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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who

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Speaker 1: talked back. What's up, y'all, Welcome to a new episode

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Speaker 1: that we talked back. It's your girl a j Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 1: Li's me Tim Band. I love y'all so much. How

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Speaker 1: y'all doing you on that fake as baby boy? That's

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Speaker 1: my southern girl voice. When I used when I go

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Speaker 1: to like Europe and stuff, they love that ship. I

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Speaker 1: was like, Hey, y'all, how y'all doing the news? Let

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Speaker 1: me in the color free. I was your weekend, y'all.

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Speaker 1: What did I do this weekend? I feel like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I went to the Anti Fast. It was Monica Eskate

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Speaker 1: here is genuine. Uh, you ain't telling me about Agetown.

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Speaker 1: I had forgot that, me and my sister guy tickets

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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I'm on my way, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, let me clean what you

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Speaker 1: didn't mention the concert? You didn't mention who was gonna

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Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? And then who else was on one

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Speaker 1: twelve Peaches and Creek Bitch. I was in there getting it.

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Speaker 1: My throat was sore by the time I left from

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Speaker 1: trying to sing with Kenny Birds too. That's all he

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Speaker 1: was doing a singer and dancing and singing and drinking.

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Speaker 1: I had fun, but it was definitely auntie fist. Was it?

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Speaker 1: A lot of single aunties in there. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot of single aunties and a lot of aunties with

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Speaker 1: the nigger. Yes, it was a good old Where was it?

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Speaker 1: It was at the Spectrum Arena. They packed that bitch too.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was there. Who all was it again?

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Speaker 1: It was Monica Escate one twelve, Ace Town in Jinuine.

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Speaker 1: I'm mad I missed that Januine? Still fine? You think?

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Speaker 1: Genuinely fine? He liked n like nine five. He's still

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Speaker 1: ninety four fine though, Yeah, ninety four like skin nigga fund. Yeah. Pretty.

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Speaker 1: He's a good look at man, and he's like he

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Speaker 1: seemed like he enjoyed that attention to my boy said,

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Speaker 1: he not even thinking no more. He got during escape

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Speaker 1: that waver there people set your hands down. He want

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Speaker 1: to make sure y'all see him. Shame, but that was

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Speaker 1: that was a good time. What about you? I ain't

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Speaker 1: too much hung out? What a friend? Uh, just dinner

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Speaker 1: that type of stuff, regular courting, okay, just in case

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Speaker 1: the nigga is interested in knowing. Yeah, that's all chilling

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Speaker 1: out a little bit girl? Why uh? The guy who

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Speaker 1: I was out with gets uh email? Well a text

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Speaker 1: message first, because he posted his food and I even

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Speaker 1: hid my pocketbook in the in the he's something the

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Speaker 1: only person say pocketbook. I even hid my purse in

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Speaker 1: the right because that's where pocketbooks be. We was at

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Speaker 1: stay girl, I had got like some shrimp and scallop ship.

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Speaker 1: Oh a big fucking bowl of pasta? Yeah, what is that?

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Speaker 1: Why would y'all be selling that? So I did not

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Speaker 1: enjoy my food for real. But the naga posted the

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Speaker 1: food on his Instagram story and then he gets a

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Speaker 1: text message that said, um, can I have your email address, sir?

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Speaker 1: So he sends the email address to this person via text,

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Speaker 1: and about two minutes later, the nigga gets a fucking

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Speaker 1: invoice to paint this bitch house. She was like, oh

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Speaker 1: you're buying sho Okay, Well I told you see my

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Speaker 1: living room wall? Bitch? You go to invoice? How do

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Speaker 1: y'all ask for money? Because I feel like she she

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Speaker 1: was a nice try. She must have been already asking

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Speaker 1: be like, so see me, what's your email? That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of entitlement. Bit because that is not a nice

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Speaker 1: way to finesse. And they got the check, she didn't

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Speaker 1: get it. I would never do no ship like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you gotta be nice and you can't talk to

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Speaker 1: me no more of you send that money right. Look,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was on her side though. I was like, yeah, bitch,

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Speaker 1: but that is not how you get money at a man.

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Speaker 1: That's real rude, that's all that's like. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: seen people. I think somebody under this to me before.

