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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done, yep's the world.

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Speaker 3: They just want to show the Breakfast Club Charlamagne to God,

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Speaker 3: well DJ Envy just hilarious and Charlomagne the God and

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Speaker 3: be not here right now. But Laura Learro say, is

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Speaker 3: we got a special guest in the building. I've been

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Speaker 3: watching this dude freestyling cars for.

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Speaker 2: A long time.

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Speaker 3: Beyonta, what's happening to my brother on the road to

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Speaker 3: a one hundred thousand? You're trying to tell one hundred

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Speaker 3: thousands of these things? Not even trying.

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Speaker 4: It's done.

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Speaker 2: Speaking and now speaking.

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Speaker 1: Of that's fire.

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Speaker 3: The name of the album, Junkie in the Sun, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: how long have you been an atticant?

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Speaker 2: What can we do to help you? Look?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad I'm clean. Here, I'm saying, we're just

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Speaker 5: trying to do the best that we can get you

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Speaker 5: feel me, But not for real. Junk in the Sun

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Speaker 5: it has a different meaning. It's not necessarily about me

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Speaker 5: being on drugs, even though I had my fair share on.

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Speaker 4: The drugs more mos no, none of that.

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Speaker 5: But it's about all of us being junkies in our

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Speaker 5: own like respective way.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: We all got stuff that we were shamed about, that

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Speaker 5: we embarrassed about, whatever whatever. But God, God don't really

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Speaker 5: turn God's light from us, you know. I mean, like

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Speaker 5: we junkies on our own way, we're the junkies. God

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Speaker 5: is the sun, you feel me. But God's sunlight don't

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Speaker 5: never stop shining, know you, No matter what you got

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Speaker 5: going on, no matter what you are, exactly what you

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Speaker 5: embarrassed about, whatever you were shamed about, whatever the case,

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Speaker 5: God still shine God's light on you.

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Speaker 2: You feel me? So? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: In the cover, you did the cover yourself?

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Speaker 4: No head, No, I got my best friend actually did

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Speaker 4: the cover.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 4: Your name is Jay.

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Speaker 5: If you need any commissions or anything like that, she

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Speaker 5: got you about to say, you can find on by J.

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Speaker 4: That's b y j A I y E on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: What made you want to get off?

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Speaker 3: Like leave leave leave the drug law though even even

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Speaker 3: for recreational purpose.

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Speaker 4: Being a father, I.

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Speaker 5: Think kind of like took me away from I stopped

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Speaker 5: smoking when my son was born. I did, Uh, this

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Speaker 5: is probably two years ago, and I came home and

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Speaker 5: picked him up in his eyes like buzzing out of

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Speaker 5: his head, Threwhimcross was like, I gotta stop.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, scared as hell right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you about to say trying to start drinking too,

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Speaker 5: that's next. I got back from Vegas when I did

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Speaker 5: for my basket part, I'm getting.

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Speaker 4: Married this ship. Congratulations, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's when your life gonna really change.

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Speaker 4: I believe I'm excited about it things at one time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, do you feel like it never helped your creative

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Speaker 6: process when you know what the drugs, the shrooms that

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Speaker 6: you know not for sure drink all.

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Speaker 4: Just just different parts of life for show.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm trying to figure out or trying to

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Speaker 5: find out how to not necessarily rely on whether it

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Speaker 5: be pain or whether it be.

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Speaker 4: Just darkness or substances in general.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I can be happy and still too

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Speaker 5: or I can be living my regular degular life and

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Speaker 5: still create this inspiration all around, whether you're on some

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Speaker 5: super clicked the ship, the birds, the bees, the sounds

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Speaker 5: of the wind, whatever the case, it's inspiration around.

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Speaker 1: So you never needed any of those.

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Speaker 6: They've never served as vices, like you've never needed any

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Speaker 5: Rap, No, not in the sense of needed them. So

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Speaker 5: they helped and they did what they did the show,

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Speaker 5: but nah, never needed.

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Speaker 1: So this is sober album junkin Son.

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Speaker 5: Yeah saw this one everything drinking a little bit, drinking

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Speaker 5: a little bit on this one I.

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Speaker 2: Saw.

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Speaker 7: Kelly Rowland says she's been sober for a year and hers, yeah,

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Speaker 7: hers was because of like she's wanted to be like

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Speaker 7: healthy and like, you know, just wake up better. Geors

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Speaker 7: is just solely because you're about to be marrying you

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Speaker 7: and be like what what sparked the I don't want

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Speaker 7: to drink no more?

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Speaker 5: No, I think that not one to drink no more

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Speaker 5: is just getting older. It's hurt now. She said that

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Speaker 5: I was drinking. I went to a school called Georgia Southern.

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Speaker 5: I want nothing to do but drink. I was drinking

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Speaker 5: ever clear for like four years. Damn exactly a liveing

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Speaker 7: At this point isn't ever clear the right.

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Speaker 2: Swallow it.

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Speaker 7: When I first out on campus, you had to do

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Speaker 7: a shot at that to be initiated into the thirsty Thursdays.

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Speaker 4: That's somebody definitely made us in the bath.

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Speaker 3: Terrible but you thinks like about your music, man, and

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Speaker 3: just the way you wrap, You've always sounded like you're

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Speaker 3: having a conversation with yourself.

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Speaker 2: What question are you still trying to answer through your

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Speaker 2: art and and and that junkies son is man.

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Speaker 5: I think I've always been trying to figure out, like

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Speaker 5: whether that's just as a person I think I got.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say a lot of trump I

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Speaker 5: don't want to do the wholest poetic.

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of trauma. You got a lot

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Speaker 5: We are people and we all got we deal with whatever,

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Speaker 5: and it's uh turned us into who we are today.

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Speaker 5: But I'm trying to figure out how to how to

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Speaker 5: able to work through these things. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: I look at myself as like a product of my productivity.

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Speaker 5: You feel me, It's like, all right, cool, if I'm working,

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Speaker 5: if I'm doing my thing, I don't feel guilty if

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Speaker 5: I can stop and just breathe. I feel guilty about that. Yeah, mean,

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Speaker 5: I feel guilty about not doing certain things. So it's like,

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Speaker 5: my work. I'm not my work. And then even when

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Speaker 5: my mama introduced me before we had my son, before

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Speaker 5: it's my son the rapper. Now she introduced me, is

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Speaker 5: this my son? He's Auto's dad, that's my son's name.

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Speaker 5: It's like, Damn, I had a whole little uh. It's

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Speaker 5: of these things that I do or outside of all

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Speaker 4: And I still ain't figured that out yet. So I'm

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Speaker 5: I don't think of some shit that you just know for.

