1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Mark Sanchez, former USC quarterback of course NFL 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: quarterback with the Jets. He stopped by yesterday. We had 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down with him, and the first 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: thing I asked Mark was, if you're walking around in 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, what did people say to you? It's funny, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: it's hit or miss. Sometimes I get Matt Leiner, sometimes 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: I get Adrian Grenier from Entrepegenny Chase. Yeah, that's usually it. Okay, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: what are you, Lopez? What what do you say when 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: somebody says, hey, Matt Leiner, Well, this is funny. I 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: went to this uh business conference and this guy comes 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: and gives me a huge hug, says, man, that apartment complex. 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean I told you it's blown up. And I'm like, 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. It's like, you know, we went 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: out on the apartment complex. It's doing so well. They 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: got seven more. I mean, I'm making bank on that thing. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: You're in it too, And I'm like, dude, what are 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: you talking about? And he finally goes, come on, man, 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: don't mess Heisman guy. Now, Heisman, now you're too big time. 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, dude, I didn't win. To him, He's 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: like Matt And I said, Mark, he goes, Oh my god, 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Just totally missed good. Oh not a 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: convicted fellow. No, he was just convicted convicted. Okay, Um, 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: good month for USC football. When you say, I think 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: we're winning the off season whatever news media battle, but 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that's for sure and transfer portal. What does Lincoln Riley's 27 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: style mean? Um, you know, I think most importantly, it 28 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: seems like things are shifting the way it was when 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I was coming out to high school, and that was 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Matt Leiner. That was the only place to go, right, Like, 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: if you're a SoCal quarterback, you look nowhere else. It 32 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: was Norm Chow, it was Steve Sarkisian, it was Pete Carroll. 33 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: That's where you wanted to be and for a long time. Now, 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the guys in the SEC. 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Georgia took the kid from modern day JT. Janiel Daniels, 36 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the kid from Clemson, Hungel La. H is from Bosco right, 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Orange County, LA. And then Bryce Young's modern day and 38 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: these guys are across the country. How did they get 39 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: out of Southern California? That's the problem is it wasn't 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: a desirable place to go and look at quarterback factory anymore. 41 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: But now it's Kyler, it's Baker Mayfield, it's um Jalen Hurts. 42 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Where else are you gonna go? If you're a quarterback? 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: That's the guy. So hopefully that brings people back and 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: reminds them that they don't have to leave, because if 45 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: we just keep California, even just if you cut California 46 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: in half and took the southern part. I mean, we're 47 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: competitive now, but all these guys are leaving. Who was 48 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: runner up for you coming out of high school? Runner up? Oh? 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: Next school, cheez? I went to Texas, Ohio State and 50 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I looked at UCLA briefly, but yeah, mac Brown. 51 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: Mac Brown was great. He was hard to say no too. 52 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: But Jim Trussell, I remember we were in the Horseshoe. 53 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: They had the band. I had an Ohio State jersey. 54 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: They put my highlight tape up on the Megatron or whatever. 55 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: They audio dubbed Keith Jackson's voice over it, and it 56 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to be like the Rose Bowl, And then 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: they were showing my high school highlights on this thing, 58 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm a Buckeye. Done deal. I 59 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: hear Keith Jackson, the young sophomore or from southern you know, 60 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: and I was like wow. And We're in Trustle's office 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is it? Like I'm about to 62 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: sign a paper and I'm gonna be a Buckeye. Then 63 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he said, you know it's it's awesome. Every year we 64 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: play Michigan right around Thanksgiving ten years in a row, 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: great football weather. It's been snow in every game. And 66 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: I was like, but I looked at my dad. I 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: was like, what did he say? I was like, snow. 68 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: We gotta drive to Big Bear for snow. Like yeah, 69 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out. So that was pretty funny. 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: That kind of that really just changed my mind right there. Wait, 71 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: did you do any research on what weather's like? And 72 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: it's silly now looking back, I'm like, what a moron? 73 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: But you look at the jerseys, you look at the coaches, 74 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: you look at Okay, what am I gonna do here? 75 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: You know it's a good education. Great. I didn't think 76 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: twice about the weather, no clue, name, image and likeness 77 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: and where it's going. Because Caleb Williams is really the 78 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: first true free agent we've probably seen. I'm curious what 79 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: he got from USC Yeah, because everything's legal now, right. 80 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like here in LA, you 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: have so much to offer these kids. You know, you 82 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: can go speak it a booster's golf tournament. Now ten grand, bam, 83 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: like you could get maybe twenty grands. So you're doing 84 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: five quick little talks playing the golf tournament. There's one 85 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: hundred grand right there. I mean, go sign some autographs 86 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: at a dealership, like it's so easy. Now, But how 87 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: did the sec master this? I mean, Young reportedly got 88 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: one point three million from Alabama and those are just 89 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: guaranteed deals. I'm sure like he was making more than 90 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was as an NFL quarterback. Classes here, Mark, 91 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: I believe it. I just saw that SoundBite of Jimbo Fisher. 92 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah clown ask yeah, Yeah. He wants everybody to think 93 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: I'm a great recruiter and we would never pay for anybody. 94 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, come come on, they got they gotta show 95 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: money down there. Mark, It's it's legal now, yeah, you know, 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: like just just let it go like it's on, because 97 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: now you just sort of say, all right, what do 98 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: you got for me exactly. And the parents. You know, 99 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: this transfer portal thing is interesting too because I feel 100 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: like the parents, even when I was coming out, like 101 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: parents like to be recruited, you know, they want to 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: know how good John he is, you know. And now 103 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: these kids like play a little bit their first year boom, 104 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: and they're in the portal just to go on trips again, 105 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: just to go visit and Okay, what do you have 106 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: for me? Well, they said they got thirty. You only 107 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: have twenty. You know. It's um, it's unbelievable, but it's legal. 108 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I saw Kenny Pickett went to the Senior Bowl and 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: of course he's got small hands. Mark, So thoughts and 110 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: prayers for Kenny Pickett. Sure, but then you hear he's 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: the most ready quarterback. And how important you've got big hands. 112 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm massive hands. So obviously you have to have massive 113 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: hands to play in the NFL. I mean, I think 114 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: it's a huge advantage. You know, a slick ball when 115 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: it's wet in the elements, it helps far really big hands. 116 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: And his thumb it was like his thumb on his 117 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: throwing hand that was like extra long. It was really weird. 118 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: But I played golf with them. One time and I 119 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: kind of looked at it like, huh, must have been it. Yeah, 120 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: he got some extra juice on the ball. But it's 121 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: it's something. It's not everything, but it definitely helps. But 122 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: when you've went to the combine like what stood out that, 123 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: you realize that this means a little bit more than 124 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: it should. Yeah, I remember, you go so if you 125 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: have an injury. I had dislocated my patella on my 126 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: left leg, whatever injury you have, they look at and 127 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: thirty two team doctors will go and crank on it. 128 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: And by the end of that day, this thing was 129 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: a basketball because I had heard it my senior year 130 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: at SC. So I'm like, dude, I gotta run a 131 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: forty tomorrow. There's no way I gotta drop back and throw. 132 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we were icing that thing, massaging that thing 133 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: like crazy because they were just pulling on it, pulling 134 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: on it, pushing on it, prodding. How does this feel? 135 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: How does this extend to contract? You know all this stuff. 