but get out the country
Speaker 1: then not the way he just said soldier. So you're
Speaker 1: fighting against them. Don't even like police. The police know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, like, you know, get to boom one,
Speaker 1: grab the joint. You know, got a little trick, put
Speaker 1: the finger behind the trigger, so I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: boom and poked them up and you know it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's moved the cornback. But then boom, take that, get
Speaker 1: in the car, drive and then the thort process stopped.
Speaker 1: There is we going yea Africa? Yeah, we we're gonna
Speaker 1: drive to the jungle next. What we had to call
Speaker 1: the police? The U s SIMPAC. Don't say the police.
Speaker 1: That's what everybody is happy to be from the unit.
Speaker 1: I never like got from Hollm. You're Americans. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it means you used to go places like Brooklyns, like
Speaker 1: world up. You can't do that in Africa. I think
Speaker 1: even those dudes in the assassinated the president got pulled
Speaker 1: out by the U s MBAs. The Dosian Americans that
Speaker 1: were part of that creaty, they got pulled out by
Speaker 1: the being pulled out. They were part of that Colombian
Speaker 1: hit squad and what they was locked up. Yeah, imagine
Speaker 1: they killed the president. Everybody said that the U SMBC
Speaker 1: pulled the two Haitian because they're Americans. They pulled them out,
Speaker 1: pulled them out, while the Colombians are getting tortured for information.
Speaker 1: So what they allegedly to obey time. It's Haiti bro,
Speaker 1: it's not Cuba do I'm talking about what they said
Speaker 1: the Americans, though you said they is Haitian. But they Americans.
Speaker 1: You don't know what happened in Haiti? Yes, to kill
Speaker 1: the president, right, so do Haitian Americans went in with
Speaker 1: the Colombians, Okay, to do so? America grabbed the two.
Speaker 1: They cut the Haitians. They caught them. They're doing with them. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They just the only one baby, they
Speaker 1: know not why they're back in US. That's the US.
Speaker 1: So where they got him? Know what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: They I don't even know if they're in trouble like
Speaker 1: that for killing the resident. They didn't leave them in
Speaker 1: Haiti while the other ones are in Haiti under in custody.
Speaker 1: The American with them. I don't know why would they
Speaker 1: would have left them there? Though. What I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is ultimately, like if the U. S Embassy saved
Speaker 1: you guys. The Colombians are getting tortured over there, allegedly
Speaker 1: and Hatie, Yeah, because they're trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: they They got military, they got really Haitian man's stopping
Speaker 1: this man stop anyway, they got pulled out, they got
Speaker 1: the US hooked them up. At least they're not getting torture.
Speaker 1: They might be locked up here, but they're not tortured
Speaker 1: in Haiti right now, so that I was just playing
Speaker 1: around around kid, But what then is happening with Cuba?
Speaker 1: What is that mean? Yeah, it's I mean, we don't
Speaker 1: know when this is going to come out, but it's
Speaker 1: the first time since the revolution that the entire island
Speaker 1: rose up against the government. So if they can. It's
Speaker 1: led by artists, by hip hop artists, by by urban
Speaker 1: street you know, you like, the artists are the ones
Speaker 1: that led the movement. Yeah, against the government, against the government.
Speaker 1: Everybody rolls up against the government. And right now, because
Speaker 1: I'm talking to people directly on the island, they're literally
Speaker 1: going house to house pulling out people who are riding,
Speaker 1: people who are part of the their protesting, I mean
Speaker 1: writing someplaces protest like anything else. And they're pulling them
Speaker 1: out and they disappearing, not not the saying they're dying,
Speaker 1: but they're they're disappearing. Then they're putting them locking them up. Huh.
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of artists. The artists were the
Speaker 1: first waiver. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Because
Speaker 1: my homegirl from the movie Coming Home, the Nice Water
Speaker 1: she's lived, she lives in Cuba. Right, she's the one
Speaker 1: communicating with me, one of the people. Yeah, God, bless God,
Speaker 1: bless anybody happy to be American now, kid, Yeah, it's always.
