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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the cool things that Keith and I

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Speaker 2: we talked about last night in Green Bay and in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: There's iconic players and they come back around and they

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Speaker 2: live in the city and they call Pittsburgh home full time,

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Speaker 2: and there's something special about that. Always said there's something

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Speaker 2: in the water when you look at the great quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that come from the area. But it's fun to be

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Speaker 2: a part of this organization and the iconic Packers' organization

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Speaker 2: for so long too.

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Speaker 3: What's going on Steelers Nation? It is the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Hus Shooler and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: with you for the next two hours on this Friday,

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Speaker 3: is Matt, we get ready for a big one Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the Steelers, the Packers, two iconic franchises, a

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Speaker 3: bunch of legends there. As you heard Aaron Rodgers say yeah,

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Speaker 3: and of course one of the biggest Packers legends now

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Speaker 3: playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. With that question, of course,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, this is going to be a big one.

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about this yesterday, but you know,

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Speaker 3: like there is there is a lot of other kind

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Speaker 3: little bit of the Dublin matchup in that regard. It's

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Speaker 3: not just as simple as Steelers Packers. It's not just

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Speaker 3: as simple as Steelers Vikings. When you get into the

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Speaker 3: third and the fourth quarter, maybe that stuff doesn't matter,

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Speaker 3: But I'm also not sure you know that. I think

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Speaker 3: it can in moments like this between what feels like

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Speaker 3: two evenly matched teams at this moment in late October.

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Speaker 5: So Myke Pursudter brings us up a lot lately, and

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Speaker 5: he's like, Williams, sound's blown away with you in the

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Speaker 5: Dublin pregame show. He's like, you're he gets on me.

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Speaker 5: You're so analytical and Matt's stats and blah blah blah,

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Speaker 5: and you know, you're talking the whole pregame show about

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Speaker 5: how Minnesota is the better team than the Steelers at

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Speaker 5: the time, but you just took the Steelers out of emotion,

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Speaker 5: like what the heck's going on around here? And you're right,

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Speaker 5: And he's like, maybe I could learn something from that,

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Speaker 5: and I might do it to the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: you know, like, I think this one has a little

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Speaker 5: bit of that feel where maybe there's not a ton

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Speaker 5: of matchups on paper that you love. There's not a

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Speaker 5: lot that I hate, but there's not a lot that

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Speaker 5: you love. And I really think the Packers we touched

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Speaker 5: on it yesterday, they're a tough team to find weaknesses

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Speaker 5: with totally. I mean, they're pretty solid top to bottom,

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Speaker 5: you know. I mean it's not like, boy, but their

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Speaker 5: linebackers are terrible, you know. I mean, they're pretty solid

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Speaker 5: top to bottom. So you're gonna have to play a

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Speaker 5: buttoned up, strong game. But we can't forget that these

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Speaker 5: are human beings too, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It matters, it does, And Matt, it's kind of in

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Speaker 3: these types of scenarios where it feels like you're analyzing

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Speaker 3: a little bit more than just x's and o's. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know what I love about sports, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like going to Dublin and being like, hey, it feels

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Speaker 3: like the Vikings are playing a little bit better right now,

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Speaker 3: and that defense could cause the Steelers some issues. Justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson's a star and they're getting Jordan Addison back and

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Speaker 3: all these things and the you know, the Steelers are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some stuff going on to contributors, but.

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Speaker 3: It's like this has been a moment thirty years in

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Speaker 3: the making for this organization, you know. And you can

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Speaker 3: feel kind of mister Rudy's presence smiling down in the

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you and I can feel it on

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Speaker 5: the other flight that the players aren't on and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And I don't think, to be fair that

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Speaker 3: this is quite to that this is not thirty years

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Speaker 3: not just right now matchups on a sheet.

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Speaker 5: Of paper, and one of them is the defense getting

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Speaker 4: That's another great plaint, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if it wasn't the Packers, if they're playing

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Speaker 5: Like I was a little too young to really but

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Speaker 5: night football was the thing, actually, and everyone glued to

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Speaker 5: little bit more anyway. And getting embarrassed even on Thursday

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Speaker 4: Had even longer to wallow hear about it. Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: It again and again, like how are we this bad?

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Speaker 3: And you see all the love that Joe Flacco has

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Speaker 5: Right, and hey feel that loss for a long time

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Speaker 5: and your body's resting in the meantime, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, absolutely right, And you know what, maybe that's one

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and the special edition uniforms and all those things.

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Speaker 3: Could the rest advantage be one of the biggest factors

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Speaker 5: The more I do this for a living and the

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Speaker 5: do the work on it, rest advantage is huge. It's

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Speaker 3: This point of the season. It's not December, but it's

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Speaker 5: Right, There's just a lot of data the shows teams

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Speaker 5: with a rest advantage win a lot more than they love,

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Speaker 5: you know, in a generic world, not knowing what spreads are,

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to point out too.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked a little bit about this yesterday

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I forget.