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Speaker 5: It's a lifelong things.

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Speaker 6: For because you're going into the era of dad and

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Speaker 6: husband now it's about to be a whole new phase.

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Speaker 2: You about to be even more confused. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with that. I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: I'm forty eight years old, four kids. Every single child

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Speaker 3: has taught me something different, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like being a father, being a husband teaches you something different.

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Speaker 3: And every day I wake up, honestly, just open to learn,

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Speaker 3: because if you think you know it all, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: if you think you know how it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, our kids is crazy. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if we're running it back. Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: Anybody to get married, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You d it up over here?

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Speaker 7: Is it just like a lot for you to get

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Speaker 5: Like what yeah lifestyle ties for show and you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, once we get past once my son

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Speaker 5: turns like six, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Going back to pampers for anybody.

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Speaker 5: So that my oldest not putting another baby in no pamps. Listen,

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Speaker 5: I was in wild mind. My son shut up his back.

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Speaker 5: I'm never going to.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to parent head. That's just what that is.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's fine. How old is he fo?

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Speaker 3: My oldest eighteen, my second oldest ten, and then I

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Speaker 4: So that's a crazy ass eight years. That's how me

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Speaker 4: had years Part two, all of us older, younger, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: He younger, okay, okay, he came out with the Mustags.

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Speaker 6: So you've been rapping since you were twelve. Sure, you

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Speaker 6: dropped your first mixtape in college and then your first

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Speaker 6: Years, right, What keeps you like still fresh with it today?

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Speaker 6: Like you like, what keeps you going? Like that's that's

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Speaker 6: ten years. No, that's not like a whole lot compared

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Speaker 6: to like other people. But it's like you've been known

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Speaker 6: what keeps it?

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Speaker 5: Always has shit to talk about, Like always y'all gonna

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Speaker 5: say some crazy shit, Donald Trump gonna do some crazy shit, whatever,

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Speaker 5: to go back to the birds and the wind, and

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Speaker 5: it's always something to pull it from, you mean, and

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Speaker 5: just trying to get better, like I feel like so,

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Speaker 5: like I said, like you said, I've been rapping since

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Speaker 5: I was twelve, but I've had all of these moments

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Speaker 5: where it felt like things were finally gonna be actualized.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna arrive in that sense, And every time

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Speaker 5: it was something that just like took it away. I

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Speaker 5: dropped my debut album and the COVID happened. It's like

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Speaker 5: Or Black, all of that, and like, all of that

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Speaker 5: it came time, it's like, we don't finally put out

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Speaker 5: our project, we from the headline on to it.

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Speaker 4: The whole world shit down.

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Speaker 5: Cool that happened. We was just talking about in the

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Speaker 5: green room. We put out another record, card Wide Open.

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Speaker 5: It's at the time when gold Link kind of just

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Speaker 5: blew up the Crew joint. But then right after that

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Speaker 5: he said the crazy shit about Mac Miller and that

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Speaker 5: kind of didn't get a chance to go house. It's

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Speaker 5: always been something like that time wise, and it's like

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out what it looks like on

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Speaker 5: the other side of that. For one, and too, there's

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Speaker 5: there's a validation involved as well, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: whether I like to admit it or not, external and

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Speaker 6: You know what, I mean, so you feel like you're

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Speaker 6: still trying to break that barrier to mainstream.

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I said it's different now, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. Everything fractured like a mug out the audiences

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Speaker 6: Anyway, So when your uncle Marlin, who is uh the

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Speaker 6: Anymore, but he contributed to in some type of ways.

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Speaker 5: To say, I don't even think he knew like everything

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Speaker 3: And you rap about faith without sounding preachy, right, It

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Speaker 5: I think I've been figuring it out, Like it ain't

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out what my walk looks like.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've had the little mini psycoasts where I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was almost there.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if I actually thought about God

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Speaker 5: I got my little brother, I got my fault with me,

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Speaker 4: But you ain't never had a bad day. You can't beat.

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Speaker 5: All of us have been through some ship. We came

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Speaker 4: And it's like that ship. Don't always feel like this

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Speaker 5: That is another way to think of it, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, there's a story about the sun and the wind, right,

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Speaker 3: But but it's just saying to be the sun, you

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Speaker 3: It got to the point where he just didn't want

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Speaker 7: That, what the sun was, and then he started the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm trying to make him feel like but a junkie,

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Speaker 5: That isn't a drug? Look was something about earlier. I

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Speaker 3: And yeah, understand, I guess that's why I asked you,

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Speaker 5: You know?

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00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 2: Now?

444
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 4: So I think that's the that's the substance for sure.

445
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 5: God is going to set me no matter what I

446
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 5: got going on, whether I get the validation where I

447
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 5: never make it, whether it's the last interview I do,

448
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 5: whatever the case, like that light is still gonna be there.

449
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 4: God is always still gonna be there.

450
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 5: Whatever problems that I'm dealing with, the external stuff, the embarrassment, shame, guilt,

451
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 5: whatever it is, or the good stuff, I mean, any

452
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 5: of it, over indulgence, whatever the case, God's still gonna

453
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 5: be there.

454
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 3: So the sun is son has always got. You got

455
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: the song Heaven on Earth It closes out the album.

456
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 3: What does Heaven on Earth looked like to Deontay Hitchcock?

457
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 5: Peace for sure, like peace of mind overthink a lot

458
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 5: of things, and I think I'm trying to get to

459
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 5: the point where it's just like I can exist now,

460
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 5: you know, what I mean, and I'm not thinking about

461
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 5: two years from now. I'm not thinking about a man,

462
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 5: what I got to do to say, these hundred thousand albums,

463
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 5: How we're gonna get my son through school, how we're

464
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 5: gonna pay for the wind woo. It's like right now,

465
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 5: it's like I prayed for this moment. Ten years ago

466
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 5: you would call me. My mom used to play kickball.

467
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 5: It was a kickball tournament. That's when you called me.

468
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 4: I was like, this shit is crazy. I got to

469
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 4: get to the bridge.

470
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 5: Club one day, and now we hear ten years from now,

471
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: I mean ten years from there, and I prayed for that.

472
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 5: So it's like, dang, ten years ago, that's what I

473
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 5: was looking forward to, and now I'm here and I'm

474
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 5: still looking forward to something else. Like how do I

475
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 5: get to the point It's like I'm I don't want

476
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 5: to say content because I hate the word content, but

477
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 5: just happy with what I got going on at this

478
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 5: prison moment.

479
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: That's what I want.

