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Speaker 2: I agree, And especially when it comes down to like

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00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: stutting on other black people and shit, you do have

431
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: to wonder where it comes from and you gotta be

432
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: sure that it's righteous, because I know I've been in

433
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: positions where I have felt things about other black people

434
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: and had to go back and be like that ain't

435
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: come from a good place, you know, like sometimes it does.

436
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like there's no such thing as black

437
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: people that aren't being fucked up or aren't doing fucked

438
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: up things, But sometimes it comes from a place where

439
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, you just want better, you just want us,

440
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: you know, do you feel like these people are like harmful?

441
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: And then there's times where it comes from like some

442
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: respect ability shit, like right, I don't want white folks

443
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: to see us acting this way and ship like that,

444
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: and that's that's almost never good or black people is

445
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: the real problem that ship, you know, like that's almost

446
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: never good. So uh yeah, introspection and if you look

447
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: inside a lot of times you find that the things

448
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: you're lashing out that are really about you. You know,

449
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: we all know the people. We all have them muted,

450
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 2: We all have them, you know, like unfollowed, whatever the

451
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: fuck it is on our social media fees, in our lives,

452
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: we have that their phone number comes up with a

453
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: warning there, you know, yeah, the call id is like

454
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Speaker 2: here this nigga.

455
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: Go Asia pops up on your phone.

456
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: We all know these people in life, and we all

457
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: kind of like normally just avoid them. But those people

458
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: are in constant turmoil, always picking fights, always finding somebody

459
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: or something that's the bad guy because they can't they

460
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: don't have time to examine what's going on in their life,

461
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: what they're not happy with, what's bothering them, and so

462
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: every about somebody else. And I think we all can

463
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: do that. I've been there. I you know something you

464
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: can easily go back. It's not something like and then

465
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: I stopped, like, Nah, we all have moments where it's like,

466
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: why am I so obsessed with this thing that really

467
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: doesn't affect my life? Or this person I don't even

468
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: fucking know, and this obsession with I gotta take them

469
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: down or I gotta say, you know, let the world

470
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: know they're the worst person in the world. And it's like, oh,

471
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: because it's me, I don't. All this shit keeps me

472
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: from thinking about what the fuck I need to do right.

473
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: To fix me. And like I said before, that's one

474
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: thing nobody ever wants to fix themselves right.

475
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: Whether it's a money thing, whether it's your weight, whether health,

476
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: whether it's uh, you know, relationships. It's a bunch of

477
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: shit that a lot of people out here are avoiding

478
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: talking about because they're real things that they can work

479
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: on right, that deal with things in their life or

480
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: maybe things that they can't work on, and then there's

481
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of shit that's noise, you know. So the

482
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: razy pH done says five stars. I appreciate that Prince

483
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: Roderick goes through all the horrible news just to keep

484
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: us from having to The Daily Show is one of

485
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: my brother's favorites, and I love the diversity brings to

486
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: the show. Have a safe trip to and from California,

487
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: eat plenty of sushi for me. Deuces, Well we didn't

488
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: eat sushi.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I said we love sushi, and one of

490
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Speaker 4: the deuces they said, oh I wish I would have

491
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 4: known that.

492
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm fine, I'm fine.

493
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 4: I told him it didn't matter.

494
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed what I had tacos. It was a

495
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: whole thing. Maybe we'll talk about it tomorrow or something.

496
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was a whole, big ordeal

497
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: on my Twitter, it was I shook up the fucking

498
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: food world without knowing it right existence But yeah, we

499
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: didn't get sushi, but we did get dn typhoon, and uh,

500
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: that's what's more important, is the nutcracker boring? Was the

501
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: poll yes no and Z's as in sleep yes, twenty

502
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: find The Nutcracker to be born, twenty three percent said no,

503
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: it's not born. Fifty six percent said z's because they Yeah,

504
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: the review said these Yeah, they got the worst. It's

505
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: the worst review Disney film this year. The reviews was like, oh,

506
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: this ship is and that's that's after everybody was shitting

507
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: on earth Ava's film. I remember in February and February

508
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: after Black Panther came out. What the fuck was the

509
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: name of that film. I didn't read the books, Yeah,

510
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: but everybody was shitting on that, like it was so bad,

511
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: and y'all only didn't y'all didn't like it because and

512
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: then this ship came out. And I ain't heard a

513
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: peep from nobody about these reviews.

514
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: But I've heard like like like people said the Nutcracker

515
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: and you even said that the story yourself is not

516
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: an entertaining story, like.

517
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: Just the story a regular time.

518
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, the story yourself is not an entertaining story.

519
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: So it's like, unless you're gonna actually just jazz it up,

520
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be good.

521
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is, it looks like they did

522
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: jazz it up. But sometimes it just feels so like

523
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: this doesn't really apply to anything like the Nutcracker in

524
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: the Four Books of Hell, and it's you know, rats

525
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: fighting each other with samurai saws and ship and it's like,

526
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't don't think this is the thing that we

527
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: learned in school.

528
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: It's colorful, but you know, unless you're really going to

529
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: do something spectacular with it, this is probably one of

530
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: the ones that could have as far as bringing to

531
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: live action, could have skipped.

532
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I didn't. We haven't seen it, but Lacata says,

533
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: or Lakita says, I wouldn't know. I, like Karen, have

534
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: never seen it all when we would go we would

535
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: go on field trips. I only remember that one song

536
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: and dance played in every commercial every year around Christmas

537
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Dance or the Dance of the sugar Plums. I agree

538
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Disney might make it cute and watchable. Finally, Brooklyn Shoebase says,

539
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: my daughters were really into the Nutcracker when they were

540
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: younger because they started taking ballet age three. My youngest,

541
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: who is now eleven years old and a serious dancer,

542
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: is offended by the new Disney Nutcracker Cracker concept. She's

543
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: all about the source material. She was yelling at the

544
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: trailer and the lack of her in her young way.

545
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: She was like fuck Disney. She was like, dang dance,

546
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: and she said, ballet is only not born when I'm

547
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: watching my daughter's dance. That's my baby on stage. Yeah,

548
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: come on, I don't think ballet is my thing, but

549
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I've seen like Misty Copeland do

550
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: it or whatever, and if she can't make it, you know,

551
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: my thing, then I feel like nobody can. So it's

552
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: just not for me.

553
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: I've never really got into ballet, to be told, it's

554
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: one of them things. From my perspective. It wasn't until

555
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: I got older did I realize that niggas did ballet,

556
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: Because every time I seen ballet was the slim, small

557
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: white girls up there balleting and towiland. So you know,

558
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: I do know that black people do do ballet. So

559
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where I like to see

560
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: us doing and I like to see us in different

561
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: shapes and sizes, and everybody ballet ain't got to be

562
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: in size one out there doing that shit. So you know,

563
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, you, Roger, you need to make it entertainment

564
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: for me uor she ain't got to Worr about me showing.

565
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Up episode seventeen seventy four Hotels versus Motel, Paula says,

566
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: Jesus fucking Christ. Wow, I am crying, laughing, and might

567
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: also be peeing my pants at the same time. Rod,

568
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: you and Karen going to town on the two actors

569
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: in the Republican ad was the funniest thing I've heard

570
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: since you played Cooling the Gang celebration. After that, KKK,

571
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: God died, fucking dying laughing. Here, you guys are killing it. Karen,

572
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: you are in rere form. Fucking beautiful. Also, I totally

573
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, those two the Fake Black Women ad. I

574
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: remember it, come on, ain't no reading. But also I

575
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: totally appreciate LGBTQ news. Ending on an up note, I

576
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: have a young daughter who is gay, and it's good

577
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: to tell us some good news once in a while.

578
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: It is yo, it is I have to say too, Rod.

579
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: When you ask Karen what score she was gonna give

580
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler and she paused for so long it was

581
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: really poignant. I can hear the reservation in Karen's voice

582
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: at that moment. It touched me deeply, made me so

583
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: embarrassed and sad. That white women have been such a

584
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: colossal fucking disappointment to black women for so long, and

585
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: when she said, it's only when things affect you too

586
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: do you finally give a shit. It's the true Still

587
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: one of my favorite podcasts. I'm so fucking pleased that

588
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: you guys are taking off the way you are. I

589
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: expect you to explode onto the national scene any day now.

590
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: You are so fucking dope. You biggest, your biggest Canadian

591
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: white chick fan. Paula hugs and kisses, thank you. Yeah,

592
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and uh yeah, I don't you know,

593
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting because we do have things that keep

594
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: popping up for us, and you know, it's just been

595
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: one of those things where I've just been like yes

596
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: to everything.

597
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just going on. We're going along for the ride.

598
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I have I'll find out when we find out, right, Yeah,

599
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: it's not like I have no idea or then there

600
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: or whatever. We just kind of like, oh, sure, why

601
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: not try that. Uh So we'll see whenever that happens.

602
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: But things have been lining up. You know, we'll probably

603
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk about it either at the end

604
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: of the show or the next show right, Missus Jackson

605
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: says Ms. Karen, I damned this snap my neck when

606
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: you said, fuck that nigger, you need a hot bath,

607
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: because I felt like I felt that in my muscle.

608
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: So I know yours is all twisted up and tight.

609
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: I love you guys. I'm not sure if you guys

610
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: have talked about this before, but I love to hear

611
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: a sex segment from the two of you. I know

612
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Royan watches porn. I'm not sure if Karen feel's comfortable

613
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: talking about sex like that, but I love to hear

614
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: what you both have to say about sex, making, love, fucking,

615
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: and knocking boots. I'm gonna be honest, missus Jackson. I'm

616
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: not telling y'all shit.

617
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: We do talk about pouring us about the most sex

618
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: you're gonna get.

619
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not, I mean, honestly, it's more like there

620
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: has to be some shit for us. You know that.

621
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: You know the same way we don't tell y'all everything

622
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: about like my family or her family or all that.

623
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Some of the stuff is for us. And I feel

624
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: like as public quote unquote figures or whatever, there's like

625
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: this weird line of like oversharing to where it becomes

626
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: like while people will encourage it and call it like

627
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: sex positivity and all destigmatizingness, the second they don't like you,

628
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: it becomes a problem. It's like and then you said this,

629
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't know. There's only so much

630
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable telling y'all, although you know, if there's

631
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: like I don't mind talking about stuff like watching porn

632
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 2: because all of us do, right, you know, And I

633
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: don't feel like that's necessarily a personal thing. And normally

634
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: I do put it in like jokes, like I try

635
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: to just put it in like whatever. But you know,

636
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's a line there for us too,

637
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: even and I don't think I would want to bring

638
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: our sex life into it. And also, like low key,

639
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't understand how people feel that they have are

640
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: the authorities to give like sex advice if they haven't

641
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: like gone to school or like studied it or whatever.

642
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: And I have not, you know, I have not either.

643
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: The people that got degrees on how the human body

644
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: works and functions and how sex affects your life in

645
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: various different areas something that I don't know nothing about,

646
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: and I.

647
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: Do think it comes up in the conversations we have anyway,

648
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: like naturally, like like I try not to put any

649
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: topics off limit specifically, like so if it's relevant or

650
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: germane to like an article or something we're talking about,

651
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: and we just kind of talk about, like, well, this

652
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: is this with your body or this is something like

653
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: or what about this during sex? That's that's kind of

654
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: one thing. But I don't really want to turn into

655
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: like a sex segment because I don't know, I still

656
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: feel kind of weird about talking about that shit too

657
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: much or telling our personal business to people on that level.

658
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of good sex positive podcasts that

659
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: really specialize in that kind of stuff that probably you know,

660
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: know more and do more than us and research and

661
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: live that life and all that shit.

662
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: And you know, podcasts actually work in sex industries things

663
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: like that that could actually give you a more deeper

664
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: perspective and open up your eyes to areas of sex

665
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: and sexuality that you wouldn't even have thought of.

666
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and you know, and I did interview

667
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: a sex therapist for one of my medium talks. Is

668
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: very education behind play the paywall, but it's medium Talk.

669
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Thirty seven Renee Burwell Pandora's Awakening was an episode title.

670
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: So you know, we talked about it a little bit,

671
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: but I don't know some of the stuff. I can't lie.

672
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: It's almost a little too intimate. And I hate to

673
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: to say that, but that's the truth. I don't feel

674
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: like telling y'all all my business. Falcons Diva says Ron

675
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: and Karen, Karen and Rod. I have hollered in my

676
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: office multiple times. First Karen with the hard R then

677
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: the way y'all went in on that political ad. Whoo,

678
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck around lose his good paying job listening

679
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: to y'all while I'm at work. Please know that I

680
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: took the note of the Times down so I can

681
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: listen again when I get in the car. Every time

682
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: I think you're done, you start right back up again.

683
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Thank you, Falcons Diva. I forgot we did that. What

684
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: do you think of the father mentoring his son's bully.

685
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: That's the poll, that's the guy who took the sun

686
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: under his wing and stuff. What do you think about it? Karen?

687
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: It's inspirational, it's stupid, or it's dangerous.

688
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: It's inspirational, okay from his perspective. And it depends on

689
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: how you look at it, because some people may look

690
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 4: at it as being dangerous as somebody else's child. You know,

691
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: how do you know if their parents approve of this?

692
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: You know, who are you to go help somebody else's child.

693
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: They're are professionals that are trained, you know, they get paid,

694
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 4: they got degrees to do this. So I could see

695
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: it being kind of a mixed bag for me. I

696
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: think it's inspirational, but I know that the way you know,

697
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: the internets and people function, I could also see this

698
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: positive thing quickly turning into something very negative.

699
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the whole sex segment thing

700
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: we just talked about. I am not an expert, so

701
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: I don't really feel comfortable like making a segment out

702
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: of something because you know, I don't really know what

703
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. So but with the but the same

704
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: thing with this guy, he's like not a professional mentor.

705
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: He is not a feeling with any programs. This is

706
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: just something that he feels God called him to do

707
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: to help this boy out who was bullying his son.

708
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, I can see all three of these like people,

709
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: I can see all three of these opinions people feel

710
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: in inspired by because hey, it's something new, it's something

711
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: that we don't really see it's a black kid, a

712
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: black man being a mentor to a black kid, and

713
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: plus his own son is involved and there's no violence

714
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: and stuff. We often see parenting for the internet and

715
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: it's these horrific abuses and stuff, you know, side note,

716
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: not even side note. Can we stop? Can people stop

717
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: sharing videos of child abuse and asking people what they

718
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: think about it? Because I've seen that so many times

719
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: over my years on social media and stuff. And I

720
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: was just reminded of that this week because Stoer shared

721
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: a video like a black girl in a bikini like twerking,

722
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: and then the and then later the video cuts to

723
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: her father hitting her with a belt in the kitchen

724
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: while she still got the bikini on or whatever, and

725
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: it's like, you know that all teach him or something.

726
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: And then the other people are like, do you think

727
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: she went too hard? Do you think you went too hard?

728
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: And the other people are I think, you know, that's

729
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: what you gotta do. And I'm in the whole time,

730
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: like why are y'all sharing this on the internet? Well,

731
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: this is fucking child abuse, for one. But let's say

732
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: you don't think it's child abuse, you know other people

733
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: will think it's child abuse. Why are you sharing this

734
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: fucking video on the internet? Two? Who is a fuck?

735
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: What the fuck other people think about? Like thoughts? What

736
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: is that gonna do? Y'all gonna have a form on

737
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: child abuse and figure it out today. No, you just

738
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: want to share this viral video of a fucking child

739
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: being beaten. Man, And it's traumatic, and you shouldn't fucking

740
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: show that shit. And you could have just described it.

741
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: You could have just said, man, I saw this video

742
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: and it's terrible and somebody should report this guy for

743
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: child abuse or something rather than let's have a discussion.

744
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: And whoever filmed that shit shouldn't have filmed it in

745
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: the first place. Like all of it's kind of ridiculous

746
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: to me. So, you know, it's just crazy that people

747
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: find like that kind of thing is completely acceptable quote unquote,

748
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: like not acceptable as it everybody agrees, but acceptable is it.

749
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: It's become the norm that you share a video of

750
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: someone smacking their kid or some shit and we go, wow,

751
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have did that, but click share next share it, Hey,

752
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: this is terrible. Share share like you just put that

753
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: out there. Meanwhile, this dude did something different, something that

754
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: he's trying to do something positive that's not involving violence

755
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: or any of that type of shit, and people were

756
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: still trying to be like, this is too much, Why

757
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: would you put this business out there? I'm like, are

758
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: y'all the same people? I wonder what the van diagram is.