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Speaker 3: Someone was like I kind of look back into that

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Speaker 3: I said that road loss, I might have just said

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Speaker 5: There's a lot more of those. I just home.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that I put that

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Speaker 3: an additional question about that on Twitter last night.

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Speaker 5: But the bottom line is Tomlin teams have rebounded in

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Speaker 5: a very positive way after a Thursday road law. Correct,

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Speaker 5: And it hasn't happened once or twice.

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Speaker 3: Nor This is your nineteen for Mike Tomlin. So that's

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Speaker 3: a pretty large sample size. And with all that stuff, Matt,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of excitement in that regard, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the mystic nature around this game, right.

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Speaker 5: And all the whoa you get Rogers Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One to me though, I think the fun part about

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Speaker 3: it's proven time for the for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Right, like, coming off a loss and you're coming four

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Speaker 5: or could it be three one?

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Speaker 3: You know, if you were going into this stretch here

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Speaker 5: I don't think you absolutely what you got a buffer?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a little bit of a buffer there.

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Speaker 5: Of Okay, if you come of a team just math

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Speaker 3: You play a bad game in here, who cares. You've

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Speaker 5: Ether one and two in these next three and it's like.

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Speaker 3: Exactly still six and three. Yeah, there's a big difference

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Speaker 3: and four. And so I've found myself, Matt, really getting

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Speaker 3: excited for this, for this game for the last couple

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Speaker 3: because of Sunday night football, because of coming off the

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Speaker 3: Of course, because of the Aaron Rodgers storyline, one of

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Speaker 3: speculation time is over. Like we think we know a

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Speaker 3: But the next three weeks it is time to line

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Speaker 3: up and play and find out who you really are

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Speaker 3: against three really good teams.

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Speaker 5: Like I am, they all look like playoff teams, you know,

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited for this stretch run here because

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Speaker 3: it's like we spend so much portion of the early season,

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Speaker 3: who are you really speculating?

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Speaker 4: Where can you improve? Where have you improved?

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Speaker 3: But now it's it's time to go out there, line

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Speaker 3: up and play and really show what you're worth, really

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Speaker 3: show your mental against like you said, three in all

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and one of them is the Chargers who played

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Speaker 5: last night, And I really felt like watching that game.

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Speaker 5: To your point, we're at the point of the season.

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Speaker 5: What's in that game. I'm like, Okay, the Charger I

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Speaker 5: believe now it's not a one off game. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: Bikes are in trouble and Chargers are a good playoff,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be Like, Man, that Thursday

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Speaker 5: night game is kind of fluky for both these teams.

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Speaker 5: I think they both kind of and I never overestimate

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Speaker 5: Thursday night games, but I felt like they both told

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Speaker 5: us who they are. Side note, I think you even

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Speaker 3: Folks, I'm sure if your uncle was here talking to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it used to be and it's still similar

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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, absolutely, And so this is a real

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Speaker 5: They're playing younger guys and having those type of conversations.

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Speaker 4: Ready to publish. If the Steelers lose this game Sunday.

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Speaker 5: We know what we'll hear. You know that's going to

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Speaker 5: I think so. I think so. And we know how

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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely right, all those you know, good tidings

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear.

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Speaker 3: That exactly exactly right. And so it is one of

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Speaker 3: Back on the Drive here on a Friday, as all

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Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel any of that that there's some you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and agree Dublin was like on its own level,

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Speaker 6: This is not the same as Week one against the

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Speaker 3: And kind of sticking with that, Missy, there are some

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Speaker 6: got to fix this, but you can't fix it until

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Speaker 6: you cook put something better on tape, and they had

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Speaker 6: to wait even longer for it. And I think, knowing

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Speaker 6: you know what's at stake with this game the next

440
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Speaker 6: few games coming up, I mean really the rest of

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Speaker 6: their schedule, but there's just there's some key games coming

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Speaker 6: up that I think, you know, if players don't want

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Speaker 6: to look ahead, that we can look ahead and say, like,

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Speaker 6: you got to get that one, or if you get

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Speaker 6: that one, that's really going to help them down the road,

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Speaker 6: or when you start looking at you know, the playoff

447
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Speaker 6: pitcher and whatnot, even you know, amongst the division you

448
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Speaker 6: play the Bengals kind of soon too again. So I

449
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Speaker 6: definitely think this defense is ready to like right the

450
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Speaker 6: ship because what just went so wrong in Cincinnati can't

451
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Speaker 6: happen again. And I think because they were on such

452
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Speaker 6: a role prior to that where it was like if

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Speaker 6: they get five sacks, you know, for the third game

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Speaker 6: in a row, like it's this and that, and then

455
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Speaker 6: it was just the complete opposite in terms of their performance.

