WEBVTT - Episode 275 w/ Dame Grease 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.520 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:17.200 and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas motherfucking podcast. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.680 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.159 Boy in No R He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.720 is d J e f N. Together they drink it 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.600 up with some of the biggest players in the most 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:35.240 professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sorts for drunk 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:40.600 drink is New year Z. That's time for Drink Champs. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:50.000 Drink up for the would it could be hopeully' would 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.600 see me? It's your boy and what up is d 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.160 J e f N And it's drink Chance. Motherfucker Yapia 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:02.000 makes up now the sky here has been putting in 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:07.240 a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous amount of work. I always say 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.000 he doesn't get the credit he deserves, but from the streets, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.679 he does get the credit he deserves. The streets recognize them. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.080 They recognized for the brilliance that he's been a part of. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:24.160 Phenomenal people's career is like the late, great legendary DMX. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:30.080 I believe he created the wave as well. Uh, he 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.560 definitely smokes our these doesn't caught the body with me 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.240 and we threw the body in the drunk uh form 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.760 likes of Cameron to Mace to or whatever, baking a 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.679 lot of music. You know in the nineties when you 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.280 were out that ship meant something. That ship was it was. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.920 It was an error. And then for him to keep going, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.360 him to still be here, still be the person that 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.240 he has he is. We are gonna get all in 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.720 his business today. We're gonna ask about anything, you know 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.240 what I'm mean, from the wave to whatever whatever to 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.560 And in case you don't know who we talked about, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:12.120 we talked about motherfucking Dame. Now let's take it from 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.480 the beginning, because when we first get at Me Dogs, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.120 is you produce get at Me Dog? Yeah? Okay, okay, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.720 So for the first time we've seen DMX get at 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:29.960 Me Dog. You described describe that situation, um, but actually 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.160 kind of go back a little bit. Okay, Um, Mary 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:38.080 had told Puff about the locks. Okay, you know what 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.320 I'm saying. That's when the Locks got signed a bad 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:44.160 boy and me and Mace came from from from Hall 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.919 up to Yonkers because why I kept trying to get 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.520 me with my beats up to Yonkers for the Locks 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.679 of Excellent ship, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.320 boom they got signed. And then I saw him. He 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.160 was like the young Niggers and bad Boy running around 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.760 and Big was like in the next room. He was 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:10.799 doing this one to Ductor who you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.680 you know what I'm saying. So he like, you know, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.280 he was, you know, locks just got signed. He's just 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.480 got signed. Dog was running them around like he always said, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.280 robbing with the dog. You know what I'm saying. That ship. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.640 So um, we was like we was young and a 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.440 puffers dick in the beach, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.920 So um, we was in there locks to the joint 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.280 with Big with Biggie, you know what I'm saying. And 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.600 he was like, oh, we're getting close, We're getting close. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.880 And then um, I think Pocket put Off hit him 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.040 up and we was just fun. It's like, oh fuck, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.320 he was in bad Boy. Studios were saying yeah man, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:51.160 Like he was like, damn man, we ain't gonna make it. Yeah. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.360 But it was the older Jeeves, you know, and you 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.520 know all the Brooklyn you know what I'm saying. So 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.560 they was all we was like the little niggas like 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.600 now you know what I'm saying. But we actually happened 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.000 to fly out there with them and ship um when 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.080 Big I did get killed, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.600 CALLI you know, and when we came back, that's when 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.760 we maybe always a love Bi Papa, you know what 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.080 I'm saying. We had did the record first and then um, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.320 we was like, we can't put this out. We don't want, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.360 you know, for the family think we try to monopolize 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.719 on trash situation. So we gave the record of Pup first, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.120 you know what I'm saying, and it was like that 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.400 we always loved Big Papa Papa. Then Puff heard it 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.960 and ship him and on there was crying. It was like, yo, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.720 thank you, okay, people do so I love Big That 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.640 was my ready first record. Let's make some choice for 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:48.240 that because at the time we heard it at Me Dog, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.680 it was so much of a new sound, so much 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.520 of a new style, right that I thought that that 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.520 was your first record that I've been used before. It's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:01.920 used season what I'm saying, Yeah, you know so, um, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:07.880 all right, all right, um this record get at Me Dog? 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:13.600 You produced it. Yes, you noticed as a monster. Yeah, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.159 now because I don't tell you. I knew it was 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:20.880 crazy because I get the little pre stories with the story. Okay, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.760 first of its niggers to start of someone to mix 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:29.880 sape like locks, Mason, Dog, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.760 It was like, yeah, we're gonna eat these things. And 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.400 then we attempted to recreate it. Not recreated, but we're like, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.040 we're gonna do another post cut. And that was getting 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.640 at me dog. The first version, the first version actually 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.920 had Chic on there. No, the first show was all 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.839 all of them. It was all the locks and X. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.000 He did a whole another white label. Yeah, she'd we 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.120 put it and put it as a remix. But it's 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.599 a very original version. And I saw eating the clue tapes. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.039 She was like, we got these that he wanted to 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:05.480 go do lo Yeah now not right there, right right. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.520 And then it came see boom. Then EARV got the 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.680 position at death gym boom and herb. It's like yo, leo, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.280 he got to sign this nigger boom boom boom, and 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.600 the momentum was going so crazy with dogs on four 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.080 three to know it was twenty fours. A little first, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.159 that was the right live right, and that was eating 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.800 them niggas like, oh my god, he got in the mud. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.200 He was the only one who got the money right. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:36.240 Else stay pretty money. He in the right. He was different. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.800 So that yeah, so it's like boom we started doing that. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.560 It was like shoot the momentum, the momentum like yo, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.360 hit three verses only get at Me Dog beat? All right, 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.560 so we're the same beat and that's to get at 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.280 me Dog. That you know. I'm not gonna lie to you. Um, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.200 that was my that's my year, best year in my life, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.800 seven gold. Yeah, best year in my life. All that 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.520 set up that you're saying that was happening. I saw 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.240 none of that. I saw none of that. All I 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.840 saw was what the fund is that get at Me Dog? 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.039 When that ship dropped. And then the fact is, I 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:15.120 don't know whose idea was was The video was black 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.559 and white, so I think it was definit chairing my hype. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.440 I was pissed about the video. Listen, listen, I'm not 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.240 gonna lie. I got a video bad from TV. I 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.080 hate band from TV video, But it actually does work 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.160 right at least you can see get at Me Dog. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:36.200 You can't even see bad from TV you, but I 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:41.920 learned like like like making it look funke up like that. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:49.000 So so when I see the actual video, I said, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.200 hype Whims did because it's not doing a cheap video, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.800 it's that it was black and white. So right now, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.760 I heard you say that earliest you when you see 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.520 the video, you're like fuck yeah. I'm like, you can't 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.760 see me, you can't see nobody. But I get it though. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.280 Over the years, I'm like, oh, it was the electricity. Yeah, like, oh, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.760 I got it. I think the videos would help carry 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.120 the record EVENU because the visual to go with the sound, right, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.800 he made it look electric. And this is the time 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:27.920 missy videos he's shooting Bustard come out with you like, damn, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:34.200 this is there's nothing, it's just the time of black. Yeah. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:41.040 He did what he was supposed to do. So now 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.080 this whole first album, when I look at the credits, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:55.199 it's mostly you, p K Swiss, am I missing somebody 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.960 or earth her. Okay, all right, so you're creating this album, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:05.400 describe to describe to us what's going on? Okay, Um, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.120 quick little flashback. The reason why I'm like, wow, you 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.160 know he came down to home. To nine. He was like, Yo, man, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.640 we need job beasts with these you know, with these cats. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.440 We got the yarkh who's coming down? He said, Okay, yeah, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.880 I knew why Kim first. Okay, we just know him 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:26.040 as why he's hitting. He's like, Marsha, we don't know, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:31.320 you know, Marsha, I love minem to. He showed us 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.240 it was poor white people in the world, especially from 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.880 New York. It's like, exactly why I came down, and yeah, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.160 why I came down to the block. He used to 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.120 come a couple of times like yo, man, get down 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.160 with us. Man. I'm like, now out and were getting home. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.319 You're getting money, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.000 he came down one time It's like, Yo, you better 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.839 get down with us. Oh ship click, you know what 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.760 I'm saying. That big spak we pulled out. You know 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.560 what I'm saying. He's like, Yo, chilling. And then I 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.839 was like, yeo, this thing is crazy. You you would 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.320 get shot to get me the yunkers wo me a 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.080 big sense said Yo, let's go to young. Then that's 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.560 the Locks came out first with Casino, so always there 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.520 was for them. You know what I'm saying. He came out, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.560 can't can't, can't get me a bit like he's niggas 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.720 is fired. You know what I'm saying. He kept saying, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.120 Now we got to find a big dog. He's out 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.160 doing crazy. Ship. We gotta find him. And was always 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.400 the big stuff. They knew that locks the pups, know 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.680 what I'm saying. Right then, Um, then about tom Dog 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.720 came to the the studio. You know, you know you had 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.880 knew the dog before. They don't know. So this is 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.720 your first time meeting the dog. You have a dog 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.880 with him at that time. I don't know. I don't 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.520 know because why dog Grudge was always around and if 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.400 dog did have a dog, it was because Grudge was 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.800 one of them. Like I'm talking about him sitting down 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:53.960 his towering over this motherfucker, big big Brooklyn dog. Now 0:10:54.120 --> 0:11:00.040 he's just looking a ship like over there. Yeah, you know 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.719 know what I'm saying. So be a cat person to 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:07.960 be down with rough riders. It got to be official, officiated. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.880 It can't be no running dog's not no fucking skinny 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.959 as big And if you don't lose the fight, he 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.559 got to get dirty cool. But at the same time 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.320 and ship, you know what I'm saying he came to shooting. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.920 He was super hyphi. You know what I'm saying. He 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.120 had books and books and books and books and books 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.480 and wraps. You know why with all the books, all 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.120 the books, he will move every time with the whole library. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.760 He wasn't like like I'm going somewhere, I'm taking a book. No, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.280 he moved with the library, probably to the company with 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.920 all his crates exactly, you know, because he from the 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.680 ever what I'm saying out it with all that ship 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.280 what I'm saying, so boom he had come and then 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.800 like he like, you know, while I was like, you 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.040 spit that one from him? This, I'm like, cool, and 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.080 he's spitting that for you. Yeah, okay, I'm like, who 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.760 spit that one for him? Do? Do? Do they? I'm like, oh, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.320 probably two verse. I'm like, hold on, say that to this. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.679 I'm like, oh, we got something, we got something, right, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.560 I said, say that other one to this beat boom, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.120 Oh we got something that other one said to this 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.520 beat boom. I'm like, oh, yeah, we aren't here now, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.679 we're in the pocket. We're in the pocket. Because my 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.600 beast was always theatric and he's theatric so it was 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.680 like a match like the hip hoppy hoppy hoppy ship, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.840 you know what I'm saying. He rhymed to it on 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.960 freestyles and coming up, but it came with that gothic 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:42.839 you know what I'm saying, you're not a body and 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:48.000 the trump what I'm saying, it's like gothic in Metropolitan. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.760 When he came with them balls and I came with that, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.040 it was like, oh, ship got him, you know what 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.440 I'm saying. Then EARV got the fucking position. It was like, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.280 oh we in the IRV. I ain't going I gotta 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.840 give hervos props to should he give he tap dance? 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.200 And I think he almost got fired trying to get get, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.200 trying to get dogs like you ain't signing my quick 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.959 and you was like, damn this students passionate, come on, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.559 it's going to yonkers. And that's when Dog had a 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.080 broken jaw and you were there that day. I was 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.080 playing the beats. Oh Nix was trying to leave my 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:27.760 name out of ship out here with all that, you 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.959 know what I'm saying. So I'm playing the joints. He 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.720 cutting down, cutting, could only the old meal and ship 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.400 for months, Wired, Yeah, Wired he was the first he 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.400 was to wire. Yeah, he was the first one. He 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.880 was breaking a little bit and get a little more. Yeah, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:49.040 thats crazy. Yeah, it's just amazing. Like I feel like 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.959 I was there. I heard it from lear heard it 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:57.200 from I'm playing cutting cut. I don't even know that 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.880 he was used to or he was just it's dope. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.240 You know, you'll you'll catch it all right, Like it 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.199 was a beat playing right now and I'm gonna fucking 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.280 he kicks some ship. Yeah. I think DMX like me more. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:17.079 When I stopped rapping, you became non competition at school. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.560 I think that's how much of a competition guy. You know, 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.080 I'm not gonna lie like it was a little different. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.800 It's hard for me to have friends and ship. You know. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.520 I'm around in prim time because we get nobody, no beats, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:37.600 something like naked. I gotta move around a little bit, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.080 like come on, you know what I'm saying. That portfolio Yeah, like, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.240 you know, come on, man, I love the squad, but 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:49.800 I kind of here. I had to come to Queens. Yeah, 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:53.040 that's all right. When I googled you, something amazing came 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.880 up and said Harlem. But it's that born in the Bronx. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.440 Yeah is that the truth? Okay, Yeah, I'm boring. Okay, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.760 born in the Boston Bridge project. Okay, my mom s 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:08.560 CARDI from projects. That gives me a little extra primeness. Okay, yeah, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.920 you know what I'm saying. You know, we will be flash, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:16.600 but I still wanna like a little more me and 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.000 cousin to talk about that and ship. So you might 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.640 be richer than the still might get stuck. So so 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.040 during the during the course of time, I started to 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.000 think of something the other day, knowing that if I 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.000 had you here, and I just want to be straight 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.640 up and just asked the question right like, I don't 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.040 remember seeing you and Swiss in the same room, and 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.520 over ten years, only time I can think of you 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.320 and Swiss being in the same room. Was it like 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:48.120 at that time? Yeah, And I don't know. This is 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.800 a question. I seriously don't know. Like I know, I'm 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.080 close to both sides, so I should know, but I 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.440 seriously don't know this. I swear to go. I swear 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.040 to go if if you want to take my fingers 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.480 not crossed, none of that, you know that funny? I 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.720 swear I don't know the answer to this. Why is 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.800 that though like, okay, I did well, it was a 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.360 little big paper I did. If you think I'm jiggie, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.720 five cuts from the money per respect boom, I didn't 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.920 get out me dog, numerous cuts and corpro duce on 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:24.440 like these thirteen cuts on uh, it's Alcohelo's hot. They 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.360 with the keen time for flushing my flesh the blood 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.480 the blood, right, you know what I'm saying. I was 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.640 getting kind of veto okay, but I was getting kind 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.480 of blocked. Yeah, I was getting kind of blocked because 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.760 rough outs with my management. I wasn't a rough frauther 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.120 of producer, you know what I'm saying. So at the 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.360 same time, like my phone call stopped coming through the 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.040 office on I'm like, yo, I got just so seven 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.800 million records collectively a matter of fact. But on you 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.720 it's a little bit popular beast sign and miss you 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.160 know it's like six million money properly respecting from one 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.560 point five Dog went about three out the gate all 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.680 that underwear management, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.200 at the beginning of them starting flesh of my flesh 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.719 felt Vito, I think you said, yeah, Like my phone 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.280 calls wasn't coming through from you, the management. Yeah, so 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.480 I had to go a little deep cover. Okay, you 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.000 know what I'm saying. I spoke to I think I 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.240 spoke to so so death. There was like, yo, he says, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.679 you're not doing be some more, hold on, hold on, okay, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.119 and then they're insinuated this is coming from your camp exactly. Okay, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.600 from my management. Okay, Wow, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.080 So the same time, and it actually it's written in blood, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.240 you know what I'm saying, the same time I'm doing 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.280 flesh your flesh, if you know the Swiss of the 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.320 majority of flesh my flesh and different things. And I 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.760 did one song It's called Dogs for Life, you know 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.560 what I'm saying the same time, and Dog was catching 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:56.320 the the the the vibes. He just made the song 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.840 for me. Robert still with your dog nink it would 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.200 right to me, think blood, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.639 So with the one song that they don't flesh my flesh, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.800 Dog just you made it for me. Okay. You know 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.440 what I'm saying that. You know Greece, Nick, I'm here. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.679 You know what I'm saying. Besides, with the politics is 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.200 you know what I'm saying, but actually Swiss is successful 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:14.520 to it. Let's not get it to us right right? 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.159 No word? Yeah yeah, yeah, Actually was the best thing 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.760 to happen to me. You're not being a part of flesh, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.600 of my flesh as much as you wanted to be. Na. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.879 Just really it made me to an individual producer. Okay, 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.639 like yeah, it made me to like iron grease, you 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.399 know what I'm saying. That came after that, Yeah, came out. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.040 They focused say okay, let's set over. Okay, all right, 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.159 I said, that's my flesh. You're feeling a little crazy. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.160 But you don't get word. You get word from social death. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.159 But did you add a goal to your management and 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:51.920 say what's going on here? Like? Um, not quite? Okay, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.240 now quite he took so so no no no no 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:56.960 no no no no no no no. I got it 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.280 from the office downtown, Michael say, specific name is up 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.880 with the ladies working there. It's so funny ship going on. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.760 They're sending your phone calls. So another producer, so it's 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.720 forth like, oh but the cap all this up pulled 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.760 up to jay Z. Clip jay Z said the loll 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.440 in one shot. Okay, what clip is that? And clip 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.840 that jay Z put up because actually I'm so glad 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.000 Jay did. I'm like, I gotta tell this storry numbred. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.639 But Jay was like, um for one of his albums, like, yo, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.040 I went to the dude doing all them records, Uh, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.560 Dame Crease that produced the stock and hell of Shot 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:39.600 and then um, that's just smelled good too, right then? Um, 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.440 J was like, you know, I wanted I wanted Dame 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.080 Crease and then he sent me the Nephew, but now 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.159 I want to Crease. I'm like, nah, I can't be 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.119 sitting what you're doing, you know what I'm saying. So 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.240 at the same time, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.280 Jay kept the Fisher like not but mean enough for 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:56.639 We did some hits, you know what I'm seeing. We 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.399 did some ship you know what I'm saying. But I 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.600 can't front. I went to work with Fat Nigger. So 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.600 that was one of the phone calls that got redistributed. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.639 Did you ever get a chance to work with the 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:17.040 whole one song? Okay, um Freeway, big Spender, Hey, big Spender. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.680 You know what I'm saying. Okay, that was the only time. 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.760 It's the only time. But we actually we always have great, 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.480 good dialog, especially on the toys with dog and everything. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.040 Great dollargue there always give me a lot of great insight. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.080 So this is for people that don't know, and obviously me, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.040 I'm a part of that and they don't know. So 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.439 flush of my flesh comes out. Another successful he has 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.199 too number one albums in one year. You guys know 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.640 each other from back then. You did feel a little 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.600 Vito like you said, how do you black ball? Black ball? 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.200 So how do you amend this? Like how do y'all 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.520 come back together? No dog? Dog never ever ever dog. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:21:00.200 You never saw it as him. Dog never ever love 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.959 my nig. He always kept it to billion with me. 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.880 Always crease some new album, pull up if nobody else 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.480 wanted me to. His movie scores Greece. I'm doing a 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.720 movie called X and wounds, come through the score, the 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.280 whole score on that, Greece. I'm doing a movie called 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.520 Credit to the Grave, Come through the score and that 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.560 you know what I'm saying, and all the main things. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.800 So he will always keep me involved. But all his 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.960 projects or anything he was doing, but yourself. But earlier 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.160 he said you felt black ball. You can't feel black 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:37.280 ball that they're doing scores no, no, I was black 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.760 ball in the almost society in your own camp. You're saying, no, 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.919 you know from the rough fry of situation was a 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.600 little yeah, it was a little like, uh, I don't know, 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:51.199 but from X there's DMX. Let me just ask you 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.800 thought it was Swiss himself saying no, I don't know. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.160 Never no never never, I never never never never never. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.280 I'm actually actually quite proud of Swiss. Okay, but ye's 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.880 just having beat competition. That's what everyone had at that time. 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.000 Not quite what's I didn't always having to beat competitions. Okay, 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.960 I'm just cranking and doing dope shit. I don't know. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:17.120 It was, uh, competition and the door behind you ships coming, 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.400 it's always coming. No, I just got just do dope shit. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:22.719 I ain't know. It was like getting the closest door 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.919 behind you. It's times sometimes yeah, you know, it happens 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.879 like that. I don't say sometimes it is like that, 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.720 but sometimes it happens like right right, Wow, this is interesting, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.920 this is interesting. Now I just don't through. Man, it's dope. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.120 It's still a movie still filming. So so what's part 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.159 of the un d MX is going back together on 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.480 his albums because I know you said that the soundtracks 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.199 the third album. The third album was X Okay, you 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.800 know what I'm saying, Uh, that album is super successful too. 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.399 When I came in on, came in on d XL 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.800 with the locks and drag and damn what the record 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:03.280 on that faint my you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.480 it came in on Area boom. You know what I'm saying. 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:10.119 That was a third album. Okay, fast board to the 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:17.240 new album Excellence. Yeah, that's it right, excedus right there, right, yes, um, 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.760 would you on there? Okay, what did you think about 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:28.359 the album? It was politically correct. That's a politically correct answer. 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.720 You know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't have 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.120 to know he loved the album. Yeah, I don't. I don't. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.199 I don't like and trust me like social media and 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.440 all that ship. You ain't know what are your beach 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.360 is the harder sould accident everything. You know what I'm saying. 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:43.880 I need to had to put up a post. It's 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.600 like if I'm on this album but not support my 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.480 motherfucking nigger, I'm not with all that that that that ship. 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.480 You know what I'm saying. I know it's kids but 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:57.080 why are you saying family correct? Um, you got to 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.720 think about it. Actually, Swisses as a a it's a 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:06.800 good name and uh a good brand, so it's only 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.560 right for him to push it and put things together 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.920 to get what you know what I'm saying. It could 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.320 be you know, gotten gone and even bringing all the 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:20.200 celebrities evolved to supporting and different things. It's done real good, 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.840 you know what I'm saying. But politically correct, that's that's 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:29.320 like something different. I mean I was expected hot cool, No, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:30.919 I mean it's hot, you know what I'm saying. But 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.960 I'm saying, like what literally correct means? Not only am 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.040 I producing ship? You know what I'm saying, I'm the 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.760 president too, So I'm gonna look at things like and 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.040 even if I'm not producing on it, I'm gonna look 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.480 at things like, Okay, the marketing on this ships eight plus, 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.800 I like the way the cook down. Okay, these things 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.040 right here. So it's I learned that from check. You 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.880 know what I'm saying, Just the things just to make 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.720 sure things selling and get to where they need to 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.040 be without the ego of just me being on it. 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.320 I asked you something else in that vein what do 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.280 you think that album would have sounded like had X 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:06.240 been here, because I think he was heard a lot 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.000 of it, but now it was different. Yeah, it was different. 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:14.680 It was was completed. The ALBUMA came out. It's not 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.919 the Zach version, and he was working on I know 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.000 there was a record that he talked about that never 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.040 made the car all the record spoke about one Champs 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.480 actually made it. But there was a record that everybody 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.960 kept saying, Yeah, the pop Smoke record. Oh pop smoke Okay, 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.439 yeah that was probably yeah, Okay, damn, that's right. I 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:43.240 forgot that, Okay, Yeah, I smocused on that beat. But 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.840 for the most part, like I heard, I heard it. 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:48.919 I didn't hear when loud Wayne was on the record, 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.199 and I didn't hear the Nas and the Jay record, 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.480 Like I didn't hear that at all record for like 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.040 four couple of years. It sounds you know, it sounds 0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:02.760 like locks joint. Know that this is what my dogs 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.560 and you know what I'm saying, Actually, I see you. 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:09.400 Bront So. You even did an album with riff Raff. Yeah, 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.040 was that bag? Like that was it was independent? It 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.520 was independent still a back Yeah, it was half on 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.400 an independence. Um we did as a mix sape. First. 