1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: It is officially October for a lot of places, some seasons, 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: some new seasons are kicking off, and that's exciting. All 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: this all this knowledge that we get throughout the year, 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: you get to put into action during hunting season. So 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: that's what I get excited about. And I also get 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: excited about checking the mail satchel. Normally I called the 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: male Sack, but for some reason today Satchell just sounds 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: seems fancier. So we're gonna go to the male satchel 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: today and answer your questions. There's a lot of good 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: questions about l hunting. There's I mean, just as many 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: questions as I got. I got testimonials, people sending pictures 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: of Well, here's one right here from Gerald Baker. He says, Remy, 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: this is my first archery dear. This is all you 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: learning the tactics, understanding how to practice with my boat, 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: understanding the wind, understanding how animals think. Even skull Boil 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: learned it from your podcast. Great picture of a really 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: good white tail buck here. Congrats man. A lot of 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: good stuff coming in from people using tactics to to 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: harvest their first elk. It's pretty stoked on these. So 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: we're going to head to the male satchel and start 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: answering some of these questions. First question, this can be 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: like rapid fire right here, comes from Tyler. He says, 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: do you recommend ten by forty two or eight by 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: forty two binoculars? I would say ten by forty two. 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I feel like they're a little bit more versatile, a 31 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: little bit more magnification, especially for western hunting. Now, one 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: thing that wasn't recommended in here or asked about in here. 33 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Ten by fifties are not bad. I actually just got 34 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: a pair of um Vortex uh D ten by fifties 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be running those on this next hunt. 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: The nice thing about the little bit wider field of 37 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: view is you've got that magnification, but then you've got 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: that wide field of view, so you can cover a 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: little bit more with your eyes. At the same time, 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: also a little bit more light gathering low light. The 41 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: only downside when you start to get into the fifty 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: mill objective is the whole set of binos becomes bigger, heavier. 43 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: You need kind of like a different bino pack. Um. 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I would say that's really the only the downside. But 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: my standard go to binocular would be ten by forty two, 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: just it's universal, it's easy to recommend. Um, it's good 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: for a lot of different scenarios, and then if you 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: don't necessarily hunt like open stuff, you can still use 49 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: them in timbered situations as well. Eight by forty twos though, 50 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: can be really good if you like that. So that 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: eight by four two is gonna give you a larger 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: field of view, so you can actually see more in 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: one glance. Um, it's really good, especially if you're hunting 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more timbered country, and then you do 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: have those long spots as well. But I would say 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: gold standard on by noses the ten by forty twos, 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: and then you know, kind of newer into the world 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: of binoculars is getting just a little bit bigger with 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the ten by fifties. I'm just I kind of like 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: that option for a little bit. While wider field of 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: view more like gathering. So those are my suggestions. Okay, 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: this question comes from Kyle. He says, thanks for all 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: your info, Remy. We just wrapped up my first elk hunt. 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Day one, got in real close to a bowl that 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: we didn't know was there and he hissed at us. 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Day three ended up calling in a a moose in, 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: but we didn't have a moose tag. Day five we 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: had one fired up, got on him three times inside sixty. 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: It was both are first times elk hunting, so I 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: know we fouled it up. It was still amazing. Anyways, 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: my question is about reading sign. How do you know 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: how old it is? We had some snow a couple 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: of days before our hunts, so tracks in the snow 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: we knew were recent. But what else can we look at? Okay, 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that I I key in 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: on when it comes to sign. I was working in 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: some places in Africa and got to spend some time 78 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: with some people that are just incredible trackers. I actually 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: got to to follow some actual bushman tracking one and 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: it's like what they see and what they know is 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: some incredible It's like just an incredible skill that I 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: think is it takes a lifetime of learning. I think 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: sometimes the idea of tracking for most hunters is kind 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: of like this, like mystical art that never really gets 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: talked about or or or I just don't think there's 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: many people that are real good at it. But I 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: think most people aren't really good at it because, um, 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of practice. And that's something that 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: I've learned over the years is to be a good tracker, 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: to to really be able to read sign well, you 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: need to spend time analyzing it and and and understanding 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: what it looks like. But a few just like basic 93 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: things obviously scat how like when I come up on 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: elk crap or deer crab or whatever, Um, I generally 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: mush it. I generally will probably even touch it. Um. 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: You know, you can tell, like something really fresh is 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: the color of it, the viscosity of it. Like if 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: it looks wet and slimy and shiny, then it's probably 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: pretty fresh. If you break into it, it's like kind 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: of looks fresh on the outside, but then you can 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: tell it's more dried out, then it's a little bit older. Um. 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: If you don't want to use your boots, use a stick, 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: but just prodding scat um actually tends to be something 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: that I find myself doing a lot to see how 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: fresh it is when it comes to tracks. You know, 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: when there's no snow, a couple of the things you've 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: got to kind of think about. So the first is 108 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: whether it's snow or whatever. Kind of think about the 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: time and day and the um and like what the 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: weather had been doing throughout the day. So when I'm 111 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: looking at like an elk track, right, let's say it's 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: in the morning. Um, A couple of things you want 113 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: to think about. Well, generally in the morning there is 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: some moisture on the ground, so you can kind of 115 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: look for the way that the shine changes the color 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: of things. So like if the water has been moved, 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: or if it's like the ground seems kind of dry, 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: but there's in the toe area where the dirt's lifted 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: up it's or sorry, the ground might seem kind of wet, 120 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: but where the toe area is might be lifted up, um, 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: and it's dryer underneath. That's you know, generally something that's 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: pretty fresh. Uh deciphering Like, Okay, there's tracks in the ground, 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: but they're they're really buried in the ground think Okay, 124 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: well maybe that was the last time it rained when 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: the ground was softer or when it was wet, and 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: now they've dried out, they could be pretty old. One 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: thing that I will do also is I'll feel the track, 128 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: so like I like to feel the edge of the tracks. 