1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Well we have come out. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: You get to saying you a con. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 3: Will be. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Col and if you want a little MAGII. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: I come along. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: And after Rowe was eradicated, Maga radicals open the floodgates 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: for draconian the cool bands on women's choice across America. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Biden does. I saw him yesterday making that speech. I mean, 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry he's cadaver like, but his brain is good. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: He's still great. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 4: And when I was vice president, things were kind of 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: bad during the pandemic. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And what happened was Rock said to me, go to Detroit, 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: help fix it. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: I want to make a difference, difference. 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I want to be heard, want to change team. Minus 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five days until election day. 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 3: Get out and vote, vote, vote, Come in to. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Your SENTI. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Don't play our guests all and saying you a conscious song. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: From coast to coast, from border to border, from sea 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: to shining sea. 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Sean Kennedy is on, Hey. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: Sean Hannity on a well deserved long holiday weekend, and 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: I hate to see him go. But you know what, 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: I love it when I have a chance to be 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: with all of you. 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: It is rose. 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: I've been with you before many times and I'm so 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: glad to be here with you again today. So I've 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: got lots to talk about. We've got so many great 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: guests coming up. I want to throw the phone number 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: out at you right now, just so you can get 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: your calls in, because I want to talk to you 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: about so many things. 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Israel. We're going to talk 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: about the economy. 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 4: I want to talk about what the football player said 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: about women in the world workplace. That was Harrison but Ker, 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: and I have a little take of my own that 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: I want to share with you, but I'd love to 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: hear from you as well. The phone number is eight 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 4: hundred and nine four one sean. That's eight hundred nine 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: four one seven three two six nine four one seven 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: three two six and also follow me please, I would 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: love it if you would do this. My websites are 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: Roseanplugged dot com and I also have a women's ministry 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: page and that is She Is Called by Him dot com. 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: And if you subscribe, you will you'll receive my weekly newsletter. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: It's free and we always get a lot of prairie quests. 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: Lately we've been getting a lot of prairie requests. I 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: wonder why Maybe because it looks like everything's going to 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: hell in a handbasket. Possibly, But Facebook is Rose unplugged, 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: and also she is called by him. Instagram rose unplugged 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: with the number one after it, and Instagram for the 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: ministry is she is called by Him. 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: And I have a podcast. You can hear it. 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: It's Rose Unplugged on Apple, Spotify, Rumble, YouTube, everywhere on 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: all platforms. 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: You know. 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: I want to talk to you all today just a 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: little bit about hesitancy, because you know, I think about 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: how so many of us feel that we are to 64 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: go out there and make a difference, that we are 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: to stand up for what we believe is right and true, 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: and yet there's that hesitancy. You know, you feel it 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: sometimes and who can blame you? 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: I do too. 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: When you're being labeled at school board meetings for being 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: a terrorist because you spoke up, when others are criticizing you, 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: or you're being attacked at work or other places in 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: your neighborhood because of what you believe in. Sometimes we 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: become reluctant to act because of that hesitancy. But you 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: know what future generations are counting on us, you know, 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: And I want to talk to women too. Listen, ladies, 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: I know this is rough because you carry the weight 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: of the world on your shoulders, and if you've got children, 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: it's even a heavier burden than the rest. But women 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: who have pushed through difficult times and use their gifts 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: to lead movements, raise up strong family members, and nurture 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: others are the women we want to think about. And 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 4: I wanted to actually talk to you about how much 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: influence we really do have as women and guys. You're 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 4: included in this conversation as well, because I have examples 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: of men and women who have done great things. But 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: guess what. They had to push through the hesitancy. They 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: had to push through the reluctancy. They had to actually 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: get up and make a stand. And sometimes that's scary, 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: and we are living in scary times, make no doubt 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: about it. But we've got to put our influence to use, 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: and we've got to push through the hesitation, beyond our 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: comfort zone and do what we believe we were meant 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: to do and why we were here in the first place. 94 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: I'm going to just take you back to Scripture number one. 