1 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Welcome on and all to the Heathery Territory Podcast. My 2 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: name is Sean Colemen. Hope wherever you are and wherever 3 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: you are listening, that you were having a wonderful, wonderful 4 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Friday evening. I've got college football playoffs going on, basketball 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: going on as well. Hope you've had a great week. 6 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Me and Steven Tolbert are back with you once again. 7 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Not much to talk about in terms of off season movement, 8 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: but something that we did talk with you about a 9 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: couple of storylines off the field we discussed with you 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: about a week ago. We got some major updates on that, 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: and that, of course, is the future of Braves broadcasting. 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: That Let's talk a bit about where free agent, where 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: free agency is trending, and how the NLASE is kind 14 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: of in the middle of that. All that on this 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: evening's episode and is always here with me once again, 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: my podcast partner, one of the best when it comes 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: to breaking down the Braves at Steven Tolbert. Steven, how 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: are you, sir? 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? Yeah, it's we got some news a 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: couple of days ago that we I mean, we knew 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: it was coming. It was it's been coming down the 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: tracks for about two weeks now, but we got the 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: official word, I think on Wednesday, that the Braves and 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of other teams had canceled their their TV 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: contracts with the Main Street Sports, which is the owner 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: of the RSNS that the Braves and a bunch of 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: other teams use for their broadcasting rights. So, and there 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: was a lot of questions, and I spent some time 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: on Twitter, I think on Wednesday, trying to answer a few, 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: but there were so many questions. And this is not 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: something that people really track follow, which I understand. It's 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: it's a bit in you get a bit in the 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: weeds where that people just want to know where they 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: can watch their favorite team, Like that's the nuts and 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: bolts of it. And I get that, and I don't 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: expect people to really follow the stuff all that too closely. 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: But we've made a you know, obviously, we told you 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 2: guys that we would track it and report on it 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: as soon as stuff happened, and stuff happened, so it 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: was time to do a show kind of dedicated to 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: everything that's gone down. You're muted already, I mean not 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: even I'm two minutes in. 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: It's important to be focused on this because, I mean, 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: folks want to know where to watch the Braves, and 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: let's be honest, in general, when it comes to sports nowadays, 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: you've just got so many places. It's great to have 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: so many places that you can watch games, but when 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: it comes to a team that you cheer for, it's 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: hard to really pinpoint where you can consistently watch the 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: team that you cheer for. And that's what has been 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, pretty awesome about baseball and basketball and things 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: like that, at with Ballely what became FanDuel, mainstream Sports 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's that was a place for folks, 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: especially in the mid South and the Southeast, to know 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: where they can go to consistently watch their team. That 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: should remain the case, but now you just don't know 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: where you're going to be able to do that. So 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: those details are important, and so Stephen, let's start there. 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: We've discussed, we've discussed last year about what's kind of 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: led us to be in here, what kind of has 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: resulted in the fact that you know, we eventually were 62 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: going to likely see the Braves being a different source 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to broadcasting. But what are the options, 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: what are the potential outcomes. Let's start there, because based 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: on what direction the Braves could potentially go in the 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: short term in the long term, that really will kind 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: of help folks understand. Okay, where do I need to 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: invest my money and my resources to potentially watch the Braves, 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: you know now? Or can I do something that maybe 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: you will allow for me to watch them years to come. 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: That's up in the ear. 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to kind of go back a 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: year if people will remember when what was formerly Diamond 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Sports Group was in bankruptcy and the Braves obviously are 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: a part of the nine MLB teams that are under 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: RSN contracts Regional Sports Network contracts all with this Diamond 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: Sports Group. It was formerly called Bally Sports. It was 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: formally before that, I think Fox Sports. Right now it's 79 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: called Fandel Sports. Again, I do want to remind people 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Bally Fandel those companies have nothing to do with the 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: running of these are those companies just bought the naming rights. 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: I keep I still keep people see people saying, well, 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: these sports betting companies are ruining everything. Fandel has nothing 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: to do with the running of these rsns. They literally 85 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 2: just bought the name. So a year ago, Diamond Sports 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: Group actually made it out of bankruptcy court, which was 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: a surprise. A lot of people thought that was for them. 88 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: They made it out they can convinced a judge that 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: they could restructure, and the way they restructured was they 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: changed the name. It's a new company called main Street 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: Sports Group, and they renegotiated all of their deals with 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: their MLB, NBA, NHL teams, and the deal they put 93 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: in place at least convinced a judge on the short 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: term that they could pay their they could pay down 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: their debt, that their creditors were going to get reimbursed, 96 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: and they allowed them to restructure under this Main Street Sports. Well, 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: we got worried about two weeks ago that this main 98 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: Street Sports Group has already started missing payments to teams. 