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: So if there's a track in dirt or mud or whatever, 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the edge and feel like, Let's 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: say there's a track going through some fresh mud and 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: I go, okay, how does it feel like and what 133 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: time of day is that. If it's later in the day, 134 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: then that track will have dried out a little bit. 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: So if I hit the edge of it and it 136 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: starts to crumble, then I know, okay, that's gonna be 137 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: a little bit later. And what I like to do 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: is I like to compare it to my track, like 139 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: at that moment. So I make a track and I say, 140 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: what are my footprint doing at this point? So that's 141 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: like something that shows you here's a timestamp, this is 142 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: right now, and then you can kind of tell like 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: how was with this degrade over that time from now. 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: So one thing that I've done in the past is 145 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: like had tracks. Let's say I watched it an elk 146 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: or something go through an area and then I see 147 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: those tracks and I go analyze it, and then just 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I keep going back and looking at them over time. 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Where I've got a good indicator, it's a good way 150 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: to teach yourself how to understand and read sign that's 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: on the ground. Um like understanding how that track degrades 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: or time how it breaks down. It can be a 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: really good skill. Another another thing that I think, um 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of gets overlooked is like the sheen of what 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: they might even call like a pock mark. So when 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: when you're tracking something, this is just now I'm kind 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: of going into tracking, which might not be the same 158 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: as looking at sign but um, like what I'll do 159 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: when i'm tracking something now I'm just taking a tangent, 160 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: but I like it. It's fun. Um Sometimes what I'll do, 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: like let's say we've got a wounded bowl and I'm 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm tracking it and you kind of like lose tracks. 163 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: What I do is I get down on the ground 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: and I put my head there and I look over 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the ground and you'll see like the pock mark where 166 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: it's not even even actually a track, but it has 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: a different shine because when you put pressure on dirt 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: and other things. It actually changes the way that all 169 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: that like the dirt is sitting in there, because now 170 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: it's compressed and it has this like weird shine to 171 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: it with the right light. And I've actually found bowls 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: following these these like shiny pock marks. It takes a 173 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: little while to kind of figure out what you're looking 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: for and then knowing where it'll for a track. So 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: what I'll do is, if I've got two good tracks, 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I'll get like a stick, I'll break it for that 177 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: bull's stride right, and then I will or a trekking poll. 178 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: I make it the length of the stride of the 179 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: one side, and then from the last track, I put 180 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: it in that track, and then I know if what 181 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: distance should I expect to see that pock mark where 182 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: the tracks have disappeared, And then I can keep doing 183 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: that from area to area to kind of help until 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I can find tracks again. Completely a tangent, but I 185 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: say that to say that sometimes figuring out the age 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: of sign is just kind of experimenting and just like 187 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: really spending a lot of time understanding it um and 188 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: like how it's going to degrade over time. Now with ELK, 189 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: this is the awesome thing with elk. A lot of 190 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the time you can actually smell their presence are where 191 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: they've been. So one one really good indicator of when 192 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: elk has been somewhere recently is using your nose. I 193 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: even like will go to a rub or something. Now, 194 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: a rub is a good way to a really easy 195 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: way to tell like how fresh a rub is because 196 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: you look at it, Oh, is it fresh? We can 197 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: pull off the branches. You can say, okay, is this 198 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: branch still like the other branches that are on the tree. 199 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Maybe this roub was really fresh. Is that sap really 200 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: pitchy or has it dried out? Are the um the 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: bark curls that have come off, are those super dry 202 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: or are they still wet. Take your knife or a 203 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: stick and rub it on a tree and make a 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: comparison and say, this is just like that. This is 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: fresh so within this amount of time. Now, if there's 206 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: dried branches and you know, that's probably last week. If 207 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing is real dry, you go, huh, shoot, 208 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: that could have been last season. Um. So that's a 209 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: good way to kind of also decipher sign. And then 210 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: when you get into elk, notice the sign that's around 211 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: when you know that there's elk there, and it kind 212 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: of helps you say, like, Okay, this is how fresh 213 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: something might be. I hope that kind of explains it. 214 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: That might just be like five podcasts of just like 215 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: understanding tracks and signed but tried to do it to 216 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: run down quick. This comes from Rourke. He says, Hey, 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: remy new elk hunter here from Michigan, but just moved 218 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: to Colorado and went on a week long o t C. 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Elk hunt definitely improved over the week by finding more 220 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: slash fresher sign each day when moving areas, but couldn't 221 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: seem to lay my eyes on elk. The main question 222 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: is how do you plan a route through the area 223 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you want to check out. Do you stay on top 224 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: of the ridge mainly on the trail once in a 225 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: while checking off trail for sign, or do you just 226 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: brush busts the whole day to stay away from hunters. 227 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: Elk weren't vocal in Colorado the second week seems due 228 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to pressure and heat. The last day of hunting, we 229 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: were finding fresh rubs and droppings and ended up within 230 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty yards of a bull. We were 231 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: half a mile off trail in thick stuff. Once in 232 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: a while doing cow party calling, my brother broke a 233 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: stick and his bull started going crazy bugling at us, 234 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: even cut off my bugle. But the second time I bugled, 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: he seemed to shut up because I was too aggressive. 236 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: Chuckle and rake definitely caught us off guard, laughing. That's 237 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: that's a great question. So you know, it really depends. Like, 238 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing that trails are really good to access areas, 239 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and ridges are really good ways to cruise and cover country. 