Speaker 1: It's always. Hey man, you could be a patriot and
Speaker 1: still want your country to be better. That's what That's
Speaker 1: what it's like. How better ship do you want? You want?
Speaker 1: Horseshit bullshit? When you travel overseas as American, you realize, Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to go back home. Y different, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's that's the reality. And tell
Speaker 1: mcaveman didn't kick in, and that's the Mike Tysons after
Speaker 1: you got in your ship. Yeah, okay, let's look at
Speaker 1: the one of my ideas. I go, you see the
Speaker 1: movie Hangover with Mikes, Like, that's it taken off, like
Speaker 1: you're getta knockba. Have you ever seen Mike because you
Speaker 1: had it? You have you ever seen Mike said you
Speaker 1: you had the tattoo? Ain't seen I know Mike too, Remember, okay,
Speaker 1: but what if you're seeing me but he's take that
Speaker 1: then you're just imagine like that because I'm scared of
Speaker 1: devil Mike. Right, It's just like it was pretty scary man,
Speaker 1: Like he was being nice. It's a very intimidating. What
Speaker 1: I don't know about what you have a gun on
Speaker 1: you And I'm still scared of Mike, like you people
Speaker 1: talking you up. We met a couple of times, like
Speaker 1: a shoppers whistle, like I'm at a one time on
Speaker 1: the Swift's like Greece. You said Mike is soft and swift.
Speaker 1: You know that that It was like Mike peace gree
Speaker 1: Boom bang bang. There was a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, michaelsoft Greece. They thinking crease know, like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, shop you know, but you
Speaker 1: said if you missed, you know, like he was with
Speaker 1: a guy. You just I'm just saying, I'm just giving
Speaker 1: you us that, like Mike is a scary Mike man,
Speaker 1: Mike is one of us. Yeah, beautiful warrior. Yeah what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like you know, we all come from.
Speaker 1: But you see what he had. Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a different Mike right there. Yeah he was rubbing up
Speaker 1: to Mike. Mike. Yeah, he went back that ship right then.
Speaker 1: That ship, that ship was some piece of warrior Mike
Speaker 1: and Mike. Mike, because you gotta like you gotta thick
Speaker 1: real fast. Once Mike tell you something back ship y'all
Speaker 1: in the room like this you other things you gotta
Speaker 1: get Cafoe, I don't get what do you think you're game?
Speaker 1: And was like, come on man, little straight guy gets
Speaker 1: asked that ever ever, so if you're getting asked that,
Speaker 1: you know this ain't good. Not good. I don't give
Speaker 1: any world safe with mask. When you see a man
Speaker 1: that's in you say so you get. Your first reaction
Speaker 1: first off is to act what the fun you're talking
Speaker 1: to Mike, thinking of the fun you're talking about, homie
Speaker 1: that ain't happening. Holmies outside your homies is taking of
Speaker 1: my whole lot. I'm not running your holmies a second,
Speaker 1: your niggas. You laugh, then outside the room like I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I'm running in Mike stars mikey, you
Speaker 1: signed a waiver to go into that room. I feel
Speaker 1: I didn't read it, but it seemed like he said,
Speaker 1: if you get sunked up, it's on you. I'll try
Speaker 1: to want me because I was late to the interview
Speaker 1: and he's like, none, that signed, we gotta sign with us.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about that talking no, no, no, that's Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike is a different type of dude. So who who who?
Speaker 1: We asked who you would want to work with? What's
Speaker 1: your favorite artists to collaborate with? No? As I worked,
Speaker 1: as you work, Who who's your favorite that you worked with? Um?