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: So teams sell their rights, they sell their TV rights 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: to these networks and in exchange, these networks pay the 101 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: teams every month, you know, as a premium basically. And 102 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: we got report that this main Street Sports Group had 103 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: already missed a payment to the Saint Louis Cardinals, I think, 104 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: and which is obviously not a good sign. And a 105 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: report came right at the right after Christmas that this 106 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: main Street Sports was very close to just completely dissolving. 107 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: They were out of money, they had no money left, 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: they were trying to sell to a different London based group, 109 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: and everything was looking pretty dire. And then we got 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: word two days ago that all of the MLB teams 111 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: canceled their contracts with main Street Sports, which is for 112 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: the Braves purposes, FanDuel Sports Network, which is where you 113 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: watched the games last year. So what that leads to is, 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: just as we sit here today, we don't know where 115 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: the Braves are going to be on TV next year. 116 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: There are two outcomes that are far and away more 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: likely than any other outcome. One is they can always 118 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: renegotiate a new deal with either Main Street Sports or 119 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: if they sell to somebody else, whoever that parent company is, 120 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: and they can just, you know, negotiate essentially a one 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: year deal and leave all the distribution exactly the same. 122 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: And that's probably the easiest because it's just it's pretty seamless. 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: Everybody would be able to watch the Braves the same 124 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: way they watched them last year. It would be a 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: one year deal, and then it would give the Braves 126 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: a bit of runway to come up with a plan 127 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: for what to do after twenty twenty six, so that 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: is a possibility. The most likely possibility, however, is that 129 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: this Main Street Sports ends up in bankruptcies again and 130 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: maybe doesn't make it out this time, and MLB actually 131 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: takes over distribution of the Braves broadcast the way they 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: have for a bunch of other teams. There's like six 133 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: or seven teams at MLB is currently controlling the distribution 134 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: for because these all these rsns are in just dire straight. 135 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this RSN model has been dying very slowly 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: for like twenty years now, and teams keep going back 137 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: to it because it's far and away the most profitable 138 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: do your TV distribution is having these these networks pay 139 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: you these massive amounts of money. The problem is because 140 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: they're paying all of this money, and they're having to 141 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: pay all the money to actually put on the broadcast, 142 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: Like they have to pay for all the talent, they 143 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: have to pay for all the cameras, the trucks, the producers, 144 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: pregame and postgame. They're footing the bill for all that, 145 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: and then they're also footing the bill to pay these 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: fees to these teams. It's just very hard for these 147 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 2: companies to actually make money, Like it's just they're always 148 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: going to operate in the red, and it's just how 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: much money he are you willing to lose before you 150 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: finally call it quits. And it looks like the parent 151 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: company that owns these rsins is finally ready to call 152 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: it quits. So that's a long way of saying the 153 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: most likely outcome for twenty twenty six is MLB owned 154 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: the Braves broadcasting rights for twenty twenty six, and then 155 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: after that the Braves would be pretty much free agents 156 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: and could do a number of things which we can 157 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: go into if you want to, But that that's where 158 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: it stands today. And I know there's there's more specifics 159 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: we can get into, but that is the thirty thousand 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: foot view of what's. 161 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Happened in relation to what could be next, the options 162 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: that make sense for twenty twenty six, you know, in 163 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: terms of MLB having the rights, what have you? What 164 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: could be the long term option? And I think that 165 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: it's worth you know, kind of discussing. You know, where 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: we've seen kind of you know, the broadcast right serving 167 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: as an area of profit for the team or you know, 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: money for them to work with for the team. You know, 169 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: for a while, we heard about it, especially when the 170 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Braves were going through you know, some of their rebuilding 171 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: in the late twenty tens and you know, the the 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, middle of last decade. The fact that the 173 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: Braves had one of you know the worst TV contracts 174 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: in terms of you know value that was out there. I, 175 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: me and you were talking about it before this episode, 176 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: and kind of in line with when they moved into 177 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Truest Park at the time SunTrust Park, they renegotiated the 178 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: deal to make it a bit more profit, will be 179 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: a bit more league average. Well, of course, now what 180 