1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: This episode mentioned suicide. Please take care while listening. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Middletown have their skeleton. I mean they're not with that. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Greg Thompson is fifty three years old and has lived 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: within a forty five minute drive of Wagner, Oklahoma, his 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: entire life. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: Wagner is a small town. I don't even remember what 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: the population is here rad off In. I want to 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: say three to five thousand people or something, but that 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: could be totally out. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: I looked it up. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: It's about double that eight thousand. Still small, a place 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: where everyone kind of knows everyone and neighbors act neighborly. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: When Greg meets Tealina, she's a recent transplant to the area. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Outsiders don't normally take interest in what tier. With Tlena 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: not being from the area, that made her even more special. 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Greg became friends with Telina because he's 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: the guy you call when you've got odd jobs that 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: need doing. 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: She hired me for like candy man stuff like mowing 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: and weed eat and hanging TVs and just all kinds 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: there's handyman type stuff. 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: In early twenty twenty, before COVID shuts the world down, 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Teleina is on the hunt for the perfect mattress to 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: help her troubled sleep. This turns out to be a 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: tedious task for the fifty three year old who buys 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: and returns multiple mattresses in the process, but luckily she 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: has Greg to help her with the heavy lifting. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Telena wanted to change the mattress out in her bedroom, 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and she got a new mattress and needed somebody to 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: unpack it and put it on and then haul the 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: old and off. And so I did all that well. 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later she said that she didn't 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: care for the mattress, who wanted it return. She's got 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: another one, Kevin. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Finally, Teleina finds a mattress that checks all the boxes, 36 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: but now she has an extra mattress on her hands. 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Luckily she knows a family in need. 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: She was going to guess that bed to us. Our 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: son is like six foot one now, so like make 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 4: bed to word that for him. 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: This is aris house, another one of Tolena's local friends. 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: Aris had just closed on her very first house. Teleina 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: had guided her through the process emotionally and sometimes even financially. 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: In fact, the bed was just one of many things 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Teleina offered to help make Eris's new house a home. 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: She was a part of the reason why we were 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: able to. 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 5: Get utilities turned on new law, new light. She had 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: been saving up a Nashtag for I've ever since I 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: told her that we were starting a profit to buy 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: a house. I can't even put a name to all 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: the kitchen appliances and trinkets and items that she's put 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: in our house and added to our lives. 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: The way she did. 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: As COVID hits Oklahoma, Aris doesn't get to see her 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: friend very often. Tuleina has rheumatoid arthritis and other health 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: issues that make contracting the virus a real concern. 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: She was a you know, compromised, so she was taking 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: it very, very seriously. 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: But Tealina still wants to hand off the mattress as 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: she promised, and so on Friday, March twenty seventh, Tulina 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: texts Eiris to organize a pickup. 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: She was checking to see if we were coming to 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: get to bed this weekend. That next morning, the twenty eighth, 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: I got a message that said. 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 6: A bort mission. I've got a terrible migraine. I've been 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 6: staying in bed today. 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: I said, okay out. 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: A few days go by, having not heard from. Her 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: friend Aris checks in. 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: On a third and I said her that I hope 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: you're feeling Betters wanting you know, if I get dropped 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: by it. 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 7: Yes, I don't. 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 6: Want anybody coming to the porch and making the dogs 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 6: bark because I'm sleeping a lot. 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: I said, that's okay, maybe another time. 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: This is her last exchange with Telena before she goes 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: missing from iHeart Podcasts. I'm Melissa Jelson, and this is 80 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: what happened to Teleina's oar. 81 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 8: Hey everyone, I'm on day nine of this virus, and 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 8: I am pretty sure it has reached my lungs. 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 9: For her to just leave people with no way of 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 9: contacting her and knowing if she was alive or. 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: Dead was strange to me. 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: There were a lot of secrets that were very hard 87 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: to find, and no one wanted to talk about anything. 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 10: I'm a really nosy person, so that's how I got 89 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 10: caught up in all this. 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: I was like, this is this is crazy. 91 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Episode two small town big Secrets. 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: She wanted to help anybody and anybody. 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: This is Greg, the local handyman in Wagner. 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: She helped us volunteer picking up trash a few times. 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: I'd heard of her giving food to people that needed 96 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: it or giving them little jobs to do. 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 11: Like me. 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: You know, she knew that I needed something to do, 99 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: so she'd give me jobs. And she had other people 100 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: that would you know, do little odd jobs for or 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: somebody he moved through the area from bigger towns and 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: just take in the interest in what's going on here 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: and trying to help people that live here that may 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: impression on me. 105 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: When Teleina moved to Wagner, Oklahoma, in late twenty sixteen, 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: she did it with her partner Tom. They left their 107 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: longtime home in Indianapolis and purchased a brown ranch house 108 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: in Whitehorn Cove, a lake community near the border of Arkansas. 