Speaker 1: Who's easiest to work with? Favorite or both easiest? No? No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: but no, I mean nothing was wrong. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: get on superdu But like, um no, like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie like I ain't wanna. I'm a
Speaker 1: street nigger, you know what I'm saying. So it ain't
Speaker 1: it ain't really much that's gonna like throw me. I
Speaker 1: mean I grew up with all the creepy Crawleys. I know,
Speaker 1: the creepy colies. So it's like says unique work unique,
Speaker 1: that's good work work unique. Dirt who dirt ol dirty
Speaker 1: bastard or dirty bast Yeah okay, cool, I'd like that
Speaker 1: you call him Dirk. I love I love my guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Dirt work work together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we um rush out of soundtrack. We didn't. You don't stop.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. To record on that first
Speaker 1: of it was just me and dirty and said, well
Speaker 1: him rapping me during the beat and then they put
Speaker 1: the whole War and that's back then, and then um,
Speaker 1: he need Me did his last his last album, you
Speaker 1: on it, Yeah, I am. I wanted a rail record
Speaker 1: right now when I did I'm onna do I'm on
Speaker 1: one high, don't do what? What? What? Yeah? Okay and
Speaker 1: we can do it like this okay? Hell yeah. That
Speaker 1: was after he got out jail. He was kind of
Speaker 1: probably a little more sedated, you know, saying just ship,
Speaker 1: you know, just you know that means this ship not
Speaker 1: quite the problem. You mean you mean he was like
Speaker 1: to dated like purposely. Yeah, not legally, probably his medication
Speaker 1: from doctor. Ok. I thought he just was different periods naturally,
Speaker 1: but you mean like he was you know. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: he did his last album with Studio Upstate, and you
Speaker 1: know he was he just was blank like I known
Speaker 1: him already. Like I said, he did the Rushack Russia
Speaker 1: soundtrack back then, and it was like right before he
Speaker 1: passed away, and Ship, you know what I'm saying, he
Speaker 1: was just like cool hill, quiet dirt, like paled up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but legally medication not nothing else. I used
Speaker 1: to talk with my mouth never moved. Did you know
Speaker 1: of my mom? I was saying something, but my mouth
Speaker 1: didn't move. It was just like probably saying that seems
Speaker 1: like when I was in jail. So my mother came
Speaker 1: to see him. Look like, that's what they put me
Speaker 1: on this I was. I was getting in trouble too
Speaker 1: much as they hit me with that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um so you know he was in
Speaker 1: there and ship, so he just cried Dirt was good,
Speaker 1: You're good. You know what I'm saying. Because I would
Speaker 1: rent the front studio room out, it was only two
Speaker 1: things that I was getting his reaction. It was my
Speaker 1: man wife Sean. I'll be like, you're like, yo, what
Speaker 1: sun I said? Dirt? Yeah, I'm like dirt. He was
Speaker 1: a double backer, you know what I'm saying. It was like,
Speaker 1: all right, gem that gets to kick in like that.
Speaker 1: But you know she was a gangslation cool boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: And then I think I was making um the move
Speaker 1: backbeat that he jumped on the remix and that ship
Speaker 1: woke them out of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was in the other room, huh huh, and I
Speaker 1: just saw the door creep over real slow. You peeked
Speaker 1: in yo, gee, you worked the ship out that try
Speaker 1: yea yo, you worked that Yo, that's dope, NIGGI you
Speaker 1: want to get on it? Yeah, fifteen minutes. Brother, First
Speaker 1: he was bad, you know what I'm saying, and did
Speaker 1: um the whole I think the albums for land Speed
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, you did it and ship? Okay? No,
Speaker 1: well grease do versus? Huh will grease do versus? I've
Speaker 1: done versus? No, you didn't do versus? What are you talking? Right? No?
Speaker 1: Two thousands bad like versus versus. Not that type of
Speaker 1: versus horses versus. No, No, we know you not that
Speaker 1: we know, but do so on that? But battle, um,
Speaker 1: what you want about it? If you if you had
Speaker 1: a choice, it came to you. The price was right,
Speaker 1: time was right, the venue. I don't know from what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing been lately. Okay, yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: because like this this this Cameron ain't coming out for
Speaker 1: less a check. So trust man can don't move, he don't,
Speaker 1: He'll leave his driveway in the count. So um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man. I would really say, you know what
Speaker 1: if you could just sid' doing one. Let's just say
Speaker 1: you did consider doing one. Who did you want to battle.