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: has occurred is that now a big source of the 181 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: profit for the Braves is the battery they just have. 182 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: They absolutely hit a home run, no pun intended with 183 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: a all around ballpark experience outside of just the game itself, 184 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and they thus from that have been able to profit 185 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: from it. So relying on the TV deal for that 186 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: quote unquote money to work with is not as big 187 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: of a need. Right With that being said, and the 188 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that overall this this structure of regional sports you 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: know setups being you know, a TV deal that could 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: serve as you know, giving you given franchises money to 191 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: work with. It seems like the Braves should just once 192 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: again take care of themselves, just like they did with 193 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: the Battery, and they built up that opportunity to where 194 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I've heard you and many others say they're basically printing 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: money through what you know, the activity at the battery. 196 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: It may make the most sense to where they come 197 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: up their own network because then all allegiances, you know, 198 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: all rights, you know, all you know, whatever tape you 199 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: got to go through to get stuff done, you're in 200 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: control of it. And you also get direct profits from it. 201 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's plenty of opportunity around Atlanta 202 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and the region and things such as that where you 203 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: could make that into a very profitable venture. So in 204 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: terms of they made some good decisions financially to support 205 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: the ball club now and into the future. When it 206 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: comes to finances, coming up with their own TV network 207 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: seems to be the way to go. 208 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was another question that people asked a lot. 209 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: Could the Braves just do that now? And the answer 210 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: to that is it's it's a really tough spot in 211 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: the calendar to try to get that put together for 212 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season, that's not realistic to do 213 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: for in the next two months basically when games start, 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: or at least spring training games start. That is I 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: think the long term goal. I will say this, the 216 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: Braves have a big enough TV market, because the Braves 217 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: essentially have a monopoly on the southeastern part of the country, 218 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: that they could one hundred percent justify their own TV 219 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: deal are their own TV network one hundred percent. If 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: the Yankees can do it, the Dodgers can do it, 221 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: The Braves TV market is is massive, so they could 222 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: do it. The reason that teams are hesitant to do 223 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: that is because while you do control everything, you also 224 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: are responsible for all the costs of everything. And like 225 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: I was just saying, with these regional sports networks, they 226 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: just write a big fat check to the team and 227 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: then they handle all the cost of everything else. And 228 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: that's for the teams. That's a you know, that's an 229 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: A plus deal. We just get all the money and 230 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: somebody else handles all the cost. And as long as 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: somebody's willing to say yes to that, then they're gonna 232 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: keep doing it. And that's why, you know, I've had 233 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: people ask, well, if these regional sports networks have been 234 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: dying so long and so slowly. Why do teams keep 235 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: signing up for them? Because it's a trum this deal 236 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: for the teams. They don't have to worry about any 237 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: of the distribution, any of the cost, and they just 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: get big fat checks every month and it helps pay 239 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: for a lot of things, and so long term, I 240 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: do think that's the direction the Braves should go, but 241 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if they didn't go that. 242 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised at all if they called 243 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: like Amazon or Netflix and said, hey, do you want 244 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: our streaming rights? Do you want our distribution rights? Like 245 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds good in theory to have your 246 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: own network, but there's a lot of cost associated with it. 247 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: So I would not be surprised if they said no 248 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: to that. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a 249 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: more traditional network and asked them if they wanted I mean, 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, I saw everybody saying call TBS and get 251 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: them back on the superstation. I don't know if they're 252 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: gonna do that, but I wouldn't have Listen, what's your 253 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: free agents? And you've got a bit of runway to 254 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: work with. There's a lot of options out there, and 255 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: I think streaming, especially Netflix and Amazon specifically, and probably Apple, 256 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: the big ones that are a lot of people already have. 257 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: I think at some point a team is gonna make 258 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: a deal with one of those networks. I don't know 259 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: if it'll be the Braves. I would be it's gonna 260 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: be fascinating. But yes, to answer your question, that is 261 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: a viable option after this year. Now for this year, 262 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: it's almost certainly gonna have to if they don't renegotiate 263 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: a new deal with the same company, it's gonna have 264 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: to be MLB that runs things for twenty twenty six. 