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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. Hello, and welcome back to It Could

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<v Speaker 1>Happen Here, a show that is no longer hypothetical now

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<v Speaker 1>that it is happening here. I'm your occasional host, Molly Conger,

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<v Speaker 1>and today I just want to talk to you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about your online security. It's a hot topic

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<v Speaker 1>right now for obvious reasons, and this won't be a

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive overview on the subject by any meanings. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there will be more episodes in the future covering specific

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<v Speaker 1>angles on this and more depth, but today I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to touch on some basics, especially for people who

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<v Speaker 1>may be asking themselves some of these questions for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. This is more of a mental framework and

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<v Speaker 1>a pep talk. The main message here is don't freak out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the situation isn't serious for your concerns

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<v Speaker 1>aren't real. It's very serious. But freaking out is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do you any good. And if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for complicated, high tech solutions to the very real anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling right now, this episode doesn't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I have for you today. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people have really specific concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>apps they might be using to track their menstrual cycles

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<v Speaker 1>or fertility, and we're not going to touch on that

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<v Speaker 1>today because I think it's a topic that deserves its

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<v Speaker 1>own episode, and an episode where I talk to an

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<v Speaker 1>actual expert. So I'm hoping to get that out next month.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are we talking about? The answer is pretty simple,

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<v Speaker 1>calming down and shutting up. That's right. It's only Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>when this airs, but it is always shut the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>up Friday in our hearts, because the main source of

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<v Speaker 1>the risks you can do something about is your own mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing. I'm not an expert on digital security.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a computer programmer or a hacker. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to call our producer Danil one time because I went

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<v Speaker 1>to record an episode in my little recording device said no,

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<v Speaker 1>and I almost cried. And it turned out I accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>slid the little tab on the data card that locks it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but what I do know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about is how to exploit someone else's lack of digital security.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a listener to my show We're Little Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I kind of have a knack for

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<v Speaker 1>finding out everything there is to know about a guy

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<v Speaker 1>so what I can offer you is a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>reverse engineered guide to stay safe online from someone like

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<v Speaker 1>me but evil. I like to tell people that you

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<v Speaker 1>should be thinking of your digital security kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>your health. People are going to have different risk factors,

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<v Speaker 1>different vulnerabilities, different concerns, different goals. If you're undocumented or

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<v Speaker 1>on a student or work visa, the risks and possible

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<v Speaker 1>consequences for you are very different. If you're queer or trans,

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<v Speaker 1>or a person of color, your risk profile looks different.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're economically dependent on family members whose politics don't

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<v Speaker 1>align with yours, your risk profile is different. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have a criminal record, if you work in a field

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<v Speaker 1>where your political activity is a significant threat to your

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<v Speaker 1>continued employment, if you're running for office, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a security clearance, if you have children or vulnerable family

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<v Speaker 1>these are all different vulnerabilities, and you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>specific concerns that are unique to you. And this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>meant to address those specific risk scenarios. But just like

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<v Speaker 1>people who may have different risk factors when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to their health, everyone can benefit from the basics. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you are, you have to wash your

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<v Speaker 1>hands and when it comes to digital security. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people want to jump right to the exciting, complicated

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<v Speaker 1>technical fixes. You know, they want the Kim Kardashian full

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<v Speaker 1>body MRI equivalent of being safe online. People want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about buying burner phones and getting a Faraday bag

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<v Speaker 1>and evading high tech surveillance, but they're not washing their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>People love to say they're going to buy a burner phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go to Walmart and you buy a

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<v Speaker 1>burner phone, and you put your credit card into the

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<v Speaker 1>machine that is recording a video of your face, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you take that phone home and turn it on

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<v Speaker 1>inside your house next to your real phone, you've done

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but waste your time and money. So we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about solutions like that. We are talking about is boring,

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<v Speaker 1>un sexy, basic stuff that everybody can and should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing before they jump into the deep end. If you