109 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: From the outside, the home is rustic looking, cozy, private, 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: set back from the road and nestled among the tall trees. 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: It's not easy to move to a totally new place 112 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: when you're in your fifties and beyond. But the couple 113 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: had their reasons for choosing Wagner, of all places, one 114 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: being they had a group of friends who were already 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: established there, Like Aris Howe, she. 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 12: Could be exactly the person that she was here and 117 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 12: that was a little weird, a lot filly a little 118 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 12: queer Oklahoma had all the people who brought out the 119 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 12: those aspects for her. 120 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: The two women were several decades apart, and ers looked 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: up to Telena like a big sister. 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: She always left you kind of enraptured by what she 123 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: was saying because she had a unique way of telling stories. 124 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: She had a very dry wit, and it. 125 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Helped that they shared the same offbeat sense of humor. 126 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Aris told me about one time Telena was giving her 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: some spices from her pantry that she no longer needed. 128 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 12: I grabbed a bottle of dill weed and I said, oh, 129 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 12: look at the bottom of my husband the dill weed. 130 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 12: And we laughed really hard about it, and then she 131 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 12: snatched the bottle away from me and a land of 132 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 12: the other round. 133 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: She had a label maker. She typed in that labels at. 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 13: The bottle of Jason and clapped it on the bottle 135 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 13: of dill weed and handed it back the look. 136 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: Of absolute joy and mischief in her faith. When she 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: handed me that bottle, it was like sharing the best secret, 138 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: and we both fell apart in laughter. 139 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: To her friends, to Lena was not only kind, generous, 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: and hilarious, she was also super smart, here's Greg again. 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: She was a self proclaimed computer I called her my 142 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: own little hacker. 143 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Talina was a techie and a good one. She worked 144 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: on Microsoft products, fixing code errors that no one else 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: could solve. 146 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: My wife was going to school at the time for 147 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: her bachelor's and didn't know anything about powerpart presentations and 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: Microsoft Office and all these things. In Tolena had worked 149 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: for Microsoft and she dropped some of these program so 150 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: she saw another opportunity to help my wife, and she 151 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: started helping her with these presentations and showed her how 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: to do it herself and things like that. She felt 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: like she could help you out of the hole you're in. 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: She was here, was all in. 155 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Telena was helpful to her community and also devoted to 156 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: her partner to The two had been together for more 157 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: than a decade. 158 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: They had one of those bonds that you know, everybody 159 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: could aspire to. 160 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: You could see you could just look at him in 161 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: a glance, the way they looked at each other. 162 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 14: They were young fool anytime they looked at each other. 163 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: But Teleina wasn't a homebody. She travels a lot for work, 164 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: often swinging through Indiana, where she and Tom used to live, 165 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: and some of her extended family remained, and then while 166 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: she was on one of those routine trips, the unthinkable happened. 167 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: They both went here and then like not even I 168 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: don't even think it was a year later. Tom had 169 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: a stroke while she was away on work, and when 170 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: she came back from work, you know, they had found 171 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: it on the floor. He was still alive. He had 172 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: hung on long enough for her to say goodbye. 173 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Tom was only fifty nine. In his obituary, he was 174 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: described as a twenty two year veteran of the army 175 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and an avid gun enthusiast. The family asked that in 176 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: lieu of flowers, well wishers could donate to his favorite charity, 177 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: for Love of Dogs. 178 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: I remember after Tom and path and we went over 179 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: to her house for the memorial. It was an intimate 180 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: gathering with probably about twenty of us, and we all 181 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: kind of said a word for Tom, and you could 182 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: see around the house where she left ticket that they 183 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: do not move, do not touch. The general assumption was 184 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: so I was was the left eye inst he had 185 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: cut and she wasn't ready for those to. 186 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,119 Speaker 1: Move Toalina was shattered by the loss. 187 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 14: They were deeply connected and while she was able to 188 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 14: regate her joy and find life again. 189 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't the same as she couldn't share it with him. 190 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Tom's death on moored Toelena, and for a long while 191 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: afterwards she battled with a stubborn depression. 192 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: And I actually spend a lot of phone calls together afterwards, 193 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: because whenever you spend an amount of your life with 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: somebody bouncing decisions off of them, or you know, looking 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: for validation for a decision, you get kind of lost. 196 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: And there were a lot of time where she would 197 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 4: call me and ask me, Hey, what do you think 198 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: about this? That happened a lot more after Tom had passed. 199 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 13: I had her come afterwards, and I was a little nervous. 200 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: This is Kim, a hairdresser and wagner who cut Telena's hair. 201 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: She remembered Telena's first appointment after Tom passed. 202 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 13: I had my mom, who is a widow as well, 203 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 13: come fit and be with us so that i'd have 204 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 13: like them backup in case it got to too sad. 205 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 13: I don't like to handle that stuff, and I'm not 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 13: good at saying. 