Speaker 1: It's kind of bank. No, that's so bro, but it's
Speaker 1: it could be like yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all right, what you would want to hear that ship
Speaker 1: against yours? U p K E L. I don't dispect
Speaker 1: to come about cheese what I'm saying. But just far
Speaker 1: as the colorfulness of catalog, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's a difference. You know, I spent my career making
Speaker 1: a colorful catalog and taking chances of risk with other
Speaker 1: people like you do hate that. Shoot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm trying to get to ten thousand, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I used to hust
Speaker 1: only job I have with something crack been doing music,
Speaker 1: so not an add a gram up when it was
Speaker 1: yeah that was so. Who do you think if they
Speaker 1: came to you? Right? I don't know who would you
Speaker 1: think I'm thinking right now? Because his mainstream hits there's
Speaker 1: on the ground spectaculars. Yeah, but it's twenty it'sut is
Speaker 1: just fucking you know what I'm saying. All around hip
Speaker 1: hop classics, I think I got a perfect one. I
Speaker 1: think ALCMS would be a good matchup. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that, But you know I was taking the
Speaker 1: Coast to coast battle cattle Cat. He's fire, he's five.
Speaker 1: But come on, they've gotta be a wh who've done
Speaker 1: a record that you said? Damn, I wish I would
Speaker 1: have produced. They never like for producing if we're only
Speaker 1: coming out the house though now he's not coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even thinking now, but producer, I like, actually,
Speaker 1: I mean it might be shocking. I like all Kelley's
Speaker 1: producer Kelly as a producer. We gotta relax what we
Speaker 1: say saying I wanted to sound kind of crazy Kelly
Speaker 1: as a producer. So you want to do you want
Speaker 1: to bat r Kelly and versus I'm not bad at
Speaker 1: all Kelly at all. He wants like all of them
Speaker 1: joints the producer Kelly. I read the credits. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: his publishing is crazy then, I mean or scoff I
Speaker 1: didn't know Scoffs was producing all the back that he
Speaker 1: was on faces in my studio playing Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's crazy like that. He's crazy like that. Damn. Let's
Speaker 1: let's look. I would say p K two, but that's
Speaker 1: like too much. Yeah, it's it's it's family and not
Speaker 1: just you know, discredit anything, but you know, mostly PK
Speaker 1: joints is just for excellent locks. They fire one so
Speaker 1: that stick out, don't get it twisted producers. Yeah, anybody
Speaker 1: draining around, Yeah, with draining, I might need a bucket.
Speaker 1: I might need a late real quick. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: We're gonna go. We've got bathrooms. Brother, you don't need
Speaker 1: a block. We can take it. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of thought about I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: h get him that credit. That would be a good
Speaker 1: I think that versus would be good right there. That
Speaker 1: the whole Oh, it would be a fun one, not
Speaker 1: shame raw Lawrence would be a fun one, I know,
Speaker 1: trust me. Was only the same studio. I raped a
Speaker 1: whole lot spudget and they were sitting in piss half
Speaker 1: Niggers was like Greece dope all the knicks like what
Speaker 1: this new nigga? Now, you wasn't easy helping down with
Speaker 1: them too. You gotta understand, Like, think about the Mark
Speaker 1: Ride Carvey remix with the locks on it. Think about
Speaker 1: you see all that bad boy that was the puff
Speaker 1: just was on the record and doing that. But there
Speaker 1: was dumb nicks like this and ship had the mixtapes
Speaker 1: on crazy blocks. That's what I'm saying, like crazy and
Speaker 1: it's a different suit, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like like I said, I got mainstream part of my kellogg,
Speaker 1: but most of it and a lot of it is
Speaker 1: street in different things I don't have. I don't have
Speaker 1: uh many critical tracks like that. I got him, you know,
Speaker 1: I got him. We're gonna have to highlight that he's
Speaker 1: not drinking. But he was the first guest ever. Sad
Speaker 1: you gotta bucking around here. I'm just right here, right here.