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<v Speaker 1>choose to go that route, because I'm not saying you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't worry about more advanced threats, I'm just saying you

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<v Speaker 1>have to start here. So before you can figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to mitigate a risk, you have to nail down

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<v Speaker 1>what that risk actually is, What is the outcome that

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<v Speaker 1>you're hoping to avoid. There's a lot of anxiety right

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<v Speaker 1>now about unknowable possibilities, and it's really easy to get

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed with the what ifs of a worst case scenario

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just end up feeling really helpless. And look, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are there are some potential threats here that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the tools to help you address. But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you shouldn't be taking the steps that are

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<v Speaker 1>within your control right now. You have to fight off

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling of helplessness. So what we're talking about here

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<v Speaker 1>is threat modeling. I gave a little workshop a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago about digital security, and the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>asked the group was what is the bad thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you were worried will happen? And most people's answer to

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<v Speaker 1>that was they're worried about getting docksed. Okay, that's fair,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a valid fear, But what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>What specifically is the piece of information you are worried

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<v Speaker 1>someone will discover? Is it your name, your address where

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<v Speaker 1>you work? Is it connecting two pieces of your online

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<v Speaker 1>identity that you thought were separate. Docsing can mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things to different people at different contexts, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can happen in degrees right, like you know my

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<v Speaker 1>full legal name. I'm doxed to whatever extent that means anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But this could still happen to me. Someone could still

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<v Speaker 1>discover a piece of information about me that I wish

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have. And most people can't become completely anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help you do that, and honestly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that should be most people's goals. Don't disappear. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not telling you you should disappear. This is just about

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out what makes sense for you and what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do to navigate the landscape that you've chosen to

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<v Speaker 1>operate in. So, what is the actual negative outcome specifically

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<v Speaker 1>that is making you feel afraid? What is the concrete

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you are thinking about when you experience that fear.

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<v Speaker 1>And people's answers tend to be that they're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>getting harassed, They're worried about their physical safety, they're worried

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<v Speaker 1>about negative fallout at work or at school. People's fears

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be about things like getting arrested, getting sued,

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<v Speaker 1>getting fired, getting hurt, and getting embarrassed. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>next question is can you identify the potential sources for

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<v Speaker 1>the kinds of harm you're worried about, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>sort these into a few primary categories. The state can

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<v Speaker 1>harm you. That's the police, the government. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>charged with a crime. Institutions can harm you. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a student, you can get in trouble at school. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have some kind of professional license, people could file

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<v Speaker 1>complaints against you. Politicians and organized political groups can harm you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Marjorie Taylor Green might tweet your TikTok video

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<v Speaker 1>or Canary Mission might do a blog post about where

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<v Speaker 1>you work. And right wing groups can harm you. You

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<v Speaker 1>might get targeted harassment from some Nazi telegram channel. The

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, maybe you were physically threatened or attacked

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<v Speaker 1>by an extremist group. You could get swatted. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's just this sort of wild card of the random

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<v Speaker 1>strangers and Internet mobs and the way they factor into

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<v Speaker 1>and exacerbate all of the above scenarios. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to harm from the state, that's beyond what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with this digital hand washing metaphor. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the prevention steps you can take today are still going

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<v Speaker 1>to help you. They're still worth taking. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, if the government wants to know

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<v Speaker 1>who runs a Twitter account, who drove to a protest,

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<v Speaker 1>who supported a movement, who donated money. That's beyond the basics.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of what I have direct experience with are just

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<v Speaker 1>these basic measures that you can take today to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit harder for the average weird little

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<v Speaker 1>guy to get into your business. It'll stop the average

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<v Speaker 1>online troll, it'll slow down a decent sleuth, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the kind of stuff that stops a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>a warrant. Think of protecting your online identity like being

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<v Speaker 1>inside your house. If you have no curtains, someone walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the street can see you, even if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go out of their way to look. If you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>everything out there with no thought to digital security, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>could dock see without even trying, just like they would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see and through your windows from the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody who is a little more curious about you might