240 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: So if I'm just like I just need to get 241 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: somewhere and do something, I'd probably be on a trail. 242 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: But generally when it goes to like, hey, I'm trying 243 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: to get in and try to find elk and I'm 244 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: not finding them in these particular areas, I'd say majority 245 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: of my time is spent off of a trail. Very 246 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: rarely do I spend my time hunting on a trail. Now, 247 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: ridges isn't That's a different story, Like I do travel 248 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: those ridges because um, one of the things that is 249 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: good about the ridges you can kind of cover both 250 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: sides and broadcast your sound and it's also an area 251 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: where elk will bed. But I have found like in 252 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: those areas, like especially over the countertype areas where there 253 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: might be a lot of hunters. I try to find 254 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the places that are difficult to get into, and that's 255 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: generally some thick holes. I've killed some of my best 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: bulls in those thick spots. It's it's tough sometimes to 257 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: get shot, but it's also they do come in closer, tighter. 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: That's what I like about hunting, that thick stuff. Um, 259 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: I like bush stalking. So it's just a way that 260 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: I like hunting. I think. Um, that's one thing I 261 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: was going to mention on the podcast. I hate the 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: words still hunting because it's so I talked about it before, 263 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: but I think we're just gonna from now on call 264 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: still hunting bush stalking because it just makes a lot 265 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: more sense because you're you're stalking through the bush. Um. 266 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: And so all my friends from New Zealand will be like, yeah, 267 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: that's what we call it, Like, yeah, that's that's what 268 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: we should call it here. So I'm starting a revolution 269 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: or changing it. I don't know what guy a guy 270 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: hunts and a tree stands started to call it still hunting, 271 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: where he's like, I don't know who started that that's 272 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: another chance. But um so, I think getting getting off 273 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: trail is good. Um Like, like you said, you you 274 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: found that bull a half a mile off the trail 275 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: and that thick stuff you were doing the cow calling 276 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: party and you got a bull to bugle. So it 277 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: could have If I was just guessing when that happened, 278 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: it might have been the middle of the day kind 279 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: of thing. Could have been that bedded bull scenario that 280 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I talked about a couple of weeks ago, or even 281 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: just in the evening when they start to get up 282 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: and move around again. Um So that's a good that's 283 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: a good way to find elk. But if you need 284 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: to cover country, you're like, hey, I don't know even 285 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: where to start. Maybe getting on a trail and getting 286 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: into accessing some spots and then going okay from here 287 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: down I'm back here in little ways, the crowds have 288 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of calmed down. Now I can start cross country 289 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: going over to the next canyon, up that next ridge 290 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: and moving around off that trail, like away from the trail. 291 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: It would be kind of the way that I would 292 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: hunt it personally. Next question comes from Tony says, Hey, Remmy, 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: I know you've touched based on taking kids out a 294 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: few times, but I wanted to know if you had 295 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: any good tips on taking older people out. I started 296 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: getting my dad into Western hunting a few years ago. 297 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: He hunted back in Wisconsin when he was younger, but 298 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: he's not quite used to hunting the Big West. He's 299 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: gone on a few of my deer hunts, but mostly 300 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: hung back at camp because I hike a lot. He 301 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: pulled his antelope last year and was able to get 302 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: him a pretty decent buck, but I feel like I 303 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: might have pushed him a little too hard getting on it. 304 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: I love the podcast, looking forward to every Thursday. That's 305 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: a great question, you know. Actually, as a professional elk guide, 306 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience taking older gentlemen out. 307 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: It's one of those things, man. It's like when I 308 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: first started guiding, it seemed like it was all guys 309 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: that were in their seventies. And they they show up 310 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: at elk camp, They're like, Okay, I want you know, 311 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: I've been waiting my whole life to go on an 312 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: elk hunt. And they're like, but I can't walk or 313 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: can't go very far, And just like, oh ship, what 314 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: do I do now? You know? And I over the 315 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: years kind of developed some ways to hunt effectively with 316 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: people that might be older or have trouble getting around. Um, 317 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not that they can't do it, it's just that 318 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: I kind of found, like I started hunting, when I 319 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: first started guiding people like that, it was like, all right, 320 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: we just go. And then by day one I burned 321 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: him out and I was like, well, now the rest 322 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: of the week is shot. You can choose your tactic 323 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: based on the ability of the person that's with you, 324 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: And I say that when you're taking kids out, I 325 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: say that when you're taking maybe somebody that's older out, 326 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean um, or maybe somebody that's not in great 327 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: shape or whatever. You just gotta hunt to the tactic, 328 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: like create a tactic that works and can be successful 329 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: for the people that you're with. So let's say it's 330 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: somebody that can't and it's like maybe older and can't 331 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: really hike real far, but you know, they can get going, 332 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: they can do it. But it's just like it's not 333 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it's not a lot. And then I 334 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: change my tactic, like maybe I'm gonna glass a little 335 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: bit more. Maybe I'm gonna pick glassing spots that are 336 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: real close to a road where I can access, I 337 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: can pull up, i can hike to this little knob 338 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: that's like a hundred yards away, and I can glass, 339 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna we're gonna spend our energy going after 340 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: something like once we've identified something that we can go after. 341 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Whereas if I've got a guy that's in really good shape, 342 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bust country. I'm gonna 343 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: get back in there, and I'm gonna be in places 344 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: you can't see from anywhere else. That's just the way 345 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. Now, it's a guy that maybe, 346 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta take it a little bit slower, 347 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: So you gotta kind of think, well, what tactics can 348 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: we do Like you said, you know, I mean sitting 349 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: and stand hunting, it can still be effective if it's elk. 350 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's the opportunity to potentially hunt wallows. 