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Speaker 1: Just send me a cash at request. No, you need

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Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and call me and ask

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Speaker 1: me for my fucking money, just to me sending me

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Speaker 1: no God to have cash request. Yeah, women do not

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Speaker 1: aggressively asking for money. I'm very sweet. Hey baby, how's

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Speaker 1: your day going. Did you eat yet? Okay, honey, did

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Speaker 1: you eat? Yeah? Let me hang up your coach, coach,

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Speaker 1: your cote, nigga and what else? What else? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do it all your pockets and I'll be nice and

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Speaker 1: I don't rub your shoulders and massage your temples and

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Speaker 1: ship make you a drink you want to drink? Would

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Speaker 1: you like a beverage? And then I'm a fun ah bang,

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Speaker 1: But you fucking actress, Okay, I remember I told you

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Speaker 1: I had the thing. That thing that I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do is in two weeks, and can you give me

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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars for it? Please? Goddamn this bitch was

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Speaker 1: only asked for eight hundred dollars. I told her. I

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Speaker 1: told her to test. I told him to test. Text

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Speaker 1: her back and say, do I live there? Is that

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Speaker 1: my house? Yeah? Did he say that? Because she like you,

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Speaker 1: you'd be eating this pussy over here exactly. He said

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Speaker 1: he's never been to her house before. Well, shame she

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Speaker 1: didn't ask that for no reason. He made her feel

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Speaker 1: like she could ask for that. That's how I feel,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like a woman ain't gonna ask a

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Speaker 1: man for money in that way, a man that they respect.

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Speaker 1: It's like, let me send this to this sympass and

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Speaker 1: how when I'm ready to get rid of a nigga,

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Speaker 1: that's what I do. I'll ask for some outlandish amount

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Speaker 1: of money and either you can come through or you ain't.

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Speaker 1: And it's a win either way. Either you're gonna disappear

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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna get the money right, but I need

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars by tomorrow. NULD be like what my

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Speaker 1: enemies are after me watched I watched it. Now you

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Speaker 1: said I'll be watching TV. I watched that ship. I

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Speaker 1: could not believe it. And I need you to take

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Speaker 1: a credit card out for twenty five thou dollars right now, baby,

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Speaker 1: and another one. And you see the last girl how

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Speaker 1: she finessed his ass back. Don't clothes, y'all, if y'all,

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Speaker 1: if y'all haven't seen yes Netflix, yo, the last bit

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Speaker 1: got all his naked designer clothes and started. She said

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Speaker 1: she's still selling it up until the day of recording,

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Speaker 1: still selling that on eBay could and she was hitting

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Speaker 1: He was hitting her up mad that she had finessed him.

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Speaker 1: You can't get man, that's a psychopath, sociopath, which was

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Speaker 1: going between being nice and being mean back and forth

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Speaker 1: about them damn clothes. How about finessed these bitches without

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Speaker 1: my drip home. Yeah, we got my whole uniform over there, bitch, dog,

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Speaker 1: I know a bit you got played by nigga like that,

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Speaker 1: Like when she met the nigga. He obviously was finessing

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Speaker 1: somebody else to take care of her, and when her

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Speaker 1: time was up, that nigga started running a muck up

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Speaker 1: on her checking account. And that's probably to take care

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Speaker 1: of the next woman. Like, what is the fucking thought

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Speaker 1: whole financial predator out here. That's scary. Yeah, that's scary,

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Speaker 1: but you ain't gonna get me. Not getting me. I

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Speaker 1: got two things for you, baby, I'll make it three. Encouragement,

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Speaker 1: pussy and jokes. That's it. Make you laugh. I've encourage

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Speaker 1: you to go, you give it your best shot. And

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Speaker 1: then I thought it, I'm confused. How the fuck if

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Speaker 1: you never yourself went and took out these type of

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Speaker 1: credit cards, you never took these type of loans. Obviously

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Speaker 1: you can't afford this ship. What kind of dick does

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Speaker 1: Maybe she has low self esteem. I was doing that,

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Speaker 1: but no. Still nobody deserves to get finest like that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to figure out, because you know,

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Speaker 1: what should happens to you, you you always got to look within.

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Speaker 1: But what is it about me? That allowed myself to

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Speaker 1: be finessed by this new right. But it was in

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Speaker 1: love and he made himself look like he was he

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Speaker 1: had it like that, but still a millionaire, a billionaire

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Speaker 1: that was flying private jets I built. The weirdest part

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Speaker 1: against him before and didn't mention it to the girl.

