1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Keep It Positive Sweety is available on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Just search keep It 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Positive Sweety. That's Sweety with an Ie to listen. 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm CHRISTOPHERINEE. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Hazeler, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive Sweety. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: If you can't tell, we are not in Atlanta, we 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: are in Los Angeles, guys, and we're at this beautiful 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: store called thirteen Loon located right here in Larchmont, founded 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: by Nikaeo Graco. We're ninety percent of the product, so 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: here are bipod founded. Thank you so much thirteen Loon 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: for letting us take over this beautiful space. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Stephanie E. 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: K Okafor is a dynamic and passionate leader paving new 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: grounds for how faith is engaged in today's culture. She 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: is a notable author, executive pastor of The Potter's House 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: at one LA, and a talk show host who aims 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: to deliver a message of audacious faith, renewed would hope, 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: and God's unconditional love. Her profound teachings are both impactful 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: and transformative, altering the lives of many on a global scale. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Stephanie E. K okafor Stephanie, Thank you 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: so much for coming. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad to be here. 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm happy to be in LA and I'm just 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: excited to be catching up with so many amazing people. 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: So when they said that we had you as a guess, 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: I was super excited. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: No, this is great. 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: Yes, we are talking about the power of your dreams. 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Will you just tell us a little bit about yourself? 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: Yes. 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: So I'm Stephanie. I was raised in Nigeria. Born and 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: raised in Nigeria. I moved out here when I was 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: in like I think about I was about fifteen twenty 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: and sixteen, no, sixteen for college. 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: Okay, where'd you go to college? Was it here? Yeah? 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: I went to college here. Okay cool. 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: And it was just like from that moment it was 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: just one thing, that's the next, and God was just 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: kind of like orchestrating my steps until Yeah, and now 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm a pastor. 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, at one church when I travel here, that's 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the church I go to. 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I love one church. 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's amazing. So what you have a book coming out? 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: It is entitled well we have it here, but is 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: entitled The Power of Your Dreams. A Guide to Hearing 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: and Understanding how God speaks while you sleep, and that 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: comes out August twentieth. 49 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: So we're excited. 50 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: This is your first book, it's my first published but okay, yeah, 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: tell us about this the process of this book. Initially, 52 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: I was working on a book called Judas a Love Story, 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: which would sound crazy because everybody thinks of Judas as 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: a betrayer. And there was this revelation God had given 55 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: me about the love which Jesus embodied when you look 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: at his relationship with Judas, and so I was working 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 4: on that and then the Lord just interrupted the whole 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: thing and it's like, it's not yet time for that book, 59 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: but I want you to work on the book about dreams. 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: And dreams have been a constant for me ever since 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: I encounted God. So I was nine when I first 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: encounted the Lord, and I was going through at that 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: time in my life. I was very I had a 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: lot of anger issues. I was in a very dark 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: place and I had this supernatural encounter with an angel 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: and I thought the angel was God and so afterwards, 67 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a God. And then he started talking 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: to me. He was like, that's not me. That's an angel. 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: And then the consistent place that I always had encounters 70 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: and he will speak to me had been dreams. 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: Wow. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: And so when he told me to write the book, 73 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: it was really the book really comes against this whole 74 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: misconception about First of all, people think like, I'm not 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: a dreamer, That's not how God speaks to me. But 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: it is literally everyone dreams. And you know, the Bible 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: talks about the last days which we are in, and 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: it talks about how you know, God will pour out 79 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: his spirit on all flesh. And then it has this 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: part what it says and your old man shall dream 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: dreams and it has nothing to do with age. It 82 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: just has to do with spiritual maturity. 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 84 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: So the old means spiritual maturity because if you're reading that, 85 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: you would think it's. 86 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: About yeah, everybody dreams. Yeah. 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: And it has to do with the consistency. So it 88 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: doesn't say like the old man would dream, but it's 89 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: the old man out dream dreams. So there is this 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: consistent flow of revelation that God will begin to give 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: people through their dreams. Because there are things that you 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: need to see the visual imagery to really understand the 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 4: weight of the message and so it's a place where 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: God is desiring to speak to people, but it's to 95 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: wake people up to the power of their dreams. 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that is so powerful, Sephany, Oh my goodness, because 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: I dream, but someone dreams. I'm like, what did that mean? 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: You know, so you were nine years old when an 99 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: angel came to you. What you said it was a 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: really dark time in your life. What was going on 101 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: as a child that this age that you feel like 102 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: God sent an angel to you. 103 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: Yes. 104 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: So my father was murdered when I was a baby, 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: and we didn't know We later found out who was 106 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: behind it, but we knew that family was connected to it, 107 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: but we didn't know who exactly, but we knew his 108 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: family wasn't somehow involved in it. And I think growing 109 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: up for me because in Nigeria, it's really hard to 110 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: see single parent homes, so I never had a reference 111 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 4: for that. None of my friends had one parent, and 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: so I had this anger against God and my mom 113 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: loves the Lord and all of that, and I'm like, 114 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: where were you? You know, she loves you this much 115 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: and she's looking out for she's looking to you, she's 116 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: talking to us about you, and I was just angry 117 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: and it was I think as a kid, it opened 118 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: up a door where the enemy had a hold on 119 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: me because I would have I used to literally meditate on, 120 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 4: you know, avenging my father's murder, and I found joy 121 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: in that. I was just in a very dark space mentally. 122 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: And so when that happened, and the first thing God 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: starts teaching me and talking to me about was love, forgiveness, 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: understanding why people hurt you. And it literally just radically 125 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: changed my heart. 126 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Wow, that is so beautiful. So God came to or 127 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: an angel came to you in this dream? 128 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: When did life? 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 3: That's crazy? 130 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: That is like you were like awake, Yeah. 131 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: That's away. Oh my goodness. 132 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: So at nine years old, how did you know? 133 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: Wait? 134 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: This is? 135 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: It was? It was really crazy. 136 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: I was so that day my mom was looking for 137 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: a document and it was a document that would help 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: her with some of the things that was going on 139 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: at that time, and we couldn't find it. 140 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: We searched everywhere. 141 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: For this document, and I just got irritated again. 142 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, you see, God, where are you? 143 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: Because if my father was alive and and I remember 144 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: like I was going around the house and I kept 145 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: seeing just random photos of my dad, and I'm like, 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: who will put his photo in the key, you know, cabinet. 147 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: It was just weird places. 