207 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 7: The right word. 208 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: But we got through it. 209 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 13: There was just a few, you know, peers that were 210 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 13: shed Tolena. She had even asked if my mom would 211 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 13: maybe be her roommate for a while after, you know, 212 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 13: because my dad had passed and she was living alone too, 213 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 13: and she had been talking about finding a roommate to 214 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 13: share in the bills and stuff. 215 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Telena didn't like living alone in the house she'd shared 216 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: with Tom. Nicole, her friend in Tennessee, remembered how Telena 217 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: navigated her new role as a relatively young widow. 218 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 9: Of course, she missed him greatly and missed their life together. 219 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 9: She was dealing with it with grace and moving on 220 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 9: with her life the best she could. She had told 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 9: me that she had taken in a roommate and that 222 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 9: was mostly more for having someone around them necessity. 223 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: It was in twenty nineteen that Lena invited Corey Bamiley, 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: a fifty eight year old woman she knew through friends, 225 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: to move in with her. Corey was also in a 226 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: transitional period, in the middle of a divorce. I couldn't 227 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: get Corey to speak to me, but from what I've learned, 228 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: the two had a lot in common. They were both 229 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: adjusting to life without a partner. They were both enthusiastic 230 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: pet owners, sharing a singular love for animals, and they 231 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: both dabbled in pagan culture and attended local renaissance fairs 232 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: for fun. 233 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 13: After they had moved in together, every time I cut 234 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 13: Tolena's hair, the first thing I would say was, how 235 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 13: was how's your roommate going? 236 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 7: And she always answered the best I've ever had. 237 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: It didn't take long for Toleina and Corey's lives to 238 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: become intertwined. Soon enough, Corey was over at Kim's getting 239 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: her own haircut, while Teleina was adventurous with her hair, 240 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: dyeing at different colors and even giving a perm Corey 241 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: preferred a look some might call a mullet. 242 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 13: We'd go short on the you know, straight across prop 243 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 13: of the ears, and a little bit longer in the back. 244 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 13: It wasn't anything that I wanted to do to her, 245 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 13: but that's what she wanted. 246 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Corey quickly fell in with Teleina's social circle too. Here's 247 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: Greg again. 248 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: We'd had Telena and Corey over for dinner, and a 249 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: couple of times went out with him. You would have 250 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: thought they were best friends. Had had noting Cheddar for 251 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: a long time. 252 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Greg found a kindred spirit in Corey. She too was 253 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: a handyman of sorts, strong, industrious. 254 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: From the term that I met Corey Bromley, she was 255 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: somebody that you know, I could relate to, and you know, 256 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: at the time I was going to things that you know, 257 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: I could talk to her about. 258 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Corey also found unique ways to make money, like buying 259 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: people's old stuff and selling it on eBay and Greg's 260 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: maybe he could do that too. 261 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: I like, you know, pilfer and through stuff. I had 262 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: done some other work elsewhere and accumulated a bunch of things, 263 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: and she was helping me, you know, kind of take 264 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: inventory and possibly help meself some of it. 265 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Telena seemed to really enjoy having a friend around too. 266 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: It lifted her spirits. Here's ris again. Having Corey air 267 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: improved their quality of life. 268 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: He would go out in the yard and you know, 269 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: play with the dog. They would go on car ride 270 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: together and just take the bogs out of the lake. 271 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: While Corey's presence was a comfort, there were clues that 272 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Teleina was still struggling with Tom's loss. In November of 273 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, a few months before COVID hit, Tlena wrote 274 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: a note to her friends on Facebook entitled Grief Etiquette. 275 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Here's a reenactment of some of that post. 276 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 6: Over the last two years, many people have said they 277 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: don't know how to interact with me ari Tom's death. 278 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: The anniversary of Tom's death is approaching. I'm already struggling 279 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 6: with that, combined with lonely holidays. What I do not 280 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: need right now are unsolicited videos and picks of Tom. 281 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 6: At this point, it's difficult for me to concentrate on 282 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 6: work or have pockets of happiness if I see an 283 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 6: unsolicited pick or video. 284 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 7: During those times, I feel like I ran flat out 285 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: into a wall. It's painful. 286 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: If you ask first, I can respond when I'm emotionally 287 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 6: and physically available to reminisce. 288 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 7: If you post on your own feed, I can choose 289 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 7: whether or not to serve that content. 290 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: If you send me or tag me in unsolicited reminiscence, 291 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 6: I will block you to save my sanity. 292 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 7: Please don't slap me in the face with my grief. 293 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 7: Thanks for hearing me. 294 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: Heelena was never one to let anything do. She would 295 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: say that head on and a threat it because you know, 296 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: sitting in silence is uncomfortable. Let figure out what went 297 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: wrong and how we can avoid it in the future. 298 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Aris described to Lena as assertive and good at setting boundaries, 299 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: and so in April twenty twenty, when Telena posts on Facebook. 300 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 8: I made the decision at the ownset that if it 301 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 8: got bad enough, I would not go to the hospital. 