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Speaker 6: So it's like the defense needs needs to get back

457
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Speaker 6: out there for themselves. But then also I think, you know,

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Speaker 6: they appreciate what Aaron Rodgers has also brought to this

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Speaker 6: team and the leadership and what he's doing in terms

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Speaker 6: of the offense.

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Speaker 5: So Wes and I were kind of talking too about

462
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Speaker 5: how this is sort of a pivotal game at the

463
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Speaker 5: stage of the season, and you can say that most weeks.

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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, but is this the start of

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Speaker 5: a losing streak? You know, I mean, you got a tough,

466
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Speaker 5: tough schedule coming up here. Could this be the poor

467
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Speaker 5: you know, you're talking a couple of weeks from now,

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Speaker 5: like a you start playing younger guys or after you know,

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Speaker 5: Sunday Night. Are we saying, ah, that Thursday game is

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Speaker 5: kind of al on the radar, that's not really who

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Speaker 5: they are. I mean, I kind of am feeling that,

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Speaker 5: especially with so many eyes on this game, that perception

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Speaker 5: of this team could change dramatically with the outcome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think perception changed on Thursday night. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know it's Thursday Night's not the same as Sunday Night.

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Speaker 6: But it's still the only game. So if you want

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Speaker 6: to watch football during the week, you know, he turned

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Speaker 6: it on. I think it was just also the manner

479
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Speaker 6: in which they did it. Plus everybody loves the good stories.

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Speaker 6: But like you know, Joe Flacco having twelve practice reps

481
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Speaker 6: with Jamar Chase going out there and lighting up the

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Speaker 6: Steelers and you know, getting the ball quickly and just

483
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Speaker 6: all these things that you didn't think would happen, you know,

484
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Speaker 6: not making his life a living hell, not sacking him,

485
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Speaker 6: and you know, stopping the run. Just that definitely changed

486
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Speaker 6: the I think, at least the national perspective. I also think,

487
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Speaker 6: you know, this guy's kind of falling in Pittsburgh right

488
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Speaker 6: now because of how that went down, and it was

489
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Speaker 6: like that game that you should have won if you

490
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Speaker 6: just look at it on paper, and we all know

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Speaker 6: that that is not how football works at all. The

492
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Speaker 6: Steelers have one games, you know, in recent years that

493
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Speaker 6: they had no business winning, but it was their day

494
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Speaker 6: and they just did one more right thing. And I

495
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Speaker 6: think that really can sometimes go into it. But I

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Speaker 6: also think as much as it's killing the defense to

497
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Speaker 6: have to wait the nine days to play again, coach

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Speaker 6: Tomlin's record is fourteen and five after nine days rest,

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Speaker 6: usually coming off of a Thursday night game. You can

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Speaker 6: even go back to the Christmas game and then the

501
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Speaker 6: next game of whatnot. But you know, and at home

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Speaker 6: he's seven and three, So I think there's something to it.

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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, their record coming out of a

504
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Speaker 6: true bye week, how they typically are really good. Then two,

505
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Speaker 6: hopefully this extra time that you know, streaking continue of

506
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Speaker 6: you know, adding to the win column on it, because

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Speaker 6: I think there is something about being able to get

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Speaker 6: a group to rest, recover whatever you need to do,

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Speaker 6: but then also get ready for a game that's not quickly.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're turning the page in.

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Speaker 4: The calendar, Missy, the last one we've got for you.

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Speaker 3: I have just kind of noticed in the last twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours, has that has that this has like become

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Speaker 3: a big discussion point for a lot of people. And you,

515
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Speaker 3: of course are one of the hosts of Steelers Style.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think anyone's ever accused Matt and

517
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Speaker 3: I of being stylish, but you certainly are at the

518
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Speaker 3: at the four, certainly at the forefront of that amongst

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Speaker 3: our entire Steelers media family. Here you like the alternate

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Speaker 3: uniforms in a game like this, You know, some people

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00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: are screaming, it's two traditional franchises with great uniforms. You

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Speaker 3: got to keep that for this matchup, save the alternates

523
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Speaker 3: for somewhere else, you know, the other side saying, these

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Speaker 3: are awesome uniforms for both teams, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: cool to see a different look under the lights. Where

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Speaker 3: do you again? Is ours our rock Steelers Style co

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Speaker 3: host here. Where do you come down on that debate?

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Speaker 6: Well, I am privileged that I am, you know, the

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Speaker 6: leader of fashion for the Steelers Audio Network. I will

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Speaker 6: wear that hat proudly.