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: That's my first example. Don't worry, I'm not going to 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: stay there. I'm going into other places, but I think 97 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: this is a really good story to be reminded of, 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: and that is the story of Djokobb. She devised a 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: very clever plan to save her son's life. She loved 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: him so much. Now you know who she was, right, 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: the mother of Moses. And at the time that he 102 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: was born, the pharaoh had just about had it. A 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: second decree went out all children male children under the 104 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: age of two needed to be thrown into the Nile River. 105 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: Not kidding you, that is exactly what was going on. 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: She defied him. After she had her son, she kept 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: him hidden for three months. When she could no longer 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: hide him at home, she devised a plan. And I'll 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: think about this as a parent. She knew that one 110 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: choice to keep him at home was certain death. The 111 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: other choice that she had could mean death. But it 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: was a decision she had to make and a chance 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 4: she had to take, and she did. She put together 114 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 4: a waterproof basket, sends it down the Nile. It just 115 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: so happens her daughter Mariam is there. He's in the reeds, 116 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: and Miriam points the baby out to the pharaoh's daughter. 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: The pharaoh takes the baby as her own and then 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: Mariam suggests that the pharaoh's daughter asked a woman to 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 4: come in and nurse the child, and the princess agrees. 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: And guess who it was? It was Moses's mom that came. 121 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: Miriam ran and got her, brought her back. So, and 122 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: let me tell you something. They paid her to nurse 123 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: her own child. But I bring this story up because 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: that took a lot of courage. She had to put 125 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: aside any reluctance to act, any hesitation that she might 126 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: have had, and choose the difficult thing to do. As 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: a result, think about this, That son of hers led 128 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: a nation out of slavery. Amazing. And then I've talked 129 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: about Queen Esther before. You know the whole story in 130 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: the end, the bottom line there with that story is 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: that that famous line, you know it? How do you 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: know that you were not here for such a time 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: as this what Esther did? And she was living a 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: very comfortable life. She didn't have to do anything, but 135 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: she did, and she needed to provide relief and deliverance 136 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: for a nation, the Jewish nation. So my question to 137 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: you is, how do you know that you haven't been 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: born to this nation for such a time as this, 139 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: because what she did saved a nation of not just that. 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: The Jews weren't just delivered, they were empowered because of 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: her boldness and her courage. Read the whole story, we'll 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: see what I'm talking about. 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: But neither she. 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: Nor her uncle, who encouraged her to go to the 145 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: king and make her request, had the power or position 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: alone to deliver those people. It was only when they 147 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: acted together that they were able to lead God's people 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: away from the threat of death. And then I've talked 149 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: about the Founding Fathers before that moment where they hesitated 150 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: when they were about to sign the Declaration of Independence. 151 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: We are declaring ourselves independent from tyrannical rule. And they 152 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: knew what that could mean their very lives, their fortunes, 153 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: their sacred honor. And there was an account about the 154 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: hesitancy in that room as they were preparing to sign, 155 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: and nobody was really anxious to pick up the pen 156 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: and sign, until John Witherspoon stood up and he said, 157 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 4: there is a tide in the affairs of men. 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Do you perceive it now? Before you? 159 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: To hesitate is to consent to your own slavery. They 160 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: signed it took courage, They had to push through the 161 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: reluctance to act the hesitation that they were feeling. They signed. 162 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: And then I'm going to give you a somewhat more 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: recent example because I love the story. We don't talk 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: about this kind of thing so much. 165 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: But Susan B. 166 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: Anthony and Elizabeth Katie Stanton, they were really good friends 167 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: and it came out of the suffrage movement. But you 168 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: know what, I want to go even back further before 169 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: they began the suffrage movement, because they were working on 170 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 4: the anti slavery movement. They were so involved in that. See, 171 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: what happened at that time was the second grade Awakening. 172 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: By the way, before those men bought in the Revolutionary War, 173 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: those men wanted independence from a tyrant. There was a 174 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 4: great awakening, spiritual awakening, and that isn't emboldened them as well. 175 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: So here we had a second grade awakening. One of 176 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: the platforms of that second grade awakening, the thing that 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: the pastors were talking about was abolishing slavery. It had 178 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: to be abolished. They said it was a sin, that 179 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: slavery was a sin. So these women were influenced by 180 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: that second grade awakening and they're working on the abolishment 181 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: of slavery. And then they start thinking to themselves and 182 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: talking to each other, and they say, you know, we 183 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: do believe that all men are created equal. 