Speaker 1: He's not drinking us. We got back from brother, we
Speaker 1: got a bathroom budget. I love me ready, but I
Speaker 1: think we haven't stopped. So how about lodge professor? What
Speaker 1: you think about that? Nice? That's a good one. Have
Speaker 1: you ever watch persons? Yeah? Okay, alright, cool? Actually what's
Speaker 1: the last best? I can't wait for the locks? And okay,
Speaker 1: So so pulling this out after this would be out
Speaker 1: part of the week after. So who are you? Who
Speaker 1: are you? Who are you betting on? So? Man, who's
Speaker 1: your money gone? Who taking a shot? Back out? Who're taking?
Speaker 1: Because you got the technical, got the give my homes
Speaker 1: on whatever? Come on to me, like I gonna take
Speaker 1: this shot like I'm technical with it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like now, Cam, he was battling rapid before
Speaker 1: any of us got on, So which is niggas in
Speaker 1: the park, So that means something. And my very first
Speaker 1: single live Alynics, Cam came through Good Morning America and
Speaker 1: he's haul embroid to the same as That's why guy
Speaker 1: got got all right, But my Platinum records and everything
Speaker 1: came from the Locks. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: I went to both both again, I went to Yonkers,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because you know where you from, you a little arrogant.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody else hot in the world? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And then you went to Yonkers like these nickles spent
Speaker 1: my Okay, damn, you know what I'm saying. But I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like the she got the oh in
Speaker 1: the Locks that part of the you, Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't wait either. I was going to try to
Speaker 1: go actually attending the crowd, but I think we got
Speaker 1: three things to do out here that those those two days,
Speaker 1: you know, it's only one day. I think it's agus third, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: my guy trying to get we got August third. Oh
Speaker 1: that's already silk. Oh yeah, so the motherfucker shock he was.
Speaker 1: He's allowed on this holy ship speaking a lot. I know,
Speaker 1: we spoke about a little bit, y'all didn't speak about yacord.
Speaker 1: You know, I never never wanna ended. So but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm live on this okay, because I was like the
Speaker 1: first I'm not supposed to commercial excuse me, compilation album,
Speaker 1: I ever kind of seen like what DJ Klin for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, is doing now. I kind
Speaker 1: of seen you do that first. Like at first, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what the compilation was. When you hit me,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I got to mention in my compilation.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, whatever. I actually technically didn't know
Speaker 1: back then. So when was that? Two? Wow? Wow? All right,
Speaker 1: So what made you want to want to do accompolation?
Speaker 1: The thing was just like um um, I had artists.
Speaker 1: I had artists needed before us at to produced with
Speaker 1: her fathers. You know what I'm saying. There was always
Speaker 1: making a lot, and like I saw that our group,
Speaker 1: like you know, the way we started like you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen and ship and we had our group, and
Speaker 1: then more Niggers came and saw a rapping and I
Speaker 1: made demo group. The more Niggers, I made dem a group,
Speaker 1: and then some of the Niggers viewle was actually getting
Speaker 1: too wild and some of the guys like, yo, you're
Speaker 1: doing too wild much or too wild, and we just
Speaker 1: made them a cool group. So we was actually doing
Speaker 1: a label thing already. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying with no money though, but you know,
Speaker 1: we're just doing crazy saying talent shows and beating everybody down,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know, just New York City. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody better than us. Happen ball fights and ship. But
Speaker 1: it um after like I said, doing X album, locks album,
Speaker 1: different things and ship and I'm like, all right, put
Speaker 1: the album out. I'm not a rapper, so what the
Speaker 1: funk I'm gonna do. Like you know, I actually did
Speaker 1: rapping one song, but I was just working. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, all right, let me just
Speaker 1: call anybody up and me hit up. I think he
Speaker 1: was just coming up body in the Trump and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that was going I hit you up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Um, yeah, find him chapped
Speaker 1: on there with you. Um, I think I did ghetto
Speaker 1: presses for now It's around the same time. So I
Speaker 1: hit him up. He came there, want to play rough
Speaker 1: um Scarface even notice I picked him. It was always
Speaker 1: one of my favorite, my favorite artists, hit Face up. Um.