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Speaker 4: Put that on the resume as well too, Miss.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you. I like that one, my dad. It's

533
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Speaker 6: my Twitter bio. I really do like these throwback uniforms.

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Speaker 6: I'm never a fan of the like KACKI bage pants.

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Speaker 6: I didn't like it on the Bumblebees, but I didn't

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Speaker 6: like the Bumblebee uniform jersey. These I like. I think

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Speaker 6: they're sharp, the gold helmet, the gray face, masks, block letters.

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Speaker 6: It's like a little bit of everything that everybody loves,

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Speaker 6: like thrown into one uniform. And it's clearly you know,

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Speaker 6: it's throwing it back to nineteen thirty three. It's not exact.

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Speaker 6: It is, you know, something that they worked on and

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Speaker 6: that is special and important to them, and to know

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Speaker 6: it's important to the Rooney family, you know. Labs and

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Speaker 6: I always have a chance when the Steeler schedule comes

545
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Speaker 6: out to sit down with mister Rooney to talk to

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Speaker 6: him about the schedule and whatnot, and for both of us,

547
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Speaker 6: it was bringing up this throwback uniform and it's gonna

548
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Speaker 6: be on Sunday night against the Green Bay Packers. Just

549
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Speaker 6: the excitement. You know, this isn't something that day decided

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Speaker 6: in July. Oh yeah, by the way, we're gonna We're

551
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Speaker 6: gonna just roll out this uniform. I mean so much work,

552
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Speaker 6: hours and days and weeks and months go into planning

553
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Speaker 6: these types of things. And I love that the players

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Speaker 6: have been wearing the gold helmets out of practice this week,

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Speaker 6: just kind of giving you a little taste, giving them

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Speaker 6: a little taste. And you can see day by day

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Speaker 6: guys have been wearing different things with the helmets. I

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Speaker 6: can't remember if it was just Sean Elliott or it

559
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Speaker 6: was one of the DB's kind of came out in

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Speaker 6: almost like all yellow the other day and I thought,

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Speaker 6: you know, he's like playing with the color scheme. And

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. I yeah, I'm a big fan. I

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Speaker 6: don't love the Green Bay is gonna wear like all white,

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Speaker 6: Like couldn't they have worn green, you know, like the

565
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Speaker 6: Bengals wore all white last week. We wore our black jerseys.

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Speaker 6: So that's one where it might look weird if you're

567
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Speaker 6: turning it on. You know, you can instantly say, oh,

568
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Speaker 6: that's the jags and the cheeks or whatever. This one

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Speaker 6: you might have to stop and think for a second.

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Speaker 6: But the Steelers I'm a big fan of. Put it

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Speaker 6: that way.

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Speaker 5: So Missy I might not be the sn R fashion aficionado,

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Speaker 5: but let's not discount the slimming effects of the bumblebee

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Speaker 5: jersey on one Casey Hampton, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, you know those those stripes, aren't They're not friendly

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Speaker 6: to anybody, anybody that way.

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Speaker 3: The great Missy Matthews, the Queen of the Sideline and

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Speaker 3: now our resident fashion expert here amongst our Steelers Audio

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Speaker 3: Network family, Missy, great stuff is always. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: taking the time, and we'll look forward to hearing you

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Speaker 3: on the call on Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Sounds good, guys, see you Sunday.

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Speaker 3: There she goes, Missy Matthews, always able to cover a

584
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Speaker 3: bunch of different bases there with us, and that's why

585
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: we love having her on the show.

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Speaker 5: Big those jerseys, good lord.

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Speaker 4: I mean, could you imagine why a black and one

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Speaker 4: of those jerseys.

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Speaker 5: Buddy, Yeah, matt.

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Speaker 3: Not exactly slimming as miss as Missy just said right there,

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Speaker 3: great stuff from her. As always, we got to get

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Speaker 3: to our last break of the first hour here. When

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Speaker 3: we return on the other side, it's time for a

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Speaker 3: little five Star Friday. We'll get into our matchup segments

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Speaker 3: here on the drive. It's Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 5: It's a five star matchup because we're in.

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Speaker 3: We're all eyes on Sunday night, Steelers. Matt, you want

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Speaker 3: to talk about a five star matchup Steelers Packers. That

602
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Speaker 3: is a five star matchup right there, for sure, and

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Speaker 3: it is now time to uh to dive a little

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Speaker 3: bit into it to do a little more scouting of

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Speaker 3: the Packers, Matt, which side of the football you want

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Speaker 3: to start on?