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<v Speaker 1>walk into your yard. But if you put up a fence,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that person will decide this isn't really worth my time.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody who loves peeping in windows and really wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see you, he's gonna hop your fence, right. But the

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<v Speaker 1>average troll will see these barriers and they'll get bored.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, curtains, a fence, a locked door, a guard dog,

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<v Speaker 1>these don't stop a guy with a warrant. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about just putting up barriers that slow down and

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<v Speaker 1>discourage the average low to mid level weirdo. In short,

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<v Speaker 1>delete your Facebook, set your accounts to private, you signal,

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<v Speaker 1>put a passcode on your phone, and say less and

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<v Speaker 1>try to do something about the data brokers. Let's break

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<v Speaker 1>these down one at a time. I'm sure it's been

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<v Speaker 1>talked about on this show before, but I tell everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in my life download Signal. Download Signal. It's free, put

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<v Speaker 1>it on your phone. It's just an encrypted messaging app,

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<v Speaker 1>and I use it by default, pretty much exclusively in

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<v Speaker 1>place of regular texting, just because it's easier for me

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<v Speaker 1>to have everything in one place. It doesn't collect or

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<v Speaker 1>store your metadata, it doesn't back up to the cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can set all of your conversations to automatically

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<v Speaker 1>disappear at whatever time interval you choose. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>text messages from a year ago, You don't. Those can

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<v Speaker 1>never help you, They can only hurt you. Just let

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<v Speaker 1>them go and turn off the biometric unlock on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's a fingerprint or a face ID, turn it off,

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<v Speaker 1>turn it off. Set a passcode. If you get arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and you have your phone on you, they can use

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<v Speaker 1>your finger or your face to unlock it without warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have a passcode, you're a little bit safer.

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<v Speaker 1>So set a pass code that's at least six digits

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<v Speaker 1>long longer if you can bear it, I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to social media, you have some choices.

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<v Speaker 1>You may look at your own threat model and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if everyone can see what I've posted,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's okay, right. We all have different goals and vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a very public organizer, then yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>need public social media. But if you've been using Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years, you probably weren't always very careful about

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<v Speaker 1>what was on there. And there are privacy settings now

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<v Speaker 1>where you can retroactively set all of your old posts

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<v Speaker 1>to a new privacy settings. You should do that start

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<v Speaker 1>there if you haven't done that, but that still leaves

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of digital debris. If you've changed your display

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<v Speaker 1>name to something more private in recent years, something that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't your current legal name, old posts that other people

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<v Speaker 1>made about you still have your old name in them.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they tagged you ten years ago, that old

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<v Speaker 1>name is still a link to your current profile, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't control the content that your friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>posted years ago. And on the flip side, if in

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<v Speaker 1>the end you decide you don't care what's on your

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook about you, when you're doing your threat modeling, consider

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<v Speaker 1>the people close to you, because when I'm working at

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<v Speaker 1>this from the other side, a lot of times I'll

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<v Speaker 1>find that, you know, the guy that I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 1>has done a pretty good job cleaning up his own

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<v Speaker 1>digital presence, but his wife, his mom, his sister, someone

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<v Speaker 1>in his life as not. So if there's someone in

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<v Speaker 1>your life who maybe is at greater risk than you are,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be their weak spot. And if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>position to do so, talk to the people in your

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<v Speaker 1>life about this. Have these conversations about what are our risks,

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<v Speaker 1>what are our goals, Let's do a digital hygiene and

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<v Speaker 1>check together. Because you can build an impenetrable digital fortress

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<v Speaker 1>around yourself. But if you're aunt Kathy is live streaming

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<v Speaker 1>your baby shower, that didn't do you much good. And

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<v Speaker 1>now that more people are talking about these kinds of concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>You can try approaching the subject with people in your