759
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: I can't say they are the same people, but I

760
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: do wonder if the diagram of let me share somebody

761
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: punching their child in the stomach, and why are you

762
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: sharing this charity video? I wonder if it's the same,

763
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, right?

764
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: And also the thing is when it comes to a

765
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: lot of these video and we talked about the four

766
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 4: average person wants a train wreck, and guess what, that's

767
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: too positive. That's not a fucking train wreck so that

768
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 4: you can chair and chair. So because it's going down

769
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: your timeline, you can't joke and you can't laugh, and

770
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: you can't you know, get your puns on. All of

771
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, it's almost like you waste while

772
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: y'all sharing this ship and I can't find anything to

773
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 4: crack a pope fun at it. So then you come

774
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: from a where you're sharing too much, and if that's

775
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: the case, nothing funny be consistent if that's too much,

776
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: then this is too much too Like if that's the case,

777
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: either both should be too much, like where's your line?

778
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: And then the other part of it is this, it's

779
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: you know, I understand you putting the kids face out there.

780
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: I do understand. It's just I don't I think we've

781
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: normalized violence in a way that correct it is. So

782
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: it's not good to go, especially against children. You know,

783
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: it's just not good. U Anyway, Luketta says, it appears

784
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: harmless and well intended and seems to have had a

785
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: positive effect on the other boy in his family. I

786
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 2: hope it stays that way. Seventy seven percent of people

787
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: thought it was inspirational, eleven percent thought it was stupid,

788
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: in eleven percent thought it was dangerous. So there you go.

789
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm more on the inspirational side as of

790
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: right now. You know, maybe it changes that she said,

791
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: but to me, I was like, oh cool, somebody's trying

792
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: to do something different, you know. Right, if this would

793
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: have just been a video of him making his son

794
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: fight that boy, they would have shared it a million

795
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: times and been mad at that too. So right, all right.

796
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: We got no comments for episode seventeen seventy five, my

797
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: dear brother Nature dear spelled of course the eer. But

798
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: we did have a poll with comments. Should people hold

799
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: those tweets against Brother Nature forever? This is when Brother

800
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Nature at between twelve and fourteen years old, when he

801
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: was on Twitter, he was saying some real problematic shit,

802
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, like hal Hitler white power and he's not

803
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: obviously not white. And I think it was ironic that

804
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: he said it did but still, you know, people don't

805
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: care about that. He said some shit about Chris Brown

806
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: all this stuff, So yes, it should be held against

807
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: his twelve to fourteen year old self for the rest

808
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: of his life. Eight percent of y'all are to fuck

809
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: that shit. He should have never said it.

810
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 4: I hope y'all never screwed up and did anything fucked

811
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 4: up in your lifetime at the age.

812
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: Of eight, well, twelve or fourteen, to be fair.

813
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: With twelve or fourteen. I hope you. I hope that

814
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 4: you did everything fucking perfect. I hope you did. I

815
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: hope you didn't fuck up at all at all. I

816
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: hope you did. I hope you got straight a's, you

817
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: obade your parents, you ain't wrong. I hope that you

818
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: was fucking perfect, because no child is perfect at that age.

819
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: Ninety two percent, the overwhelming majority said Nah, you can't

820
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: against forever. Uh Keana says it will be an out

821
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: of Some of us have said harbor to speakable things

822
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: not that long ago as adults. He was a kid.

823
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: Things that have grown up and it ain't that deep.

824
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: Brooklyn shoe Ba says, if you could have heard the

825
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: stupid and trash stuff I said in my teens in twenties,

826
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: uh acs would take away my kids.

827
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 4: It just wouldn't record it. That's that's the thing, and

828
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: that's what kills me sometimes about adults. Most people my

829
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: age are older, live in the age with shit wasn't recorded.

830
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: Shit wasn't recorded. There's no foul. There's nothing you can

831
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: pull up again to show you the fucked up and

832
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: foul shit that you said. And because of that, you

833
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 4: want to judge this generation and that like is a

834
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: fucking run strike you out. But you wouldn't want You

835
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't want that standard place, don you.

836
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: It's people that can't admit they wrong about shit they

837
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: said today. Come on like, I don't like anyway. And

838
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: he didn't double down or anything.

839
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: Right now, if he would have doubled down. Okay, that's cool,

840
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: but he was like, that's fucked up. Yes, but I

841
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: was twelve to fourteen nigga.

842
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Right, And he didn't even personally say it that way, like,

843
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: but I was like, he literally was just like, yeah,

844
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: that was fucked up, and I apologize. And part of

845
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: the reason I'm trying to do what I do now

846
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: is to kind of turn my life around, to show

847
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: people that you don't have to.

848
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: Be like that, and people change. I hope you are

849
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: not the same person you was from twelve to fourteen.

850
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: Hormonal changes going on, getting to this Starna period, went drink,

851
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: all this crazy shit going on at that age.

852
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: Episode seventeen seventy six, Welcome to the Cookout, Magan Kelly

853
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: av He says, although I think Megan Kelly is racist,

854
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: I think she was saying provocative things on purpose to

855
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: get fired because she was getting guaranteed money and was

856
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: probably tired of the criticism she didn't get at Fox.

857
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: She finished the hell out of NBC, and they deserve

858
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: it for hire in the first place. I've heard that

859
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: theory floated out, and maybe it is that simple.

860
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it is.

861
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: You don't think it is okay, maybe it's that simp people,

862
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: and you're right that she wanted to get fired. I

863
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: personally do not think so. I would love to see

864
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: what that contract really worded, what it really is, because

865
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: I've heard speculation that she's gonna get all that money,

866
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: but I haven't really seen anyone say, like confirmed that

867
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: she would get that money correct. It'll be interesting to

868
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: see how that works out too. I think both things

869
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: can be true. Where her show was struggling, she would

870
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: have been more comfortable on Fox, which she probably can

871
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: never go back to, or she can't go back to

872
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: anyway because she me tooed out of there. Everyone always

873
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: forgets she violated the code on her way out, which

874
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: was I am going to use some feminism to get

875
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: myself out of this off, out of this company. And

876
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that they allow her back. I don't

877
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: even know that. I'm not saying they want allow her back.

878
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that she can keep her same fans

879
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: because a lot of the women that watched her show

880
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: were very much like those Trump supporting women who think that,

881
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's not rape, rape, and what's wrong with

882
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: grabbing pussies? And you know Kavanaughs just being a bad boy.

883
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that they still identify with Megan Kelly

884
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: because she's tried. She's to feminism as Kanye West as

885
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: the racism where she'll pull it out to protect herself.

886
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: I guarantee she's gonna pull it out to make sure

887
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: she gets her money. Here like this will become a

888
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: feminist issue if she doesn't get her money, because you

889
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: can't like get rid of people like Less Moon Vest

890
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: and Harvey Weinstein and give them parachute payments on the

891
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: way out and not give me my money. So I

892
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: definitely can see how she might get her money, but

893
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't so anyway. So I do think you know

894
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: she can get her money. She could. She was struggling,

895
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: she was, she was not doing good on that show.

896
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: She may have even wanted out possibly, and maybe your

897
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: conspiracy is right. I personally, though, do not think she

898
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: wanted out of show. And the reason I don't think

899
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: she wanted out is the same reason I don't think

900
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: a guy like Roger Sterling I think it's his name,

901
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: the dude who used to own the Clippers. I don't

902
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: think people like that have put their ego aside for

903
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: money because they're going to get They're going to get

904
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: the money anyway. In their minds, the money is theirs

905
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: and they deserve it because they're great and they're better

906
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: than everybody else, and that money belongs to them because

907
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: of their own privilege and entitlement. So I don't think

908
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: it lines up with their worldview that they would want

909
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: to lose face in front of everyone, even if they

910
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: got all the money in the world. They would rather

911
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: keep the ego part going because the money to them

912
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: is a given. So they're like, I want to keep

913
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: the show because it's my name, is my show, and

914
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: I know what I'm fucking doing. I don't care about

915
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: the ratings. I don't care that these sensitive cucks think

916
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: that my show isn't good and my interviews are too rough.

917
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm Megan Kelly, bitch. This is my And so when

918
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: they get or they lose something like this, I think

919
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: that this is almost worse than not having the money

920
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: to people like this, right, they like if they had

921
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: a choice where they said, listen, you'll get half the

922
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: money that you are old, but you will get to

923
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: keep your TV show even with terrible ratings and reviews.

924
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: We won't be able to take it away from you.

925
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: I think she picked that, that's you know, and I

926
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: think the same way I think Donald Sterlin doesn't. I

927
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: think Donald Sterling would have rather had the clippers than

928
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: that fucking six billion dollars or whatever. Like he took

929
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: that six billion dollars regretsingly, because the worst thing for

930
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: a rich, entitled white person is to be told no,

931
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: that's worse. That's worse than the fucking money thing. They're

932
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: gonna be rich and tide of white people no matter what.

933
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: So we have to take that off the table because

934
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: everyone thinks there's gonna be like this financial cost of

935
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: being racist, and it never is, and not for this

936
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: level of racism. So we have to stop that pipe

937
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: dream shit. I mean, feel how you feel about it,

938
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: but it's it's a pipe dream to be like, hey,

939
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: they was gonna come get her chair, Like, no, they weren't.

940
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: No matter what happened, she could say nigger, nigga, nigga

941
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: on the air, she was probably gonna get secure some

942
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: type of bag. I don't know what the language says

943
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: if that's the case. But losing the show, that's the

944
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: part they never put in their plans, Losing face in

945
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: front of everyone, you know, everyone's seeing that failure and

946
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: they can't deny that's the part they don't like. So

947
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: that's how I felt about it. The other conspiracy that's

948
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: been floating around to is the people saying she didn't

949
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: know that black face was wrong. I like, watch the

950
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: segment again because some people, I think have lost the

951
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: context of the discussion. She knew it was wrong because

952
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: the conversation was it was wrong. The segment wasn't even

953
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: about something else. It was. It's not that she lucked

954
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: into saying something offensive. The whole fucking thing was blackface

955
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: is offensive. But I don't accept that. So you can't

956
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: even do the like how she's supposed to know black

957
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: faces wrong. She brought up an example at the end

958
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: of Another Woman just last year, having a controversy over blackface.

959
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: You can't have the example on deck on a fucking

960
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: TV show, which means they did prep work to bring

961
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: that picture on the screen. You have to So you

962
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: have to keep your mind sharp while you're watching this shit,

963
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: because what happens is we, especially with white women, our

964
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: natural instincts in them as Americans and the white supremacist,

965
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: patriarchal capitalist society is to turn around and say to

966
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: infantilize white women, to put victimhood, to put that cloak

967
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: of They didn't really mean it. And I'm talking even

968
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: these well intentioned like I don't like Megan Kelly. I

969
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: think she's racist. People, they start putting a story together

970
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: for her of she just said some off the cuff

971
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: shit and and lucked into saying something racism by accident,

972
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: and now everybody wants her to lose her job. Well,

973
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: she being a racist. I don't like her. That's not

974
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: what happened. She is a known fucking racist. Talked about

975
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: blackface interd thing was I'm gonna stun on these holes

976
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: and tell y'all why black face is okay, and y'all

977
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: kiss my ass on mag Kelly and there will be

978
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: no consequences. That's my personal belief. They will find out

979
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: there's a conspiracy. But you're talking about when you're talking

980
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: about this conspiracy to get off the show, you know

981
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: how even producers have to be in on this, right,

982
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: the people that that get the do the segments, the

983
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: people that get the fucking they.

984
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: Had means about this shit, bitch. They had meetings everybody.

985
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like they're like these things aren't off the cuff,

986
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: and even getting the picture and the research for the

987
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: other black face controversy, I had to do that right.

988
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: The fact that the other three panels set up there

989
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: and told her mm hmmm and tried to save her

990
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: multiple times changed the topic even and she brought it

991
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: back to blackface. She's just a racist. This is what

992
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: racist people do. We don't need to create an extra

993
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: story where it's all a conspiracy to lose your show

994
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: or to get your money. You are just you were

995
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 2: gonna lose that show for bad ratings anyway. You are

996
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: going to say racist stuff because you say racist stuff.

997
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: It's just to me, I don't know. To me, it's

998
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: just she doesn't need to be given a cover story.

999
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: She's just a racist, and we don't need to go

1000
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: she didn't mean it. She meant it. She didn't make

1001
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: it that long in this industry as a newswoman. I

1002
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: bet you money. Now, I personally will not take the

1003
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: time because I didn't watch her show. But I bet

1004
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: you guys money, if you watched enough of her Fox show,

1005
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: someone could figure out on YouTube and put a complete

1006
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: collection of all the clips of her covering black face

1007
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: stories for the last twenty years because blackface is Halloween

1008
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: is always a story. It's always been a story. And

1009
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: I bet you money she's talked about this topic before

1010
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: on her the show. So to say that she did

1011
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: not know it was racist is a lie in something

1012
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: that you're giving her because she's a white woman. That's it.

1013
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: There's not another deeper layer to it. She's not ignorant,

1014
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: she's not stupid, she's a worldly woman. She's in the

1015
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 2: news media this story, I guarant fucking tee it. There's

1016
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: footage of her talking about this before. This is the

1017
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: same woman that did the Santa Claus is white, the

1018
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: same woman that said Jesus is white, the same woman

1019
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: that said that the black women who were arrested by

1020
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: the police were no angels and they were children. The

1021
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: same woman that blamed saintra Bland for her own death.

1022
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: This woman is a racist. She's just a blond, smiling,

1023
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: traditionally attractive in the ways that most white people consider

1024
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: what's attractive racist and that's it. We don't need to

1025
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: give her any extra room or rope. She's just a racist,

1026
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: and good fucking riddance. The poe was is Magan Kelly

1027
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: saying racist stuff on purpose. Yes, she's trying to go

1028
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: viral and reach racist Now, see that's what I think happened.

1029
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: I'mna be honest to get ring. The only conspiracy I

1030
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: believe is that she thinks she can appeal to the

1031
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: Roseanne bar type, you know, tim the two man Taylor

1032
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: type people. But guess what they not watching?

1033
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: Uh up, they're not up in the morning watching a

1034
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: ten to two show like that, like that that bud

1035
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about stay at home moms. They're not watching

1036
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 4: your shit.

1037
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something else, though, is still some

1038
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: of them an stay at home moms? Right? They could

1039
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: watch the show. They're not watching her show because she

1040
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: also chrows that line of using feminism when it's convenient.

1041
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: That's why they're not. She she is at the nexus

1042
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: of all the things that are unlikable. Right. If she

1043
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: went full Hill and was all the way like I'll

1044
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: make America great again, I love Trump, then she might

1045
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: get some of those people correct. But she won't because

1046
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: she doesn't like Trump insaulted her. Uh and she she

1047
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: has a personal level of like feminist force field around

1048
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: her for just her shit. Now nobody else is just

1049
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: her shit, and that's just enough. To piss off the

1050
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: white women that you know like. They like Trump, they

1051
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: like Kavanaugh. It's just enough of them to be like

1052
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: fuck making Kelly right, that's all you need.

1053
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 4: You're not getting them. You ain't getting them numbers.

1054
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: That's all you need, and you don't have enough charm

1055
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: to get anyone else to like you showed down so

1056
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: that she's stuck in the rut. It was a terrible idea.

1057
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: And if too know she is a racist, she just

1058
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: can't help herself. I could also hear that too. Sixty

1059
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: six percent Mster all of that shit says, I'm so

1060
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: sick of her. My bedroom TV is on HG antenna

1061
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: and NBC is the one network that picks up, so

1062
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I get to listen to foolish program while I'm getting

1063
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: ready for work. She literally talks about nothing the whole show.

1064
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: I really hope NBC just has her on so they

1065
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: can so her contract plays out and they don't have

1066
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: to give her any free coins to go away. But

1067
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: all of me wants them to just pull her off

1068
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: the air and put holder with her cocktails in a

1069
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: time slot. Y'all won't tammering to get it. But the

1070
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: thing I was gonna say about this if they do

1071
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: have to give her that money. I also I actually

1072
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: afford that, mm hmm. I think this should be as

1073
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: costly as possible. And if that means she gets rich,

1074
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. She was gonna be rich anyway.

1075
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 4: Them they never should have gave it a goddamn job

1076
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: in the first place.

1077
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope she gets every fucking penny and more. I'll

1078
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: she sues them as she gets some more money.

