WEBVTT - Josh Primo and Kyrie Irving Story Developments

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, the Josh Primo

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<v Speaker 2>saga in San Antonio gets a little more meaty and

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<v Speaker 2>I am now this episode turning into private Dick Crick

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Timberwolves have a huge problem, and finally people are

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<v Speaker 1>starting to realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now there is more developing situations on the Kyrie

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<v Speaker 2>anti semitism situation. That is a sentence I never thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would say until this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus some news from around the league.

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<v Speaker 2>In a very short interview with Travis Thomas, our guy

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<v Speaker 2>who is now at Nessen, about the potential email you

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<v Speaker 2>donk Iron Brooklyn, Yeah, so much, Pop and Nick drop

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<v Speaker 2>that fucking beat.

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<v Speaker 1>So today it comes out, I got people in my inbox,

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<v Speaker 1>Het tres use you this? You see that ESPN story?

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<v Speaker 2>This? Why do they think I want? Why do they

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<v Speaker 2>think I want? These unsolicited links?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't we know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to add, they have to ask for my

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<v Speaker 2>consent to send me things about even just the news

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<v Speaker 2>about a Dick pic I want to consent to. So

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<v Speaker 2>we got a little more details on the Josh Primo cacophony.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it cacophony.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, there's been so much synonyms searching today. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>It's something, it is something. If you haven't heard this news,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how to talk about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much the biggest news in the NBA right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, So you know, I'm gonna try. Here are the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you know, Josh Primo, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>on the last pod, has been released from the San

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Spurs for potentially allegedly exposing himself to who.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know who. Here are the facts. Doctor Hilary Coffin.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the Spurs sports psychologist right she was treating Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Primo in a medical capacity in December twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>when she alleged that he exposed himself. According to her lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 2>she reported it to the Spurs management in January twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Now listen, I'm not a calendar expert, and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know the exact timing of the situation or

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<v Speaker 2>the incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The therapy session.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have occurred on December thirtieth, she could have reported

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<v Speaker 2>it to the Spurs January second, so it could be

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<v Speaker 2>a few days between December and January. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's what the statement really implies. Right anyway, that,

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<v Speaker 2>according to doctor Coffin, here's where it gets interesting, Primo

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<v Speaker 2>exposed himself to her during therapy sessions no less than.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine times over the following months.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just say that one more time, just to

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<v Speaker 2>get it together and just get it straight. She's alleging

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<v Speaker 2>that Primo exposed himself to her during therapy sessions no

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<v Speaker 2>less than nine time, not ten, not just a clean number,

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<v Speaker 2>no less than nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So she has documented nine.

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<v Speaker 2>And there may be more during a period of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Pause, there's a lot. There's a lot. There isn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, let me just unequivocally make this known,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm making light of this, so I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be known as a female on the internet that

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<v Speaker 2>lives my life on the internet gets paid from stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I am one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent opposed to unexpected, unprovoked dick in any capacity, in

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<v Speaker 2>any capacity, photos in real life, IRL, you know, IRL.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick, photo, dick, all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I didn't ask for said in yeah it even

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<v Speaker 2>if we're being intimate, if maybe I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see it tonight, you know, like so pretty much all

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<v Speaker 2>women have to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>And to that end, I will say that is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really bad. There's a reason why it's jail for

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<v Speaker 2>exposing yourself. And I believe that doctor Coffin did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to see Josh Primo's dick. I believe that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's horrible. And I do believe that she

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<v Speaker 2>probably went to the Spurs management and said, hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think maybe Josh could uh come to the sessions

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<v Speaker 2>with sweatpants on.

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<v Speaker 1>Versus shorts? Uh? And it leads me to the following point.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there's only.

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<v Speaker 2>A few ways that exposing yourself happens, right. Pants on

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<v Speaker 2>are not one of them, unless you're unzipping and letting

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<v Speaker 2>things fly. But how many dick exposures does it take

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<v Speaker 2>for you to say something?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that? Think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, there's only really one right answer, and it's two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's two.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time, it could be an accident, unless someone

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what do you think about this? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>But if if it's not that, because that's one that

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to that is one, Hey, no nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's like on the slide, if it's dick,

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<v Speaker 1>on the sly it's two.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you see someone's penis through their underneath their

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<v Speaker 2>shorts or popping out.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be an accident, could be like turtle turtle, could.

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<v Speaker 2>Be an accident. Right, second time, it's a pattern. Right

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<v Speaker 2>second time, we got problems. You need to say, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>this stick is uninvited to the party.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. The stick's not a part

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<v Speaker 1>of our sessions. You know what I mean. Needed to

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<v Speaker 1>put him away nine times?

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<v Speaker 2>At least you saw Josh Primo's dick at least nine times.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're a therapist, you're a medical professional. It all

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<v Speaker 1>just is getting a little weird to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nobody should have that again, unequivocally, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>are anti that nobody should have to be reminded that

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<v Speaker 2>they need to listen, put your dick away.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, boys are telling us by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>could walk right three years old, four.

