Speaker 1: You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick.
Speaker 2: On this episode of the Heat Check, the Josh Primo
Speaker 2: saga in San Antonio gets a little more meaty and
Speaker 2: I am now this episode turning into private Dick Crick
Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: The Timberwolves have a huge problem, and finally people are
Speaker 1: starting to realize it.
Speaker 2: And now there is more developing situations on the Kyrie
Speaker 2: anti semitism situation. That is a sentence I never thought
Speaker 2: I would say until this week.
Speaker 1: Plus some news from around the league.
Speaker 2: In a very short interview with Travis Thomas, our guy
Speaker 2: who is now at Nessen, about the potential email you
Speaker 2: donk Iron Brooklyn, Yeah, so much, Pop and Nick drop
Speaker 2: that fucking beat.
Speaker 1: So today it comes out, I got people in my inbox,
Speaker 1: Het tres use you this? You see that ESPN story?
Speaker 2: This? Why do they think I want? Why do they
Speaker 2: think I want? These unsolicited links?
Speaker 1: We don't we know.
Speaker 2: I have to add, they have to ask for my
Speaker 2: consent to send me things about even just the news
Speaker 2: about a Dick pic I want to consent to. So
Speaker 2: we got a little more details on the Josh Primo cacophony.
Speaker 1: Get it cacophony.
Speaker 2: I have to say, there's been so much synonyms searching today. Anyway,
Speaker 2: It's something, it is something. If you haven't heard this news,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to talk about it, but
Speaker 2: it's pretty much the biggest news in the NBA right.
Speaker 1: Now, So you know, I'm gonna try. Here are the facts.
Speaker 2: So as you know, Josh Primo, we talked about this
Speaker 2: on the last pod, has been released from the San
Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs for potentially allegedly exposing himself to who.
Speaker 1: Now we know who. Here are the facts. Doctor Hilary Coffin.
Speaker 2: Was the Spurs sports psychologist right she was treating Josh
Speaker 2: Primo in a medical capacity in December twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: when she alleged that he exposed himself. According to her lawsuit,
Speaker 2: she reported it to the Spurs management in January twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. Now listen, I'm not a calendar expert, and
Speaker 2: we don't know the exact timing of the situation or
Speaker 2: the incident.
Speaker 1: The therapy session.
Speaker 2: Could have occurred on December thirtieth, she could have reported
Speaker 2: it to the Spurs January second, so it could be
Speaker 2: a few days between December and January. But I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's what the statement really implies. Right anyway, that,
Speaker 2: according to doctor Coffin, here's where it gets interesting, Primo
Speaker 2: exposed himself to her during therapy sessions no less than.
Speaker 1: Nine times over the following months.
Speaker 2: Can we just say that one more time, just to
Speaker 2: get it together and just get it straight. She's alleging
Speaker 2: that Primo exposed himself to her during therapy sessions no
Speaker 2: less than nine time, not ten, not just a clean number,
Speaker 2: no less than nine.
Speaker 1: So she has documented nine.
Speaker 2: And there may be more during a period of months.
Speaker 1: Pause, there's a lot. There's a lot. There isn't there,
Speaker 1: There's a lot.
Speaker 2: First of all, let me just unequivocally make this known,
Speaker 2: because I'm making light of this, so I want it
Speaker 2: to be known as a female on the internet that
Speaker 2: lives my life on the internet gets paid from stuff
Speaker 2: on the internet.
Speaker 1: I am one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent opposed to unexpected, unprovoked dick in any capacity, in
Speaker 2: any capacity, photos in real life, IRL, you know, IRL.
Speaker 1: Dick, photo, dick, all of it.
Speaker 2: If I didn't ask for said in yeah it even
Speaker 2: if we're being intimate, if maybe I don't want to
Speaker 2: see it tonight, you know, like so pretty much all
Speaker 2: women have to deal with this.
Speaker 1: And to that end, I will say that is bad.
Speaker 2: It's really bad. There's a reason why it's jail for
Speaker 2: exposing yourself. And I believe that doctor Coffin did not
Speaker 2: want to see Josh Primo's dick. I believe that, and
Speaker 2: I think that's horrible. And I do believe that she
Speaker 2: probably went to the Spurs management and said, hey, do
Speaker 2: you think maybe Josh could uh come to the sessions
Speaker 2: with sweatpants on.