148 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: And so at night time, then I go to my 149 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: room and I could feel like this like strong presence 150 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: of a person, but I couldn't see the person, but 151 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: I knew like their presence was just so I mean 152 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: like captivating, but I couldn't. But then again, I'm a child. 153 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: I've watched scary movies, and so I'm like, i'd. 154 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: Be worried, like what is going on here? 155 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: So I go to my mom's because I was a 156 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: little panic. So I go to my mom's room and 157 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: she's like what are you doing? 158 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh no, I just want to like 159 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: sleep on your bed. 160 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: The moment I tell I get on my mom's bed, 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: she knocks out like she's out cold, and I'm. 162 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Like, hey, I just got hit him up, and she 163 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: is not responding. 164 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: And then I feel the same presence immediately in her room, 165 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: and so I'm a little panicked and I'm like okay. 166 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: So then I like cover my face with a blank 167 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: hat and I'm like scared, and so with my eyes closed, 168 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: I see this this bean, and his whole presence was 169 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: made of lights. So I see this bean sitting down 170 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: like right in the middle of the room, and I'm like, 171 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: oh my gosh. So then I like, take off my 172 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: you know, take it off. And I see the same 173 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 4: person sitting down with my eyes closed, my eyes open, 174 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: and then I remember I said this prayer and I 175 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: was like, God, I'm like, if this is of you, 176 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: cause when to flow through my ankles. And immediately there 177 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: was this gush of wind that just went through me. 178 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, if this is the God that 179 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: my mom talks about, he can't harm me. If this 180 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: is the same God, I'm like, okay, let me be 181 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: open to this. So then he stands up and where 182 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: he's sitting there's no seat, right, so he stands up, 183 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: he walks towards my mom and so I'm thinking it's God. 184 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: So I was like, where are you? 185 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: I have all this question knocked out, and he starts 186 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: talking in a language I could not And this I've 187 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: had like many encounters with angels after that. This was 188 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: the first and only time that an angel spoke like audibly. Normally, 189 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: it's like they it's almost like telepathic. And so he 190 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: starts talking, but it was a language I couldn't understand. 191 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: His voice literally sounded like an echo and a thunder. 192 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 193 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: And I'm like, so the one day, the one moment 194 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 4: I get to talk to God, you don't know I 195 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: don't speak this lad. You're supposed to know everything I don't. 196 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: I got even more irritated. 197 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: I said just like that, like here you go again. 198 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: But I think back up, like, oh God, forget before 199 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: my ignorance. 200 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: But then he walks to my mom opens her palm, 201 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: puts like this paper in her hand. 202 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Close the document, please tell me. 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: So here's a crazy thing. He closes it. 204 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: Then she wakes up after he goes then there's nothing 205 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: in her hand and I'm like, so, I'm telling her 206 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: the Storm'm like, mom, this just happened. And she's like Stephanie, 207 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: I think you were sleep dreaming. I'm like, no, I'm 208 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: telling you. 209 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: So She's like, go back to bed, look at my arm. 210 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 211 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: It was wild. So I'm like, no, like this happened. 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: I know this happened. 213 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: And so in the morning, her pastor calls her. 214 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: And Nigeria, like West Africa, is very spiritual, So her 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: pastor calls her in the morning and he was like, hey, 216 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: while I was in prayer, the Holy Spirit told me 217 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: to tell you that there was an angelic visitation in 218 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: your home last night. My mom freaks out. She's like, 219 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: this is what my daughter was telling me. We randomly 220 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: find the document. 221 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: It was just laying somewhere, like right there, laid somewhere, 222 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: and then it hit me. 223 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: I'm like that was what they placed in her hand, 224 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: like they made everything work out. And so I was like, 225 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I met God. 226 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: But now you're like, oh my goodness, this is like I. 227 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Told you, and I'm like, yeah, I met God. 228 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: And right there I heard the voice of God say 229 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: that was not me, and there was just this calmness 230 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: because now I'm like okay, like this is okay, and 231 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: it was like that was not me. 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: Then he was like that was an angel and he 233 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: told me who angels were. 234 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: And then after that like it was I think that 235 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: night of the night after in my dreams he started. 236 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: I started having encounters with the Lord. 237 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: Jesus before I even understood him, as I didn't know 238 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: like Savior. So then I was like he was. He 239 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: talked to me about him as a heavenly father and 240 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: all these things. So I'm like, oh, I do have 241 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: a dad, I just don't. So he became my dad. 242 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: So he really literally raised me and taught me and it, Yeah, 243 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 4: everything just changed from this. 244 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: That is incredible. 245 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: So how do you know it's Sephanie when God is 246 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: speaking to in your dreams or if it's just a 247 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: dream you know? 248 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 249 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: I think where we're kids, it's easier because we don't 250 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: have the cage of experiences, right, the limitation of like intelligence, 251 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: because when you the smarter, you get you know, in 252 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: the natural. It's almost like we pull back spiritually because 253 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: now we're like questioning everything. But what I do love 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: about the book is really giving people like practical wisdom 255 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: and souls. And so when we talk about how his 256 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: dream is from God, you first have to know who 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: he is, o his ways, his character, his attributes. We 258 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: live in a generation right now that people are so 259 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: hungry to know the voice of God, Like I want 260 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: to know how God is speaking to me, but it 261 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: has to be built on his word. If you don't 262 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: know the character of God, if you don't know the 263 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: ways of God, you cannot go from there. That's the foundation. 264 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: So if you don't have that, anything else that you 265 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: are trying to attain is open to corruption. 266 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: The enemy can easily deceive you. 267 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: And so really, when you start understanding the ways of God, 268 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: the characters of God, the principles of God, the standards 269 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,119 Speaker 4: of God, and then the dream, the dream. 270 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: Is like a seed. 271 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: The message of the dream is like a seed, and 272 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: it would be revealed by the fruit it. 273 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: Produces in you. 274 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: So when God gives you a dream, it doesn't leave 275 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: you feeling crippled in fear. You don't wake up and 276 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: you're just like anxious about oh my gosh. Like, for example, 277 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 4: someone could have a dream of a car accident. It's 278 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: not so much about what they saw in the dream 279 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: that tells you if it's from God or the devil. 280 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: It's more so the tone in the dream. So dreams 281 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: have feelings, they have emotions. If in the dream you 282 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: had this sense of like warning, I need to be careful, 283 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: there's something that is kind of like giving you an 284 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: understanding like hey, this can be prevented, or this is 285 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: something that is warning me about this particular event. So 286 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: there are certain symbols in the dream. So now you 287 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: have a car accident, was there a location in that dream? 