480
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 7: Is there is like because I can identify what your

481
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 7: feeling of like because when I listen to I just

482
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 7: want to it seems like, you know, there's all these

483
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 7: ones and then things like flip like right, And I

484
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 7: always ask myself, like the things that I want when

485
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 7: I get them and changes, Like you said, so do

486
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 7: they like are once really a thing? Or is that

487
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 7: something that we're telling ourselves? Like what's wrong with being

488
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 7: content and knowing that? Like your content is just a

489
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 7: feeling of peace, but there will always be more things

490
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 7: that you need to do, Like why do we fight

491
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 7: back against a piece of being content? Like I don't

492
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 7: know if that makes sense to y'all, but nah.

493
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 5: For sure it does. I think it's how it's been

494
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 5: talk to us. In a sense, Content to me feels

495
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 5: like stagnationals like I stop here.

496
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 7: But you know yourself and you know your work, right,

497
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 7: So it's like you know that if you get to

498
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 7: a point where you accomplish something just who you are

499
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 7: and how you are about your craft, there's going to

500
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 7: be other things that the universe naturally just says, Hey,

501
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 7: now we got to walk into this, So why do

502
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 7: we fight against It's like the surviving versus living conversation,

503
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,239
Speaker 7: Like we love to like say I want to live,

504
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 7: I don't want to survive, but when we get out

505
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 7: of survival mode, you find your way right back to it.

506
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 5: Like because I don't think we know, or some of

507
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 5: us might. I'm not gonna speak for everybody, but in

508
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 5: my head it may change. It's like I know today

509
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 5: and to mom like, damn, well, if I stop, they gonna.

510
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: Love me type right.

511
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: Steph Curry Win had the best season ever and then

512
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 5: he didn't play the next year.

513
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: How long do we talk about Steph Currey?

514
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: Like?

515
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 4: How long does that last?

516
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 5: I mean, they're the greatest team ever until somebody passes that.

517
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 5: Then it's like I got to get back in and

518
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 5: re establish myself. They got to remember my name, whatever

519
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 5: the case. But I sat down for this project. I

520
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 5: sat down for like four years and I wrote a

521
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 5: verse every single day, Like every day. I had a

522
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 5: group chat with UT familiar with Marco plus love Ruben Vincent,

523
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 5: loved Chris Patrick.

524
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 6: You know, don't for nobody, but out.

525
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 5: Of them, uh jump against for sorry reason, ray Von

526
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: Citie Hendricks.

527
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 4: That's all one group Chat's all one group cha what'd

528
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: y'all be in?

529
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 7: I know them paradrasts, crazy audio notes, Ben Riley Rally.

530
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: Was Incash wasn't and RP to the group chat. Now

531
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 5: it's it's always some some other ship happened. But that

532
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 5: same Yeah, who's in there for like two years?

533
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 7: Somebody the group chat.

534
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: I think they still got that. I don't know if

535
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: you want.

536
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 5: I wasn't the cause of the plos. Now that's the

537
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 5: new one. Yeah, that got I'm looking forward to the

538
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 5: project too. I mean, yeah, I just talked to her

539
00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: last week. What it I don't know, crazy ye way

540
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: working yeah, yeah, writing a song, writing a verse every

541
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: single day. It was just in there on some iron

542
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 5: shopping iron type shit. Everybody working, trying to get better.

543
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 5: But yeah, I had to do that to get to

544
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: a place to drop something like this.

545
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 4: I mean like and it. I think it kind of

546
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: allowed me to feel free in a sense.

547
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 2: All Right.

548
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 5: So I used to go to the studio probably like

549
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 5: once every two weeks, type a you're gonna do something that, uh,

550
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 5: it's not that often. So every time I got go in,

551
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 5: it gotta be perfect. I gotta make a hit, I

552
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 5: gotta make the best song I've ever made, type of ays.

553
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: But this allowed me to just like whatever funk I

554
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 5: wanted to. It's like, this song ain't gotta be perfect

555
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 5: because I'm coming back tomorrow and I mean I'm gonna

556
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: do this again seven times.

557
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 4: This week type of app So this could be trash.

558
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: Y'all ain't gonna never hear it's never gonna see the

559
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 5: light of to day.

560
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how we ended up.

561
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 6: So the four years that you sat down, you never

562
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 6: said like because you was dropping music every year for sure,

563
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 6: like since twenty fifteen eighteen, you know what I mean? Like,

564
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 6: did you ever say, like, I have a get discouraged

565
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 6: where you're like, damn if I take too much time off,

566
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 6: is it gonna dan?

567
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on the summer on somewhere else.

568
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 5: Look, if Burger can't stop making burgers, you're gonna find

569
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 5: a burger, yes, right, from somewhere You're gonna eat.

570
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

571
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: That's the same thing with music. Like if if Cold

572
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: stop today, somebody gonna come up and takes place. Somebody's

573
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 5: gonna fill that gap of whatever you got from Cold,

574
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 5: whatever you get from Kendrick, whatever you get from whatever artist,

575
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 5: somebody's gonna feel that gap. You're gonna find it from somewhere.

576
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 5: So it's that sense, it's like, man, it's out there.

577
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: I feel like we all just sharing ideas from the

578
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: ether or whatever case. If it don't come out through me,

579
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 5: god gonna give it to somebody else and then you're

580
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 5: gonna get it.

581
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 6: Did you see the movie Michael, Yeah, the pressure when

582
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 6: you say that, it was like, I just gotta I

583
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 6: gotta get all this creativeness scored.

584
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: God is gonna give it the price, you know what

585
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

586
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a song called Smile You're on camera?

587
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that up? Man? These damn phones, man, damn phone.

588
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: Mama was right.

589
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 5: I feel like we're in a place where you see

590
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 5: everything from everybody.

591
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: I mean.

592
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like there's too much access now.

593
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: I mean from the perception point and from the US

594
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 5: looking at other people joint like we've never had this

595
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: much access to anything, and like we're not supposed to. Yeah,

596
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 5: that s it ain't good for our brains. So that's

597
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: basically like my take on the state of social media

598
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: ship anxiety, what it's doing to our brains.

599
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

600
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 7: Man, that's where you're asking if you matter outside your work.

601
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I tell you, if you don't see it,

603
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: did it happen?

604
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: I wrote?

605
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: I wrote them for them verses for four years. But

606
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 5: if I don't come on here and say that, if

607
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 5: you don't see this project doesn't matter.

608
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: M hmm.

609
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: That's an interesting way to look at it. Right, Do

610
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: I matter outside of my work? Because the reality.

611
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: Is not the most of them because on social media,

612
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: because they don't know you. Why would you.

613
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Matter outside of your work. I was introduced to you

614
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: wrapping in a car. That's what I want them bars.

