Speaker 1: Look out the only films to be buried with Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, writer, director,
Speaker 1: a dodecahedron, and I love films. As Elbert Hubbard once said,
Speaker 1: God will not look you over for medals, degrees or diplomas,
Speaker 1: but for scars. And whether you have seen the original
Speaker 1: Ring or only the Gold of Minsky American remake, both
Speaker 1: are quite good. But you know, are you an original
Speaker 1: or not? Yeah, that's interesting, Thank you, Albert. Every week
Speaker 1: I'm about a special guest over. I tell them they've died,
Speaker 1: then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that mean the most of them. Previous guests include
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone, Jamila Jamil and even Clad Lamballs.
Speaker 1: But this week it is the wonderful comedian mister Russell Howard.
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Speaker 1: with Russell. We laugh a lot, We talked beginnings and endings,
Speaker 1: We talk about secrets. The whole episode is uncut and
Speaker 1: ad free and as a video. Check it out. Over
Speaker 1: at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein. So it's
Speaker 1: Russell Howard. You know Russell Howard. He's a legend. He's
Speaker 1: been a huge stand up staff for years and years.
Speaker 1: He's currently on sky Max every week with the Russell
Speaker 1: Howard Hour. You've seen his work, and if you haven't,
Speaker 1: you can watch a load of his excellent specials on Netflix. Weirdly,
Speaker 1: we'd never really cross pass before recording this, so it
Speaker 1: was very special to spend some proper time with him.
Speaker 1: We recorded this very late the other night. He would brilliant,
Speaker 1: just as you would expect, and I think you're really
Speaker 1: going to love this one. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixteen of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: to Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I enjoined today by a writer, a actor, a topiciler,
Speaker 1: a panel show eller, a The Weaker, a Good newser A,
Speaker 1: Netflix ser a, ren a any sizey one, sir, a legend,
Speaker 1: a radio, a movie star, a hero, and a saint.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to this show. I can't believe he's here.
Speaker 1: It's the one an Ali Here he is is mister
Speaker 1: Uzzer Howard w thank you very much for such a
Speaker 1: lovely woman. You forgot dog over now that was the
Speaker 1: only thing you and I'm fucking furious. So we startgeting.
Speaker 1: Let's startget We'll start let's do it all again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you ever had that? You know, when you do
Speaker 1: like radio shows and they kind of really give it
Speaker 1: that big up and you've just got to kind of
Speaker 1: sit there and take it. It's so weird being English
Speaker 1: because you just want to subvert it and just go
Speaker 1: I'm a dick. When you do comedy in the state
Speaker 1: and they're like, so what do you want me to
Speaker 1: see for? Where you go up? It's all right, But
Speaker 1: then if you don't, the crowd think you're ship. So
Speaker 1: you have to have that kind of intro very. It's
Speaker 1: so weird that in it and it is genuinely the
Speaker 1: opposite here. If you if I gave you that intro
Speaker 1: brought you on stage, you'd have a death. You'd have
Speaker 1: a death maybe like who's this camp? Yeah. It's such
Speaker 1: funny thing as well, isn't it that you don't realize
Speaker 1: how English you are until you travel and how that
Speaker 1: We've been raised in Mordal because part if you're famous
Speaker 1: people that like the joy they want is for you
Speaker 1: to really fail. Like if you're doing new material, it's
Speaker 1: great if he goes well for you, but if he
Speaker 1: goes badly, it's such a great story for them. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean of go? Yeah, we've seen
Speaker 1: him down top secret. Aren't help me in his own ship? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was got like, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's the story we all want in it. You want
Speaker 1: to be there with the breakdown. You and I have
Speaker 1: never properly met. I was thinking, we've never actually met.
Speaker 1: However we once maybe I was thinking like fourteen years
Speaker 1: of sound that I was trying to remember what it was.
Speaker 1: There was a gig. I think Trevor Luck used to
Speaker 1: do it. It It used to be a regular gig in
Speaker 1: angel In like the library bar, maybe Trevor Up and
Speaker 1: Chris Mayo and new material. It was like a new
Speaker 1: material night and anyway, I saw you there, but we
Speaker 1: never we never passed. Yeah, I do remember that, I
Speaker 1: remember the gig. I don't, but I know We've got
Speaker 1: a mutual friend in Rochen Connoity, and she speaks very
Speaker 1: highly raisins the greatest. You call a raisin? Why do
Speaker 1: you got a raisin? Because of how it's spelled. I
Speaker 1: guess I just say she's Raisin. I call her roy
Speaker 1: Sin because that is how she was. We're in Montreal
Speaker 1: the Comedy Festival, and this guy when whereas roy Sin?
Speaker 1: And because there's so many kind of like alpha comics
Speaker 1: in Montreal, it sounds like the perfect name for like
Speaker 1: a hard hitting American comic, doesn't it? Look at it
Speaker 1: comes from roy Sin? Hey, I'm Royce. What's the deal
Speaker 1: with fucking women? Am I right? There's a lot of
Speaker 1: fucking Mexicans? Hey, Royston said it, like, yeah, exactly, smoking dreams,
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. I'm writing this. Yeah, you fucking
Speaker 1: walk piece of shit. I'm voist it. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: spend the entire week in Montreal just calling them roy Sin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like raising as well. Yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: question for you, which I'm curious about. You are one
Speaker 1: of the few, although I suppose it's more common than
Speaker 1: it used to be. You were very successful, and you
Speaker 1: continue to be successful. But you were very successful very
Speaker 1: young in this game certainly, Yeah, you you were pretty young,
Speaker 1: and it happened I mean, I'm sure to you it
Speaker 1: took a while, but as in comparatively to most comics,
Speaker 1: you had a pretty meteoric rise. How did you cope
Speaker 1: with that in the early stages of it, when you
Speaker 1: were like suddenly famous, You're on TV, you were doing stuff.
Speaker 1: How was it coping with that? And also how was
Speaker 1: it with the people you'd come up with? Did it
Speaker 1: did it change your dynamics? That's interesting, yeah, because presumably
Speaker 1: you had with this sort of like stratspheric rise from
Speaker 1: ted Lasso and Emmy winning and Hollywood and all that,
Speaker 1: that must have felt like you know what I mean. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it did for sure, But but I also have been
Speaker 1: around for a long time, so it's not well, that's it. Well,
Speaker 1: that's where I felt super lucky. So basically I started
Speaker 1: doing stand about eighteen, and it got nominated for the
Speaker 1: period when I was twenty six, So it wasn't overnight
Speaker 1: to me. But I had that lovely thing of I'd
Speaker 1: done well at gigs in Lincoln, and I had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a following in Lincoln, so I kind
Speaker 1: of knew what it felt like to be famous every
Speaker 1: time I went there, like I had this week in Lincoln. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had this sort of university gig that I did
Speaker 1: from like twenty two to like twenty six, and it
Speaker 1: was like every time I went there, there'd be like
Speaker 1: two hundred people. It's like Russell's, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I kind of had these little moments where you know,
Speaker 1: I've done welling gigs, I've done really badly at gigs.
Speaker 1: I died, you know, But I kind of knew who
Speaker 1: I was comedically and as a person when it happened,
Speaker 1: and I have to think we are. So I often
Speaker 1: feel really bad for like reality stars because irrespective of fame,
Speaker 1: we always have this hobby, whether it's comedy or filmmaking
Speaker 1: or writing, whatever it is that you can hold onto.
Speaker 1: So when you become famous, it makes you realize how
Speaker 1: much you love your hobby, really, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And for me that was it. You sort
Speaker 1: of lean into that of going, oh wow, I get
Speaker 1: to do my kind of hobby on it on a
Speaker 1: bigger scale. And I was, you know, I've always loved it,
Speaker 1: and I loved it when I was eighteen and up
Speaker 1: until twenty six, and then suddenly just being given the
Speaker 1: steroid of fame or TV or whatever to do kind
Speaker 1: of bigger gigs. I absolutely loved it. And I never
Speaker 1: really kind of went into the sort of celeb side
Speaker 1: of things. I've always, you know, rather just just hang
Speaker 1: out with my missus and my mates from school. So
Speaker 1: I've always been fairly normal. And the people that I
Speaker 1: came up with, who my sort of generation, My closest
Speaker 1: friends in stand up people are our picture who is
Speaker 1: now kind of fat. Yeah, he's now like a really
Speaker 1: big comic in Sweden, and I know it's really cool.