288 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: Was there a place that you might be traveling to, 289 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: and so when you wake up, you don't feel like 290 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: crippled in fear. You're like, wait, I have a dream 291 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: about a car accident. God, what are you trying to 292 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: show me? You know, sometimes it may not even be 293 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: about a literal car accident. It could be about God 294 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: trying to give you a warning that, hey, you're in 295 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: a path right now. The way your life is going 296 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: is not what I called it to and in the end, 297 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: it's going to crash. So when it comes from God, 298 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: it leaves you with this impression for wanting to know more. 299 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: It leaves you with a sense of curiosity, It leaves 300 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: you with a sense of intrigue. It leaves you with 301 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: this feeling of wanting to continue the conversation, right because 302 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: it's a message. So God is sending you, it's starting 303 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: the conversation, and you want to continue it. When it's 304 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: from the enemy, nothing from the enemy produces anything that 305 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: is good, right, So it leaves you in this place 306 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: where you just feel paralyzed. You don't feel like you 307 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: feel hopeless because they what comes from them also comes 308 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: with their ambience, it comes with their essence. Yes, right, 309 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: So the enemy cannot give you a dream and you 310 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: feel like, oh, I could do something about that. No, 311 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: immediately you feel defeated. Right, So when it comes from God, 312 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: dreams that come from the Lord doesn't always have to 313 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: be incredible, amazing and fun. 314 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: Somethings could be warning. 315 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: Right, that's crazy. 316 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: So I just got here Sunday, say, Saturday, and I 317 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: had the craziest like series of dreams. And you know, 318 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of times you can't remember, yeah, but I'm like, 319 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. This one I remembered 320 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: exactly what it was. And I was leaving an event 321 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: and someone followed me home and I kept saying to myself, 322 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: make sure you keep checking and make sure like they're 323 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: not trailing it, and they did. But then when I 324 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: get home, I see like this pickup truck at my 325 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: gate in my neighborhood and this man is like letting 326 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: people in to rob my neighbor. And as I'm trying 327 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: to text and say, hey, Jennifer, somebody that they're breaking 328 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: your house, wake up, my fingers aren't working, like you 329 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: know how you try to say something hitting the wrong 330 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: letter like, and I couldn't get it. 331 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: But the girl that followed me home. 332 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: I was like call nine one one and I was like, God, 333 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: did you send her because you knew I wouldn't be 334 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: able to help help my neighbors. 335 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: But it was the I got. I don't know what 336 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: it is, but I was even talking to the Dora. 337 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? Like what was that? 338 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I know at this phase of my life, 339 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I've had people that are fans that have showed up 340 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: until the point where it feels like I'm being stalked, 341 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: where I'm having to watch my back. And I was like, guys, 342 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: this year way of telling me, like I need to 343 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: be more aware of my surroundings, because when I woke up, 344 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: it was just like a like what is happening? 345 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: And why did I dream that? Why could I let 346 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: my neighbor know what was going on? 347 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: And you see even the fact that you're asking why 348 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: the moment you're curious about, wait, what is going on? 349 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: You know that God is say You're in the message. 350 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: So even in the dream, right, so you talk about 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: you were leaving an event, someone was following you. Then 352 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: when you get you get home, someone is letting you know, 353 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: opening the door for the people to rob your neighbors. 354 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: You couldn't send a message someone else is right there. 355 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: And so that dream has there's several like layers to it. 356 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: Right. 357 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: So oftentimes even when you see a person following you, 358 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: one of the things that God is also revealing when 359 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: and it's not someone that you did you see their face? 360 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it was a girl, Yeah that I knew she 361 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: liked me. It was weird, like and I'm like, I 362 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: don't get down like that. 363 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a weird thing. 364 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: But she was like and every time I looked like 365 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I went through a toll and there's no toes in Atlanta, 366 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: and we went through this toe and I'm like, gow, 367 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: she's still buying me. And by the time I got home, 368 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't alarmed or like nervous. 369 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: As she was there. It was just like you need 370 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: to go yeah. Yeah. 371 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: But it wasn't like why are you here? You know, 372 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: It was just like you need to go home. 373 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: So even in that right, so there, sometimes when you 375 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: see somebody following you, the Lord could be warning you 376 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: about something that was called like a monitoring spirit. Right 377 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: when there are people that the enemy puts in your 378 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: life just to like watch and gain information and things 379 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: that they could use against you. But then in the 380 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 4: dream you see the person, you're not bothered by her, 381 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: you're just irritated by her. And then in your in 382 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: real life you have where people are doing the most. 383 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: Right. 384 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: So there's one hand of the Lord like even when 385 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: you do see it like there because there was a 386 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: part of you that felt helpless. 387 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: When you couldn't. 388 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: You're trying to text, but you couldn't, and so there 389 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: could be a connection there outside of your neighbor, that's 390 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 4: a whole other symbol, but there could be a connection 391 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: there where when you're seeing something that is a problem 392 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 4: and being helpless is not that you don't know how 393 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: to help your neighbor. 394 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: It could be that there are. 395 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: Things even within yourself where you are not being confrontational, 396 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: where you're not you're just like you, you know how, 397 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: sometimes you're really nice and you get. 398 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: Passive and you just allow things to be. 399 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: But even in the midst of that, God is still 400 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: sending someone who is like, hey, now get this message 401 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: out to somebody else, right, So there is an internal 402 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 4: thing that God is showing you about yourself, right because 403 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: you're trying to send a message, so you have an 404 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: intention to do something, but your fingers ain't working, they're 405 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: like so you're not one with yourself. 406 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: So your intention and your action is not matching. 407 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: Right, And it's not that somebody was scaring you or 408 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: you're feeling threatened. It's just that God is showing you 409 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: there's intention and there is action, and they're not going 410 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 4: hand in hand. So you have intentions to do things, 411 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: but you're not taking action towards it. So there's one 412 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: there's one thing that God is showing you there. The 413 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: other part is he's so merciful he will send your help. Now, 414 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: recognize the help, right, because there are stages in your 415 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: life where this is an era you have to grow in. 416 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: But recognize the help and also utilize the help right. 417 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: And then then in general be in prayer, you know, 418 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: pray concerning Lord anyone, and because sometimes it's not even 419 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: about people that just want to be stalkers. 420 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: There's a spirit in them. 421 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: So the beautiful thing is you're not scared, and you 422 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: were not scared in the dream, which also shows you 423 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: they can't harm you. 424 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I was not scared. 425 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: Exactly. They can't harm you. 426 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: But there's so many layers to that dream of messages 427 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: that God is getting. 428 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: To Yeah, that's so crazy. 429 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, because I actually talked to you more about that. 430 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what this means. And 431 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: and and being in prayer as well, because sometimes even 432 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: concerning God gives you, there is every individual right comes 433 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: into this world. 