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Speaker 1: And now you were part of the finesse. She's not

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Speaker 1: finesse that they got the whole kid guard your puss,

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Speaker 1: his ladies, they are his swindling boys at about three

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Speaker 1: million point periods. Another tender swindler, Mary J. Blige, husband

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Speaker 1: can do Isaacs m so y'all. Mary was on the

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Speaker 1: box Andre Martinez show recently and she was talking about how, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, she filed for divorce from her ex in

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Speaker 1: after she caught him basically taking care of another bit

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Speaker 1: you know, the divorce whatever situation. How much was thirty

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Speaker 1: go back on tour to pay that ship. How she

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Speaker 1: lost her soul in their relationship racks a month. That's

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Speaker 1: some bullshit. Like, personally, I would have just paid somebody

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Speaker 1: do not condoned violence or murder friars allegedly. No, but ship,

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Speaker 1: this happens to men every day when they get a divorce.

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Speaker 1: They had to pay that money. But you don't do

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Speaker 1: that to Mary. Mary is a whole national treasure. You

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Speaker 1: don't do that to Mary. Mary j Blige. I know

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Speaker 1: he's why her ass at the Super Bowl, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my ex BA, you did a super bowlish it.

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Speaker 1: She passed out because I gotta given listen, that was

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Speaker 1: the two years, during the two years that they were

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Speaker 1: going through the divorce. She's not paying him no more.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think gee, I would definitely would have

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Speaker 1: had his ass knocked out. And I'm gonna talk for

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Speaker 1: that ship. I know Mary, she's going through that ship.

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Speaker 1: She had came running around like Lorenzo and Jail, Terek

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Speaker 1: and Diana fucking running them up. And she gotta give

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Speaker 1: kid do thirty am what hey? Like she probably should

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Speaker 1: have been a mona on that nigger had his ass

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Speaker 1: hanging for bonds and something. Your damn goodness, City boys

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Speaker 1: up for real about three trillion dollars? Do we have

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Speaker 1: a batty who talks back? We do, as a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact. Let me see y'all. All right, y'all know

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Speaker 1: we've been doing for the for Black History Month or

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Speaker 1: excuse me, I like what Kanye is saying, Black Future Month?

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Speaker 1: All right, we ain't living in the past no more.

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Speaker 1: It's up from here. So this week's batty who talks back,

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Speaker 1: uh is Gwendoline Brooks. Gwendolen Brooks. She's born in Topeka, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: and her family was in Chicago when she was Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of breath. Why did I get out of breath?

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Speaker 1: All right? So this week's batty who're talking at the

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Speaker 1: same time, But we just jumped into that bage like

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Speaker 1: this one. You know, you're family. I aren't even moving

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Speaker 1: around me, and I'm exhausted using my heir to speak.

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Speaker 1: Y'all hit that alright? Sorry? H all right, y'all. So look,

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Speaker 1: this week's batty who talks back is Gwendolynn Elizabeth Brooks um.

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Speaker 1: Her and her family moved to Chicago from Topeka, Kansas

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Speaker 1: when she was a young girl. She was an American poet, arthur,

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Speaker 1: and teacher. Her work often dealt with personal liberations and

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Speaker 1: struggles of ordinary people in her community. She won the

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Speaker 1: Polar Surprise for Poetry in May Excuse Me on May first,

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty for Annie Allen, making her the first African

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Speaker 1: American to receive a poet Surprise. Many of brooks works

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Speaker 1: display of political consciousness, especially those from the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 1: and later, with several of her poems reflecting the civil

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Speaker 1: rights activism of that period. So listen. You've heard her

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Speaker 1: nothing will replace that. Um. Having said that, I do

423
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: feel like he left behind a group of people, a

424
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: group of artists who really want to make him proud,

425
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: who really understood what it was he was wanting to say. Um,

426
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: And I do feel proud of where the show was going.

427
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I hope he's proud, you know. I do know that

428
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: when we come, we come with our a game and

429
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: we do our best, and when things don't feel right

430
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: on the page, you know, we go in the room

431
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: and or call up the show runner and say, hey,

432
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: what what does this mean? You know? Um? And I

433
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: think that our writers are smart writers and their humans

434
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: and they want to tell a human story. And and yeah,

435
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: I hope John is proud now. A j said she

436
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: brought up you being married because she wanted you to

437
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: say something juicy about dancing. But we know you ain't

438
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Some we're gonna lead that alone. It's like,

439
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: my brother, I'm weird. It's like, I don't know if

440
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: I had anything, So tell us this. How do you

441
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: juggle being a mom because I see your mom to

442
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: a two year old and being a wife, so those

443
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: take huge, you know, amount of time their priority. How

444
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: do you juggle those with career? Um? I think I

445
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: just try to be in the moment, you know. Um,

446
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: When I'm at work, I have a husband, an amazing husband, y'all.