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: And I do want to talk about that for one 266 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: second because there was a lot of questions about this. 267 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: So the way it's happening for other teams is if 268 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: you have MLB dot tv and you're out of market, 269 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: then you've always been able to watch the Braves on 270 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: MLB dot tv, so you're you would be unaffected. If 271 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: MLB dot tv is the way you've watched the Braves 272 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: because you're an out of market fan, that is, you're 273 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: not in the Braves TV footprint, then nothing changes for you. 274 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: If you're in market, you've never been able to watch 275 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: the Braves on MLB dot TV because there's been blackouts, 276 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: and people are very people. I understand people hate blackouts, 277 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: but blackouts are a necessity when you are taking so 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: much money from these networks, because what you're doing is 279 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: you're selling your fees to a network. The network is 280 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: selling their channel to a cable company, and the cable 281 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: company is selling the whole package of channels to consumers 282 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: as a cable subscription. So that is the economic chain, right, 283 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: and it ends with you buying a cable subscription. So 284 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: teams cannot allow you to watch in market games via 285 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: something else other than cable subscriptions and take all this 286 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: money from these networks. They can't do both. So that's 287 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: why blackouts exist. They exist to force you to buy 288 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: the local TV distribution. Well, if we get to a 289 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: point where there is no local TV distribution anymore, then 290 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: MLB will almost certainly just launch a package where fans 291 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: could buy probably a season worth of Braves games on 292 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: MLB dot TAM for like one hundred bucks or a 293 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: hundred I don't know what it would be. I think 294 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: for the I think for the padres it was like 295 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: one hundred bucks for the season. I think for the 296 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: Diamondbacks it was like eighty bucks for the season. The 297 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: Braves are a much bigger market, so I'm guessing it 298 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: would be more than that. I'm guessing be like one 299 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: P fifty or something. I don't know, but the point is, 300 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: as an in market fan, you would have access to 301 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: watch the Braves via MLB dot tv, which you've never 302 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: had before. That's never even been an option for you. 303 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: It would probably be just a separate package where it's 304 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: like a Brave's only package that you buy, and effectively 305 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: it would replace you know, a lot of people pay 306 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: for a cable subscription specifically to watch the Braves, so 307 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: if you're somebody that does that, you could probably cancel 308 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: that subscription and just buy the Braves package on MLB 309 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: dot TV. We'll get into that more when we know 310 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: exactly where the Braves are going to be next year. 311 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about pricing and stuff, but I'm just I 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: just want to make sure we articulate the most likely 313 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: outcome is that MLB cans distribution. Next year, there will 314 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: be a package for in market fans, which there's never 315 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: been before, and it will probably be separate than the 316 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: actual like standard MLB dot TV package that you normally buy. 317 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: That's what they've done for other fans of other teams 318 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: when this has happened. So that's my guess. But again 319 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: the Devil's and the details on that, and we'll know 320 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: more once we actually land at that point, which will 321 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: we should know in a few weeks, like they have 322 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: to resolve all this pretty quickly. 323 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: And the thing that I'll say is this is that 324 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about the you know, the the 325 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: regional sports network set up, you know, kind of being 326 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: a you know, a dying entity in things such as that, 327 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and you know there's uncertainty when it comes to watching 328 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: the Braves. Well, the thing that I want to make 329 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: clear it's kind of like you're you're leaving from home 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: and you know that you need to get to a destination. 331 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: You're going to get to that destination. In this case, 332 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: it's the ability to watch the Braves that's not going 333 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: to go away. You're going to have a way to 334 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: watch the Braves, an avenue to watch the Braves on 335 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: a vision and into the future. And even when Stephen 336 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: is talking about the fact that it may not necessarily 337 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: be the most beneficial for a third party, who does 338 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: the streaming for the Braves. It's mlbing of itself is 339 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: still going to consistently keep the ability for fans to 340 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: watch games, So that's not in jeopardy. It's just that 341 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: it's more important now than ever to keep in tune 342 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: with what's going on so that you know the details 343 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: of how you can do that. 344 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 2: And go ahead, Sorry, I do want to I want 345 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: to bring up one more thing because this is I 346 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: probably got this question more than anything, and the question 347 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: I got was what happens to Brandon and CJ. 348 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And. 349 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: So this is where it gets a little muddy. So technically, 350 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: Brandon and CJ don't work for the Braves. Technically, Brandon 351 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: and CJ work for Fandels Sports Network. If you ever 352 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: watch the games on TV and they go to a 353 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: shot of the guys in the booth, you'll see the 354 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: little polos they're wearing. It doesn't say Atlanta Braves on 355 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: those polos. It says Fandels Sports Network because the broadcast 356 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: crew works for the network. That's what I was talking 357 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 2: about earlier, where the network is in charge of all 358 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: the cost of running a production, including paying all the talent. 