434 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: With uh, you know, there's a there's a domain, there's 435 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: a territory that God gives you to be a steward over. 436 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: It's not just your life, it's not just your family. 437 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's where you live, in the season you're in. 438 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: And so even where you presently live, even in your neighborhood, 439 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: being in prayer concerning your neighbors, concerning the area that Lord, 440 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: whatever evil is being planned, you know, speaking against it, right, 441 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: because when you start exercising, because there are things that 442 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: when God wants to expand your territory, not just influence 443 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: in regards to like fame, but influence in regards to authority. 444 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: When God wants to expand that, he starts by giving 445 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: you almost like how do I even put this? He 446 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: trains you with your current surrounding, right, so when you 447 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: know how to pray for your like immediate territory where 448 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: my house is, right, where I live, my neighbors. When 449 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: I can pray outside of me and the Lord starts 450 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: giving showing me things connected to people outside of me, 451 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, because it's one thing when 452 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: you have influence that just comes from the world, like 453 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: when people just like you and people, those are things 454 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: that they can also take from you. When God gives 455 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: it to you, nobody can take yes. And so when 456 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 4: God wants to give you authority, he starts by showing 457 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: you how to be a person of prayer. And it 458 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: could start small, it could start with your family, it 459 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: could start with different things. And when you are a 460 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: good steward over that, then he starts to expand you. 461 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: So now not only are you having influence in places, 462 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: but you have authority in those spaces. 463 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: And so when you. 464 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: Start exercising it, so outside of what God could be 465 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: speaking to you personally, because one of the ways God 466 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: works is in and through. So even when he gives 467 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: you a message, there's a message that's for you and 468 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: there's a message through you. So there's something he's showing 469 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: you concerning yourself, and there's also something he's showing you 470 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: concerning what you ought to do concerning others. Yeah, right, 471 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: So I would encourage you to start praying for your environment, 472 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: pray for your neighbor, even focus on that neighbor and 473 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: start praying concerning protection and the covering over them. Because 474 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: when God sees that, God begins to expand you. And 475 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: that's when you walk into rooms. You may not own 476 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 4: you know what's happening in the room, but your voice 477 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: will control what happens in the room. Right. 478 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: It gives you a thorty. 479 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good. 480 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Wow, we got to talk more. That's all right. But 481 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. 482 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: You shared five facts about dreams, and one of them 483 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: being that a dream can come from self, God, or 484 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: savany How do you distinguish between the three? 485 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: Ooh, Chad, let's perfect example. As women. 486 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: Like when it comes to marriage, I'll use that as 487 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: a perfect example. So, for instance, if there's someone a 488 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 4: woman is attracted to, right, especially unfortunately Christanity, you know 489 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: if there's someone she's attracted to, because you're already meditating 490 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: on that person. 491 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: You think about the person, you're like, oh my god, 492 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: this is someone I would like to marry, and X, 493 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: Y and Z. 494 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: You can start dreaming about the person, right because you're 495 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: already it's it's what your mind is already set on. 496 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: And so when and this is how you know that 497 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: theseel dreams that come from you because the fruit of 498 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: it again speaks. So when you have a dream about 499 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: a person and you're like, man, I think that man 500 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: is my husband, how does it come from self? 501 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: You become a stalker. 502 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: You start going on their Instagram, you have a fake page, 503 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 4: checking their stories. 504 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: Of you, start stalking you that already that came from you, 505 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: that care that is not from God's. 506 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: Not Because here's the thing and this I'm using that 507 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 4: as a perfect example. Because God will never give you 508 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: a dream that will validate an idol. You will never 509 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: give you a dream that will cause you to worship 510 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: something right. 511 00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: He will. 512 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: He will never give you a message in general. So 513 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: if God knows that you are not in a place 514 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: to handle those words. 515 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: He will not show it to you. That So when 516 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: people have a dream and the moment. 517 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: They say, oh man, they told me I had a dream, 518 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: God show me my husband. 519 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: My first question, what did you do? If they tell me? 520 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: Social media said girl, that is. 521 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: And then you start trying to create ways to hang 522 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: out that is not. 523 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: You get easily like your emotions easily overtake you right 524 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: where if he starts telling you about some girl and 525 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: you start crying, But. 526 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: God, you show me, nah, it ain't at all, you know. 527 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: And because emotions have a voice, emotions can. 528 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: Engage with you. 529 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: They can speak to you, and they're very close to 530 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: mimicking the voice of God. So you can wake up 531 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: from that kind of dream and your emotions are telling you, oh, man, 532 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: God is confirmed, this is your husband. Throw it away 533 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 4: when it's God it because Jesus is the word. So 534 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: when he gives you a word, however he gives it 535 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: to you, whether it's in a dream with symbols, when 536 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: you can interpret the word, it also comes with his nature, 537 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 4: so it sows a seed of himself in you. So 538 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: when the Lord gives you a word about your husband, 539 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: you're not You're chill like okay in your time. You 540 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: know you don't you? 541 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: And that's why we have to be honest with ourselves. 542 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: We have to be self aware when we don't get manipulated, 543 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: when we're just like allowing things to. 544 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: Be what they are. 545 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: You know, God, place, there is a confidence you have 546 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: about just like you know your name, there's a confidence 547 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: you have that this will be. Now when it comes 548 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: from the enemy, you have to look at the nature 549 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 4: of saying. You know, the Bible says he comes to steal, kill, 550 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: and destroy, and so if it's gonna if it thinks that. 551 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: For example, a woman has a dream about, you know, 552 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: a guy. She finds out he's in a relationship and 553 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: she's like, you know what, I'm just gonna wait and 554 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm just now she's doing all the things that are wrong, 555 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: she's stalking, she's doing but on top of that, she 556 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: feels this and she's waiting from a place of fear, 557 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 4: like she's it's this place of like you know what, 558 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: you start moving in anxiety and fear and panic, like 559 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm just gonna gonna believe God. But 560 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: you're praying, you're doing the spiritual things. But what's your 561 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: motive is fear. What's your motive is anxiety? Because what 562 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: the enemy is after to steal your time. Yes, so 563 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: you have someone the guy clearly tells you I only 564 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: see us as friends, and you're like, I'm just gonna 565 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: wait for him. 566 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: I know God is gonna change his mind. I know this. 567 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: The enemy is talking to you because he wants to 568 00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: steal your time. He wants to literally steal the years 569 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: of your prime waiting for a. 570 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: Man that's not coming. 