Speaker 1: And I went to see him do a special it
Speaker 1: was recorded for Swedish TV and it was so great.
Speaker 1: And who Steve Williams is a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Steve Hall right like Row Sheen is a good mate.
Speaker 1: So I've got that. That was my kind of sort
Speaker 1: of era, like Greg Davies, John Richardson, John Robbins. So
Speaker 1: there was like a bunch of us that we all
Speaker 1: kind of came up in different different ways, you know,
Speaker 1: so I think we And also I was when I
Speaker 1: was young, I supported John Oliver and Daniel Kitson, So
Speaker 1: I had this kind of perfect school in comedic excellence
Speaker 1: and how to be do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. I was super lucky. Really, I
Speaker 1: had lots of kind of mentors. Yeah, those are all
Speaker 1: everyone you mentioned there is like really decent people as well.
Speaker 1: You're not talking about fucking yeah. Yeah, there's not that
Speaker 1: many dicks, I don't think in the circuit there. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a surprising at least small amount. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can name them on my nad. Yeah it's funny,
Speaker 1: isn't it surprising? Yeah? I think before I started stand up,
Speaker 1: I thought I assumed everyone would be awful. I really
Speaker 1: I thought it would be like so many dickheads And
Speaker 1: it's not a tool that way. And it feels like
Speaker 1: it's getting better and better. Like I remember doing open
Speaker 1: spots and being sort of slightly bullied by sort of
Speaker 1: older comics, but only on one or two, and like
Speaker 1: what you're doing with your notes in the corner, and
Speaker 1: you're like, because I'm fucking scared, Like do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I want? I want to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: but my comeback was always to tell the truth. Oh
Speaker 1: why you're writing your jokes that because I'm not very
Speaker 1: good and I'm petrified I don't have your natural swagger,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of shout it down straight away. But
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen, And particularly now, I kind of
Speaker 1: love seeing new comics and I love kind of having
Speaker 1: a chat and how is it for you? What was
Speaker 1: it like that, because obviously you've been going for a
Speaker 1: while and then bang and presumably everyone's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're an overnight success. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely have that say.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm very very very lucky. I
Speaker 1: think I'm very lucky in all of it. But I
Speaker 1: always say, go, I think I'm very grateful that it
Speaker 1: happened so late, because had it happened when I was twenty,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is I've probably been dead. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I often think about someone like Daniel Slots,
Speaker 1: who was like famous as like eighteen, oh, like Jack Whitehall,
Speaker 1: and you're like, how the fuck have you kept it together?
Speaker 1: Because I felt like being twenty six was just just
Speaker 1: right where you're not mad, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I think you're right in that.
Speaker 1: I think very lucky to have a stand up because
Speaker 1: that is the thing that keeps keeps me sane and
Speaker 1: keeps you totally. Yeah, but it's like the perfect mechanism
Speaker 1: through which to do life. It's kind of anything, whether
Speaker 1: it's sad or happy or whatever, you can put it
Speaker 1: through this prism and we when we get a laugh,
Speaker 1: it's basically an audience saying to us, Yeah, mate, it's
Speaker 1: not just you, you're not it's not just you that's mad.
Speaker 1: You're not mad? Like it. And it's sort of like
Speaker 1: this tangible tick where you go, yeah, fine, fine, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I'll give you that. You know. That's
Speaker 1: entirely what I think in new material, and new material
Speaker 1: is me asking an audience repeatedly, am I mad? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1: And it's something, isn't it? But yeah? And there's a
Speaker 1: tangibility to it like that's yeah. I've only ever written
Speaker 1: one script. I wrote it with Steve Williams, and I've
Speaker 1: never done anything like that where we had to present
Speaker 1: the whole thing, you know, and step away from it
Speaker 1: because everything has been created in bite sized chunks that
Speaker 1: I knew all of it works. I've done it in
Speaker 1: little clubs, I've connected it there. It's all fine, you know,
Speaker 1: But that feeling, I don't know how people do that. God,
Speaker 1: it must be so terrifying to go There's things, there's
Speaker 1: things I've realized, like, you know, working on ted Lasso,
Speaker 1: you've got people like Jason and Brendan and Joe who
Speaker 1: did well over their ten thousand hours of improv, right,
Speaker 1: so they they're funny and they also know what's funny
Speaker 1: and there's no arguing. Yeah, but it's it's like you've
Speaker 1: been in the groove and there's something about the groove
Speaker 1: of laughter where you just go, trust me to see
Speaker 1: last thing I think with the script where you go, like,
Speaker 1: if you were to book brackets, Pul's funny face, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like what And yet pulling that funny face is
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. It's going to be really funny.
Speaker 1: And you could write that to yourself and it's like,
Speaker 1: tell this joke, pull funny face. But if someone's someone's
Speaker 1: reading it, it's like what kind of face? And then
Speaker 1: you have to show them the face and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not funny, that's just not funny, like what like?
Speaker 1: And then you having to show someone the face is
Speaker 1: so funny when you look at it from another lens.
Speaker 1: And it's that thing that it's so funny when you
Speaker 1: meet these gatekeepers that have no self awareness that they
Speaker 1: can't realize we are in funny now by me having
Speaker 1: to show you my face, that is funny, but funny
Speaker 1: how I don't know, it just is you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's trust me, Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's really
Speaker 1: what's happened with the film. Although that was we did
Speaker 1: it. It It was a thing called a girt Lush Christmas
Speaker 1: and it was a thing for Yeah, yeah, we did
Speaker 1: it for two years ago. Yeah, I really I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed writing it with my friend, and I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching people bring our words to life. But I can't
Speaker 1: it really difficult to play a version of me that
Speaker 1: was kind of a traffic cop, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because I was quite straight, a bit like
Speaker 1: Martin from the Office. It was that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: small and I just haven't got the the acting chops.
Speaker 1: But my sister was in it was phenomenal, and that
Speaker 1: was kind of weird to be in a you know,
Speaker 1: a thing with your sister and she's infinitely more talented
Speaker 1: to you. You know, this is she was helping me
Speaker 1: just kind of don't do that. Yeah, interesting wrestle. I'd
Speaker 1: like to ask you so many other things, but I've
Speaker 1: forgotten to tell you something. I've just seen it in
Speaker 1: my notes. I should have I probably should have said
Speaker 1: this earlier. You've died. You're dead. Oh no, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: What happened? You tell me? How did you die? Well?
Speaker 1: I died at a ripe old age yea, And I
Speaker 1: was ninety eight, and I was in a really warm
Speaker 1: scene and I just round like that's a nice way
Speaker 1: to get Yeah. Yeah, I just kind of slowly, slowly
Speaker 1: drowned and I was a bit sleepy before I drowned.
Speaker 1: Did you mean to be in the team. I was
Speaker 1: ninety eight at that point, and I was kind of
Speaker 1: I was on a private, private island that I don't
Speaker 1: know how I got there, but I was. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just had a really loved, lovely kind of like thirty
Speaker 1: year holiday, just hanging out with friends, and then just
Speaker 1: went off for a little swim and Diedez that was
Speaker 1: thirty year holiday. Thirty year Yeah, yeah, on a private island.
Speaker 1: So you've got a private islands gone. There's at sixty eight, yes,
Speaker 1: so sixty eight you've retired, that's right, Yeah, and you've gone.
Speaker 1: How many friends have you taken with you? Oh? How
Speaker 1: many mates have I got? Well, hopefully i'll get more friends.
Speaker 1: But basically I had a road. They were on a rotation,
Speaker 1: so they weren't there for thirty years. They still have
Speaker 1: to go back to work. And yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I like probably let's say two hundred people would just
Speaker 1: sort of come and go, and you know, occasionally I'd
Speaker 1: leave the island, you know, for supplies and such. And
Speaker 1: then you didn't have people bring you all the people.