447
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: He holds me down so much. I just I don't

448
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: know if I can do it. Yes, yes it is.

449
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: And and you know, when I'm at work, I'm at work,

450
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: and and the baby is at an age where I

451
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: don't call to check in with her because it just

452
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: makes her more mad. So it doesn't yeah, exactly, and

453
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: it should be crying and I feel bad by the

454
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: husband and the nanny and so, um, when I'm at work,

455
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm at work check in with my husband, but not

456
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: on FaceTime yet not yet. Um. And then when I'm

457
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: with my family, I'm with my family and and he's

458
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: in the business too, and so it makes it easier

459
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: to have a short hand on you know, what's happening

460
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: and what needs to happen. And um, we just you know,

461
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: really work to support each other in that way, you know.

462
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: And when if I need to take some time to

463
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, do interviews or to you know, work on

464
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: some lines or you know, to take we help each

465
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: other with our health tapes and things like that. We

466
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: we figure it out. And so I don't I don't

467
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: know how I juggle it. I just know what needs

468
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: to get done and we figure it out. That's right.

469
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: So you're from Detroit and I see that you're a vegan,

470
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: and I know your aunts grew up. So how did

471
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: that happen? When when did you decided to become a

472
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: vegan and why? Yeah, So, to be honest, I am

473
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: pesca vegan. I added fish and in my second trimester. Um,

474
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: but I became vegan because I knew I wanted to

475
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: have a baby, but I wasn't sure when that was

476
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um, especially once I put snowfall, I was like, Okay,

477
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: well now I'm in a show. Am I gonna stop

478
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: to have a baby? But I didn't. I fully believe

479
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: in energy and and and all that stuff that some

480
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: people might call who woo but something my friend calls

481
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: it the woo. I fully believe in the woo. And

482
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to tell the baby energy no

483
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: to go away. So I said to the baby, whenever

484
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: you're ready, I'll be ready. And and in that process

485
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: I meditate, uh quite a bit, and I heard prepare

486
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: the space. And I took that um to mean not

487
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: only my home but also my body. And because I

488
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: did grow up in Detroit, and I you know, I

489
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: was chili, cheese, fries and all the burgers and all

490
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: the things. And I just felt like, over the years

491
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: my body and I grew up a dancer. So my

492
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: body has worked hard to to support me and to

493
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: allow me to thrive. And so in this moment where

494
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: I want my body to do this, perform this miracle

495
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: and and and to perform optimally, maybe I should take

496
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: a break from things that require a lot to digest

497
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: that prevent the body from healing, because when your body

498
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: is digesting, it's not healing the things that you needed

499
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: to heal. And I didn't have any like major ailments

500
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: or anything, but I'm sure there are things that you

501
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: know needed to happen in order to perform optimally, you know,

502
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: And and and I feel like I did the right

503
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: thing because my baby came milin she's she's at genius baby,

504
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: like you know. And so what do you call it?

505
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: Pest vegan? What you call it? Because I I eat

506
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: a plant based diet mostly, but I most of the time.

507
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm um. I never just did straight vegan for a

508
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: long time, so I do do the fish. I'm from

509
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: the South, we from the South. Child, it's hard to

510
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: just discard seafood living and growing up on the coast. Yeah,

511
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: it interesting. Yeah, But you know, I think what's more

512
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: important than and this is you know, completely my opinion,

513
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: But what's more important than vegan or not being an

514
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: a keto or whatever whatever whatever you want to be? Like,

515
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: we don't really need labels that I think the ideal

516
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: thing is to be able to choose your meals every meal.

517
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Is a choice, you know what I mean. And if

518
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: you're conscious of what you're eating, what you're putting in

519
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: your body, then who cares whether you're vegan or not.

520
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: It's really about are you eating the things that's going

521
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: to allow you to thrive? Right? You know? But sometimes

522
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger helped me, But you don't feel good after

523
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: it though, you know what I'm saying. Like you don't,

524
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. But I started

525
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: laying to beyond stuff because it's like three D meat,

526
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I exactly, I'd rather

527
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: eat a piece of salmon than eating what did your friends?