1079
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: In court right there, go to court, drag it all out,

1080
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: and and and so to injury. I hope you put

1081
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: somebody brown in a fucking spot.

1082
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: Because when you put a motherfucking scorpion on your back

1083
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: and try to cross the river, you can't get halfway

1084
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: through the river, And say, why why did you see me?

1085
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: Right? Because it's their fault, because I guarantee you somebody told.

1086
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: Them it's a bad idea.

1087
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 4: To hire her.

1088
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: And then why everyone told bucket, everyone told them it's

1089
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: not There is no excuse here. They do deserve to

1090
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: lose every penny. And I hope she sues them and

1091
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 2: gets even more. I hope she gets a fucking discrimination case.

1092
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: Come out all of it, and they have to settle

1093
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: and give her more. I hope all all of it,

1094
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: because whoever made this decision deserves to be fired as well.

1095
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: Come out and it should be and everyone should be like,

1096
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 2: this is why we don't deal with fucking overt racist

1097
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: at our job. Laketta says, like most white women, she's

1098
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: comfortable in her forty seven years of unchecked racism. That's

1099
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: why she was so surprised about the reaction to her

1100
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: harmless from Mark. Yeah, it felt genuine to me. That's

1101
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: the only time she's ever felt genuine on that fucking

1102
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: show being racist. I said, oh, now see that's the

1103
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: real making Kelly. You could have.

1104
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: Right, right, because any other time that shit felt stiff.

1105
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: The pole I mean. The next episode was a review

1106
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: for The Walking Dead Martin Luther Rick versus Maggie X.

1107
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: Now this is two weeks old, obviously, since we've done

1108
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: another review since then, but we did get three comments. Okay,

1109
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: let's see what you guys have to say for our

1110
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Walking Dad review. Turk says, Hi, guys, the more I

1111
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: think about Jadens, the more I hate her. Ass. I

1112
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: just remember the episode where Nigan was about the bash

1113
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: Car's head in Before the Tiger the Kingdom and Hilltop

1114
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: save Alexandra. She had made a deal with Niggan to

1115
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: receive people in exchange to help the Saviors attack Alexandria.

1116
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: That's true. She's a filthy slave trader all because of Juncti.

1117
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: CON's too lazy, it's stupid to grow their own food.

1118
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: She is literally and figuratively trash. I hope she accidentally

1119
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: gets killed by one of her art projects, Peace Turk.

1120
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: You know what she just made me think about Turk.

1121
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: What if the people she's trading whoever she's trading people with,

1122
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: is Georgie's colony. That would put a twist on everything

1123
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: if Georgie Colony does slave trading on the back, on

1124
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: the back end of everything, right, like they present one

1125
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: face to Maggie and it turned out anyway. Ps Who

1126
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: knows how many other groups she knows about because she

1127
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: said that they take, but don't bother. I support a

1128
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: group as big as the Juncti cons To support a

1129
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: group as big as a Juncti cons that to take

1130
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: a lot, which means she could have had access to

1131
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: groups all over DC, Virginia, Maryland area. She's dangerous. Yeah,

1132
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: and by take, I guess you meant take people too.

1133
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: Come and which is a bother technically Heavyweight says, while

1134
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: rebuilding is a logical next step, I feel like one

1135
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: of the major draws of the show is a chaos

1136
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: and anarchy. I think that a lot of people fantasize

1137
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: about living lawless, forgetting that Survival of the Fitness wouldn't

1138
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: include them. I'm loving this pacing. I thought we wouldn't

1139
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: find out who was doing the killing until season break.

1140
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm betting they let little Rachel kill Jacob and that's

1141
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: why he got the hit in the chest instead of

1142
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: the head. I'm gonna need Gabe to sack up and

1143
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: hit him with the Alicia Keys voice I won't tell

1144
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: your secrets. And now he's stepping in front of her

1145
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: before the fight with the Saviors and line for her.

1146
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: I hope she knocked some sensit to him with that

1147
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: radio to the head. I don't disagree that working together

1148
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: to rebuild is the right decision, but after phil Rick

1149
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: is pushing too hard to make all the groups work together.

1150
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: It seems like he's willing to set the unity of

1151
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: the other three groups oh to let the unity of

1152
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: the other groups see groups dissolved to force the Savior

1153
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: square pag into a round hole, and it seems more

1154
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 2: out of spite to Nigan this right and wrong. I'm

1155
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: cool with Rick decided not to kill the Saviors, but

1156
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: you can't take that choice away from everyone else who

1157
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: had all the reasons in the world and expect things

1158
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: to go Smoothe Yeah, well, I will say this though,

1159
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's out of spite to Ningga. I

1160
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: think it's more about Carl, right, because I think he

1161
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: really wakes up every day and wants to kill Nigga

1162
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: and then it goes Carl wouldn't want that, correct, especially

1163
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: considering the methods they chose to bring these communities to

1164
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: under subjugation. The Saviors struck first, or all the groups

1165
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: in the area. If Daryl hadn't put had the RPG

1166
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: on the back of the gas truck, little Timmy and

1167
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: Dick Brigrade would have killed Abe and being at Alexandria

1168
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: that night with all the Saviors, and that's before the

1169
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: compound raid, I honestly don't see how you can make

1170
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: them fit looking forward to next week. Well, everyway, you

1171
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: was right, bro, because that nobody wanted to see that apparently, Well,

1172
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: the older side lady stopped killing saviors. Now no one

1173
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: should start, you can't stop, or yes, they've satisfied their revenge.

1174
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: Seventy percent think they're gonna keep killing saviors. They said

1175
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: it was the last one, but you know who knows.

1176
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: But now I don't think they can stop because the

1177
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: Saviors figured out who's been killing them, so now it's

1178
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: a war. And yes, they satisfied their avenge. Thirty percent

1179
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: thought the ladies would keep their word. So episode seventeen

1180
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: seventy eight, this whole got roaches in her career. Our

1181
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: book review. We had Vice in our house. I know

1182
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: Vice News was here. They were, They interviewed us, cardered us.

1183
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: Some people was like, I hope they don't mess up

1184
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: the interview or cut it to make y'all look bad

1185
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I'm like, you know what, man, what

1186
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: can I do? Like, I just you know, they they

1187
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: seem to be on the up and up and be cool,

1188
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: but I don't know what their story editing is gonna

1189
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: look like. I don't even know if any of our

1190
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: shit's gonna make the story because the story ain't about us.

1191
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: It's about Kwanmells and who is he in real life?

1192
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: And what the fuck is he? Representing how is he

1193
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: making a living doing this shit?

1194
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: So we don't know how much or if any like

1195
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: how they're gonna chop all.

1196
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: Any of this right, So only thing we did was

1197
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: really talk about the book and you know, and just

1198
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: kind of black shit, like the fine line between entertaining

1199
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: black folks and being representative to black folks and what

1200
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: responsibility of any there is to that. People feel about it?

1201
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: H Aquilla right saying, Hi, Rod and Karen, this review

1202
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: was everything. I haven't read the book and I'm not

1203
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: sure if I will, but I cackle throughout the whole review.

1204
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: I really liked the way you broke the book down

1205
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: and highlighted the nuanced approach to what was supposed to Beniglatcha.

1206
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: Rod's comparison of roaches to ants took me all the

1207
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: way down. I was laughing so hard that the person

1208
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: in the office next door came to see if I

1209
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: was okay. I owe you out a five star review,

1210
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go do that before I forget, and

1211
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: you did it. Thank you. Thanks for all that you do, Aquilla,

1212
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Yeah. I mean, look, I enjoyed

1213
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 2: the fuck out of that book. Like the cover from

1214
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: the cover and stuff. I thought it would actually be

1215
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: worse than it was as quality or whatever, you know,

1216
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: But I still I still enjoyed it the way I

1217
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: enjoyed loving hip hop, like it was nothing. I didn't

1218
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: take no lessons with me. I did not feel like

1219
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: it was a positive portrayal of blackness necessarily or anything

1220
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: like that, but it was entertaining to me. Yes, Brooklyn

1221
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: shoe Bay says, I didn't read the book, but your

1222
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: recap had me in throw out. I need to know

1223
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: what happened. Also, I did feel a way because my

1224
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 2: government named Ryan's with Fred Klisha. Oh, I'm not gonna

1225
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: guess what it is. But Joe writes in why am

1226
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: I still thinking about that poor little fictitious girl three

1227
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: days after listening to that review. Is kwal Mills that

1228
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 2: good a writer? Or did Rod and Karen once again

1229
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: succeed in pulling reason out of ratchet? I was this

1230
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: close to purchasing the story for myself. The author has

1231
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy reviews on Amazon. But the author

1232
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: picture snapped me back to reality. Yeah, that that was

1233
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: such a weird picture for him to pick. The one

1234
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: with the dude is tongue hanging out. I don't know

1235
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: if everybody in that picture.

1236
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: Of it, because that's what that's what I thought, they looked.

1237
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I mean I didn't think that was him.

1238
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: I just thought, what a It's like, I think he

1239
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: must have just googled the ratchet and just that was

1240
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: the first and that would make sense. I'm going to

1241
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: listen to Rodd's interview with the author and didn't decide,

1242
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: I like, how much thought y'all are putting into getting

1243
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: this book or not? This was not an ad for

1244
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: the book or.

1245
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 4: Like should I should? I not right.

1246
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: It's like if you didn't read it for the book club,

1247
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would read it now. I mean,

1248
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: you know, do what you want to do, But I

1249
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: don't know, Like that was it. The poe was do

1250
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: you think Kwan Mills hates black women? Yes? No? Or

1251
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: I haven't decided. Cam, what do you think you don't

1252
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: think he hates them? Hmm? I don't know. Even at

1253
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: the interviewing him, I feel like it's the thing where

1254
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: I feel like he has issues with black women, even

1255
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: if he wouldn't admit me. But I have never met

1256
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: a person that admit they have issues with black women.

1257
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks they have issues with black women. Multiple times,

1258
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: I've had conversations with people no one thinks they have

1259
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: issues with women period, but especially black women. So multiple

1260
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 2: times I've interviewed guys that I thought definitely have hang

1261
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: ups about black women, you know, as shay V. I

1262
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: interview him for a medium talk, and to me, it's

1263
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: blatantly obvious that they do has issues. I was surprised

1264
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: that Kwan Mills did not see that criticism even coming,

1265
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: like he felt like, where are these people even getting

1266
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: this from? To me, I'm like, look at your covers,

1267
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: look at the titles. For those that only know that

1268
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: part privilege, how can Yeah, it's definitely privilege. My ability

1269
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: to interview him is privileged because I'm sure if I

1270
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 2: was a black you know, there's a lot of black

1271
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: women got mad and cuss his ass off. I hung up,

1272
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm kind of shielded by that that

1273
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: male privilege where I'm like, okay, well explain that. Okay,

1274
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: so you don't see this all right, Well, got to

1275
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: move on to the next thing. I don't want to

1276
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: do this for an hour. But I don't know, I

1277
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: don't know if it's hates I think hates is obviously

1278
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: a strong word. I did create the pole, but I

1279
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: think he definitely has issues. Though I think he got

1280
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: issues around black women, I would agree, And I think

1281
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: it's more about just blackness in general, because there's a

1282
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: classism and a judgment that he has. I don't find

1283
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: it to be unique. I think I think he's representative

1284
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: of a lot of black folks, black people in my

1285
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: family that are like, I don't know why these you know,

1286
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: poor black people keep killing each other. We used to

1287
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: be poor, and you gotta get you gotta not do

1288
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: shit like that. You can't go to prison, you know. Like,

1289
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't think what he's saying is so like necessarily controversial,

1290
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: but I think the fact that you're kind of you've

1291
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: monetized that judgment, You've monetized that kind of class's approach

1292
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: to some of this the cause. You know, if you

1293
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: look at the titles, they are like section eight, whole,

1294
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: Gut a hole, CNA whole, Like it's all it's like,

1295
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: you know this bitch, So it is like it like

1296
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: to to be the kind of person that's comfortable profiting

1297
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: off of that. I don't know how you can turn

1298
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: around and say you have no issues. I just don't

1299
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: know how it's, you know, And I don't know that

1300
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: he's that unique or different because look at hip hop,

1301
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: you know, half my favorite artists can't finish a sentence

1302
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: without calling somebody a bitch or a whole or even

1303
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: if it's you know, the universal bitch that we all like,

1304
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm not just talking about a woman, talking about anybody.

1305
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: Even then, it still is a thing, you know. I

1306
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: love Kendrick Kendrick. Kendrick's gonna be a misogynist by nature.

1307
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: I love a lot of artists, you know, women and

1308
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: men too. This is just even a man thing. And

1309
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: I do think this genre is misogynistic and very like

1310
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: it profits, it profit, it makes money off of anti blackness.

1311
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: The genre does right the same way like I love it.

1312
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: Hip hop does the same way, like it makes money

1313
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: off of this this kind of portrayal of blackness that

1314
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: some people would feel uncomfortable with or whatever. So I

1315
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: don't know all like all of that to say, like,

1316
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: I do think he has issues. I hate maybe too strong,

1317
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you can. I don't know

1318
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: how you cannot feel that he has issues, you know,

1319
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: like him dating a black woman that's not really anything

1320
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: here or there. I mean, maybe that proves that he

1321
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: that his book called My My Bad White Bitch. Maybe

1322
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: he's looking at it that way, like to see this

1323
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: proves that I'm not just out here dating white women

1324
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: because I think black women ain't shit. Yeah, maybe you

1325
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: might feel that way that that that is disproven, But

1326
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: I don't know that it disproves that you like don't

1327
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: have issues around black women.

1328
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 4: Right. It's a lot of dudes that mary have two

1329
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 4: and then maybe Mama's and stuff with black women that

1330
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: still don't like them.

1331
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but uh, the pole, yes, twenty percent things

1332
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: he does hate black women, forty percent says no, they

1333
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: don't think he hates black women, and forty percent haven't

1334
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: decided yet. I'm probably not haven't decided yet. Kep in

1335
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: that I would need to read more of his shit

1336
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: to really feel like, Okay, this dude just fucking has

1337
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: issues with it. That's understandable, you know. But I didn't

1338
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: get that vibe from this book, particularly because I felt

1339
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: like all the bad shit was heaped onder like one person,

1340
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: Fred Kushan, and you know, maybe her little crewe of people,

1341
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: and then you had a bunch of other black women

1342
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: in the book that weren't fucked up, So you know,

1343
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: it's hard to get it from this way, But I

1344
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: don't know, Man, look at those titles. Man, it's uh,

1345
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: it's kind of that chicken and egg thing. Like what's

1346
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: worse to not be misogynistic quote unquote, like to not

1347
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: be a person that hates black women and the profit

1348
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: off of that language, or to be a person that

1349
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: hates black women and then lie and say you don't well,

1350
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, Like to me, it's almost

1351
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,879
Speaker 2: worse to be like, nah, I actually don't have these issues.

1352
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't do that. But I just realize people buy books.

1353
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: If you do call them that, it's almost worse, you know,

1354
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: because it's like it's very conscious decision you made that. Well,

1355
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna live my life one way and my books,

1356
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, fuck it. If you want to buy a

1357
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: book that you want to buy a book, what am

1358
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: I gonna say? It's a remarket, you know, Like, and

1359
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 2: I had to think about it personally because like, I

1360
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: would never name our show something that I thought, you

1361
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like that would be like if

1362
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: we named every episode of the show like stupid Hoes

1363
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: and Bitches Part three and but but our downloads went

1364
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: up to a million downloads of episode. I would not

1365
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: be able to do that, Like I would feel a

1366
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: way about that shit. Even if we got rich, I'd

1367
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, it's not worth being rich if this

1368
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: is how I gotta do it. So you know, it's

1369
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: very much a business decision. It sounds like correct booklet.

1370
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: Shoe Ba says, no, but I feel like a big

1371
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: woman broke his heart.

1372
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 4: Ah.

1373
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: Joe Spacey says this might be like what rappers used

1374
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: to say, he doesn't hate all of them, but just

1375
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: those over there. Yeah, it did feel like that. The

1376
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: interview felt like when Snoop Dogg used to be like, Nah,

1377
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about hoes and bitches, not women. It's like, mmm, really, bro,

1378
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: have you thought about that sentence?

1379
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

1380
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: Like, would you take that as a racist person telling

1381
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: you I'm only talking about certain types of Niggers but

1382
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 2: not black people? You would not accept that as a reasoning. Uh.