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<v Speaker 1>Years old, they take off their pants, they take off.

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<v Speaker 2>Their diaper, they're running around, they're waving it around, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the parents scrab them aside. They say no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do that anymore. No dick out on the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>But Primo obviously didn't get the message. Now, she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell them, didn't say anything to him. That's what his

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers are alleging. She has not said that she ever

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<v Speaker 2>told him, but Primo is also accused of exposing himself

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<v Speaker 2>in Las Vegas at Summer League as well also on

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<v Speaker 2>the road this year in Minnesota at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Primo's team says, it's all an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where again we're starting to get into strange territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it was strictly this is the quote, folks, quote

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<v Speaker 2>not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Strictly a wardrobe malfunction resulting from this is what I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it could be too. This is where my mind went,

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<v Speaker 2>resulting from laying down on a couch in basketball shorts,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously with no underwear.

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<v Speaker 1>That is their quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Wardrobe malfunction taken strictly out of the Janet Jackson Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl handbook. I don't know that holds water at a

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<v Speaker 2>court of all, you know what I mean. The bottom line, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is this, He is now stating he's in therapy for her.

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<v Speaker 2>He is now stating Josh Primo is now stating I

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<v Speaker 2>almost didn't talk about this, but so ludicrous. Josh Primo said,

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<v Speaker 2>I am now seeking treatment for this trauma. Imagine his

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<v Speaker 2>new therapist when she finds out what he's seeking trauma

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<v Speaker 2>for and why he was removed from the team. I

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<v Speaker 2>have questions, were there any therapy sessions where he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>exposes dick or were they all of them? Right? What

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of dick out versus dick in are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it one? Was it one out of every ten?

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, yeah, once at every We've had ninety sessions,

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<v Speaker 2>have only seen his dick nine times?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this a case of this is important? This is

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<v Speaker 1>very important to ask. Is this a case of sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>dog or barking dog? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Sleeping or barking? Was the maleman at the door? Or

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<v Speaker 2>was dog back in the closet sleeping in its house?

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<v Speaker 2>We can't have angry worm situations here, because that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a case of Josh Primo just not liking

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<v Speaker 2>to wear draws.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Is this a case? Honestly? Is this a case.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the San Antonio Spurs didn't provide him with the

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<v Speaker 2>proper equipment, not shorts, the right size, shirts, the right size.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe he's a free baller at heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we're not hearing anything about balls either, nothing around balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking Lonzo and LaMelo and Leangelo either. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what is this situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Again? Not here to diminish.

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<v Speaker 2>There are serious accusations of misconduct, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>admit when you dig into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Details, it's ludicrous, all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a prick here, but it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like, based on some of the story, someone's getting

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<v Speaker 2>the shaft, you know what I mean. Of course, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be updating this when we learn more, but I'll end

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<v Speaker 2>with this. If you're a paid psychologist for an NBA

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<v Speaker 2>team and you can't tell a nineteen year old to

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<v Speaker 2>put his dick away, you're kind of a weenie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's all I'll say.

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<v Speaker 2>We dropped a special breaking news episode yesterday, and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're just waiting, right or waiting for Ema Udoka to

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<v Speaker 2>be hired us a new coach of the Brooklyn Nets,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll do another emergency podcast that for that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And still, when you fired a Hall of fame two

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<v Speaker 2>time MVP point.

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<v Speaker 1>Guard head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>To hire, I don't know a guy who's been suspended

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<v Speaker 2>for an entire year for the reigning Eastern Conference champions

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<v Speaker 2>by having an inappropriate consensual relationship with a team employee.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it that everyone can only talk about Kyrie Irving?

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<v Speaker 1>They won't stop talking about ky Re Irving. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>the latest.

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<v Speaker 2>As we said before, Kyrie promoted a movie. We'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it an anti Semitic propaganda film because documentary is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a little too a little too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Credit for the film.

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<v Speaker 2>He and the NETS, though and the Anti Defamation League

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<v Speaker 2>have released the joint statement pledging five hundred thousand each

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<v Speaker 2>to combat anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think that money goes? Like? What where

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<v Speaker 1>does the money go to fight anti Semitism? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, doesn't it feel like a five hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>tax deductible?

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<v Speaker 1>Like fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of interesting? Kyrie gets to write that baby off.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Kyrie's statement reads like. Also, probably not

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<v Speaker 2>his statement, probably a pr statement that he just signed

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<v Speaker 2>off on.

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<v Speaker 1>But we digress.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go I oppose all forms of hatred and oppression

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<v Speaker 2>and stand strong with the communities that are marginalized and

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<v Speaker 2>impacted every day. I am aware of the negative impact

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<v Speaker 2>of my post towards the Jewish community, and I take responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not believe everything said in the documentary was

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<v Speaker 2>true or reflects my morals and principles. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>human being learning from all walks of life, and I

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<v Speaker 2>intend to do so with an open mind and a

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<v Speaker 2>willingness to listen. So for my family and I, we

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<v Speaker 2>meant no harm to one group, race, religion of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and wish to only be a beacon of light and truth.