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.119 You know what I'm saying, we did see Now that 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:27.960 was See that's different. Okay, Yo producing locks and x 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.880 YO fan base comprise. What are you doing? Oh my god? Yeah, 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.919 oh yeah, I could imagine they was shooting me up 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:41.280 like crazy. See I met Riff, you know what I'm saying, 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:47.840 but Andy Midical Lockers and I'm probably yeah, probably you know, 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:55.399 dirt Nasty, Yeah, the White Weird three amigos, and I 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.680 did the track for them. Riff was like, you got 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.879 more of those? I'm like, yeah, you know, so, I 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.040 wasn't really aware of his fan base. I saw to 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.760 do some reach like that because they got like a 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.920 cult following. He got some whole ship w w F 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:12.760 type of So I'm like, you know what, now I'm 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.960 gonna go in. I shocked the shut on me. You 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.399 started doing an album and he was just like going 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.320 ham and his way him. I'm like, oh he is, 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.919 And I was listening like Yo. He looked at a 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.119 lot of TV as a kid, you looked at a 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.080 lot of You could tell he was just in in 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.080 the crib looking at MTV, looking at I'm going Connie 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.439 like Chung spitting on the type of wild bars and 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.960 Ship and then um, when the project came out, you 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.520 know a lot of people was like, yo, Greece, how 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.040 you do that? You know the Locks and X fans, 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.879 you know, how you do that? How you make me 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:56.159 like him? In fact? How you do that? What I'm saying? 0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.879 And it just was a whole different uh music, you 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.200 know that. It was like it was cool, you know 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.040 what it was differently Ship because I mean, like, you know, 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.880 we're dog in the lock. We killed everybody, killed half 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.600 of the world, catching kill them in And I'm like, 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:15.200 let me do so. How do y'all tip through the group? 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:20.040 Through that group? Yeah? Okay, Actually I'm honking saying, um, 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.720 my man, Big Chuck, Phoenix, Server soon and Ship. You 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.440 know what I'm saying. He throw the shows, He got 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.000 the store out there, and he hooked it up. I was, 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:28.800 I was, well, you know, I was living the Phoenix 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.520 for I was like, Yo, I'm hooky over with dirt. 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:33.879 I was living out the X to right. Yeah. I 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.160 first went out there weeks and like that little living 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:42.600 mad White Boys listen excellent day about Gona some snakes 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.440 like hold on, buddy, it's not it's not a normal city. Ship. 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.920 What the Phoenix and you'll just changed the snakes and 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.479 like that. Come on, funny, I saw rad coons right 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.360 right now, coons get I'm not going to say that 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.760 because there might be some type of law. Now, I 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.120 don't think about no raccoons. I want to be honest. 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.360 I got a friend named raccoon. No one cares about him. 0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.640 So we're gonna hunting raccoons, Holy ship. No, no, that's 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.680 where I live now. You don't eat raccoons though, right, No, no, no, 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:19.000 motherfucker's at the rattle snaks. I eat it the raccoons. No, no, no, 0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:24.280 no raccoons, okay, two different coats. Okay, where I live now, 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.440 there's raccoons and DIDs now living in Phoenix, the Carolinas 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:33.960 or somewhere. Okay, they're all living in Phoenix. Stopians, rattle 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:42.080 snakes East the raccoons. No, it's no, it's no rash bad. 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:52.880 I'm sorry. Are we gonna get the motherfucker's okay? Moving 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.960 them on? We flop floating around? Another thing that that 0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.640 that that that was interesting. I think one day I 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.720 was in the w hotel and Max b walks in 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.880 and you walk in Frenchman trying to walk in and 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.760 I forget the name of this point star kicked. I 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.080 wouldn't deploy a name off. I don't remember her name is. 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.880 But they came down. This is a long time ago. Obviously. 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.080 It was a lot of poinn stars that Max B 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.200 and at the Long State mine because they've seen this 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:34.920 porn star Tip Roxley Stad crazy for Roxy so himnful 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.719 and I hadn't here. I am like, I'm I'm like 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.720 when I jerk go up, I just regular jerky, like 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.120 you know what I'm saying that you need the internet 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.240 and got it like they knew my name all that, 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:48.240 so I like what, I don't need the end. You 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:53.240 got a great imagination, amund gotta picture you got it. 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.520 So but they were so into that, So I say, 0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.760 let's just let's subscribe Max Be. For people who never 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:08.320 met Max B. Subscribe Max B if you can't, I motherfucker, 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.400 that's my little bro man. I love him, manum now 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:20.440 Max Man. She's like he he put the whole prestorring, yes, 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.880 pre storing, okay, and you got something to do with 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.800 this pre starker, I believe, So I got something to 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.280 do with everything, right, you actually a matter of fact, 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.280 just to go back after the black ball Okay, you know, 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.920 the nigga's first thing is to fun with me, right 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:45.080 with you made trunk? I was in Queens, yes, and 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.040 I am, but I boom uh all right. It was 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.680 two thousand and six seven. And by the way, I 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.240 don't think he was black balled. I'm gonna be honest. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.840 I don't know. It wasn't it was. It was not 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.480 my phone calls coming through, okay, through my management. So 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.080 I had to get out there on my own and 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.960 find my own way, okay, and it worked out pretty spectacular, 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:10.040 thank you, right, not two dours of six, well seven, 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.880 and just as New York, we're getting Clawbert. Now, I 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.000 love all music, you know, if you see my catalog, 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.080 I'll work with Yeah, I ain gonna say everybody, but 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.880 just the night's over here, buging how much animated artists? 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.800 You what I'm saying. So, but you meet back to 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.520 thand and six. Right now, we're getting closer, Like I'm 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.000 sure about New York, like God and the hes just 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.800 trying to hate these songs. We're bringing New York back. 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:40.400 Oh my god, everybody doing the and all that. Just then, 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:46.440 no niggers in the city's saying. You know what I'm 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.960 saying that I signed in the crib, right, and this 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.760 is gonna suck you up a little bit. I'm in 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.760 the crib like, yo, man, I kind of make something 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.960 that's on meat. Okay, I'm not an artist, but I 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.480 just I know what I need and I pulled the 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:14.880 piano and I'm like, fuck it, we're smoking side that 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.840 I sent it to you. Then I send it the 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.040 styles and y'all put verses on it and we shot 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.400 it and it started bringing the city back because we 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.280 had the weed from New York that was clicking. It 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.320 was from New York, New York, New York side with 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:37.000 diesel everywhere, right, gangster and fun song at the same time, 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.200 and then it was dead. And then you brought me 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.640 for the song and you put it off reality. It's okay, 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:50.400 it's probably me what I'm saying, wrought me for You're right, 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:56.120 and that was me put me bay. That was crazy 0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.720 like that at each other to be before something. Listen. 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.680 I'm like, he's like, yo, know, I got this verse 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.600 um that you that you did, so I'm trying to 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.520 clear it and I'm like, your maphis mad high and 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.760 they're like how I never did a verse for Mathis 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.200 so I'm not putting together as Greece who gave it 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.160 to him? So then they finally play it for me, 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.520 I'm like, Yo, maphis an ill, how did you get that? 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.080 Got it? And he turned out of this Greece. Let's 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:24.960 get back to your story, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.080 So let's go hold on because I want to get 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.719 this sour for a separate part. But I wanted to 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.960 get like when you first I knew that Max b 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.879 was like because he was a different type of artist, 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.160 Like I think you were saying that's why you were 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:36.880 saying New York was getting crised. Yeah, you know what 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.080 I'm saying. See, the thing was, it was right off 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:44.479 the the the Burg game. I was about to ask 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.720 you for the game, right and Max brother my nigga, 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.520 Mike Murder shout to Mike Murder. You know what I'm saying. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.560 He was like, Chris, get this nigger. You know what 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.080 I'm saying to him to leave burgag say no he was. 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.960 They had the frictional. Yeah, I don't know what the 0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.640 fun was. That's why you see that come up video. 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.319 I'm like, what you think about it and I don't 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.160 think nothing about it. That's they shipped, and they know 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.319 they ship. You know what I'm saying. Boom, So they say, 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.479 you ain't not gonna get me. The ain't a little nigger, 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.520 you know what I'm saying. So at the same time, 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.040 Max Brother was like, get the snicker man, Get the 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.080 snigger man. They're gonna kill a snigger man. They I'm 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.440 telling you, get this nigger because it was the music 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.719 in the street streets, you know what I'm saying. So 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.319 it's like, all right, cool, and then you know, I'm like, yeah, 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:34.960 bring He's like, no, Greece, get him please, oh, bring 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.000 him up. So he came up boom and was like yo, 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.600 man where we didn't even get getting you know, just 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.920 like dog, but in a different way. Another ray animated artists, 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.680 you know what I'm saying. And then um he started 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.360 going I'm like, damn, this nigga is different, you know 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.600 what I'm saying. So we started, you know, shouting young 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.120 little young lowers. The U was doing a lot of beats, 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:58.960 a lot of beats, and they saw it coming up 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.120 to you want to tell me that you want to 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:05.120 go to come to me like this? This is different. 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.759 You know what I'm saying, like, oh, this is this 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.200 is groovy. You know what I'm saying that. I'm like, Okay, 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.879 well I'm coming to dude. Let me turn the temple up. 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.640 Dude in that Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. And then we just 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.000 started doing it from there, and then we just saw 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.800 the grooving and and then that's when French came on. 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.920 French came with the Cocaine City DVDs. He French was 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.319 young French. First come up DVD was Dorkey Diamonds. When 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.640 you said earlier, I mainly through the French Montana. I 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.120 was out of live Dorky Diamonds. That was DVD Dorgy Diamonds. 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.200 And I believe I got the other guy named, but 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:44.239 it was cocaine. What Cocaine Cocaine City was was French 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:49.400 Montenda DVD. And and he was still he was coming 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.600 out of beings when the Coke Boy drew pop right there, 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.040 Bank Bank. You know what I'm saying, he was coming 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.719 out of being young French. Okay, when I was just 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.440 ratting names like French Montana now you know, saying, so 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.080 boom him and Max Star doing the tape and we 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:04.880 did the Colke Wave tape or three of Us and 0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.640 Ship with the DVD. You know what the v game 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.719 So Boom did that Ship. That's just a pu you 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.360 know what I'm saying. A matter of fact, even winded 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.960 a little bit after the Solar Dasy. You got the 0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.200 baby grind situation. Then I got the baby grind situation. 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.160 I did Google music, so when I was doing Google Music, 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.520 I was still on that beginning Claubert. I just got 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.479 to do something, So I made the whole mix sape 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.400 just hard me wrapping on everything and songs for I'm like, 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.320 I don't care nigs like me or not that I 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.359 had Max come through one song Connecticut cutsh Connecticut. Yeah, 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:43.520 that's just said Boom Blue, and he was like, yo, 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.000 I hear what you're doing. We didn't talk about nothing, 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.680 but he felt the vibe was like I'm Achilles Niggers. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.959 I'm not the artist, but I'm still with Akillings because 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:54.799 I know the wave limps. You know what I'm saying. 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.399 It's like Greece, I got it, let me do it. 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.719 I'm like, go ahead. And then that's why I did 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.000 the mix, said boom Is at one point five. It's 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.880 just said Pune after that, then we did Coke Wave. 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.600 So did you ever get like any slack from like 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.279 the dip set side, because you know you're being hall 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:16.480 and related him. I'm pretty sure, Okay, I'm pretty sure 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.200 somebody certain way that's what it is. Who well, hey, whatever, 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.719 you know what I'm saying. Nobody never said nothing to me, 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.040 all right, right, okay, So now let's move on to 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:33.719 French for a second. We're seeing French announcing projects where 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.520 Harry Fraud. Yes, we see it, and we know it's nothing. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.960 But does that feel weird? Do you see you're seeing 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:45.360 that sometimes? Um, not quite frenchman worker Harry Fraud. Actually 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.640 I was working for it too. Actually I wrapped to 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:54.600 a couple of Spece sues um a while ago. Funny 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:58.120 servant Harry for it too. Let's get to it, pretty, 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.040 Let's get to it and into that's what we're here for, 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:06.440 all right. I think it might be a mad I 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.640 don't care, my boy dre right. I think, yeah, purchased 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.200 some of have you fraud equipment back then, Yeah, purchased 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:17.040 or perks have even purchased what I'm saying. And so 0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.480 at the same time, I think, um, happy Frauda, probably 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.520 because some of a lot of producers double beats up. 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.239 That's one thing to give the same year. It's one 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.600 thing I never dine in my whole twenties something damn 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:35.080 the thirty career. I never gave an artist to artists 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.600 same people would be the pro and doing that though, 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.840 I mean, besides obviously getting paid twice being greedy. But 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.160 if one person takes off of the record legitimately, then 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.360 the other one is canceled out and somebody owe some 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.160 money and somebody got some hard feelings, which I'm getting 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.520 to the hard feelings right. So I think the bro 0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:01.520 Dre came in, um took hold equip right, not London 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:06.279 Dre right, London Dre Okay cool. I can't even want 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:07.879 to say that part. Okay cool, but you know that's 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.399 what it is. Came you know, and took all the ship. 