Speaker 1: Versus shorts? Uh? And it leads me to the following point.
Speaker 1: First of all, there's only.
Speaker 2: A few ways that exposing yourself happens, right. Pants on
Speaker 2: are not one of them, unless you're unzipping and letting
Speaker 2: things fly. But how many dick exposures does it take
Speaker 2: for you to say something?
Speaker 1: Think about that? Think about that?
Speaker 2: To me, there's only really one right answer, and it's two.
Speaker 1: It's two.
Speaker 2: The first time, it could be an accident, unless someone
Speaker 2: was like, what do you think about this? You know,
Speaker 2: But if if it's not that, because that's one that
Speaker 2: the answer to that is one, Hey, no nobody wants that.
Speaker 1: But if it's like on the slide, if it's dick,
Speaker 1: on the sly it's two.
Speaker 2: Because if you see someone's penis through their underneath their
Speaker 2: shorts or popping out.
Speaker 1: Could be an accident, could be like turtle turtle, could.
Speaker 2: Be an accident. Right, second time, it's a pattern. Right
Speaker 2: second time, we got problems. You need to say, listen,
Speaker 2: this stick is uninvited to the party.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. The stick's not a part
Speaker 1: of our sessions. You know what I mean. Needed to
Speaker 1: put him away nine times?
Speaker 2: At least you saw Josh Primo's dick at least nine times.
Speaker 1: And you're a therapist, you're a medical professional. It all
Speaker 1: just is getting a little weird to me.
Speaker 2: No, nobody should have that again, unequivocally, you know, we
Speaker 2: are anti that nobody should have to be reminded that
Speaker 2: they need to listen, put your dick away.
Speaker 1: But maybe.
Speaker 2: You know, boys are telling us by the time they
Speaker 2: could walk right three years old, four.
Speaker 1: Years old, they take off their pants, they take off.
Speaker 2: Their diaper, they're running around, they're waving it around, and
Speaker 2: then the parents scrab them aside. They say no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you can't do that anymore. No dick out on the streets.
Speaker 2: But Primo obviously didn't get the message. Now, she didn't
Speaker 2: tell them, didn't say anything to him. That's what his
Speaker 2: lawyers are alleging. She has not said that she ever
Speaker 2: told him, but Primo is also accused of exposing himself
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas at Summer League as well also on
Speaker 2: the road this year in Minnesota at the hotel.
Speaker 1: Primo's team says, it's all an accident.
Speaker 2: This is where again we're starting to get into strange territory.
Speaker 2: Did it was strictly this is the quote, folks, quote
Speaker 2: not for me.
Speaker 1: This is the quote.
Speaker 2: Strictly a wardrobe malfunction resulting from this is what I
Speaker 2: thought it could be too. This is where my mind went,
Speaker 2: resulting from laying down on a couch in basketball shorts,
Speaker 2: obviously with no underwear.
Speaker 1: That is their quote.
Speaker 2: Wardrobe malfunction taken strictly out of the Janet Jackson Super
Speaker 2: Bowl handbook. I don't know that holds water at a
Speaker 2: court of all, you know what I mean. The bottom line, though,
Speaker 2: is this, He is now stating he's in therapy for her.
Speaker 2: He is now stating Josh Primo is now stating I
Speaker 2: almost didn't talk about this, but so ludicrous. Josh Primo said,
Speaker 2: I am now seeking treatment for this trauma. Imagine his
Speaker 2: new therapist when she finds out what he's seeking trauma
Speaker 2: for and why he was removed from the team. I
Speaker 2: have questions, were there any therapy sessions where he didn't
Speaker 2: exposes dick or were they all of them? Right? What
Speaker 2: percentage of dick out versus dick in are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Was it one? Was it one out of every ten?
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, yeah, once at every We've had ninety sessions,
Speaker 2: have only seen his dick nine times?
Speaker 1: Was this a case of this is important? This is
Speaker 1: very important to ask. Is this a case of sleeping
Speaker 1: dog or barking dog? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Sleeping or barking? Was the maleman at the door? Or
Speaker 2: was dog back in the closet sleeping in its house?
Speaker 2: We can't have angry worm situations here, because that's.
Speaker 1: Now a whole other thing.
Speaker 2: Is this a case of Josh Primo just not liking
Speaker 2: to wear draws.