359 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: So Brandon and CJ technically work for the network, so 360 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: if the network goes away, there's a very good chance 361 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: Brandon and CJ go away. However, MLB still needs announcers 362 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: for the Braves game. If they're gonna either if they're 363 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: gonna do local distribution or if they're gonna control the 364 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: local distribution, they still need announcers. So it's very it's 365 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: very possible MLB could just contract with Brandon and CJ 366 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: to still call the games, just not under the Fandel 367 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: Sports Network banner. And now again that's where we get money. 368 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: That's why I have no clue because technically Brandon and 369 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: CJ don't work for the team. So I am in 370 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: the same boat that all of you or most of 371 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: you are in, where I love Brandon and CJ. I think, 372 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: I think the Braves have a top five booth the game, 373 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: and so I want to see those guys stay in 374 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: those roles. But the company they work for, the Braves 375 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: currently do not have a contract with it. That's the 376 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: contract they got terminated two days ago. So there, and 377 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: I saw CJ tweeting about this. It's just kind of 378 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: up in the air. And there again, there's a chance 379 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: the Braves could renegotiate with the same company and and 380 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: just do a one year deal and everything stays exactly 381 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: the same. The more likely outcome is they is they 382 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: let MLB take over. But again, even if MLB takes over, 383 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna need broadcasters to call the Braves games, and 384 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: it's a lot simpler just to use the guys that 385 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: have been doing it for the last couple of years. 386 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: So even if this network goes down, even if these 387 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: are his ns go down, that doesn't necessarily mean Brandon 388 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: and CJ will be gone, but their jobs are very 389 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: much up in the air right now. I feel very 390 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: bad for those guys, for all the production guys, the 391 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: people in the truck, the camera guys, all of those 392 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: people the pregame, postgame, the sideline you know, Paul Bird, 393 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: all those people that you're that you've kind of come 394 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: to know and love on the broadcast. All of those 395 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: people's jobs are just up in the air right now. 396 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: We have no clue what's gonna happen with them. 397 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: It sucks. 398 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: It's one of the worst parts of this whole thing 399 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: is that you know, yes, this RSN model has been 400 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: dying for years, but when it dies, there are real 401 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: people with real jobs and real families who are mostly 402 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: affected by this. It's obviously frustrating as a braceman because 403 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: you don't where you're gonna watch the game. But outside 404 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: and above that, there are like real people with like 405 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: careers and families that they don't know what they're gonna 406 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: do for a job next year. They don't know if 407 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: they have a job next year. So that's the crappy 408 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: part of this, and that's another big piece that we're 409 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: gonna have to see how the dominoes fall, because even 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: if it's not through the r sins, the Braves are 411 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: gonna have to put on a broadcast of some sort. 412 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: So they're gonna need the cameraman, they're gonna need the producers, 413 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna need the trucks, they're gonna need the broadcasters. 414 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a kind of a TVD on 415 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: the broad cast team as a whole. But I think 416 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: my guess is Brandon and CJ will be back next 417 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: year in some capacity. I just don't know exactly what 418 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: that capacity will be. 419 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: Like. The one thing that I can say, and I'm 420 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily saying that this is a big determining factor 421 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: or that it's gonna even play a significant factor, but 422 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I imagine that it could play a role. Is that 423 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: if you are a fan of Brandon and CJ and 424 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: the Braves overall presentation when it comes to watching the games, 425 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: they're friends of the show. We're big fans of them. 426 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: Let it be known. Put it out there on social media, 427 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: because whatever source is going to take on the Braves, 428 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: and if they're looking for announcers, I'm sure they have 429 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: their ways of seeing what the reaction is to Braves 430 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: broadcast in recent seasons, and without a doubt, it has 431 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: been much better with CJ and Brandon than it has 432 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: been previously. No offense to anybody else who was here 433 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: before those guys. Obviously the Braves radio side of things, 434 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: this isn't in the equation, but the Braves, again, I 435 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: would say, have one of the top ten to top 436 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: five radio and TV combos in the game. So this 437 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: isn't saying tag Brandon, tag CG or anything like that, 438 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: but hey, let it be know what you think. Let 439 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: it be known that you love those guys because they 440 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: are an absolutely wonderful combination of not only broadcasters but 441 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: presenting the product of baseball. And I'm sure that that's 442 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: what it will be or whomever takes on the Braves games, 443 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: that's what they would love to have. So, as we mentioned, 444 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: we've used it a little bit, maybe too much in 445 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: this segment of the show, but TVD don't like those 446 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: don't like that acronym or or those letters together a 447 