615
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: I don't need nothing else from it.

616
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 5: But if I'm in a field where literally, like my

617
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: my financial situation is determined by what people see and

618
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 5: how I feel about me, that creates this weird construct

619
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: because like it does matter in that sense for me

620
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 5: to be able to take care of my son and

621
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: take care of myself, y'all have to perceive me in

622
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 5: a certain way because I got to say, it's my album.

623
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: That's the same shit. Man, Like, do you.

624
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: Think social media has turned all of us into performers

625
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: instead of people?

626
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 6: Right?

627
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

628
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 5: I mean I do think that we still are people

629
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 5: underneath it all, but it's very hard to like turn

630
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: it off. We'll be on this shit out day and

631
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: we see people performing all day. And granted, I think

632
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: we're in a place now where people are starting to

633
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: see like the effects of it and are starting to

634
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 5: try to like intentionally go back and just beat themselves.

635
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 5: But even that feels like performance in a sense. Damn

636
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: trying to do that now, Like so, I don't know

637
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: where it starts. Somewhere it is I personally can't stand.

638
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: I can look at people and tell when they perform it, and.

639
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: That ship drives me fucking crazy, especially people you know.

640
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: Like when you know them, like you like that crazy.

641
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: You're telling me about the holes yesterday.

642
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: Get somebody caught up? Man?

643
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 6: Yes man, I was growing up in Riverdale, right, you

644
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: were studying young the outcasts. That's too totally different, uh

645
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 6: really to me? You know what, what did you take

646
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 6: from both of them? Like both of them, you know,

647
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 6: outcasts and young the in terms of how you approach

648
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 6: your sound.

649
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 5: There's a fearlesseni stuf I think for both six you mean,

650
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: theod came out like.

651
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: They name in the book everything.

652
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 5: It was like bra just took that ship to the chain,

653
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: he put on the dress, he came out, had the

654
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: fingerpaint on his nails. And at the time I didn't

655
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 5: understand it for sure. I was amongst the people who

656
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: was kind of like scratching my head confused. But there's

657
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: something there's something to respect about somebody who just don't care.

658
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you also heard the stories.

659
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm from it probably heard more stories than that.

660
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: He's definitely more than me.

661
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 7: Yeah the book, I said, you're from down there, you

662
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 7: know what.

663
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: But I love what you like. The fearlessness though and

664
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 6: being different, thinking outside the box. You know, they definitely stand.

665
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 5: Out said cast the same way. Especially you know what

666
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I hate when folks like separate the two.

667
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: But since we're talking about the like it clickted e

668
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: colictic type of style. Dre is what I look at

669
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: on that side of the coin. But at the same time,

670
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: there's something to say about Big Boy because he tethered

671
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: them to the world at the same time, like Dre,

672
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: Dre was like ichorous to me. He flew super close

673
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: to the sun, but he had somebody to keep him grounded.

674
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean.

675
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 5: At the same time, Drey couldn't do outcast by himself.

676
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: Folks when they accepted it, folks whould have treated him

677
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: how they treated thug and they would have been completely different.

678
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: In the nineties, they would have shown them. The would

679
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: have out and whatever the case, big boys still kevi it.

680
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: He kept the flave that was accepted. Then the pimp

681
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 5: flood playing flag the real I mean grittiness. He bout

682
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: the gridness in the edge the cast, while dra gave

683
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: the alien five. I mean they both worked in the

684
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: duality type of sense.

685
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: Those are great observations. Dre also he he evolved into

686
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: that he didn't just come out and give us that.

687
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Once we got the at Aliens,

688
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: we started to see.

689
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: Things started to change a little on the shoulder pads.

690
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

691
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: So I get what you're saying this. You're also very

692
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: spot on, because I don't know if people know. Hundred

693
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: V thousand wanted the executive produce Dogs Autumn.

694
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I said to two piece of Park.

695
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: Because I feel like we got I mean, Doug has

696
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 7: always been very like who he is, but I feel

697
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 7: like there's definitely an evolution of him too, as he

698
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 7: went from like an artist to like a pop star,

699
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 7: like a rock and like a like rock and roll,

700
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 7: but like still a rapper. Yeah, but it was like you,

701
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 7: there was an energy and a lifestyle that went with

702
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 7: all of the things that he was he was doing.

703
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, love the man, love our cast.

704
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: Atlanta's really the greatest place musically, and I know in

705
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: New York, you know, disrespector you mean.

706
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: The Mecca, but I'm from South Carolina.

707
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta's different.

708
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean Atlanta's run has been longer too.

709
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: In fact, Atlanta has had the longest run of any

710
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: hip hop city ever ever.

711
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: A thousand, two thousand, two, two thousand and three.

712
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: I'll go before that. I start with yeah, I start

713
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: with casting good mo.

714
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 6: And then also it's a lot of artists that was

715
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: migrating to and been migrating to Atlanta just for music.

716
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Like we had too Short up here, and he was

717
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: telling us.

718
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 6: About when back in the day, how he came from

719
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 6: West Coast to Atlanta and like was mixing with you know,

720
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 6: Goodie Mob and just all you know, doing all of that.

721
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 6: Like you had artists from New York migrating, you know,

722
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 6: they don't really stay, you know, but they come down

723
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 6: and people like people love Atlanta musically.

724
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Is it is definitely home.

725
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: It's just a beautiful place.

726
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 7: So many different genres, many different Do you feel like

727
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 7: people are the people that are on the on the

728
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 7: Atlanta underground scene right now? Do you feel like there's

729
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 7: like a pathway for y'all to kind of do what

730
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: like the hundred ty thousands of the world, like come

731
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 7: make it to the mainstream where people really respect, or

732
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 7: do you think that it's only going to stay underground

733
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 7: because they love the Internet? I mean, but there's some

734
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 7: of the artists there that I feel like they don't

735
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 7: care about that, Like they have their like click and

736
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 7: they love that, and I love that for them. But

737
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 7: I do think But you said, you know.

738
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: How many generations of people you skip that went from

739
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: underground to superstar?

740
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 7: I just used them because we were just talking about them.

741
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, Gucci the But but do you feel like this

742
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 9: what I'm asking I guess is do you feel like

743
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 9: the systems that like were I mean, I guess it

744
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 9: wasn't passed time from generation generation because each artist you

745
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 9: just nam had a different journey.

746
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: But sometimes it just feels like there's such a disconnect

747
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 7: because a lot of those artists they don't want to

748
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 7: deal with the labels, and if they do, they wanted

749
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 7: to be on their terms, which then changes how you

750
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 7: work in the artists, like even radio runs and like

751
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 7: it's it's just different now.