Speaker 1: You didn't say, did you bring some crisps? Turning up
Speaker 1: where I sold in a good disco? Um? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think old and warm, warm sea drowning and dooming. It
Speaker 1: does sound if I made like you, this was a
Speaker 1: choice to end your life at this point in the city.
Speaker 1: So you've thought this is it for me? Thirty years
Speaker 1: of old late it's just a bit too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am had a big, a nice bottle of red
Speaker 1: wine and I loaded pills, just went for a little swim.
Speaker 1: And where were your friends? Did you say good Baye
Speaker 1: or you just like you know the awkward I didn't
Speaker 1: you didn't say no. No, I should have sayed blood.
Speaker 1: You should have said something said you you'll kick yourself in, haven't.
Speaker 1: So that's that is a very nice way to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, some people fear drowning, but it's a nice
Speaker 1: warm sea. It's warm, it's warm. I'm drunk. I've got
Speaker 1: some tablets in me and I'm just slowly drifting away.
Speaker 1: I really like it. Do you worry about death, oh, mate,
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I'm terrified a bit, particularly during COVID.
Speaker 1: I've got loads of kind of weird little panic attacks.
Speaker 1: And I'm a real slave to any kind of nick
Speaker 1: knackery to make you be a better version of yourself.
Speaker 1: And you know, lots of supplements, lots of My wife
Speaker 1: is a doctor, so it's this perfect ying yang relationship
Speaker 1: where she but she finds my my nonsense. I bought this.
Speaker 1: I bought this. It's like an infrared far like machine
Speaker 1: that shoots infrared stuff at you because I because I
Speaker 1: saw it on some website it's maybe very good for
Speaker 1: inflammation and whatnot. And my wife was, what's that? And
Speaker 1: I showed it a video of what it did, and
Speaker 1: she said, it looks like a fucking brass eye video,
Speaker 1: which is like, it's like the perfect comeback. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're looking at it, you go, yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: I've paid for it now, So that's often the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of, Yeah, I'm really scared of it, and
Speaker 1: I try and do whatever I can to try and
Speaker 1: keep it at bay. I'm scared of dying young, really
Speaker 1: scared of that and being like having an illness, so
Speaker 1: I try and do anything I can to try and
Speaker 1: negate that. You know, were you always this way? Did
Speaker 1: you always feel this way? Yeah? I think it's sort
Speaker 1: of pasted down. My dad's mum died when she was young,
Speaker 1: so my dad's like super into like fitness and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, so it's just this kind of clearly a
Speaker 1: weird genetic thing. And one of my cousins died when
Speaker 1: I was eight and he was eighteen, and I just
Speaker 1: remember that having a massive effect on the family. He's
Speaker 1: like it's incredible, and he was the eldest sort of grandchild,
Speaker 1: so it was just proper sort of sadness. An eight
Speaker 1: year old remember seeing my mum crime Auntie's crying. So like,
Speaker 1: it's always been this weird thing of like two great
Speaker 1: young people that I didn't really know dying and maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that's been in my head, who knows. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think happens when you die? Oh? God? I
Speaker 1: love the idea of heaven who doesn't. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean of just seeing everyone and being the
Speaker 1: best version of yourself and it's you know, beautiful music
Speaker 1: and there's canna pays and clouds and but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's I think it's just utter darkness and we're
Speaker 1: eaten by worms and it's it's wretched and an appalling. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a frustrated atheist. I think atheists is so like
Speaker 1: they take much pride and then there is nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated that I believe in science. Well I
Speaker 1: got news for you, kiddo. Oh, yes, you're rug. There's
Speaker 1: a heaven all right. It's great. It's got it's got
Speaker 1: all your favorite thing in it. What's your favorite thing? Oh?
Speaker 1: What's my favorite thing? Do you know? I really like
Speaker 1: watching people from the north of England come out of
Speaker 1: water flames, like I don't know if you have been
Speaker 1: Aquiland in Benadon, I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: me and my brother can spend a good hour there,
Speaker 1: like like just just get a pint and sit down
Speaker 1: the bottom. The noises you hear just but I really
Speaker 1: enjoy that, Like it well makes me very cold. That's
Speaker 1: what heaven is. It's it's it's the exits to a
Speaker 1: ship ton of love flames and you can just sit
Speaker 1: and watch and it's purely Northern. Only Northerners allowed go in,
Speaker 1: and you just watch him all day. Everyone's very excited
Speaker 1: to see you, all the Northerners. At the end of
Speaker 1: the love thing, they get out of hell and I'm excited, Oh,
Speaker 1: good to see you. And the one that's a really
Speaker 1: big one. All them fuck med Chlorie to me, Jared,
Speaker 1: very excited to see you. And they want to know
Speaker 1: about your life, but they want to know about it
Speaker 1: through film. Okay. The first thing they ask is Russell Howard,
Speaker 1: what's the first film you remember seeing. I know I
Speaker 1: was told not to say this, Okay, the first film
Speaker 1: I remember watching. I remember watching him Return of the
Speaker 1: Jedi with my dad at the cinema, so it must
Speaker 1: have been re released, and it was in Weymouth, and
Speaker 1: I remember walking home with him and just doing him,
Speaker 1: just me and dad and just being fascinated with the ewalks,
Speaker 1: playing the storm Troopers heads, like the drums just couldn't
Speaker 1: get out of my head. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I just really vividly remember holding his hand, just going
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's just unbelievable that and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine. But it was the it was just the
Speaker 1: disrespect and the audacity of it. I just thought you
Speaker 1: were disturbed by like, Nie, did they kill them? But
Speaker 1: they then played they played musical instruments with their fucking ahead.
Speaker 1: I mean that is, and the e Walks are like
Speaker 1: the sweet Ones. Yeah, that's some real no one ever
Speaker 1: thinks about. I remember, even so I'm mate is going,
Speaker 1: I mean as far as like you know, but the
Speaker 1: phrase pissing on your grave, that's the next level, isn't it.
Speaker 1: So you kill him? Imagine that. Imagine someone kills kills
Speaker 1: you nan and then pulls her apart and turns her
Speaker 1: into a piano. It's just it's just fucking rib cages
Speaker 1: a xylopha, right, the disrespect that was it. I just
Speaker 1: I just found it. So I just remember finding it
Speaker 1: so funny, and it's just so wild and just going
Speaker 1: like obviously not because I'm mate, but but thinking but
Speaker 1: not having the language to go. Then e Walks don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck down, you know, it's listen, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want to be serious and dissect him. But
Speaker 1: that is quite a comedians point of view to have
Speaker 1: had it such a younger. It's like a really interesting
Speaker 1: thing to have picked up on as an eight year old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a real like I really vividly remember it, like genuinely,
Speaker 1: just going just I just couldn't get it out of
Speaker 1: my head. It properly. That was the first film I remember,
Speaker 1: the first film I remember seeing. I wish I hadn't
Speaker 1: was It felt like it probably would have been around
Speaker 1: that era, remember it when I was like nine. I
Speaker 1: was playing around with the VCR getting the track in
Speaker 1: right to remember all that, and I just put the
Speaker 1: video in something that had been recorded the night before,
Speaker 1: and it was Planet the Apes, the original Planet the Ape,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the gorillas on the horses, and it's
Speaker 1: just scaring the absolute shit out of me, like properly,
Speaker 1: like I had to eject it, just go, oh what
Speaker 1: have I just seen? You know? Just hetrified. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: did your dad take it? Because you've got You've got
Speaker 1: once is the one brother? That's right? Are you the oldest?
Speaker 1: I am the oldest? Yep, So your dad takes the
Speaker 1: cinema and left them behind. Yeah, So because I was eight,
Speaker 1: they were six, and it was clearly you know, a
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of bonding and yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I really, I just remember it, and yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: certain that was the first film. Yeah, that's very cool.
Speaker 1: What is the film having a planet? The apes that
Speaker 1: scared you the most? And do you like being scared?