302 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 8: Please respect my privacy and give me my alone time, 303 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 8: Aris does. 304 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: There were a lot of parts of her life that 305 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 4: she kept private, and we respected that, like we love 306 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: the person that she gave us every time we got 307 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: to see her. It did seem out of character, but 308 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: considering the fact that she had lost her husband not 309 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: so long ago. People can be consumed with Greece at 310 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: different times, it would make sense to me. 311 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Quick note, you've heard most of Telena's cryptic Facebook post already, 312 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: but there's a few lines I withheld that mentioned Tom. 313 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Now that you know who he is, this will make 314 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: more sense. 315 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 6: In and out of fever and chills with Tom just 316 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: out of reach, I'm going to either beat this virus 317 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 6: or be with Tom. 318 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 7: I see it as a win win situation. 319 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: Please respect my privacy and give me my alone time 320 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 6: on the lake with Tom. 321 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: In this part of the post, it resonates with those 322 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: who knew Telena in real life, who had witnessed her 323 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: debilitating depression after Tom's death. Here again is Nicole, who 324 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: saw Telena just a few weeks before she went missing. 325 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 9: I didn't take it as her being suicidal. I just 326 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 9: took it to mean that if she passed away from COVID, 327 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 9: she was at peace with it because she would be 328 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 9: with Tom, not that she was actively licking doorknobs and 329 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 9: trying to get COVID so that she could pass away. 330 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: I took it that she was. 331 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 9: Good either way, and I feel like I feel like 332 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 9: that was true. Telena fashioned you know, well, if I die, 333 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 9: I die. 334 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, There's not much I can do about it. 335 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 9: And if I live, I'll hug you again. 336 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: A week before Telena disappeared, she posted about her illness 337 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: on Facebook. 338 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 6: I called my doctor and was told to stay in 339 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 6: bed and stay hydrated and self medicate and call back 340 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 6: or go to the er. If my tempreach is one 341 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: O two. I think Oklahoma's medicals system is stretched thin 342 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 6: right now. I am thankful and grateful that I do 343 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 6: have someone watching out for me and running the household. 344 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 7: Back to bed. I'm exhausted. I love you all. 345 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Telena is talking about Corey, her roommate, running the household 346 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: and watching out for her. Corey had been the last 347 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: person to see Telena before she disappeared. On the day 348 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: Telena posted her mysterious message, Corey said she'd been out 349 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: running errands and came home to an empty house. The 350 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: next day, Corey posted to her own Facebook page, alerting 351 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: everyone to her missing roommate and asking for help. Here's 352 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: a recreation of parts of the post. 353 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 15: I called every taxi service I could think of last Eve, 354 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 15: and drivers don't keep records. I also called our phone 355 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 15: carrier to try and trace or track Telena's phone and 356 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 15: was told of an app that could do this if 357 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 15: the phone was turned on with location services activated. As 358 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 15: of this morning, she hasn't called home and her phone 359 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 15: still appears to be turned off. Anyone else hears from her, 360 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 15: please update me. 361 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: A day later, core posts again, this time sharing insight 362 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: into what Telena's experience with COVID had been like. 363 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 15: So this is my COVID nineteen rant and the state 364 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 15: of affairs here in rural Oklahoma. 365 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 7: Feel free to bypass this post. 366 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 15: I just need to rant or I will scream. 367 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 7: Maybe I need to do that. Anyway. 368 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 15: When Telena first got a fever of one hundred point five, 369 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 15: We packed up and went to the er. We expected 370 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 15: to be able to get her a test. A tech 371 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 15: met us outside, questioned all of her symptoms and sent 372 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 15: us home without even allowing us to check in. We 373 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 15: determined that the healthcare system, at least here in Oklahoma 374 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 15: was not equipped to take care of everyone with viral 375 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 15: symptoms and would only do so if you got bad 376 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 15: enough to probably be admitted in Looking back, I think 377 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 15: her attitude changed on that car ride home from the er. 378 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: A few days go by. Talina's friends hear nothing and 379 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: start to worry she's died of COVID alone in a 380 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: remote cabin. But they also start imagining other worst case scenarios, 381 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: like Greg who speculates that maybe Tolena was abducted. 382 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 2: When she came up Methan and put this big Facebook 383 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: post on there say I'm going to the wood to die. 384 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: It didn't sound like her. We didn't, I mean me 385 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: and my wife and talked about it. We live on 386 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: the Highway sixty nine and Highways sixty nine goes from 387 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: the heart attackes all the way into Tangas. At the time, 388 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot of abductions and stuff 389 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: from even walmarts. You know, over here in our area 390 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: there was ladies picked up from Walmart for suspected sex 391 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: trade type things. Me and my wife watch a lot 392 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: of crime shows. We're armchair investigators over here. I mean, 393 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: we get a little lead and we follow it and 394 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 2: it you know, we're not trained investigators, That's what I'm 395 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: saying it. So we just didn't know something like that 396 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: could have happened to Colena. 397 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: Her friends think hope, maybe Toleina will emerge over the weekend, 398 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: But as Saturday and Sunday come and go, they're polite. 399 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Respect for her privacy kurdles into concern and dread, and 400 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: there's consensus that the police now need to be involved. 