752
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: I think it goes back to what we were talking

753
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: about earlier about everything being more so tightlered to what

754
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: a specific person wants like niggas have lost trusting labels,

755
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like we need them as much anymore.

756
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: Systems kind of field archaic, if you will. So I

757
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: think that there is more than enough space for these

758
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: artists to like make decent livings and to live. But

759
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think the path to the

760
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: maindstream is as a it's just laid out in front

761
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 5: of you as it used to be.

762
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: Back then, it used to be.

763
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Signed to a label, the

764
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 5: label press the button, you drop a single, They pushed

765
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: the single go. It's not that anymore like it. It doesn't

766
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: even feel like labels can press that button anymore. It's

767
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 5: a whole I saw a song the other day. I

768
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: can't even remember who was by, but it was like

769
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 5: number one on urban radio, all these genres I've never.

770
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: Even never heard.

771
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: It's a whole nother world out there type shit. But yeah,

772
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 5: everything's just too fraction. People want what they want and

773
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: there's these little pockets of fandom now. So yeah, I

774
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 5: don't think it's the same.

775
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 6: When you had, you know, first sat down you were saying,

776
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: you know, like you still trying to break the barrier

777
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: to get the mainstream.

778
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: But you had a lot of big moments.

779
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: PTSD from the Revenge of the dream Of got you

780
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: a Grammy nomination, and it puts you at the Dreamville stage,

781
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 6: Like what you on the festival stage?

782
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: What did that moment do you for your career? How

783
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: did that make you feel?

784
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: It was crazy?

785
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 5: I so I got to a real dark place after

786
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: twenty twenty because that happened. I think that dropped twenty nineteen.

787
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 5: That drops twenty nineteen, and the album follows it, and

788
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, everything is kind of like in motion,

789
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: and then everything stops and it's like, damn, none of

790
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: it felt like it meant anything anymore. So I got

791
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: a real or had rather I look at it with

792
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 5: a lot more light now, but I had a real

793
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 5: bittersweet taste about it for a long time. She's like, damn,

794
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: this is these are all the things that I wanted

795
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: for so long, And then it just felt like it

796
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: turned the dust in my hands.

797
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: Like that was an amazing time.

798
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to see all these different artists

799
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 5: that I've grown up and been fan of when I

800
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: first got there the first day, who's in the studio

801
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: probably about as.

802
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: Big as this room. Cold right over there. I just

803
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 4: walked in I'm talking about cold and walked past. Ten

804
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: people came over dapped me up like bruh, I love

805
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: your shit. It was like, real, what is going on?

806
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 5: And addressed in a T shirt and some basketball short

807
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: like he just got through cutting the line.

808
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Every day every day.

809
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: But that ship felt amazing. We in one room.

810
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: It's like t I Ari Lennox, Swiss beats in one room,

811
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 5: Rick Ross, while A and JD in the next room.

812
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: Whatever the case was like bouncing around with all these

813
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 5: different crabs. So it was just it was a good

814
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: ass time.

815
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Power.

816
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about the relationship between money and power influence. Yeah,

817
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 3: which has which one has been more dangerous in your life?

818
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: The pursuit of paper or the power?

819
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think either free or for real.

820
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: I've I think I've done a good job of staying

821
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: pretty like grounded in that sense. I mean, because I'm

822
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: aware of all of these things, Like I know sometimes

823
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: I'm doing things out of a uh uh, I want

824
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 5: to say abusive power type ship or abuse of money,

825
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: but just knowing how this isn't like me.

826
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: Let me draw this back. Figure out why the fuck

827
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm doing this, whatever the case.

828
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: Like, I think awareness is most of the battle if

829
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: anything's like you gotta know that something's changing in you,

830
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: but that you're doing something to be able to fix it,

831
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 5: whatever the case. So I don't feel like I've really

832
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: had super issues with it. I think my biggest issue

833
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: with money is like attaching the same as my work, attaching.

834
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: My value to it.

835
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, if I don't have money in

836
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: this season, I'm fucked up. And you know what I'm saying,

837
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: I'm not myself, whatever the case. The same thing with working.

838
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 5: If I'm not working, I'm not myself type. I have

839
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: to figure how to get rid of that shit.

840
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: That's it.

841
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 6: So yeah, old real quick, all right, So what you

842
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: got better drop than twenty twenty?

843
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Right?

844
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: All right?

845
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 6: Cool? Yeah, right, so that was in the middle of

846
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 6: the pandemic. But I'm thinking about it, like everybody was home,

847
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 6: so niggas only had to watch TV and listen to music.

848
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 6: Now you're dropping junks in the sun now right where

849
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 6: we in a time where everything is oversaturated and it's like,

850
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: like you just said, labels probably can't even really press

851
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 6: that button.

852
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: It's all about and who knows what the fuck is

853
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: all about.

854
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: The Seller album actually really Mike Classics anymore one now,

855
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 6: the way it reaches everybody.

856
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: What you think the difference is, do you see any difference.

857
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: Putting out your project in twenty twenty versus you putting

858
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 6: out a project right now?

859
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 5: I think the ship the ship was so fared up

860
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty because nobody knew what to do. It

861
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 5: was such a shock when the world stopped. It was like,

862
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 5: all right, everything that I thought it was gonna alright.

863
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: So when I dropped the album, I was in talks

864
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: with the label about the tour.

865
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: We was talking about picking a.

866
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: Single, all of these things, like it was such a

867
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: runway that was already laid out. It's like the whole

868
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: plan just got thrown out. Yeah, So from there it

869
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: was like, damn, I'm just disoriented at that point where

870
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 5: I'm confused, I'm sad, I'm mad, anger out these things,

871
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: and I think from there I just kind of like

872
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 5: spiraled into this dark place for real, and nobody around

873
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: really knew what to do with you do? Yeah, I

874
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: mean I was in we were performing on couches at

875
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: these virtual shows, and shit, I'm ready to flip some

876
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: shit over man, like yeah, man, it was just yeah,

877
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: I think now is a better time.

878
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: How did you get out of that?

879
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: I think my son helped me for really.

880
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: I mean I was confused when he was born too,

881
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 5: because it was still was like this is another kind

882
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: of like life changing event happening at the same time.

883
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, just being the fallow doubt, I mean, the

884
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 5: passions that's required to learning. Just as much as I'm

885
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 5: teaching him, he teaching me every day. That was one

886
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 5: thing I remember specific he was two years old at

887
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: the time. He wanted like a popsicle at the fridge.

888
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 5: This might have been the first time I can remember

889
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: us telling him no about some shit.

890
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 4: We told him no and he tweaked out.