351 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: There's the opportunity to kind of go to travel areas 352 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: or even just like walk flat logging roads that are 353 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: really timbered and kind of still hunt those out. When 354 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: it comes to elk, when it comes to antelope, you know, 355 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: you can kind of adjust your tactics being like, Okay, 356 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: let's let's get into a spot, let's set up a blind, 357 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: let's sit in this water hole and wait or or whatever. 358 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: So you've got to just adjust those tactics based on 359 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: the people that are with you. And I think that 360 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: in the long run, like they'll just have a more 361 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: they'll just have a better experience about the whole thing, 362 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: and they'll still find success. My buddy Mike, I mean, 363 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like, you know, drive around and hunt, 364 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: but I am saying, like my buddy Mike always says 365 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: this thing. He's like, we have this guy that had 366 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: need like a permit to hunt from a vehicle, right, 367 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: so he just was disabled enough that he couldn't walk 368 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: around and that happens, and there's a lot of people 369 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you should still be enjoying the outdoors, no 370 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: matter your your level of activity. And he was kind 371 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: of feeling bad. He's like, man, I just wish I 372 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: could get out there and go hunt elk and climb 373 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: the mountains and do all this. And my buddy Mike 374 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: was guiding for me and he looks at me goes, look, man, 375 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: He's like, you can't shoot him from the truck if 376 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: you're out there walking around, and it's kind of like 377 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: the joke of the week. Well, at the end of 378 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: the week, this guy shot the biggest bull in camp 379 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: and a giant meal that you're one of the biggest 380 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: meal that we've ever killed. And it happened to be 381 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: a mule there that I was watching like miles in 382 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: the back country and ended up like hip, Like we 383 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: were still even hunting this buck, you know, we parked 384 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: and hiked in whatever, and this buck ended up like 385 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: for the rut moving down lower country and Mike found 386 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: him off of a road. So like, there is ways 387 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: to hunt for the people the way that you cannot, 388 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: Like you can't you aren't gonna kill a bull in 389 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: an easy spot if you're always hiking to the hard spot. 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: So that's something to kind of keep in mind when 391 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: you've got somebody that maybe doesn't have the mobility or 392 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the energy to just keep hiking all day every day. 393 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Just something to think about. And it's fun to say, like, 394 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: can't kill him from the truck if you're out there 395 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: walking around, which is actually true because I think there's 396 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: been many times I've complained, like, man, I've never had 397 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: an easy elk I've never had milk that's like within 398 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: even a mile of a road. And then yeah, when 399 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: I think about it, I was like, well, I've never 400 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: even hunted within a mile of the road, and like 401 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: it's always they're always just elk back and I'm always 402 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: back in those holes, those places, and that's where I 403 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: kill elk because that's where I'm hunting. So something you 404 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: think about food for thought. This is just another testimonial 405 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: comes from Kevin. He says, Hey, Remmy, my brother had 406 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: a Nevada bull tag and the bulls are pretty quiet 407 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: accept at night. We heard your podcast about silent bulls. 408 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: So he changed up our tactic and cow called a 409 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: nice six by six into twenty two yards. He made 410 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: a good shot. I wanted to say thank you for 411 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: all the information to give us. It's an awesome bowl man, Congrats, 412 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: Like that's what I like to hear. See some of 413 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: these tactics working for people, and that's that's for me, 414 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: is what it's all about, all right. This question comes 415 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: from Kevin. He says, a Remy super big fan. Love 416 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: all the meat eater and solo hunter stuff and all 417 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: around Remy content that you put out, super informative and 418 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: entertaining one like that. I was wondering if you might 419 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: have the time to answer question. I know you've answered 420 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: it before, but I can't remember which podcast it was, 421 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to figure out what arrows you use. 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: I've been playing around with some builds and I'm tossing 423 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: up between six millimeter and five millimeter and the cost difference. 424 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Uh ps, I'm from Canada, so the micro's and fmj's 425 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: around a little price here, unfortunately, But I want what's 426 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: best in the end to be most effective in the field. 427 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: Thanks again, Kevin. That's a good question. I mean, I 428 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: get a lot of questions about arrows. I have talked 429 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: about them on you know, multiple podcast but I think 430 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: sometimes like the gear stuff is always good for these 431 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Q and a's, it's a little bit just easier to 432 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of go through gear things when it's a specific question. 433 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I personally shoot, so I've shot a little bit of 434 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: everything over the years. I now shoot day six arrows. 435 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: Um you can pretty much only get them online and 436 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: then through solo Hunter has their own version of them 437 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: as well. But uh I shoot right now, I'm shooting 438 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: the h D two seventy five and I shoot a 439 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: four fledged um partially because I I just started. I 440 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: just switched to a four fledge this year, and I've 441 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: really liked it. I think I feel like it stabilizes 442 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: my broadhead a little bit better, especially because I shoot 443 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: all fixed blades. Um Now, the two seventy five that 444 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm shooting, you know, that's the spine is spine for 445 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: my arrow, and it's heavy. It's the arrow I'm shooting 446 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: right now is eleven point eight grains per inch. I 447 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: do have a pretty long draw, so, um, I've got 448 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: like a third draw right now. I think the bow 449 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: machine is twenty nine and a half. Just depends on 450 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: the bow. But um, so I've got a pretty long 451 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: arrow I shoot. So that arrow is what I would 452 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: consider like a micro diameter shaft. I really like the 453 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: micro diameter shaft because it's like less surface area, so 454 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: there's better returned, there's less resistance and then less wind deviation. 455 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: So if you're shooting, and you know, you think about 456 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: a thicker diameter arrow, the winds affecting it in a 457 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: certain way. Less surface area means less wind drag, which 458 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: just makes it move less in the wind. Everywhere I hunt, 459 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: where I live, where I shoot, it's windy. So, um, 460 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: that's something to think about. I do like that micro diameter. 