401 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: On Monday, April thirteenth, Corey goes to the shriff's department, 402 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: but she's told that an adult woman leaving on her 403 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: own is not considered a missing person, at least not yet. 404 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: Four more days pass by Friday, Telena has still not returned, 405 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: so Corey tries again. This time she's able to file 406 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: a missing person's report. That same day, two deputies drive 407 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: out to Teleina and Corey's house. Because of COVID, they 408 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: play it safe and don't go inside. Instead, they talk 409 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: to Corey in the driveway. They get the basic facts, 410 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: like what Telena looks like and Telena's cell phone number, 411 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: which they immediately try to locate. Surveying the property. The 412 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: deputy's note a gray shed in front of the house 413 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: and several vehicles parked in the driveway, two cars and 414 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: a red truck with a trailer attached, and then they 415 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: turn the case over the detective Joel Weber, who will 416 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: lead the search. A few days later, he asks Corey 417 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: to come back to the station to provide more detail. 418 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 11: All Right, I just got cold in here. 419 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad I wore a sweatshirt. 420 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 11: I'm going to turn this up. 421 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, two weeks after Telena's Facebook post, Corey arrives 422 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: at the station wearing a COVID mask and gloves. We 423 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: don't have a recording of the conversation, but we do 424 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: have a transcript, parts of which we've recreated. 425 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 16: Let me just get some background information from you, sure, 426 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 16: and then we'll kind of go from there. And I 427 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 16: don't want you to think that you're in any trouble 428 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 16: because you're here, Okay, yeah, yeah, And that's pretty standard. 429 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 17: It's just normally I would have come to the house, 430 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 17: but give them the situation and all that. 431 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: Detective Weber asks Corey how they met and came to 432 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: live together. 433 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 15: I've known Telena about fifteen years, but we've really just 434 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 15: become close in the last couple of years since her 435 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 15: husband died. 436 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 11: How did you originally meet up with her? 437 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 15: There was a festival here in Wagner, Oklahoma that we 438 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 15: both attended fifteen years ago, and my husband and I 439 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 15: went and met her and her husband. Then she had 440 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 15: just gotten together with him, and it was actually a 441 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 15: big weekend party. So that's how we all got to 442 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 15: know each other first. 443 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 11: Okay, that's interesting. 444 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: Corey explains that she moved in less than a year ago, 445 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: in May twenty nineteen, and the two of. 446 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 11: You get together. 447 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 17: Is it because of her husband dying that you rekindle 448 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 17: or become closer? 449 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. 450 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 15: I was starting to have problems with my husband and 451 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 15: initiated a divorce, and she had lost her husband and 452 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 15: really lost an interest in living, and then we were 453 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 15: getting to know each other better and better, and it 454 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 15: just got to the point where she asked me if 455 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 15: I would stay with her because she couldn't be alone. 456 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 7: Sure, and then she was having I don't think she's 457 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 7: ever been diagnosed as. 458 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 15: Bipolar, but she had really up periods and really down periods, 459 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 15: and she didn't want to be alone during the very 460 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 15: down periods, Okay, so she needed a roommate. 461 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Corey tells the detective that when she moved in, she 462 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: took on a lot of responsibilities for Telena, who had 463 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: been struggling with her health. Corey ran errands for her, 464 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: handled the household duties. They got close fast. They considered 465 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: each other their emergency contacts. Telena even listed Corey as 466 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: the executor of her estate in her will, and so 467 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: when Telena got COVID, Corey went into full caregiver mode. 468 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 15: The first thing that happened she gets bad migraines, okay, 469 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 15: and she finished work on a Friday, went to bed early, 470 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 15: woke up Saturday morning with a really bad migraine that 471 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 15: ended up lasting two days. She pretty much stayed in 472 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 15: bed for two days with migraine. Okay, Monday, she's due 473 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 15: back at work. And Monday morning she asked me to 474 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 15: come in and take her temperature, which I did, and 475 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 15: she was running a one hundred point five, And so 476 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 15: she stayed in bed with her temperature. I can't remember 477 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 15: if we went that day or the next day, but 478 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 15: she pretty much kept her temperature at one hundred one 479 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 15: hundred point five. So we said we better go down 480 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 15: to the hospital. We didn't know what this is, and 481 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 15: so we went to the er at Wagner here and 482 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 15: a tech came out and asked, you know what symptoms 483 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 15: she was having and we told her that she had 484 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 15: to migraine all weekend and now she was spiking the temperature. Sure, 485 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 15: and they said go home and self medicate and look 486 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 15: for these signs. And he said, if your temperature goes 487 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 15: about one oh one or you start developing other problems, 488 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 15: to call back. 489 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 7: In or come back in. 490 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 15: So we went home, and she was kind of at 491 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 15: that point disheartened or kind of disgusted with things that 492 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 15: she couldn't get any help or diagnosis or couldn't even 493 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 15: check in. 494 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: By this point, there are over two point six million 495 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: confirmed cases of COVID globally. The US leads the world. 496 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: In New York is the epicenter with over two hundred 497 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand cases, thousands of deaths, and hospitals beyond capacity. 498 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma was preparing for the worst, predicting a surge in 499 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: COVID cases any day now. 500 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 15: She developed a really barking cough and sometimes she'd start 501 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 15: coughing and couldn't stop coughing. 