571 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that even and to some women it even 572 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: goes to the extreme that he could be engaged and 573 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: you're still there, like, God, if this is you, I 574 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: know it's gonna it's not your They're not gonna make 575 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: it to the altar. I've seen this happen time and time, 576 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: and I'm like, the enemy is stealing your time. So 577 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 4: the nature of the enemy still kill destroyed. So when 578 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: it comes, when, when the when your actions are moved 579 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: by things that is gonna take rob you of time, 580 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: rob you of healthy relationships. 581 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Right when all of a sudden, maybe you. 582 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: Talk to a girlfriend of yours that you know, it's 583 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: someone who gives you sound wisdom, and the person is like, Hey, 584 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: I don't think this is gonna work. 585 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: I think you should move on. When a voice comes 586 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: to your mind and says. 587 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, she's jealous of you, she doesn't want, 588 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: she doesn't understand. She's just stops talking to her, And 589 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: now you start looking at her in a manner that 590 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: is suspicious. 591 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: What is he doing? He's trying to caut off lifelines. 592 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: From So his nature is in your actions. When you 593 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: see you, you are acting out of what is the 594 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: nature and the goal of the enemy. It came from him. 595 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: And here is the tricky part, because it's an idol 596 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 4: in your heart, it's you. Unless you are truly someone 597 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: who are You're willing to say, God, I really want 598 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: what you're about for me, then you will be able 599 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: to recognize the enemy when he comes. Because it's just like, 600 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 4: why are so many people deceived today? Because it speaks 601 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: to what they desire? 602 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: Yes? 603 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 4: Yes, Why do people go to psychics and on Saturday 604 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: go to church on Sunday because they're so hungry for like, 605 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: just hopefully the psychic will tell me if I'm going 606 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: to get the job or not. 607 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 3: I just need a quick answer. 608 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: And so you convince yourself this is going to work 609 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: for me because it's connected. 610 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: To what you desire. 611 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: The same reason why a person will go to a 612 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: church with a false teacher or a false prophetor whatever. 613 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: Why because you're speaking to something you want. Yes, and 614 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: so you're like, yes, preach, yes, all he said is 615 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: that your man is coming. 616 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: And come on, yeah. Wow. 617 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: So when you talk about being able to interpret genes 618 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: and then we have fortune telling. You just talk about 619 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: how people go to the fortune teller on Saturdays in 620 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: church on Sundays, how do you know, just for people who. 621 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: May not. 622 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: Understand, like, how do you know when it's witchcraft and 623 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: when it's of God? Because you have prophecy, but then 624 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: you also have fortune telling, which sometimes it can be 625 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a very blurred line between those two. 626 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: I think what people even one of the things that 627 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: people have to grow and understanding is there is a 628 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: spiritual realm that is real. Just as this physical realm 629 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: is real, there's a spiritual realm that is so. 630 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: Real, and they're in that realm. 631 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: There is I remember a lot of how God has 632 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: really like was through teaching me the supernatural. But there 633 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: is a realm known as just the realm of knowledge, 634 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: the realm of information. Everything that has been and everything 635 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: that is is known. That's why even in the Bible, Satan, 636 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: when you know, Satan comes to God and the Lord 637 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: is like, hey. 638 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: Where have you been? He's like, you know? And then 639 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: the Lord says, have you considered my servant job? 640 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: He knew who Joe was, he knew where Joe lived, 641 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: he knew how many kids Joe had, He knew about 642 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: his wife, He knew Joe's entire life. This was because 643 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: it's information that exists. The difference now you have God 644 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: who is all knowing, and he's all knowing, not just 645 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: because of the past and the present. It's all knowing 646 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 4: because he's also in the future. That's what separates him 647 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: from everything he is. Everything is in him past present, 648 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: future Satan. Rather now Satan is limited because he knows 649 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: past present and he has a whole you know. 650 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: Or chart in this company right right. 651 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: And so their demons we have the Holy Spirit. They're 652 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: evil spirits that also work with people. So the fortune teller, 653 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: they're not always lying. They could tell you your name 654 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: because it's known. They could tell your address, it's no. 655 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: They could tell you what your grandmother wore when she 656 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: passed because it's known information. 657 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: Everything that was and is is known, and. 658 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: That's where so now. But the end goal is that 659 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: they use that to grip you. 660 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, your sister. 661 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: Is this, But then it goes from there to gain 662 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: access to your trust, for you to open up because 663 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: in the spiritual realm, where there is agreement, there is access. 664 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: So then if they now tell you, oh, you're gonna 665 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: get married in three years, and you're like, oh my gosh, yes, 666 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: and then you're gonna get divorced and the next one 667 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 4: will come. 668 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: You're in agreement with everything, and what you don't realize 669 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: is that they're cursing you. They're cursing that marriage. 670 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: So they're saying, yes, they don't even know when you're 671 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: gonna get married, but they're sending a curse to whatever 672 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: whenever you get married, right and now. And then sometimes 673 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: even when they say something like you're going to get married, 674 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 4: the enemy knows how the send counterfeits to back up 675 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: what he's saying. Right, but how do you know the difference? 676 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: Number One, the Bible says there is no other way 677 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: than through Jesus. Jesus is the way, the truth, and 678 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 4: the life. 679 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: And so that's one layer. 680 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: If the person and if you're if you're involved in 681 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 4: something that they are not in submission and surrendered to Jesus. 682 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 3: They're surrendered to another spirit. 683 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: And just because they have information about you does. 684 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Not mean that it's holy right. 685 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: But then there's another layer because they're also The Bible 686 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: also warns us a false prophet, So there are many 687 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: people that could masquerade using the name of Jesus, but 688 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: they are not of him. That's why Jesus would even say, like, 689 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: in the last days, you know, there will be many 690 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: who will come to me and say Lord, Lord, Lord, 691 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: and he will say, get away from me. 692 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: I never knew you. 693 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: And then he calls them workers of iniquity, and so 694 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 4: he's like, this was never about me. You are giving 695 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: over to the enemy a long time ago, right. And 696 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 4: so the other layer is why people have to have 697 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: a personal relationship with God for themselves because one of 698 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: the things that God uses to mark his own it's 699 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: not the knowledge that they flow in, it's not they 700 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: move in power, is. 701 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: That you would know them by their fruits. 702 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: If their lifestyle does not match the fruits of the 703 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 4: Holy Spirit, it's not the Holy Spirit. 704 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: Yes, no matter if they say Jesus, no matter if. 705 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: They have a church, no matter if they were across 706 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: if you're life, because the Holy Spirit. And why he's 707 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: so strong on that, because for someone to take on 708 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: a position as a pastor or a leader in any capacity, 709 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 4: that means you have walked with God in such a 710 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: way that the Holy Spirit is evident through. 