Speaker 1: He's Is this a case? Honestly? Is this a case.
Speaker 2: Where the San Antonio Spurs didn't provide him with the
Speaker 2: proper equipment, not shorts, the right size, shirts, the right size.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's a free baller at heart?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Listen, we're not hearing anything about balls either, nothing around balls.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking Lonzo and LaMelo and Leangelo either. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about what is this situation?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Again? Not here to diminish.
Speaker 2: There are serious accusations of misconduct, but you have to
Speaker 2: admit when you dig into the.
Speaker 1: Details, it's ludicrous, all of it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a prick here, but it
Speaker 2: feels like, based on some of the story, someone's getting
Speaker 2: the shaft, you know what I mean. Of course, we'll
Speaker 2: be updating this when we learn more, but I'll end
Speaker 2: with this. If you're a paid psychologist for an NBA
Speaker 2: team and you can't tell a nineteen year old to
Speaker 2: put his dick away, you're kind of a weenie.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 2: We dropped a special breaking news episode yesterday, and now
Speaker 2: we're just waiting, right or waiting for Ema Udoka to
Speaker 2: be hired us a new coach of the Brooklyn Nets,
Speaker 2: and we'll do another emergency podcast that for that as well.
Speaker 2: And still, when you fired a Hall of fame two
Speaker 2: time MVP point.
Speaker 1: Guard head coach.
Speaker 2: To hire, I don't know a guy who's been suspended
Speaker 2: for an entire year for the reigning Eastern Conference champions
Speaker 2: by having an inappropriate consensual relationship with a team employee.
Speaker 2: Why is it that everyone can only talk about Kyrie Irving?
Speaker 1: They won't stop talking about ky Re Irving. Here is
Speaker 1: the latest.
Speaker 2: As we said before, Kyrie promoted a movie. We'll call
Speaker 2: it an anti Semitic propaganda film because documentary is probably
Speaker 2: a little too a little too much.
Speaker 1: Credit for the film.
Speaker 2: He and the NETS, though and the Anti Defamation League
Speaker 2: have released the joint statement pledging five hundred thousand each
Speaker 2: to combat anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: Where do you think that money goes? Like? What where
Speaker 1: does the money go to fight anti Semitism? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know.
Speaker 2: Also, doesn't it feel like a five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: tax deductible?
Speaker 1: Like fine?
Speaker 2: Kind of interesting? Kyrie gets to write that baby off.
Speaker 2: This is what Kyrie's statement reads like. Also, probably not
Speaker 2: his statement, probably a pr statement that he just signed
Speaker 2: off on.
Speaker 1: But we digress.
Speaker 2: Let's go I oppose all forms of hatred and oppression
Speaker 2: and stand strong with the communities that are marginalized and
Speaker 2: impacted every day. I am aware of the negative impact
Speaker 2: of my post towards the Jewish community, and I take responsibility.
Speaker 2: I do not believe everything said in the documentary was
Speaker 2: true or reflects my morals and principles. I am a
Speaker 2: human being learning from all walks of life, and I
Speaker 2: intend to do so with an open mind and a
Speaker 2: willingness to listen. So for my family and I, we
Speaker 2: meant no harm to one group, race, religion of people,
Speaker 2: and wish to only be a beacon of light and truth.
Speaker 2: What was true in that movie that he thought he
Speaker 2: was putting light on No one asked him that wish
Speaker 2: they would. People hammered him for not unequivocally disavowing the
Speaker 2: propaganda film or anti Semitism, and I mean Adam Silver
Speaker 2: Jewish Man himself. He has now set up a meeting
Speaker 2: with Kyrie next week. His opinion is summed up in
Speaker 2: his statement. He called Kyrie reckless. He's disappointed in Kyrie
Speaker 2: and that Kyrie has not offered an unqualified apology. He
Speaker 2: or denounced the vile and harmful content contained in the film.
Speaker 2: He chose to publicize really quickly, very small tangent because
Speaker 2: it was Jay Williams. Jay Williams said, I hate the
Speaker 2: people who are like the whataboutisms giving us the what aboutisms?
Speaker 1: Like, well, what about Amazon?
Speaker 2: Why aren't we's talking about Jeff Bezos and why Amazon
Speaker 2: chose to put that movie on Amazon?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, bitch? Do I cover Amazon? Do I cover.