461 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: Now here's the downside to a lot of arrows that 462 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: are those micro diameters is you know, your standard insert 463 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: your broadhead has to fit in it. So some arrows 464 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: have like a that deep six, which is just like 465 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: a different threading pattern. I don't like that. I just 466 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: it really limits the amount of broadheads and options you 467 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: can do. And to me, it's just I just I 468 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: had that once and I just got away from it. 469 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I don't know if many people 470 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: still make that, but um, I didn't like it. But 471 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, there wasn't like a really good, 472 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: like outsert insert kind of thing. So that's why I 473 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: started shooting the day six ones because they have like 474 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: a really good so it's like an insert with an 475 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: outsert caller. Um, so it's kind of like a I 476 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: guess it's a it's not really an outsert. It's not 477 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: it's like over the arrow shaft. But then it is 478 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: an outsert because it's got it goes. You know, you 479 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: can put a standard size, you know, threading broadhead on 480 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: a micro diameter aero and I found that the caller 481 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: and everything is super strong. So I just have the 482 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: aluminum ones. I have used the titanium ones as well. 483 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: It's just you know, they aren't cheap. It's kind of like, yeah, 484 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: they're super I mean they're super um accurate, they're super straight. 485 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: I think they're to the thousand um straightness yeah and 486 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Yeah, exactly. Um, So that that's what I like. 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: But I do, I would say, now I'm kind of moral. 488 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: It's weird because I used to shoot with bigger arrows 489 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: and but yeah, so now I do like, I do 490 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: like the idea of a micro diameter arrow. I think 491 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: that there's the benefits to it. Um. I've only seen 492 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: increase in accuracy and I've had a lot of pastors 493 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: and it's a real heavy arrow. Two So that's nice. 494 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: You know, you may you can you can choose different 495 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: weights based on your whole setup. You've got a short draw. 496 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd shoot an eleven grain pringe arrow um, 497 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: but maybe you know, you get that gives you a 498 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: little bit more kinetic energy. You're just gonna have a 499 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: little bit more drop. So there's a lot of there's 500 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different thoughts out there when it comes 501 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: to arrows. But that's what I like, um, and I've 502 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: been shooting. I just switched this year to two five 503 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: grain broadhead just to kind of it gives it a 504 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: little bit um for my setup. It's a little bit 505 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: better and it adds a little bit of weight. So 506 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: right now this overall arrow I was shooting about six 507 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: hundred ten grains overall. Now it's about by I think 508 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: it was at five eighty something like that. So it's 509 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: a pretty solid set up. And man does it just 510 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: like it just blows through elk and other things. So 511 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: I've got a moose hunt coming up. It's just like 512 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: a perfect combo for that perfect combo for elk, and 513 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't really it bucks the winding pretty well. So 514 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: that's what I do. That's something to think about Heremy 515 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm new to archery hunting, and I have a question 516 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: about calling for elk. I'm hunting in Pacific Northwest Oregon, 517 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: where it can go wet to dry to really wet 518 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: all the same day. My question is, what do you 519 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: do if you really mess up a call? I asked 520 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: because I let out a locator bagle the other day 521 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and I think there was moisture in my too, because 522 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: it sounded awful and slobby. Is it best to just 523 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: stop and be quiet, try it again or just move 524 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: on when you feel like you just announced your there. 525 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Thanks in advance, and thanks for the podcast. I look 526 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: forward to listening every Thursday. That's a good question, because 527 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: it happens. Man, I've got you know, I might have 528 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: a read that it's like a little bit war out 529 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: and you just make a bad call. It just depends 530 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: sometimes what I do. Like I'll throw out a couple 531 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: of little cow calls, kind of recover and then let 532 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: out another bugle. You know, to be honest, I don't 533 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: necessarily know that elk care as much as we might 534 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: think they do. I mean, they do to a certain extent, 535 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: but they also you know, it's like, you made one 536 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: bad call. I don't think it elks and be like, Okay, 537 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna run away now. They just hear it off 538 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: in the distance and it sounds like whatever it sounds like, 539 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: and then they hear another one. It's like, oh, there's 540 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: Elk there. Cool. I will say, like, the better your 541 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: calls sound, the easier it is to call bulls. And 542 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I found that over the years like, as I got 543 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: better at calling, and maybe it's just maybe knowing how 544 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: to call a little bit better, but as I got 545 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: better at actual calling and making those really good elk 546 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: sounds and changing the pitch in the tone and all that, 547 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to call elkin. I'm not gonna 548 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: lie about that. But also I have seen elk and 549 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: have in the past called in elk, which just terrible calls. 550 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: So it um I think that I would just kind 551 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: of recover by just letting another one rip, maybe a 552 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: couple of seconds later. Though. All right, this one comes 553 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: from I don't I don't know no name, but it says, hey, 554 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: remy love. The content had a question for you. In Saskatchewan, 555 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: we don't have a huge abundance of elk, but numbers 556 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: are good. I finally got into chasing elk about three 557 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: years ago now and have yet to fill a tag, 558 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: which isn't a problem. But I'm curious. What would your 559 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: top three tips for elk hunting be to someone fairly 560 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: new to elk coming from always focusing on mule deer hunting, 561 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: It's hard to break some habits. Cheers, Here's the thing 562 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: I would think about the top three tips for elk hunting. 563 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: I would say if you're new to lk hunting, the 564 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: first thing I would say is you really have to 565 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: understand the elk behavior where you're hunting. So you kind 566 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: of got to figure out what are these elk doing 567 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and why are they doing it? You know, everywhere's a 568 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: little bit different. In the mountains of Montana or Wyoming, 569 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's like whatever that region is. Maybe it's 570 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: like there, I've hunted places where it's more desert type country, 571 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: and it's like those that elk are out in the 572 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: stage and they're in different places than they are when 573 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: you're up in like the high country of Colorado early 574 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: season or even then same area late Like what are 575 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: those elk doing? Understanding elk is the first step to 576 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: being a really successful elk counter. So if you're in Saskatchewan, 577 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe you're in like agg country, it's like, 578 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: just like anything you're hunting, what are these animals doing 579 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: and why are they doing it? When you unlock that secret, 580 