184 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's why we were so committed to this movement. 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: But if we believe that all men are created equal, 186 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: then we've got to believe that women are as well. 187 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: And thus began the suffrage movement. They were greatly influenced 188 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: by the second grade Awakening. And don't you think for 189 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: emnent it that they didn't experience times of reluctancy. They 190 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: didn't experience times of hesitancy because think about this, the 191 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: men didn't want them to vote. They didn't like the 192 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: whole idea. There was probably breakups in the family, arguments 193 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: at the dinner table. But they took that courageous step. 194 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: They moved beyond the hesitancy, and they took that courageous step. 195 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: But here's what I want to share with you about 196 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: that story. They never got to false see that in 197 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: the end result because Susan B. Anthony wrote her friend 198 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 4: Elizabeth Katie Stanton on her eighty seventh birthday. It was 199 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: printed in a local newspaper, was in nineteen oh two, 200 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: and she wrote this, It is fifty one years since 201 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: we first met, and we had been busy through every 202 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: one of them, stirring up the world to recognize our effort. 203 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: We little dreamed, though, when we began this contest, optimistic 204 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: with the hope of youth, that a half a century 205 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: later we would be compelled to leave the finish of 206 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: the battle to another generation of women. Wow, a half 207 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: a century later. They never expected that they would have 208 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: to churn that battle over to another generation. My question 209 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: to you is, when we look around us and we 210 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: see what's going on, when we see our liberties being 211 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: taken away from us, when we see a country that 212 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: we barely recognize, even in our own lifetime, that we 213 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: barely recognize, do we want to turn the battle for 214 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: our freedoms, to turn the battle for of our love 215 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: for this country and whatever it takes to save and 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: preserve our freedoms. Do we want to turn that over 217 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: to another generation. I know that you're saying no, we don't. 218 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: But it's going to require us to become courageous. It's 219 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: going to require us to move out of that safe place, 220 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: that place where we have become complacent, to move away 221 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: from the hesitancy and do what we believe we have 222 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: been put here. 223 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: On earth to do. 224 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: Now. 225 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. It might be different for you. 226 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 4: Maybe you should run for the school board, Maybe you 227 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 4: should be voting in this presidential election, because a lot 228 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: of you are saying, well, I don't like either one 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: of them, blah blah blah. You know what, nobody's asking 230 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: you to date anybody. We have a country to save. 231 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: Who's the right person to do that? And you know 232 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: that King Solomon, a very wise man, once said a 233 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 4: very long time ago, anyone who was among the living 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: has hope. And you know where true hope comes from 235 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: the one who created it, and that comes by trusting 236 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: in God. And I believe and I love the one. 237 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to end with this before we go to 238 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: break the quote from Ronald Reagan. Let us be sure 239 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: that those who come after us will say of us 240 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: that in our time we did everything that could be done. 241 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: We finished the race, we kept them free, we kept 242 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: the faith. More of the Sean Hannity Show after this, 243 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: and then I'll take your phone calls too. At one 244 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: eight hundred nine four to one, Sean. That's eight hundred 245 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: nine four one seven three two six nine four one 246 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 4: seven three two six. 247 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Stay with me. My name is Rose. I'm sitting in 248 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: for Sean. 249 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: Hannity today and I will take your phone calls this afternoon. 250 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: The phone number is eight hundred nine four one Sean. 251 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: That's eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. 252 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: And also I just want to say thanks so much 253 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: to Josh McCarthy who is over here at WDBOS studios 254 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: in Orlando. They have allowed me to use the studios 255 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: once again. It was almost a year ago that I 256 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: was here last, So thank you, Josh. And I got 257 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: to see my buddy Joe Kelly, who's on the air 258 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: here at WDBO. And one hundred year anniversary tomorrow for WDBO. 259 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: If you get a chance, let them know that you 260 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: wish them a very happy anniversary, happy birthday. That's awesome, 261 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 4: one hundred years. So anyway, we'll take Tim right now, 262 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: who's calling from Arkansas? 