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.200 So I have you called me up? I was like, yo, man, 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.520 good give dud damn like man, because I'm a producer, 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:21.359 producer and trip from you know what I've been doing. 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.560 So I'm like Dre, I call it drading. Negotiate with Dre. 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.960 That's my good guy too. I'm like, Drey, get it 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:35.400 guys stuff increase this nigger you get the accident, I'm like, 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.280 have you give them six extra beats? Make it work? 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.719 All right, I'm gonna work with dre Bo boom. You 0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.120 want to get this equipment back. I had to come 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:51.840 to negotiate. God makes noise with Christ. So you know, 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.200 it's stories and pre stories with a lot of things. 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.640 But even going back to the virginal French working solely 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.319 but happy for aud on his hip hoppy type ship. 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.839 You know what I'm saying now, it's not nothing okay 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.720 cool because it's just like that. So I'm proud of everybody. 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.759 Is it a level up? Sometimes like I would still 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:21.200 always have SEVENI four million soulton counting because he's like, 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.120 you know that. You know what happens is when we 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.279 when we uh we do this, I tweet, I tweet out, 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.399 r so, I tweet out. I say, yo, we got 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.480 grease on. I'll say we got suth to such on. 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.200 One of the main things is that's saying does grease 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.120 feel away? Like it seems like once French bleue like 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.080 he didn't come back have that wave no more together 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.040 like you him And this is from the people. You 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.720 know what I got this. This is with drink champions 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.800 for so I got out. It's about the people being quietly. 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.480 That was they see it, you know, That's what I'm saying. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.040 That was the most asked question was what does he 0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.560 feel away about French working with Harry Fordon and as like, 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.279 does he feel away that when French went to a 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:09.000 certain level that seemed like y'all stopped working together. Um Na, man, 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:17.480 now all or some ship? Yeah, it could be some 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.120 fun life involved, but you know what I'm saying. But 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.480 to me where I'm at in time, actually I needed 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.240 to take some cool breaks off I had, like especially 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.000 with Dog and all that I had like a fucking 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:37.279 consecutive years of mashing all his beers of French out there. 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.520 That's for him, you know what I'm saying. I had 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.520 to take a break off, Like I said, I'll smoke 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.840 or drinking more, different things and ship, kids has grown 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.080 and different things. Just really, uh, take time for me, 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.800 you know I'm saying. Different ship beside. Yeah, running this 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.320 fucking race for so many fucking years and ship, you 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.600 know what I'm saying. So I don't feel no way. 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.560 Actually I took time off to get a lot of 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.440 spiritual healing and get very closer to my family. And 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:10.120 Dad's sitting still. Did you said, no, Dad's sitting still still? Yeah, 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:15.840 Dad is home. I'm not outside. I'm home, you know 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.000 something like I've been outside bumping to you that is 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.960 that I come my uncle house in the Bronx nor like, 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:29.880 how does looping back? Going back backwards now on some 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:34.200 Harlem ship. Did you have any interactions with big El? Yeah? 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.960 And what give us something else? Though? Man, big El, 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.959 that's my guy, guy guy, you gotta understand um going 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.000 no way back. My crew and I being sure from 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.480 the corn. We had a big gas battle saying that 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:51.120 Paul cam blood shot everybody mace. Wow, we cut him 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.880 and I'll beat niggas some black I was big staying 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.719 me no, my Nika pelleah and I'll be niggas a 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.399 black He was on they were children a card. Yeah, 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.640 but we just was on some black hoodie guns and bracklets. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.840 You know what I'm saying. But m L was the 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:17.880 first person our Age range to get signed, so we 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.000 signed Sony. He was with d I T. C. He 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:27.160 was with Columbia. Yeah, that was you know what I'm saying. Well, 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.440 no is this only Columbia has always been on the SNY. 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.600 It wasn't. I don't think Columbia ever stood on his own. 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.400 I don't know. I think so No, I think it's 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.880 always been on the SNY. Bro whatever he was okay, 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.920 So I was like the first person out of all 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:44.320 of us to yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure. Kim 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.759 and Mace was like, oh, ship, that's right there. He 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.120 was like, oh, that's right there. You know what I'm saying. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.800 You know, far as the young generation, ham Teddy Roley 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:54.759 grew up from the block where I grew up back 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:59.200 raw base was on the projects and your projects to 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:06.200 make thinks. Kumo d was I'm Hunt nine Hunt twenty 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.080 nine Street did he had a little glasses always always 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:14.160 superstars Yeah, and then all the DJs Bruce CB what 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.000 I'm saying. So it was always a lot of ship 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:21.160 going on in the hood, but different levels and generations. 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.879 Niggas wrapping, rapping, rapping, spin L was the first one. 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.319 L got signed and we knew it was close and 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:33.879 just like theoretically my studio I was on twenty ninth 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:38.239 Street right before L got killed. He would come to 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:43.080 my studio all the time. I kept it in the 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.719 hood as long as I could. I had to get 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.319 funk out of there, you know what I'm saying. But 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.200 L would come to the studio and this is after 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.000 he had the singles with everything out. He was doing 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:53.680 a party from Oh and he was just like Yo, 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.160 creething oft the b C D And he was just 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.279 going down the second floor and just right right right. 0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.200 And even when he got um, we gotta killed his 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:06.080 his uh flyers from the club sending the studio. You 0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.000 got the bag with the whole thick of flyers and 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.600 ship what I'm saying. So it was like fuck, you 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.000 know what I'm saying. But L is the legend of 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:19.120 our age range, especially your hall. He was, you know, 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.719 and it seemed like he was about to get I 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.560 mean he was supposed to get sign the rocket Feller 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.560 around your time, right, yeah, and it would have been crazy. 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.319 Jay was sounding like up a little bit too, he said, 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:33.120 he was sounding like the girl A lot of people 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:38.280 sounded like big. Yeah. He was coming like with original 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:42.440 style becomes some original style, was like, that's the new wave. 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:48.000 Ye yeah, I mean, yeah, we're gonna do quick time 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.279 with Slim. Usually this time we take shots. But you're 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.320 not taking shots. So we're just we're just we'll just 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.799 we'll just no no, no weak shot. We'll just we'll 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.680 just ride with it that one of your homies want 0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.240 to step in for you? On your homies, wanna stepping 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:05.320 in for you? Do you want to stepping No? No, no, no, 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.960 no no, you gotta take You gotta take the whole game, 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.600 the whole game. You got your own ship, Like, all right, 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.880 come on, I like you got your own ship, Tracy, 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:16.200 you help the bole. You're gonna take the shot. You 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:20.759 gotta bring your own patrol, bring up with yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:27.440 yeah yeah yeah, we got we got on my shot glass. 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.160 I'm so shoot my water. Yeah, this this is kind 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:38.080 of easy, man, it's my step. I'll talk about this. Yeah, 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:45.000 because did him Okay, yeah, some of these are good. 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.919 Some of these are good. Hi. You ready? You only 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.840 take the shot if he says neither or if he 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.600 says both. If he doesn't say neither both, you know, 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.839 but it's it's it's prayer question, all right. So this one, 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.160 I know, I kind of know he's gonna go. Um, 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.799 it's quick to have a slide uh nahs or jay, 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:18.440 I'm fucking technical man, J what aspect No, it's just 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.640 any aspect one, whatever it is. Don't don't be toothings. 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.000 Don't worry about it if you want to. It's hard 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:29.040 because I didn't take a shot there. It's okay, both 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.640 of them. It's two lates. I was, I would say, 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:39.000 J on the oporneal and doing different things. But quietly, no, 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.440 it's got a lot of different right both to me, sir, 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.799 I'm saying it sounds like both to me. That's been 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.040 just a right cool All right, now this one, I 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.600 pretty much know where're gonna go with this one. DMX 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:58.440 with Tupac. I love Tupac. Okay, but you're going with X. 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.359 Gotta keep you roll roll some of these I'm ill give. 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.600 Just pass me back to product the thing, dump it 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.759 out because I'm still trying to promote. Yeah, yeah, get 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.160 back the case. Yeah there you go. Hey, you want 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.000 this one too? You get him everything? Yeah? Yeah, I 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.480 like I wrote about Molly's yea throwing back old okay, 0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:27.239 all right, Sunny catch it, okay, I didn't know what 0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:32.080 you got with this, come on, okay, all right, Ace 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:36.440 hood or currency comes okay, that's you got a lot 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:41.120 of drinks and currency spy, virginal godless original style that 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.320 does virginal groove. There, that's what I funk with Derek 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.279 currency figure all right, nineties or two thousand of hip hop? 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:52.239 Rusk said to two thousand's two thousands? Oh ship, I 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:58.640 am alright cool. Damnever considered two thousands or was nineties? 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:04.759 That one? That's true because it bleeds. It bleeds what 0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:08.840 I'm saying like Semon could like it could be radio 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:18.400 podcasts were in the future now okay, uh better up podcast. 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.520 That's cool looking at it, still the same semi song. Okay, 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.080 I know Scarface or ice Cube, he gonna take a shot. 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.359 I gotta go with Uncle Face. Okay, Okay, I love 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.480 God Uncle Facing al Right, this one he's definitely gonna 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:46.880 take a shot to. He should almost Biggie or Big Gul. Damn, 0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:52.720 that's a shot. See see that's the ship that sucks 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.239 me up. It sounds like a shot. Just gotta pick 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.279 both because yeah, I'm gonna say both. Yeah, because the 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.400 one thing, like you know what I'm saying, course, l bro, 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:05.560 you know what I'm saying. But that's the legacy. But 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:10.440 I just be a little with big. It just was 0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.160 the one thing that. I wish I was a little 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:18.680 older we were doing it. I would have had them 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:23.239 do more songs, just more, just keep going, all right. 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.000 But at the same time, the amount of songs is 0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:30.399 a legacy, right, Okay, DJ Mogs or Alchemists m hmm, 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:37.279 name from the same did lineage? Did Monks produce um 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:42.440 at Cypress Hill? No? The single which one time for 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.520 some action? I know that's Redman hook. But now you're 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.640 talking about if I could just kill a man, Yeah, 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.480 I got it. Damn Alchemists fire too. I gotta go 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:56.879 with Moms. Yeah, because because because you know what I'm saying, 0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.960 I can just kill him. That's part of the influence. 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.600 What's got part of us here? You know what I'm saying? 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:10.960 So all right? Yeah, not taking when alcoms dope? No analog? 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:20.919 Did you? Oh? I don't know. Go both. I'm gonna 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:29.879 go both because somebody both. We got a drink were 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.560 all the way? Yeah? Are you going right there? Here? 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:36.239 You're driving? Right? Okay? All right? What was that? I 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:43.400 was ana long digital? I agree with that. Um I 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.160 learned the Seeker from Dr Dre and The Lord in Digital. Okay, 0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:50.879 but hold on, we gotta got MP three NPC two 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.400 thousand or the SP twelve hundred. What about the three thousand? 0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.759 That's not dead brother ship. I didn't want to put 0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.920 that one, and I'm going have to say specause I 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.839 don't like to some thousand at all. Okay to digit 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.080 reason times f L studio reason our f L studio. 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:19.640 What's that reason? It's record, that's all right? The ship 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:35.279 that okay, major or indie m that's kind of both. Sorry, yeah, 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.160 just go ahead. Don't go to the tequila. Come on, yeah, yeah, 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:41.880 you're good, right there, you're good. That's a that we 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:51.640 all have that. Okay, the rules n how many halfway through? 0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:55.560 I think we halfway through? Okay, pro tools or logic 0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:03.600 pro tools okay, yeah, because I um I use ableton 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:11.279 ableton That just sounds like some witch scientists like he 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:16.200 definitely made glasses like you. He looked like you, so 0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:20.680 able tonight, So you're going pro tools protels okay to me, 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.200 people who wear glasses smarter. I'm just saying, just want 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:32.279 to throw that out. Yeah l A or Miami l 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:36.040 A because I do movies, okay, in video games, Okay, 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:41.120 I know I love Miami. I love y'all. Please don't Joe, 0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:48.120 you can make more money we got okay, or Mace. 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.520 That's just was on the text with Mace earlier. That's 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:57.600 the pros both. It's not me, brother, it's the way 0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:02.320 the game got expect. Okay, Tracy is right there. You 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:06.320 know everybody, Okay, all right, we're gonna waiting to finish. 