891
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking he losed his minds to the first time

892
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 5: f when we've really seen to this level, and it

893
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: was something it was like damn. At first, I was

894
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: a little anger and I was about to you know

895
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 5: what I'm saying referenmand that type of he get it together, yeah, yoda.

896
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 5: But something in my head was like, nah, this is

897
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: this is as serious as he's making it. This is

898
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: his first time experience and just not being able to

899
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: get this, this is his whole world shattering right now,

900
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: telling him know about this popsicle really is as serious

901
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 5: as he's And that allowed me to look back at

902
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: what I was going through because I kind of minimized

903
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 5: it to myself because it's like there's so many other

904
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: things going on, Folks dying, sick as hell, the world

905
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: may never open up, whatever the case. I'm thinking about

906
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: my problems like, yeah, this ain't as serious as I'm making.

907
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: I gotta suck this down. But I look back on

908
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: it like, Na, this is to me, it was as

909
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 5: serious as I'm making. I gotta allow myself to feel

910
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 5: that for the past.

911
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: Right.

912
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 5: That's why I think kids really just getting over stuff

913
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: so quick because they cry, they get the ship out

914
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: and they be like we're best friends getting but we

915
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: don't allow ourselves that same Like you mean, we don't cry,

916
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: We take it to the chain, We get up and

917
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: it's like another day coming to work.

918
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: I gotta get it in, gotta figure it out. So yeah,

919
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: it allowed me.

920
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: That when you when you were young, how would your

921
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: folks have replied to you if you if.

922
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: That was what.

923
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get you something to cry about, say, Hey,

924
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get you something to cry about, Like I

925
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 7: already got it.

926
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm already crying right now.

927
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: My grandma used to make me go down the street

928
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 4: switch switch right.

929
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: That's what made me think about like the cycle, right,

930
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: because it's about generational patterns. So what what's one cycle

931
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: in your family that that ends with you?

932
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: I think.

933
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: As as kids growing up at the time when we

934
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: grew up, we didn't really get as much of a

935
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: voice in our household.

936
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: Like I had to talk with my grandma, Oh, this is.

937
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 5: What this might be two years ago at this point

938
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: because me and me and my pops relationship, we're good now.

939
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting pasted a lot of the problems

940
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: that I had type of apps. But we had a

941
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: situation where I was talking to her about his parents

942
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: saying sorry to their kids type as. She was like, no,

943
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: she went rocking with it. She told me a story

944
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 5: about her folks that she stay with because my mom

945
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: actually passed, her parents passed, and she ended up staying with.

946
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: My aunt Johnny, my great great aunt Johnny.

947
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: She had had a situation where they used to shine

948
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 5: their shoes every day after school when they got home.

949
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 5: Apparently my I tea she bought the wrong cleaner, the

950
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: wrong shine or whatever it was, and my granny shined

951
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: her shoes, but they looked rusty, and so she came

952
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 5: and asked you, was like, why he ain't shining shoes

953
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 5: And my Grandma's like, yeah I did. She was like, nah,

954
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 5: you didn't whooped her. Yeah, they gotta come to find out.

955
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: She ended up finding the cleaner that she bought and

956
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 5: realized it was the wrong one, and my grandma saw

957
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 5: her find.

958
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: It, but she never apologized by it, never said.

959
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 5: Sorry about it or nothing. It was just like, yeah,

960
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 5: you just gotta hold that. And it's like, I want

961
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: my son to be able to see the full scope.

962
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 5: I want to be able to talk to Dad, mess

963
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 5: up to Mamma, gonna mess up to whatever the case like.

964
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 5: And we need to be able to apologize to you

965
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: because you're not just our child. You're a whole person.

966
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 5: You're a human being, and I want you to carry

967
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 5: that into every relationship that you.

968
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Deal with you.

969
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: I mean, whether you dealing with authority figures, whether you

970
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: in your own relationship, whether your relationship with your saf,

971
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: talk to yourself. I mean, so my child being vocal

972
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: is the cycle.

973
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: That is you know, it's so crazy that starts.

974
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, apologizing to your kids changes everything because, like I said,

975
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: what I told you, we're just humans, adults who make mistakes.

976
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: We ain't gonna always get it right as parents are

977
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: as husbands. Right, when you apologize to your kids, no

978
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: matter what the age is, you can feel the trust

979
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: that that between you and your.

980
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: Babies, and that's that's all we want, especially now, like

981
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: you got to be able to teach your kids.

982
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: Now that's too much going on.

983
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got to be able to talk to you.

984
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: I ain't even got to that point yet. I'm terrifying.

985
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: You got a boy, Yeah it's allowed to watch out

986
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: for and then but you know, growing how you growing up,

987
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 6: I mean how you grew up. Now, you just said,

988
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: you know you want your kid to be vocal, so

989
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 6: you promote that you're teach him that we also grew

990
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: up disciplined.

991
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: You know.

992
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of how we grew up

993
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 6: shapes who we are today in parents and relationships and

994
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 6: the business and whatever. And I feel like if you

995
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: give a kid too much where you let him express

996
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 6: himself no matter what he feeling, you know, you can

997
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: kind of still lose him because they'll turn on you

998
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 6: and they start talk some shit to you, and you

999
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: gotta go back to be like, damn, I got a

1000
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 6: tread in the yard, go pick a switch, you know

1001
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

1002
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: Like, it's like trying to find that balance. You can't

1003
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: let a kid.

1004
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, right, you know you don't

1005
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 6: want to be your kid's friend. You still want to

1006
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: open lead that door open for trust and you know,

1007
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: teach him things and raise him slightly different than how

1008
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: we were raised. What you still want because I feel

1009
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 6: like these kids don't have no discipline, they don't know

1010
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 6: how to respect. Uh, they don't even want to respect

1011
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: adults or you know, just the way of life. They

1012
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 6: don't really care, you know, they just crashing out and

1013
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 6: don't care.

1014
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: I just yeah, okay, okay, that's.

1015
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: What's up the song almost there, Right, A lot of

1016
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: people could relate to that. But do you ever worry

1017
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: that chasing almost keeps people from appreciating where they already are?

1018
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the contentment that we was talking about earlier,

1019
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 5: Like it's always something else to go and get, I

1020
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: is it?

1021
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? And in your head you're the show.

1022
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 5: It's always a bigger bag. It's always a batter woman.

1023
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: It's always like it's always something I mean and now

1024
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 5: we have there's no shortage of options on anything. You

1025
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: see everything, like you see the person who got million

1026
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 5: dollars that is just an influencer that stream. Whatever the case,

1027
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 5: I can go do this, I can whatever the case.