1383
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: Laketta says, I personally feel uncomfortable with the language he uses.

1384
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: Weren'tferring to specific women or types of women. Yeah, and

1385
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: then that's also the genre because we read other books

1386
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 2: and that is the genre.

1387
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 4: That's the whole genre. Like yeah, and some people need

1388
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 4: to come to realization that that's that the genre and

1389
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 4: that's so cay.

1390
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1391
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1392
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: There were people that were like, you know, I didn't

1393
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: want to read this book specifically because I don't like

1394
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: this genre. And I understood that, you know. And there's

1395
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: also people that are gonna only have issues because he

1396
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: has a male pen name that if he like I said,

1397
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: if he were to say his name, like, he has

1398
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: a writing partner in DA something, and I guarantee you

1399
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: don't see as much with her like because people think,

1400
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 2: well she's a woman. It's it's different, you know. Anyway,

1401
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: we had a couple of comments on the medium talk

1402
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: as well. Uh Celesti Sita Street says a great interview,

1403
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: very interesting, and Ev says, this is such a great interview.

1404
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it was two hours because it's

1405
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: zoomed by zoom by me looking forward to the next

1406
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: book review. Thanks Ev. Yeah, I did think it was

1407
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: a good interview, mostly because I was it was he

1408
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: was very different than I thought it would be, Like

1409
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: it was almost put me off guard because I spent

1410
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: and he was very like long winded and very adept

1411
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 2: at kind of like you know, kind of telling stories

1412
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,879
Speaker 2: and providing examples that he knew the history of the genre.

1413
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: It just came out like a businessman in a way

1414
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: to which you know, I don't know. I still think

1415
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: about how do I feel about this because black people

1416
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: and mostly black women are the people that I've lifted

1417
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: this genre up and give him money. Correct, So it's

1418
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: harder than turn around and be like yeah, like it's

1419
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: not like he's taking advantage of like people buy the

1420
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: books and read they do want to read them, and

1421
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: he only makes the money if you read it like that.

1422
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Like he he even said like I didn't know that

1423
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: business model. Like it was a very informative interview and

1424
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: he sounds like a very intelligent dude compared to what

1425
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: you what I was expecting when I heard him.

1426
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 4: So yes, it's one of those days back down to

1427
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: you know, you hate to be all business technique, you know,

1428
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,520
Speaker 4: technical and shit, it's the market, like the market dictates

1429
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 4: that that's what they wanted.

1430
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,480
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, And I mean yeah, he just felt calculating

1431
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: in a way you know that I don't know that

1432
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: I expected when I was talking to him, and it

1433
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: was kind of threw me off a bit, but it

1434
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: made him pretty intriguing in a pretty good interview because

1435
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: he wasn't just saying some stupid shit every two minutes

1436
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: or whatever, like you know, go ahead.

1437
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I understand that when it comes to black shit,

1438
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: black people are very sensitive about this, But like we

1439
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 4: said before, white people write about all types of shit

1440
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 4: and they sell like Gangbusters, the Vampire Frankenstein, having sex

1441
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: with women, all types of shit like that, Like you know,

1442
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 4: they have their ratchet reading and all that type of shit.

1443
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: But it's white people shit, So no niggas give a

1444
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 4: fuck about it. So I feel like if the market

1445
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 4: can dictate that for them and people purchase it, Like

1446
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 4: in my mind, I don't see the Yeah, I don't

1447
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 4: not like people are going getting blindly and go, oh,

1448
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 4: what the fuck is this? No, he's telling you, this

1449
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: is what you're getting. Nobody's being fooled, nobody's being Troy

1450
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 4: gotcha is No, this is what you want, This is

1451
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 4: what I'm giving you.

1452
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that white people aren't necessarily the

1453
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: best people to to emulate when it comes to selling shit,

1454
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: but there's definitely a double standard on black shit. That

1455
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: was kind of what we talked about a lot was

1456
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: just there is a double standard that if you do

1457
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: some black shit, it's representative of everybody. And while people

1458
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: pretend that you don't need to be positive and it

1459
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: doesn't need to have a message, they say that, but

1460
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: then they don't act like that. When you write something

1461
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: that's black, they always add an extra level of why

1462
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 2: come insecure and using condoms, as opposed to just if

1463
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: it was some white show, we would just watch it,

1464
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: we wouldn't talk about the condoms because we wouldn't feel

1465
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: this extra pressure of why isn't your show telling a

1466
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: good message to your grown ass audience who already knows

1467
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: about fucking STDs. Why isn't it educating them as well?

1468
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: Why it can't just be entertaining. So it is that

1469
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: double standard that exists. But even with all that, you know,

1470
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: he's chosen a path. Like I said, the only part

1471
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: that really surprised me was him feeling uncomfortable with the criticisms,

1472
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: because I thought that when I talked to him he

1473
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: would be like, oh, no, I understand what I'm doing

1474
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 2: and I'm making money, so I don't give a fuck,

1475
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 2: you know, That's what I thought he's going to basically

1476
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: be like, like, these motherfuckers say they don't want this,

1477
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: but then why the fuck am my rich? You know,

1478
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: Like I thought he was gonna basically that was gonna

1479
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: be his argument, but like.

1480
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: He wasn't prepared, like I put it out there and

1481
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 4: just not know what to expect it.

1482
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: They be like, oh shit, yeah. And maybe it's because

1483
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: he had studied the genre and he thought, well, these

1484
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: other people don't receive this. But I mean, that's why

1485
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: all y'all nigga's using pen names, because what y'all doing

1486
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: is something that you really don't want to attach to

1487
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: your government name because it's not gonna be received as

1488
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: professional or good in a lot of cases, even if

1489
01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: you did make money. You know. Anyway, you got one

1490
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: more episode. It was Darryl and Rick stuck in the

1491
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: rut our recap of Walking Dead, and the comments were

1492
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: from the Truth eighty two, who says great recap is

1493
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: always the whole The whole whole scene was so frustrating.

1494
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: That's all I got up the good work. Lol. Oh

1495
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: and I thought the Dead Walkers Maggie came across on

1496
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: her way to Alexander were a result of Micheon's late

1497
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: night target practicing. Oh maybe that, Yeah, it could have

1498
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: been that. I don't know what that hatchet got there for,

1499
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: but could have been that.

1500
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 4: What do you think could have been that? Or I

1501
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 4: I think, in my opinion because maybe just me, they

1502
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: purposely did it during the daytime. I really do think

1503
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 4: that was the Saviors going through. Do you remember how

1504
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 4: the Saviors walked up at the camp and they was

1505
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 4: telling them, oh, we found out who uh the ocean

1506
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 4: side was fucking people up. I think that Maggie had

1507
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 4: probably just missed them Saviors walking through the camp.

1508
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Eve, he says, I honestly don't know how Rick

1509
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: isn't going to get eating. I really don't want such

1510
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: an iconic character to go out that way. He deserves

1511
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: to go in Michean's loving arms. But unless they pull

1512
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: a Glenn under the garbage camp move, I don't see

1513
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: how he is a walker food. Yes, it's interesting because

1514
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 2: I was just the fire starter in tone with saying

1515
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: the exact obviously like he better get eaten. So I

1516
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: don't really feel strongly about it either way, to be honest,

1517
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: like whether he gets eating or not, it's kind of

1518
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: like whatever, because I mean, he gonna die or not

1519
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: die like I kind of hope they actually leave room

1520
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: for him to be alive and come back to the

1521
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: show later, because I honestly don't want to show that

1522
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: like this, to just lose such a major character in

1523
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: this kind of way, and especially since we know the

1524
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: outside story, which is that he just wants off of

1525
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: the show because he's tired of doing it, you know,

1526
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: So that kind of sucks. Yeah, it just kind of

1527
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: sucks that real life gets in the way because in

1528
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: the comic book, obviously we would never have to worry

1529
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: about that. Should they kiss kill Nighan? Yes, he needs

1530
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: to die, No, he needs to live.

1531
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: Care I guess leep him going either way, but truthfully, yeah,

1532
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 4: you need to go.

1533
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: Seventy four percent of the audience agrees with you. Twenty

1534
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: five percent says he needs to live. So I don't

1535
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: know if they just attracted Jeffery Deane Morgan and want

1536
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: him Acheane to swirl it up or what, But it

1537
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: sounds like some of y'all are not in the camp

1538
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: of U Niga needs to go. All right, let's get

1539
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: to our emails. And I also pulled up the phone line.

1540
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: I just realized I hadn't checked the actual messages. Okay,

1541
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: so my bad everyone, and uh, I also have to

1542
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: wait for the uh Gmail low real quick?

1543
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 4: Al right, everything's running slow.

1544
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the internet who was slow to

1545
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: day in here? All right, let me go to calls

1546
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: and see if we missed anything for the messages. Oh,

1547
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 2: you have to click on each one. Shout out to

1548
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: shout out to Skype. And they don't want to make

1549
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: it too easy on the brother Mike fucking around, think

1550
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 2: on somebody, you know, make it a little too easy.

1551
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: I might just look this up on my phone, right,

1552
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: is it worth it? Yeah?

1553
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 4: Make this easier?

1554
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, all right, it looks like I can

1555
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: do it on my phone. It's a little easier till

1556
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: his computer loads, all right? So uh, they say Erica right,

1557
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 2: saying I feel like a kid on Christmas. I finally

1558
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: took the time to add the premium shows on Apple Podcasts.

1559
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: I've been a premium for a while, but still went

1560
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: through the website to listen to Balls the Sports for

1561
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: movie reviews, which suck because if my browser closed or refreshed,

1562
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: I'd have to figure out where I left off to

1563
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 2: get back into the show, especially on the pregame of

1564
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: balls D. But that's how much I love y'all. I

1565
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 2: was playing for premium and hardly ever listening to shows.

1566
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for all your heart work. Yeah listen,

1567
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you now. If you are premium, log into

1568
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: the website the blackoutips dot com, go to our go

1569
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: to the premium page the blackoutips dot com slash premium,

1570
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: scroll to the bottom. The RSS feed instructions. The password

1571
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: and the user name is all right there in blue

1572
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: at the bottom. It's an easy way to uh sign

1573
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: up and to to get it on your phone. The

1574
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: only the only time you have to worry about changing

1575
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: something is when I change the password on the website,

1576
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: which I do, you know, ay few months to keep

1577
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: it ony this because you know, don't want no freeloaders.

1578
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: And then you just change the password and you keep

1579
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: it going. It's that simple, uh. And there's pictures and

1580
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: frame by frame steps and everything. And then if you

1581
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: if that fails and you still have an issue, you

1582
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: can email me the black out Tips at gmail dot com.

1583
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: We will walk you through it so.

1584
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 4: You can get like the main feet for everything, and

1585
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 4: then you get individual shows too.

1586
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got it. On my phone as well,

1587
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 2: so vandalized. This is like a girl Keanuh says, Hey,

1588
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: I know I'm late, but I wanted to say something

1589
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: super quick. White folks love history without cultural context. I

1590
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: was at a conference in Annapolis two weeks ago. Annapolis

1591
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: has a lot of history because it's the oldest city

1592
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: in the state of Maryland. It was also one of

1593
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 2: the most used posts during slavery ports during slavery AnyWho.

1594
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: The hotel was hosting this conference had a display called

1595
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: fourteen Presidents before Washington that showcased all the presidents of

1596
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: the Continental Congress before George Washington. All the white folks

1597
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: who walked up were walked by with gushing over it.

1598
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I walked by and said, oh, fourteen Ow niggas who

1599
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 2: thought black folks were subhuman, come out. History is not

1600
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: the same for black and brown folks. Love y'all. That's

1601
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: the truth. Like if you people like that joke that

1602
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: Chappelle made was so good in that stand up where

1603
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 2: he said, I money look like baseball cards with slave

1604
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: owners on them alone, that's the true. She also wrote

1605
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: in about I Don't Know about Birth and No Babies,

1606
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: episode seventeen seventy four, One thing the article Rod read

1607
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: about lower pregnancy rates didn't touch on that I'm curious

1608
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: about is how environmental racism affects women in urban environments

1609
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: getting pregnant, especially Black women. I recently found out that

1610
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: I have fibroys, and it really complicates my chances of

1611
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: getting pregnant. I went on Twitter to ask a question

1612
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: that so many women who I know and didn't know commented.

1613
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: Fibroys have a high prevalence among Black women. We see

1614
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 2: higher occurrences of shit like asthma and respiratory issues in

1615
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: lead poison and urban areas than where Black folks are.

1616
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: I wonder what the full extent of damage for folks

1617
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,480
Speaker 2: in Flint will be. Will those women's fertility be impacted

1618
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: just a thought or question rather love y'all.

1619
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 4: Yes, it will be. And they have done studies, like

1620
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: back in the sixties and seventies, they did a study

1621
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: that talked about African American women in their birth rate

1622
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 4: and how their birth rate was lower and how African

1623
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 4: American women had a higher percentage of losing their children.

1624
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 4: Black women lose their children at a higher percentage than

1625
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: any of the group. Like we have more steel births

1626
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 4: and things like that, but that women have a higher

1627
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 4: percentage of fibroids than any other group of like tumors

1628
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 4: and things like that. And I'm pretty sure because it's us,

1629
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 4: you know, somebody would need to invest into doing studies

1630
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 4: and statistics to really get the numbers that you're talking about.

1631
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 4: But yes, environment does matter because if you really think

1632
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 4: about it, anytime they want on a waste plant, where

1633
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 4: does it go near us? Anytime they won't landfills? What

1634
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: does it go near us? Airports? Right? Airports near us?

1635
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 4: Like like like they purposely put the shit near us

1636
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 4: because the white folks have a fit and they protest

1637
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 4: and go to the town hall meetings and say how

1638
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 4: dare you and and and shit like that.

1639
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, put a Walmart by a lot of white

1640
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: people's neighborhoods, Oh, they will have.

1641
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: A fucking fit. You can't even put a goddamn bus

1642
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: stop in certain neighborhood.

1643
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: You gotta put one of those fucking fancy artisanal walmarts

1644
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: in white people's neighborhoods.

1645
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 4: It's crazy, right because it was like a Walmart non Walmart.

1646
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a look like a farm from a distance,

1647
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: and so shiit like what happened to us.

1648
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: I was like, that's we were going. We were going

1649
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 4: somewhere down in South Carolina, like that's Walmart.

1650
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: That was like yeah, it was like like the Land

1651
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 2: of Toys, right there.

1652
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 4: Was like no, there was like it had to fit

1653
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 4: the the infrastructure of what was already there. We couldn't

1654
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: have a fucking blue box. So we had to put

1655
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 4: these bricks and shit on it because the buildings are

1656
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 4: already here. The ship had to match the shopping center.

1657
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that could be it. Man. I also think,

1658
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: you know, economically have issues. There's a lot, there's a lot,

1659
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts to the pregnancy discussion, especially

1660
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: once you add racing. Let me go to the next segment,

1661
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,480
Speaker 2: all right, And also I did pull up some voicemails.

1662
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can get these to work.

1663
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 2: I can't tell which one came first. Okay, let's see.

1664
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: Let me think. So it looks like maybe the top

1665
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: one comes first. I don't know. We'll find out together, guys,

1666
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: sail Oh that was it only one second? Oh okay,

1667
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: it must have been a button down. Let me take

1668
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: this other one man, this other voicemail.

1669
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 9: Good morning, and I'm hoping I reached the correct number

1670
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 9: as a British lady with an accident.

1671
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to.

1672
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 9: Call Rod and Karen h two of my favorite podcasters.

1673
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 9: I'm currently catching up on some of your podcasts and

1674
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 9: I'm on that podcast right now where Roger you spoke

1675
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 9: about flying first class and he said that's the way

1676
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 9: to go, and that's the only way that you would

1677
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 9: want to fly again. I'm getting ready to take a

1678
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,919
Speaker 9: fight and be ready to go to Parkville, Tennessee myself

1679
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 9: and I just upgraded to first class. It's going to

1680
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 9: be my very first time. I'm also a guy of

1681
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 9: larger care character and I just want to know what

1682
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 9: are some of the pros applying first class versus.

1683
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Flying economy class.

1684
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,480
Speaker 9: Again, Karen, I think for us in our community.

1685
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 4: And.

1686
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope, I hope this is way too late,

1687
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: but hopefully you are experienced this. But for me personally,

1688
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: man one, the size of the seats, like you know, uh,

1689
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 2: there's only two seats in the hour as opposed to three,

1690
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: which is big, and because even when they give me

1691
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: an hour seat, I'm just I'm also just barely too

1692
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: fucking tall, which which sucks because like I could if

1693
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: with Karen beside me, I put the arm rest up.