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:13.640 It's part of the game. He had more questions. No, no, no, no, 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:18.120 it's all here. No banks on the mess. I'm not 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:22.040 even in sports, but I'm not gonna do both. Alright, 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:26.120 I don't do my Grandpap's and uncle's. We're from the Bronx, 0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:31.680 so that he die hard. Okay, correct, same, Okay, Papa, 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:40.919 Daddy or Dre. That's gonna be tough. Dre is most 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.560 of my influence and Puff is my first Chet sounds 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:53.759 like both, damn Tracy both and I work with both 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.880 of them personally. You know what I'm saying, Oh, this 0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:03.480 is fire because you don't know by the way, Yeah, uh, 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:09.279 we'll wait. Okay, Swiss, Swiss or Timberland. You're going after this. 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:16.200 Swiss is extended family. But I gotta go with Timberland. Okay, sure, 0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:25.520 you're okay, I'm going Timberland. Okay, come on, m Luck 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.920 the way he said that, Come on, Marb deeper outcast. 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:32.000 I don't know where you're going with this one. That's 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.920 kind of fucking crazy because they're like two of them 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:40.960 are at the young boy. Yeah, look outside. You gotta 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:46.279 go both. You know what you want. Just don't don't 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:49.839 go with the mom. I'm going with them, all right. 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.080 This is one. I know, Rose is one of my 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.600 favorite records all the time. But you know that man 0:56:54.960 --> 0:57:12.120 or Jada Kiss. Yeah, I'm gonna both New York. You 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:16.400 gotta understand. I got multiple songs with anybody, and I 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.760 got a song with Meth and coming. It's only three left, 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.880 It's only three left, Only three shots. Letter. This is 0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:24.160 up in the air. This is up in the air. 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:28.959 This one. I'm pretty sure he's good. Three three more shots. 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:35.360 You're gonna even Foxy Brown. I gotta go with Eve, Okay. 0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.600 You know I work with even when she was even destruction. 0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.200 I worked even she was even destruction as well. After that, 0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:44.640 I went to Philly to do it too. I'm with 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:54.440 the l a Um common Ground, Coolgi wrap A Big 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:59.600 Daddy Came, I love Came, but I'm about to go 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:01.520 to Cool. You wrap on the Gangster Ship and I 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.640 got a COUCHI rap single coming up, So you're gonna 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:08.280 Cuchi rap. I love Kano, but I'm gonna cut rap 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:17.040 Gangster French Montana or a SAP Rocky French. I didn't 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.480 really hear too many of a SAP records that Rocky record. 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:22.600 I know, No, I didn't real it. Right now, let's 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:32.040 get a negat some that's enough his record. Shout out 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:36.120 to shout out to a sapping for because I cleared 0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:39.120 the Pups record. I cleared the Pups record for them. Okay, Ship, 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:41.640 you gotta go back to what you said about dre 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:46.840 about teaching you the analog, did you Okay? So with 0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:57.560 the analog, when I will work with Yah, you know 0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.160 what I'm saying that. But when I work with Drake 0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:02.520 beause I work with a thousand times one was even 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:07.200 destruction before she was out of the East. Um another artist, 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:11.920 Amy Tavern Brazilian singing artists, but m we would track 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:17.000 the drums analog. All drums stay analog and all that 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.840 sounds digital. So we used two inch and pro tools. 0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:26.920 The reels are the drums and then everything else is digital. 0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:30.000 For the warmth especially come out to three thousand and ship. 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:34.000 That's why I picked the two thousand too crispy, That's 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:37.240 why I went with hunted and we got were kind 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:38.960 of described it for people who don't understand what the 0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:48.240 hell we're talking. Actually, people don't know. No, no, no, 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:52.200 the real the real ship, you know, that's the drums 0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.840 on the reel and everything else would be digitally recorded. 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.400 It's like holding a little person. So the first I 0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:02.360 don't know, but okay, that's a little crazy. The two 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:09.280 inch real I'm talking about yo, listens. Sorry to sound 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:12.240 like the old hen and the Landies used to have 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:15.439 a two inch real and you literally could not send 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:19.120 a verse like Buster RBS do a verse. Nobs is 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:20.720 doing the first for you have to come to your 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.560 studio because in order not on even that, in order 1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:26.160 to punch in that they would they would literally have 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.080 to put tape on the actual ship, like you have 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:36.320 to cut tape. Yeah, cut the tape that sorry. Look 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:38.080 at these guys, these guys like this, they make a 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:43.560 record in two minutes. Hey, I'm looking like fun. Took 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:47.360 us hours like just to just to track the beat. Remember, 1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:51.320 they had to track out the soul. Sorry, but the 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:53.880 sounds like what you're saying that warms. You can't get it, 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.320 especially for the drums. You know what I'm saying. He 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:01.200 used to we call the drums an analog and everything 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:04.440 else did here. And when I record or make beats 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:08.120 for aftermfractive things, I would record my drums too much 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:15.080 reels analog and all it sounds keep makingthing. Wow, that's crazy. Goddamn, 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:26.040 that's crazy. At one point you started to become a 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.280 part of your project. He was laying versus you. I 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.720 think people had a singing album or something and you 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:37.320 were singing, awesome ship. It was Blanket Jackson. That okay, okay, 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:45.120 And so you know, you go back to the incredible name. 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:47.920 You go back to the Michael Jackson song when it 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:50.720 was like the kid ain't mine. That was me. Okay, 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:54.520 you're the kid. Yeah, that was you know what I'm saying, 1:01:55.360 --> 1:02:01.080 checking the mail Michael Jackson. So you know that's Blakey 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.440 Jackson is Oh, I get it, Jackson even get the 1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:05.960 Jackson just speaking all of us. Name is Jackson somewhere, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.840 you know what, Let's find out he really is the kid. 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.720 That's hilarious. When it came actually came on the mix, sape. 1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:15.840 I think when the goomi at one point five, I 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:20.520 just did a fucking uh uh skit. I'm like with 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.040 the auto tune, fucking around like Blake could he used 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:27.479 to being honey out and blue and red star, blue 1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:32.240 red Staux. Know what blue red Staux? The pills? Yeah, 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:36.200 oh yeah, I know some of the drink blue red stalls. 1:02:36.320 --> 1:02:38.840 Like where was I for that one? Okay? I was 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:47.080 here for the pills. Still over the pills. I speak 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:50.120 up front with our fans over right, It's okay, he pills. 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:58.360 Here's something the pills. So this guy all right, so 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:02.680 me Max Frend's reasonly fucked up. So that's how you 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:07.960 made music with a pill? Put the guyline on it 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:13.480 only want to get to the point already. I can 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:26.520 tell you I did the skit. You know what I'm saying. 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:28.920 And that's like to turn the tune on. Fuck it, 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:39.400 Blanket Blanket Jackson of all those Michael Michael Jackson hit 1:03:39.560 --> 1:03:44.400 right now, like yo, that's dope. The skits aw going crazy. 1:03:44.400 --> 1:03:48.240 I'm like, word, put a beat on, did that on 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:51.840 the beat, put another one on. She just saw the 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:54.000 catching and saw the catching. That did the mixtape Ship 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:59.320 Club Music, which is all blanket featuring increase featuring yourself. 1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:02.200 Well not really. Yeah, there's a couple of over there. 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:06.320 Sorry to be bouncing around, but listen, right when we 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:09.840 interview people, we want to listen to their catalog or 1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:11.720 the ship. So we come here earlier. I can't here 1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:13.600 way too early today. I don't know why I was 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:16.720 here before. Everybody like there wasn't even a thing right here, 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:19.000 Like he was just here, the lady said. The lady 1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:21.680 looked at me and said, norm me, like you never 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:24.120 hear at this time anyway. So that was a great 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:27.600 thing because I could go through your catalog. But pause, 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:32.400 you really have how many songs to have to record? 1:04:32.520 --> 1:04:34.160 Like you really, Paul, I don't want to say that 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:38.320 you have a long ass catalog like like you know, 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:42.000 pauls like that's like you said, three thousand songs made 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:47.000 a pride over gaggerated or probably around there. You just 1:04:47.080 --> 1:04:48.600 try to get nine the County Ship. You know what 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:51.480 I'm saying that it's like the school of Tupacat. Yeah, 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:53.840 that's what you're saying. You wish Big would have cranked 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:58.040 out more records, because you're telling from me, Big had 1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:01.200 one beat of mind. He was writing to one beat 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:04.520 and Puff now Puff wild into action. I mean, you 1:05:04.600 --> 1:05:07.640 know Puff Puff is super regular in the studio, boxing 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.840 basketball shorts or whatever. He's a hut Okay, I don't 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:16.120 know that puff though, all right, I'm just you know, yeah, yeah, 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:18.919 but he was like, your big right to this joint, crease, 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:21.400 let me take your the room. And that's the only 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:24.240 one time I met Bigger Stark here at the La Moon. 1:05:25.280 --> 1:05:30.560 He's like, yo, you made this, like yeah, killless dope 1:05:30.720 --> 1:05:32.240 and this is this is very to die big or 1:05:32.280 --> 1:05:34.919 this is life after that band, that double album Big, Okay, 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:40.480 that's after death. You know. I had to maintain my excitement. 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:45.520 I'm like, okay, dope in my head, like, oh I'm 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:50.000 about to get a big record. It was the beat 1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:53.880 was crazy. I don't even got any more. Who was somebody? 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:56.720 You did? You did you would like to work with? 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:01.720 I just broke with Snoop. I always like Snoop, never 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:04.400 work with Snoop. I never walk Stoop because I like 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:09.040 I like, I like artists with their own character personality. 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:16.880 How about Buster? How about from Wow? No, I never 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:19.400 work with Bust. That's what you know what I'm saying, 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:23.720 It's just you know what I'm saying. I don't like 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:25.760 to work with artists sounds like other people. I can't 1:06:25.800 --> 1:06:27.760 do that. Oh yeah, you can't work with nobody new 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:33.880 right now? That for the Meals is the folks you're 1:06:34.240 --> 1:06:36.680 working with the Meals recently? No, no, I will Okay, 1:06:39.120 --> 1:06:42.520 they're original to me, like the New Ways, Yeah to me. 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.280 To me, there the original of that style. Now there's 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:46.920 a lot of people who silite the Megals, but to 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:50.880 be hands down the Megs, and you know, I like that. 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:54.520 I like their tightness, like you know, like the fact 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:58.680 that the Locks because you know all these years and 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:03.480 her styles p this Jada. I've never heard Jada this year. 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:06.400 And I've never heard Offset just take off and take 1:07:06.440 --> 1:07:10.160 off this on Crabo. I've never heard that. And they 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:13.280 actually seemed tighter now that they had like a discrepancy 1:07:13.320 --> 1:07:15.680 with their label like I think they had they they had. 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:18.400 They're going through their bad way. Yeah, that bad way 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:20.520 moment where how the Locks went through their moment with 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:23.000 bad Boy, and I think they're going through that. Hope 1:07:23.000 --> 1:07:26.440 hopefully all that works out, but um, it actually makes 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:28.520 me say, damn, I fount with him even more, Like 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:29.680 you know what I'm saying, I seem to be the 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:33.880 Nickelodeon Awards, which is right, you're walking through the melet's 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:38.200 walk through it. Um, what's CARDI b Manum? It was 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:40.160 something I was like, oh Ship, I even know what 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:42.320 you think? You know me, I'm like, oh Ship, But yeah, 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:44.120 I think they're cool and I think, um their music 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:46.040 and I think they still the text of time and 1:07:46.120 --> 1:07:47.760 I actually think they legends. Man, so you know what 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:56.080 I mean? Step so um boom doing all this? Um, 1:07:57.320 --> 1:07:59.040 I want to get back to the Way for a minute. 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:02.160 It's the way even something that Max be created. And 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.720 there's something that Max we created. Okay, yes, but I 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:08.280 just came on and made it more. Yeah, okay, you 1:08:08.320 --> 1:08:10.919 know more. What do you think when you hear people 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:13.120 use the way? There's a lot of people, know, it's 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:15.880 a lot you know what I'm saying. Um, it's just 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:20.000 unfortunately that he got locked up. You know what I'm saying. 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:23.800 Did he patting the word? Not quite, not that I 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:26.600 know of. I don't don't quote me like you know 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:30.160 what I'm saying, but not that I know of. You 1:08:30.200 --> 1:08:31.600 know what I'm saying that I would have patting the 1:08:31.640 --> 1:08:36.040 worst slie. Come on, he would have pat. I was 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:38.439 the first one to say slie and it's not and 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:51.040 it's not guy. Yeah, it wasn't no gang ship and 1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:53.200 that it was a simple. My friend went to the 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:55.759 store asked me, I want a piece of his sanwards. 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:58.000 I said no. When he came back with sandwich, was like, yo, man, 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:00.240 let's look good because he said it's pepper so I 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:03.280 thought it was pepper, pepperoni. Pepper and pepperoni sounds like 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:04.800 same to me too much. I thought it was pork. 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:06.479 When I came back and it wasn't pork, I said, oh, 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:08.000 should give me a piece and it was like that. 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:13.479 He said slime. It's no, no, no crazy ship to it. 1:09:13.560 --> 1:09:15.479 We put it on records. He put it on and um. 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:18.760 I actually spoke to uh Young Doug the other day. 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:23.000 I was actually after we finished Belly interview, I was 1:09:23.120 --> 1:09:28.479 with Cash Belly's manager and he faced time Young Thug 1:09:28.520 --> 1:09:31.720 and we talked about the Slime situation. I was gonna 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:34.200 come on the show. He's like, I gotten, and I like, 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:35.760 you know, I like I like the coach side of 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:38.320 the new generation. Some of them don't don't know the school. 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:40.800 You can't be bad at somebody for not knowing. But 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.240 but I'm telling you there's people out there that have 1:09:43.880 --> 1:09:48.320 like wave cemeteries and wave uh the wave the farm 1:09:48.360 --> 1:09:50.760 and the wave crew like like like not the way 1:09:50.880 --> 1:09:56.599 the wave the wave every implement of now right from 1:09:57.280 --> 1:10:02.120 even that's it's wavy like down with that a little 1:10:02.400 --> 1:10:07.519 too little baby actually saying wave. So um, Drake Travis Scott, 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:09.800 you know what I'm saying. I think Drake, shout it out, 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:13.880 Quabo the wave everything the culture at the point. Yeah, 1:10:14.000 --> 1:10:16.040 it's what it is, you know, like max Is is 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:19.360 a real part of right now culture. You got to 1:10:19.360 --> 1:10:22.720 think about it, like, um, two thousand and seven, he 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.000 got locked in two thousand nine. How long he's been 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:29.920 in jail right now? Two thousand nine? Twelve? Yeah, I 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:32.679 can't count the right twelve, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:35.040 Let me shout at the max. So the sunny Fire 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:38.599 years got chopped down fifteen. He's been in there twelve, 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:40.560 So that means three years from now he should be 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:43.599 all right and he might get a couple years back, 1:10:43.640 --> 1:10:46.080 you know what I'm saying. Okay, now, let's be honest. 