528
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: What did your friends say? My friends said everything in moderation,

529
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: including moderation. So sometimes it's good to have that burger

530
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: because every meal is a choice, and in this moment,

531
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I choose to have a Burger Burger. So, UM, I

532
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: see that you're a huge philanthropist. You're doing the Cancer

533
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Society of America, Leukemia and le froma society, and most

534
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: importantly to me is the Black and Missing. How how

535
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: did you get involved with that? Um? How did I

536
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: get involved? It was years ago. It just UM came

537
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: to me in some kind of way that um, you know,

538
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: when we go missing, ain't nobody checking. And I felt like, yeah,

539
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: like that's terrible, and what can I do to you know,

540
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of help that. And you know, at the moment,

541
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I have a couple of dollars

542
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: and this is long before snowfall, Like, let me just

543
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: contribute to them. And so that's been, you know, it's

544
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: really just been you know, little contributions here and there.

545
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: My um, I biggest platform right now is UM in

546
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: the black maternal health space. After having my baby, I

547
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: realized I just learned so much. Oh my goodness, UM

548
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I learned a lot and I realized at the end

549
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: of it that I spent a lot of money trying

550
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: to have a healthy birth. UM something unexpected things happened

551
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: and nothing like it wasn't anything like traumatic. I had

552
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful experience, but I had reath like sologe I

553
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: was trying to induce. They wanted I needed to be

554
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: induced and I didn't want to do it. I didn't

555
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: want to get induced. I wanted to have a natural

556
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: water birth, and so I got read lexology, I had acupuncture,

557
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: I had a massage. Massues come a couple of times,

558
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: like all of these things, just trying to just trying

559
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: to induce naturally, it didn't happen. Um, I ended up

560
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: needing to be induced and everything you know worked out mine.

561
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: But I was like, I spent a lot of money.

562
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: What if I wasn't on the TV show? How would

563
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: that have gone down? You know? And what if I

564
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: didn't have access to all of these resources. So I

565
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: just think it is another tragedy in this country that

566
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have all you know, stacks and

567
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: stacks in order to have in order to feel safe

568
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: in the knowing that you can have a healthy, joyous

569
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: birth right. That's the tragedy. And so I'm really um

570
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: working to to educate women on the different resources that

571
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: are available to them. I'm working to be a vessel

572
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: for those resources to not be a burden on women

573
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: at a time that's already so full of you know,

574
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: the unexpected and the unknown like less you know, we

575
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: should be feel enjoy at that time, not stressed, you know.

576
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: And and and it's important for women, for our women

577
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: to feel supported, to be supported and to have a

578
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: voice and feel like they can be advocates for themselves.

579
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: And if they can't they have support to advocate for

580
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: them because it's a lot of it's a lot of bulls.

581
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: So is that the moon Child Collaborative because I saw

582
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: that Moonchild Collaborative. Well, it's under that. So Moonchild Collaborative

583
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: is my umbrella production company and houses UM myself and

584
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: my husband as UM business entities. And then underneath that

585
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: umbrella we have Moonchild. Uh yeah, wait, moon Child Group

586
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: is the umbrella company. Moonchild Collaborative is the nonprofit entity.

587
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: And then our first program under that is birth Village,

588
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: which is like what you what the masses We'll see

589
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: once we are done branding and sounds nice. Now. I

590
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: saw on your website that you had some core character

591
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: traits listed in the Girl. I was researching your girl,

592
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: the transcendent lover, the survivor, the timid warrior, and the

593
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: heroine with the forgotten song. Which one do you feel

594
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: like you resonates with you most? And why? Well, I

595
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: think all of them resonate with me the most, which

596
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: is why I UM pulled them out like those are

597
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: the So in any given UM project, in any given character,

598
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: if those traits are there, that's what I'm gonna I'm

599
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna easily connect to those things. So and doesn't matter,

600
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, how old the character is, It doesn't matter

601
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: if the character is is written as white or Asian

602
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: or or what it is. I'm going to be able

603
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I get what this character is

604
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: going through because oh, that's the timid warrior. She's the

605
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: one who like is afraid to speak out, but she's

606
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna do it anyway, and that that resonates with me.