Speaker 1: I did my my deal as a joint venture with
Speaker 1: Promity because I didn't want to sign directly to the
Speaker 1: labels because I was getting checks from the labels average
Speaker 1: the bad Boy. I'm in the whole death Chain building
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I love what Master p door. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. One of my ideas as far
Speaker 1: as like all right, come on, we're gonna do this ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was actually following
Speaker 1: master Pace steps, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: went to Priority out West different things, and no limit
Speaker 1: was on there. And when I got to the building,
Speaker 1: that's for me and p Man and he was getting
Speaker 1: me all type of points this ship. And in fact,
Speaker 1: real story, Andrew Shack was the president one time. I
Speaker 1: remember flying out Thicks. I'm like, niggas is playing games
Speaker 1: with letting the budget loose and ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was smart because I wanted to
Speaker 1: wile out, but I know my wile out in the backseats,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, fuck pist off,
Speaker 1: huffing the puff around the office. People like, yo, let
Speaker 1: me say you how to do this ship boot kick
Speaker 1: the doorp in Jo Shock, my man got something to say.
Speaker 1: And you're sitting there with all my apps and ship
Speaker 1: apps like Andrew Shock was like, oh you were him.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I'm like, that's how you do it, hey,
Speaker 1: Nickel Freeman, motherfucker budget up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And boom. You know you're not to move around. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, probably to do a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we just saw the making.
Speaker 1: Some things happened. I'm like, Pete, I'm doing an album
Speaker 1: Boom song fourth with some of silk. Let me get silk, Boom,
Speaker 1: you're silk, So going on the joint, don't limit go
Speaker 1: and make a lot, make some noise. That so now
Speaker 1: so now and people see you, they're gonna notice a
Speaker 1: whole dramatic rate change rate laws for you. And you
Speaker 1: first walked in, you told me that you was it.
Speaker 1: You thought you was battling or something, So you want
Speaker 1: to share that with the people now. Actually, um, at
Speaker 1: the operation, actually right after it was on ex funeral.
Speaker 1: It was the Barkley Center, which was like that Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then um that Sunday was the funeral and like
Speaker 1: right after the funeral, had to jump on the hobbics
Speaker 1: out out of our o eraction. The next day, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And Dad to check my chest
Speaker 1: because last year I had a lung infection. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you had to check. People thought it was COVID wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I had to check my chest for you know,
Speaker 1: lung affection to make sure what's the cancers. So you
Speaker 1: know they cutting the po where they put me, sweep,
Speaker 1: cutting neck open, got tissue samples, blood samples, you know,
Speaker 1: all the good ship you know what I'm saying, Boom,
Speaker 1: they'll all in there. So um they checked from the
Speaker 1: cancer but cancer free, nothing in there, you know, God bless.
Speaker 1: And they had because what you said, because you said,
Speaker 1: what was it a dirty level? What was it? I
Speaker 1: had a lung effect affect. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: which you actually had to get a blood clout in
Speaker 1: my life Oh wow, I'm saying, you know, the crazy
Speaker 1: shit this is half while smoking. Everything happened after I
Speaker 1: stopped smoking cigarettes and drinking. Wow, what do you think
Speaker 1: the cause? You know now, I think my body was
Speaker 1: was was used to smoke so many years. Right. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what withdraw cold turkey and I'm
Speaker 1: one of the type of intelligent dickheads. I'm done. That's
Speaker 1: a body said, No, I'm shot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know they tested boom uh. First test came
Speaker 1: back negative. Trying to let it grow for a couple
Speaker 1: of moms. Negative growth for a couple of moments, still negative,
Speaker 1: So cancer free. I'm good, God bless God. So now
Speaker 1: all right, now this is um. I remember getting I
Speaker 1: believe it was a CD huh, And I believe this
Speaker 1: is how it happened. Me and Oas was on the
Speaker 1: way of the studio jungle and the dude was playing
Speaker 1: around with this idea. But we get to the studio.