711 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 3: Your life before you can lead people. 712 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 4: Yes, and so it's not a place where you can 713 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: make an excuse. 714 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: No, then don't be a leader. 715 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: Still if you're still in a place where that area 716 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: God has not worked on it, sit down, don't lead 717 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: people into your mess. 718 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: Right. 719 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: And so when he says you will know them by 720 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: their fruits, because to recognize them in any capacity of leadership, 721 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: then there is a walk they have done in a 722 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 4: secret place with God that you can see the fragrance. 723 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: You can smell the fragrance of the Holy Spirit on them, 724 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: you can pay, you can notice it in humility and 725 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: patience in different areas of their lives. So one layer 726 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: is first of all, are they serving Jesus? But secondly, 727 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: so you. 728 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: Don't get deceived. Do they remind you when. 729 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: You're around them? Do you feel like you want to 730 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 4: get closer to God or them? 731 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: Yes? Wow, that's good. That is so good. 732 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Siphanie, you are just amazing. So I want to 733 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: talk to you about something. Yes, I'm forty one, I 734 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: am Well, you know, we feel like it's okay, I'm 735 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: ready for love. We feel like we are, but sometimes 736 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: God is like you think you're ready, but you're not ready. 737 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: And you did a four part series on YouTube to 738 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: call what is marriage? 739 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 3: So I want to talk about this because. 740 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: You said five rolls of a godly husband are a leader, 741 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: a learner, a loyal partner, a provider, and a protector. 742 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 743 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm at an age where i feel 744 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: like I'm ready for love. I'm ready to share my 745 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: life with someone. It gets lonely, you know, and I'll meet. 746 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: People and I'm like, oh, like. 747 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: Oh, this is the one that's me. 748 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: So I want to know, as just from woman too, 749 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: what do you feel like? God will let me know 750 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: when it's time. And because I've met people, I've met 751 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: men that are lovers of Jesus. I've met men that 752 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: were raising the church. We may have kind of fallen astray, 753 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: but still go every now and then I'll come with 754 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: you. You know, that's what you want to do type of thing. 755 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: But I know at the age I am now where 756 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: I am my walk, I want someone that can lead me. 757 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, and I'm not the one always dragging 758 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: them to God. Want less you get our Bible or 759 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: let's go to church on Sunday? What do you think 760 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: about the sermon? How can we apply this to the week. 761 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm really big on that and just trying to find 762 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: the right person and knowing that it is from God. 763 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, one of the things I'll say is 764 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: definitely like people say, trust God, trusts God. But to 765 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: give context to it, trust God as the father who 766 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: gives away his bride. And what I mean by that is, 767 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: you know, in the natural, on the wedding day, you 768 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 4: have your natural father or whoever could stand in who 769 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 4: walks you down the aisle and gives you away to 770 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: your husband. But that's a husband that is known right 771 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 4: when he's unknown, the heavenly Father. If you trust him, 772 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: if you first of all, if you position yourself in 773 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: a place where God, I'm not willing to settle just 774 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 4: to have somebody. 775 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: Right. 776 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 4: Yes, there is a call you have on my life. 777 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,959 Speaker 4: There's a call on who the person that you see. 778 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 4: There's something you have in mind concern in my marriage 779 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: because in the series I talk about how marriage is 780 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: God's idea. It's his first institution, right because there is 781 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: a purpose even concerning the home. And so when you 782 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: have a desire to, you know, receive what God designed. God, 783 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: I want a man who knows you. I want a 784 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: man who can lead this home. I'm also willing to 785 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 4: be submissive, you know, on understanding even what that means and. 786 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: All of that. 787 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 4: But it's to say, God, whenever you truly believe it's 788 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: the right time, lead me to him, present me, to 789 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 4: let him see me and know, because what happened with 790 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 4: Adam and Eve is still the pattern of God if 791 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: we are willing. 792 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: And so with Adam and Eve. 793 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: You see where Adam is asleep, you know the whole 794 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 4: thing he takes out, you know, his rib. 795 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: But it's not just what happens when he's asleep. He 796 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 3: wakes up. 797 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 4: God did not just put Eve in the garden randomly 798 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 4: by a tree. Adam is just gonna walk by and say, 799 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 4: I ain't seen you around here, right, his pride, he 800 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: presents Eve the Bible that just said he brought. 801 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: Eve to Adam. 802 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when he looked, he's like, oh wow, 803 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 4: this is bone of my bone, flushing my fledge. Da 804 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 4: da da da da. The same way you have then 805 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: you fast forward. You have the story with Abraham when 806 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 4: Abraham wanted his son to get married. Yeah, he tells 807 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: his servant, He's like, look, go to my hometown and 808 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: get my son a wife. 809 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: Right. 810 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, The servant is like, you know, Lord, you show 811 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: her on all this stuff. When the servant goes, it's 812 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 4: about if you involve God, the servant could have just 813 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: gone and whichever woman he saw, he's like, okay, let 814 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 4: me just see if this woman will work. 815 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 3: He says. 816 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 4: He's like, Lord, if you have truly prospered my way, 817 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 4: right then literally like revealed to me who is gonna 818 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 4: be the wife? You know, And then he gives and 819 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 4: there's a wisdom that comes upon him and then he 820 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 4: talks about he was like, let it be that the 821 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: one who is willing to give me water and also 822 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 4: offer water to his donkeys be the one God. 823 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: Back to them. 824 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 4: So then you know, Rachel comes, he sees her and 825 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: he's like, wow, she's beautiful. He asks for water and 826 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: she's like, oh, let me also wall of your donkeys. 827 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: He's the one. 828 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 4: But that was not a random and I know, like 829 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: you know, as you know for in churches, you would 830 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 4: hear it taught in so many beautiful ways, like oh, 831 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 4: she was selfless, she was this, which that shows that 832 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: she was selfless, but that also shows you there was 833 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 4: a spiritual influence in that moment. There was something that 834 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 4: influenced him to even think that. And there was something 835 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 4: that made her even aware because God is like, no, 836 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: this is the one and so, and literally presents. 837 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: Her before the servant. He sees her like just orchestrates 838 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 3: her to come to the world. At that time, he 839 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: orders her steps. 840 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 4: Everything works out, and I will give you my personal 841 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: example even for me. I remember when I was a pastor, 842 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 4: and you know, I was spending a lot of time 843 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 4: in the church, right, But because as a pastor, I 844 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: didn't want to be corrupted in my heart when I'm 845 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 4: meeting people because we're a young church. There's a lot 846 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: of good looking men there, right, And so I made 847 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: a covenant with God. I was like, God, I'm not 848 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 4: going to date anybody in the church, and I'm not 849 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 4: doing that to protect my heart. 850 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 3: I don't want to be praying for somebody. 