607
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: So each of those um um uh character types are

608
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: the ones that that I can settle into easily because

609
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: that's where I go. Because I was gonna ask you, like,

610
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: what are some of the um some of the things

611
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: that you've learned about yourself playing you know, such a strong,

612
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: dynamic character like Aunt Louis. Yeah, I've learned that I

613
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: don't speak up as often as I should, and that

614
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: I can and speak up more like I am fully capable. Yeah,

615
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm fully capable of filling that space. I don't think

616
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: I really really knew that before. Um And I've learned

617
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: how to really hone in on storytelling and this is

618
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: an actor's skill and this is what also with the

619
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: help of Aim and Aiman Joseph who plays Jerome he's

620
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: so good at like cutting through all the other things

621
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: that's happening in the scene and getting right to the

622
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: meat of the story, like what's really happening between these

623
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: two characters right now? Um, and he often brings all

624
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: of us two that clarity. Um. It's really he's so

625
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: good at that. He's going to be an amazing director. Um.

626
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: He already is. He's directing, but you'll get bigger. Yeah. Um.

627
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: But in that I have learned a little bit of

628
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: how to do that too. So it's exciting to tell

629
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: me this. What what? What's something that people should know

630
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: about you that they that nobody would know something about

631
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Angela not Louis. Mm. What should people know about me

632
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: that they don't already know? Um? That's a good question. Um, oh,

633
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I stumped you on that one. You did? You did?

634
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: I what we don't have that? Okay? Well, what is

635
00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: something that people incorrectly assume about you? People? People think

636
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm crazy based on are but no, they really think

637
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna be like beating people up and

638
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, wait, no, that that's not me. That's

639
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how it happens right there. Do people

640
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: come to your social media talking shit like you're the character. No,

641
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean not really. Sometimes people come out of pocket

642
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, well I have to step strate,

643
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, in a loving way. Tell us this. What

644
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: what is your dream role? Like? Who do you want

645
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: to play? Are? What would it be? Um? I mean

646
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I still have a lot of dream roles left to play. Um,

647
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: I do want to I want to play a character

648
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: who is other worldly. So I like, I love some

649
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: sci fi so and I and I love um when

650
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: you start getting into like magic and and ethereal things. Um, yeah,

651
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: talk about stupid. Okay, Now, if you had somebody to

652
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: play you in a movie, like if your lifetime story

653
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: was a movie, who would you want to be here? Oh? Man?

654
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Um me at this point herself, what are youbody? I'm

655
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: still young? But somebody else? Who who would I get? Um?

656
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: You know shan Say Adams. It's from Detroit and she's

657
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: so good. Um so yeah, I would say Shante Sante Adams.

658
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: She was in Baby Boy. Um No, Shante was in

659
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: what's this last movie she did with? Um? Oh god? Um?

660
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: She was Roxane Okay okay, yeah, okay, yeah she's different.

661
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, I got one more question. Okay almost, Uh,

662
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: tell me, like the most cutthroat experience you had in Hollywood,

663
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: because I know it's a cutthroat industry. The most cut

664
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: When did when did you almost become Louis in real life? Like?

665
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: They don't try then out of me and I had

666
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: to beat somebody up on set. I'm gonna call my husband, right,

667
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: um man, um, I wasn't about so Okay, here's one.

668
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: The carpet, right. The carpet is such an interesting thing

669
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: because the red carpet, because it's more than just getting

670
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: pretty for a picture, right, There's a lot of things

671
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: that go into it, and especially I'm gonna say, especially

672
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: when you first started out it, You've worked your butt

673
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: off to get to where you are finally in this

674
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: position where I even get to walk a red carpet, right,

675
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: and now you spent all of this money to hire

676
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: a stylus, the hair and the and the makeup and

677
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: the boardrobe stylist to get finally get the look and

678
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: you get to the carpet. The first time I went

679
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: on a carpet that wasn't an f X carpet. So

680
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: with f FX, everybody was are for us. Everybody knows

681
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: these are the people were in the family. So the

682
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: cameras are I can't roll my tongue, but you know,

683
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: it's going and going and going. So my first non

684
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: effex carpet, I remember what it was, but nobody knew

685
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: who I was. I mean, my name was on the

686
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: list and everybody had the thing with my picture and

687
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: my name. So the photographers were like, who this black girl? Yeah,

688
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: no picture. I'm like that, ain't gonna take the picture away?

689
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: And then finally maybe they would mm hmmm, and I'm like, wait,

690
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: what is happening right now? It was such a demoralizing moment,

691
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: and like, well, clearly I belong here because my name

692
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: is on the thing. I'm Auntie Louie. You're not playing

693
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: with me, But why would you even do that? That

694
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: was it was the meanest thing that's ever happened to me.