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Speaker 4: There are?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's start Steelers defense Furst Packers offense. Agreed,

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Speaker 3: because I think a lot of the storylines around it

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Speaker 3: that we've discussed the effectiveness of Green Bays offense in

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Speaker 3: most situations other than intermediate passing. The Steelers coming off

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Speaker 3: of their worst performance of the season, without question, defensively,

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Speaker 3: where are we watching? What are some of the individual

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Speaker 3: matchups to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 5: I want to go down a road that we don't

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Speaker 5: often do. But you know, I did that Thursday night

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Speaker 5: show with Mike and Merrill and it showed up by

618
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Speaker 5: watching the Packers scouting the Packers, but Merrill took it

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Speaker 5: to a new level, and I just wanted to talk

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Speaker 5: about it a little bit too, because he believes that

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Speaker 5: far and away the Packers are the best screen team

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Speaker 5: in the league. Interesting, you know, that's not an aspect

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Speaker 5: we attack very much, and there's not numbers to back

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Speaker 5: that up or whatever, but it's a great way to

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Speaker 5: slow down the rush. It's a great way to get

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Speaker 5: pretty group of pretty good group of athletic linemen. They're

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Speaker 5: not special players, but they move well collectively in space.

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Speaker 5: Their tight ends will block you get dump into jacobs

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Speaker 5: or tunnel screens or whatever. But it's just one thing

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Speaker 5: I'm to make sure we talked about today since today's

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Speaker 5: the last show and Meryl brought it up last night,

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Speaker 5: and like, don't be surprised if they start to slow

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Speaker 5: that rush with a lot of screens and things like

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Speaker 5: that too.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's a great call, and you mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: Their offensive line is a great cohesive unit and that's

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Speaker 3: one of the screen game becomes much more effective when

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Speaker 3: you've got five guys that are all on the same page,

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Speaker 3: and you know with Josh Jacobs what he's able to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the force.

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Speaker 4: He's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to say Christian McCaffrey because that's

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Speaker 3: such an outline.

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Speaker 5: For example, he's he's a good Receiver's not like.

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Speaker 3: The first or second thing that you list on his

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Speaker 3: scouting report. But capable is in quality or great words

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Speaker 3: to use with him out of the backfield.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he was so critical of the Raiders when

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Speaker 5: they drafted him because they never used him as a

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Speaker 5: pass catcher at all. I mean, I think his first

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Speaker 5: don't quote me exactly, but I'm really close. His first

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Speaker 5: two years with the Raiders played like six third downs

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Speaker 5: or third and longs. I mean, I mean like third

654
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: and one. He'd be out there. But I mean, yeah,

655
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: like he was never out there even then. And he

656
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: was a really good receiver at Alabama, you know, so

657
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: Green Bay tapped into it. And again he's not going

658
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: to run wide receiver routes like McCaffrey, but you're getting

659
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: ball in space. He's more than capable. I was. It's

660
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: just another thing he does well. And he gets a

661
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: lot of touches overall, and we probably should even just

662
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: started with him. I mean, he's the foundation of the offense,

663
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: even though Jordan Love's coming along nicely, but they want

664
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 5: to run the ball. They're a high run percentage team.

665
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: He's the top five six running back in the league

666
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: right now. That finds they.

667
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: See the best back they've seen all season.

668
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: It's good.

669
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: Keith Walker pretty good, I think, answers yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

670
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: but Jenkins.

671
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: Judkins is rocketing up the list as we speak, but

672
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: maybe a little earlier on him to say he's better

673
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: than Jacobs. Yeah. Jacobs finds the end zone at a

674
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: remarkable rate too. I mean he scored the most touchdowns

675
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: amongst running backs since the start of twenty twenty four season,

676
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 5: you know, I mean he and they're not all just

677
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: plunges from short I mean, he's he's productive. He gets

678
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 5: the most out of pretty much every rep. And you're

679
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna be a sixty minute fight.

680
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And if they can get that screen game going,

681
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you're kind of second guess

682
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: and everything, and you're overthinking maybe its.

683
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: A number on a defense man, like absolutely rushing on

684
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: the field and like they keep beating me over the top,

685
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 5: and you know it's.

686
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: The same it's the same type of effect as an

687
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: effective play action game. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like it just

688
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: has your second guess and then thinking for an extra

689
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: second makes.

690
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: Those linebackers hold the water longer than they want and

691
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: then they're rushing out to the flats or whatever, taking

692
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 5: on linemen which they don't love, you know. I mean,

693
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: screen game could be really potent, and it's a hard

694
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: thing to get good at.

695
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, absolutely.

696
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: Illegal men down field.

697
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: You know again, you get that's one of those like

698
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: all all fingers on the fist have to be perfectly aligned,

699
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: or if one guy's off their mark, it's it's going

700
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 3: to be completely blown up.

701
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: I forget what list has listened to, you know, five,

702
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 5: ten years ago, but it always stuck with me. And

703
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: they said, if you see a good screen team, I

704
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: can promise you they're a well coached offensive team totally,

705
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

706
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: That makes a ton of sense.