851 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: And be asking if this is at the same time like, 852 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I would love to have a pastoral counseling 853 00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 4: meeting with you over right on dinner that's when you 854 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: sit and talk, right, it would be a mess. And 855 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 4: I remember, like my mom was just like where are 856 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: you gonna meet, you know, meet to But I was like, God, 857 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 4: if you are my father, you would figure it out, come, 858 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 4: make it happen. 859 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: And when you know it's true, you just know. And 860 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: so how I met my husband. 861 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 4: It was a baby shower and the bait It was 862 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: during COVID, so the people nobody was gonna come because 863 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 4: it was COVID, and so I remember the lady had 864 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 4: hit me up and she was like, hey, no one 865 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 4: is coming, if you could come and even bring a friend, 866 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 4: And then I brought one of my besties, Brenda. 867 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: I said, girl, what you do right? 868 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: And so we both go to the baby shower and 869 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 4: he was the only one that came from the guy side, 870 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: and I remember the moment he opened his mouth. Brenda 871 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 4: looked at me and she was like, oh, listen, it's 872 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: a rap? Was he just like it was like his 873 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 4: language just and one of the things that he said. 874 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 4: So literally the day before we I was talking with 875 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 4: Brenda and we were like, we're talking about I was 876 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 4: just sharing about my frustration and dating and it was 877 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 4: literally this guy who I was talking to and he 878 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 4: told me, he was like, I'm intimidated by you. I'm 879 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 4: a kid, how are you intimidating me? And so we 880 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: were just talking about that. So then there was a 881 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: part and cause it was a it was a baby 882 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 4: shower on the boat. So I'm sitting on this side 883 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 4: of the boat and he comes and he says, do 884 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 4: men tell you No? Do do people normally tell you 885 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 4: they're intimidated by you? I was like, I said, oh yes. 886 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 4: He said, oh, so you've been talking to boys. 887 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 6: I said a poet, yes, boys. 888 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: In my mind, I. 889 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: Was it was around at that moment. It was around 890 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: like yes, I that I love it. 891 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 892 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 4: But it was just like who he is was literally 893 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: like God packaged him for me. 894 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 3: That's lit I can. 895 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 4: And it was so interesting because I remember years prior, 896 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 4: I'll be praying. I'm like, God, when is my husband coming? 897 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: He didn't even talk to me about that. 898 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: The Lord literally told me he said, you're going to 899 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 3: be a mother at thirty two. Wow. 900 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm asking you about my husband, not 901 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: when I'm going to be And this was in my twenties. 902 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 3: Wow, So mid twenties. 903 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 4: The Lord is saying I'm going to be a mom 904 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 4: in thirty at thirty. 905 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 3: Two, I'm like that that's some years. Lord. 906 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: So then in my mom I'm like, well, if I'm 907 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 4: going to be a mom at thirty. 908 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 3: Two, I have to be married before. But literally I 909 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: became a mom at thirty two. 910 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 4: And I remember when the Lord told me that my mom. 911 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 4: I told my mom. I was like, Mom, I don't 912 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: know when I'm gonna get married, but this is what 913 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 4: God told me that by thirty two I'll be a mom. 914 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 4: So that union is so symbolic to the family we're 915 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 4: supposed to raise. 916 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: So God has already gone ahead of me. 917 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm already taking care of your marriage, and 918 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm now talking to you about your children. 919 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: Right. Wow. 920 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 4: And so when you trust your heavenly Father to present 921 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 4: you and to open the eyes of the one who 922 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 4: is for you, that he will present you in such 923 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 4: a way that you would be seen by the right one. Yes, 924 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 4: And why that is important is we have to be 925 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 4: okay with rejection, because rejection is literally God saying I'm 926 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 4: not opening the eyes of the wrong people. I'm not 927 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 4: gonna let the wrong person see you. And so when 928 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 4: a person that you like that it just doesn't work out, that's. 929 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 3: God shutting the eyes of the wrong ones. 930 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 4: That if you're a counterfeit, I am going to shut 931 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 4: your eyes that even though this person is I mean 932 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 4: a catch of the catch. 933 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: You're not gonna see it. 934 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 4: You're gonna see the things that you're like, I don't 935 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 4: think I can do it. You're gonna see that the 936 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 4: fact that, oh she's a pastor, I'm intimidated by that. 937 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 4: Oh she's doing I'm intimidated by that. But when it's 938 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 4: the right one, God says, I will open your eyes, 939 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 4: they will see you, they will know you, and they 940 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 4: will recognize you as Oh you belong to me, your 941 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 4: mind like we belong together. Right, And so I would say, 942 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 4: trust God. Keep your standards biblical. There's there's cultural standards, 943 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 4: you know, but keep make sure that the things that 944 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 4: are non negotiable are the things that reflect the heart 945 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 4: of God. 946 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 3: The cultural standards be flexible. 947 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 4: You know, he may not be five to seven, I 948 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 4: mean six seven. Hold up, now, all heights matter. All 949 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 4: heights matter. But I'm just saying I'm tall, but that 950 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: just hit. But he could be five seven child, All 951 00:45:51,080 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: heights matter. Okay for you if you. 952 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 3: Are five to receive your blessed. 953 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: Listen, but you you keep your my th biggest and 954 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 4: keep your standards biblic Yeah, those are non negotiable. The 955 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 4: cultural things be really flexible on you. The things that 956 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: are like defined by culture. You know, how who he 957 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 4: has to be, how tall, what field? 958 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: Because you're you're. 959 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 4: Functioning on limited knowledge of yourself. God knows you from 960 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 4: an eternal perspective. You know this version of you, but 961 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 4: you don't know the you that God is going to say, Hey, 962 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 4: you're going to open a studio one day, and I 963 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 4: need you to be the business man. 964 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 3: I hope you just I've been thinking about it. 965 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: Yes, there are things that God sees about you that 966 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 4: he knows the kind of man he's connecting you to, 967 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 4: not because of your now, but because of the totality 968 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 4: of who He's called you to be. 969 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 2: So sad, where have you been all my life? 970 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 3: Right here, girl, I'm trying to tell you, thank you 971 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: so much. Thank you. 972 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 973 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. 974 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: To close out the show, we do what is called 975 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: positive outcomes, and I'd love for you to hang around 976 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: so you can give our listeners some advice. 977 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 3: I love it all right. So this one says Hi, Crystal. 978 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: I am forty four year old woman and over the 979 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: years I have said that I did not want to 980 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 1: get married. I thought I always wanted to be a mom, 981 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: but not a wife. I now know that I was 982 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: saying that out of fear and want to refocus my prayers. 983 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that God understood that it was actually 984 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: fear and not my true desire. I worried that because 985 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: I rejected marriage for so long, that God will not 986 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: bless me with it. 987 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 3: That's so funny, she said. 988 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: Because I was having a conversation with this guy, a 989 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: potential and he's like, do you want to have children? 990 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: I was like, well, you know, I'm getting older. 991 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's in the cars me, so 992 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: like I'm just I'm okay if I don't. And he said, no, 993 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: give me the real Like, what do you really want? 994 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: He said, don't give me that surface leveled answer. And 995 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us, as women, we do 996 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 1: out of fear because we don't want to get hurt 997 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: or rejected. Me say, well, I just want this, I 998 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: don't want the full thing. 