695
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: And and it was though that moment that I realized, Oh,

696
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: this is all about money, Like, however you getting paid,

697
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: you ain't really getting paid to take my pictures, so

698
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: you don't need to. This is not about me. And

699
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: this is the moment that I learned that Hollywood is

700
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: not really about you. Hollywood and money machine. Yes, and

701
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: so I that was the moment I had to like

702
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: change my focus and and and really hone into what

703
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: is about me? You know, because even when they don't

704
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: know me, it's not about me. But even when they do,

705
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: when they are like Miss Lewis, Mrs Lewis, ms Lewis

706
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: taking the pictures, taking the pictures, and you know, and

707
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, three four or five, ten years, you know,

708
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: as I get bigger in my career, gets bigger, you know,

709
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: it still is not about me. I can't take that

710
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: to my head, you know, and let it get in

711
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: the way. So yeah, I had to refocus and really

712
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: figure out what what is about me? What in my

713
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: life am I doing that's about me? Okay, hold that

714
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: thought one second. Let's pay some bills. Your husband, how

715
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: did you know that he was the one for you? Like?

716
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: What was it? Oh? Well, there were multiple things that

717
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: happened aspired to that right there. I even marry seven years,

718
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: seven years and together ten um. He the it was

719
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: just it was healing, that was one. Um. There were

720
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: dreams involved, um, like literal dreams, like I dreamt about

721
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: order unlike our second we weren't even dating yet, and

722
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh so listen, Um, I just dreamt

723
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: that about our daughter, and because I was like, that's

724
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not holding that by myself, right, um,

725
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: and he was just he is super sweet, super supportive, UM,

726
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: super creative. We don't always agree, you know, and we're

727
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: learning more and more how to communicate better with each other.

728
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: But the just the fact that he doesn't he doesn't

729
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: give up on that on the working towards us being together.

730
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: We're growing as individuals, but we are growing together. Um.

731
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: And that was apparent from the beginning. M yeah, m hm.

732
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: That's because anytime somebody asked me a about one of

733
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: these niggas, I'd be like, definitely blessed in that apartment

734
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: for real. So we have this segment on our show,

735
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: and we do it with everybody. Is called dumping stories,

736
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: right and basically I know. So we want you to

737
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: share with us a time in your life where you

738
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: might have got played, you were in a relationship where

739
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: he did some shipped to you that you didn't appreciate,

740
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: or you made some bad choices behind the man. Can

741
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: you share that with us in our listeners dumb bitch stories,

742
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once.

743
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Or twice. Oh my god, how long we got? You

744
00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: got you out? We're here. Um. The relationship I was

745
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: in before my husband was just a dumbish relationship. And

746
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: I was in that relationship for five years. So yeah, yeah,

747
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't right. He wasn't right. He was lying and

748
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: cheating and all the things, and I felt like I

749
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: had to be able to prove it in order for

750
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: it to be true. So one of the one of

751
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: the many things that I learned from that relationship is

752
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: you know what you know. You don't gotta prove it.

753
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: You don't gotta come up with the physical evidence. That's it.

754
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of us will do. We

755
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: have to find some ship, all right. But I was

756
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: a girl. I was in this relationship, and that's where

757
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: every time that man left the house, I was under

758
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: the bed, I was in the closet. I was looking like,

759
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find what you're doing, and I was myself,

760
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: exactly what you want to do, so I can see

761
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: what you rather do. I'm not going through your ship

762
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: because it's gonna knock on the front door. And a

763
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: couple of times literally knock on the front door. Right right, No, girl,

764
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: I turned into expect your motherfucking gadget as soon as

765
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: that left. And the crazy thing is when you do

766
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: find what you're looking for, you like no making all

767
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: kinds of excuses like let that man cheat in peace

768
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: and you ain't ready to leave. That's what I believe it.

769
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: When I'm ready to leave, I'm going through all your

770
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: ship until you're ready to leave. This is why I'm leaving.

771
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: So okay, we'll last thing, all right. One piece of

772
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: advice that you would give to young black people who

773
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: are interested, especially women interested in becoming an actor, what

774
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: would you tell them? It's not easy, so don't think

775
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: that it is. Do not. It just doesn't happen overnight.