707
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they might do other things poorly, but I bet

708
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: that it's a good coaching staff on offensive they run

709
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 5: screens effectively. Yeah, that's up. Takes a lot of practice time,

710
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 5: you know.

711
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Jordan Love the quarterback here, you and

712
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: I back in I think it was training camp. We listen,

713
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: we have three hour shows during training camp. Sure, extra

714
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: hour to kill, and yeah, there's practice and stuff going on,

715
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: but a lot of times we also get into some

716
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: bigger picture conversation. There's not a game, directause have an

717
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: extra hour to kill, and while there is practice, it's

718
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: not like there's games and a ton of tangible stuff

719
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: for us to discuss. I remember one day I can't

720
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: remember whose list, but it was either like the Athletic

721
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: or ESPN or NFL Network, one of those respected publications

722
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: came out with their I think it was top their

723
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: quarterback rankings, ranking every starter in the NFL.

724
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 5: Maybe it was Sando's Quarterback Tears.

725
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: You know somebody that we like and respect and keep

726
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: an eye on their work, and I.

727
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: Would get this whole segment on it.

728
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: I want to say, Jordan Love was like ten or

729
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: eleven if I remember, and I remember you saying that

730
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: he's a guy that I could easily see if we

731
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: do this exercise next year, being close to the top five. Yes,

732
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: you still feeling that way with the scene from him

733
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: through six games this year.

734
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: I had a handful of quarterbacks this offseason. Someone make

735
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 5: me look good, someone made me look bad that I

736
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 5: thought they have a real chance to be moving.

737
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: I think you mentioned that about CJ. Strouds Shroud.

738
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: I thought we'll get back in that neighborhood Lawrence, which

739
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: I don't feels good. I don't think you.

740
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: Gave Trevor Lawrence as much credit as Love and Stroud.

741
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: I think you did say was one, which I feel

742
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: giving one of these that.

743
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: One may the other one one great call by you.

744
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: But Love was definitely on the list of still young

745
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 5: developing players. I think careers are drastically going the right direction,

746
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: and maybe I expected a smidge more out of him

747
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 5: at the end of our over. But there's a lot

748
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: to like there really is, And I definitely think that

749
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: I was more right than wrong by putting him on

750
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: that list, that he has positive momentum. One of the

751
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 5: things I didn't I wasn't big on him coming out

752
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: of school was small school, and frankly, he made a

753
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: lot of the same mistakes over and over, you know, like,

754
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 5: is this guy learning from his mistakes or not? I mean,

755
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: but the gifts were obviously there, and I bet if

756
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 5: he was sitting here. He would credit Rogers and his

757
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 5: time for sitting behind Rogers, and Rogers learned a lot

758
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 5: from far, you know, like we I'm going to side

759
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: note it here. I mean the year I was with

760
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 5: the Browns was the year Rogers came out of college,

761
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: you know, so we need to didn't draft quarterback. We

762
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: drafted Brayleen Edwards. I watched Rogers, I graded him, and

763
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 5: he was not this free wheeling guy. I think he

764
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 5: learned a lot about playmak. He was pretty rigid. He

765
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: was rigid, right, yeah, exactly right, strange, perfect, Yeah, I

766
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 5: think he learned, right. I think he learned a lot

767
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 5: from far.

768
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: And then, like one of the biggest renegade gun slingers

769
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: we've ever.

770
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: Seen, right, right, playmaker, Rogers kind.

771
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: Of met somewhere in the middle to become the perfect balance.

772
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 5: Yes, and I think in a very similar way, Love

773
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: isn't the player they drafted, you know, in a positive way. Yeah,

774
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 5: I mean from little floor influence, the Rogers influence. I'm

775
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: sure that he I don't know that he studied poorly,

776
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 5: but I'm sure just being around Rogers this last couple

777
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 5: of months, I'm sure the professionalism and the way Rogers

778
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: prepares definitely wore off on love, because.

779
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: That's one of the motes used to say that all

780
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: the time, Like when the conversation would come up of

781
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: like is Brett far of a good mentor?

782
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: So he could a mentor that.

783
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: You know, there's that those conversations all the time when

784
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: a young quarterback gets drafted by a.

785
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: Team that best buds having beers together.

786
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: Right, and and and then you know, and then Aaron

787
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers got the microphone in front of his face and

788
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: it's like, what are you going to do for for Jordan,

789
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: this young quarterback of UCLA.

790
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: You see that all across the league every time.

791
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: And some quarterbacks be like, it's not my job to

792
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 5: mentor them, and they're.

793
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: Right, And that's the thing that does.

794
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: I mean, they don't play a ton of time, they

795
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: spend a ton of time together.