999 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: What would be your advice to her? 1000 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the beauty is that he's God, and God doesn't 1001 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 4: just see what we are. He's not just looking at 1002 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 4: what we're saying, and he's looking at where it's coming from. 1003 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 4: He sees the fear, he sees the you know, the uncertainties, 1004 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 4: he sees the ignorance, he sees the trauma that causes 1005 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 4: us to come in agreement with these things. And he's 1006 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 4: so kind, he's so loving, he's so merciful that he's 1007 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 4: just waiting for you. He's right there. He's like, I'm 1008 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 4: just waiting for you. Whenever you're ready, I have this 1009 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 4: for you. It's available, it's right here. And we have 1010 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 4: to be patient with ourselves. You know, when the Bible 1011 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 4: talks about God is love. And the first thing when 1012 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 4: you know in First Corinthians and it describes love, the 1013 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 4: first attribute is love is patient. 1014 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 3: God is extremely patient. 1015 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 4: With us because the truth is even though we're grown, 1016 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 4: like in our eyes, we'll like we're grown, right, But 1017 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 4: when you think of a baby, you know, I have 1018 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: a nine month old daughter now she's gonna be ten 1019 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 4: months soon. And when I look at her, when she's 1020 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 4: doing things that are like mistakes, Yeah, she. 1021 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: Doesn't know that. 1022 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 4: I know that, but I recognize she's a baby. You're 1023 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 4: a baby, and you're gonna get older and you're gonna 1024 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 4: learn and you're gonna know that. This is why, like 1025 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 4: when I'm taking you from this and you're crying, you're 1026 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 4: gonna understand it. When God looks at us when we're 1027 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 4: functioning from pain, ignorance, her He's like. 1028 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 3: Oh, you're a baby, and it's okay. 1029 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold you and whenever as you get older 1030 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 4: and not as you get older in knowledge, because in 1031 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 4: the natural realm, we get older through time and the 1032 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 4: realm that God is in, He's there's time is. 1033 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 3: Not a thing. 1034 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 4: How they look at us from an age perspective is 1035 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 4: by revelation, by wisdom. When we grow in our knowledge 1036 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: of God, that's out. That's what he sees us maturity. 1037 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 4: So when you're functioning from a place of like, God, 1038 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,959 Speaker 4: I don't want this because I was hurt, he said, 1039 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 4: it's okay, you're a baby, and that's all right, and 1040 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna send people in your life that would reveal 1041 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 4: my love. I'm gonna send wisdom to you. I'm going 1042 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 4: to send help to you, even for some even in 1043 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 4: the form of therapy. That's God's showing you, like, hey, 1044 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 4: you need to be aware of what is trapped in 1045 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 4: that true right and as. 1046 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: You heal, He's like, okay, cool, that's the business. 1047 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 4: I got some kids for you girls, right. 1048 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 3: He's not holding that against anyway. I love it. 1049 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. 1050 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: So we like to ask our guests what I'm going 1051 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: through and what I'm growing through. Is there anything that 1052 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 1: you're going through or growing through? 1053 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. 1054 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 4: I think for me, it's really the season of fully embracing. 1055 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 4: It's so interesting because even though people will not understand 1056 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 4: you when I say this fully, but for a long 1057 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 4: time I've been hidden even though it doesn't look like 1058 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 4: but hidden in the sense of knowing what God has 1059 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 4: called me to do there, but it was there was 1060 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 4: things that He was kind of like nurturing and just 1061 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: protecting even though it feels like I've been in a 1062 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 4: public eye space or whatever. But fully embracing, you know 1063 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 4: who God is calling me to be in the now 1064 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 4: and knowing that it's going to stretch me in so 1065 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 4: many ways. And I think that working through that working 1066 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 4: through because there's different levels of people pleasing, right, I 1067 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 4: think we conquer it on different levels. I don't think 1068 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 4: we just won and done, like I am not a 1069 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: people pleaser. I think there's different stages of life and 1070 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 4: I have been in. There's a stage where I was 1071 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 4: that I didn't really care about what people think. But 1072 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 4: when you're about to come into a new venture and 1073 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 4: you know, come, we've come, you know, show yourself in 1074 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 4: a new way, there's this sense of like, our people 1075 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 4: loyal to you because of what they've known, you know, 1076 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 4: are people connected to you because of what you you know, 1077 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 4: the expectations you. 1078 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 3: Meet in their lives? 1079 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 4: Right, But when you start saying some things that they 1080 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 4: don't like, you know, what's. 1081 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 3: That going to look like? 1082 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 4: But it's to conquer that on a new level for me, 1083 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: like you know what God is, me and you and 1084 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 4: whoever you've connected to me in that season. 1085 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 3: That's all right. I love that. I love that. 1086 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: To close, we feel in the blank, keep it blank, sweetie. 1087 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take something that you taught me today. 1088 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: Keep your foundation or keep your standards spiritual? He said, 1089 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: you need to have your spiritual standard. 1090 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: It's not worldly standards. 1091 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, keep your standards spiritual, sweetie. 1092 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 2: I love that. 1093 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 3: I love that. 1094 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 2: What would you do? 1095 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 3: I would say keep it off. 1096 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 6: What I want to say, you can say. 1097 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 4: Because what I'm thinking of right now is ice s cream, 1098 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 4: But that is not That's what I'm getting answered. 1099 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 2: There's a Geni's down the street and what's on like 1100 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: that's fiance. 1101 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 3: But let me be serious, I would say keep it honest. 1102 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 1103 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: Stephanie. 1104 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you, guys, Thank 1105 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: you so much for tune into this episode of Keep 1106 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: It Positive. 1107 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 2: Sweetie. 1108 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: If you want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter, 1109 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: you can write into Keep It Positive sweety at gmail 1110 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: dot com and at sweetye with an Ie. You can 1111 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: follow me on all platforms at Love Chris Raine and 1112 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: that's l u V. 1113 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 3: Stephanie. 1114 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 2: Tell the people whe they can find you. 1115 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 4: You could Instagram Stephani Actually everything Stephanie ek okafor. 1116 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: And yeah awesome. 1117 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, And guys, make sure you get 1118 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: her new book, The Power of Your Dreams, A Guide 1119 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: to hearing and understanding how God. 1120 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 2: Speaks while you sleep available now. 1121 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for tune into this episode. 1122 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: In the meantime in between time, you know what to do. 1123 00:53:51,640 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: Keep it positive, Sweetie. 1124 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 3: Lord, thank you for this day, God, and thank you 1125 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 3: for uh this conversation. Man. 1126 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 5: God, you already know you saw this moment before the 1127 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 5: beginning of time, and so we just asked that their 1128 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 5: words and their UH conversation. 1129 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 4: Would align with what it is that even God. 1130 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 5: I pray that people's lives would be transformed, impacted and changed. 1131 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 5: God no nerves for either either of them. God just 1132 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 5: giving the ability to flow in conversation. God, you need it, 1133 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 5: you got it. Thank you for every person in this 1134 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 5: room living their dis and talents. God, they will return 1135 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 5: to them one hundredfold. And we just blessed Crystal for 1136 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 5: the whole day. 1137 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: God, you give her supernatural strength. And Jesus, we pray 1138 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 3: a man