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:49.320 I want to need the honesty, grease, that's all I am, Leo. 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:58.719 I need the honesty. Can't he really survive because listen, 1:10:59.000 --> 1:11:00.640 let's just be clear, and I want to say this 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:03.640 will all due respect. Yes, I want to say this 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:09.720 to all do is Shine was the most anticipated New 1:11:09.840 --> 1:11:17.360 York coming back home. He it was like he lost 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:18.880 the step. But he must have knew he was going 1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:22.639 to be a political person. Now he in believes being 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:26.240 the president of some ship. Max, I don't see him 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:31.000 being the president of nothing. And he come home and 1:11:31.200 --> 1:11:33.640 be the way because part of why Max is the 1:11:33.760 --> 1:11:36.960 wave was he was a step above on fashion. He 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:43.080 was a step above on all that. Jail naturally puts 1:11:43.120 --> 1:11:45.360 a step put you in a step behind. That's why 1:11:45.600 --> 1:11:48.439 I brung up Side. Yeah, I brung up Shine. I'm 1:11:48.439 --> 1:11:50.679 bring up certain people who did certain amount of time 1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:54.519 like jail puts a little rust on you. But it's 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:56.360 too much of like like what happened Shot, It was 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:58.639 too much of the public eye for his first bars 1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:00.439 is not to be looked at. I think it was College. 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:02.880 I think was DJ College who actually got the first 1:12:02.920 --> 1:12:06.560 show in verse, and I believe he rushed it and 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:12.840 it just took all the the what a better word, 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:15.880 the wave away from Shot. It's all the way because 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:18.439 everyone's like, man, maybe he lost it. Maybe because that's 1:12:18.520 --> 1:12:21.320 really what what's gonna happen with Max? Max? That first 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.440 record that he get on, he gonna have the flaming. 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:29.560 Is that something that you think that he does. He 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:32.200 need that time to get that rust off. No, that 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:35.599 definitely gotta happen. You got Yeah, that's what coach, thin 1:12:35.680 --> 1:12:37.679 didn't come out. You gotta come in and you gotta 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:40.200 do your push ups. You gotta you might want to 1:12:40.200 --> 1:12:42.640 do it. We gotta do deep research and homework like 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:44.720 come come on chance and I'm saying, you gotta do 1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:46.640 the right And now that that first record that you 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:53.320 recalled drops, No, the only gotta we gotta you guys 1:12:53.439 --> 1:12:56.320 to get in and go in and got to know, 1:12:57.160 --> 1:12:59.760 gotta know. And just like it said, the competition on 1:12:59.880 --> 1:13:04.120 the talgets okay, we got the talkets lined up. He's 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:07.240 definitely no, no, no, no. At this point, he's definitely 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:10.680 the O g right. Like he went from being a 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:13.600 little man that was destructed or looked at like he 1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:19.760 was like he's now coming home. There's gonna be like 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.559 I could see there, people are gonna be bowing to him. 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:25.120 I see these this new degeneration but if he come 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:29.000 home and one wrong move, yeah, because that they love 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:31.519 to tell you that it's gonna they pick you up. 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:34.679 And he comes home and he made one more more move. 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:37.560 I think that's what this music industry is about. So 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:39.360 what was you saying? I'm sorry, I feel like a 1:13:39.600 --> 1:13:43.200 na I said, we got um. Yeah, I gotta go 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:46.920 in and do the training is retraining now? Max always 1:13:46.960 --> 1:13:51.720 got some ship ship ship, but it's beat selection. Is 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:56.639 these beats and to changeable in compatible with these beats now? 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:01.120 Or we're just gonna say fun everything, go on your 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:04.000 own wave. Yeah, that's that's my next question saying or 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:08.120 different things. See that's what I do. That's actually a 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.000 line up? Was my next question? Your friend, what do 1:14:11.080 --> 1:14:12.559 you mean? What do you do you try to admit 1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:15.639 into today's music? Did you try to do your own? 1:14:15.920 --> 1:14:18.800 Like it's very hard. Ship You can do a little 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:20.400 bit of both. You create your own, but then you 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:23.479 start featuring on others to kind of like show that 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:26.160 you can. All that ship gotta be fired, all of it, 1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:28.679 got it. That's my job as producer. It's a looking 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:30.760 to all the dimensions and set up and have all 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:34.720 the dimensions ready. So other producers to hit you and say, yo, 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:37.240 this is for Max. You could be able to differentiate 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.439 your this beat is not for you. This beat for you. 1:14:39.640 --> 1:14:41.640 You can do know. It would be like, all right, 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:45.200 this is for two two Max, or this is for 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:49.280 this Max up. We don't even know yet two thousand 1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:54.599 and twenty, what is it? No? No, you come over 1:14:54.680 --> 1:14:58.760 three years so five, but we want the advanced version 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:03.040 of that. You want to right, I should see I 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:09.840 am so. But for the most part, you think he 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:12.439 could come and you think it got it got to be, well, 1:15:12.840 --> 1:15:15.080 well round it training, you know what I'm saying, The 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:19.479 different things, and it's just something retraining um because he 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.720 always got some ship. He always gotta slick as bar 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:24.840 and different things and waits to say it, you know 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:27.000 what I'm saying. But as far as like you know, 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:31.280 just watching the whole battlefield, you know what I'm saying, 1:15:31.320 --> 1:15:33.000 the different things, because it probably was a couple of 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:36.120 songs that probably came out and came through and I 1:15:36.280 --> 1:15:38.800 was like, who did that? Who allowed you? You know 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:41.840 what I'm saying, The different things, like, okay, who allowed that? 1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:44.960 You can't put anything out the same way you feel. 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:47.320 I was like, you can't put anything out. There's a 1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:48.880 lot of ship going on right now. You know what 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:51.640 I'm saying, it's a lot of repeating ship. It's a 1:15:51.720 --> 1:15:55.719 lot of you know, you know, disrespect to music today 1:15:55.720 --> 1:15:57.599 because I like a lot of it. But if remind 1:15:57.680 --> 1:16:01.200 me of a break a, it's the rhythm. Oh, everything 1:16:01.320 --> 1:16:03.120 is the same rhythm, the rhythm. You know what I'm saying. 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:05.439 What you got the rhythm. But that's what made those 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:08.240 artists so dope and regga is that gets the same 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:15.160 near them, but they made a whole So it's like 1:16:15.280 --> 1:16:18.080 it's a little like that. Now, that's what it is. Now, 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:20.519 you're right, Yeah, you know you catch the rhythm. Yeah, 1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:24.240 I ain't gonna lie, I'll be I'll be listening to 1:16:24.800 --> 1:16:27.439 I don't know who who who? Who? Ain't? I just 1:16:27.760 --> 1:16:30.360 I like the rhythm. Now that's my daughter. Who's this? 1:16:31.479 --> 1:16:37.320 I like because that like forty two dog my nephew too. 1:16:37.400 --> 1:16:41.360 He'd be playing all the super gangster like little Dirt, 1:16:41.720 --> 1:16:45.719 Yeah not dirt, going supervio crazy. Now I like about 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:50.360 them dudes. I just gotta you know, um Dirk ship chump, 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:54.320 he was hitting and then I guess you's just said nah, 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:57.000 I could be a super so I'm going superstar and 1:16:57.040 --> 1:16:59.320 he went superstar. Now I felt like that Drake record 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:03.839 was what him there and he was already becoming the superstar. 1:17:03.880 --> 1:17:05.799 But I think I think that was like the ultimate 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:08.719 push that made him let me, let me bounce around. 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.599 You know, you was around where a friends they beating 1:17:11.680 --> 1:17:14.200 with dip set, they beef in and now French and 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:18.360 and and Jimmy squashed the beef. How did you feel 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:23.800 about that? That's different? Okay, you know what I'm saying, 1:17:23.880 --> 1:17:26.960 that's um like I said, and even with Max and Jim, 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:29.720 like I wouldn't say, I'm not gonna say, Jim Joan, 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:32.200 I'm not doing that ship. You know what I'm saying. Max, 1:17:32.960 --> 1:17:34.680 you know, And even that's what I always say to 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:39.440 come up DVD because you know, as journalist, Doky Diamonds like, yeah, Nigel, 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:44.439 you know Max here, I'm just when the dogs like, 1:17:44.560 --> 1:17:50.120 so Greese, what's you think? Okay, Max Crease, don't think nothing. 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:51.720 He got nothing to do with this. This is me 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:55.400 so because you're not pulling me into all that political 1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:58.680 ship because I mean, technically I know Jim first, you know, 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:04.240 and it's Cam. You know, we all came out Mason Cameron. 1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.680 You know what I'm saying, was going and Jim was 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:11.400 holding Cam down. Jim would get jumped by twenty motherfucker's 1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:14.280 the holders man down, you know what I'm saying. So 1:18:14.600 --> 1:18:18.600 you know he was holding this man down. So we 1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:21.360 knew Jim as holding his man down. You know what 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.080 I'm saying, different ship. So, um, when it comes to 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:28.920 the maxif front, the maximum Jim Jones ship, you know 1:18:28.960 --> 1:18:32.759 what I'm saying, it definitely wasn't for me to jump 1:18:32.840 --> 1:18:36.439 in a cause i'mone for the protection around Max. Make 1:18:36.479 --> 1:18:41.120 sure he's straighten. Ain't nobody, ain't no where. Phone calls 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:44.439 like they used to come through through the hotline, Yo, 1:18:44.560 --> 1:18:47.320 twenties came through the seat. Twenties came through and yet 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:56.040 turn the cameral I saw you got god this ship. 1:18:56.560 --> 1:19:00.640 But you know, just certain different things. And and then 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:04.840 um see French is after we got off the mix 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:10.120 tape wave and different things. French came entirely politally clear, correct, 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:15.200 because I mean he knew on the gang banging side 1:19:15.360 --> 1:19:17.280 he wasn't gonna be the French that he is now. 1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:21.880 Almost pops off French, so he know that he had 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:25.760 to clean up a few ships and not funk with 1:19:25.880 --> 1:19:28.840 too many of the goon's to get to where he 1:19:28.920 --> 1:19:32.599 needed to be. Right, So you know, boom for Max 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:37.120 and us working together to Waka Flocker and Guci Man. 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:40.559 But we all heard the Gucci Man story. But Waker then, 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:44.320 um the Rick Rossa Piti Puff Daddy sonomy too. You 1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:46.639 know where you got to go to Drake different things. 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:50.040 You know what I'm saying that just you know, position himself, 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:53.280 French and small MOUs, you know, position himself and to 1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:55.880 get to where he needed to be at now you 1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:58.240 know what I'm saying. Internationally, French, Montin and Danny put 1:19:58.280 --> 1:20:02.240 out that fucking unforgettable wind right, But what did you 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:05.760 feel when um they said that they squashed the beat? 1:20:05.840 --> 1:20:08.560 Because I didn't. I didn't. I didn't feeling anything. I 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:10.360 didn't fit anything. Like you know what I'm saying. I 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.000 know what French is doing. You know what I'm saying, 1:20:13.040 --> 1:20:15.880 they'd be different and different ships. You know what I'm saying, Like, Um, 1:20:16.360 --> 1:20:18.720 I'm pretty sure we've we've been out there. We know 1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:21.439 what it's really out there, we know what the codes are, 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:25.960 we know what it is. But nowadays, because it's the 1:20:26.040 --> 1:20:28.400 only thing is out there, like that everybody else is 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:31.160 on some whole other shops like, you know what, let's 1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:35.439 go home. I'm going home. I thought it was still 1:20:35.439 --> 1:20:37.000 because there's one thing for them to squash it, but 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:39.240 there's another thing for them to get in each other's records, 1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:41.600 film videos together. I think one of them they was 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:44.559 in l A. The next one they were in New 1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:46.320 York and I think they shut down the highway. I 1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:49.719 thought that was dope because if people put energy into beating, 1:20:49.760 --> 1:20:52.680 you should put energy and like squashing and moving on, 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:55.040 like you know what I'm saying. So you we thought 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:59.000 Max and Jim was gonna be squash, but Jim ain't. 1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:01.840 He ain't so even with the even women. I think 1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:04.960 French he said something I think on Angie he's trying to, Okay, 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:07.760 do what he's trying to do. But like after the 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:12.280 French and Gym ship a right, Jim cool, French cool. 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:17.640 And let me just say I saw some of that 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:21.240 Angie Martinez interview with French want talent. You know she's 1:21:21.280 --> 1:21:24.080 still is a goat, yo know, she is still as 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:27.880 yo bro. She hasn't lost a step at all. And hey, 1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:30.000 I'm going into watching it like you know, being a 1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:32.200 little cocky like, you know, let me see what she 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:34.800 could do, and I'm like, yo, she's still like the goal. 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:37.000 So Angie, just in case you know, I bowed down 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:43.720 just watching a little piec Still, Angie, I ain't ain't 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:46.840 getting to finish watching the whole interview. So um, so, 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:49.479 what's your favorite part of the game. Is it making 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:54.280 the record or performing the record? I'm reducing I'm nothing 1:21:56.240 --> 1:22:02.479 being performed though, Bingo, Okay, that's your favorite. Dog. I 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:04.280 didn't go on the first tours. I mean I was 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:07.800 in the city with you. Okay, what I'm saying hard 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:12.639 knock life, the hard knock, but the survival, the Elston 1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:15.960 cash money to all that. I didn't go. I didn't 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:17.800 go on the tours, so you didn't see how your 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:21.600 records was reacted in stadiums. Not the dog had the 1:22:21.720 --> 1:22:29.599 world tour. Causso signed me dog, signed me up the world. 1:22:30.680 --> 1:22:34.960 You got to go back to it. Becuzzo signed me up, Dog, 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:38.599 sign me up. I'm a innomate to your niggas once again, 1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:42.360 be Cauz signed me up. Don't you gotta Tonics? Five times? 1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:47.519 So they are like, did you put on the alright? Cool, 1:22:47.680 --> 1:22:56.720 I'm on the now overseas different speaking everywhere. Man. We 1:22:56.800 --> 1:23:03.439 did about five shows in Germany. Pezzle, I don't know. Sorry, No, 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:07.840 he's the ambassador. I love I love door, but I 1:23:07.880 --> 1:23:17.000 want to see if my own hood Shepherd's Bush in London? What? Okay? 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:25.200 Where else? Germany? Else where? H everywhere Belgium, Germany and Insterdam, Switzerland. Um, 1:23:28.000 --> 1:23:30.040 now I ain't gonna get to the last show. For 1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:32.800 the last show, all these faces went crazy. I keep 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:35.559 forgetting that y'all call him because it always I'm always 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:40.519 two steps behind y'all. That's for Kiyo. That's what I know. 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:45.240 That's a show almost chopped all the up now it 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:49.200 was after him. He was a negotiation person. Negotiation so 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:55.800 era like beating Persian. Yeah, you know the crazy ship 1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:58.040 when I saw a dog on it. Then he said 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:02.479 the story it's the same as I can show. I'm like, yep, 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:06.519 yeah exactly. We had to call embassy, get down, then 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:12.320 jump on the trucks, sip out. They came. They speak Portuguese, 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:19.879 they were and he say NonStop cock. He can't speaks 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:25.160 he speaks Spanish right, but kept some words. You know 1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:29.200 what that's that's It's like, it's like, um, that's what brazilla. 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:33.840 That's yeah, okay and yeah yeah, but he no stopped 1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:36.360 heard the keyword. See, I'll let you know. He's doing 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:39.439 the role man. Everything is straight, everything's fine, and Non 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.760 saw him like, no, it's not. He said, y'all got 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:47.519 a problem if y'all try to leave. No, I stopped 1:24:47.600 --> 1:24:50.800 heard that. Whatever fucking language was, you know, it was 1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:53.800 comes of job. Everything it's gonna be cool, everything's good, 1:24:54.280 --> 1:25:05.280 everything's straight. The words gonna very optimistic. Never I learned 1:25:05.320 --> 1:25:12.880 the artist. The artists think everything that. Yeah, so you 1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:16.400 know we're like, oh, ship all right, and now I 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:18.960 ain't got I got a good mcgavaman. It just won't kicking. 