Speaker 1: I played nos a bunch of beans, then I put
Speaker 1: on the grease beat and I remember us just laying
Speaker 1: this ship in twenty minutes, like no exaggeration. As soon
Speaker 1: as it came on body in the trunk and I
Speaker 1: remember you just giving me the beat tape, and I
Speaker 1: remember me calling you that night and you come into
Speaker 1: the studio, but I never asked you how to How
Speaker 1: did you because I remember you actually said you, I
Speaker 1: think you should make the intro a little longer and
Speaker 1: you have to speak about I think. But I never
Speaker 1: asked you, like how did you feel that night? Like
Speaker 1: because like it wasn't like I called yourself using your beat.
Speaker 1: I just used you. You gave you had to. I
Speaker 1: had to beat tape for a while. As soon as
Speaker 1: Nois heard the beat, we just started writing, like me
Speaker 1: and him like literally didn't even speak to each other.
Speaker 1: It was just like yo, he said, I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this, and we
Speaker 1: did it. So you kind of heard almost complete record
Speaker 1: when you first heard it. Like how did you feel
Speaker 1: like when you when it hit factory? I think it
Speaker 1: was a hit factory over the new hit Factory, not
Speaker 1: the old one. And you came down and how did
Speaker 1: you subscribe? When you walk in the studio, Man, it
Speaker 1: was like y'all understand, like um definitely coming to the game,
Speaker 1: like y'all was in the game like before. So I'm
Speaker 1: a fan already. You know what I'm saying. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of you fan uh Son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And just ship you have said something to me that night.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: your Greece. I feel were going to know what you're
Speaker 1: for a long year anything, anything that's going on. And
Speaker 1: it's been like that. It's been like that ever since
Speaker 1: I was in that clear sound like this thing is magical.
Speaker 1: It's really you know what, this is really my my
Speaker 1: first like really theatrical record. That's why when you said
Speaker 1: Theantrica earlier, Um, it was crazy because I remember that
Speaker 1: was not his only thing I had had. We have
Speaker 1: already had I loved my life, um, and I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna use it with him on there. I
Speaker 1: already had all these other records with him. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's do a concept record. And then this was just
Speaker 1: the perfect record. And to this day that's the most record.
Speaker 1: People always ask me to make a part too, too,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, like without all those
Speaker 1: elements at that time. But but again, like what was
Speaker 1: that moment when you know, because I like cool, you
Speaker 1: know me and you have had a relationship. You had
Speaker 1: gave me a me tape. But this is Nas now
Speaker 1: like like you knows just that bar when you came
Speaker 1: in and you're a complete record with Norria Nas talking
Speaker 1: about body and what was you saying in your mind?
Speaker 1: Now it was fucking magical, Like you understand, Like Norrie Naskarball,
Speaker 1: I'm like niggas on the mat, I'm gonna make a master,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Boom and the right
Speaker 1: to the thing, but the story, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then after that, something's like you got more those
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and that's when we did get a person.
Speaker 1: So that god damn makes a noise that crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know our shows about giving people
Speaker 1: the flower Man giving people, they usually drink at this top.
Speaker 1: But I figured, you know what, if you ain't drinking,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guy out it out with you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's what reason want to drink.
Speaker 1: But I see you got the flowers sweater. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's he's a butterinos. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, come on, got that made even But
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something for real, because you
Speaker 1: know I usually do this while I'm taking shots at whatever,
Speaker 1: but I figured, you know, you ain't drinking. I ain't
Speaker 1: wanna um uh you know you know what? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: So I want to tell you to your face. Man,
Speaker 1: you're a legend. You're a guy that you know, you
Speaker 1: in every different era. You're a guy that gets props
Speaker 1: and in most places. But I want you to get
Speaker 1: more props. You know what I'm saying, because you really
Speaker 1: deserve that. Really a great guy, you really, um you know,
Speaker 1: you're really made a real staple in this game. And
Speaker 1: in case people didn't know that pace, nobody didn't tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that to your face. I wanna
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm drunk. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And you deserve your flowers.
Speaker 1: You're a real good guy. You're one of the greatest
Speaker 1: producers of all time, and we wanted to get so
Speaker 1: we're going, we're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just
Speaker 1: do the picture and then you gotta do some drops.
Speaker 1: All right. Cool again. Thanks for joining us for another
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