796
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: That's the thing that motes would always bring up, was like,

797
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: even if the starter has no interest in the guy

798
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: who they've drafted to take his job, one ry.

799
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: Success still leaves clues just by being.

800
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: Quarterback and being room, being around film and.

801
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 4: Being around that guy.

802
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: Right, you know, he was like there was some some

803
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: cantankerous stuff going on with Debo in the organization around

804
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: the well documented right around the time that they drafted TJ.

805
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: Watt.

806
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: But Steve Young and Joe Montana didn't like each other.

807
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 5: But Young will be, like I learned from, success.

808
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: Leaves clues because even if they're not putting their arm

809
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: around you and you're my best friend and I can't

810
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: wait for you to take my job one day, if

811
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: you're still watching and studying how that guy prepares and

812
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: handles themselves, success leaves clues.

813
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great saying. And I'm sure especially in

814
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: a quarterback room. I mean, people forget, forget about what

815
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 5: a positional room looks like and how many hours they

816
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: spend in their position meeting rooms. The two other quarterbacks

817
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: and I said, five cheeps in there, maybe four, you

818
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: know that spend every waking hour that they can either

819
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: in structured meetings or afterwards they stay over or whatever.

820
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: And a lot of time if you're the backup, you know,

821
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 5: or waiting in the wings, of course, you're breaking down

822
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: the actual game footage of Rogers in his prime and

823
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: didn't Rogers leak it? The other day Mike mentioned this,

824
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: you know, last night, that he had a lot of

825
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: good things to say about love, a lot of good

826
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: things to say about the organization. But then under his

827
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 5: breath he said something like, yeah, well I was winning

828
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: back to back MVPs and love sitting in the room

829
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: watching back to back MVP tape every day, you know.

830
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: Like via osmosis.

831
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, An, you're crazy if you don't gain something

832
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: from that. Brady doesn't have to say a word to me,

833
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: and I'm learning from him if I'm in the roof

834
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 5: from Jimmy g or whoever.

835
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: Not the not the blow smoke up your button. But

836
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: it's the truth.

837
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: And I've told you this before when I started on

838
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: this job in twenty eighteen, you know, just being a

839
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: training camp for four weeks every day and listening to

840
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Tounch and Wolf and how they did their show, Yes,

841
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: you and Dale, and how you guys did your show.

842
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I was only doing a one hour show at that point,

843
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: one hour solo show by myself, but just sitting around

844
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: you guys, watching how you interacted, watching how you guys

845
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: watch practice.

846
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're looking for, you know, Like that was

847
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: huge for me.

848
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: It makes a ton of sense, right right, I Mean

849
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: we all had people we've learned from every step of

850
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: the way, and you're crazy if you don't embrace all

851
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 5: of that. And back to the original question. Yes, Love

852
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: is very much on the right path. Maybe a fun

853
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: project for next year or for next week or a downtime.

854
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 5: Is I thought of that? You know how my mind

855
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: works in crazy ways. Who do we steal from the Bills?

856
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: Who do we steal from here? What quarterbacks? Would you

857
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: trade this year's first round pick and next year's first

858
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 5: round pick? Of course, yes, mahomes allan if you're the Steelers,

859
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: well Love would be on that line, like that's good enough.

860
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: For you know, like age all that.

861
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, because my thoughts process on the on the exercise

862
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: is if in fact they picked twenty second and they

863
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 5: have to give the twenty second pick and next year's

864
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: first and maybe more to go get their guy, who

865
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: would you be happy with in return? You know, like

866
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: right now, if it's like if it's McCarthy with the Vikings, like,

867
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that deal. Sure, you know there's some

868
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: guys you're like, yeah, if if that's a.

869
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: Return on my first round picks for Trevor Lawrence right.

870
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: Now, right now, I'll take my chances and use the

871
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: picks on my own, or I'll use them on a

872
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: guy coming out rather than right right, right right. But

873
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 5: if it's love, yeah, I mean some are obvious borrow

874
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: of course, of course, of course, I'll give you whatever

875
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: you want. But you know, who's the guy that you'd

876
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: be really happy with if you invested heavily in this

877
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 5: draft if they turned into love? Qualifying makes sense?

878
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that makes a ton of sense.

879
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: And hopefully, uh hopefully it will not be one of

880
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: those highlight reel type games for him and the defense

881
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: will have him frustrated.

882
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Okay, so we talked about the.

883
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 5: Perfect though, I mean he's still a work in progress too.

884
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: Sure yeah, I mean this is what only this is

885
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: his third years the start.

886
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: How much stars he even has and he came out

887
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: of a small school and you know, I mean he

888
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 5: progresses nicely, but he is not Flacco from the neck op,

889
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: you know, or anything like that. Surety's played forty five games,

890
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: fifty games something like that.