1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:22.559 I'm like, okay, I take the button knife poked him 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:26.120 one soldier in the hallway, but get out the country 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:30.680 then not the way he just said soldier. So you're 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:34.479 fighting against them. Don't even like police. The police know 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:38.439 what I'm saying, like, like, you know, get to boom one, 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:40.920 grab the joint. You know, got a little trick, put 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:42.880 the finger behind the trigger, so I'm gonna go back 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:46.200 boom and poked them up and you know it's like yeah, 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:49.760 it's moved the cornback. But then boom, take that, get 1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:55.679 in the car, drive and then the thort process stopped. 1:25:55.720 --> 1:25:59.559 There is we going yea Africa? Yeah, we we're gonna 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:04.040 drive to the jungle next. What we had to call 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:08.120 the police? The U s SIMPAC. Don't say the police. 1:26:09.520 --> 1:26:11.479 That's what everybody is happy to be from the unit. 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:19.519 I never like got from Hollm. You're Americans. Yeah, yeah, 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:22.479 it means you used to go places like Brooklyns, like 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:24.920 world up. You can't do that in Africa. I think 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:29.760 even those dudes in the assassinated the president got pulled 1:26:29.760 --> 1:26:32.640 out by the U s MBAs. The Dosian Americans that 1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:34.519 were part of that creaty, they got pulled out by 1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:37.520 the being pulled out. They were part of that Colombian 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:40.879 hit squad and what they was locked up. Yeah, imagine 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:44.360 they killed the president. Everybody said that the U SMBC 1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:46.760 pulled the two Haitian because they're Americans. They pulled them out, 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:49.760 pulled them out, while the Colombians are getting tortured for information. 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:54.960 So what they allegedly to obey time. It's Haiti bro, 1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:57.160 it's not Cuba do I'm talking about what they said 1:26:57.200 --> 1:27:01.240 the Americans, though you said they is Haitian. But they Americans. 1:27:01.800 --> 1:27:03.479 You don't know what happened in Haiti? Yes, to kill 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:06.120 the president, right, so do Haitian Americans went in with 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:09.160 the Colombians, Okay, to do so? America grabbed the two. 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:14.320 They cut the Haitians. They caught them. They're doing with them. No, 1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:17.120 I don't know. They just the only one baby, they 1:27:18.400 --> 1:27:22.360 know not why they're back in US. That's the US. 1:27:24.720 --> 1:27:27.400 So where they got him? Know what I'm trying to say, 1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:29.000 They I don't even know if they're in trouble like 1:27:29.120 --> 1:27:32.519 that for killing the resident. They didn't leave them in 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:35.400 Haiti while the other ones are in Haiti under in custody. 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.360 The American with them. I don't know why would they 1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:40.880 would have left them there? Though. What I'm trying to 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:43.360 say is ultimately, like if the U. S Embassy saved 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:47.160 you guys. The Colombians are getting tortured over there, allegedly 1:27:49.080 --> 1:27:51.599 and Hatie, Yeah, because they're trying to figure out who 1:27:54.800 --> 1:28:03.320 they They got military, they got really Haitian man's stopping 1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:07.080 this man stop anyway, they got pulled out, they got 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:11.040 the US hooked them up. At least they're not getting torture. 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:12.759 They might be locked up here, but they're not tortured 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:20.639 in Haiti right now, so that I was just playing 1:28:20.680 --> 1:28:25.519 around around kid, But what then is happening with Cuba? 1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:30.639 What is that mean? Yeah, it's I mean, we don't 1:28:30.640 --> 1:28:31.840 know when this is going to come out, but it's 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:36.559 the first time since the revolution that the entire island 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:39.720 rose up against the government. So if they can. It's 1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:43.200 led by artists, by hip hop artists, by by urban 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:46.000 street you know, you like, the artists are the ones 1:28:46.040 --> 1:28:50.320 that led the movement. Yeah, against the government, against the government. 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.679 Everybody rolls up against the government. And right now, because 1:28:53.680 --> 1:28:56.080 I'm talking to people directly on the island, they're literally 1:28:56.160 --> 1:28:59.400 going house to house pulling out people who are riding, 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:01.479 people who are part of the their protesting, I mean 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:04.400 writing someplaces protest like anything else. And they're pulling them 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:07.400 out and they disappearing, not not the saying they're dying, 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:12.479 but they're they're disappearing. Then they're putting them locking them up. Huh. 1:29:14.479 --> 1:29:16.080 A lot a lot of artists. The artists were the 1:29:16.120 --> 1:29:19.719 first waiver. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Because 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:21.800 my homegirl from the movie Coming Home, the Nice Water 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:23.800 she's lived, she lives in Cuba. Right, she's the one 1:29:23.840 --> 1:29:28.920 communicating with me, one of the people. Yeah, God, bless God, 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:35.160 bless anybody happy to be American now, kid, Yeah, it's always. 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:36.880 It's always. Hey man, you could be a patriot and 1:29:36.920 --> 1:29:38.920 still want your country to be better. That's what That's 1:29:38.960 --> 1:29:41.680 what it's like. How better ship do you want? You want? 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:47.439 Horseshit bullshit? When you travel overseas as American, you realize, Okay, 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:49.600 I want to go back home. Y different, you know 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:51.439 what I'm saying. And that's that's the reality. And tell 1:29:51.560 --> 1:29:54.439 mcaveman didn't kick in, and that's the Mike Tysons after 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:56.519 you got in your ship. Yeah, okay, let's look at 1:29:56.520 --> 1:30:03.120 the one of my ideas. I go, you see the 1:30:03.160 --> 1:30:06.560 movie Hangover with Mikes, Like, that's it taken off, like 1:30:06.960 --> 1:30:12.960 you're getta knockba. Have you ever seen Mike because you 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:15.120 had it? You have you ever seen Mike said you 1:30:15.479 --> 1:30:18.599 you had the tattoo? Ain't seen I know Mike too, Remember, okay, 1:30:18.720 --> 1:30:20.720 but what if you're seeing me but he's take that 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:32.920 then you're just imagine like that because I'm scared of 1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:35.320 devil Mike. Right, It's just like it was pretty scary man, 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:42.240 Like he was being nice. It's a very intimidating. What 1:30:42.520 --> 1:30:44.280 I don't know about what you have a gun on 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.960 you And I'm still scared of Mike, like you people 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:50.680 talking you up. We met a couple of times, like 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:52.680 a shoppers whistle, like I'm at a one time on 1:30:52.760 --> 1:30:57.080 the Swift's like Greece. You said Mike is soft and swift. 1:30:58.479 --> 1:31:04.000 You know that that It was like Mike peace gree 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:06.559 Boom bang bang. There was a couple of years later, 1:31:06.800 --> 1:31:10.040 I'm like, michaelsoft Greece. They thinking crease know, like, oh ship, 1:31:10.760 --> 1:31:13.760 you know what I'm saying, shop you know, but you 1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:17.880 said if you missed, you know, like he was with 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:26.120 a guy. You just I'm just saying, I'm just giving 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:28.320 you us that, like Mike is a scary Mike man, 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:32.640 Mike is one of us. Yeah, beautiful warrior. Yeah what 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:34.800 I'm saying, like like you know, we all come from. 1:31:35.120 --> 1:31:43.280 But you see what he had. Yeah, yeah, that was 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:46.040 a different Mike right there. Yeah he was rubbing up 1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:50.760 to Mike. Mike. Yeah, he went back that ship right then. 1:31:51.120 --> 1:31:53.680 That ship, that ship was some piece of warrior Mike 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:56.080 and Mike. Mike, because you gotta like you gotta thick 1:31:56.160 --> 1:31:58.599 real fast. Once Mike tell you something back ship y'all 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:01.679 in the room like this you other things you gotta 1:32:02.040 --> 1:32:04.960 get Cafoe, I don't get what do you think you're game? 1:32:06.400 --> 1:32:11.880 And was like, come on man, little straight guy gets 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:15.160 asked that ever ever, so if you're getting asked that, 1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:20.120 you know this ain't good. Not good. I don't give 1:32:20.120 --> 1:32:23.439 any world safe with mask. When you see a man 1:32:23.600 --> 1:32:28.360 that's in you say so you get. Your first reaction 1:32:28.439 --> 1:32:31.360 first off is to act what the fun you're talking 1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:38.960 to Mike, thinking of the fun you're talking about, homie 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:44.080 that ain't happening. Holmies outside your homies is taking of 1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:47.639 my whole lot. I'm not running your holmies a second, 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:51.120 your niggas. You laugh, then outside the room like I'm 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:53.320 not sure if I'm running in Mike stars mikey, you 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:55.960 signed a waiver to go into that room. I feel 1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:57.720 I didn't read it, but it seemed like he said, 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:01.920 if you get sunked up, it's on you. I'll try 1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:03.639 to want me because I was late to the interview 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:08.800 and he's like, none, that signed, we gotta sign with us. 1:33:08.800 --> 1:33:19.040 When we're talking about that talking no, no, no, that's Mike, 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:21.400 Mike is a different type of dude. So who who who? 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:23.960 We asked who you would want to work with? What's 1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:28.080 your favorite artists to collaborate with? No? As I worked, 1:33:28.520 --> 1:33:30.800 as you work, Who who's your favorite that you worked with? Um? 1:33:32.200 --> 1:33:38.880 Who's easiest to work with? Favorite or both easiest? No? No, no, okay, 1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:42.080 but no, I mean nothing was wrong. Okay, let me 1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:45.240 get on superdu But like, um no, like, I don't. 1:33:45.520 --> 1:33:47.439 I ain't gonna lie like I ain't wanna. I'm a 1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:49.320 street nigger, you know what I'm saying. So it ain't 1:33:50.080 --> 1:33:54.439 it ain't really much that's gonna like throw me. I 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.519 mean I grew up with all the creepy Crawleys. I know, 1:33:56.600 --> 1:34:01.679 the creepy colies. So it's like says unique work unique, 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:08.040 that's good work work unique. Dirt who dirt ol dirty 1:34:08.080 --> 1:34:10.920 bastard or dirty bast Yeah okay, cool, I'd like that 1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:12.880 you call him Dirk. I love I love my guy. 1:34:13.560 --> 1:34:16.160 You know what I'm saying. Dirt work work together. Yeah, 1:34:16.240 --> 1:34:19.120 we um rush out of soundtrack. We didn't. You don't stop. 1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:20.880 You know what I'm saying. To record on that first 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:22.840 of it was just me and dirty and said, well 1:34:23.040 --> 1:34:24.800 him rapping me during the beat and then they put 1:34:24.880 --> 1:34:27.559 the whole War and that's back then, and then um, 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:31.040 he need Me did his last his last album, you 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:33.880 on it, Yeah, I am. I wanted a rail record 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:40.320 right now when I did I'm onna do I'm on 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:48.920 one high, don't do what? What? What? Yeah? Okay and 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:54.280 we can do it like this okay? Hell yeah. That 1:34:54.400 --> 1:34:57.080 was after he got out jail. He was kind of 1:34:57.160 --> 1:35:00.760 probably a little more sedated, you know, saying just ship, 1:35:00.840 --> 1:35:04.800 you know, just you know that means this ship not 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:10.600 quite the problem. You mean you mean he was like 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:14.200 to dated like purposely. Yeah, not legally, probably his medication 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:18.919 from doctor. Ok. I thought he just was different periods naturally, 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:23.600 but you mean like he was you know. Yeah. So 1:35:24.200 --> 1:35:28.600 he did his last album with Studio Upstate, and you 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:31.519 know he was he just was blank like I known 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:34.679 him already. Like I said, he did the Rushack Russia 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:37.640 soundtrack back then, and it was like right before he 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:39.439 passed away, and Ship, you know what I'm saying, he 1:35:39.600 --> 1:35:46.800 was just like cool hill, quiet dirt, like paled up. Yeah, 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:51.760 you know, but legally medication not nothing else. I used 1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:55.080 to talk with my mouth never moved. Did you know 1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:58.639 of my mom? I was saying something, but my mouth 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:01.479 didn't move. It was just like probably saying that seems 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:04.400 like when I was in jail. So my mother came 1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:06.960 to see him. Look like, that's what they put me 1:36:07.000 --> 1:36:08.760 on this I was. I was getting in trouble too 1:36:08.800 --> 1:36:12.600 much as they hit me with that. You know what 1:36:12.600 --> 1:36:14.840 I'm saying. So um so you know he was in 1:36:14.880 --> 1:36:17.120 there and ship, so he just cried Dirt was good, 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:20.639 You're good. You know what I'm saying. Because I would 1:36:20.640 --> 1:36:23.200 rent the front studio room out, it was only two 1:36:23.280 --> 1:36:25.360 things that I was getting his reaction. It was my 1:36:25.479 --> 1:36:32.280 man wife Sean. I'll be like, you're like, yo, what 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:39.960 sun I said? Dirt? Yeah, I'm like dirt. He was 1:36:40.000 --> 1:36:41.880 a double backer, you know what I'm saying. It was like, 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:46.680 all right, gem that gets to kick in like that. 1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:53.280 But you know she was a gangslation cool boom boom boom. 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.760 And then I think I was making um the move 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:59.439 backbeat that he jumped on the remix and that ship 1:36:59.560 --> 1:37:01.760 woke them out of it, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:08.960 I was in the other room, huh huh, and I 1:37:09.040 --> 1:37:12.679 just saw the door creep over real slow. You peeked 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:15.800 in yo, gee, you worked the ship out that try 1:37:15.920 --> 1:37:21.160 yea yo, you worked that Yo, that's dope, NIGGI you 1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:24.960 want to get on it? Yeah, fifteen minutes. Brother, First 1:37:25.000 --> 1:37:28.120 he was bad, you know what I'm saying, and did 1:37:28.240 --> 1:37:30.840 um the whole I think the albums for land Speed 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:35.000 or something. Okay, you did it and ship? Okay? No, 1:37:37.720 --> 1:37:43.280 well grease do versus? Huh will grease do versus? I've 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:51.120 done versus? No, you didn't do versus? What are you talking? Right? No? 1:37:52.360 --> 1:38:07.800 Two thousands bad like versus versus. Not that type of 1:38:07.920 --> 1:38:14.400 versus horses versus. No, No, we know you not that 1:38:14.520 --> 1:38:18.920 we know, but do so on that? But battle, um, 1:38:19.520 --> 1:38:21.160 what you want about it? If you if you had 1:38:21.200 --> 1:38:23.439 a choice, it came to you. The price was right, 1:38:23.720 --> 1:38:29.320 time was right, the venue. I don't know from what 1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:35.400 I'm hearing been lately. Okay, yeah, I don't know, man, 1:38:35.600 --> 1:38:38.840 because like this this this Cameron ain't coming out for 1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:46.000 less a check. So trust man can don't move, he don't, 1:38:46.479 --> 1:38:52.320 He'll leave his driveway in the count. So um, I 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:55.760 don't know, man. I would really say, you know what 1:38:56.439 --> 1:38:58.280 if you could just sid' doing one. Let's just say 1:38:58.320 --> 1:39:01.719 you did consider doing one. Who did you want to battle. 1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:07.440 It's kind of bank. No, that's so bro, but it's 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:16.640 it could be like yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, 1:39:16.840 --> 1:39:19.760 all right, what you would want to hear that ship 1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:27.839 against yours? U p K E L. I don't dispect 1:39:27.880 --> 1:39:30.680 to come about cheese what I'm saying. But just far 1:39:30.720 --> 1:39:34.400 as the colorfulness of catalog, you know what I'm saying, 1:39:34.520 --> 1:39:38.040 it's a difference. You know, I spent my career making 1:39:38.080 --> 1:39:41.599 a colorful catalog and taking chances of risk with other 1:39:41.640 --> 1:39:44.400 people like you do hate that. Shoot, you know what 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:50.040 I'm saying. I'm trying to get to ten thousand, right, 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:54.120 you know what I'm saying. So I used to hust 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:57.880 only job I have with something crack been doing music, 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:00.439 so not an add a gram up when it was 1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:05.479 yeah that was so. Who do you think if they 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:12.519 came to you? Right? I don't know who would you 1:40:12.600 --> 1:40:16.400 think I'm thinking right now? Because his mainstream hits there's 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:21.160 on the ground spectaculars. Yeah, but it's twenty it'sut is 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:25.880 just fucking you know what I'm saying. All around hip 1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:30.840 hop classics, I think I got a perfect one. I 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:33.519 think ALCMS would be a good matchup. I like that. 1:40:35.000 --> 1:40:36.680 I like that, But you know I was taking the 1:40:36.760 --> 1:40:42.800 Coast to coast battle cattle Cat. He's fire, he's five. 1:40:45.840 --> 1:40:48.559 But come on, they've gotta be a wh who've done 1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:50.439 a record that you said? Damn, I wish I would 1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:56.439 have produced. They never like for producing if we're only 1:40:56.520 --> 1:40:58.439 coming out the house though now he's not coming out. Yeah, 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:01.759 it's not even thinking now, but producer, I like, actually, 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:03.759 I mean it might be shocking. I like all Kelley's 1:41:03.800 --> 1:41:07.439 producer Kelly as a producer. We gotta relax what we 1:41:07.479 --> 1:41:11.760 say saying I wanted to sound kind of crazy Kelly 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:13.320 as a producer. So you want to do you want 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:16.640 to bat r Kelly and versus I'm not bad at 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:22.639 all Kelly at all. He wants like all of them 1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:27.040 joints the producer Kelly. I read the credits. Yeah, so 1:41:27.160 --> 1:41:31.240 his publishing is crazy then, I mean or scoff I 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:33.880 didn't know Scoffs was producing all the back that he 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:37.559 was on faces in my studio playing Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:40.439 he's crazy like that. He's crazy like that. Damn. Let's 1:41:40.479 --> 1:41:43.280 let's look. I would say p K two, but that's 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:48.720 like too much. Yeah, it's it's it's family and not 1:41:48.960 --> 1:41:53.439 just you know, discredit anything, but you know, mostly PK 1:41:53.760 --> 1:41:57.280 joints is just for excellent locks. They fire one so 1:41:57.520 --> 1:42:03.360 that stick out, don't get it twisted producers. Yeah, anybody 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:07.679 draining around, Yeah, with draining, I might need a bucket. 