1694
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 2: I can make a regular ass seat work if we

1695
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: sit together. But it's the fact that I'm just I'm like,

1696
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm only six feet, Like, it's not like I'm seven

1697
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: feet Its fucking my knees jamm into the back seat.

1698
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: If the person puts that shit feetback their seatback even

1699
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: an inch, it's in my knee and so then they'll

1700
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: give me an hour seat. But then I only get

1701
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: to put that one leg out there, and then people

1702
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: are bumping that leg and the stewardess or steward or

1703
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: what do you call it, flight attendants. The flight attendants

1704
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: are like pumping it to me and shit and it's

1705
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: kind of claustrophobic, e in the back whatever. But that

1706
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: that part isn't you know, that's part isn't neither here,

1707
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 2: nor that the benefits that I've experienced so far. They

1708
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 2: have like first class like as a line for the TSA,

1709
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 2: which is I don't know why, but first class people

1710
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: get a shorter line. They have We have TSA pre

1711
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 2: check now, but before we even had that, they still

1712
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: had this line, this shorter line. You go on the

1713
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: flight first and you get off first, that is that

1714
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 2: improves just the idea of a flight by like because

1715
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: piling up behind everyone putting their bags in and shit

1716
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: is that is an ordeal in itself, right.

1717
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1718
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: They serve you drinks, they serve your food. Depending on

1719
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: the length of time that you're in the air, you

1720
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 2: get these like fucking cool snacks and shit. Uh there's

1721
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,440
Speaker 2: always some ship that it's like they went to marshals

1722
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: because the snacks don't make no sense, like barbecue port rhyme,

1723
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: And I was like, I've.

1724
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 4: Never seen this in no store, no fucking where. Who

1725
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 4: is this maker?

1726
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: Korean barbecue port jerky? That was literally something we had. Yeah,

1727
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: that was delicious Mustache cookies. Honestly, I'm not making these up.

1728
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 4: These are real names.

1729
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the why?

1730
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Who?

1731
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Where do you bother Where did you buy ass? Like

1732
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 2: what makes a cookie taste better because it's in the

1733
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: shape of fucking mustache And they'll give you like a

1734
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: meal you know. Uh yeah, and you get like these

1735
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: drinks and ship they're constantly refilling your drinks and all

1736
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: that ship you're close to the bathroom, So those would

1737
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: be the main things. I don't feel like it's some

1738
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: like it has to be things.

1739
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 10: No.

1740
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 4: And the thing is because you get off first, you

1741
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 4: get your bags first.

1742
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they give you a towel thing to like

1743
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: a blanket.

1744
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah there, I'm always cold. I wrap up in the towel.

1745
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 2: They give you coat check like, I'll come on there

1746
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: with my jacket. They'll be like, sir, man, hang up

1747
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 2: your jacket.

1748
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 4: I was like that thing me out at first.

1749
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: I was like what the first time I was in

1750
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: first class and they did that, I I flicked. I

1751
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: freaked out the whole flight because I wasn't prepared for that.

1752
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: And my wallet was in my jacket and I was like, oh,

1753
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: these niggas, I'll steal my wallet because that's I'm not

1754
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: used to whatever rich people do. This is not I'm

1755
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: not rich. So I was like, you know, I'm sure

1756
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: some rich persons would be like, I don't like wallet,

1757
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: What would they do with that? They would know what

1758
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: to spend all that money. I was like, I need

1759
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: that twenty dollars, you know, so uh that you know,

1760
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: those are the main perks I think of it. There's

1761
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: some weird downsides too. If you're black at first class,

1762
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 2: there are people that look at you weird and fucking

1763
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: yes they do. You know, there's a you know, we

1764
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: get up to do priority boarding, and they had that

1765
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: moment where they're like, I don't know if you're supposed

1766
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 2: to be in this line type of thing, but you know,

1767
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: we haven't had like a really bad experience with that yet.

1768
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: I actually I almost did the opposite. There was this

1769
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: lady that sat Karen went to do something and then

1770
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: she set her bag in front of Kar and see

1771
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: and she had asked me. I said, man, my wife's

1772
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: gonna be sitting there, and I had my headphones in,

1773
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 2: and then she said something like, I don't know, it's fine,

1774
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, bitch, what do you mean it's

1775
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's not fine. Not There's no other

1776
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: side to this where it's like, oh no, no, no,

1777
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 2: I've decided that your wife doesn't need to sit him.

1778
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 4: You know.

1779
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 2: The whole time was like, okay, but when my wife

1780
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: gets here, you're gonna have to move this shit. So

1781
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 2: I mean, cool if you want, because she just wanted

1782
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: to put her bag there and she didn't want to

1783
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: sit there as her thing, so she was thinking, well,

1784
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not actually taking this seat, but I'm like, I

1785
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,839
Speaker 2: didn't say, I'm using this seat to hold my jacket.

1786
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: I said, my fucking wife's coming. So then when Karen came,

1787
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: you know, Karen's all super nice and shit, so it's easily,

1788
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: you know. The woman was like, oh, I'm sorry. I

1789
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: didn't know Karen's like, I didn't know Da da da.

1790
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: And there was like seven of them or five of

1791
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: them or something. So when we got up the due

1792
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: priority boarding for the first class people or whatever, they

1793
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: got up and almost I didn't because I my my business.

1794
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck is going on. I

1795
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 2: don't assume anything. But I almost told her, like, ma'am, no,

1796
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 2: it's for first class. But then they got up and

1797
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:02,799
Speaker 2: it was like all of them went in first class

1798
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 2: or somewhere in that area anyway, Like maybe because they

1799
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: were old, she was with her grandparents, maybe they got

1800
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 2: on first or something. I don't know, but they all

1801
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 2: got to go on first and together. But it was

1802
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: just funny because I almost had a second and I

1803
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: laughed to myself. I didn't say anything. It just laughed

1804
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: to myself at the idea of me the person that

1805
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 2: everybody else was looking at, like I know, these niggas

1806
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: are the first class being the one that's like, excuse me,

1807
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 2: white people. I don't think you guys are you don't

1808
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: understand this is for first class, so white people please

1809
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: sit back down. It just would have been funny. Uh So,

1810
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 2: hope we asked your questions. Let me see, did I

1811
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 2: leave anything out of the first class thinking? All right,

1812
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 2: let me see. I think we have another voicemail. This

1813
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: is from Tuesday. Let's see what this one says.

1814
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 4: Hey, Rod, this is three castle, Like, oh, we already talked,

1815
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 4: so that was call.

1816
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 2: There you go. I'm sure we've already h shared that information.

1817
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Oh let's see Sunday we got two calls. All right,

1818
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: it's weird going back this far, Like what is this?

1819
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 2: So the devil is patience probably probably something really wrong

1820
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: out breath.

1821
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 4: Devil's trying somebody patience today. They probably don't know that

1822
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 4: divorce picked up.

1823
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know they was having the time. But then

1824
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: they called again a minute later, So let's see.

1825
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 4: I think I think the white woman throws everybody off.

1826
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, now, so basically trying to go premium, trying.

1827
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 4: Having some technical difficulties.

1828
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 11: So yeah, that's my wingy thing, five star factor.

1829
01:33:58,800 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: So much.

1830
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 4: I'll get it.

1831
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Better.

1832
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 12: I'll get it together.

1833
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess they're having issues going from you. Hopefully

1834
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 2: they have email.

1835
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 4: I said, email us baby at the blackmail dot com.

1836
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: I will walk you through and help you.

1837
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 4: Baby, Honey. We don't want the devil trying you today. Yeah, baby,

1838
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 4: you obeyed. We got to fix this problem.

1839
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully. I've already talked to that person because I know

1840
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: there was a person that was having issues and we

1841
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 2: figured it out over direct message.

1842
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 4: In the emails, I sound like me, you having problem.

1843
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: I don't want nobody out here having no problems. So

1844
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to happen.

1845
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do it. Come on, now, come on.

1846
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 2: Computer, all right, I think everything else. We've already done

1847
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 2: a feedback show on the rest of these messages. So

1848
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 2: that was an interesting truck.

1849
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 4: Right if I said, if it allowed you to delete them?

1850
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Shit? All right, Now back to these emails. Dereka says, hey, y'all,

1851
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: Episode seventeen seventy six, Biggest at Pride. I had to

1852
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: comment on the Biggest at Pride. Yeah, the pri parade,

1853
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: and they had the people are religious ri as freedom

1854
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 2: to harass these gays and call them slurs. I went

1855
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 2: to the Pride parade and post event in Atlanta with

1856
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 2: my God says a couple of weeks ago. I've been

1857
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: to other small social and clubs with her, but it

1858
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: was my first time attending prize, so I made sure

1859
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 2: to do some research on ally etiquette, and it's such

1860
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 2: a big event. I had a ball and it was

1861
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 2: quite beautiful. It was great to be surrounded by people

1862
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 2: happily and freely celebrating themselves. But y'all, the anti LGBTQ

1863
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 2: plus folks out there just disgusted me. There was nothing

1864
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 2: peaceful about their signs and presence. Seeing them even shook

1865
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 2: me up. So I can only imagine how to affects

1866
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 2: that true target's daily It breaks my heart for the

1867
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 2: community to have to deal with those with trash ass

1868
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: people who choose to go out of their way and

1869
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 2: insert Hey, I appreciate y'all covering LGBTQ plus topics. Long

1870
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 2: live the blackout tips, Thank you, thank you, and yeah,

1871
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: that's trash that sucks, Steve Wright saying the white guy

1872
01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: who listens, thank you, oh man. First of all, thank

1873
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: you for the countless hours of entertainment and education. I'm

1874
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 2: in my car a lot and you definitely help pass

1875
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: the time. A coworker introduced me to your show a

1876
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: few months ago, and it's everything he said. It was

1877
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 2: shout out the co.

1878
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Worker, shout out the coworkers, making the day go by faster, each.

1879
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 2: One teach one. You know, hey, listen, let me tell

1880
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,799
Speaker 2: you something. There is nothing for me personally. There's nothing

1881
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 2: more intimate you can share with a coworker. Then this

1882
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 2: is my podcast I listen to.

1883
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, because most of the time you and when you

1884
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: tell somebody that this is one of the things. But

1885
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 4: it's a true, true coworker friendship because we're like, are

1886
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 4: you gonna be cool with this or you gonna be

1887
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 4: a problem?

1888
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, that might be more intimate than sex. It's

1889
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 2: telling them this is my favorite podcast that I listen

1890
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: to while I'm over at my desk, and you hear

1891
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 2: me laughing. This is it. So watch ton, Okay, say

1892
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: nothing bad about my show, right, my shit. Your respective

1893
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 2: and knowledge on the topics you cover, in the fact

1894
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 2: that you don't hold anything back when you cover them

1895
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 2: is fantastic. You both get give me several talking points

1896
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: to draw on when speaking with people on a lot

1897
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 2: of issues. Keep doing what you do is great, and

1898
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: yes I'm gonna leave foster I of you on items.

1899
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve Yay, appreciate that, John Right saying Epitote

1900
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: seventeen seventy nine thoughts. I see both sides of what

1901
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Rick and Macheon are trying to do, as well as

1902
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 2: Maggie and those who aren't on means staying alive. As

1903
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: for me, I see the parallels the culture wars as

1904
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 2: far as religious extremists and vangelicals and Islamic folks who

1905
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: wage violence. These Christians that allive with Trump and want

1906
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 2: to eliminate those of us who aren't like them or

1907
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,959
Speaker 2: accept their way of life are similar to the Saviors,

1908
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: just like ice Is and al Kaeda already been lining

1909
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 2: in our Baghdati. Even after they died. They still killing folks,

1910
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 2: whether they are soldiers or civilians. It's the same as

1911
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 2: what Hilltop and Ultra Side are feeling and doing. There's

1912
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: never enough bodies to drop for people to satisfide, to

1913
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 2: feel satisfied and feel safe. They want all them dead,

1914
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: even people who didn't participate in the fighting. Martyr are

1915
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 2: sitting in jail. The fight is what they all believe.

1916
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 2: Even rather than accepting the enough is enough and live

1917
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 2: it is ultimately all that matters. What happens once Rick

1918
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: is gone is as much a factor for all them

1919
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: Alexandria Hilltop Ultra Side in the Kingdom as real life

1920
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: is for us. That's my observation and thoughts on the season.

1921
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: To walk in there, you know, are amazing is always

1922
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: and enjoy the recapts and enjoy the usual TBGWT episodes.

1923
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1924
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's deep and I kind of agree, So thank you.

1925
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 2: That's all that's all I got for you. I agree

1926
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 2: totally with what you just said. And it is a

1927
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: philosophical debate that we still have to this day. It's

1928
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: such a huge I don't know, people get mad, but

1929
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 2: it's such a human show. The rut of the conversation

1930
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 2: and the cyclical nature of it is life. That's life.

1931
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Every day we are deciding what is a retribution versus revenge?

1932
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: What is what is going to keep us able to

1933
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: live in a free society versus what is a stuffing

1934
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: down people's free speech? And here's a society that you're

1935
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: remaking from ground one. I think it's relevant. Monica Wright saying, Hi,

1936
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: roder Camp, I've been selfishly enjoying your shows for too

1937
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 2: long without feedback, So here I am. Firstly, I'm so

1938
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 2: happy and proud for all that you're accomplishing with the podcast,

1939
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 2: from your first live show to a symposium in California.

1940
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: I love seeing your dedication take you to new heights.

1941
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you the Doctor, Beamy and Sarah for

1942
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: taking it for letting us come out and hang out.

1943
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 2: My love for you is so deep. And I reluctantly

1944
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 2: resume watching the new season of The Walking Dead because

1945
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to fully immerse myself in the recaps. Heck,

1946
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: you guys are the reason I started watching in season six.

1947
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 2: I've been bored by the show recently, and if not

1948
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 2: for the Wednesday recaps, I'll not be watching at all.

1949
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 2: All that being said, I have a funny story. In

1950
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: the last few recaps. Karen mintioned more than once how

1951
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 2: bad an I did was to have Gabriel be an

1952
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 2: overnight watch with his one working eye, and I remember

1953
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: feeling a little uncomfortable saying my two woke ass was like,

1954
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,759
Speaker 2: disabled people can do just as much as everybody people.

1955
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind of guessing. Cut to Halloween afternoon,

1956
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm dressed as Quasi the pirate cat from Disney Junior

1957
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: show Octonots, assigned to me by my four year old

1958
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: I've made my own costume, complete with an eye patch. Guys,

1959
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 2: I gained so much more understanding the vision impairment than

1960
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: I ever knew. I had a pretty great vision, and

1961
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 2: having one eye cover completely fucked up my depth perception

1962
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 2: and threw me off a ton he I felt like

1963
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 2: such a maroon and I immediately thought of Gabriel.

1964
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 4: Lol.

1965
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: That could not be easy. I was so disoriented I

1966
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 2: started talking louder as if my hearing was affected too.

1967
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 2: It was such a silly reaction. Anyway, Perhaps you were

1968
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 2: right and I was wrong. Also, I need to learn

1969
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: from actual people with visual impairment and not just assume.

1970
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: My moral of the story is avoid eye patches at

1971
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,799
Speaker 2: costules because it makes walking at twilight pretty freaking scary.

1972
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 2: My much smarter friends suggested just keeping the patch above

1973
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 2: my eye. Yeah, that worked out better anyway. Stays for

1974
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 2: all the thought for deep conversation as well as silly

1975
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 2: games of puns, which I later monica, thank you.

1976
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's one of the things where no, I

1977
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 4: wasn't trying to criticize people with uh disabilities or anything

1978
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 4: like that. It's just the fact that you need full sight,

1979
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 4: like for what he was actually watching, and you need

1980
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 4: to be able to look in both directions.

1981
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, to me, I mean, look, I don't

1982
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on this, but to me, the

1983
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 2: ableism of something like that would be like, he can't

1984
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 2: contribute to our community he only has one eye or

1985
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't know, don't give him a

1986
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: gun or something like that. Like I it's not like

1987
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 2: that's like saying that if someone were to not be

1988
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 2: able to to use their legs and there and your

1989
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 2: your your your camp or whatever is not it's not

1990
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: uh friendly for it's it's not it's not whatever what

1991
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 2: do you call it when you pass the local inspections.