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of times. But make sure that you do stick 448 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: to the details so that you can fully know and 449 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: we'll have you covered on how you can watch Braves 450 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: games this season. But when it comes to watching the 451 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: Braves games, we have a very good idea many of 452 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: the players that are gonna be on this Braves team. 453 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: But what's the latest when it comes to the Braves pursuits, 454 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: they still have a need or two to feel. We'll 455 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: discuss that in just a moment after a word from 456 00:23:54,440 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: our partners. So Steve, and it makes sense that through 457 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: the holiday season, the free agency market and just you 458 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: know baseball activity, you know, kind of calm down a 459 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: little bit that that typically does happen. We've seen the 460 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: trade market pick up a little bit here over the 461 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. You know, Edward Cabrera of course 462 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: being traded to the Cubs being the most recent turn 463 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: of events. We have seen the Red Sox make deals 464 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: for pitchers. We have seen the Cubs make deals for pitchers. 465 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: We have seen the Orioles make deals for pictures as well. 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Those were teams who seemed to be in play for 467 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: some of these you know, bigger name free agents. The 468 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Yankees seem to be focused on hitting. They seem to 469 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: be a bit more focused on kind of the middle tier. 470 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: The Giants as well, we heard that earlier in the 471 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: off season. The point that I'm getting at is is 472 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of the big name free agent starters 473 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: are still out there, and while we haven't heard much 474 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: on the Braves, we've seen some other potential landing spots 475 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: for those pitchers find other ways to potentially address their 476 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: pitching needs. So while we don't necessarily, well, I'm not 477 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: necessarily saying that moves the Braves any closer to landing 478 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: one of the big fish that's out there in the 479 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: free agency pond. That's the latest development that we see. 480 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: While there's no news on the Braves end seeing other 481 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: teams that could potentially be in competition for those big 482 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: free agent pitchers go other routes that could play in 483 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: the Braves favor. 484 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're finally starting to hear some buzz on the 485 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: top of the position player market, like Bobashet and the Phillies. 486 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: There was a big rumor out there yesterday Kyle Tucker. 487 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays are apparently going hard after Tucker. The 488 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: Mets are apparently going hard after Tucker. Cody Bellinger apparently 489 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: wants a seven year deal for thirty million a year. 490 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: Godspeed with that one. I don't think that's gonna happen, 491 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: but we find I mean, for the longest time we 492 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: were getting nothing on that end, so at least we've 493 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: the the ices started to melt a little bit on 494 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: the on the top end pitching side, I still have 495 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: not heard like I don't remember last time I saw 496 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: like a Ranger swore as rumor. You know, I thought 497 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: the Phillies would be more aggress but they're apparently more 498 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 2: in on a bat at the moment. There again, they 499 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: were talking about Bashitt and maybe bringing back real Muto. 500 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why the Phillies aren't more in on 501 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: the pitching side. With the uncertainty of Zach Wheeler, with 502 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: that thorastic outlet syndrome he has, I thought the Phillis 503 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: would be highly aggressive at the top end of the 504 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: pitching right, and maybe they will be. Maybe there's just 505 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: they haven't yet. But yeah, like you said, I think 506 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: the Mets could use another starter. I was looking at 507 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: the Mets rotation. It's it's not great. They got some 508 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: young guys that are really good. But the Mets have 509 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: a really good farm system. But for somebody who's is 510 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: as rich as Steve Cohen and spends money the way 511 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: they do, I assume the Mets would be in on 512 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: one of these guys. But I could be wrong about that. 513 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's tough to if you ask me right now, like, 514 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: where's Zach Gallon gonna go? I have no idea. Where's 515 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: Ranger sure is gonna go? I have no idea. I 516 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: think the Braves are in on these guys. But again, 517 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: I just until Alex hands is one of these pictures 518 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: of five six year deal for one hundred and fifty 519 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: million dollars, I'm just not gonna believe it until I 520 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: see it. So it is. It is a little weird 521 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 2: that we haven't heard more about the pictures. We finally 522 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: heard this week and last week about the hitters a 523 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: little bit, but yeah, we'll see where it goes. You know, 524 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: we're we're rapidly approaching spring training and it's it's the 525 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: extended spring training this year because of the WBC, so 526 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: you can't afford to be a little later than maybe normal. 527 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: But we're we should be getting resolution to a lot 528 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: of these big names here in the next couple of weeks. 529 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Of course, you still have Freddy Perralta out there. Mark 530 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: Bowman of VIM willb dot com roade a really detailed 531 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: article and Mark Mark Fines saying I believe I said 532 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: his last name right, forgive me if that's not accurate. 