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: you're going to be really successful. And the second thing 581 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: would be just as a as a blanket statement for 582 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: tips for hunting elk. I mean I think that it's 583 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, hunt to your strength as well. I think 584 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that come out elk hunting 585 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: and they're like, they got lkhunt, Like I lk hunt, 586 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: which is is really good, you know, it's the way 587 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: you lk hunt. But also it's like, well, what are 588 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: you used to hunting and then kind of adapt those 589 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: tactics to whatever new species you're gonna hunt. So there 590 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of things that are very specific to 591 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: hunting elk. But I think that there's things that people 592 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of forget about. It's like if you're really I 593 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: know a guy that he's a really good tree stand hunter, 594 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: and he comes out and kills an elk every year 595 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: from a tree stand, and it's like that, I've never 596 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: killed an elk from a tree stand, you know. But 597 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: that's also not the way that I hunt. So there 598 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: are those things where you can take cross everythings of 599 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: things that you already know. If you're like I, I'm 600 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: really good at hunting mule deer, you know, it's all 601 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: spot and stock. A lot of my friends is probably 602 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: some of the bigger bulls every year taken by spot 603 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: in stock. So adapting some of those tactics that you 604 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: already know and are already good at two elk. So 605 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: you've gotta understand elk in their habits and then you 606 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: can use your own tactics to kind of like do 607 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: the attack plan. So figure out what elk are doing, 608 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: understand why they're doing it, and where they're at, and 609 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: then use the tactics that work best for you, UM 610 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: to go in and chase it. That's always like a 611 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: good thing that I kind of think about when I'm 612 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: hunting anything new. And then the third tip would be 613 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't know the third tip. I guess, like when 614 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I talk about anything, it's like the three steps there 615 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: would be like find the animal, shoot the animal, bring 616 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: pack the animal back to the truck. So the third tip, 617 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: let's say it's before even getting packing it back to 618 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: the truck. You know, practice you're shooting being proficient. You 619 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: might only get one opportunity. You know, you gotta make 620 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: that one opportunity count, So practice those infield shots and 621 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: for when it comes to elk. I think that the 622 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: infield shot that I find the most is like being 623 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: able to thread the needle, understanding the arc of the 624 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: arrow and being able to shoot through stuff, um and 625 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: knowing whether you're gonna hit that branch in front of 626 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: you or not knowing how to Like, um, you know, 627 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: so many people will be standing up in an area 628 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: where there's like a bunch of branches and when you 629 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: could be down low and shooting below those branches, you know, 630 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: so kind of just understanding the terrain and how to 631 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: how to make a good shot, and then just being 632 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: proficient with whatever you're hunting with. Those would be my 633 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: three tips today off the top of my head. So 634 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: when it comes from Raymond, he says, Hey there, my 635 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: name is ray I'm a student in Northern Michigan University. 636 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: I started listening to your podcast this summer while at 637 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: work and love it. I have a question, not sure 638 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: if you have answered it before, but what is the 639 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: proper care for both such as string wax and what 640 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: do you do if it gets wet? Is there a 641 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: difference in shooting when it's cold or wet or both. 642 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm just getting into archery and bow hunting, just got 643 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: a bare white tail legend and have been practicing indoors 644 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: because my backyard isn't big enough to shoot. So I'm 645 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: wondering if when it gets cold, like in late October, Michigan. 646 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: Does that affect how my bow will shoot? Thanks for 647 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: doing what you do. Keep up the great work. So 648 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good question. Yeah, the weather definitely 649 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: affects all kinds of shooting, whether it's a bow or 650 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: it's rifle or whatever. But I would say a bow 651 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: is more affected. Um Now, it just depends on the 652 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: distances that you're shooting. You know, maybe the effect is negligible. 653 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Um So in some ways you might not have to 654 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: consider it so much, but in other ways, yeah, you 655 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: definitely want to think about it. I would say, here's 656 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: the things that I've I've come to realize. When it's cold, 657 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I generally find that the bow shoots higher. Um It, Well, 658 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: everything shrinks when it's cold. You know, heat expands, cold 659 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: contracts and contracts. The strings are tighter. Everything is a 660 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: little bit tighter. So it shoots a little bit higher 661 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: because it's generally shooting a little bit faster. When it's wet, 662 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: the string slows down it and if it's driving rain, 663 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: that can even actually uh increase the impact down as well. 664 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Um So then if it's wet and cold, then maybe 665 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: it just equalizes out. I don't really know about that. Um. 666 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: But another thing you want to think about isn't necessarily 667 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: the effect of the flight of the air or anything, 668 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: but also the effective the temperature on you. One thing 669 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: that you want to think about it is like what's 670 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: your effective range while you're shooting, But that's gonna change 671 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: when you get cold, when you're shaking, when you're whatever. 672 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I know, a few years back, I was hunting white 673 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: tails with a recurve and it was like, I don't 674 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: even know, it was cold man, and I did not 675 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: have sitting in cold weather clothes. I think I had 676 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: just like a was it like a probably like can 677 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: you jacket and like the lightweight guy jacket and pants 678 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: and stick of pants or something. I don't know, and um, 679 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: I had a miss a mixed match of everything. I 680 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: think I had a pair of thermals and I had 681 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: some like bootwarmers in my uninsulated boots. I had like 682 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: a neck gator and a beanie. And it was twenty 683 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: below zero, you know, and I was just freezing. I 684 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: was like so cold, and I had sat there all day. 685 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the first time I actually sat 686 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: all day before getting impatient trying to stock something. And 687 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: this buck came in and I was like sweet, And 688 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: actually I used one like Montana decoy kind of thing, 689 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: and then I think I was like I also brought 690 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: my three dr tree target and I was getting bored 691 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. So I was shooting 692 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: this target like from the tree stand like pretty regularly 693 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: when I knew nothing was coming around because I had 694 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: a pretty good sight, and I crawled down, pull my 695 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: arrows to go back up and just trying to warm 696 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: my feet back up. And when it was cold, you know, 697 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: this buck came in and I was like, he was 698 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: probably seventeen yards. I don't know, maybe I can't remember 699 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: how far it was something like that, and I'm like sweet, 700 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: but I was so it was the end of the 701 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: day and I was just freezing, man, I was just 702 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: shaking shivering, and I thought, oh, this is an easy shot. 703 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: And when I pulled that bow back like, I shot 704 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: and I made it. I mean, I killed the deer. 705 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: It was just like a lucky I don't even know 706 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: how it killed the deer. Um. I pretty much shot 707 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: it like in the back hind quarter back leg and 708 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I think it went through enough hit the fomoral artery 709 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: or something hit something must have been the form because 710 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: it ran like a hundred and fifty yards and fell 711 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: over dead and I was like whoops, But okay, um, 712 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, like a lucky break. But I think, like 713 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, when when I was warm and eever, that 714 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: was not a hard shot for me. It was just 715 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,959 Speaker 1: a fact that like I was so cold, my hands 716 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: couldn't feel the string, my body was shaking. I think 717 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: that like that impulse of like being cold and just 718 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: like let that arrow rip, you know, like you can't 719 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: hold back because you just lost that strength and whatever. Um, 720 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: it's something you think about, like it's it's definitely a factor. 721 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: So I like to practice in the cold in the 722 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: elements and say like, well, how how does that even 723 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: affect my shooting? So if you can, you know, get 724 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: out somewhere where you can practice and shoot in those 725 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: cold temperature because it's gonna affect you. It's probably gonna 726 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: affect you more than it's gonna affect the arrow, to 727 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: be realistic, Like it's gonna affect the shooter as much 728 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: as it does the flight and trajectory the arrow. Um, 729 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: but it'll probably affect your performance more than anything. All Right. 730 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: The question comes from John he says, Hey, I really 731 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: enjoy your podcast. I've started at the beginning and worked 732 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: my way through almost all the way, uh to the 733 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: most recent ones. I appreciate the time and effort you 734 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: put into that so much great info. I'd like to 735 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: get your opinion on a quiet and I have dreams 736 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: of sheep hunting in the future, specifically a rocky mountain 737 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: big horn. I'm questioning what would be the best strategy 738 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: to get a tag one day. I'm still in college 739 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: and I live in Tennessee, so I'm not a resident 740 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: of a sheep state. I have heard a lot of 741 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: people say that it's impossible odds in many states for 742 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: those who don't already have lots of points. So I've 743 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: also heard many people say that you'd be better off 744 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: putting money into an investment account rather than wasting it 745 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: on applications and use that saved money to buy a 746 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: tag later in life. What's the best strategy as a 747 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: nonresident for year old to one day have a good 748 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: chance of getting a tag in the future, preferably before 749 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm seventy. Thanks. Well, that's that's a really good question, 750 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of answers. Um. I mean the 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: first thing that kind of comes to mind is, you know, yeah, 752 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: playing the draw game is just it's it is a 753 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: random thing of luck. And when you're talking about places 754 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: with a lot of points, um, you're probably on the 755 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: losing curve of that. You know. It's like, I mean, me, 756 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on in many places twenty five points and 757 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: probably will never draw some of those tags. But you 758 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: know there's people who could apply their first year and 759 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: maybe draw that tag. If you're talking about draws and applications, 760 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: I would look towards the states that don't require points. Um, 761 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: there's a few states out there that have points. Now, 762 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: if you're looking to hunt Rocky Mountain Big Horn, I 763 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: would also kind of say, like, okay, Rocky Mountain big 764 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Horn or California big Horn. California big Horn is like 765 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: a subspecies of Rockies, but they're a little bit smaller 766 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: in the horns. Um, but they're like organ has no 767 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: points for that. So I'd kind of like look for 768 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: places that have no points where it's like, hey, it 769 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you've been applying your entire life, you're 770 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: going to be on equal footing is everyone else. Another 771 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: thing to think about it is like if you want 772 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: to go the draw route. UM, you know, there's there's 773 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: things other than state draws. There's like raffles. I my 774 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: dad just accomplished his Grand Slam, which is killing all 775 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: four species of North American wild sheep, and he's not 776 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: paid more than an application fee for it. He's drawn 777 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: every tag. So he drew too as a resident in 778 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: the state of Nevada, California big horn and then a 779 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: rock and then a desert big horn. He won the 780 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: um Doll sheep hunt at the Wild Sheep Foundation they 781 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: had like a one more for they used to have 782 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: a half slam drawing so everybody that had two sheep 783 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: could get in for that, and then he uh won 784 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: his fan in sheep hunt at the Grand Slam Cup 785 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: Club over as gs c O. They do like a raffling. 786 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of ways to get sheep tags 787 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: that are not just state raffles, and some of those 788 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: other ways are actually probably honestly statistically better odds UM. Now, 789 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: when it comes to specifically big horns, you're in luck 790 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: because there are other options as well. I mean, if 791 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: if I was you and I was like, man, I 792 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: want to go hunt big horns, I would go to 793 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: an unlimited unit in Montana and just plan on hunting 794 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: it for four or five years. Um, you're gonna learn 795 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: it and you'll get a sheep or you know, you 796 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: you'll be sheep hunting. Um. It's difficult. You know, it's 797 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: not for everyone, but you know, if you've got the 798 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: drive to do it, that's that's a good way to 799 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: do it. That's one of the only sheep tags you 800 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: can do that with. So, um, that's not a bad option. 