263 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: Hey? 264 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: Tim? 265 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you well? 266 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: Thank you? How are you good? 267 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm good. I want to talk about action steps. I 268 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: really like to get your inputs. You know, I see 269 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: this battle that we're in of good versus evil, and 270 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: I see you know, Biden as an example, canceling student 271 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: debt for those who went to college. But I don't 272 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: know why he would do that or why we would 273 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: allow him to do that. I see him a lot. 274 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: You can't do it, really, but go ahead technically, but 275 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: go ahead. 276 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: Well I think so too, But yeah, open borders by 277 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: his executive orders that were allowing millions and millions in 278 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: and I and the list just goes on and on on, 279 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: you know, like if you're accused in the January sixth event, 280 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: not convicted, but accused, then you can't run for president. 281 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: And so my question for you is, I see these things, 282 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: and I hear these things, and I think, my gosh, 283 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: that's that's not right. What practically can an average American 284 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: what can we do in practical steps to turn the 285 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: tide on many many of these issues? 286 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: That tim is a very thoughtful question and heartfelt I 287 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: can tell. But you know, I have to say that 288 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: in my opinion, I think every one of us has 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: a job or a duty, and I believe that only 290 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: you can answer that question. And I believe that seeking 291 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: out direction from God is really important, particularly right now, 292 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: because what we are facing right now, and you kind 293 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: of touched on this, these are we're making everything political issues. 294 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: But in the end, there are more spiritual issues than 295 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: political and I'll go more into this as we get 296 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: into the program today. Thanks for that call. An honor 297 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: to be sitting in for Sean Hannity today. My name 298 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: is Rose. Check me out on social media Rose Unplugged 299 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: and my podcast Rose Unplugged on all platforms. Joining us 300 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: today is President Trump's for i'mer senior director for National 301 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 4: Security Council. He's now the director of National Security at Heritage, 302 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: and he brings a very unique perspective on the events 303 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 4: that are occurring right now in the Middle East. And 304 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 4: also I want them to give us some history on 305 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: what happened and talk about the great accomplishments from the 306 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: Trump administration where Israel is concerned. 307 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: So please welcome to the show. Robert Greenway. How are you. 308 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Well fine, Thanks very much, Thanks for having me. 309 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: How are you Absolutely I'm doing very well. Thank you. 310 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: Hey. One of the first things I want to talk 311 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 4: to you about, because it's really top of mind for 312 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 4: me right now. Everybody is familiar with George Clooney and 313 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: his wife Amal, and just recently, I think it was 314 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 4: earlier this week, she was one of the legal experts 315 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: who had recommended that we go after with an arrest warrant. 316 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: Not we, but the international courts go after Benjamin Netanyahu 317 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: and Hamas leaders. And I think there was another one 318 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 4: in Israel that she wanted to serve arrest warrants for 319 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: for war crimes, and so as she said that, she 320 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: and other experts in the international law unanimously agreed to 321 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: recommend that the ICC and their chief prosecutor, Kareem Khan 322 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: look and seek out those warrants. Cohn said that he 323 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: intended to do so. Now I know he said that 324 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: on Monday. I think, and usually they say this kind 325 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: of thing could take months, but the idea that this 326 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: is something that they are interested in, and it also 327 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: it seems to me, Robert as an attempt to strike 328 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: a false moral equivalence between a democratic a country that's 329 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: only defending itself against terrorists. 330 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: And a. 331 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 4: Butchering and horrifying Hamas terrorist group. You can't make that 332 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: moral equivalence between the two. They are not equal in 333 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: any way, and to suggest that they are and should 334 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: both be served war on war crime charges, it's just 335 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 4: it's amazing to me. 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, we are exactly right, And that's why I 337 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: think there's been outrage. And it's the reason why the 338 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: United States and other countries, including Israel, never signed the 339 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Rome Agreement that established the International Criminal Courts precisely for 340 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: this reason. It has a history, like too many multilateral 341 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: international organizations, of pursuing very narrow political objectives. Look, it's 342 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: more interesting to look at what the ICC is not investigating. 343 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: They're not investigating the Weiger genocide in China. They're not 344 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: investing the chemical weapons used in the crematoria to get 345 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: rid of the bodies that Basher Alisade and Syria created, 346 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and they're not effectively looking at isis al Qaeda and 347 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: so on the list as long as distinguished. What are 348 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: they looking at the only democratically elected government that is 349 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: by all international standards, you know, pursuing a campaign and 350 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: minimizing civilian casualties and taking great pains to do it. 351 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: And so look, this is the type of organization that 352 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: we've railed against for reasons. They've given us yet another 353 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: res and now the reality is that this is going 354 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: to impede travel for Israeli citizens that are under this indictment. 