Speaker 2: Movies and film and distribution platforms? Do I cover Disney
Speaker 2: Plus and HBO Max? And fucking what the new movies
Speaker 2: are and critiquing them? Am I Roger and Ebert to you? No?
Speaker 1: I fucking cover basketball.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about, Kyrie because he promoted a
Speaker 2: film in air quotes that had anti Semitic rhetoric. Do
Speaker 2: I give a shit about Amazon? Sure?
Speaker 1: But does it make it on this podcast?
Speaker 3: Fuck? No?
Speaker 2: So why are you bringing that up? Jay Williams to
Speaker 2: protect Kyrie Irving? I don't know, because you both went
Speaker 2: to Duke I Digress today.
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving held.
Speaker 2: The press conference and said a few things I thought
Speaker 2: was interesting.
Speaker 3: You have an anti cumenicolice. Again, I'm gonna repeat, I
Speaker 3: don't know how the label becomes justified because you guys
Speaker 3: asked me the same questions over and over again. But
Speaker 3: this is not going to turn into a spin around cycle.
Speaker 3: Questions upon questions. I told you guys how I felt.
Speaker 3: I respect all walks of life and embraced all walks
Speaker 3: of life. That's where I said. I think people want
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 2: That question.
Speaker 3: I cannot be anti Semitic if I know where I
Speaker 3: come from. I cannot be anti Semitic. If I know
Speaker 3: where I come from.
Speaker 2: We need to probably discuss this in a second. We
Speaker 2: got one more quote, but.
Speaker 1: Remember what he just said.
Speaker 2: I cannot be anti Semitic if I know where I
Speaker 2: come from.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to compare anyone's atrocities or tragic events
Speaker 3: that their families have dealt with generations of time. I'm
Speaker 3: just here to continue to expose things that our world
Speaker 3: continues to put in darkness. I'm a light. I'm a
Speaker 3: beacon of light. That's what I'm here to do. You
Speaker 3: guys ask me questions about basketball. I give you my
Speaker 3: expert opinion. You guys asked me about other things. I
Speaker 3: give you my opinion, and it's met with whatever you believe.
Speaker 3: The perception or the deception is, do you guys investigate
Speaker 3: my life every day?
Speaker 2: My question is this, he said, I cannot be anti
Speaker 2: Semitic if I know where I come from. I cannot
Speaker 2: be anti Semitic if I know where I come from
Speaker 2: and I am going to expose things that our world
Speaker 2: continues to put in darkness. You guys are smart people.
Speaker 2: What do you think Kyrie Irving's trying to say? Why
Speaker 2: can't Kyrie Irving be anti Semitic if he knows where
Speaker 2: he comes from? Does Kyrie believe that he himself is
Speaker 2: a Semi He is Semitic because of his ancestry, because
Speaker 2: of his African ancestry. Because if he does, then that
Speaker 2: is exactly what the film is based about about how
Speaker 2: his ancestry are.
Speaker 1: The original Semites, which.
Speaker 2: Has been criticized and widely dismissed by pretty much every
Speaker 2: historian that you can find. So there is nothing rooted
Speaker 2: in truth in that. I'm pretty sure though, that's not gonna.
Speaker 1: This is not gonna go away, is it? Is it?
Speaker 2: Because there was a rabbi on NBA today today, Like
Speaker 2: I did not know that that was where we were going,
Speaker 2: but that is where we are going.
Speaker 1: I found out Malik Andrews today is half Jewish. Didn't
Speaker 1: know that either.
Speaker 2: More you learn, more you learn, And it feels like
Speaker 2: Kyrie is gonna continue to send these little subtle shady digs,
Speaker 2: like little conspiracy theory nuggets. I will call them sprinkling
Speaker 2: them like Kanye Off his meds. But you know what
Speaker 2: it is, anyone's guess how this is gonna end up
Speaker 2: with now Eme Udoka in the mix and Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: in the mix and Kyrie Irving and his film study,
Speaker 2: which means, I mean, and you gotta imagine the email
Speaker 2: is probably not gonna put up with this bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: He called out Jason Tatum, He called out Marcus Smart,
Speaker 2: he called out all of them, Jaylen Brown, which means,
Speaker 2: if you can do math or you can just put
Speaker 2: your little logic hat on, Kyrie's time in Brooklyn just
Speaker 2: might be on borrow time