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you're like a lab rat. 137 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And it was awful. I mean, it was still so 138 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: swollen when I was running and everything. It sucks. That 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: was the worst part. Paul you got to Mark's measurables. 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: Of course I do. Mark Sanchez coming out of USC 141 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: measure ten point five inches on your hand size, which 142 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: is tied for tenth all time in combine history. Congratulations, 143 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: thank you. I was growing him out for the combine. 144 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: What you got his forty there eight eight? I got 145 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: four eight eight? Yeah? Okay, where's that rank with other 146 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: USC quarterbacks? Carson was faster than that Carson, and it's 147 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: definitely faster than that Liner. That had to be faster 148 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: than Line. There wasn't I'm gonna be Matt Barkley. Ah 149 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: gotta be. I don't know, yeah, PAULI. Yeah, four point 150 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: nine seconds for Matt Liner. Yes, yes, you owned him, 151 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: two tens you owned him. Take that. Mark is joining 152 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: us on behalf of Papa John celebrating it's a New 153 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: York style pizza fans unique pizza rituals in a special giveaway. 154 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll let you take the sales pitch from there. Yeah, 155 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: let's go. So basically Super Bowl Sunday number one day 156 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to order pizza. They just introduced this New York style pizza, 157 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, thirteen bucks eight huge slices folded in half, 158 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: dipping in the garlic sauce. There's nothing better. So basically 159 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: what they want you to do is for a chance 160 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: to win pizza, free pizza for an entire year. You 161 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: can upload your pictures of you eating this New York 162 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: style pizza on Instagram, Twitter and hashtag sweepsteaks, hashtag what's 163 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: your style, and they will pick a winner. And obviously 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: you brought in some pizza for it. Let's go here, 165 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: where's the hello? You didn't bring any you know who 166 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: would have brought pizza? Matt Liner? Oh yeah, it would 167 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: have been slow. Um if I gave you Joe Burrow 168 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: or Matthew Stafford from this game. I hate betting against 169 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I love that kid man. I sat down 170 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: with him right before he has this incredible ascension at LSU. 171 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not taking credit for it, but I went 172 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: to go visit uh Edio and Seaton does it's a 173 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: great Let's hear a little coach Well, Dan, I let's 174 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: just say I thought you were doing Papa johns Um, 175 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: so answer it if you were Coach O talking about 176 00:10:54,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Well, Joe number one, go tagos and Joe 177 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: he got the eye of the tiggle. He got a 178 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: heart like a line, and he loved him some gumbo. 179 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:14,119 Speaker 1: Who listen. I love Joe. I think he's so impressive, 180 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: especially nine sacks in that divisional game. Are you kidding me? 181 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: And that dude didn't even flinch. Most quarterbacks your eyes 182 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: just start dropping. Okay, I'm I'm guilty of it. Tom 183 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Brady's guilty of it. You name it. You get hit 184 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: that many times, you stopped looking downfield and you're like, damn, 185 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I gotta find a thrown lane because I'm gonna get 186 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: my head taken off. He didn't flinch, So I love him. 187 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to see him do well. I just think 188 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna get another crack at it. And Stafford and 189 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I came in the same year. I just really want it. 190 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I want it for him. I really want him to 191 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: win it. He's been through so much in Detroit and 192 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: it finally worked out. You know, everybody said, well if 193 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: he was with another corner, if he had a supporting cast, 194 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Well now he does, so i'd love to see him 195 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: with Did you ever get too cocky beating Brady? Did 196 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: you ever feel like, oh way, no way, it was um. 197 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: It's it's so funny because when you you look at 198 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: people like that him, you know, Kobe Jordan, like those 199 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of people. Players talk about playing those guys and 200 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: they know they got to be perfect, and you're hoping 201 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: he screws up once you know, you're hoping we get 202 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: an interception on a screen pass by David Harris who 203 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: got caught by Algae Crumpler. By the way, what that 204 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: in for a touchdown? I think we missed a field 205 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: goal on that, or we did something but I missed 206 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: a throw. But basically it was crappy. But um, you 207 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: just know everything's got to line up and you got 208 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: to hope for for a bad one from him. And 209 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: that was so impressive to me. That sustained greatness, that 210 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: sustained success. It's it's incredible. Did you beat him? What 211 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: do you mean how many times did you beat him him? Uh? Well, 212 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: we beat him at home my rookie year, my second year, 213 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: and then we beat him in the playoffs. So like 214 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: the first like, you know, I all right, I just 215 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't realize. I didn't realize like 216 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I knew what it was, but I really didn't. Now 217 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: looking back, you're like, damn, that was just the first 218 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: part of his three Hall of Fame career, you know, 219 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: like part one, that was just part one. And I 220 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't realize it because we beat him at home the 221 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: first time. UM, so it didn't register. It was just 222 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is a big rivalry and everybody was 223 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: talking about it, but we beat him, so it was 224 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: like whatever. Um, I don't know it was. It was 225 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: really strange those first couple of years, and then after 226 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the first two or three, I mean, we just got small. 227 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: It was rough. It was rough. It's great to see 228 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: you again. Thank you, Thanks for coming out for sure, 229 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 230 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 231 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 232 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 233 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 234 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 235 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock Act. I don't 236 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: know if you've heard this before, but Clayton Kershaw is 237 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: a really good friend high school friend with Matthew Stafford 238 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: the Rams quarterban and maybe Stafford's playing staying in his 239 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: house this week. I don't know, but Clayton Kershaw on 240 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: the Dodger great kind enough to join us. Boy, nobody 241 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: brings up Matthew Stafford to you at all this week. 242 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess, right, Clayton first, so your wife 243 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: and kids don't bring it up. I'm the first one. 244 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm bring it up today. That's right. When did you 245 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 1: know that he was going to be great as a quarterback? 246 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean basically as soon as we started playing football 247 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: around here in Texas we do six man football in 248 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: fourth grade, and he was throwing the ball. I mean, 249 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, he was throwing the ball further than 250 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: everybody else. And then actually we did track meets in 251 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: elementary school and instead of the shot, but we did 252 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,359 Speaker 1: the softball throw, and the softball throw he just dominated 253 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: that too. So he's always he's always had a great arm. 254 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: And then he actually is pretty smart too, so figured 255 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: out the whole football. He's pretty sorry. What position did 256 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: you play? So I was the center? Yeah, of course 257 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: you were. Yeah, I was the center. So freshman freshman 258 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: year football was the last year I played football, And yeah, 259 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I was the Matthews on the freshman team for like 260 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: four or five games, and then he was up to 261 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: varsity pretty quick. But yeah, center, it was great, but 262 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you got a good arm. How does your arm compare 263 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: to Stafford? Well, I could throw a baseball. I played 264 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: quarterback like fourth fifth grade and that was about as 265 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: far as I went. And then I started getting a 266 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: little chunk yere and the line was started to be 267 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a little more on my Callumn. Well, wait, so you're 268 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the guy they just said, uh, we'll just put you 269 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: on the line the big gat. You know, No, I don't. 270 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't think of it like that. I think they're like, hey, 271 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: you you can really remember all the plays and you 272 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: got a little bit of athleticism. But ultimately it was, hey, 273 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: you're a big guy, so you're gonna go to play line. 274 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Are you going to the Super Bowl? I am, I'm 275 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm excited about it. Are you a seat 276 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: guy or a sweet guy. I wasn't too picky for 277 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I was just like, I'll just get 278 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: in the game. But I'm a seat guy this time. 279 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the seats. Okay. Do you reach 280 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: out to Stafford and say, hey, can you hook me up? 281 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: I was like, matthew By, can you you know? I 282 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: know we can text every like once every two months, 283 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: but if you can give me a few tickets? Did no, 284 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Actually I actually went through the RAMS and bought some tickets. 