1:42:07.720 --> 1:42:10.439 I might need a late real quick. I'm gonna take 1:42:10.880 --> 1:42:12.559 We're gonna go. We've got bathrooms. Brother, you don't need 1:42:12.600 --> 1:42:18.519 a block. We can take it. I don't know, man, 1:42:18.600 --> 1:42:20.680 because I'm kind of thought about I don't know, like, 1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:30.320 h get him that credit. That would be a good 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:32.720 I think that versus would be good right there. That 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:40.920 the whole Oh, it would be a fun one, not 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:45.600 shame raw Lawrence would be a fun one, I know, 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:50.760 trust me. Was only the same studio. I raped a 1:42:50.800 --> 1:42:55.080 whole lot spudget and they were sitting in piss half 1:42:55.160 --> 1:42:58.479 Niggers was like Greece dope all the knicks like what 1:42:58.680 --> 1:43:06.840 this new nigga? Now, you wasn't easy helping down with 1:43:06.920 --> 1:43:11.760 them too. You gotta understand, Like, think about the Mark 1:43:11.880 --> 1:43:16.759 Ride Carvey remix with the locks on it. Think about 1:43:16.960 --> 1:43:23.880 you see all that bad boy that was the puff 1:43:24.000 --> 1:43:26.439 just was on the record and doing that. But there 1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:28.919 was dumb nicks like this and ship had the mixtapes 1:43:29.000 --> 1:43:34.200 on crazy blocks. That's what I'm saying, like crazy and 1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:36.400 it's a different suit, like you know what I'm saying. 1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:39.599 Like like I said, I got mainstream part of my kellogg, 1:43:39.680 --> 1:43:41.640 but most of it and a lot of it is 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:46.080 street in different things I don't have. I don't have 1:43:47.280 --> 1:43:52.840 uh many critical tracks like that. I got him, you know, 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:55.840 I got him. We're gonna have to highlight that he's 1:43:55.920 --> 1:43:58.160 not drinking. But he was the first guest ever. Sad 1:43:58.200 --> 1:44:01.680 you gotta bucking around here. I'm just right here, right here. 1:44:02.200 --> 1:44:12.960 He's not drinking us. We got back from brother, we 1:44:13.040 --> 1:44:18.439 got a bathroom budget. I love me ready, but I 1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:22.360 think we haven't stopped. So how about lodge professor? What 1:44:22.439 --> 1:44:25.640 you think about that? Nice? That's a good one. Have 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:30.120 you ever watch persons? Yeah? Okay, alright, cool? Actually what's 1:44:30.160 --> 1:44:34.040 the last best? I can't wait for the locks? And okay, 1:44:34.360 --> 1:44:39.800 So so pulling this out after this would be out 1:44:39.880 --> 1:44:42.559 part of the week after. So who are you? Who 1:44:42.600 --> 1:44:46.320 are you? Who are you betting on? So? Man, who's 1:44:46.320 --> 1:44:53.519 your money gone? Who taking a shot? Back out? Who're taking? 1:44:53.960 --> 1:44:58.680 Because you got the technical, got the give my homes 1:44:59.200 --> 1:45:01.160 on whatever? Come on to me, like I gonna take 1:45:01.200 --> 1:45:04.120 this shot like I'm technical with it, you know what 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:10.080 I'm saying. Like now, Cam, he was battling rapid before 1:45:10.120 --> 1:45:13.080 any of us got on, So which is niggas in 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:16.519 the park, So that means something. And my very first 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:21.000 single live Alynics, Cam came through Good Morning America and 1:45:21.200 --> 1:45:23.439 he's haul embroid to the same as That's why guy 1:45:23.520 --> 1:45:28.280 got got all right, But my Platinum records and everything 1:45:28.439 --> 1:45:32.840 came from the Locks. You know what I'm saying. When 1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:40.360 I went to both both again, I went to Yonkers, 1:45:40.400 --> 1:45:42.040 you know what I'm saying. That's why I was like, oh, 1:45:42.760 --> 1:45:45.320 because you know where you from, you a little arrogant. 1:45:45.800 --> 1:45:48.320 Ain't nobody else hot in the world? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 1:45:49.000 --> 1:45:51.439 And then you went to Yonkers like these nickles spent 1:45:51.520 --> 1:45:56.519 my Okay, damn, you know what I'm saying. But I can't. 1:45:56.560 --> 1:46:00.519 I mean, I'm like the she got the oh in 1:46:00.560 --> 1:46:05.240 the Locks that part of the you, Yeah, I can't. 1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:08.560 I can't wait either. I was going to try to 1:46:08.640 --> 1:46:13.640 go actually attending the crowd, but I think we got 1:46:13.800 --> 1:46:16.719 three things to do out here that those those two days, 1:46:16.760 --> 1:46:19.479 you know, it's only one day. I think it's agus third, right, yeah, 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:23.000 my guy trying to get we got August third. Oh 1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:27.800 that's already silk. Oh yeah, so the motherfucker shock he was. 1:46:29.080 --> 1:46:32.479 He's allowed on this holy ship speaking a lot. I know, 1:46:32.560 --> 1:46:34.759 we spoke about a little bit, y'all didn't speak about yacord. 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:36.920 You know, I never never wanna ended. So but I'm 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:39.280 I'm live on this okay, because I was like the 1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:43.360 first I'm not supposed to commercial excuse me, compilation album, 1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:45.519 I ever kind of seen like what DJ Klin for 1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:47.720 lack of a better term, is doing now. I kind 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:50.920 of seen you do that first. Like at first, I 1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:53.400 didn't even know what the compilation was. When you hit me, 1:46:53.439 --> 1:46:55.000 I was like, yeah, I got to mention in my compilation. 1:46:55.040 --> 1:46:58.280 I was like, yeah, whatever. I actually technically didn't know 1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:06.320 back then. So when was that? Two? Wow? Wow? All right, 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:09.000 So what made you want to want to do accompolation? 1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:14.439 The thing was just like um um, I had artists. 1:47:14.640 --> 1:47:16.519 I had artists needed before us at to produced with 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:18.040 her fathers. You know what I'm saying. There was always 1:47:18.080 --> 1:47:20.760 making a lot, and like I saw that our group, 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:22.640 like you know, the way we started like you know, 1:47:22.760 --> 1:47:25.960 fifteen sixteen and ship and we had our group, and 1:47:26.000 --> 1:47:28.000 then more Niggers came and saw a rapping and I 1:47:28.120 --> 1:47:30.960 made demo group. The more Niggers, I made dem a group, 1:47:31.520 --> 1:47:33.479 and then some of the Niggers viewle was actually getting 1:47:33.520 --> 1:47:35.920 too wild and some of the guys like, yo, you're 1:47:35.960 --> 1:47:38.040 doing too wild much or too wild, and we just 1:47:38.120 --> 1:47:40.880 made them a cool group. So we was actually doing 1:47:40.920 --> 1:47:43.639 a label thing already. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:47:43.920 --> 1:47:46.240 what I'm saying with no money though, but you know, 1:47:46.760 --> 1:47:50.559 we're just doing crazy saying talent shows and beating everybody down, 1:47:50.600 --> 1:47:53.120 you know what, you know, just New York City. Yeah, 1:47:54.040 --> 1:47:56.880 nobody better than us. Happen ball fights and ship. But 1:47:59.120 --> 1:48:04.439 it um after like I said, doing X album, locks album, 1:48:04.560 --> 1:48:07.840 different things and ship and I'm like, all right, put 1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:13.120 the album out. I'm not a rapper, so what the 1:48:13.160 --> 1:48:14.720 funk I'm gonna do. Like you know, I actually did 1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:17.800 rapping one song, but I was just working. But at 1:48:17.880 --> 1:48:20.160 the same time, I'm like, all right, let me just 1:48:20.280 --> 1:48:22.200 call anybody up and me hit up. I think he 1:48:22.320 --> 1:48:24.760 was just coming up body in the Trump and I 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:27.599 was like, yeah, that was going I hit you up. 1:48:28.200 --> 1:48:30.760 You know what I'm saying, Um, yeah, find him chapped 1:48:30.840 --> 1:48:34.000 on there with you. Um, I think I did ghetto 1:48:34.080 --> 1:48:36.800 presses for now It's around the same time. So I 1:48:36.920 --> 1:48:39.760 hit him up. He came there, want to play rough 1:48:40.520 --> 1:48:43.519 um Scarface even notice I picked him. It was always 1:48:43.600 --> 1:48:48.160 one of my favorite, my favorite artists, hit Face up. Um. 1:48:48.720 --> 1:48:51.640 I did my my deal as a joint venture with 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:55.160 Promity because I didn't want to sign directly to the 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:57.960 labels because I was getting checks from the labels average 1:48:58.000 --> 1:49:01.000 the bad Boy. I'm in the whole death Chain building 1:49:01.720 --> 1:49:04.160 and I'm like, I love what Master p door. You 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:05.960 know what I'm saying. One of my ideas as far 1:49:06.040 --> 1:49:07.720 as like all right, come on, we're gonna do this ship, 1:49:07.760 --> 1:49:10.280 you know what I'm saying. So I was actually following 1:49:10.320 --> 1:49:13.280 master Pace steps, you know what I'm saying. So I 1:49:13.400 --> 1:49:18.759 went to Priority out West different things, and no limit 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:21.240 was on there. And when I got to the building, 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:23.960 that's for me and p Man and he was getting 1:49:24.000 --> 1:49:26.439 me all type of points this ship. And in fact, 1:49:26.960 --> 1:49:30.680 real story, Andrew Shack was the president one time. I 1:49:30.720 --> 1:49:34.799 remember flying out Thicks. I'm like, niggas is playing games 1:49:34.920 --> 1:49:36.800 with letting the budget loose and ship, you know what 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:40.240 I'm saying. And I was smart because I wanted to 1:49:40.280 --> 1:49:44.280 wile out, but I know my wile out in the backseats, 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:48.280 you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, fuck pist off, 1:49:48.800 --> 1:49:51.000 huffing the puff around the office. People like, yo, let 1:49:51.040 --> 1:49:53.080 me say you how to do this ship boot kick 1:49:53.120 --> 1:49:55.400 the doorp in Jo Shock, my man got something to say. 1:49:55.880 --> 1:49:57.360 And you're sitting there with all my apps and ship 1:49:57.960 --> 1:50:01.479 apps like Andrew Shock was like, oh you were him. 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:06.559 Oh my god. I'm like, that's how you do it, hey, 1:50:06.640 --> 1:50:09.920 Nickel Freeman, motherfucker budget up. You know what I'm saying. 1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:12.680 And boom. You know you're not to move around. I mean, 1:50:12.720 --> 1:50:14.800 you know, probably to do a couple of times. Yeah, 1:50:15.640 --> 1:50:17.880 you know what I'm saying. So we just saw the making. 1:50:17.920 --> 1:50:20.240 Some things happened. I'm like, Pete, I'm doing an album 1:50:20.840 --> 1:50:23.920 Boom song fourth with some of silk. Let me get silk, Boom, 1:50:24.040 --> 1:50:27.840 you're silk, So going on the joint, don't limit go 1:50:27.960 --> 1:50:31.439 and make a lot, make some noise. That so now 1:50:31.720 --> 1:50:34.120 so now and people see you, they're gonna notice a 1:50:34.160 --> 1:50:38.200 whole dramatic rate change rate laws for you. And you 1:50:38.320 --> 1:50:40.439 first walked in, you told me that you was it. 1:50:40.720 --> 1:50:42.200 You thought you was battling or something, So you want 1:50:42.240 --> 1:50:45.880 to share that with the people now. Actually, um, at 1:50:45.880 --> 1:50:50.160 the operation, actually right after it was on ex funeral. 1:50:50.200 --> 1:50:53.640 It was the Barkley Center, which was like that Saturday, 1:50:53.880 --> 1:50:57.200 and then um that Sunday was the funeral and like 1:50:57.360 --> 1:50:59.400 right after the funeral, had to jump on the hobbics 1:50:59.439 --> 1:51:01.800 out out of our o eraction. The next day, you 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:04.320 know what I'm saying. And Dad to check my chest 1:51:05.280 --> 1:51:08.880 because last year I had a lung infection. What I'm saying, 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:10.920 you had to check. People thought it was COVID wasn't. 1:51:11.680 --> 1:51:14.240 I'm saying. I had to check my chest for you know, 1:51:14.439 --> 1:51:17.600 lung affection to make sure what's the cancers. So you 1:51:17.680 --> 1:51:19.439 know they cutting the po where they put me, sweep, 1:51:19.800 --> 1:51:22.800 cutting neck open, got tissue samples, blood samples, you know, 1:51:22.840 --> 1:51:24.439 all the good ship you know what I'm saying, Boom, 1:51:24.840 --> 1:51:28.479 they'll all in there. So um they checked from the 1:51:28.560 --> 1:51:32.400 cancer but cancer free, nothing in there, you know, God bless. 1:51:35.600 --> 1:51:38.200 And they had because what you said, because you said, 1:51:38.520 --> 1:51:41.200 what was it a dirty level? What was it? I 1:51:41.280 --> 1:51:43.280 had a lung effect affect. You know what I'm saying, 1:51:43.360 --> 1:51:45.160 which you actually had to get a blood clout in 1:51:45.240 --> 1:51:47.920 my life Oh wow, I'm saying, you know, the crazy 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:51.280 shit this is half while smoking. Everything happened after I 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:54.840 stopped smoking cigarettes and drinking. Wow, what do you think 1:51:55.720 --> 1:51:58.280 the cause? You know now, I think my body was 1:51:58.680 --> 1:52:04.120 was was used to smoke so many years. Right. You 1:52:04.160 --> 1:52:07.439 know what I'm saying, what withdraw cold turkey and I'm 1:52:07.479 --> 1:52:12.240 one of the type of intelligent dickheads. I'm done. That's 1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:17.400 a body said, No, I'm shot. You know what I'm saying. 1:52:17.479 --> 1:52:21.400 So you know they tested boom uh. First test came 1:52:21.439 --> 1:52:23.760 back negative. Trying to let it grow for a couple 1:52:23.760 --> 1:52:27.120 of moms. Negative growth for a couple of moments, still negative, 1:52:27.360 --> 1:52:32.280 So cancer free. I'm good, God bless God. So now 1:52:32.320 --> 1:52:36.720 all right, now this is um. I remember getting I 1:52:36.840 --> 1:52:42.840 believe it was a CD huh, And I believe this 1:52:42.960 --> 1:52:45.840 is how it happened. Me and Oas was on the 1:52:45.880 --> 1:52:49.760 way of the studio jungle and the dude was playing 1:52:49.800 --> 1:52:52.679 around with this idea. But we get to the studio. 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:58.200 I played nos a bunch of beans, then I put 1:52:58.280 --> 1:53:01.840 on the grease beat and I remember us just laying 1:53:01.920 --> 1:53:05.320 this ship in twenty minutes, like no exaggeration. As soon 1:53:05.400 --> 1:53:08.560 as it came on body in the trunk and I 1:53:08.680 --> 1:53:10.960 remember you just giving me the beat tape, and I 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:13.080 remember me calling you that night and you come into 1:53:13.120 --> 1:53:15.880 the studio, but I never asked you how to How 1:53:16.280 --> 1:53:18.000 did you because I remember you actually said you, I 1:53:18.040 --> 1:53:21.040 think you should make the intro a little longer and 1:53:21.240 --> 1:53:23.599 you have to speak about I think. But I never 1:53:23.760 --> 1:53:25.720 asked you, like how did you feel that night? Like 1:53:25.880 --> 1:53:28.559 because like it wasn't like I called yourself using your beat. 1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:30.040 I just used you. You gave you had to. I 1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:31.800 had to beat tape for a while. As soon as 1:53:31.880 --> 1:53:34.000 Nois heard the beat, we just started writing, like me 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:35.800 and him like literally didn't even speak to each other. 1:53:35.840 --> 1:53:37.600 It was just like yo, he said, I'm gonna say this, 1:53:37.600 --> 1:53:39.080 I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this, and we 1:53:39.160 --> 1:53:42.160 did it. So you kind of heard almost complete record 1:53:42.200 --> 1:53:44.280 when you first heard it. Like how did you feel 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:47.600 like when you when it hit factory? I think it 1:53:47.680 --> 1:53:51.240 was a hit factory over the new hit Factory, not 1:53:51.360 --> 1:53:53.640 the old one. And you came down and how did 1:53:53.680 --> 1:53:56.080 you subscribe? When you walk in the studio, Man, it 1:53:56.240 --> 1:53:59.800 was like y'all understand, like um definitely coming to the game, 1:54:00.120 --> 1:54:03.120 like y'all was in the game like before. So I'm 1:54:03.160 --> 1:54:05.600 a fan already. You know what I'm saying. I'm a 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:10.280 fan of you fan uh Son, you know what I'm saying. 1:54:10.320 --> 1:54:12.640 And just ship you have said something to me that night. 1:54:12.680 --> 1:54:14.800 I don't know if you remember. Yeah, it was like 1:54:14.920 --> 1:54:19.000 your Greece. I feel were going to know what you're 1:54:19.080 --> 1:54:24.479 for a long year anything, anything that's going on. And 1:54:24.600 --> 1:54:26.639 it's been like that. It's been like that ever since 1:54:26.640 --> 1:54:29.719 I was in that clear sound like this thing is magical. 1:54:31.320 --> 1:54:35.040 It's really you know what, this is really my my 1:54:35.280 --> 1:54:38.040 first like really theatrical record. That's why when you said 1:54:38.200 --> 1:54:42.240 Theantrica earlier, Um, it was crazy because I remember that 1:54:42.360 --> 1:54:44.760 was not his only thing I had had. We have 1:54:44.920 --> 1:54:48.160 already had I loved my life, um, and I thought 1:54:48.160 --> 1:54:50.000 I was gonna use it with him on there. I 1:54:50.040 --> 1:54:52.720 already had all these other records with him. He was like, Yo, 1:54:52.800 --> 1:54:55.440 let's do a concept record. And then this was just 1:54:55.520 --> 1:55:01.440 the perfect record. And to this day that's the most record. 1:55:01.520 --> 1:55:03.480 People always ask me to make a part too, too, 1:55:04.080 --> 1:55:06.960 and it's just like, you know, like without all those 1:55:07.040 --> 1:55:09.880 elements at that time. But but again, like what was 1:55:09.960 --> 1:55:11.920 that moment when you know, because I like cool, you 1:55:12.000 --> 1:55:13.600 know me and you have had a relationship. You had 1:55:13.640 --> 1:55:16.080 gave me a me tape. But this is Nas now 1:55:16.240 --> 1:55:18.200 like like you knows just that bar when you came 1:55:18.240 --> 1:55:20.800 in and you're a complete record with Norria Nas talking 1:55:20.800 --> 1:55:22.920 about body and what was you saying in your mind? 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:31.160 Now it was fucking magical, Like you understand, Like Norrie Naskarball, 1:55:31.960 --> 1:55:35.280 I'm like niggas on the mat, I'm gonna make a master, 1:55:36.080 --> 1:55:42.240 do you know what I'm saying? Boom and the right 1:55:42.320 --> 1:55:45.560 to the thing, but the story, you know what I'm saying. 1:55:45.720 --> 1:55:49.160 And then after that, something's like you got more those 1:55:50.080 --> 1:55:52.320 I'm like yeah, and that's when we did get a person. 1:55:52.480 --> 1:55:57.440 So that god damn makes a noise that crazy. I 1:55:57.480 --> 1:55:59.360 don't know if you know our shows about giving people 1:55:59.400 --> 1:56:02.560 the flower Man giving people, they usually drink at this top. 1:56:02.640 --> 1:56:04.080 But I figured, you know what, if you ain't drinking, 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:05.440 I'm gonna guy out it out with you. You know 1:56:05.480 --> 1:56:07.280 what I'm saying. So that's what reason want to drink. 1:56:07.280 --> 1:56:09.480 But I see you got the flowers sweater. You know 1:56:09.520 --> 1:56:12.800 what I'm saying. He's he's a butterinos. You know what 1:56:12.800 --> 1:56:16.880 I'm saying, Like, come on, got that made even But 1:56:17.040 --> 1:56:18.880 let me just tell you something for real, because you 1:56:18.920 --> 1:56:21.040 know I usually do this while I'm taking shots at whatever, 1:56:21.400 --> 1:56:23.040 but I figured, you know, you ain't drinking. I ain't 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:27.440 wanna um uh you know you know what? Yeah, exactly, 1:56:27.760 --> 1:56:29.240 So I want to tell you to your face. Man, 1:56:29.280 --> 1:56:31.680 you're a legend. You're a guy that you know, you 1:56:32.160 --> 1:56:35.080 in every different era. You're a guy that gets props 1:56:35.120 --> 1:56:37.680 and in most places. But I want you to get 1:56:37.720 --> 1:56:39.400 more props. You know what I'm saying, because you really 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:42.960 deserve that. Really a great guy, you really, um you know, 1:56:43.880 --> 1:56:46.840 you're really made a real staple in this game. And 1:56:46.920 --> 1:56:49.120 in case people didn't know that pace, nobody didn't tell you. 1:56:49.120 --> 1:56:50.760 I'm gonna tell you that to your face. I wanna 1:56:50.760 --> 1:56:53.840 tell you that I'm drunk. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1:56:54.880 --> 1:56:57.280 you know what I'm saying, And you deserve your flowers. 1:56:57.320 --> 1:56:59.200 You're a real good guy. You're one of the greatest 1:56:59.240 --> 1:57:05.680 producers of all time, and we wanted to get so 1:57:05.840 --> 1:57:09.040 we're going, we're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just 1:57:09.080 --> 1:57:10.520 do the picture and then you gotta do some drops. 1:57:10.840 --> 1:57:14.840 All right. Cool again. Thanks for joining us for another 1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:17.440 episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, d j 1:57:17.640 --> 1:57:19.960 e f N and n O r E. Please make 1:57:20.000 --> 1:57:22.240 sure to follow us on all our socials. 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