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<v Speaker 1>life that may not have been receptive to it a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. Show your mom how to set her Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>to private. Take the time to explain to your less

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<v Speaker 1>political siblings why they should think about the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which their social media use might expose someone they care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just scold them or you say it's reckless that

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this, talk about why so when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to social media, I'm saying delete your Facebook as a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shorthand for the general cleanup of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you've left online for the last twenty years. Cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>up your online presence is the number one thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do right now to thwart the bizarro universe version

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<v Speaker 1>of me who is trying to collect every piece of

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<v Speaker 1>information about you. Because even if you're careful today, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're so smart about it now and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>putting anything online that puts you at risk, you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>always that careful. We're all guilty of it. People who've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this for a long time, people who know better,

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<v Speaker 1>We're all guilty of being a little messy online. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no shame that you didn't know before. Don't feel silly,

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel guilty. Just start cleaning it up today and

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<v Speaker 1>so to figure out what exactly you might have been

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<v Speaker 1>leaving out in the open, one thing you can try

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<v Speaker 1>is doxing yourself, or do it with a friend, right,

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<v Speaker 1>try doxing each other. So start with a completely clean cash,

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<v Speaker 1>deleat your cookies, whatever, Open an incognito browser, start with

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<v Speaker 1>a blank slate, and just google yourself. Google your name,

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<v Speaker 1>your address, your phone number. Google the usernames that you

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<v Speaker 1>currently use on various sites. But google the username you

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<v Speaker 1>used in high school. Google your old aim handle, Google

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<v Speaker 1>the email address you made when you were twelve. What

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<v Speaker 1>comes up? And is that information you want everybody to have?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. Start by deleting accounts you don't use anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wipe those bad boys right out. You don't need those.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have no idea that the ghost

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<v Speaker 1>of their old MySpace page still exists online. I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>used that one fairly recently to confirm the details about

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<v Speaker 1>a person's close associates and family members. They hadn't logged

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<v Speaker 1>into MySpace since twenty ten. But your top eight lives

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<v Speaker 1>forever so delete or set to privates any account that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't use, don't need, or just don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be public facing. Log into every social media site, every forum,

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<v Speaker 1>every online store where you've ever created an account, and

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<v Speaker 1>just look at what's visible. Your online reviews may contain

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<v Speaker 1>information about where you live. Your profile on some forum

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<v Speaker 1>you posted on in twenty twelve probably has your birthday

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And if you're an active Pinterest user, your

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<v Speaker 1>Pinterest boards are probably revealing a lot more information about

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<v Speaker 1>you than you realize, information about your family, your interests,

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<v Speaker 1>your plans for the future. People will make Pinterest boards

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<v Speaker 1>with names like Jaden's second birthday, and now I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a son named Jaden whose second birthday

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<v Speaker 1>party you were planning last July. That's a real example.

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<v Speaker 1>So set these things to private. Change your profile picture

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<v Speaker 1>to something that isn't your face. Look at your username.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have to put some numbers at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that because the one you wanted was taken? Are

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers your birthday? And vary your usernames a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you have some kind of professional reason for using

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<v Speaker 1>a personal brand across every platform, don't use the same

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<v Speaker 1>username everywhere. Keep separate areas of your life. Separate, don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it any easier than it needs to be to

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<v Speaker 1>connect these different pieces of your digital footprint into one

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<v Speaker 1>picture of who you are. Because again I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about becoming completely anonymous online. A lot of people need

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<v Speaker 1>to exist online as the person that they are. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a LinkedIn, you do public facing organizing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying you need to disappear from online, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>have accounts that you don't want connected back to your

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<v Speaker 1>true identity, If there are pieces of you that exist

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't want side by side, don't connect them.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you anonymously run a social media account for

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<v Speaker 1>an activist group, don't use it to follow your own

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<v Speaker 1>real account. Don't like your boyfriend's posts when you're logged