Speaker 1: Russell Howard? No, I don't, mate, No, My I remember
Speaker 1: watching we watch remember the Ring? Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: the original version of The Ring? Good God? So I
Speaker 1: remember watching that round my friend my friend good God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I watched that at Daniel Kitson's house with Dan and
Speaker 1: my my now wife, and we were so scared we
Speaker 1: had to get We got cutlery out of his kitchen
Speaker 1: and we were holding it and holding like knives and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It really I'm not into it. My
Speaker 1: wife likes scary films. I cannot absolutely. They remember watching
Speaker 1: The Blair Witch Project with my brother. Were just on
Speaker 1: a punt. We didn't even know what it was like
Speaker 1: like Opening Weekend, hadn't read anything about it, watched it
Speaker 1: thought it was a documentary, thought it was real. And
Speaker 1: I remember that moment where the tent is shaking and
Speaker 1: just me and him looking at each other. Again this
Speaker 1: is this is not for us, man, But we were
Speaker 1: we slept together that night, so we slept in the
Speaker 1: same bed. I was fucking petrified. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I was like eighteen. But Mike, honestly, I
Speaker 1: just can't anything like that. What do you think it is?
Speaker 1: Why do you think some people love it? Why do
Speaker 1: you think you Is it to do with your fear
Speaker 1: of death? Maybe? I think it's just it's like, the
Speaker 1: one that really gets me is it's horror of the imagination.
Speaker 1: That's the worst. It's all the dinnerner wants to below there,
Speaker 1: the murkiness that it's like that scene in the Lair
Speaker 1: which when they're running away and she goes, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is that? What the fuck is that? That still
Speaker 1: gets me because it's you. You're you're with her, But
Speaker 1: it's like something like Cheapest Creepers when you see the
Speaker 1: guy in the car, like, oh, that's ridiculous thing, Like
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And I'm not really
Speaker 1: I think it's that it's it's the imagined. I've got
Speaker 1: quite a full on imagination and it can really it
Speaker 1: just needs a little spark and it works. But if
Speaker 1: I see someone googleish or scary. That being said, I
Speaker 1: remember my friend Neil when we were he's only forteen,
Speaker 1: like basically he had a cartilage operation and he met
Speaker 1: some girl in hospital and we all kind of went
Speaker 1: round her house and stayed over. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a bit weird. It's like a sleepover. There's like a
Speaker 1: bunch of us and a bunch of her mates and
Speaker 1: we were watching Hell Raizor and my mate Neil was
Speaker 1: getting whanked off and it was one of the worst
Speaker 1: experiences of my life like that. So you was just
Speaker 1: watching this terrifying thing and you just hear like Neil
Speaker 1: like and You're like, this is It's just not for
Speaker 1: me this and everyone was cool with it. Everyone was like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a really great film. I'm like, well, no,
Speaker 1: it's not a great films. This is all. This is
Speaker 1: like a terrible evening. We could be watching Bottom Bottoms on,
Speaker 1: but not on BBC two. We'll watching The Bottom. I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch l Razer and listen to Lil
Speaker 1: get beat off? What about Oh yeah, how long did
Speaker 1: you sleep with your brother? After that? I'm saying this
Speaker 1: because I get it. I'm not idenitally like I finally
Speaker 1: quite touching he stayed in the bed with your brother.
Speaker 1: But was it just one night or was that for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life? No? No, no, we did. Weirdly,
Speaker 1: we just sort of went through quite a long period
Speaker 1: of around that time went so i'd have been how
Speaker 1: was I I was at nineteen? No, I was, I
Speaker 1: was eighteen, he's sixteen, and yeah, he sort of slept
Speaker 1: from it with me on and off in my bed
Speaker 1: for a while. But he had epilepsy and he had
Speaker 1: a fit one and he woke up having fitted and
Speaker 1: he was kind of all blue, and yeah, it was horrific.
Speaker 1: And then he then started sleeping in my bed because
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I mean fucking it was fucking boring
Speaker 1: in it sleeping on your own. And I was like, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And might never put two and two together that he
Speaker 1: was afraid and there was only recently. I was like,
Speaker 1: do you remember that when we stepped together. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I was afraid because I I'd wake up dead. Um.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, we did for quite a while because
Speaker 1: of that. So I was I was happy to have
Speaker 1: the company, and I think he was. He was battling
Speaker 1: demons and we would yeah, just did you did I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to ask this, but did he ever have a
Speaker 1: fit and wake you up? As in when when you
Speaker 1: were sharing a bed, he used to sleep with his
Speaker 1: leg on mine so that if he started shaking, he would,
Speaker 1: you know, he wake up. But that never happened. Yes,
Speaker 1: we were revealing quite a lot. But it's very very sweet.
Speaker 1: I really like it. I mean, not the Ethles a bit,
Speaker 1: but the rest of it. What about crying? What's the
Speaker 1: field that made you cry? To know? Life is beautiful?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an unreal film. It's just but it
Speaker 1: particularly as a comedian, to write a film and perform
Speaker 1: a film with that level of depth, humor, nuance, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's an unbelieved it's a genuine masterpiece. I think
Speaker 1: it's just it's so funny, it's so sad, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember I did it when it came out. I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like it must have come out like
Speaker 1: ninety four, maybe remember that, and just yeah, just oh,
Speaker 1: absolutely did for me. You were crying normally, not no,
Speaker 1: not really oddly. I cry at films on planes of that.
Speaker 1: I think there's kind of a reason why that happens,
Speaker 1: isn't it that the atmosphere is a bit funny about that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not not not really. That was definitely one that
Speaker 1: got me. But then I cried at m Benjamin Button
Speaker 1: as well. Really yeah, I don't know, it's just really good.
Speaker 1: That really got me. But that was that's the one.
Speaker 1: Remember Shine? Do you remember that film Shine with Jeffrey Rush. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I cried at that film. Yeah, it's a really it's
Speaker 1: it's a really great film. There's a lot going on. Center.
Speaker 1: Cried at Center, But yeah, fair enough. What about what
Speaker 1: is the film that you love? No one else likes it.
Speaker 1: It's critically not acclaimed, but you stand by it till
Speaker 1: the day and day. I really I really like that
Speaker 1: the Benjamin Button film. I really enjoyed it. I think
Speaker 1: that's a good answer, because that that is not a
Speaker 1: film going you tell me it's not a beloved film.
Speaker 1: It's not beloved film. It's not critically acclaimed. But I
Speaker 1: just really enjoyed it. I just enjoyed the tone of
Speaker 1: it and the feel of it and the soppiness of it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I thought they were both great in it.
Speaker 1: And I just you know, you watch a film and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, it was it was kind of nice
Speaker 1: and warm, and sweet, and I love that line where
Speaker 1: he writes back to his daughter, there are no rules
Speaker 1: for this thing, you know, and if you find that
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong direction, go you know, something like that.
Speaker 1: I just thought, yeah, I just really I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of It's so funny, isn't it when
Speaker 1: you when you talk about film and music, you feel
Speaker 1: so vulnerable when you admit to like some of it's
Speaker 1: kind of naugh It's sort of that thing where you go,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I did, I really, I kind of really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. There's a story about the making of Bedroom
Speaker 1: Button that I often think of, which is sweet is
Speaker 1: that I can't remember which way around whether it was
Speaker 1: David Fincher who said this, or Brad Pitt has said this,
Speaker 1: but one of them I believe it was. David Fincher
Speaker 1: wanted to make this film and he'd sent it to
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and Brad Pitt had said no. And then
Speaker 1: five years later or whatever, he said it back to
Speaker 1: him and he said, I still want to make this film.
Speaker 1: Have a read of it, and Brad Pitt read it,
Speaker 1: cried his eyes out and called him and said, what
Speaker 1: did you change that? I love this rewrite, and he said,
Speaker 1: it's exactly the same film. He said, but you've had
Speaker 1: a kid since you last read it, and now and
Speaker 1: now you get it. And he was like, ah, fuck now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the other way around. Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt tried to get David Fitzy directed. I can't remember
Speaker 1: who's hearing that story, but that is the story. He
Speaker 1: was like, he read it through the eyes of someone
Speaker 1: who'd had a baby and was now a wreck. So
Speaker 1: I think it's interested. Yeah, I mean god, because I
Speaker 1: really like interstella and I haven't got kids, but my god,
Speaker 1: imagine if you had a kid and yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: will Yeah, you're being a fucking guy. The only thing
Speaker 1: with Benjamin Button, I don't want to criticize it. I
Speaker 1: think it's an entertaining thing. I think I don't quite
Speaker 1: fully understand the concept because he's an old man that
Speaker 1: becomes a baby. Yes, but he's only physically an old
Speaker 1: man who physically becomes a baby. He isn't born with
Speaker 1: an old man's head. Yeah, so really it's just a
Speaker 1: normal life. But he looks a bit weird at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the end of it. Yes, yeah, yeah, is
Speaker 1: that fair? I think that is fair. But I think
Speaker 1: that's the It's kind of a weird little novella, isn't it.