502 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 7: She was starting to wheeze a little. 503 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 15: Bit, and I said, you know, we do not want 504 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 15: you catching pneumonia. So I asked her the night before, 505 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 15: I said, let's take you back to the emergency room. 506 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 15: I think you're bad enough now that they will admit you, right, 507 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 15: And she said no, she just wanted to spend the 508 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 15: night in her bed with one of the pops. 509 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: On the morning of April seventh, Corey says, she asks 510 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: again if she can take to Lena to the hospital 511 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: and toe Lena again says no. 512 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 15: She asked me to go out and do a few 513 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 15: things and give her some more time to snuggle with. 514 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 7: She's got a little yorky that she likes to stay. 515 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 15: In bed with, and she just wanted to I don't 516 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 15: know what she just wanted to do. 517 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 11: Did she ask you to do something specific or just 518 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 11: leave for a while. 519 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 15: Yeah, she just wanted me to leave her alone for 520 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 15: a while. I wish I had never gone and run 521 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 15: errands that day. 522 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: When Corey gets home sometime in the afternoon, she goes 523 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: into Toelina's room to check on her, and Toelena's gone. 524 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Corey can't tell if Teleina has taken clothes or an 525 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: overnight bag, but her phone is missing, along with some 526 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: medication and Toleina's guns. 527 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 15: She always kept a forty five magnetized to the bottom 528 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 15: of her bed. 529 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: Okay, that was gone. 530 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 15: And she always kept a nine millimeter in the car, okay, 531 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 15: and it was gone. She really she gets into these 532 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 15: places where she just she just wants to expire, and 533 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 15: so she doesn't really care. 534 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 7: She always says, you know, I've got my DNA orders. 535 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 7: I'm not going to let anybody you know, into vate 536 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 7: me or whatever. 537 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 15: Right, And she said, she said, it's a win win, 538 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 15: I get to see Tom sooner. And she talked like 539 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 15: that a lot. She'd have good days where she'd be 540 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 15: really excited about her job and we'd be planning a 541 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 15: trip and I think this is great, she's got a 542 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 15: reason to live. 543 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 7: It's all good. 544 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 15: And then she'd say, yeah, and the first chance I get, 545 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 15: I'm gonna check out. So she'd go really high on 546 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 15: her job or a trip, and then she'd get really 547 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 15: down and depressed and just not want to be around. 548 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 11: Has she ever attempted suicide that you know of? 549 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 7: She has not. She has not ever attempted it with me, 550 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 7: and I would know. 551 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 15: Has she talked about how she would do it if 552 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 15: she did constantly? 553 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 11: Well, what is the what's her general conversation. 554 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 7: On that general conversation with me? 555 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 15: That I would know when she had done it, that 556 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 15: she had a favorite little spot that she was going 557 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 15: to go to, and I think she was going to 558 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 15: use a gun. 559 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: Corey explains that Telena was very matter of fact about death. 560 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: Telena had already organized her own funeral and made plans 561 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: for her estate. 562 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 15: Telena has always had an end of life game plan 563 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 15: ever since Tom died. She prepaid her funeral, she planned 564 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 15: her own music and the order of songs. 565 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 7: She was going to do. She told not just me, 566 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: but I think. 567 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 15: All of her friends that you would talk to that 568 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 15: sooner or later she was going to go join Tom 569 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 15: on her own time. 570 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Still, Corey says she's holding out hope that Telena is 571 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: alive and offer to help Detective Weber in any way 572 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: she can. He asked her to watch the mail for 573 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: credit card statements and phone bills that may offer clues 574 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: to her whereabouts. 575 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 17: What's tough about the situation that we're in is that 576 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 17: we don't no. There's no clear evidence that a crime 577 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 17: was committed, so because she everything points to her intentionally leaving. 578 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 17: In other words, people are free to leave on their 579 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 17: own accord anytime they want, and just because they're missing 580 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 17: doesn't mean anything was nefarious. 581 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 7: There's still part of. 582 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 15: Me thinking that maybe someone will just call and say 583 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 15: she's sick somewhere. Most of me is saying that when 584 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 15: I get that phone call, it's gonna be because someone 585 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 15: found her. 586 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 7: I'm supposed to identify her. 587 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: While the cops are talking to Corey, the online sleuth 588 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: have their own sprawling investigation. 589 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 10: It was super intense. I mean we'd stay up for 590 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 10: hours late at night. During the day, I was always 591 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 10: on my phone. We were always googling something, looking up 592 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 10: people online, reaching out to people. 593 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Everybody had their roles. Brittany, as an Arkansas native, was 594 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: trying to piece together Telena's movements and timing. Jess was 595 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: the instigator reaching out to new contacts. 596 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 10: I probably spent twelve fourteen hours on my phone or 597 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 10: computer talking to people a day, cold calling strangers, We 598 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 10: tried several times to break into her email. We asked 599 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 10: her friend, Jim, who works night with Telena, if he 600 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 10: knew her passwords, and he sent him to us passwords 601 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 10: that he knew that didn't end up working. We talked 602 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 10: to the neighbors. The guy across the street. I called 603 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 10: him because he had a ring camera and we thought 604 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 10: maybe like he's seen Telena leave. He said it was 605 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 10: facing the wrong direction. He didn't see anything. 