355 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: So both the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister during 356 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: a time of war are I'm not going to be 357 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: able to travel to European capitals to coordinate aid and 358 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: other critical activities during a conflict. And it sends exactly 359 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: the wrong signal of moral equivalence that you pointed out, 360 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: and that has been the concern with the court all along, 361 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: and it needs to be defunded. It needs to be 362 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: severed in all cases. It's legitimacy is absolutely absence. 363 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: I just found these absolutely astounding. I can't even believe. 364 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: It's like you scratch your head and say, how did 365 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: we get here? Where is just this isn't even logical 366 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: in any sense. But you know what, We've been watching 367 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 4: as events have unfolded since October seventh, and none of 368 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: this seems right. And I have to tell you honestly, Robert, 369 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: I just recently on my podcast interviewed Stefan Hess and 370 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 4: he was a child who was taken into bergen Belsen 371 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: and he survived, and his sister survived, his mom and dad. Luckily, 372 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: they all as a family were able to make it through. 373 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: But the stories that he told were horrifying. But I 374 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: couldn't help think about some of the butchery and horror 375 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: that we watched unfold on October seventh, and then to 376 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: see support for they say Palestine, but come on, this 377 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: was a terrorist attack on the Jewish people, and it's 378 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: the world seems upside down to me right now. 379 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: It really does. 380 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: It absolutely does, and it's disconcerting, to say the least, 381 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: especially when it shows up inside the United States. It's 382 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: bad enough to see this in other parts of the world, 383 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: but we see this on college campuses. Most these people 384 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: couldn't point out Israel on a map, tell you about 385 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: the issues of the history. And nonetheless they're caring banners 386 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: and they're animated about it. And obviously there's an infrastructure 387 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: that's supporting this. But you're exactly right that this is 388 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: the kind of thing we look back historically in the 389 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: thirties and when well, surely that can't happen again. Surely 390 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: we would never tolerate that type of behavior. And now 391 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: we're watching it again inside our own borders, and it's 392 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: being exploited by multiple parties, I think, and that convergence 393 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: is disturbing. And the fact that these terrorist groups now 394 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: have found affiliated individuals now and there's an open border 395 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: where we know they are infiltrating, and numbers that are 396 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: just staggering to comprehend the threat to you know, to 397 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Americans as well. It's not Jewish Americans, but all Americans 398 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: is absolutely off the charts. And this is something that's 399 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: going to require concerted attention to reverse. Oh. 400 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 401 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: Now you have a unique perspective on the Abraham Accords, 402 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: and I think that to bring that up right now 403 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: is significant because you know, there was such a great 404 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: effort that was made by President Trump. A lot of 405 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: presidents said that they were going to do some of 406 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: the things that Trump did in the Middle East, but 407 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: they never really did. And Trump has said that he 408 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: had a lot of pushback from heads of countries and 409 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: so forth. And I, in fact, I kind of remember 410 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: him telling a story about how he didn't take any 411 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: calls until he announced, you know, that it was a 412 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: done deal. And I just thought it was a beautiful 413 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: thing that happened, and he just said, let's just do it, 414 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, and he said, people were angry for you 415 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: for a few days, and they all went back to 416 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 4: the table, and you know, he ended the nuclear deal. 417 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: He said that, he said once was the most important thing, 418 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: that was more important than anything else that he had done. 419 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: But when you look at you you can bring to. 420 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: Us a perspective that many of us, you know, really 421 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: can never experience during that time. Would you share a 422 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: little bit of what you were thinking when all of 423 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: this was playing out? 424 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Sure, and I know it seems for most that it 425 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: happened suddenly, it happened quickly, and it all happened, you know, 426 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: within the span of a few months at the tail 427 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: end of the Trump administration. And it's certainly true that 428 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: we didn't advertise the negotiations. The conversations were kept with 429 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: a very small group of people. We're talking about fifteen 430 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: people love it on the US side, and a smaller 431 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: number each of the countries involved. The reality is it 432 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: took years to get to that point. And what I 433 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: mean is that the approach that President Trump took to 434 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: the le least from the very