Speaker 1: So it's that he wrote and was like, you know,
Speaker 1: what if what if you're born but you're old and
Speaker 1: then you're die, you're young, that'd be interested in it.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's like this weird little
Speaker 1: so it's oddly almost like a little Woody Allen hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It has like like
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's quite simple. I
Speaker 1: think it's because baby's little like old men, and that's
Speaker 1: I think it must have been that. It must have
Speaker 1: been the summer went went from there, what's the film
Speaker 1: that you used to love but you've watched it recently
Speaker 1: and you've gone you no, thank you, I don't like
Speaker 1: this anymore. The team Wolf there is there's there's a
Speaker 1: really fucking bizarre scene in it when so when he
Speaker 1: confesses the styles that he's going for some changes and
Speaker 1: Styles goes, whoa, well, Scottie, you're not a fat and
Speaker 1: he goes he goes, no, no, no, no, I'm a
Speaker 1: wolf and Styles goes, oh fah jeeus called you want
Speaker 1: to dance on my van then, and it's so bizarre
Speaker 1: that a film in the eighties could be that homophobic.
Speaker 1: But the very idea that if he were if he
Speaker 1: were gay, I'm there's absolutely no way I can hang
Speaker 1: out with you. But you're a wolf. I've got no
Speaker 1: problem with that. You know, I'll sell memorabilia with you.
Speaker 1: But if you're gay, And it's just one of those
Speaker 1: where you go, god, it's it's it's a little thing
Speaker 1: like that. You go, bloody ell. You forget how rampant
Speaker 1: kind of homophobia was. That's just that's like a kid's
Speaker 1: film and it's just got that Yeah, but I'll be gay.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not gay, I'll go, you know. And yet
Speaker 1: it's like this beloved kind of teen moving God. I
Speaker 1: wonder if it must be edited out of that bit
Speaker 1: when it's shown on TV nowadays. I would have thought,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Yeah, I guess so, but it's
Speaker 1: it's in the rags. I don't know where. I think
Speaker 1: I must have seen it on DVD, like, and I
Speaker 1: was sort of trying to think of like a film
Speaker 1: that I've watched again where you're like, bloody yell, this
Speaker 1: is it's a bit spicy. Yeah, I mean probably all
Speaker 1: lateies comedies. You can't. You just can't. Just don't watch him.
Speaker 1: That's my rule. Yeah, you're clear, what's the film that
Speaker 1: means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself good,
Speaker 1: but the experience you had around seeing the film will
Speaker 1: always make it special to you. Well. The negative one,
Speaker 1: obviously is watching a horror film whilst my mate gets
Speaker 1: beat off, you know, I mean, that's a given. But
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments in the cinema I watched
Speaker 1: The Nutty Professor in Florida in nineteen ninety five, I believe,
Speaker 1: and my dad was working out there. My dad had
Speaker 1: like this sort of three month contract, and we went
Speaker 1: to watch The Night Professor and there was a young
Speaker 1: girl in front of us. And I have never seen
Speaker 1: anybody enjoy anything more. So I was enjoying the film,
Speaker 1: but I was enjoying it through her as well. Like
Speaker 1: we're talking, this girl must have been about eight. She
Speaker 1: was getting she was laughing, she was standing up, she
Speaker 1: was running down the aisle. She couldn't believe what she
Speaker 1: was seeing. She was like tapping people, are you getting this?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like just everything it was. It was
Speaker 1: so great. It was like this beautiful running common tree
Speaker 1: and I've never I've never seen a human being enjoy
Speaker 1: a film like that. It was it was sensational. That's great,
Speaker 1: but it's so lovely. I remember my friend Dan had
Speaker 1: a great story. He watched the latest Planet of the
Speaker 1: Apes where Caesar, not the Mark Wahlberg ones, but the
Speaker 1: new ones. Yeah, the good ones. He only grabs his
Speaker 1: hand and goes no like that. Apparently somebody at the
Speaker 1: back of the room in the cinema way yes, boss,
Speaker 1: and sort of just cheered along its. So, you know,
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite things about cinema and I've
Speaker 1: kind of missed it because of COVID. I've been to
Speaker 1: a few things, but not a lot. But what I've
Speaker 1: missed so much is and I don't know if this
Speaker 1: happens everywhere in the world, but it definitely happens in
Speaker 1: the UK. When the trailers come out and we get
Speaker 1: them in the world and you know it's a big
Speaker 1: fat trailer. It's that beat after every trailer where you
Speaker 1: hear the whole cinema go fucking shot like this just
Speaker 1: this tiny You know it looks all right, you know
Speaker 1: it's so small, but you can everyone go and It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. You just remember going back
Speaker 1: to the cinema, just forgetting you've got I've missed this,
Speaker 1: just this small judgment where it doesn't matter how much
Speaker 1: millions you've spent on the trailer, it's going to be
Speaker 1: ruined by a mumbling man. That's a really good observator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's that it's so tiny, isn't Yeah yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, looks are right now enough. I mean it's
Speaker 1: just like that. Yeah, what is the film you most
Speaker 1: relate to? You know, I watched Once upon a Time
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and decathy relates to DiCaprio's character, just that
Speaker 1: kind of the need to be liked, that bit when
Speaker 1: he does you know, he's he's much the acting up
Speaker 1: and then he does that really great scene and the
Speaker 1: little girl says, that's the best acting I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so delighted. I that was what I
Speaker 1: was watching. My friend Steve, who Steve Williams, brilliant comedian,
Speaker 1: and he was like, fucking oh man, it's you. And
Speaker 1: I was like I was like shit, yeah. It was
Speaker 1: like it was such like I've really got that. It
Speaker 1: was so funny how desperate he was to be acclaimed
Speaker 1: and that I was like, oh my god, who really
Speaker 1: got me? Yeah? Saying this about yourself? Do you feel
Speaker 1: that way now? Is that? Has that always been the way?
Speaker 1: Is that still the way? But I just I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, with stand up, you just ultimately it's
Speaker 1: just like you really love making people laugh and you
Speaker 1: really hate, like, I don't like people not liking me,
Speaker 1: And so if someone writes a really nice review, you're
Speaker 1: like thank you, oh yeah, and you feel great about it,
Speaker 1: And if you get a shitty review, it's like, what
Speaker 1: have I done? Why do they hate? You? Know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It's this I don't really take things to heart.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got better at it, but I still
Speaker 1: have really quite thin skin really for a comedian in
Speaker 1: terms of you know what I mean, when people don't
Speaker 1: like me, I kind of take it personally. I completely understand.
Speaker 1: But well there's always that thing as well as like
Speaker 1: because you would one could say, well, surely you've tafened
Speaker 1: up over the years of doing all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: you go like, yeah, but if you make your skin
Speaker 1: too hard, then you can't do this stuff. Yeah, make
Speaker 1: this stuff right? Yeah? Yeah, it's yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's It's just an interesting thing, isn't it. Where you
Speaker 1: get zen, it's probably a better way of putting it
Speaker 1: in you, but you still have that initials. There's an
Speaker 1: amazing scene in the cold Play documentary where Chris Martin
Speaker 1: is on stage at the stadium in Paris and he's
Speaker 1: just lead on the floor. They're about to play to
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people in Paris, and he's like screaming
Speaker 1: into the air, why did the Sunday Times hate us?
Speaker 1: And that is just that thing where you just go,
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter where you get if you
Speaker 1: have that kind of what I tried my hardest. I
Speaker 1: tried my hardest to make a thing. Why do they
Speaker 1: hate it? You know? I think I think that's what
Speaker 1: propels you. And you know, if there's a better mechanism
Speaker 1: than fear, there has to be. But I haven't found
Speaker 1: one that you go, right, I've got these gigs coming up.