1992
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 2: It's not codd if you know what I'm saying. It's

1993
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: not eighty H compliant. It's not eighty h compliant. So

1994
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: like the tower for the lookout thing, y'all don't have

1995
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: an elevator or something. You gotta get on the ladder

1996
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 2: and climb up there. To me, it is not able

1997
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 2: us to be like, well, we can't have this dude

1998
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: do look out because he can't use his legs to

1999
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 2: get up the tower, so we can't. He won't be

2000
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 2: able to do lookout physically, so we'll just assign him

2001
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: that job anyway, cause fuck it, you know, that would

2002
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: make us ablest to not give him the job. Like

2003
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 2: if you can't make the job work for the person

2004
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: and you can't and you don't have the means, to me,

2005
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 2: that's that's not it. To me, ableism is like you

2006
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 2: can't do anything, or you can't participate, or we're not

2007
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 2: gonna do anything to make it so you could do

2008
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 2: this job. And I don't think Gabe being lookout at

2009
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: night with one eye is necessarily the heel I would

2010
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: down in the zombie apocalypse. If somebody was like, you know,

2011
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 2: is this kind of able ass, I'd be like, I

2012
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: don't know, but I know that y'all niggas want to

2013
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: be alive in the morning, and gave ain't exactly the dude.

2014
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 2: You know. Also, he was out there getting his dick suck,

2015
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: which is much more of a problem for me, to

2016
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 2: be fair, not less likely to attention. To be fair,

2017
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 2: I have much less of a problem with his one eye, as.

2018
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 4: I mean, he was using the one eye, but not

2019
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 4: but not the one to see it, right.

2020
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't like that ship. No, no, no hanky Peggy

2021
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 2: on the clock, Bro, you're supposed to be trying to

2022
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 2: keep me alive.

2023
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 4: Won't sleep right, somebody come on the wrong side, you

2024
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 4: won't definitely won't see him then, because both eyes is closed.

2025
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: Tristan rights in high Rod and Karen The Walking Dead.

2026
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: There were a couple of funny things with this p

2027
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 2: the scene where Darryl and Rick fall into a pit

2028
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 2: and Rick insinuates that as part of the trap, and

2029
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 2: Daryl's supposed to have dug a giant hole that offered

2030
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: you a ride. They knew exactly where you would want

2031
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: to get off the bike, start a fight, ed just

2032
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: to trap you, okay, man. The other thing, yeah, I

2033
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 2: lag to that too, But then I was also like, well,

2034
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 2: from Rick's perspective, Darryl also just told him the relay

2035
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 2: call didn't get that right. Maggie was on our way

2036
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 2: to out. This is not a trap either, right, He's like,

2037
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: did you playing this shit too? Like he would have

2038
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 2: been super bad. That's funny. He would have believed anything

2039
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 2: they're talking about something. Come on, man, like nigga, ain't

2040
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: no come on man, your biit gets though. The other

2041
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 2: thing is with Nigga and Michelle. In the last scene,

2042
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Micheon says, eat Niggan. I was looking down at my

2043
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 2: phone and I heard eat Nigga. I wish Michean would

2044
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 2: have could could be that real? She says it twice

2045
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 2: in that scene. Shit was funny. Also, I noticed the

2046
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 2: type of apples Macheane was feeding Judith Hint the best

2047
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 2: con I didn't notice. I don'tfully they weren't red delicious.

2048
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 2: The qualmmelesp was really very interesting. One thing that stuck

2049
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 2: out to me was a shock that people's reaction to

2050
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 2: book titles and covers. When you know you are doing

2051
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 2: something for shock value, how can you be surprised some

2052
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 2: people think you have a problem with the community. Yes, yes, yes,

2053
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: Tristan with crack Hole Dreams and this pitch got roaches

2054
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 2: at her crib. Someone seeing those titles going to think

2055
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 2: negatively about black women. When you made that video eating

2056
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 2: that kit cat, people would be mad. It wasn't a shock,

2057
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 2: was it. Nope. Not saying that people should make the

2058
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 2: comments that they do. But I think at this point

2059
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 2: we all would be understanding enough about human nature on

2060
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 2: the Internet to know people are going to react again.

2061
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people should charge him with think

2062
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 2: hurting the black community because he writes fictional hoodbooks, but

2063
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 2: it's surprising he didn't see that coming. That was the

2064
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 2: part for me too, Like the whole interview kind of

2065
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: starts there, and I'm like, so wait, what Like I mean,

2066
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 2: that's kind of like obvious. So okay, get me to

2067
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 2: this place where you cause you know, the way I

2068
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 2: do interviews. I don't jump in people's shit. I've never

2069
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 2: yelled at so I try not to yell at people

2070
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. The only time I've ever had

2071
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 2: like contingents interviews is when like a troll called our

2072
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 2: show or something. I've never like had an interview. Even

2073
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,440
Speaker 2: when I talked to shah Bei, somebody I disagree with vehemently,

2074
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna keep it, you know, respectful, as long

2075
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: as they're respectful towards me. Correct. But I was surprised

2076
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 2: that he seem to be that intelligent but not I

2077
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 2: don't know, fully kind of embracing the fact that I'm

2078
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 2: gonna get feedback like.

2079
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 4: This to an extent I could see because people are

2080
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 4: so self absorbed, which means a lot of times you

2081
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 4: can't see shit till it happens to you, like like

2082
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people do like that. People

2083
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 4: can tell you, but it's like, oh, this is happening

2084
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 4: to me, and then your eyes were begin to open

2085
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 4: up to the shit, you know, because a lot of

2086
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 4: times you think, well, that's other people's shit, but not me.

2087
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, also, I mean, he is putting himself out there,

2088
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: at least in this persona right. He's got Twitter, he's

2089
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: got Facebook, he's he's he reached out to us for interviews.

2090
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 2: He gave away free copies to our fans, like he's

2091
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: I thought, he's courting the attention, so he knows not

2092
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: all the attention will be good because what he's doing

2093
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 2: is controversial and get right, right, He didn't seem to

2094
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: expect that people that some people would be like, I

2095
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 2: doubt your good intentions or whatever you know. And at

2096
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: the end, I think there was a question that someone

2097
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: wrote and they said, what is the question you're trying

2098
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 2: to answer what you're writing, which you know, something they

2099
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: asked for a lot of writers is kind of a

2100
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 2: deep question. And he didn't have an answer really, and

2101
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: I mean jokingly said it, but I meant it. I

2102
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 2: was like trying to answer these bills basically, like come on.

2103
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,839
Speaker 2: From the two hours we spent together, the main impression

2104
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm leaving with is that this was a way to

2105
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: make money. You lost your job, you said, I'm gonna

2106
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: start just try to do this writing thing. It enabled

2107
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 2: you to work for yourself and take care of your

2108
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 2: bills and stuff and make more money than you've ever made.

2109
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 2: And if the cost of that is some people being

2110
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 2: upset about your book titles, he seemed, while uneasy about it,

2111
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 2: still comfortable enough to be like, I'm gonna keep this check.

2112
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: And so that was my like my like I joked

2113
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: about it kind of, but I was like, yeah, for

2114
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 2: the bag, for the check, Like that's kind of the

2115
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 2: whole point.

2116
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 4: Everybody talk about that, but that's real.

2117
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and for me personally, it's just hard

2118
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 2: to really put a lot of stuff in the scope

2119
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 2: because this is a world where we exist. Charlemagne exists, correct,

2120
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 2: Joe Budden exists. They are making much more money in us,

2121
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: much more famous than us, and will be wait, they

2122
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: will die, their children's children will be rich or whatever.

2123
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,480
Speaker 2: The fuck. Come on, I don't know that this world

2124
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 2: rewards all this fairness people talk about. I don't know

2125
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 2: that all these people that are saying they're shocked and

2126
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 2: upset are really virtual of I don't know that these

2127
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 2: people are actually people that put those things into action.

2128
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: I think it's easy to just single him out for

2129
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 2: this particular thing, But those saying people will support some

2130
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 2: other artists and other folks that do just as fucked

2131
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 2: up shit. It's just where's your thing that, where's the

2132
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 2: thing that you participate in that you don't mind being

2133
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 2: fucked up? That reading for some people is that thing?

2134
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 4: Right?

2135
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: For some folks it's not. But then they'll listen to Joe,

2136
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 2: But they'll listen to Charlemagne and them. They'll they'll they'll

2137
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: enjoy a Tyler Perry movie, they'll enjoy some other author's book,

2138
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 2: certain blogs, stuff like that. They but they have their

2139
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 2: thing like because too many, too many people are making

2140
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 2: good money. Too many people are still selling out shows

2141
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: and stuff. For me to think that the world operates

2142
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: the way people try to pretend, which is we don't

2143
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: like this person, they're problematic, and I'm like, but they

2144
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 2: also are making all the money. So at what point

2145
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: are we gonna stop? At what point, are we gonna

2146
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: talk about you being full of shit? You know, like

2147
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: you're mad about Kwan Miles that the first thing when

2148
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,759
Speaker 2: you get upset with somebody you do is call them

2149
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 2: a bitch or a whole or you know, like you

2150
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like the first thing you run

2151
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 2: to is some type of misogynistic insult. But then you

2152
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: turn around and and go fuck this dude, Like, I

2153
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:02,480
Speaker 2: don't know, like it. It presented a lot of interesting

2154
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 2: moral quandaries around that guy, so correct. Lastly, you and

2155
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,879
Speaker 2: Justin talked on the pregame about the shooting at Butler

2156
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 2: whether the kids had to go back to school. I

2157
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 2: read it it was considered a bullying incident, but I

2158
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: didn't know why school continued, knowing that it was a

2159
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 2: black school, but that that put that back in perspective.

2160
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 2: I can't imagine having to deal with that as a

2161
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 2: student or a parent. Here at the Great Work, Yeah,

2162
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 2: that was terrible.

2163
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said only one hundred students state most of

2164
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 4: the student body.

2165
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Left, but they told them school class was still in.

2166
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 2: I read it like, oh, yeah, but right, which is fine,

2167
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 2: but as a policy that's terrible. Yes, So it doesn't

2168
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 2: matter that people ignored it. It sucks that YA would

2169
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 2: even think and I and I can't help but believe personally.

2170
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 4: That that's because it's a black school, right.

2171
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 2: I think if it was a white school.

2172
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 4: A dismissed class, because the thing is the next day

2173
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 4: they were out of school anyway.

2174
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, that was ridiculous. Oh we did get gifts.

2175
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: Hold On, I gotta get them.

2176
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 4: Hold on, Okay, I got them lined up, one at

2177
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 4: a time.

2178
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Uh tell them what we got from?

2179
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 4: Uh these I guess we got when we were in California.

2180
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 4: We had a good number of people that came and

2181
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 4: had us gifts. We weren't prepared for them. We weren't

2182
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 4: prepared for them at all, and we want to thank

2183
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 4: you when we got through the regular mail. But the

2184
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 4: rest of them were actually gifts that people came and

2185
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 4: thank you everybody. A lot of that stuff was specialized

2186
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 4: from that area, stuff that we probably wouldn't never got

2187
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 4: anywhere else. So I'm excited.

2188
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went out to UC Irvine and after the pedal,

2189
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: that was probably like twenty twenty five fans there as well,

2190
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 2: and we got to take pictures of everybody. It was fun.

2191
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 4: If you follow us online at the pla isn't the

2192
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 4: black Eye who Tips.

2193
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: At the the pot you talking about Instagram? Yeah, the

2194
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 2: black Eye Hotep.

2195
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 4: The black eyeho Tips is our Instagram and we actually

2196
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 4: changed it because we had at tbgwt. But if you're

2197
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 4: an all fan of that one, that one is no

2198
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 4: longer active because we got locked out on Instagram. Said

2199
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 4: fuck it. So I knew Instagram is at the black

2200
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 4: Eye Tips and that's what I post a lot of

2201
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 4: our adventures and tenatikins whill we go traveling and stuff.

2202
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 2: So all right, let's get into what we got. The

2203
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: first one came in the mail and they didn't leave

2204
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 2: a they didn't leave like a note, and I forget

2205
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 2: who did it, but.

2206
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 4: They didn't, but say that name is on the thing.

2207
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, on the package. That's why I kept

2208
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 4: the package.

2209
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 2: Thanks you.

2210
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 4: Okay, you can just do first name, lest initial.

2211
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 2: Jamil Jamil B. So he took a picture on Twitter

2212
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 2: of him at the store and he was like pumpkin, maple,

2213
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 2: cornbread rod because everybody sends the pictures of all that

2214
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 2: pumpkins by shit, y'all. And I said, oh, mail me

2215
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 2: some and I was just joking, and he was like back,

2216
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: and I went to the mailbox. It was in there,

2217
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: so I will be having some pumpkin curl corn bread.

2218
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: All right. I'm not sure who this bag is funk. Yeah, yeah,

2219
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: there's a note says Rod and Karen is a card.

2220
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: All right? Let me open up this car? Car didn't

2221
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 2: all right, and it says congrats on the front. It

2222
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 2: was a trade of Joe's card. So I know what's

2223
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 2: in this bag. It's what's up? Uh, Samir says, uh,

2224
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: so very happy for you, dear Rodan Karen. Sorry I

2225
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 2: couldn't make it to make it out, but please accept

2226
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 2: this wine and cheese on behalf of me and my

2227
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: East Coast Amigo, Demetria, live your best West Coast white

2228
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: woman of color life. Love Samir, ahe half of Bad

2229
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 2: and Boozy podcast. Oh Samir, it was our three year

2230
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: friendship anniversary on Facebook this week this week, and I

2231
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 2: was like three years of arguments. Theyly about pumpkin spice.

2232
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, who would have thought we would make

2233
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 2: it this far? You know?

2234
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

2235
01:53:58,360 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 2: And let me see what kind of wine we got

2236
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 2: from Trader Joe's ooh Seco peach Ballini whine specialty. All right,

2237
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 2: Seco and Peter BikeE crackers, multi grain O Whole Week,

2238
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: and flat seeds.

2239
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 4: Her flax seed is good for you.

2240
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well everything in Trade Joe is good for you.

2241
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what's good in Trader Joe's. They

2242
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: got some good shoe ma oh for real, it's frozen.

2243
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 2: You just cook it up at home. Ooh. Cheddar cheese okay,

2244
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: tastes like an age premium cheddar with hints of parmesan.

2245
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 2: Well well, well, looks like cheese and crackers is on

2246
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 2: the menion. I'll come on now, could have used that

2247
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 2: for our next book review.

2248
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 4: Come on, we ain't picked the bookie at y'all. We'll

2249
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 4: let you know what's up on next up on the

2250
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 4: Ratchet reading.

2251
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 2: It'll be gone by then. But I might make make

2252
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: the next one a pole and let the audience pick.

2253
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 4: Oh, like, we'll go through it and.

2254
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 2: The audience can play on the pole, like of the

2255
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 2: like two or three titles. Yeah yeah, but I saw one, y'all,

2256
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 2: and it's not black, but I think I want to

2257
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 2: include it. And it was something like I can't you

2258
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 2: know what it says, something like forbidding pumpkin spice love

2259
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 2: a step brother fairy tale. Yes, so I don't know.

2260
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: I might put that up for the bidding too.

2261
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 4: That sound good?

2262
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: All right? We got this bag. Hold on, let me

2263
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: move this out the way, all right. Make sure there's

2264
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: no more notes that I missed anything.

2265
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 4: Cool?

2266
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 2: All right. We got this plastic bag here with a

2267
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 2: bunch of goods in it and a note. All right,

2268
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 2: this is says Rider Caring TVGWT open this on up

2269
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 2: and man, all these snacks. I don't know how I'm

2270
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna eat all this. Oh, also traded Joe's card. That's

2271
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 2: how you know the love is real.

2272
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and y'all making grandma over here happy because I'm

2273
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 4: gonna put them cars up there with the rest of them.