606 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: Jess and some of the other girls felt more comfortable 607 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: calling and talked to people than I did. I was 608 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: not the person that called. I was sort of the 609 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: fact checker. 610 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: This is Rosie the small business owner in Ohio. 611 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: So if people were telling me things, I would, you know, 612 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 3: look things up and figure things out and try to 613 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: see if these stories made sense. It got really fast, 614 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 3: really intensely fast. 615 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: Telena's real life friend Nicole starts taking advice from Jess 616 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: and the sleuths. 617 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 4: They were like, well, why isn't there a missing poster? 618 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 9: And I thought, well, why isn't there and so we 619 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 9: put together a missing poster immediately, you know, after that, 620 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 9: in a post that we could share. 621 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 4: Being in marketing, I kicked it up. 622 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: You know. 623 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 9: I contacted a friend who has a friend that's a 624 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 9: producer of Dateline. We started a missing videos. We put 625 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 9: together all kinds of things. We put together a team 626 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 9: in Wagner to do a vigil. We never let them 627 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 9: forget the name of Telena. 628 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, membership of the Fine Telena is our Facebook group 629 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: grows rapidly to almost four hundred participants, and with the 630 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: growth some growing pains. 631 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 9: There were some people like good intentions and some people 632 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 9: who I questioned their intentions. 633 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 10: There was a lot of trolls. Somebody had posted that 634 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 10: they saw Telen at a truck stop in Wyoming, just 635 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 10: out of nowhere. Oh, we she's working at a truck 636 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 10: stop in Wyoming at this diner. And so I think 637 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 10: probably forty people reached out to this woman and she's like, hey, 638 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 10: I'm joking. It was that's what I would do if 639 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 10: I was going to disappear, And it was like, why 640 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 10: would you post something like that. 641 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: The group starts off public, but obviously that's a mistake, 642 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: so they change it to private. Jess In some of 643 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: the other original members do admin duty, vetting new requests, 644 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: approving comments, keeping things civil. 645 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 10: Some of these people are jerks, tempers were high. I 646 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 10: think a lot of that came with being stuck inside too. 647 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: Jess is a true believer in the power of the 648 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: crowd source. 649 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 10: I watched Don't Fuck with Cats on Netflix, and those 650 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 10: people literally stopped a serial killer. They did. The internet 651 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 10: came together and was like, look at this room, let's 652 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 10: draw a map. 653 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: And the investigation into Telena's disappearance was, she admits, kind 654 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: of fun. 655 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 10: I really enjoy the picking apart why, and the gathering information, 656 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 10: and the talking to people and sometimes being the person 657 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 10: that knows more than the other. 658 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Guy, scheming with a bunch of strangers, laughing, brainstorming together. 659 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: It also makes Jess feel connected. 660 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 10: I think the whole world did that, didn't they. I mean, 661 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 10: I think everybody reached out to anybody they could because 662 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 10: we all felt so isolated. Any kind of connection you 663 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 10: could make with somebody, you kind of held on tight 664 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 10: to it because you couldn't see most of the people 665 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 10: in your life unless they lived with you. 666 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: It's a new community, united by a common goal find 667 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: to Lena's are, but it's hard to know just how 668 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: trustworthy everyone is. And there's a name that keeps popping 669 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: up in Jess's conversations. Has she talked to Toelena's close 670 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: friend Marty just gets a hold of his number. 671 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 10: I was sitting on the side porch I smoked at 672 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 10: the time. I smoked cigarette, so I didn't smoke in 673 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 10: my house. I have children, so I stepped outside of 674 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 10: smoke and I just called him. 675 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: Did you feel nervous about doing that? No, So I 676 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: think most people would not cold call someone random whose 677 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: friend dis disappeared. 678 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 10: I'm very I hate to say impulsive, because it's not 679 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 10: necessarily my entire personality, but a lot of stuff. If 680 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 10: I want to do it, I just do it. 681 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 7: I don't know. 682 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 10: I'm very direct. It doesn't help me make friends. Nicole 683 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 10: had told him that I was going to call, and 684 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 10: so when I called, he said, oh, hey, Darlin, how 685 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 10: are you. He had a very grandfatherly Southern drawl, just 686 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 10: very approachable, and I was like, oh, this guy's not scary. 687 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 10: He sounds like anybody's grandpa. And I just said, tell 688 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 10: me what's going on, and that's he just started talking. 689 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Connecting with Marty is like hitting gold for Jess and 690 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: the online sleuths because he's on the ground in Wagner 691 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: looking for Teleina too. And he's also been talking to 692 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department. For whatever reason, he's willing to share 693 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: everything he has with them. He's not skeptical of a 694 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: bunch of strangers doing their own investigation into Teleina's disappearance. 695 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: In fact, he welcomes it. The first big clue Marty 696 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: gives them has to do with Telena's cell phone. The 697 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: detectives tell him that her phone was last used on 698 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: April seventh, the same day as the Facebook post. 699 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 10: He had told us that the phone pinged in Arkansas 700 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 10: by Lake Mamel and it could have pinged within a 701 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 10: thirty mile radius. 