533 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: He also in the past week wrote an article that 534 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: more summed up what the rumors had been throughout the 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: off season than anything you know, just breaking as of late. 536 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: But Mark Bowman talked about the fact he felt Freddie 537 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Perralta made the most sense for the Braves to be 538 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: shoot out of all the options. And the thing about 539 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: this could be that maybe this starts to drop the 540 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: price a little bit for these pictures, and that of 541 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: course really helps out Alex. But the other thing that 542 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: stands out to me that makes it to where the 543 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Braves again should remain aggressive, is that as you get 544 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: these updates on these position players. You see the Mets 545 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: and you see the Phillies right in the middle of 546 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: these conversations. If Boba Schett goes to the Phillies, that's 547 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: a major development that definitely makes their lineup that much deeper. 548 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: If the Mets were to land a significant hitter plus 549 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: also one of these starting pitchers, that gives them reliable 550 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: options to anchor both a staff and a lineup that 551 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: had some really good potential. So when it comes to 552 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of delving out, kind of seeing you know how 553 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: the top end of the free agent market will eventually follow, 554 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: those dominoes will fall. Right in the middle of the 555 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: mix are the powers in the NL East. And that's 556 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: why the Braves need to remain aggressive because both for 557 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: be because for the Braves, Mets, and Phillies, all of them, 558 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: their off season is far from over and the moves 559 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: that they make are likely going to be significant factors 560 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: and how successful when they're gonna be not only next 561 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: year but beyond. 562 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what worries me a little bit is that outside 563 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: of a big move at the very beginning of the 564 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: off season when they signed Edwin Diaz, the Dodgers have 565 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: been incredibly quiet, and I don't know. I just feel 566 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: like at some point we're gonna get like this, this 567 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: backbreaking news that the Dodgers are signing Kyle Tucker. Like 568 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: the Dodgers could actually use another outfit they had They 569 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: had Tioscar and Endez playing in right field last year, 570 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: and Tiskar and Endez is a is the most DH 571 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: that's ever been at DH. So like the problem is 572 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: they have they have shoe Otani at DH, so they 573 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: can't really do that. But I could see a world 574 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: with the the Dodgers trying to move to Oscar and 575 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: sign Kyle Tucker. They could use another outfit like the Dodge. 576 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: There's just been oddly quiet, and that always worries me 577 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: a little bit. But yeah, we I mean we should 578 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: just we should know. I think at least we will 579 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: have a better sense of the market. I just as 580 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: I said here and now, I couldn't even tell you 581 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: what Ranger Swres' market is. I have. I'ven't heard a 582 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: thing about Ranger Swarez. Like all off season, I've heard 583 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: of one or two things about Zach Gallen. The Cubs 584 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: were reportedly interested at one point, but they just traded 585 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: for Edward Cabrera, so they traded their number one prospect 586 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: for Edward Cabrera, So I don't know, you know, that 587 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: might take them out. I haven't heard much on Zach Gallen. 588 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: I've heard more on Framberg, but even that's gone cold 589 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. So I have no idea 590 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: where these top pictures are going to go. And even 591 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: like the middle tier, like I have, I've heard very 592 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: little about Chris Bassett in terms of like what his 593 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: market is. So I think you are right. I think 594 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: that could lead to the Braves advantage with some of 595 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: these maybe prices coming down a little bit, or maybe 596 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: we haven't heard something. Because there's so many teams involved, 597 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, no one knows where, who's going where, and 598 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: all all these guys are going to get what they're 599 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: projected or more. I have no clue, but we should. 600 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: It should start thawing out here in the next couple 601 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: of weeks because spring training is coming, and especially for pitchers. 602 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: It's not as big a deal for position players, but 603 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: especially for pitchers, they want to be signed and know 604 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: where they're going in spring training and be able to 605 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: get to spring training at the same time that all 606 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: the other pitchers and catchers report the last thing you 607 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: want to do is show up late to spring training 608 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: and feel like you're behind all season long, because it 609 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: seems like anytime that happens, the guy never catches up, 610 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: like he's always just behind. And I think pitchers know that. 611 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: So I think specifically for the pitchers, they're gonna want 612 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: to get resolution to this pretty soon. 613 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially with the World Baseball Classic, like it 614 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: came out today that Freddy Peralta would be picturing for 615 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic. Well, if you go a few more 616 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: weeks and you know, that's when he's traded and then 617 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: he goes and plays with the Dominican Republic, he can 618 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: only you know, have you know, a month, maybe a 619 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: few weeks with his new team before you're ramping up 620 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: for the season, So that that makes a big difference. 