beginning was come front 435 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: our adversaries and isis in Iran. Chiefly, deny them access 436 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: to resources, eliminate their leadership, and then embrace our partners 437 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: and allies, and work to support and strengthen their positions 438 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to have this disproportionate presence 439 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: of American resources in the bed least in perpetuity and 440 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: he effectively did that while managing global markets. We took 441 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Iran and Venezuela off the oil market and kept prices 442 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: at fifty five dollars a barrel, and Americans didn't have 443 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: to pay the burden that they're paying now. So not 444 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: only has the Biden administration ushered in a concerted effort 445 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: not to attack our adversaries or constrain their resources, we're 446 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: providing them unlimited access around over one hundred billion dollars 447 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: since January twenty twenty one they're using to fuel terrorism, 448 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: including groups like Commas, and instead, what we're doing is 449 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: an unprecedented international campaign to undermine the democratically elected government 450 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: in Israel, our closest partner in the region. And so 451 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: the world is, as you said before, upside down, and 452 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: our partners in the region are not just scratching their heads, 453 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: not just frustrated, they're despondent, and they're deeply concerned about 454 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: the US approach to the region. And add to it 455 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: that Americans are paying twenty percent more because of disrupted 456 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: shipping and trade lanes, and obviously a lot more at 457 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: the pump for gas because of this mismanagement. So it 458 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: impacts us all whether we like it or not. Yeah. 459 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: And one of the things too that I thought was 460 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: significant was that it proved that the Palestinian issue wasn't 461 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: at that time, it was no longer an obstacle. I mean, 462 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: he just found his way around at I just thought 463 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: it was the most clever that I thought. It was amazing. 464 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: How you go ahead, Yeah, No, it's exactly right. I mean, look, 465 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: if you talk to people in the region, and I 466 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: spent most of my adult life there, you know, their 467 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: primary threat to their national security is Iraq, and second 468 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: would be terrorist groups like Isis when they control that 469 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: much territory, right, And their third concern is long term 470 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: economic integration with their neighbors, right to make their long 471 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: term goals. Knowing that the transition from a petro based 472 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: economy to something else and all those goals led President 473 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Trump to rightly get to the conclusion that the future 474 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: was integrating normalizing diplomatic relations with Israel. The Israel, the 475 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Israeli Palestinian conflict is not a vital national literacy the 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: United States. Iran and its nuclear programs certainly is. Global 477 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: energy markets and trades certainly are. 478 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a game changer too. 479 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: You know, in the Middle East, because all the opportunities 480 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 4: that you've discussed, the economics of it all, it just 481 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: all led to growth in that area. Now, let me 482 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: ask you this, based on what you can see happening 483 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: right now, a new unrest is. 484 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: Unfolding in the Middle East. 485 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: How what are your thoughts of the future about the 486 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: future and everything that was accomplished during the Trump administration, 487 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: how do you feel when you look at things right now? 488 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Are you concerned? 489 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: Because I read something Linda had sent me a tweet 490 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: that you had sent out and this was almost a 491 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: half a year ago. Who was in October of twenty three, 492 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: and you talked about all of the things that happened 493 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: and there was no war. You talked about moving the 494 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: embassy to Jerusalem, no war, getting out of the nuclear 495 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: or Iran nuclear deal, no war, and all the things 496 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: that you undertook during the Trump administration. When you look 497 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 4: at those accomplishments, here we are now, after everything that 498 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: we've seen happen since October, are you hopeful that things 499 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: can turn around? Have we just has the whole everything 500 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: that has been invested in that area, has it been disrupted? 501 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's been significantly disruptive, and this is the worst 502 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I've seen the region in my lifetime. I think you'd 503 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: have to go back to nineteen seventy nine to find 504 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: a similar convergence of crises across the region simultaneously in 505 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: the economic insecurity domain. So this is a serious problem 506 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: and all the result of bad policies pursued by the 507 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: US and the Bide administration. Now, I think that this 508 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: can be reversed because the fundamentals are still there, are 509 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: partners and allies all still want the same things. We 510 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: still have convergent interests, and I think we have the capability, 511 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: and then we certainly have the desire. I think to 512 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: go back, hopefully in a new Trump administration, and I 513 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: think we can revert, but it's going to take time. Now, 514 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: that's assuming that Iran doesn't test a nuclear web. Right, 515 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: Let's tell you they're at nuclear threshold, the closest they've 516 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: ever been with the five hundred centrifuges online when we 517 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: transition to Biden administration, they're now have over five thousand. 