702 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 8: Please respect my privacy and give me my alone time 703 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 8: on the lake. 704 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: Lake Mamel is a three and a half hour drive 705 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: from Wagner. Brittany, who happens to be in Arkansas, starts 706 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: putting together a map. 707 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 18: We looked at up the phone towers and stuff, and 708 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 18: I went and like screenshoted the map of the lake 709 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 18: and then put a radius over it. 710 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 10: So we started like going on maps and finding out 711 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 10: what could be within a thirty mile radius of where 712 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 10: her phone pained, and just trying to figure out where 713 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 10: she could be. What cabins or for rents where she 714 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 10: could stay. What lake is over there, what tiny lake 715 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 10: even if it's not the big lake mouth or something else, 716 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 10: a pond or whatever. 717 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 8: At one of my favorite idaways at one of my 718 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 8: favorite lakes, and I've booked it for the remainder of 719 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 8: this week. 720 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 18: We had come to the conclusion that there might not 721 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 18: have been very many airbnbs available at the time because 722 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 18: of COVID, because of the time of the year, and 723 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 18: because that area that her phone had pained in is 724 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 18: not really like an area that people go to for vacation, 725 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 18: like ma Mill is just like a business town, like 726 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 18: that's where work and go to school and stuff. 727 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 7: It's not like a vacation town. Didn't feel up to driving, 728 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 7: so I hired a ride. 729 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 10: We called all the uber and lyft hubs that we 730 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 10: could to see if their drivers kept track of who 731 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 10: they would pick up. Because she said she hired a ride. 732 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: Pretty quickly, Marty becomes their main source, a person who 733 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: seems to know a lot, who's just as committed as 734 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: they are to finding to Lena. He goes around town 735 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: passing out the missing poster, helps organize the vigil, even 736 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: talks to the local press. 737 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 13: I saw her my birthday on which is March twenty six, 738 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 13: and then I spoke to her on the phone on 739 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 13: the twenty seventh. 740 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: During this time, Marty and Jess are in constant communication way. 741 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 10: My text message is to twenty seven pm, three fifteen pm, 742 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 10: same day as just bam bam, bam, bam, bam, throwing 743 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 10: ideas at each other. It was obsessive. 744 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: It's a mutually beneficial relationship. Marty likes to talk, Jess 745 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: likes to listen. 746 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 10: He would talk and talk and talk, so he'd give 747 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 10: us information. He'd give us names, he would give us 748 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 10: phone numbers. 749 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: In the beginning, Jess doesn't know if she should trust Marty, 750 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: and that's just her baseline. She doesn't trust anyone before 751 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: they prove themselves to her. So she's kind of pretending 752 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: with Marty to get him to open up to her. 753 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: She'll say whatever to make him comfortable to get the 754 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: information she wants. 755 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 10: So all of us wear masks. Right at first, it 756 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 10: was almost like copying the way he'd talk to me. 757 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 10: I'd talk back to him that way to try to 758 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 10: make it so it's easier for us to communicate. And 759 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 10: then we go off on little talks. 760 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: Even though she's acting friendly on the phone. Jess is 761 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: double checking everything Marty says on Facebook. She can see 762 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: that Teleina and Marty seem to be good friends. Like 763 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: he said. They're tagged in each other's posts a lot, 764 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: including in a phone koo taken at the Oklahoma Renaissance 765 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: Fair in April twenty eighteen. It's Teleina, Marty and his 766 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 1: wife Lorianne. It's a warm day. They're dressed in shorts 767 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: and t shirts, all smiling widely. But in the caption, 768 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: Marty refers to both women as his quote wives, which 769 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: is confusing, and so is Telena's name or more accurately names. 770 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: When Jess runs a basic background check, the kind you 771 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: can pay for online, nothing comes up for Telenazar. Turns 772 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 1: out her legal name is actually Teuleina Galloway, but even 773 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: that name hadn't been her name for very long. Before 774 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: Telena Galloway, she was Jena Lovic and before that Jenna Dillman. 775 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: Ess doesn't know what to make of all this. With 776 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: additional researches, learns that Telenazar is more of her online nickname. 777 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 10: I'd done some Internet digging, you know, basic Google stuff, 778 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 10: and I googled Telenazar, and then that popped up with 779 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 10: the John Norman Gorrian novels, and I was like, literally 780 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 10: not very polite of me, What the how are you 781 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 10: people into? What is going on here? 782 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 11: Gore was a world of slaves and beautiful women of 783 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 11: human domination by the alien secret priest Kings. And it 784 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 11: was also the world of Telena. 785 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 8: Lena to Lena. 786 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 7: Lawrence. 787 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: That's next week on What Happened to Telenazar. What Happened 788 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: to Telenazar is a production of iHeart Podcasts. It's written, reported, 789 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: and hosted by me Melissa Jelson, with writing and story 790 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: editing by Lauren Hansen. Our executive producer is Ryan Murdoch. 791 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Jason English and Carl Catel. 792 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: Fact checking by Savannah Hugley. Zoey is our associate producer. 793 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: Jeremy Thal is our editor. Original music by Aaron Kaufman 794 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: with additional music by Jeremy Thal. Episodes are mixed and 795 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: mastered by Carl Katle. Voice acting by Lizzie Gore, Chris Ferry, 796 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: Stephanie Frame, Pete Monica, and Molly Maslin. Our logo is 797 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: designed by Edo Moore. Thanks so much, for listening,