621 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Of course, we also got the news today that the 622 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks are keeping can Tell Marte, So that's that's another 623 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, big target that's off you know, the market 624 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: as well. So some things are happening. We keep her rumblings, 625 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: we keep her in rumblings. You know, we finally want 626 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: to see some dominoes fall. It does appear that the 627 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: Braves are you know, still in the midst of that activity. 628 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: The big thing is they need to be, especially with 629 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the Mets and Phillies looking to be active as well 630 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: a couple of other things since we're now in January 631 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: to watch out for. Of course, we've got the Hall 632 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: of Fame. The twenty twenty six Hall of Fame class 633 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: will be being announced. I believe it's going to be 634 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more than two weeks. I believe that 635 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be two weeks from this upcoming Tuesday. 636 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but don't really have I don't 637 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: think there's enough votes out there to really have, you know, 638 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: a comfortable feeling about Andrew Jones, who is in his 639 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: ninth of the ten years of the initial opportunity that 640 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: players have to get in the Hall of Fame. But 641 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: he is trending very well. For the trackers that are 642 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: out there, they it seems to be above eighty percent 643 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: right now. It seems like every one of the you know, 644 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: ballots we see revealed have Andrew Jones mark. So that 645 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: certainly is a good thing. We'll keep you tracked, we'll 646 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: keep you up to date on that. Plus also international 647 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: signing period. I don't necessarily know what the Braves are 648 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: going to be as up there with the big names 649 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: this year because they've been that way the past couple 650 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: of years. But it seems like that there could be 651 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: a few names that are out there that the Braves 652 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: are in on. I think there's rumors that the Braves 653 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: could be back near the top of the international free 654 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: agency maybe in the coming years. But it'll be interesting 655 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: to see what the Braves go about doing because you know, 656 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: in recent years it seems like they've had a major 657 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: influx of position player talent from the international signing classes. 658 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: So both of those things will certainly be storylines to 659 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: watch as well. So whether it's dealing with, you know, 660 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: adding to the club this year or off the field, 661 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: So much to cover, and this is the place that 662 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: will have you covered no matter what, Steven, anything else 663 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: from you as we wrap up this edition of the 664 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory podcast. 665 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just remember the Braves and Dylan Lee 666 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: are going to the arbitration earring. It was reported yesterday 667 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 2: they were like two hundred k apart. I think one 668 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: filed at two million, the other filed at like two 669 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: point two. It's very common a lot of times, the 670 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 2: numbers they file at are not the numbers they negotiated at. 671 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: So people see that difference, they're like, why couldn't you 672 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: just agree. My guess is the actual numbers they were 673 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: negotiating out were much further apart. So that's happening. And 674 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: then the Braves did make two minor waiver claims for 675 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 2: pictures that I don't even remember their names. 676 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing can wald wald le Chuck from the Athletics. 677 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: I believe he's a left hander, and then George Soriano 678 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: from the Orioles. It feels like it's more the you know, 679 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: musical chairs type opportunity. You know, when it comes, these are. 680 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: Guys that you claim so that you can try to 681 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: slip them through waivers and get them to your minor 682 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: league teams and get them get them off your forty. 683 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: These are guys that end up get claimed, getting claimed 684 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: like seven times. Yeah, but uh Videl Bruhan and uh 685 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Brett Wiseley. We're d faning both of those because the 686 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: Braves have a full forty man. So the Braves kind 687 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: of emptied out some of their middle endfield options that 688 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: didn't have middle endfielders that didn't have minor league options 689 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: in exchange for some pitchers that do have minor league options. 690 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 2: So that happened o the last couple of days. Nothing massive, 691 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 2: but I did want to mention the Dylan Lee. 692 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: News absolutely, and so that that's certainly something to monitor 693 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: as well. So the thing about it is this is 694 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: that you know, here in the coming weeks, we should 695 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: have you know, another you know, pretty major addition to 696 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: the Braves. You know that we'll certainly, you know, break 697 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: down and discuss. We're gonna be having season previews. We're 698 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: gonna be talking plenty about what's going on leading up to, 699 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, the start of the season. But once it 700 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: gets going, you got the World Baseball Class, you've got 701 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: spring training, then we're going right into the season. So 702 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: plenty of excitement. Given another month or so, folks, and 703 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: we'll really get going when it comes to the Braves, 704 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to basketball on any level. You're 705 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: not necessarily that happy with things right now, but hey, 706 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: until next time. You got Stephen Tolbert at b Underscore 707 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: outliers on Twitter slash x myself status as they see 708 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: on Twitter slash x hammer territory across all forms of 709 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: social media. Part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts. 710 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: Until next time, go braves, We'll talk to you again 711 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: soon here on the Hammer Territory podcast