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<v Speaker 1>into your anarchist shit posting account if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>it connected to you, don't create overlap. If you post

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<v Speaker 1>a screenshot from one social media platform onto another, a

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<v Speaker 1>screenshot of a tweet on your Instagram, whatever, be mindful

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<v Speaker 1>of what's in that image. Is there a thumbnail of

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<v Speaker 1>your own profile picture in there? Does the screenshot show

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<v Speaker 1>that you interacted with that post? Because a filled in

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<v Speaker 1>heart on an Instagram screenshot is something I have used

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<v Speaker 1>as a building block for a docs. And maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>never posted anything identifiable on Twitter, but if you've posted

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<v Speaker 1>a link to your Twitter account on Reddit, or are

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<v Speaker 1>you in a big discord and you shared one of

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<v Speaker 1>your own posts with your friends in there, like hey

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<v Speaker 1>look at this bang or tweet I'm going viral. And

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<v Speaker 1>I say both of those specifically because both of those

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<v Speaker 1>are specific mistakes that I have seen people make that

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<v Speaker 1>were for me a crucial link between two accounts that

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<v Speaker 1>connected the dots to figure out who they were. Use

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<v Speaker 1>two factor authentication, use a password manager, use complex passwords,

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<v Speaker 1>never recycle a password. Check databases like have I been poned?

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<v Speaker 1>See what's been leaked about you? And some of that

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<v Speaker 1>data is out of your control now, but it's out

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<v Speaker 1>there and you can't call it back. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>change all of your passwords today. You can download a

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<v Speaker 1>password manager and change all of your passwords today, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of your passwords should be something different from one another.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say it again, change all your passwords.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop using your dog's name as your password for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard, but I did it, okay. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this digital hygiene check. You know you're googling yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You're checking these breach databases. One of the things you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find is your address, your email address, and

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<v Speaker 1>your phone number, and your parents' names and your parents address.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these pieces of what you thought were personal

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<v Speaker 1>private information. They are bought and sold to data brokers,

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<v Speaker 1>and these data brokers put them online on sites that

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<v Speaker 1>people can pay to access. Fel like people find your

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<v Speaker 1>true people search white Pages. There's hundreds of them. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>By law, all of these sites have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>link on them somewhere where you can ask them to

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<v Speaker 1>delete your information. Some of them make it kind of hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it may take weeks for them to actually honor

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<v Speaker 1>the requests, and you may have to follow up. But theoretically,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're operating legally, you do have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>manually clean up how much of your personal information comes

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<v Speaker 1>up from these data brokers. But I'll be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's whack a mole. You could spend one afternoon a

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<v Speaker 1>week for the rest of your life making opt out

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<v Speaker 1>requests and following up on them and checking back to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's really gone. You can do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do that, but there are also services that

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<v Speaker 1>will do it for you for a fee. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there may be an episode in the pipeline examining that

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<v Speaker 1>particular ecosystem and some more details. So I won't go

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<v Speaker 1>into the pros and cons of different services that exist,

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<v Speaker 1>but if that's something you're interested in paying for, do

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<v Speaker 1>some research about it before you put your money down.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>you to remember you can't solve this whole problem. That

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<v Speaker 1>might sound like a defeatist message, but I think it's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's hopeless. I'm saying you have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your energy where it counts. People ask me all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you know, are you worried about this or

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<v Speaker 1>that specific threat? And the answer is yeah, probably, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I'm worried. But you can't let that fear

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelm you. You know, if I get fixated on the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of threats that are outside of my control, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just freak out, and that makes me less capable of

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on mitigating the threats that are within my control.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't put blinders on, don't lie to yourself, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be realistic, but don't wear yourself out worrying about things

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<v Speaker 1>that are so far out of your control that all

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<v Speaker 1>you have is fear. So today, now take a deep breath,

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<v Speaker 1>delete your MySpace account, and talk to your mom about

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<v Speaker 1>setting all her old Facebook pictures to private. It could

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