285 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Okay, But when you're in the World Series, 286 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: do you hook up Stafford to come in launch? I 287 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think he would need me to hook him up, 288 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: but yeah I would. I mean, yeah, me too. You know, 289 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: we changed our opinion, or I think a lot of 290 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: people changed our opinion of you in your career when 291 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: you won the World Series. I don't know, did you 292 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: feel Do you feel different as an athlete that you 293 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: finally win and does that change anything? Yeah? I mean 294 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: I think no matter how well you do in your career, 295 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: when you finally do what you want to do and 296 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: win the whole thing, there's just for me that there's 297 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: obviously a burden lifted. I mean, I just felt a 298 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: sense of relief to finally get it done. And Matthew's 299 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: in a little different boat because he's been good for 300 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: so long. It's just alliance. You know, he didn't really 301 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: have a support system around him. So this is the 302 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: first year where you know, the team kind of matches 303 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: up to his talent level, and you know, he's obviously 304 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: favored to win, so it's it's I'm excited for him. 305 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: It would be really fun to watch. But also, do 306 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: think people view you differently? You get a different sense 307 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: when you know the media. Yeah, I mean it probably 308 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: probably media wise, you know, when it ultimately comes down 309 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: said whether you won the one or you did in 310 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: and how you've succeeded in the postseason or you didn't. 311 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think definitely winning helped that for 312 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: me for sure. But would you rather be on the 313 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: doorstep going to the playoffs, go into the World Series 314 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: even if you lost? Where is Matthew? What even getting 315 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: into the playoffs for a chance to win a championship? Yeah, 316 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: I'll say this a thousand times. You know, I would 317 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: much rather continue to have success and then fail over 318 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: and over again. Can continue to get there because that's 319 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: what you played for. You know, you want to be there, 320 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: and failures a part of athletics, It's a part of sports, 321 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great lesson. I learned a 322 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: lot of things failing as many times as I did, 323 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: So obviously I don't recommend it. I mean, if you 324 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: can just win it, you should just win it. But 325 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: when I finally did. It was pretty special. Yeah, but 326 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: failing is a strong word. I mean, at the end 327 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: of the day, when you're on the Dodgers and you 328 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: make the playoffs every year, the World Series is your expectation. 329 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I heard I heard some guys talking 330 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: about that with the Rams as well, as like this 331 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: team was built not to make the playoffs. It is 332 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: built to win the Super Bowl. And you know the 333 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: trades that they made and the first round picks that 334 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: they gave up, And that's kind of the way we 335 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: work too. Talking to Clayton Kershaw the three times, say 336 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: Young Award Winner, are you going to wear a Stafford 337 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: jersey to the game? Thought about that. You know, the 338 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: baseball jersey is a lot more comfortable because of the 339 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: buttons in the front. You can kind of wear it 340 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: as a jacket almost. The football jerseys are a little 341 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: tight fit. I might just go hoodie, but I haven't 342 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: really made up my mind. That's a good question. You 343 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: know what, since you're probably not going to get in 344 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: your uniform anytime soon, given what's going on in baseball, 345 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: why don't you just wear your full uniform to the 346 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: stage and nobody's gonna think Clayton. Why that guy looks 347 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: like Clayton Kershaw. They'd never think that you would wear 348 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: your full uniform. That's a great point, but yeah, think 349 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: about it for sure. You know, have I black on there? 350 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: Speaking of the baseball situation, How are you updated on 351 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: what is going on? Yeah, you know, I I just 352 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: listened to Walker Dealer. Unfortunately, Walker is our player, so 353 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of been all the meetings and kind of 354 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: doing this stuff. And I've kind of been that guy 355 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: in the past, you know, twenty eleven, twenty sixteen, when 356 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: they were going through the labor agreements. I was kind 357 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of a guy for the Dodgers, and I've kind of 358 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: passed the baton. So now I'm pretty pretty removed honestly 359 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: from a situation and get updates. But as far as 360 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: the day to day, I am not involved this time 361 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: at all. But you don't know what the future the 362 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: immediate future is. But how does this affect how you 363 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: prepare for this upcoming season? Yeah, I mean we have 364 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: to continue to prepare like we're gonna play, you know, 365 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: And at this point, I mean it's February ninth, Like, 366 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: there's no way we're going to be in spring training. 367 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: In a week. But I hope we're in spring training soon, 368 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, so you get the season started on time, 369 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: because ultimately that's the goal. So I'm continuing to prepare 370 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: like we're gonna start on time, But each day it 371 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: just seems like we're getting further and further from that. 372 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: What did you keep from winning the World Series? What 373 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: did I keep? I think I kept. I kept my jersey. Um, 374 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: and then I don't know your your your director is 375 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna get mad at me, but I don't know. We'll 376 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: move my zoom. So I have the World Series trophy 377 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: right there? Um? Yeah, yeah, so I gotta wait. What 378 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: else have you got there? Be on a tour guide here? 379 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: You want to be a tour guide? Yeah? So you can. 380 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how well you can? Can you see 381 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: all that? That's kind of my Yeah, that's all I 382 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: allow to be put up because everything else just feels 383 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: like I'm it's just too much. So I just I 384 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: just do that, okay. But I have the Kobe and 385 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: the Jordan's jersey are probably my two favorite things up there. 386 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty that's pretty awesome. Nice. And then 387 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: you've got a basketball. Yeah, that's mad. I got a 388 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: magic basketball. Okay, I got a John Wooden basketball over 389 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: there in the top last. Now we're showing off. Now 390 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: he's awesome. What he stood for just so great. I 391 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: met him, oh, I don't know how many years ago, 392 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: but I got to visit him. He lived in a 393 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: small condominium and I did an interview with him outside 394 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: and he realized I really knew the history of UCLA basketball. 395 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: And he said, would you like to come in and 396 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I'll make you a sandwich? So here I am, yeah, 397 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: like yes, of course, and we go in and he 398 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: opens up his scrap books. He makes me a Pimento 399 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: cheese sandwich. I don't even like pimento, but it's the 400 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: best damn sandwich I ever had. And I just I 401 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: got to open up this scrap book and I'm there 402 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: with John. It's one of those out of body experiences 403 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: because I'm a I'm a reporter, I'm just a kid reporter, 404 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going, I'm I'm in John. I stayed for 405 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: over two hours and it was it was just a 406 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: wonderful experience. And uh, you know, so I understand you 407 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: know that the Dodgers had like a leadership program like 408 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: rights as you're coming up or a rookie and we 409 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: got to have dinner. There's like fifteen of us. They 410 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: got to have dinner with John Wooden one night too, 411 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: and it was towards the end of his life, but he, uh, 412 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: he talked to us, took the time to like meet 413 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: each one of us, and um just such a such 414 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: an amazing man. It was awesome. How well did you 415 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: know Kobe? I didn't know him super well. I got 416 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: to meet him twice and kind of the same thing. 