891
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: Pretty close. He's played in forty eight. He's started thirty nine.

892
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 5: Okay, so I guess he had some Rogers mop up

893
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 5: duties over the years. Get him out there here.

894
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: And there, Yes, like twenty twenty one. I think Aaron

895
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: even missed a couple of games his rookie year. He

896
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: played in six games that season, played in four his

897
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: second year, and then became then became the start starter.

898
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: So this is his fifth year in the league, but

899
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 3: his thirds.

900
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: As the game crue starter. Okay, that's up.

901
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've talked about him, We've talked about Jacobs,

902
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: We've talked about that offensive line a little bit. That

903
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: just leaves the eligibles Matt.

904
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're good.

905
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: I know, Oh you love Tucker Kraftraft.

906
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: He's coming off his most used game and it's not

907
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 5: a knock on the receivers, but I think that they

908
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: realize this is one of the best young tight ends

909
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: in the league and he's a do it.

910
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: All no got some guy's a receiver, but they don't

911
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: have Chase and No.

912
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: I mean it's a deep receiver room to the point

913
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 5: where you know, we've even thrown out before the season starts.

914
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: Could they get because Steelers get that a team to

915
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: talk to in terms of they have a surplus, We're

916
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 5: using a first round pick. There a lot of young guys.

917
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: But to be honest, as it stands right now, and

918
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 5: I don't think this is how they one hundred percent

919
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 5: envisioned it. But Reid is hurt, Watson's been hurt. He

920
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: could be back for this one, Golden still learning. But

921
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: Dobbs has been the guy that's getting the most action.

922
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 5: He's on the field the most, he's the most reliable,

923
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 5: and he was often linked to the Steelers too, like,

924
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 5: how about Dobbs, that's you know, that could could be

925
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 5: the guy that the Packers move on from. He's the

926
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: oldest of those young guys. Rogers actually played with them

927
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: and they seem to have a good rapport in Dobbs's

928
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: rookie year. And I often thought then, you know, in

929
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 5: the off season, I'm like, yeah, it'd be fine. I'd

930
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 5: rather be a little better than that. But he's gotten

931
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 5: better since then. He used to be. Remember I don't

932
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: if you remember Matt Harmon was on with us the wider.

933
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: Reception Reception PSI yes, great.

934
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 5: He's phenomenal. I love Matt a lot. I think he

935
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: does really good work. But he has this term called

936
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: the sacrificial X, which is the X receiver at the

937
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. Basically just one runs wins the defense. Yeah, yes,

938
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: we're you're just getting cardio out there. You're sacrificing so

939
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: people can make plays underneath Artavis Bryant. Yeah, yeah, And

940
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 5: Dobbs was kind of a sacrificial X for a lot

941
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: of his career. Now he's doing a lot more so

942
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: he's leveled up too. So it's a good group of

943
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 5: pass catchers.

944
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: It is.

945
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: Again, they don't have the elite names like the Vikings do,

946
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: like the Bengals do, but they're strong top the bottom. Yeah,

947
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: there's a like there's a there's not the highest ceiling,

948
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: but there's a pretty high floor with them as well too.

949
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: And they can afford to have injuries like they're dealing

950
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: with now and still be good.

951
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: You know, they've got some young guys that are it's

952
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: really starting to come together for I think as well.

953
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 5: At the same time, good team speed too.

954
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, you're right. And with they get the

955
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: screen game going, that becomes a bigger issue. Yes, you know,

956
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: they get that screen game going, you start pinching up,

957
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: you start holding your water as you as you call

958
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: it for an extra half second.

959
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 5: See, then you start biting.

960
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: Those guys can get behind you. Yeah, certainly something to

961
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: keep an eye on. That's an hour in the books.

962
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: That's one half of five Stars mentioned too.

963
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: Golden ran an elite forty time and people probably look

964
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: at him as man, that's like one of the fastest

965
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 5: guys in the league. I don't, and I'll be honest,

966
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: Like he ran the you get two forties at the combine,

967
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: he runs the first one. They give him the time

968
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 5: and his face was like, I think they screwed up.

969
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: I ran. I've never run that fast in my life.

970
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: He's like, I'm good.

971
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm good.

972
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good. But he's fast. Don't get me wrong.

973
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 5: But he's not like four two flats fast, you know

974
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: what I mean. But he can get behind you.

975
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: He's uh, he's certainly wanted to keep an eye on

976
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Speaker 3: Sunday night. That's a one half of five Star Friday.

977
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: We'll spin the block and focus on the Steelers offense

978
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: against this Green Bay Packers defense. We'll do that to

979
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: kick off our number two when we return West Sheeler

980
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: Matt Williams and it's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

981
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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network.