Speaker 1: You better work really harder. It's gonna be fucking shit.
Speaker 1: And I know how to motivate myself, but it means
Speaker 1: that you need the laughter, or you need the review
Speaker 1: or something to Yeah, you need the validation. You know.
Speaker 1: I've never been one of those guys that could go, well,
Speaker 1: that was it, take it or leave it? I very
Speaker 1: much was all right? Was that was it? Okay? Yeah? Fine?
Speaker 1: Was it? Do you know what I mean? I kind
Speaker 1: of well, that's my art. I've done it, like do
Speaker 1: you know? Well, I think I do think in stand
Speaker 1: up in particular, because it is fairly binary in terms
Speaker 1: of if they're laughing, it's going well, and if they're not,
Speaker 1: it might not be good. I mean there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's I suppose ar tia things, and you could still
Speaker 1: have a good gig if it's quiet, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's better when they're laughing. And I think any I
Speaker 1: won't name them, but I remember talking to a comedian
Speaker 1: earlier on and he was like, I don't fucking care
Speaker 1: if the audience like me. I want them not to
Speaker 1: like me and and be unable to not laugh. And
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't think there's a comedian that's ever
Speaker 1: done that, because even hardcore comedian, you know, even Edgie,
Speaker 1: Edgie edgy comedians, you like them, Yes, I think you
Speaker 1: like that. You know, Frankie Boyle says really hard to sit,
Speaker 1: but you like Frankie Boyle as an audience yea, you
Speaker 1: love him. Yeah, I don't think you. I don't think
Speaker 1: a comedian exists that you watch and think, God, they're
Speaker 1: so funny and I fucking hate them. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I don't think it exists. I
Speaker 1: think it's a myth completely. You're completely right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it but it's but and it'd be so interesting to
Speaker 1: know what they feel like as well, because the great
Speaker 1: the Great, like edgy comics, I bet you, they're just
Speaker 1: as kind of paranoid. In fact, I know they are
Speaker 1: because it's just like, you know, they get worried about
Speaker 1: people not getting it. You know, Yeah, what's sexiest film
Speaker 1: you've ever seen? Myself? Splash? Great? Great? Just I just remember,
Speaker 1: you know again, I don't know when I'd be about
Speaker 1: seven eight and just going, what the fuck? What kind
Speaker 1: of world are we living in? This is bad to
Speaker 1: see math, This is absolute chaos. That that that if
Speaker 1: you if you hang around Murmaid, yeah, yeah, exactly that, Daryl,
Speaker 1: Hannah just can you could suddenly be in your house
Speaker 1: and you just keep her in the bath. Unbelievable, just
Speaker 1: and then you sort of see you see her ass
Speaker 1: and you see a little bit of her boobs, just
Speaker 1: enough to get your seven year old mind going, well,
Speaker 1: when the time comes, I'll have some of that just
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, it was like this
Speaker 1: weird sort of definitely like I think that was just
Speaker 1: that that it really it really got something going to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he's all right, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It was yeah, yeah, exactly that dead
Speaker 1: best um. But yeah, I just think I'm into mermaids.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I bet you. I bet there's
Speaker 1: a lot of kids my age that that definitely had
Speaker 1: that weird thing where they were into mermaids first and
Speaker 1: foremost gradually had to get round to humans, had to
Speaker 1: get round the legs as well. We will work. The
Speaker 1: problem we had is that we had you know, Mermaids,
Speaker 1: and then we then we had Cheetara, So we had
Speaker 1: that going on, you know what I mean. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't until yeah, we rarely had vaginas. When you think
Speaker 1: about it, it was always tail or. It was there
Speaker 1: something in the way of it. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: always kept quite you know, probably the same for women
Speaker 1: when they saw missed the tumblus, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's something kind of well, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of women fancy Simba, don't they you know
Speaker 1: he's got that had he does he does have Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: but but he's to be fair. Now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure mermaids have vaginas. I just don't know where.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a Netflix documentary being do you know?
Speaker 1: In fact I met some I met some in Australia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was doing a doc and they were telling me
Speaker 1: that there's there's a lot of kind of creepy men
Speaker 1: who watched them perform at carnivals around Australia, and these
Speaker 1: men called mrvts, which I really liked. It's like everything's
Speaker 1: got the Internet, Like there isn't one sexual pecket thing
Speaker 1: or you can't have without someone giving it a name,
Speaker 1: and it turns out and is fucking great. I there's
Speaker 1: a subcategory troubling boners, worrying why I dones a filmy founder,
Speaker 1: rousing you may thought I shouldn't. I don't really know,
Speaker 1: if I'm honest, that was That was the only one
Speaker 1: I kind of flanked on. Well, if you think you're
Speaker 1: a MRVT, we can we can do with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is objectively the greatest film you've ever seen? So
Speaker 1: I love Life is Beautiful. That is up there. I
Speaker 1: would also say The Royal Tenebombs is definitely. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: an absolute parlor. But I really loved the Grand Budapest
Speaker 1: Hotel as well. I'd really like The Midnight Midnight in Paris.
Speaker 1: But if I were to go for one, I would
Speaker 1: say my favorite film is Life is Beautiful. I just
Speaker 1: think it's for your favorite and the greatest for me,
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah. I just think it's the creative scale
Speaker 1: is insane. Just like to make a comedy about the
Speaker 1: Holocaust and make it unbelievably sweet and touching and profound.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, incredible, absolutely incredible. You can have it.
Speaker 1: I love it. You can have that. What's the film
Speaker 1: you could or have? What's the most? Over and over again?
Speaker 1: I would say the Grand Budapest Hotel is really Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the film you voiced, really, the grandest, the most?
Speaker 1: Yeah fan wow, Yeah, yeah, I'm just I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: immediately thought that's the film you can repeat all day
Speaker 1: every day. Forgive me zero, I've been a dedful. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love him. I just think I think he's ah,
Speaker 1: it's such a great film. Yeah, what what is it like? Comforting?
Speaker 1: To you as well, is it like, yeah, like just
Speaker 1: sort of hanging out in it. I like hanging out
Speaker 1: in it. I just think he's so funny. I like
Speaker 1: it just pootles along. And I've watched it so many
Speaker 1: times now that I've got a few like that where
Speaker 1: I can watch what have I watched a lot as well?
Speaker 1: From my young Gears. I've watched The River Runs through
Speaker 1: it a lot. I don't know why. I actually really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. The Big Lebowski I have watched a lot,
Speaker 1: but just I've watched Interstellar quite a bit as well.
Speaker 1: But I'm sort of weird about like because what like
Speaker 1: me and my wife watched mad Men pretty much every
Speaker 1: night to go to bed. We have done for ten years,
Speaker 1: and it's just we know every word in it now,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of what we have to have on
Speaker 1: TV when we go to bed. Are we sure you
Speaker 1: have to have this? Yeah? It's weird, so we like literally,
Speaker 1: so whenever you get to the end of season eight
Speaker 1: or whatever, you start again, go again. Yeah, it's you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's only one episode we won't watch, and that's when
Speaker 1: Chancey the dog gets thrown away in the street. That's
Speaker 1: the only one because we've got a little dog and
Speaker 1: it kills us. But apart from that, yeah, it's funny,
Speaker 1: isn't it. How about you watch the film you've watched
Speaker 1: the most. I mean probably it's technically The Map of
Speaker 1: Christmas Carol. Really yeah, what is that? Well? Ay, I'll
Speaker 1: watch it a lot around Christmas and is the greatest
Speaker 1: film ever made technically, so probably that okay, okay, why
Speaker 1: is it? So? Are you into musicals? I like a musical? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because the stuff wrong with that? But see what if
Speaker 1: I'm fascinating is I always find it frustrating when we
Speaker 1: start singing, you you as an audience, have to go
Speaker 1: all in otherwise it's not going to work. So it
Speaker 1: is it actually requires some investment on your part to
Speaker 1: sort of buy into. You have to go quite a
Speaker 1: big hurdle, which is in this world people suddenly sing
Speaker 1: and you're like, that's fucking mad about to go all
Speaker 1: right if I'm coming in, And then if you go in,
Speaker 1: it's everything's heightened. It's very motion. No, it's very funny,
Speaker 1: sweet whatever, but it's a joy, is what it Usually
Speaker 1: that's interesting. But see see that that's one of my
Speaker 1: main things, Like I really like being convinced of something
Speaker 1: by somebody, do you know what I mean? Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't really drink until I was twenty
Speaker 1: six and living with John Richardson and he really drank no,
Speaker 1: but he kind of showed me. It was like, now,
Speaker 1: what what you do? You're having a bit of steak.