417 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: Just an admiration for his work ethic honestly, I mean 418 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what That's what I admired most. And 419 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: obviously like how much he the competitive drive in the spirit. 420 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: But um, you know, being in LA that's what you hear, 421 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: you hear Kobe, Kobe, Kobe. So I got to know 422 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm just through being out there, and um man special. 423 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: What about Jordan? How'd you get the jersey? I don't 424 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: even know how I got that? But I've never met Mark. 425 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: I've never bet but you know, to me's to me 426 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: he's the best, So I, um, yeah, I never met him. No, wait, 427 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: how do you get a Jordan jersey? And you don't 428 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: remember you're gonna have a story with that I didn't 429 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: like chase him down in the parking lot. I don't 430 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: know how I did it, but it was probably some 431 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: type of silent option. Okay, charity event or something like that. 432 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: You know what, your house is quiet? Where the kids not? Usually? No? No, 433 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: we got two. We got two kids in school right now, 434 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: and then one is playing upstairs, and then we got 435 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: like a two month old. So we got four now. 436 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, we're in it. Yeah, you caught me. 437 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: I got I got four. Good luck, good luck winning 438 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: a World series the easy part, Clayton, I'm finding that out. 439 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Great to catch up with you, 440 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully we baseball at some point this year and 441 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: have fun on Sunday. All right, Thanks appreciate. That's Clayton Kershawn. 442 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 443 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 444 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 445 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 446 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey 447 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: what's up everybody? 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I've been saving these for your Showy look 465 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: good person, they look good. Thank you. We saw Mark Sanchez, Uh, 466 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: he came in yesterday and he had his nikes and 467 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: he had the swoosh that was USC colors. Yeah, he 468 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: had fresh shoes on as well. He did admit you 469 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: were faster than him barely was Yeah? Was you probably 470 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: still faster than him? I'm good. A guess he might 471 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: have had bigger hands than you. I doubt that. Uh 472 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: do you? I don't know. Do you have a ruler? 473 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: He had pause? Maybe he had some pause there. See 474 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: you didn't just shake Carson's hand. Those his hands are gigantic. 475 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: You have big hands, Mark Sanchez. Okay, check the combine 476 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: here because I might go Sanchez, Paul, I have from 477 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: the combine, the tenth highest best hand size of all 478 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: time is uh, Mark Sanchez at ten point five inches. Yeah, 479 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not on the top at ten point two five, 480 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: but check the forty times. That's no, he did admit. 481 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's the one thing Sanchez has on you 482 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: is he has bigger hands. That's it. I'll take speed 483 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: over hand sized. Oh okay, Yeah. Do hand snice matter? 484 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: It does, um, especially when you play on the East 485 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: coast in the wind, in the rain. It just helps 486 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: you get a little bit better grip and and you 487 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: just don't see that many guys in the league right 488 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: now with I don't know what the top ten is 489 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: ten something inches, but you don't see many guys in 490 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: the eight and nines. It just gets more and more 491 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: difficult with the wind to spin it. And Aaron Rodgers 492 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: has big hands. He's talked about that he liked the 493 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: football inflated a little bit more. And then you have 494 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: the story with Kenny Pickett where like, oh my god, 495 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do he didn't want to get 496 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: his hands measured, like that's that's a nail. I guess 497 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: you punched his hands in his pockets at the combine, 498 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to have you measure my hands, 499 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: like my stock is going to drop? It? Does? I 500 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: mean that there's so many coaches, there's so many organizations 501 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: that are looking at that number, and that's an extremely 502 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: important statistic for those guys. Why didn't you run more? Well? 503 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: I did run a bit and then I blew my 504 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: knee out and everything changed after that. I lost a 505 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: little bit of speed. It took me a couple of years. 506 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: That's what blows me away about Joe Burrow right now, 507 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: is he blew his knee out last year mid season, 508 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: and you don't see any ramifications from that injury. You 509 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: don't see him tentative. You don't see him. You know 510 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll you'll have an issue stepping 511 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: into throws, transferring your weight, turning on that front egg 512 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: and that nie spinning and rotating. You're not seeing at 513 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: all with Joe. I felt it for at least a 514 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: couple of years, And it took me a couple of 515 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: years to really feel one hundred percent with Joe. Right now, 516 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: he looks one hundred percent. He looks he looks like 517 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: he did at LSU or before the knee injury with Cincinnati. 518 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Paul give Carson the pull question. Okay, which quarterback would 519 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: you bet on? You got a bet on who would 520 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: have the most Super Bowl appearances in the next decade 521 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: going forward? Super Bowl appearances Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Justin 522 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Herbert Patrick Mahomes. I think I like what's going on 523 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I like the combination of ownership, GM, coaching staff, 524 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: and quarterback. With Josh Allen, I think the ceiling is 525 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: extremely high, not that it's not high. With Burrow, I 526 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: think he's got an extremely high ceiling. But when you 527 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: combine the ownership group, coaching staff, and the division, you've 528 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: got Miami still trying to figure it out for Josh Allen. 529 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: You've got New England, who is still New England, but 530 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: they don't have Tom Brady. Who else am I missing 531 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: in the AFC East the Jets? You got the Jets. 532 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I like that set up for Josh to 533 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, and I think we'll see him 534 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: and at least one super Bowl, if not more coming up. See, 535 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I said, Mahomes, just because you still have Tyreek Hill 536 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey. Nobody has that for a couple of 537 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: years until Tyreek hill has to get paid until Travis 538 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: Kelsey's next deal up. They've got some issues. They're paying Patrick, 539 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're paying him a much different salary than 540 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 1: than Joe Burrows getting right now. So Joe Burrows got him. 541 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: He's got that going for himself salary cap wise. But 542 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: I just think Josh Allen's ceiling is only going to 543 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: get higher. We're going to see him continue to get 544 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: better and we haven't seen the best of him yet 545 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: and it's been really good so far. But it feels 546 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: like that window of opportunity is about five years that 547 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: you get that rookie contract with your quarterback, because that's 548 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: how Seattle won with Russ. Once you start paying these guys, 549 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: it's really hard to pay everybody else. The Bengals are 550 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: in really good shape right now, justin Herbert with the Chargers, 551 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: they're in really good shape right now. But then that's 552 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: going to change when those guys get paid fifty million 553 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: dollars a year. You know, I think the most interesting 554 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: thing after the Super Bowl, whether the Bengals win or not, 555 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: is the Bengals are going into next season with fifty 556 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: eight or fifty nine million dollars in cap space. They've 557 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: got Joe Burrow who is watching what they do. When 558 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: you look at this Bengals roster pre you know, before 559 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: the season started, this was not a Super Bowl roster. 