801 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: And then you know the other option of saving money 802 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: and buying a tag. You know, especially when it comes 803 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: to like if you're like, hey, I want to hunt 804 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: a doll sheep or something like that, that that would 805 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: be the option that I would go with, um, because 806 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of more you're actually gonna get a go 807 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a good hunt. And to be honest, 808 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: like the money that you put away every year, it 809 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot is a chunk, but over 810 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: the years it like it kind of goes fast. That's 811 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: what I mean. I saved up for um a long 812 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: time and then night end up drawing a lot of 813 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: the tags that all the sheep tags that I've hunted, 814 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: So I go back and forth and you're like, oh, man, um, 815 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: but I know I've got a lot of friends that 816 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: have done that way, and man, it seems like, you 817 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: know there's people that will we never draw tags, and 818 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: and then you just like you're betting on yourself. You're 819 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: just you're you're putting away and you're gonna say, Okay, 820 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: this many years, I can save up this much. And 821 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: that's a really good strategy. When it comes to Rocky 822 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Mountain Big Horns, though, it's tough because even when you 823 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: buy that that hunt, it's a pretty tough hunt. So 824 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: I would say for Rocky Mountain Big Horn, that's where 825 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of a little bit different. If you're like, oh, 826 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: I want to go on a doll sheep hunt, I'd say, yeah, 827 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: I just just put away or or do the draw thing. 828 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: But I would say for this, you know, you've you've 829 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of options. Um. But you know, for 830 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: for when it comes to sheep hunting now these days, man, 831 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: putting away and just being able to in the future 832 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: potentially you know, book a hunt somewhere is is a 833 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: pretty good Uh, it's like way more guaranteed. Um. So 834 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, I don't really know the 835 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: right answer. I play the draw game and I've been 836 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: fortunate in it, but I know that it you know, 837 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: I've started a long time ago as well. The question says, Hey, remmy, 838 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: my name is Brady. Just to actually started listening to 839 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: your podcast maybe about two or three weeks ago, and 840 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: I've listened to nearly every episode now. I'd like to 841 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the awesome content. Wow, it's 842 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: been informative. I'm heading out this weekend to do my 843 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: first el khint, hoping the advice you have been giving 844 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: will pay off. I live in BC, Canada, so I'm 845 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: sure it will. Anyways, I did have one question, kind 846 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: of a funny one, I guess, just kind of touching 847 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: on the scent blocker stuff. I totally get what you're 848 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: saying about clothing and how it won't really work when 849 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: you're hiking around so to go Further, is there deodorant 850 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: that you use for cover at least a bit of 851 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: the body odor, especially going on long hikes in the backwoods. 852 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: Is there a scent free deodorant that you use or 853 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: do you just rock the smell? Thanks again for all 854 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: the info and given out really appreciated. Cheers, Rady, that's 855 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: a good question. Me. I'm I'm gonna make a lot 856 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: of people mad. But this is the truth too. I 857 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: rarely get winded, um, and I don't use anything. Maybe 858 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: maybe I've just like maybe I've just adapted to be 859 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: like an animal out there. I mean I was, I've 860 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: walked like I've just had those winds swirl moments where 861 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: I should get busted, And I don't know. When I'm 862 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: with someone else, I always get busted. So I like 863 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: to tell people like I never get winded, but the 864 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: people i'm with two, So I don't really know what 865 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: what that is or why that is. Um. Maybe it's 866 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 1: just like I think there's a few things that factor 867 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: into animals winding you, and people are gonna just be like, 868 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: now you're just making stuff up, and maybe I am, 869 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: because like I think there's like this this I don't 870 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: know if we just like release some hormone when you 871 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: get real excited and you're like I can't mess this up. 872 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you're just you're kind of like releasing 873 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: something that's that predator like excitement level, and I feel 874 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: like the animals can sense that. I don't know, I mean, 875 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: that's just me. Um. But I will say this, here's 876 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: what here's my scent control things like I wash my 877 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: clothes and regular tide uh, laundry detergent. If I feel 878 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: like I smell bad to myself, I just put on 879 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: whatever right guard, deodorant, whatever. And honestly, like I do 880 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: notice at the beginning of a hunt, like you generally 881 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: get winded less when you're clean, and I don't use 882 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: anything special. I just use regular soap and whatever. I 883 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: mean I've put out like just to see I had 884 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: a trail camera and I just put like a little 885 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: thing of laundry detergent like on a stump and ELK, 886 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: we're still like wallowing right there. They gave two craps 887 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: about it, so they it's not the deodorant or the 888 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: detergent that they're smelling that they freaks them out. It's 889 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: like that animal human sense. It's like this is a 890 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: human predator and he's trying to kill me. So when 891 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: you start sweating, I think you're just like releasing that 892 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: even more um. And it's hard to block. The key 893 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: is in every scenario, just use you get the wind right, 894 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be those times where that wind swirling. 895 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: And I don't think that there's any amount of like 896 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: crazy deodorant that you can use that's gonna help you. 897 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: What I do do sometimes, like if I'm like, oh man, 898 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: it's a hot day, gonna go to the top of 899 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: the mountain where it's swirly, I'll just grab some like 900 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: pine boughs and I just rubbed that all over my clothes. 901 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: That it and I smell like pine and um or 902 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: something natural like that. And you know, I don't know. 903 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like if I can smell my pits, 904 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I stink um. I generally 905 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: just grab some pine stuff and rub it, or I'll 906 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: take some deodorant and and I just don't think about 907 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: it too much. And to be honest, like I probably 908 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: get winded a lot less than a lot of people. 909 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's just knowing how to play 910 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: the wind, you know. No, I'd rather just spend my 911 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: time understanding how the wind is going to change, how 912 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: the thermals react, and in getting in there, and then 913 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: if you can get a little bit of advantage, maybe 914 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: you just like you just feel like it makes you 915 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: feel more confident. Use whatever you feel good using Thanks 916 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: everybody that sent in a question that concludes this week's 917 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: Male Satchell. I'm Remy Warren. Thank you for cutting the 918 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: distance with me and asking me questions and listening and 919 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: leaving awesome comments, and telling your friends about the podcast 920 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: and your family members, and then sharing that success back 921 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: with me. Full circle. M