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<v Speaker 2>What was true in that movie that he thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was putting light on No one asked him that wish

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<v Speaker 2>they would. People hammered him for not unequivocally disavowing the

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<v Speaker 2>propaganda film or anti Semitism, and I mean Adam Silver

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish Man himself. He has now set up a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with Kyrie next week. His opinion is summed up in

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<v Speaker 2>his statement. He called Kyrie reckless. He's disappointed in Kyrie

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<v Speaker 2>and that Kyrie has not offered an unqualified apology. He

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<v Speaker 2>or denounced the vile and harmful content contained in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>He chose to publicize really quickly, very small tangent because

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<v Speaker 2>it was Jay Williams. Jay Williams said, I hate the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are like the whataboutisms giving us the what aboutisms?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, what about Amazon?

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<v Speaker 2>Why aren't we's talking about Jeff Bezos and why Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>chose to put that movie on Amazon?

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, bitch? Do I cover Amazon? Do I cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Movies and film and distribution platforms? Do I cover Disney

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<v Speaker 2>Plus and HBO Max? And fucking what the new movies

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<v Speaker 2>are and critiquing them? Am I Roger and Ebert to you? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking cover basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're talking about, Kyrie because he promoted a

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<v Speaker 2>film in air quotes that had anti Semitic rhetoric. Do

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<v Speaker 2>I give a shit about Amazon? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>But does it make it on this podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck? No?

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<v Speaker 2>So why are you bringing that up? Jay Williams to

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<v Speaker 2>protect Kyrie Irving? I don't know, because you both went

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<v Speaker 2>to Duke I Digress today.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving held.

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<v Speaker 2>The press conference and said a few things I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>You have an anti cumenicolice. Again, I'm gonna repeat, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how the label becomes justified because you guys

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<v Speaker 3>asked me the same questions over and over again. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is not going to turn into a spin around cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions upon questions. I told you guys how I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>I respect all walks of life and embraced all walks

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<v Speaker 3>of life. That's where I said. I think people want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>That question.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot be anti Semitic if I know where I

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<v Speaker 3>come from. I cannot be anti Semitic. If I know

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<v Speaker 3>where I come from.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to probably discuss this in a second. We

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<v Speaker 2>got one more quote, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember what he just said.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot be anti Semitic if I know where I

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<v Speaker 2>come from.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to compare anyone's atrocities or tragic events

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<v Speaker 3>that their families have dealt with generations of time. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just here to continue to expose things that our world

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<v Speaker 3>continues to put in darkness. I'm a light. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>beacon of light. That's what I'm here to do. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys ask me questions about basketball. I give you my

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<v Speaker 3>expert opinion. You guys asked me about other things. I

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<v Speaker 3>give you my opinion, and it's met with whatever you believe.

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<v Speaker 3>The perception or the deception is, do you guys investigate

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<v Speaker 3>my life every day?

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<v Speaker 2>My question is this, he said, I cannot be anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitic if I know where I come from. I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be anti Semitic if I know where I come from

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<v Speaker 2>and I am going to expose things that our world

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<v Speaker 2>continues to put in darkness. You guys are smart people.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think Kyrie Irving's trying to say? Why

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<v Speaker 2>can't Kyrie Irving be anti Semitic if he knows where

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<v Speaker 2>he comes from? Does Kyrie believe that he himself is

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<v Speaker 2>a Semi He is Semitic because of his ancestry, because

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<v Speaker 2>of his African ancestry. Because if he does, then that

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what the film is based about about how

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<v Speaker 2>his ancestry are.

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<v Speaker 1>The original Semites, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been criticized and widely dismissed by pretty much every

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<v Speaker 2>historian that you can find. So there is nothing rooted

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<v Speaker 2>in truth in that. I'm pretty sure though, that's not gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not gonna go away, is it? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there was a rabbi on NBA today today, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that that was where we were going,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is where we are going.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out Malik Andrews today is half Jewish. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that either.

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<v Speaker 2>More you learn, more you learn, And it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie is gonna continue to send these little subtle shady digs,

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<v Speaker 2>like little conspiracy theory nuggets. I will call them sprinkling

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<v Speaker 2>them like Kanye Off his meds. But you know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, anyone's guess how this is gonna end up

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<v Speaker 2>with now Eme Udoka in the mix and Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix and Kyrie Irving and his film study,

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<v Speaker 2>which means, I mean, and you gotta imagine the email

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<v Speaker 2>is probably not gonna put up with this bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>He called out Jason Tatum, He called out Marcus Smart,

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<v Speaker 2>he called out all of them, Jaylen Brown, which means,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can do math or you can just put

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<v Speaker 2>your little logic hat on, Kyrie's time in Brooklyn just

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<v Speaker 2>might be on borrow time