560 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: There was not many people saying, oh man, look how 561 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: deep the Bengals are, Look how talented they are. Nobody 562 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: saw this coming. Joe Burrows watching how the organization goes 563 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: forward after this season. He wants to know what they're 564 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: going to do with that sixty million dollars in cap space. 565 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: His deal's up is in two years. He can sign 566 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: a big extension in two years, and he is really 567 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: really watching, are the Bengals are going to do what 568 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: they did? In the past, which is just kind of 569 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: sit around and wait in the draft and hope somebody 570 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: falls to him. Are they're going to make a little 571 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: bit of a splash and freeency. This is a chance 572 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: where they can rebuild that offensive line, get another good 573 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: swing tackle, get another pass rusher on defense. They've got 574 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: a lot of cap space going in the next year, 575 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: and nobody is more curious what they're gonna do with 576 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: it than Joe. Yeah, and you went through this because 577 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals are a cheap organization or they have been, 578 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: and you have this opportunity, and you're right if I'm 579 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, like, let's let's take advantage of this opportunity. Plus, 580 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess free agents are gonna want to play 581 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: for a team that's led by Joe Burrow. Receivers, offensive lineman. 582 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, guys want to get to the Super Bowl. 583 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: And Joe looks like he's got that magic, he's got 584 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: the charisma. He's now done it. He's gotten here. Um 585 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: and the Bengals in the past haven't pulled out the 586 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: checkbook and written big checks and signed you know, you 587 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: got Chandler Jones, who's a great pass rusher, that's a 588 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: free agent. Um, there's some, there's some there's some game changers. 589 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Vontae Adams is another weapon. I mean, you know, if 590 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: i'm Joe, I'm looking at um. You know, Brandon Shirt 591 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: who's in Washington, who was a top ten pick, who's 592 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: been a great guard and all Pro he's a free agent. 593 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: There's some tackles that are free so there's enough pieces 594 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: to continue to build on this current roster that got 595 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl that nobody thought was going to 596 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: get to get them to a super Bowl. So Joe's 597 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: watching that and we're all watching as Bengal fans. We 598 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: want to see them make some moves and free agency, 599 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: not you know, sit around the draft and hope somebody 600 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: falls to him, get aggressive and continue to build on 601 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: what they've got started. Here we're talking to Carson Palmer 602 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: joining us on behalf of Levels. Select CBD makes you 603 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: use the promo code Carson forty. Growing up in Cincinnati, 604 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: and I tell this story often on the show. If 605 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: you say you're from Cincinnati, people go, oh, the Bungles, 606 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: like that would be the first thing that they would say. 607 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: As the quarterback for Cincinnati, when you guys weren't playing well, 608 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: What is that feeling like every single day when you're 609 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: walking around or your wife will hear something. Just be 610 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: in the quarterback for a team that you know people 611 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: around the league would laugh at. It's frustrating. And we 612 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: heard Joe talk about it early. He got tired of 613 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: the narrative of the same old Bengals he's talked about. 614 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: As soon as they beat they beat the Raiders in 615 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: the playoffs, he started talking about changing the narrative and 616 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: we're we're a different team, We're a different organization than 617 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: we were in the past. You know, being in Cincinnati, 618 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: the fan base there is so passionate and love. You 619 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't hear that in Cinci as much as when you 620 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: would travel or you go to California or you go 621 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: to these different places and somebody go, oh, you played 622 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: for the Bungals. It's not that. It's not so much 623 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: the case in Cincinnati. There's so much passion. That's why 624 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl is so excited. This this fan base 625 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: deserves this. They've been waiting thirty something years for this. 626 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: They've never won a Lombardi Trophy. So it's an exciting 627 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: time to be in Cincinnati. It's an exciting time to 628 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: be a Bengal and I mean for Joe to be 629 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: here in year two, this is the beginning of a 630 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady like legacy. You know, Tom got in early, 631 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: won his first one early, and then continue to stack 632 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: trophies after that. Joe's in that same category of can 633 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: he continue to build after this game? Can he win 634 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: multiple super Bowls? He's not wanting to win one. Joe's 635 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: got a different mindset, He's a different individual. He's seeing 636 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: multiple championships and this is the start of them. What's 637 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: going on with Kyler Murray and the Cardinals that he's 638 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: now scrubbed his social media of anything that's related to 639 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. I think it looks like a contract 640 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: play to me. I mean obviously he's he's, you know, upset, 641 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: displeased with his current negotiation between his agent and the organization. 642 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: He just wants to up this. He wants to get 643 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: a headstart and get that like Josh Allen got in Buffalo. 644 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: He wants a year. He wants to today. He didn't 645 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: want to wait an extra year and say what you want. 646 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: How different guys go about getting that next contract. It 647 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: certainly to me looks like a contract move and he's 648 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: trying to leverage himself and position himself for a contract 649 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: this upcoming season. Have we seen the best of Kyler Murray? 650 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: We have at times. You know that I don't know 651 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: what the ceiling is for a quarterback who plays that way, 652 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: that style and his strengths and weaknesses. Well, you're seeing 653 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: his weaknesses in the last couple of games. Teams are 654 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: not letting him outside the pocket. He is not six seven, 655 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: he's not six two, he's not really six feet tall, 656 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: so what they're doing is keeping him in the pocket. Unfortunately, 657 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: from a contractual situation for Kyler this that was his chance. 658 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: The playoffs were his chance against the Rams to get 659 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: a new contract this year. Unfortunately, he did not play well. 660 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: They did not play well. He lost a ton of leverage. 661 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: And when you're a player in the league and your 662 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: contract is coming up, or you have a chance to 663 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: sign a new contract and you have leverage, you've got 664 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. He did not take advantage 665 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: of the situation. He all the leverage was on his side. 666 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: All he had to do is play well. They could 667 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: still have lost the Rams, but he had to play well. 668 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: He lost all the leverage he had going into it, 669 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's unfortunate because you don't get it very 670 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: often when you're a player and you're coming up on 671 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: a deal. That leverage is massive, and the weight that 672 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: that carries throughout the organization is massive, and when it's 673 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: on your side, you got to take advantage of it. 674 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: He lost a lot of leverage in that playoff game. 675 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: Same with Baker Mayfield. He lost all of his leverage 676 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: this year by being banged up. And I think that's 677 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: why he kept trying to play, is I want to 678 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: get some leverage here, and it only made it worse. 679 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: Same deal, and both organizations are in the same spot. 680 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: They've got to pay Baker and they've got to pay Kyler. 681 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Both of those organizations. You cannot regardless of how poorly 682 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: Baker played or how bad that playoff game went for Kyler, 683 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: you got to pay him. You took him number one. 684 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to go back to the drawing board 685 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: and start all over and try to find the next guy. 686 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: They've got to pay him. Both of those guys lost 687 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: some money and left some money on the table with 688 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: their performance this year. Brady mentioned on his podcast that 689 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: never Say Never after So he's only been home for 690 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: six days. Now, all of a sudden, he's reconsidering, what 691 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: is it like when you retired that first month you're 692 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: at home? What's it like? It was awesome. I wasn't 693 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: at home. We traveled, we went up to Lake Tahoe. 