518 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: They're a week away from enough. Thisis all material test device. 519 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: So if they don't develop a weapon, because if they do, 520 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: we have to pursue a more complicated approach, but in 521 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: the interim and absent that, I think we can reverse it. 522 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: It's going to take time, but it's necessary, vital, and 523 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: I do think it's possible, and I. 524 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: Hope that we have the time. I really do. 525 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: I have like two minutes here, real quick, very quick. 526 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: The Butcher of Iron. I couldn't believe that the State 527 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: Department released that statement and express their official condolences for 528 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: him and the Foreign Minister and the other delegation. 529 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: But that was just an outrage. 530 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: I mean, is there anybody there that understands what's going on. 531 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: In the world today? That's the question I've got. 532 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's absolutely mind boggling. The un you could 533 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: almost see them doing it, because that's what you'd expect 534 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: at Turtle Bay. You doing it was bizarre. The State 535 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: Department absolutely bizarre. The chaplain on the Senate floor. It's 536 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: absolutely staggering that a man responsible for four thousand innocent 537 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: civilian deaths and making that perfectly legal in Iran and 538 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: endearing himself with a supreme leader gets condolences is absolutely 539 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: mind boggling. But it shows you just how disconnected and 540 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: what an alternate reality to bide administration is living it. 541 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really scary. 542 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 4: I have to say thank you so much for everything, 543 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 4: not only being on the show today, but everything that 544 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: you did as well as the Senior director for National 545 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: Security Council. I appreciate you. You're very fortunate. You've played 546 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: a great, big, beautiful part in history, world history. Robert Greenway, 547 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: thank you so much for joining us today. 548 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: My pleasure. 549 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Thank Careen. All Right, we'll be back with more. 550 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: I want to weigh in a little bit more about 551 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: the Butcher of Iran coming up, and your phone calls 552 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 4: at one eight hundred nine for one Sean eight hundred 553 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 4: nine for one Sean. 554 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean Handany Show. 555 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: My name is Rose and I'm sitting in for him today, 556 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: so listen. Not only have a couple of minutes, but 557 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: there's a couple of things I want to go through. 558 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: We do have phone calls. I would love it if 559 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: Ralph would hang on the line because Ralph, I'm actually 560 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 4: going to address that subject coming up. Do you guys 561 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: remember the commercial I can bring him the bacon fry 562 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: it up in the pan. 563 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh. 564 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that and I'm going to 565 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: play that for you. 566 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: I remember that when I was just at the age 567 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: that that could have influenced me and might have to 568 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: a certain degree. So we're going to talk about that. 569 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: Also coming up, we have Derek Morgan. He's the executive 570 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: vice president of the Heritage Foundation. 571 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to him about the economy. 572 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: We're going to talk to him about all of them 573 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: that we are paying a seven point seven billion dollar 574 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: bailout for student loans. And when I say we are paying, 575 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: we are paying it. 576 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: That's right. You and I not to. 577 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: Mention oil being released from our reserves. We're going to 578 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: talk about that coming up as well. But before we 579 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: get to all of that, I just want to quickly 580 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: give you the phone numbers so you know to call in. 581 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: We'll take it phone calls eight hundred ninety four to 582 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: one Sean eight hundred ninety four one seven, three two six. Also, 583 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: please do me a favor. Will you check out my 584 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: podcast It's Rose Unplugged. You can find me on Apple, Spotify, Rumble, YouTube. 585 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: And the thing is, I would love it if you 586 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: would follow like listen of course, and then my website 587 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: is roseunplugged dot com, Facebook, Rose Unplugged, Instagram, also Rose 588 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: Unplugged with a number one. But I do have a 589 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: women's ministry and I'm told by one of my employees 590 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: that we're getting a lot of prairiequests in just after 591 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: we even started the show. 592 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: Today. We do take the prayer requests. They are listen. 593 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: Nobody needs to know they're anonymous, but we have a 594 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: team of women that pray for you when you send 595 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: in those requests, and you can do that as she 596 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: is called by him dot com. 597 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: All right, make sure you give me a call. 598 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: I want to talk to you, and also stay tuned 599 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 4: so that you can hear what we have to talk 600 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: about with Derek Morgan and the a con to me. 601 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: So this is the Sean Handity Show. My name is 602 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: Rose Tennant. Don't go away. 603 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: I'll be back with lots more