776
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: So people hit me up all the time, you know,

777
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: asking me can I hook them up the snowfall, and

778
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work like that, Like, hey, I don't

779
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: know you, and I don't know what you can do,

780
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: and even if you are the most talented person in

781
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: the world, it just doesn't work like that. Um it

782
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it oftentimes takes years and years and years of

783
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: pounding the pavement to make it happen. And that's okay.

784
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: It is the rare occasion where somebody gets hits overnight

785
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: like fresh out of school or fresh off the whatever. Um,

786
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: So don't let the fact that it's taking a long

787
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: time UM deter you discourage you because what you should

788
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: be doing while things are not going the way you

789
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: want them to go, is be paying attention to you.

790
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Are you living the life that you want to live,

791
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: because your life is going to um inform your career.

792
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants an actor who is you know for

793
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: all of us, like theater kids out there, who is

794
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: just acting? Like? No, you gotta have like hobbies and

795
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: things that you like to do, and and it's important

796
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: to do that not only so that you can talk

797
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: to people, but so that you're not sitting around waiting

798
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: on your phone ring because that ship would drive you crazy. Right.

799
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: And then if you're not a theater kid or a

800
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: theater nerd, but you still want to act, just what

801
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: are you doing? Just live your life? You gotta and

802
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: but go hard, you know what I mean, Like it's

803
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: a it's a balance between between the two. Um, go

804
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: hard because this is not easy. And it's a lot

805
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: of people who say that they're actors who are not

806
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: really doing nothing, you know. Um yeah, So don't don't

807
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: even if you're audition given, if your auditions. I have

808
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: a friend, like you know, she had some some gigs now,

809
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: but for a long while she was just getting a

810
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: lot of knows. I wouldn't take that. I wouldn't take

811
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: like her not being a an actress from her, but

812
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: she was getting no for about five years. No, yes,

813
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: nose doesn't mean that you're not an actors. I mean

814
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: there are some people who are who say that they're

815
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: an actress, but they're not going forward. They're not auditioning,

816
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: they're not in class, they're not doing nothing, just talking

817
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: about dying actor and it's like, but no, you're not

818
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: not really, you know that's the only acting you're doing. Yes,

819
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, man, We really

820
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: really super appreciated. We can't wait to watch you on

821
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: this happen and I know I hope you'll be tearing

822
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: it up again. I know you're gonna be tearing it up. Yeah, wow, y'all.

823
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm excited for y'all to so um. Okay, tell everybody

824
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: where to find you when the show errors everything? Yeah,

825
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: so um. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter

826
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: at love Angela Louis l U v Angela Lewis l

827
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: E W I S And yeah, that's that's where I

828
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: am most of the time. It snowfall. Wednesday is back, y'all. Y'all,

829
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: just you need to be with my joint and my burger.

830
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: I gotta binge watch it before it comes out next

831
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: week so I can know what the hell is going on.

832
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't watch t V. I to watch the last

833
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: season over just to be, you know, remember everything that happens,

834
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: so I can read. Thank you, girl, we appreciate you.

835
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Come back and see us. Okay, okay, we'll do all right.

836
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: So now I guess I gotta binge watch TV. That

837
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: should do. Girl, you're missing out on. This show is

838
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: so good, so entertaining. I don't know. I watched the

839
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: last episode. Well watch all the rest of them. Please

840
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: please go back and start from the beginning. It's hard, man.

841
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: Once the ship is out there, it's like I gotta

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Speaker 1: watch three years worth of TV. It's not three years.

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Speaker 1: It will take you a weekend to catch up. It's

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Speaker 1: three years, girl, watch that ship. It's so good. Yeall.

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Speaker 1: So if you didn't watch, this was prerecorded, but if

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Speaker 1: you haven't watched it, it came out last night, So

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Speaker 1: y'all tune in. The Snowfall is a really good show.

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Speaker 1: And Louis is dope on the show and dope as

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Speaker 1: the character, So y'all tune into her. Please, dope on

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Speaker 1: the show and dope as the character. I mean she

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Speaker 1: dope in person. She's dope as herself and dope as

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Speaker 1: on Louis. That's what I mean. All Right, y'all listen.

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Speaker 1: So if you enjoyed this episode, please tune in every

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Speaker 1: Thursday on the I Heart Radio app or wherever the

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Speaker 1: fuck you get your podcast at. This is aj holiday

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Speaker 1: two point oh. Follow me on instagrams and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening weekly. And it's official tam bam

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, so remember ladies speak now and

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