694 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: I played a but I did a lot of things 695 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do. I love to hunt and fish, 696 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: and hunting and fishing season for the most part, is 697 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: during football season. So as soon as I didn't have 698 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: a job playing football, I did a lot of the 699 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: things with my family, with some buddies that I wanted 700 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: to do that I wasn't able to do for you know, 701 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty five years of playing football. So I think, you know, 702 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Brady is an habitual creature, a creature of habit. He 703 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: likes to do the same thing over and over and 704 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: over again. Now that that's not there and he's just 705 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: gotten a very short taste of it, I think there's 706 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: a thought in his head, like, you know, I could 707 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: win eight. Maybe I could win eight. Let's see what 708 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: happens with Chris Godwin. Are they're gonna resign Chris Godwin? 709 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: And in Tampa, are they gonna resign Ryan Jensen the 710 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: center in Tampa. Maybe he's waiting to sit back and 711 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: see what happens. He's getting a little board he's used 712 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: to starting. You know, whatever point in the offseason he 713 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: starts training again and doing his flexibility, you're retiring if 714 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: you're still not fully retired. It's hard to give it up. 715 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: It's hard when he'd been doing it for twenty something 716 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: years and at that level. I mean, he could those numbers. 717 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: He could easily be the MVP this year. It's hard 718 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: to retire on top two. It's hard to retire. It's 719 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: really hard to retire on top I at the end 720 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: was done. My body was done. I was beat up. 721 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: I physically knew. He's walking off the field probably feeling 722 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, you know, a little banged up, a 723 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: little beat up from playing a long season. But now 724 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: that his body's recovered, he's starting to, you know, he's 725 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: starting to feel a little bit better. I wouldn't be 726 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: surprised if we saw him come back. How did the 727 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: Rams win this game? Upfront? Defensively? Up front, the weakest 728 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: part of the Bengals is the offensive line. I mean 729 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: they sacked, they sacked Joe Burrow nine time. When you 730 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: think about getting sacked nine times in a game, it's 731 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: demoralizing as a quarterback. This has never happened before. I 732 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: don't think you have the guy who has was sacked 733 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: the most times this season playing in the Super Bowl 734 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: and the guy who led the league in interceptions is 735 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: playing in the Super Bowl. That doesn't happen at that position. No, No, 736 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a weird season. It's been an 737 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: amazing season. But when you watch this Bengals team, the 738 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: Achilles heel of this team all year long has been 739 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Joe Burrows overcome it. Joe Mixons overcome 740 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: it with just stellar play and being a little bit quicker, 741 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: a little bit faster. You've seen Joe changing protections the 742 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. We saw him do it in the 743 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, you know, on the road in Arrowhead 744 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium. So he's got complete grasp and control of 745 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: what's going on around him. He can't overcome Aaron Donald 746 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: just overpowering the center and bull rushing him and ending 747 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: up in his lap. That is what's going to This 748 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: game is gonna come down to can they get the 749 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: ball out quick? Enough. Can they run some screens? Can 750 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: they run the ball against Aaron Donald? And can they 751 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: not give up six plus sacks against Von Miller on 752 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: one side and then Aaron Donald on the other and 753 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: plus you know you've got Jalen Rams. Are you saying, hey, 754 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: bring it on, Jamar Chase? Do you avoid Do you 755 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: avoid Jalen Rams? You can't avoid Jalen Ramsey because you know, 756 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're probably gonna see 757 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey trying to match up with Jamar with Chase. 758 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: If you watch these last three games, they were moving 759 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: Chase all over the field. He was motioning, he was 760 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: in the backfield, he was in the slot, he was 761 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: out wide, he was on the three receiver side, the one. 762 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they did such a good job trying not 763 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: to let any individual defender matchup. At some point, you're 764 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna run into different situations where you just can't continue 765 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: to move Chase. You've got to line them up and 766 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: run a play. That's when you're gonna see Ramsey on him. 767 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: But Ramsey's built for the Megatron, the six four. He's 768 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: built for t Higgins. He struggles against short, quick, fast 769 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: receivers and that's typical. I mean, most big long cornerbacks 770 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: struggle with the short guys. They do really well against 771 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: the big, physical receivers. So it's not a great matchup 772 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey. There's a quickness dynamic to Chase, There's 773 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: a speed dynamic to Chase. He's got to play off 774 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: him a little bit, so I wouldn't avoid him. I 775 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: like that matchup from the Bengal standpoint of Chase against Ramsey. Okay, 776 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: before we let you go. The longest run of Carson 777 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 1: Palmer's career. Oh, I want to guess that one day. Yeah, 778 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: I can give you a hint. It was with the 779 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals and you were thirty seven years old. Wheels, I 780 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: had wheels. How many yards, Carson, I'm gonna say four. Wait, 781 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: the longest run of your career six sixteen yards? Sixteen? Yeah, 782 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: sixteen yards. I was probably at the end of a 783 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: half when they were playing pre event defense and I 784 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to risk throwing a pick on a hail Mary, 785 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: so I just ran and got out of bound. Ye, 786 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Sixteen's good. Yeah, you were Josh Allen 787 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: before Josh Allen at that running ability. Do you do 788 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: a drive by at USC just go in and touch 789 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: the heisman there. I'm actually driving by the coliseum today. 790 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: We'll swing. I got my son with me, so my 791 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: son fletches with me, so we'll roll up to the 792 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: SEC campus and do a quick tour. But I don't 793 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: think you can touch it. I think it's in a case, 794 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: which by the way, by the way, it showed up, 795 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: it got there, it made its way to me, but 796 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: the front plaque was broken off of it. Oh geez, 797 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: you didn't have it in the case in the main cave. 798 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 1: We put it in the case. No, no, I'm talking 799 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: about like a clear case where nobody can touch it. Um. 800 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what Paulie. I thought Fritzie was the 801 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: charge of the case. Ze. Yeah, the back room got 802 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: can you get it fixed? I fixed it? How much 803 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: was it? I just had to get some new screws 804 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: for it. We're all good, okay, Brood, Brood, I'll pay 805 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: for the screws. Cool. I'm so glad you got that 806 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: thing back. I love that you you loaned the heisman 807 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: to us. But man, when that was going back and 808 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: then we couldn't find it, and then you were going 809 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: to the college Football Hall of fame. It wasn't worth it. 810 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: It was not worth it. Level Selects CBD go use 811 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: the promo code Carson forty. We want to thank Levels 812 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: Select all season long, great partner and you two. You've 813 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: made us smarter every Monday as we recap football. Have 814 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: a great weekend with your son, and thanks for joining us. 815 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 816 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 817 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 818 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 819 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 820 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 821 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: searching f s R, or stream us live on the 822 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Oh, Paulie wants to place a bet with me. 823 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: All right, I'll paid for your dinner tonight. But what 824 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: do I get if I'm right? I can't. I don't 825 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: want to pay for your dinner because I know how 826 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: that may turn out for me. Okay, I won't order one. 827 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: I'll buy you a nice bottle of wine back home, Okay, 828 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: nice for me night, Maybe not m one hundred dollar bottle. Okay, 829 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: then that's good, right, that is okay? Here does Al 830 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: Michaels eat a meal before? During, or before? I can 831 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: do before? You're changing it. It's during the Super Bowl? 832 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: Will al Michaels eat during the super fairly confident? Al? 833 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: Does eat before and after the okay between between kickoff 834 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: and the final whistle? Does Al eat? I'll say yes, 835 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: all right, I'll say no, Al Michaels, he'll be calling 836 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He joins us his eleventh Super Bowl, 837 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: tying Pat summer All for the most by a TV 838 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: play by play voice, Al, will you be eating during 839 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six? Dan? I love my partner. Chris 840 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: Poland's worth is like a brother somehow, some way. He 841 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 1: once said, I eat a whole meal during the game. 842 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Not true. I have a few junior mints, I have 843 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: some grapes. I might have a snack. Well, cookie, that's it. 844 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: Chris is a guy who leaves like a horse before 845 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: the game. Sushi, pasta, all of the rest. Okay, that 846 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: is fake news. Okay, I will not be having a 847 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: meal during the Super Bowl. Okay to the judges, So 848 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: who won the bat? Well, I don't think a snack 849 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: is a meal. I don't either, Fritziello, I'm a winner. 850 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: I like how Paulie goes before, during, or after the 851 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. By the way, Al, on this date back 852 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, you know what happened two 853 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: thousand and six. I think I left Disney to go 854 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: to NBC. Yep, yep, correct, And there was a rabbit 855 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: involvement in a cartoon Rabbit and uh, you were ending 856 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: a twenty year run on Monday Night Football. Now, I'm 857 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: just bringing that up no reason at all that you know, 858 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: maybe you're joining another network or something on you know, 859 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: close to this anniversary. Alit I have, as you well know, 860 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: but all of that behind me if you start thinking 861 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: about other things. I promised myself this year not to 862 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: be distracted, and I will not be distracted until Monday, 863 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: when I can have a ton of distractions in my life. 864 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: But I don't want anything before Sunday. Then I'm working 865 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 1: like a maniac. I mean, look, well, for your television audience. 866 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I have like nine thousand pages of information 867 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: ready to go for this game, the best stories, but 868 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: all of them will wind up, you know, on the 869 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: cutting room floor, as they say, because as John Madden 870 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: said years ago, become armed for war. We have everything 871 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: available to us. And then, as John would say, a 872 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: game breaks out and you do the game, but also, 873 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: well do you prepare for a blowout? Well, I don't 874 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: think you prepare for it necessarily a blow You prepare 875 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: for the game period. You hope the game is great, 876 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: and if it's a blowout, then we're ready to go 877 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: in a different directions. It almost becomes a christ and 878 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: I we laughed about it because we did have a 879 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: blowout in the Christmas weekend game between Dallas and Washington, 880 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: and then it became almost like talk radio, you're going 881 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: back and forth. Fortunately for me, I've done ten Super 882 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: Bowls and six of them have gone down to the 883 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: very end, including the last four. And I looked at 884 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: it this way to day. I don't think the NFL 885 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,439 Speaker 1: has ever been hotter than it is right now today. 886 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean, people are just talking about these last six 887 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: teams have been fantastic, and I'm just hoping that we 888 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: get the lucky seventh. And it's not like when you 889 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: go to the craft table and you've got a great 890 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: run going and then you throw a seven and the 891 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: dealer says a seven out of line in due shooter. 892 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: We don't need that, we need we need the Lucky 893 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: Seven this week. How important is it for you to 894 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: meet with coaches or quarterbacks to glean information from them? 895 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: Very and we will. We're going out to see the 896 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: Rams today. We get the bank Us tomorrow. We know 897 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: the Rams very well because we had them three times 898 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,280 Speaker 1: this year, We've had them several times over the past 899 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: couple of seasons. We know them. So we'll see you 900 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: know McVeigh, and we'll see Stafford and some of the 901 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: other guys today and then I think Christal was Zach 902 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: Taylor a little bit because he lives in Cincinnati. I've 903 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: met him once, don't know. Burrow will meet him tomorrow. 904 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important. I think it's it's great because 905 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know enough about them from watching them 906 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: and reading about them, and then you get to talk 907 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: to them and I find, you know, the really good 908 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: stuff that happens is you get a story that hasn't 909 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: been told before going into a Super Bowl. There's so 910 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: many stories out there, millions and millions of you know, 911 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: words have been written, and so much time has been 912 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: spent on television and radio talking about it. You want 913 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: to find something that's a little bit different. So hopefully 914 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: that's what will happen, and that's why we got That's 915 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: why it's very beneficial to meet with the principals. We 916 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: always talk about players when they get to the postseason, 917 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: but as a broadcaster, the amount of postseason games you call, 918 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: what changes or how does that prepare you better for 919 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: the next one you do and the next one you do? 920 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: It's you know what it's almost like when you're a player, Dan, 921 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, you do what got you there. So if 922 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: you go, you know, in a different direction. I know, look, 923 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: I understand the magnitude of the games, and especially the 924 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and people say, you know, one hundred million 925 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: people are watching. You can't think about that. You want 926 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: to break cleanly. You want to get off to a 927 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: nice start, get the game going. And very much like 928 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: the players who are talking about, you know, the first 929 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: times contact couple of plays into the game, they're playing 930 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: football and we're announcing football. So you don't want to 931 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: have to think about all the extraneous stuff. Once the 932 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: game gets underway, you say, within your lane. I mean, 933 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: Chris and I have done a couple of hundred games together, 934 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: and if we try to do something different or or 935 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: go outside where we normally would go, why why do 936 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: you want to do that? So hopefully the game starts, 937 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: we concentrate on the game. The game is closed all 938 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: the way and all I moot for Dan is tripled 939 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 1: over time. Can't get enough of this? How where are 940 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: you of? I know the point spread, but prop bets 941 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. I look, I've been the rastional. 