2274
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 2: Also, Girl, Mary Mary h love Mary, your faithful Filipino

2275
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 2: fan fan, Dear Rod and Karen the trader Joe's car

2276
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: car selection is men second. I'm not sure I totally

2277
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 2: agree with the sentiment, but it made more sense than

2278
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: happy Birthday. So it says on the front just living

2279
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 2: is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom, and a

2280
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: little flower. Hans Christian Anderson said it. I think it

2281
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 2: made but it made more sense to happy Birthday. I'm

2282
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: so happy for your growing success. You two and your

2283
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 2: community that sprung up around you make me feel not

2284
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 2: so long and almost like the people I've been looking

2285
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: for my whole life. Maybe that's dramatic. Oh anyways, enough

2286
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: your brief stay in Cali. Enjoy your brief day in

2287
01:56:53,880 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 2: Cali and working and looking forward to our plans oscrousing again. Man, listen,

2288
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 2: that's such a this is us moment right there. Thank

2289
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 2: you some of my page yesterday, I was like, man,

2290
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 2: reading your status about voting made me tear up a

2291
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 2: little bit because I've been out here like knocking on

2292
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 2: doors and asking people to vote and really trying to

2293
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 2: get out the vote. And to see somebody that gets it,

2294
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 2: and to see a bunch of people that agree with

2295
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: you in your thread like it really brought tears in

2296
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: my eyes. And I said, well, it's embarrassing. I said,

2297
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: don't be embarrassed. One, thank you for what you're doing,

2298
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: come on, But two, my page is like this is us. Okay,

2299
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 2: it's funny, it's provocative, but it's also a place so

2300
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,920
Speaker 2: you can unwind and shed a couple tears. Guys. Okay,

2301
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 2: all right, let's see what we got in here. These

2302
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 2: goodies ooh, I don't even know how you pronounced this.

2303
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 2: Seaweed crackers with Asian names, so you know it's real.

2304
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna be sea weed it on.

2305
01:57:55,640 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 2: And then we got some way for rolls. Right, it's

2306
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 2: just from old foods. I don't think a whole food's

2307
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 2: got this. Hold what is good? G c E wheat,

2308
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 2: crack of bobecue flavor? Ah shit, now may y'all here

2309
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 2: hooking us up. Then we got some almond cookies individually wrapped.

2310
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: That's how you know it's fancy. Come on, portion control,

2311
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna matter. Coconut candy can can

2312
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 2: have this? Oh yeah, sorry, I hate coconut. And lastly, lastly,

2313
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 2: this just says playful spicy. Now the icon for this

2314
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 2: might be racist, I don't know, but it does look

2315
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 2: like a delicious streak, like a milk dud right made

2316
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: in Taiwan's. It's a naughty spicy foil egg what all right?

2317
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 2: I can't wait to try to fancy. I feel like

2318
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna look like the Marshall's out.

2319
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 4: After world, right, look like none of your ship matches.

2320
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: We don't care, all right, we got I don't know

2321
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: who this is. Oh, I think I think that's from

2322
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: Andy and his wife Shawn, because he said I think

2323
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: one of these might it might have got yeah seas candy,

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01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 2: which they said was like the ship and you gotta

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Speaker 2: try that out in Cali. That was like, if you're

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Speaker 2: out here, you gotta get you some Sea's candy. So

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01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: uh they wrapped it smells.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, but I said, if you opening it up now.

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01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just smelling it. Karen, Okay, don't don't

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01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 2: freak out over there. Oh my goodness. Mm hmm. Well

2331
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 2: too bad. It's all the way over here with me.

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Speaker 2: I won't eat it in front of you, Caren, I say.

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01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 4: You can, but then I want some.

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01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna send it to the side.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:59:56,200 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 2: Jealous shit. It's a lot lollipops, pumpkin spice, yes, little lollipops,

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02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 2: sees candy, and Little Pop's assorted hand candy trees. So

2338
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: much candy. You don't think we ain't trying to trap

2339
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 2: some handsome and gretels.

2340
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 4: We just spin it's the first batch.

2341
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 2: And lastly pumpkin pie truffles. Oh oh, you know my heart,

2342
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 2: You know my heart? Thank you? M M. Mm hmm.

2343
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:28,839
Speaker 2: To think that people that just don't get it. Imagine

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02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 2: denying yourself pumpkin spice. Could you even imagine the scenario

2345
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 2: in your life where you would say no to such deliciousness?

2346
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 2: Every fall? Couldn't be me? Uh, pumpkin spice twinkies?

2347
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 4: Oh yes, sneakish. Yes.

2348
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 2: When when Bacon and the Jayala and Aaron came down,

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02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 2: they brought some pumpkin spice. Uh, they weren't twinkies, but

2350
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 2: they were like punkin spice. Uh, Swiss rolls or something.

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02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 4: Oh.

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02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: The lasted a day and of course glade cozy Autumn

2353
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 2: candle Cuddle is the name of this candle and it's

2354
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 2: heirloom pumpkin caramel and spice.

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02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 4: Oh yes, come on, we'll be burning.

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02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 2: That delicious Oh. I love when my house smells like

2357
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 2: pumpkin in the fall. It's just it's like all the

2358
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 2: oppression and rage just goes out of my life and

2359
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 2: next thing you know, I'm wearing ugs very comfortably. Everybody

2360
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 2: was feeling my new ugs too out there because my

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02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 2: ug my UG game is tight. And we saw the

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Speaker 2: official UG store. We did like the mall was the

2363
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Speaker 2: mall was bumping, was lit all right, we got one

2364
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 2: more bag. Hold on, can you reach thatpa? Oh? This

2365
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 2: one must be from t all right, all right, so

2366
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 2: Tia got us first of all, the people's dispensary. Is

2367
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 2: the bag all right? And no there's no weed in it.

2368
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 2: We we put it on the plane where we're alive.

2369
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 2: No dogs sick us. Right. But you know, t Aso

2370
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 2: is activists and doing great things super you know, So

2371
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 2: now we're gonna be looking mad woke. Okay, she got

2372
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 2: us some hashtag schools not Prisons hats, which is initiative

2373
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 2: that she is part of out there that's trying to

2374
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 2: get like help kids and well in school's not for

2375
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 2: it's really self explanatory shout out to messaging. Right. Uh

2376
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 2: but but that's the hashtag too, hashtag schools not Prisons.

2377
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 2: You can look it up on the Twitter. Got a

2378
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 2: shirt that says let me open this up, put this

2379
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 2: down for a second. It says and bill now on

2380
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 2: the back and on the front it says school's not prisons.

2381
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 2: Look at that?

2382
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 4: Is that videos coming playing?

2383
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 2: I do hear like I feel like I'm hearing something. Yeah, Okay,

2384
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 2: Karen's We've been doing it the whole show. But Karen's

2385
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 2: gonna go take care of it now because you know,

2386
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 2: the other two hours didn't count. But yeah, we got

2387
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 2: the shirts. You got the shirts, and we also got

2388
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 2: at the bottom the little bracelet thing that you put

2389
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,760
Speaker 2: on like you know, hashtat School's not prison and some

2390
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 2: buttons black asl So thank you tyr for the woke gifts.

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02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 4: Yes, getting on woke and shit.

2392
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 2: And I think that's everything, all right. Let me see

2393
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 2: how long this is, okay, So I will there's like

2394
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 2: forty minutes of audio from our panel. I will take

2395
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 2: it and put it at the end of this episode.

2396
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 2: That'll make this episode about two hours and forty minutes.

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02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 4: Okay, So we talk about everything else tomorrow.

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02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, unless you, I mean you think

2399
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 2: we can talk about it quick or you want to

2400
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 2: take your time, okay, So then that's tomorrow or whenever

2401
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 2: we come back, because like I said, I'm not committing

2402
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 2: to anything right now, taking my time. We might come

2403
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 2: back on Tuesday, We might come back on Monday, might

2404
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 2: come back on Wednesday. I don't know. But yeah, we

2405
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 2: will have the panel audio now. It's from Karen's iPhone,

2406
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 2: so if it's not high quality, bear with us. I

2407
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 2: understand that that was the way we had to record

2408
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 2: that that specific panel. So uh, that's it. So until

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02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 2: next time, I love you.

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02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 4: I love it too.

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02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 13: They could make your slaps on body, but in some

2412
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 13: ways I feel like they they you.

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02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 14: Know, introsaction Dimitton approach here today.

2414
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 15: Well, I told Rod Murrow and Karen Merrow, who.

2415
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 10: Were the hosts of Buff like I had tips that

2416
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 10: from listening to their podcast, I feel like they're I'm

2417
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 10: their auntie.

2418
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 15: Because I'm old enough enough.

2419
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 10: But it the the important thing I and one of

2420
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 10: the reasons that I wanted to bring them and wanted

2421
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 10: to have Sarah Flarini.

2422
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 14: From and You, who is one of the foremost experts

2423
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 14: in the world on black American podcast just cause I'm

2424
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 14: the only you know other.

2425
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 4: Type of stuff.

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02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,080
Speaker 13: Yes, I don't you know me, you've met me, Well,

2427
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 13: I don't have to anyway.

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02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 15: I I think we brought.

2429
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 11: Them here today because we've been hearing about a lot

2430
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 11: of different podcast styles and uh that's the reason I

2431
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 11: am entitled it independent, Unapologetically Black and.

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02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 15: Funny as because, Uh, in so many ways I believe

2433
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:07,400
Speaker 15: what TDDWT.

2434
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 3: I even had their their tigon. I believe in many

2435
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 3: ways Uh, it does. What I like to write about.

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02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 13: My specialty is talking about comedy and blackness across medium

2437
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:29,520
Speaker 13: and literally when Sarah introduced me to this podcast, I

2438
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 13: was listening and and n I had a side that

2439
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 13: I didn't even know I needed to have, right And

2440
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 13: a lot of that has to.

2441
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 15: Do with the way they approach.

2442
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 8: Looking at popular culture, looking at race in America, looking

2443
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 8: at ridiculousness.

2444
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 15: In America, and it is.

2445
02:06:55,680 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 8: I it's a really liberating space, and I think even

2446
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 8: more so in the past.

2447
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 15: You know, in the past four to five years, it's

2448
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 15: become more and more apparent that.

2449
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 10: There needed to be that kind of liberatory space.

2450
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 15: And they are incredible. Now since this machine.

2451
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 7: Hates Max, I I kind of a couple of things

2452
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 7: that I was gonna I I was gonna play for you,

2453
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 7: but I thought, since I have the real people.

2454
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 15: Here, m maybe they could do the opening of the show.

2455
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:45,920
Speaker 16: For which part the uh I listen to rideing care

2456
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 16: because uh, the black out.

2457
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 15: Us rod and caring.

2458
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 2: Rap lyrics are just general. Hey, all right, Well, first

2459
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 2: of all, thank y'all for having us. Appreciate y'all. Uh,

2460
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,320
Speaker 2: those are a lot of academic words to describe what

2461
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 2: we do academics.

2462
02:08:14,720 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 4: No, we are not. You know this upfront, but we.

2463
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 2: Uh, we definitely. We've been podcasting for eight years now.

2464
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:26,120
Speaker 2: I think it will be not in January. We have

2465
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 2: a very black show.

2466
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 4: Yes, everybody's welcome.

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02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 2: But it's very it is you know, not not that

2468
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:39,160
Speaker 2: blacknesses is quantifiable, but it's very good. Yeah, but we

2469
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 2: have you know, we've done it long enough that we've

2470
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 2: we've accumulated a bit of a listener base as far

2471
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 2: as what then we're talking about, and we watched a

2472
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 2: lot of presentation before us. I feel like we are

2473
02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 2: all over the place, so we are all the Ninja turtles.

2474
02:08:56,240 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 4: Casey, Yeah, we swap out cars. You know, it's like

2475
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 4: almost wherever you're needed, kind of like they doing the cartoon.

2476
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 4: Whoever needs to step up sometimes gets outside of their

2477
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 4: comfortable space and say, well I need to step up

2478
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 4: here because the way our structure is. Because they're talking

2479
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 4: about structure before. He is actually the host and I'm

2480
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 4: the co host. We both are actually hosts, but he's

2481
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 4: actually the ones that keeps the structure, keeps the flow.

2482
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 4: He's the one that's actually the person that kind of

2483
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:27,840
Speaker 4: doesn't go up and down. He kind of keeps that

2484
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 4: same place. Now I am all over the place. The

2485
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,280
Speaker 4: running joke is like I'm a puff daddy. I come

2486
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,320
Speaker 4: in with no organization, don't know what's happening, and be

2487
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 4: like take that, take that, this is what's happening today,

2488
02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 4: you know, and go with the flow.

2489
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 2: You know.

2490
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 4: So, but that's kind of how our dynamic is. He

2491
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 4: does a lot of the reading of the articles. He

2492
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 4: does a lot of the prep work because I have

2493
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 4: a full time job. He actually works for the podcast

2494
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 4: full time, so he has the time to go online,

2495
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 4: read the articles, see what's happening across the internet. I don't,

2496
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 4: so I am the audience, and so sometimes people that

2497
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 4: listen to the show they don't understand why my response

2498
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 4: and reaction is how it is because when he reads something,

2499
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is that? What does that mean? I'm

2500
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 4: actually because this is the first time I'm hearing it,

2501
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 4: just like the audience.

2502
02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of like jazz, like I would say, like

2503
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 2: I try to be the baseline baby piano and Karen's

2504
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 2: like the trumpet, right, but it's still kind of interchangeable,

2505
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 2: right because like in the last spot we were talking

2506
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 2: about the pet ad right, which it does suck when

2507
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 2: somebody is like actually, but sometimes we turn that into

2508
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 2: the joke, like that's it up? Now? Is you fuck

2509
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 2: that up? Let's talk about it, you know. And so

2510
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,880
Speaker 2: also on that petit slide, it used the wrong No,

2511
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 2: did an'ybody notice? Yeah, I know I thought it was

2512
02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:57,839
Speaker 2: so meta. Yes, yeah, but our show does evacillates from funny.

2513
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it can be kind of sad. Sometimes it can.

2514
02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 2: We talk about racial topics, uh LGBTQ issues, we talk

2515
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 2: about feminism stuff, a lot of sad stuff, right, but

2516
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:13,080
Speaker 2: we try to make it funny. You know, sometimes the

2517
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 2: ridiculousness of what we're talking about. Because you live in

2518
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 2: this world, the only response is to the absurd is

2519
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:22,520
Speaker 2: to laugh. So, you know, i'd say our shows like,

2520
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like sofa. It's like it's like

2521
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 2: a meal, you know, like you gotta eat your greens,

2522
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:29,680
Speaker 2: but we also are gonna have like some good corn

2523
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 2: red at the end. So it's the whole picture, all right.

2524
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that wasn't even a question.

2525
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't even know that.

2526
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 2: Hey, it's the blackout tips you find on iTunes that

2527
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 2: you're potomatic. Just search the blackout tips. Leave us FOP

2528
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 2: star reviews.

2529
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,240
Speaker 4: Those are the only ones we read. We don't read

2530
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 4: anything else. And they must be nice.

2531
02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 2: They must be nice. Talk to us nicely. You want

2532
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:56,680
Speaker 2: to be heard.

2533
02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 4: Our feelings matter.

2534
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 2: And I'm your host, Rod, and I'm joined us always

2535
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 2: by Karen. There you go, had you? Oh we're doing

2536
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:19,960
Speaker 2: that to the official weabinar the show is how bad?

2537
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 2: We did not rehearse this, Yeah.

2538
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 4: We didn't. We didn't get to know.

2539
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:33,240
Speaker 10: I'm sorry. And and in a lot of ways that

2540
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 10: when I first talked to Jonathan and he told me

2541
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 10: about this happening, because I came on a lot later,

2542
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 10: and and he said, we were looking for podcast artists,

2543
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 10: and I went, I know who we're got.

2544
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 8: Oh and and and I think all of the different

2545
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 8: artists who we had, you ever really give different.

2546
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:57,880
Speaker 10: Impressions of what podcasting is and what podcasting can be.

2547
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 15: Let me give you Rod Karents.

2548
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:05,360
Speaker 14: Rod and Karen have been been doing this since for

2549
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:06,520
Speaker 14: almost nine years.

2550
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, but Rod and Karen have been Rod and Karen

2551
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 13: since they were sixteen, and they got married in two.

2552
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 4: Thousand and two.

2553
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 8: So we're seeing a beautiful this is black glove. And

2554
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 8: what I think is it is important about that it

2555
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 8: is also that they the way that they talk to

2556
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 8: each other, the way they engage is so beautifully natural

2557
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 8: when they're talking about these pretty deep subjects.

2558
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 10: And one of the things in for the folks who

2559
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 10: are t tdg w T people out there, one of

2560
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:53,680
Speaker 10: the things they do they have different segments in the show,

2561
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 10: but the segments.

2562
02:13:55,160 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 15: Also have musical themes that go with it. There's a

2563
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:05,680
Speaker 15: song for fucking with Black People, there's a song for

2564
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:12,240
Speaker 15: l TTQ news and the race and guess the Race.