1028
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 5: Bro It's almost it's always an almost. I mean, that's

1029
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: why I'm trying to figure out how to be happy

1030
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: in the now, how to figure it out, bro because

1031
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 5: once I got that, brood be good.

1032
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: But I'm always chasing something because.

1033
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 3: I wondered about almost right, because sometimes I tell people

1034
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: all the time, man, you got to appreciate what you

1035
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: have in order for God to bless you with more.

1036
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: And if God has blessed you, but you haven't even

1037
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: acknowledged what you've got, but you like, I'm almost there,

1038
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: gotledge me almost.

1039
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Like me like.

1040
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: Nothing but no, that's really real, like but it's it's

1041
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: not even but because I don't want to refuse anything

1042
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 5: you said. At times, it just feels like it's hard

1043
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: to not think about tomorrow versus staying in today, like

1044
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: literally right now, I'm in here right now thinking.

1045
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 4: Like I gotta figure out how to promote this album.

1046
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: So fos to go by and it's like not in

1047
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: New York on some music shit real, like it got

1048
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: flew out like a bad bitch.

1049
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: To be here to talk about music. I've been doing

1050
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: this since I was twelve, twelve for free. I would

1051
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 4: still do it for free.

1052
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 5: But now I think I'm saying, as you get older,

1053
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: there's so many other things that are tied to you.

1054
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you got four kids, It's all right. I

1055
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 5: can't even just worry about my happiness.

1056
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 6: Now.

1057
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: I gotta figure out how to feed and make sure

1058
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 5: my kids a happy What does that look like? I

1059
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 5: gotta come to work, Oh man, working enough now? Now

1060
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 5: I gotta go start another business whatever. Case like, It's

1061
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 5: so many things that you got to think of once

1062
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 5: you tie yourself to other people, whether it be a partner,

1063
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: whether it be a kid, whether it be a team,

1064
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: Anybody's like other people are now depending on me beyond

1065
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 5: my happiness, you know what I mean.

1066
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, I always feel like, you know, like just

1067
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 6: to echo with Sharlot was saying, like, I feel like

1068
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 6: a person on the outside looking and it's always easier

1069
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 6: for somebody else to see your success, right, because you

1070
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: toured with all of these amazing people while a black

1071
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 6: Jed dinner, you know, all them before you even had

1072
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 6: an album out, Like you were learning how to perform,

1073
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 6: before you even had a whole catalog a body of.

1074
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Music, you know. So I mean, you know, just to

1075
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: hear you say and be like almost almost.

1076
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 6: Something like you didn't you were there, like you did

1077
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 6: all of this right and then now hopefully I hope

1078
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 6: a tour is coming down the pipeline for junkies in

1079
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: the sun you want to already be quick with and

1080
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: you've been.

1081
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Doing this shit for a while.

1082
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 6: It's just gonna be just another layer of success on

1083
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 6: top of what you already got going on.

1084
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, is there a certain age where you get okay

1085
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 7: with content? Not content in a bad way, but.

1086
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: Okay but content.

1087
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 7: No, because the almost there and the almost I understand

1088
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 7: what he's saying, but I'm thinking about like like I'm

1089
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 7: watching you and I know where you're building from. But

1090
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 7: then I'm thinking about like you and I always look

1091
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 7: at you and I'm like, you just are so like

1092
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 7: happy with what's happening right now, but all this other stuff happens.

1093
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 7: Is that because you're older than us, or like, when.

1094
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Did that guy?

1095
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: Because I don't feel like I'm almost nowhere. I'm here.

1096
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: I'm right where God wants me. That's what I want

1097
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: to be.

1098
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was literally just sitting here and thinking about

1099
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 7: the two of y'all. For some reason.

1100
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm right where God wants me to be,

1101
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: and I am extremely grateful for where God has me,

1102
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: and I'm good.

1103
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm good with that now. Is there are other things

1104
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: like would like to do?

1105
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: Sure, but if it don't happen, thank you God, thank you,

1106
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: Thank you for.

1107
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: What you've done thus far. I did it.

1108
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 7: You've always been like that.

1109
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but I know I'm

1110
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: here now.

1111
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 4: But is there a particular catalyst that you think got

1112
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: you there? Or did it just did you.

1113
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Give us the sauce?

1114
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1115
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 7: Because that mentally really messages you up, Like especially when

1116
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 7: you're young and you're achieving, and you just gotta feel

1117
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 7: like you keep achieving, keep achieve, and keep achieving, like

1118
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 7: it's like almost your identity to achieve. You don't know

1119
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 7: what else to do.

1120
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: I think professionally, if that's what we're talking about. Professionally,

1121
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: what I wanted was to be a nationally syndicated radio

1122
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: radio host. Like that's what I wanted, Like, that's literally

1123
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: what I wanted when I used to hear Tom Join

1124
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: in the Morning and Doug Banks. I'm like, I wanted

1125
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 3: to be that, and so everything else has been gravy.

1126
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: You know, literally everything else been gravy. The books, whatever,

1127
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: the podcast that where all.

1128
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Of that has just been great from my perspective of it.

1129
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: Watching Charlotte, I feel like when he started talking about

1130
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 6: getting help for like his mental health and everything like that,

1131
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: I felt like, Okay, that's when that allowed people to

1132
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 6: see more than just Charlemagne. We started knowing who Leonard

1133
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 6: was or Leonard you know how he said. But I'm like,

1134
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 6: oh damn, you know he was dealing with things or

1135
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 6: whatever and just didn't know how to navigate whatever that was, like,

1136
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: you know, whether it was grief or just like things

1137
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 6: he felt like he had to work through. And then

1138
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 6: I felt like it made other people like start looking

1139
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 6: more into like, oh shit, what else and appreciating him

1140
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 6: for what he does and like what else can he do?

1141
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: Oh shit, So if it's something wrong with me and

1142
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, I can actually go

1143
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 6: and get help for it, and then I don't know

1144
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 6: that's I just started paying more attention to him when

1145
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 6: he started stepping into that ment, like taking care of

1146
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 6: his mental and actually being an advocate for my bait

1147
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 6: for it, making people comfortable and now to see what

1148
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 6: was wrong with them, because motherfucker, that's the last thing

1149
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 6: somebody want to do is put all the problems on

1150
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 6: front street. You hide and parts of yourself. You know,

1151
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 6: it's like you need everything to make the thing work.

1152
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Everything.

1153
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: It seemed like you want to healing journey though. That's

1154
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: why I asked you what you was doing.

1155
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Waking up.