942 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: You know that. I'm the guy who's always talking about 943 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: a point spread or the overrunder. And I've sneaked to 944 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: dinner through the years and a lot of people love it. 945 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: And now, of course I can come into the front 946 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: door because you've got DraftKings and all these other entities 947 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: that are now involved with the national football You don't 948 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: overdo it, though, I mean in terms of prop bets, no, 949 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: I think that's that's two inside football. I think a 950 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: few people are involved in that. So I looked at 951 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: them the other day. I mean, there are eighteen million 952 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: prop bets, So where do you go with that? I 953 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: think you would be talking to a very very small 954 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: sliver of the audience if you went there. Well, I 955 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't know if there was a prop vet If al 956 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: Michaels will say the following yes, and there he goes, 957 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, that's interesting. I remember, well years ago there 958 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: was a prop bet and I think the first game 959 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: after the Flake days, and I saw it and it 960 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of play on the internet, and I 961 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 1: think the overrunder was two or two and a half, 962 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: and I said, let's just keep get this out of 963 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: the way to Flake. I went right to the over 964 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: so and there he goes, You know, I can be 965 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: bought in one hundred out of the bottom of wine, 966 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,479 Speaker 1: but I can't be bought Okay, steak dinner one hundred 967 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 1: dollar bo Well, yeah, you can't have a steak dinner 968 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: without one hundred dollars bottom one. No, but um, do 969 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: you talk more to Chris prior to the game or 970 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: less so you save it on the air. Now, you know, 971 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: we're always We talked to each other at least a 972 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: couple of times. We have our production meetings with Fredie 973 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: Delli and drewess Cha Kaffer, producer director Michelle Tafoya is 974 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: working with listening at Katherine Tappers, so we're all kind 975 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: of interconnected. We talked a lot to each other so 976 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: that you know, we know the stories. We share stories 977 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: with each other and then we decide how we want 978 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: to get there. But I mean it's going to be 979 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: like a regular game in that regard. This is the 980 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: same thing we do during the regular season. As I say, 981 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: even though this is the super Bowl and it's a big, big, 982 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: big deal, we do what we do during the get 983 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: the course of the year. The fascination with Joe Burrow 984 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: to be doing this in his second year, and to 985 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: say he's ahead of schedule is a grand understatement because 986 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: even if they're on schedule, you wouldn't think the Bengals 987 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: would be here. How big a story is that going 988 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: to be on Sunday for your broadcasting? Well, very of 989 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: course he's the quarterback with one of the teams, so 990 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: obviously that becomes a big story right at the at 991 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: the outset. But I think what I sensed during the 992 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: championship game in Kansas City is that a lot of 993 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: this country either I don't know, want to say, necessarily 994 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: fell in love, but we're fascinated by what the banks 995 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: did they down twenty one three. Everybody's thinking up today, 996 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes is going back to the Super Bowl third year 997 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: in a row. It's Kansas City against whoever would win 998 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: the RAM forty nine a game and somehow, some way. 999 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: I just sensed the way they came from behind. You know, 1000 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: for Borrow, nothing looks too big for him. I mean 1001 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: the way he stepped out of a couple of tackles 1002 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: when it looked like he was going to get sacked, 1003 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: running for first downs, doing what he did that day, 1004 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: winning an overtime, and just his body language and presence. Yeah, 1005 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: you look at it. You think, well, this guy has 1006 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: been in the league for ten of twelve years. But 1007 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: I think the country at that point, unless obviously you 1008 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: were rooting for Kansas City, kind of fell in love 1009 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: a little bit with the Bengals and went, wow, that's 1010 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: pretty cool. So that's the sense I get going into 1011 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: this game, and Borrow, of course it would be at 1012 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: the forefront of all of that. Do you remember what 1013 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: you thought when the Rams left Los Angeles? Yes, I do, 1014 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: because this is my hometown and I knew that in 1015 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: those years, I'm doing Monday night football and every game 1016 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 1: was going to be a road game. Now I wouldn't 1017 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: even get a game in Anaheim. I understood it, though, 1018 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: because the problem in this city an area was that 1019 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: every stadium was a relic. And that's why the Raiders, 1020 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: who had come down here, moved out of the Combisseum. 1021 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl was not an NFL type of stadium, 1022 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: but a beautiful setting, but not for the NFL. Anaheim 1023 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: Stadium was really a baseball stadium that they turned into 1024 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: a hybrid football stadium. So I understood it. I was 1025 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: not happy about it. But like everything else, these moves 1026 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: their money, or you know, follow the money. It's it's 1027 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: the old cliche about following the money, and that's what 1028 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: the Rams did. Saint Louis gave them a great deal, 1029 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: much better deal than they had in a way. They went, 1030 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: as did the Raiders back to open at that same, 1031 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: very same point. Do you think Tom Brady's retired? If 1032 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: I had to bet, I would say yes. I know 1033 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: that there's some other things out there. After his podcast 1034 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: the other day, I didn't hear it. I read about it. 1035 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: I felt when we did the Rams Tampa game that 1036 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: he that was going to be I thought it was 1037 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: like sixty four thirty six that he would retire, he 1038 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: would step away, because he gave us an answer in 1039 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 1: terms of when I asked him before that game about 1040 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: the perfect ending, he said, it involves a super Bowl 1041 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: might not be this year. And then he kind of 1042 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: went back and forth a lot, so I did think 1043 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 1: he was going to step away. I wasn't surprised when 1044 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: he stepped away. Now you got this other thing out there, 1045 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: I would be I would be surprised if he came back. 1046 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: Then I'm not saying he won't. And I don't have 1047 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: any inside and information about this stand. But if you know, 1048 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: I say I've had to make a bet, I would 1049 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: say he's not coming back. But does it work for 1050 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: broadcasters when you're at the top of your game, and 1051 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: like you know, if you when how do you walk away? 1052 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: When do you walk away? Who tells you to walk away? 1053 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: I thought for me, I mean in broadcasting, if I 1054 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: couldn't do do it the way I had to do 1055 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: it and want to do it, and my brain began 1056 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: to leak a little bit. Let's put it that way, 1057 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: it would be time to walk away. And I've got 1058 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: some you know, people who are very very close to 1059 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: me who would be the first to tell me, as 1060 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: if I wouldn't know myself. For a player, I don't know. 1061 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a very hard thing to do to 1062 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: walk away, because to recreate the buzz you get playing 1063 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: in Super Bowls and doing what Tom did. I mean, 1064 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: he's going to have a really good football afterlife. He's 1065 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: very smart, He's got a lot of things going. He 1066 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: can do any number of things, there's no question about that, 1067 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: and live a wonderful life. I'm not sure you can 1068 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: ever recreate the thrill, the thrill that an athlete can 1069 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: get when you're playing on the biggest stage that long. 1070 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you can do several things in business, you 1071 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: can do things in broadcasting, but I'm not sure you 1072 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: can recreate that thrill. And that's why a lot of 1073 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: coaches sometimes will step away going to the broadcast movie 1074 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: and then go back because at the end of the day, 1075 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: if you're coaching, you look up at that scoreboard at 1076 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: the end of the game, you know what you did, 1077 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: did you win, did you lose? In broadcasting, what are 1078 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: you supposed to do? Go on the internet and find 1079 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: that that everybody looks to you. Forget about it. Oh, 1080 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you about and that's always 1081 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: then always have fun and you're eleventh Super Bowl that 1082 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: ties Pat summer All for the most buy TV play 1083 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: by boys and Michelle Tafoya's last game on the sidelines 1084 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: for you guys too. Oh. I just want to say Michelle, 1085 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: she has been such a great partner. I've done three 1086 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: hundred broadcast with her basketball. We did the NBA back 1087 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: in the h three oh four seasons. Football. She is 1088 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: the best of the best. I'll put her up against 1089 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: any reporter in this country, print or electronic. And you know, 1090 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: Michelle tons of fun. She keeps us laughing. We're gonna 1091 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: miss her. I'm gonna miss her terribly because I mean, 1092 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: she's just she's just great to be with. Thank you, Boyd, 1093 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Thank you, Al, you bet Man, 1094 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: Thank yous Al Michaels