Speaker 1: What you want? It's a nice bit of red white.
Speaker 1: But he was a real love it. I love a connoisseur.
Speaker 1: I love somebody explaining why they love a thing and
Speaker 1: sharing there. I didn't know if you've ever met Danny Baker,
Speaker 1: but that Danny Baker is such a and Roschen is
Speaker 1: as well, so clever, like so so clever and so
Speaker 1: kind with dispensing their information. And I kind of love
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean? Sur would you
Speaker 1: like musicals? So your musicals and explained it? Okay, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I just think that's such a It's so much because
Speaker 1: I've never got to that thing. I remember watching the
Speaker 1: first five minutes of La La Land and I wanted
Speaker 1: to join ices. It was just like it's just brutal,
Speaker 1: but then but once you get over it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved Mulan bruge. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1: But when i've when i'm live something about it, I
Speaker 1: can see that I remember watching cats and I've never
Speaker 1: felt so sorry for human beings in my life. Like genuinely,
Speaker 1: I was going, these people were in agreement and yeah,
Speaker 1: but not not the not the film. Yeah we're still
Speaker 1: a degree. Yeah, but everyone's like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: the poetry too yellow. And you're like, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a dad. That's not right. They shouldn't be making him
Speaker 1: dress up as a cat and do that thing with
Speaker 1: his whiskers not And I was with a friend of
Speaker 1: mine and he was really upset. He was like, why
Speaker 1: can you not see it? But I love being convinced
Speaker 1: of something, so yeah, yeah, it's a bit like dancing,
Speaker 1: Like I take fucking ages to like I'm very sort
Speaker 1: of shy and feel embarrassed and like don't want to dance.
Speaker 1: But then at some point, sometimes in an evening, I
Speaker 1: will finally like cross over, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you sort of let down the barry wherever the
Speaker 1: fuck it is, or just like I don't care anymore.
Speaker 1: And then once you actually do dance, like this is
Speaker 1: fun and you're free and I think it's similar to
Speaker 1: that sort of thing of like everything's so embarrassing. It's
Speaker 1: also fucking embarrassing musicals or embarrassing, but then if you
Speaker 1: just go fuck it, yeah, then it's like it's much.
Speaker 1: It's sort of pure. Music is pure. It hits you
Speaker 1: in a way that totally it's liquid emotion, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But I've never I've never danced ever. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: again deeply and an envious of people that do. Like
Speaker 1: my cousin's husband Robin, he's the only man out of
Speaker 1: all of us to dances like family parties in that
Speaker 1: and he's having the time of his life. We're the
Speaker 1: ones that are kind of on the edge, so scared.
Speaker 1: I've never. It always blows people in mind, like what
Speaker 1: do you dance? What do you dance? I just get
Speaker 1: unto too embarrassed. I can't what your comedian just fucking
Speaker 1: do it. I honestly, I've never got to that level
Speaker 1: of comfort where I could fully let myself go. And
Speaker 1: just I remember when I got married, I was petrified
Speaker 1: about the first I had sort of held onto her
Speaker 1: like the other scene, like a woman dance like a
Speaker 1: drunk woman dance with a dog. It was that kind
Speaker 1: of you know, I sort of just held onto her
Speaker 1: and like sang the music and like because it was
Speaker 1: the that this is for lovers running in a way,
Speaker 1: it was so it was that song. So I was
Speaker 1: kind of like holding onto it and it was fucking brutal.
Speaker 1: And then whenever I see people do a choreograph dance,
Speaker 1: I just feel like this sort of cringe. But why
Speaker 1: because they're doing a lovely thing. They've made it beautiful,
Speaker 1: They've created this moment together. But I've got this horrible no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I get it, man, I really really
Speaker 1: really get it, and it's we gotta fight. Yeah, true,
Speaker 1: because I always think about this. When I was like
Speaker 1: a teenage Yeah, I used to be in clubs with
Speaker 1: my best friend Paul, and I would like stand in
Speaker 1: the corner looking men and moody, thinking that would be
Speaker 1: that's the way to a girl's heart, looking like a
Speaker 1: psychopath in the scary looking like a scary psychopath in
Speaker 1: the corner. And my friend Paul would be umping around
Speaker 1: dancing like a fucking clown, and I'd look at him,
Speaker 1: I think, you fucking idiot. Girls loved him. Of course,
Speaker 1: they loved him. Because he looks fun. You're going, there's
Speaker 1: a man he's enjoying his life rather than this fucking
Speaker 1: psychical Yeah yeah, but you're just desperate. Also there's um,
Speaker 1: oh god, what's his name? You know, the fifth Beatle,
Speaker 1: Billy Preston. Have you ever seen him dance? There is
Speaker 1: a performance he does with Ray Charles were singing a
Speaker 1: song called double O Soul. It is the most complete
Speaker 1: entertainment I've ever seen in my life. He sings a
Speaker 1: song they can't meet Double low Soul, and he dances
Speaker 1: like a lava lamp. It is. It's like he's possessed.
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. So if anyone listening honestly Billy Preston double Soul,
Speaker 1: and I would That's the thing. If I could dance
Speaker 1: like that, oh I'd be a happy man. What we
Speaker 1: don't like being negative? What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: What's the worst film I've ever seen? Good luck, Chuck.
Speaker 1: Jurassic Yeah, yeah, I watched. We walked out of that.
Speaker 1: I've walked out of a few Jurassic World. That first
Speaker 1: one't good. God. I was there for about thirty minutes
Speaker 1: and bounced, um muma mia, Oh well, I remember watching
Speaker 1: Muma Mia, and the only thing that kind of got
Speaker 1: me through it was my Nan was really enjoying it.
Speaker 1: It's like so she was like tapping along. I should
Speaker 1: have said earlier. Actually one of my one of my
Speaker 1: favorite films actually is Jamanji because my Nan watched it
Speaker 1: with us at the cinema. My Nan had this incredible
Speaker 1: like properly like what like just gone, just gone, and
Speaker 1: ship that film blew her mind and she was got
Speaker 1: that lovely laugh where she would laugh and then tell
Speaker 1: you why she was laughing. So she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these monkeys, these monkeys are everywhere, like so there was
Speaker 1: something about having and then this sort of started this
Speaker 1: weird where every crisp and I would give mine a
Speaker 1: nan like a stuffed toy monkey. That was just that
Speaker 1: sort of It started from like ninety six until she
Speaker 1: passed away. So I'd always get a little monkey, big monkey, whatever.
Speaker 1: But I've sort of forgotten about them, I just you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then I remember being around
Speaker 1: Nana Grandad's house one day and just seeing my nan
Speaker 1: put all the monkeys on the bed because all the
Speaker 1: monkeys are on the bed, and then and then they
Speaker 1: take the monkeys off the bed before they went to
Speaker 1: bed every day, and I realized that it's lovely, but
Speaker 1: I get my burden my granddad with this awful job
Speaker 1: where every night he was like, get these bloody apes
Speaker 1: off my stinking fucking bed. I love him. It's a
Speaker 1: nice gesture, but equally not just bying with Shane. It
Speaker 1: was like it was so yeah, it was weird too.
Speaker 1: Many was years ago? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You're a comedian.