1156
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: Trying to write through it for for real, Like I

1157
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 5: went to therapy, I was like four weeks by saying

1158
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 5: I didn't go back. I need to go back, you

1159
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 5: mean being shoutow. We took a marriage counselor too, We

1160
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 5: did the.

1161
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 4: Eight weeks. That was cool.

1162
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've I don't think I've gone long enough personally,

1163
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 5: like by myself to really like figure out the full

1164
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 5: spectrum of my being. Like you was talking about, you

1165
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because that's probably the answer, like

1166
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: detaching from the identity that we like associating as far

1167
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 5: as like work.

1168
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: And then diving into everything else?

1169
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 5: Who am outside out of that? Who am I one

1170
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: of my hobbies? What do I all that type of stuff?

1171
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 2: That's it, You're still living. I just start going to therapy.

1172
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: I was like thirty six maybe still yeah cool cool

1173
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: grass greener.

1174
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about that record. Literally we really just did right. Yeah,

1175
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: A sensor died.

1176
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 5: Like there's there's always this thing that you want, but

1177
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: once you get it, you realize, like I had it

1178
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 5: out along, I've had all of these things.

1179
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: I've had more than enough to be happy. I mean,

1180
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: I got a family.

1181
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: I got a healthy son, like my boy, healthy and

1182
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: happy running around like we can't get him too shut up.

1183
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 5: We talk all day, love us, bro, Like, save my

1184
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: family the same way. I mean, I talked to my family.

1185
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 5: I just found out my mom just found her biological dad.

1186
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: He stayed up.

1187
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: Here, and I got five new aunties Like family just

1188
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 5: extended type of So it's crazy, bro, Like it's always

1189
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: something to be thankful about versus the things that you

1190
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 5: think you mean that you still need.

1191
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you've evolved from better. So once upon

1192
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: a time, good things take time. Now, Junkie in the sun,

1193
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: what's what's the biggest way, Deontay, the man has changed

1194
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: over that journey.

1195
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: I think the need for the validash has eased a

1196
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 5: lot more, and I think I've become more aware of

1197
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: it versus like twenty sixteen. I'm doing it and I

1198
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 5: don't know that I'm doing it for this reason type.

1199
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 5: So it's just the awareness, I think, I say, and

1200
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 5: the ability to change things based on knowing them.

1201
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: You mean so I like that?

1202
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Deontay Hitchcock. Junkie in the Sun is out right now.

1203
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: How many copies you at?

1204
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: Man? You don't you even know?

1205
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: Somewhere in the thousand. We just started for real, for real.

1206
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 5: But I'm finna crank them coffee styles back up? Yeah, yeah,

1207
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 5: where do people purchase.

1208
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 4: Find them? More?

1209
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: Junkie and the Sun is out right now. You can

1210
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: go get it anywhere you stream music. First off, it's

1211
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 5: out for free.

1212
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Ain't gonna shake you down.

1213
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go listen to it, and if you

1214
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: feel so moved to do so, come shot with me.

1215
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: You can find it in the link on my bio.

1216
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 5: Deonte v H. That's d e a n t e

1217
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: v H. It's d e a n t e v H.

1218
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 5: That's Instagram, Twitter, Black Planet, MySpace. Whatever you need to

1219
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 5: find me, type there link in my bio. The site

1220
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 5: is called Lootle and the project is called Junkie.

1221
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: In the Sun.

1222
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 5: You can pay ten dollars or you could pay whatever

1223
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 5: you want. You can pay ten thousand if you want

1224
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: to shot with me. We put my boy in school.

1225
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 5: We're paying for a wedding. And yeah, love y'all.

1226
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: What inspired that? Like? Why one hundred thousand? Like why?

1227
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: I just know.

1228
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 5: It just came off the top of my head. I

1229
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: ain't get myself time to think about it. It's like

1230
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 5: they do it.

1231
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 7: That's how the Russell. The Russell was doing something. Just

1232
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 7: the number gives people something like a market to be like,

1233
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 7: we gotta help you get to that.

1234
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yo, you just said you just gonna stomp back

1235
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: up the freestyles.

1236
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, start them up. So as soon as I get

1237
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: back on.

1238
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: I want to give us something. Now.

1239
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: Oh shure, we got music.

1240
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: Okay man, DJ d Reck cut the beer. Yeah, occupied.

1241
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 5: By I'm about to sell one hundred thousand albums. If

1242
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 5: you think I'm not, then you on that talkn gotta

1243
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 5: be powder of that X word to Malcolm, I'm from Atlanta,

1244
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 5: that's the home of the Falcons. But I'm like Kujo,

1245
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: a dog on these beasts washing me kick the shit,

1246
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: just like Judo, assuming wrestler couldn't steal with the kid

1247
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 5: on really the best who Donna live DEVI flow tougher

1248
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 5: than pining letters, penning letters, and it's time I addressed

1249
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 5: it like paying letters.

1250
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: Since I dropped better, ain't been.

1251
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 5: Nobody that did better. I ain't fucking around me versus whoever.

1252
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: Meaning I'm punching down. I'm underground but sawing the friendly

1253
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 5: skuys out to London Town independent hustling. We at about

1254
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 5: seven hundred now, but masterminding more on the mission to

1255
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 5: move a hundred thous one hundred k soul and understand

1256
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 5: that that is a statement. It's not a goal because

1257
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 5: waiting on labels, the HANDI paper has gotten old. They

1258
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 5: don't know what I'm worthing, because if they did, they

1259
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 5: wouldn't trip about the price of a verse. It ain't

1260
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 5: another rap of Knights on Earth. I dropped the album

1261
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 5: of a year two times. COVID stifled the first, but

1262
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 5: then life it's ups and down slight the price of

1263
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: the work in spite of the dirt.

1264
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 4: I came out clean as you is Christ of this bird.

1265
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 5: Still I know the drill. The folks need something to

1266
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 5: see now, they need something to depend on. That's something.

1267
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: It's me.

1268
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 5: I've been through hell and back a few times, but

1269
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 5: made a hell with a renewed mind. I knew it

1270
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 5: all would work out for your boy in due time.

1271
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 5: So you can click the link in my bio from

1272
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: now until twenty seven sink on the Maya word to

1273
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 5: eat debris io.

1274
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: I'll be in the kitchen whipping chickens and pen wrents.

1275
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: I got album of the year. Don't believe me? Press

1276
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: playing listen, I ain't tripping.

1277
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: Man, Go help my brother get the one hundred thousand records. Man, Okay,

1278
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: you got defeated to pay for right.

1279
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 2: That the breakfast club period.

1280
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: Every day waking ago.

1281
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: Click your ass up the breakfast club.

1282
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 4: You don't finish for y'all.

1283
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: Dump