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you laugh the most? Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen The Martian with Matt Damon? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it on a flight too. I think
Speaker 1: Dubaie and You weren't allowed swearing in the films, so
Speaker 1: that bit when he pulls the spike out of his
Speaker 1: stomach and then looks up to the skies and goes fudge,
Speaker 1: and it was something about him. I wasn't expecting it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know it wasn't swearing that. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever laughed more than that, just seen him
Speaker 1: scream fudge. It just I wasn't expecting it. But it's
Speaker 1: just it's the big build up and then him suddenly
Speaker 1: going fudge and me going that has to be that
Speaker 1: has to be Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something's happened. Um,
Speaker 1: soccer dog moved, soccer dog. Have you ever seen those
Speaker 1: the soccer dog movies. There's a elaborate dog does an
Speaker 1: over read kick and it's just say. There is a
Speaker 1: bit of slapstick in the film Inherent Vice. I didn't
Speaker 1: have you ever seen that? Yes, really good. It's the
Speaker 1: funniest that. There are two scenes in that that the
Speaker 1: funniest scenes in any film ever. When she's describing breastfeeding
Speaker 1: her daughter who was on heroin, and she says, we've
Speaker 1: got the photo of her if you can stomach stomach it,
Speaker 1: and it's just she shows the photo and he just goes,
Speaker 1: just screams and then goes it's it's it's unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: the other bit when he gets hit and he goes
Speaker 1: to punch him when he's gone away, just red hot slapstick.
Speaker 1: I like that film a lot. Yes, it's great. It's
Speaker 1: great film. And the we're talking of slapstick, the nice
Speaker 1: guys with that and Ryan Gosling. But that bit would
Speaker 1: the gun in the toilet when he's trying to keep
Speaker 1: the toilet open. Just there's so many beautiful bits, but
Speaker 1: the bit when his character goes into the bar and
Speaker 1: probably says it's a free bar, and the look he
Speaker 1: gives it's just somewhere between a double take. But it's
Speaker 1: not like like me. It's sort of that I've got
Speaker 1: a good girl on me. But it's like, that's when
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by a really great actor, where
Speaker 1: you go, God, it's so deft, like the look he
Speaker 1: gives so small and yet you know it and yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of, yeah, I would say that's that. It
Speaker 1: was the real slapstick moments. So here's the thing. You've
Speaker 1: been a wonderful guest, and I'm very grateful to you. However,
Speaker 1: you retired at sixty eight. Comedy World mourned for thirty years.
Speaker 1: You did nothing for the thirty to sixty eight. You
Speaker 1: made no stand up nine, You moved from Private Island.
Speaker 1: You were happy you didn't. You didn't miss it enough. Yep,
Speaker 1: I had Yep. My friends were there, had lots of
Speaker 1: You had two hundred people mixed in and out, flying
Speaker 1: in and out. They had their life. They bring this
Speaker 1: guy's et cetera. Sometimes occasionally you'd leave the island for supplies,
Speaker 1: cross cutter, and he'd come back. Yes, yes, and then
Speaker 1: at ninety eight, your friends who kept coming back. You
Speaker 1: you were, you were sat around the lunch with him
Speaker 1: when he thought, I am fucking people. I am sick,
Speaker 1: sick to death for these people. It wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: even that. No, I just went it was like I
Speaker 1: was having lunch. I went, I'm going to kill myself.
Speaker 1: It was so but you forgot to tell them. So
Speaker 1: you put, You took a load of pills, You finished
Speaker 1: your bottle of wine, and you walked into the lovely
Speaker 1: warm sea. You went for a little swim out in
Speaker 1: the sea, and then he slowly sank into the sea
Speaker 1: until your lungs filled with sea warm seawater, and then
Speaker 1: your lungs burst and exploded. I was not can about
Speaker 1: on a private island. Thank you for the inviters. I've
Speaker 1: had a lovely year. And walking around with a coffin,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm like. And I say to your
Speaker 1: mates that I'll get to lunch, and I'm like, where's
Speaker 1: where's rustle? And they go, fuck it. I thought he
Speaker 1: was with you, And I go, no, no, I was
Speaker 1: having a nap. And they go, oh, I think he
Speaker 1: won't swim. I just a swim was it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he just went, you know what his likes to swim.
Speaker 1: He didn't say anything, did he know? I said nothing?
Speaker 1: And then we see empty bottle of pills. We go
Speaker 1: how many pills are supposed to take? And then we're
Speaker 1: looking to see can't see you anywhere. I work on
Speaker 1: a mask and snorkel. I swim out. I find you
Speaker 1: bloated a carcass at the bottom of the sea. You've
Speaker 1: been nibbled at by mermaids. They've taken chunks out of you.
Speaker 1: You've got a grin on your face. He went happy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: drag you to the to the to the beach. You're fucked.
Speaker 1: You're bloating to get knives, chop you up, put you in,
Speaker 1: get all the bits if you put you in the coffin.
Speaker 1: But there's more of you. I was expecting. What we
Speaker 1: build a bloat and algae. You've eaten and seaweed. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you're in the coffin. It's rammed in there. There's only
Speaker 1: enough room that I could slide one DVD into the
Speaker 1: side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And on the other side it's movie night every night,
Speaker 1: and one night it's your movie night. What film are
Speaker 1: you taking to show the Northerners? Is that come out
Speaker 1: of a love flame in heaven? When it is your
Speaker 1: movie night, Russell Howard, Life is beautiful, Life is beautiful.
Speaker 1: He is gonna make everyone cry. I Am going to
Speaker 1: make everyone cry because what's going to happen. They'll come
Speaker 1: out chlorine all over their bodies like the other exhausted
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ's gonna be up, down, up, down down them flumes.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely sodden. I need a film. I need a
Speaker 1: film that's gonna not gonna be funny film Holocaust. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely not five minutes in. I take it all back,
Speaker 1: I take it all back. You see that? Oh god,
Speaker 1: that is my god. Can you imagine watching like something
Speaker 1: like what kind of like an artsy film like that?
Speaker 1: Fucking else he's a bottle. She started a fucking bottle.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't know what it is. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: really really really enjoyed that, mate. That was fucking great.
Speaker 1: Thank you very very much. I've had a lovely time.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you would like to tell people to
Speaker 1: watch look out for listen to in the coming weeks
Speaker 1: or months when this comes out? All right, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got a tour that is going on sale and you
Speaker 1: can find tickets to Russell Howard dot co dot uk
Speaker 1: and the TV show is on Skymax every Thursday at
Speaker 1: ten thirty. Brilliant Russell, You're a joy. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really good fun forward to seeing you on the dance
Speaker 1: floor and hearing all about the music. Be as you've said,
Speaker 1: I will stop the recording, have a lovely death. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Good day. So that was episode undred
Speaker 1: and sixteen. Head over to patreon dot com forwards. Lest
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets
Speaker 1: and video with Russell. Go to Apple Podcast give us
Speaker 1: a five star rating. Right about the film that means
Speaker 1: the most to you and why it's a lovely thing
Speaker 1: to read. It helps numbers and it is really appreciated,
Speaker 1: so listen up. I hope you will understand. But I
Speaker 1: need to take another short break because I've got to
Speaker 1: concentrate on filming. So for the next few weeks, I'm
Speaker 1: going to rerelease some all time classic episodes. I'll do
Speaker 1: a little intrade for him, but I don't really have
Speaker 1: time to record brand new ones for a few weeks,
Speaker 1: so give me a break. I hope that's all right.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the old classics. I'll put out
Speaker 1: ones you haven't heard in ages. Some you might have missed,
Speaker 1: the ones that I think are very very special. I
Speaker 1: mean they're all special, but the most special ones. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Not that you have favorites, but
Speaker 1: I've got favorites, but you should now favorites. They're all
Speaker 1: my favorites for all my babies. I do hope you
Speaker 1: understand and you can manage without brand new ones for
Speaker 1: a few weeks. Thank you so much to Russell for
Speaker 1: giving me his time. Go see his shows on Netflix
Speaker 1: and What's Their Russell howard Our on Skymac. Thanks to
Speaker 1: Scrupious Piper and the distraction pieces of Network. Thanks to
Speaker 1: Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to Akas for hosting it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics at least align
Speaker 1: them for the photography. Come and join me next week
Speaker 1: where I will be doing a classic rewind Epp and
Speaker 1: all time classic going way back in a day. You're
Speaker 1: going to love it. I hope you're all well. Thank
Speaker 1: you all for listening, and that is it for now.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, have a lovely week and please, now
Speaker 1: more than ever, be excellent to each other. He took
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