2565
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 15: That's another good one.

2566
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:19,880
Speaker 10: And when I went saw their first live show in

2567
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 10: Charlotte because I am an evangelist for TV, and.

2568
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 17: One of the things that was so incredible is hearing everybody.

2569
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 10: Sing on the songs because what one copyright and because

2570
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 10: there's such an incredible engagement.

2571
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,840
Speaker 15: And again one of the things they also wanted to

2572
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 15: mention is.

2573
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 8: Sarah Flarini's research focuses on the intersection of emerging media,

2574
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 8: Black American cultural production, and racial politics in the post

2575
02:14:56,880 --> 02:15:00,920
Speaker 8: civil rights movement landscape. And just for you guys to

2576
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:05,760
Speaker 8: put this on your Amazon wist list, her book Blackness,

2577
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 8: There's an app for that.

2578
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:13,560
Speaker 10: Racial politics and digital black digital networks. There will be

2579
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 10: forthcoming from n YU Press in the fall.

2580
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 15: Nineteen fall nineteen, so you know, put that on WISTE. Now,

2581
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:29,080
Speaker 15: I have my students. I'm teaching a class called podcast

2582
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 15: Nation right.

2583
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 13: Now, and we've been doing TVGWT all week.

2584
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, And.

2585
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 15: So I asked the students to draft some questions.

2586
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 10: Okay, and I told and I also said to them,

2587
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,720
Speaker 10: you know what they say, there are no stupid questions.

2588
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:48,160
Speaker 15: They love them.

2589
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:53,800
Speaker 8: But I got some really thoughtful questions from them.

2590
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:55,800
Speaker 15: And I thought I would just direct.

2591
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 14: It at you folks, and and.

2592
02:15:57,400 --> 02:16:00,360
Speaker 15: That way is it. It'll structure it sort of through that.

2593
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 8: The first question is what is the origin story of

2594
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:07,400
Speaker 8: tvg WT.

2595
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,120
Speaker 2: So I used to have a blog called the Blackout

2596
02:16:12,160 --> 02:16:15,839
Speaker 2: Tips and it would start. I named it that because

2597
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:18,440
Speaker 2: I was so tired of that stereotype that black people

2598
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 2: don't tap.

2599
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 3: Right.

2600
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 2: I used to be a waiter need to uh for

2601
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 2: years and that sucks, right because like, on the one hand,

2602
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:28,200
Speaker 2: it's it's a what do you call it? It's like

2603
02:16:28,240 --> 02:16:33,560
Speaker 2: a yeah, it's a self self fulfilling, fulfilling prophecy. I

2604
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 2: don't know, self fulfilling narrative. Right, I'm not gonna take

2605
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:38,680
Speaker 2: this black table because Durbal lick and they won't tap

2606
02:16:38,680 --> 02:16:40,000
Speaker 2: any you treat the white shit and even be like

2607
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't tip that. I don't know you, right, so

2608
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 2: so you so so you on both sides, right, Like

2609
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm super conscious about it now, like I you need overtell.

2610
02:16:50,840 --> 02:16:53,880
Speaker 4: But constantly we be like, you gave me bad service.

2611
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 4: You're going down to twenty percent, right, which it doesn't

2612
02:16:57,400 --> 02:16:59,160
Speaker 4: make sense, but that's just how we're built, right.

2613
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:01,320
Speaker 2: And it's also cause used to be waiters, right, so

2614
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:03,840
Speaker 2: we know the hardships of it. But everyone should have

2615
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:06,760
Speaker 2: to be a waiter. But that's a whole different thing. Anyway,

2616
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:09,199
Speaker 2: The point being I used to just write about random

2617
02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:12,320
Speaker 2: funny stuff, and so I used that title, and then

2618
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:15,200
Speaker 2: we used to we were listening. We still listen to

2619
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:16,360
Speaker 2: a lot of podcasts, but I used to listen to

2620
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 2: podcast called Keith and the Girl, which is like two.

2621
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 2: They were the first podcasts I listened to that were

2622
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:27,360
Speaker 2: like two people that were not like comedians entertainers. They

2623
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:29,400
Speaker 2: were just like people that had like a studio in

2624
02:17:29,480 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 2: their other room and they would talking about like the

2625
02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:34,400
Speaker 2: stuff they did at worker that day, and I was like, wow,

2626
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:37,920
Speaker 2: this is kind of intimate and cool, and someone was

2627
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:39,880
Speaker 2: complaining about the show and they wrote it into the

2628
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:42,120
Speaker 2: show and they were like, this is what's wrong with

2629
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:44,959
Speaker 2: your show? And then they replied like, well, if it's

2630
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 2: that easy, you should just like start the show and

2631
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 2: be better than us. And while I didn't have a

2632
02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:51,800
Speaker 2: problem with their show, I was like, yeah, why can't

2633
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:54,119
Speaker 2: anyone just start a show? So I was like, Karen,

2634
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 2: we should start a show. And Karen's like, I don't

2635
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 2: know about that. You you should start a show. You're funny.

2636
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:05,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, you're funny, trust me, and she's like, no, you.

2637
02:18:06,640 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 2: I would do the show, but if only if I

2638
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 2: cannot necessarily be committed to the show. She's like, if

2639
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:14,480
Speaker 2: I like, if you don't want me on the show anymore,

2640
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:17,480
Speaker 2: at some point that's okay and I will hop off.

2641
02:18:17,640 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 2: And so that's why it's named The black Out. Tell

2642
02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:21,200
Speaker 2: us I would have named it from like the Roding

2643
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:26,080
Speaker 2: Karen Show, or maybe not as catchy. Well, I probably

2644
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,960
Speaker 2: would have named it something like that, And that's how

2645
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,200
Speaker 2: that's the origin story. It took us.

2646
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 4: Man that first show, Oh my god, when I tell

2647
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:41,959
Speaker 4: you that, the first night we recorded literally everything that

2648
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:46,000
Speaker 4: could go wrong with wrong. We literally recorded like four

2649
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 4: or five times. We was back and forth at best Buy.

2650
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 4: We bought a computer, a brand new computer to soundboard

2651
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,039
Speaker 4: wouldn't work. We had to go back get another soundboard

2652
02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:56,200
Speaker 4: that didn't work. When I tell you, by the time

2653
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:58,480
Speaker 4: we recorded it was like midnight. So our fair first

2654
02:18:58,480 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 4: show was like, hey, I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, we don't.

2655
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 4: We don't know if anybody's out there.

2656
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 2: Then that.

2657
02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we was like we hope this goes somewhere and

2658
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,680
Speaker 4: at the end and then at the end, because we

2659
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 4: started so long ago, everything is simplified now it's it's

2660
02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:22,200
Speaker 4: like now we had to look up tutorials and people.

2661
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 4: Now you can clearly Google and it's this, this, this, this,

2662
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,160
Speaker 4: here's here's this, here's YouTube. Right, So for us it

2663
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:30,560
Speaker 4: was completely different. So thin it was like, okay, now

2664
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:33,640
Speaker 4: we got to get this up on iTunes, what's s

2665
02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:36,320
Speaker 4: how do you do this? So you know, we had

2666
02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:38,920
Speaker 4: to learn and grind. But the thing is once you

2667
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:41,160
Speaker 4: learn that, nobody can take that away from you.

2668
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 15: But yeah, that's the story.

2669
02:19:44,200 --> 02:19:44,520
Speaker 4: Cool.

2670
02:19:46,560 --> 02:19:51,959
Speaker 18: Sure, this isn't my question, not my students question. My

2671
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:56,879
Speaker 18: question was tell us about Sarah brought.

2672
02:19:56,680 --> 02:20:03,760
Speaker 12: The the article on the black Chiplin Circuit podcast Shilling Circuit,

2673
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 12: the podcast Chiplin Circuit and talking about the landscape of

2674
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:15,279
Speaker 12: black podcasting, and one of the things I thought.

2675
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:23,000
Speaker 17: You might address is the way that it operates in

2676
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:27,680
Speaker 17: somewhat different ways than some of the stuff that was

2677
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 17: being discussed earlier today in terms of of sort of the.

2678
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 15: Original black podcasting. And then well, you know what I mean,

2679
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:39,000
Speaker 15: a little question.

2680
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wrote this article that's now part of

2681
02:20:43,320 --> 02:20:47,520
Speaker 1: my current book project has expanded there about the podcast

2682
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,560
Speaker 1: Chilling Circuit. And I took that term actually from you all,

2683
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 1: and it was you all and Chris and Phenom. Chris

2684
02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,960
Speaker 1: is the host of Sanity Gechek podcast, which is he's

2685
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,960
Speaker 1: been doing it since two thousand and eight, so he's

2686
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:08,240
Speaker 1: been podcasting since for a decade now. Penon Black is

2687
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,320
Speaker 1: one of the co hosts of Where's My forty Acres?

2688
02:21:10,360 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 1: They started around this twenty and so they were all

2689
02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:21,000
Speaker 1: really tightly networked together, not in a formal network, but

2690
02:21:21,640 --> 02:21:24,119
Speaker 1: people were just on each other's shows, hanging out.

2691
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:26,039
Speaker 2: Conversations were happening.

2692
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:28,520
Speaker 1: Back and forth across the shows. People were calling in.

2693
02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 1: That's how I learned about their podcasts because Rod used

2694
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:35,520
Speaker 1: to call in to Blacking It Up, which was the

2695
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:41,320
Speaker 1: podcast of this weekend Blackness, And so they actually referred

2696
02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 1: to themselves as the podcasts Chillllin Circuit. And so there

2697
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:49,520
Speaker 1: is now this network of folks who I said in

2698
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 1: a panel earlier today, they were a handful of really cool,

2699
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:55,600
Speaker 1: interesting black podcasts in like twenty twelve, and I was

2700
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:58,800
Speaker 1: trying to start writing about them. Nobody cared about podcasts

2701
02:21:59,800 --> 02:22:02,440
Speaker 1: and them. Between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen, there was

2702
02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 1: this proliferation of podcasts in this network, in the Chillen

2703
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Circuit network. I've been trying to y'all, don't call it

2704
02:22:09,720 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 1: that anymore. So I've been trying to.

2705
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:12,400
Speaker 2: Drop that I don't even know it that it's like

2706
02:22:12,440 --> 02:22:14,119
Speaker 2: the black podcast here universe.

2707
02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:19,720
Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, it's evolved, evolved, you know.

2708
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Select you can map out the connections and there's about

2709
02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 1: sixty or seventy podcasts in this sort of constellation, right.

2710
02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:31,720
Speaker 1: And one of the things that is interesting about it.

2711
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:34,640
Speaker 1: Two things I think are particularly interesting is that the

2712
02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 1: community didn't form around the podcast. The podcast came from

2713
02:22:37,560 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 1: the community. So you have this handful of Chillen Circuit podcasts,

2714
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:44,480
Speaker 1: you have black Twitter, you have folks interacting online. And

2715
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 1: then I don't even know how many people have said

2716
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:50,280
Speaker 1: folks refer to Rod and Karen as the pod mother

2717
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:55,160
Speaker 1: and podfather, because over and over again, folks who have

2718
02:22:55,240 --> 02:22:56,240
Speaker 1: podcasts are like, I.

2719
02:22:56,240 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 15: Decided to do this because of Rod and Karen.

2720
02:22:57,760 --> 02:22:59,360
Speaker 4: I decided to do this because of Rod and Karen.

2721
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:03,560
Speaker 1: And they're always very modest about their impact and how

2722
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:07,200
Speaker 1: much they've helped people in both terms of inspiration but

2723
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:10,039
Speaker 1: actually like materially tangibly helped people.

2724
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:10,480
Speaker 18: Set things up.

2725
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 1: And so the podcast emerged or not as part of

2726
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:20,560
Speaker 1: this large, broader network network, So they didn't come first.

2727
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:21,760
Speaker 2: It kind of.

2728
02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Happened organically, which I think makes it a different digital

2729
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:27,720
Speaker 1: space than some of the other podcast communities.

2730
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:29,800
Speaker 15: The other thing is.

2731
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 1: That every time I'm on a podcast panel, I feel

2732
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:35,160
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna date myself.

2733
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 15: But y'all remember the Sesame Street.

2734
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:37,959
Speaker 1: One of these kids is doing their own thing.

2735
02:23:38,640 --> 02:23:39,280
Speaker 15: Yeah that's me.

2736
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:42,320
Speaker 1: Because folks say a bunch of stuff about how podcasts work,

2737
02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:44,200
Speaker 1: and then I say, okay, so the podcast that I

2738
02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:46,760
Speaker 1: write about don't do that at all.

2739
02:23:48,680 --> 02:23:51,599
Speaker 15: So a lot of way, in a lot of ways.

2740
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:53,320
Speaker 1: In deliberate choices that I hope you all will talk

2741
02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:58,720
Speaker 1: about they There is definitely a structure. I know Rod

2742
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:01,840
Speaker 1: spends a lot of time doing research and putting together

2743
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:04,840
Speaker 1: the articles and everything they're to talk about and are segments,

2744
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:07,920
Speaker 1: But all of these podcasts by and large just have

2745
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:13,320
Speaker 1: this sort of open free flow. Right the the presentation

2746
02:24:13,400 --> 02:24:15,240
Speaker 1: before this, we're like, don't talk to your podcast co

2747
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:17,879
Speaker 1: hosts like they're your friends, don't interrupt them, don't make

2748
02:24:17,879 --> 02:24:18,600
Speaker 1: inside jokes.

2749
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 15: Don I'm like, like.

2750
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:23,400
Speaker 4: That's what I come for, where.

2751
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:27,720
Speaker 1: Like college together, And they'll be talking about like old

2752
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 1: college parties and stuff.

2753
02:24:31,320 --> 02:24:33,959
Speaker 15: Half the time. Run care very good about introducing themselves.

2754
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:34,680
Speaker 4: With some of these other.

2755
02:24:34,520 --> 02:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Podcasts, Where's my forty acres will get forty five minutes

2756
02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:39,480
Speaker 1: into the show and be like, okay, well this is

2757
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:41,920
Speaker 1: where's my forty acres?

2758
02:24:41,959 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 4: Right?

2759
02:24:43,640 --> 02:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I have the worst time with some of like fire

2760
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:47,640
Speaker 1: Starters does not introduce them.

2761
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:49,520
Speaker 4: They just start talking.

2762
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 1: And the model is very much just this conversational model.

2763
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:56,879
Speaker 1: Like their their shows are often two or three hours

2764
02:24:56,959 --> 02:24:58,879
Speaker 1: long because it just takes as long as it takes

2765
02:24:58,879 --> 02:24:59,800
Speaker 1: to have the conversation.

2766
02:25:00,400 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 15: And but there is.

2767
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we don't a lot, we don't edit a lot. No,

2768
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:08,359
Speaker 2: not that's from years.

2769
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:09,879
Speaker 4: Of yeah, yeah, years of doing it.

2770
02:25:10,040 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 8: Yeah not.

2771
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:14,600
Speaker 2: We just we do the show. We're very natural, and

2772
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:17,200
Speaker 2: then we uh, I used to edit the hell out

2773
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:20,720
Speaker 2: of it, like and it sucks because that's not even

2774
02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 2: how conversations start, right you take out of us and

2775
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:24,840
Speaker 2: the stutters. No one talks like.

2776
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,800
Speaker 4: That, nobody, Right, we had a president of the United.

2777
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 2: States that stutters, you know, and then we had this

2778
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:31,720
Speaker 2: idiot but before but before him, like rockaballs one of the

2779
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 2: smart people in the world, and you have to be like, uh,

2780
02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:36,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, why would I take my ship out?

2781
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:38,600
Speaker 2: And this dude is the smartest hell, Like we all

2782
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 2: understand that. So like we used to put music in

2783
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:46,279
Speaker 2: the background because our mics were so yeah, sounds so terrible.

2784
02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:49,520
Speaker 2: Maybe if I like turn up music and then it'll

2785
02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:51,160
Speaker 2: be like people want to notice how terrible it is,

2786
02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 2: which is the exactly yes, because we're talking right now,

2787
02:25:57,680 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 2: it's terrible with the baseline, right. We So like we

2788
02:26:01,879 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 2: had we we went through all these different iterations, but

2789
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:08,120
Speaker 2: we didn't make conscious choices as well as you were saying.

2790
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:12,480
Speaker 2: So like as far as like segments and stuff, those

2791
02:26:12,480 --> 02:26:14,879
Speaker 2: things were organic. Like all the songs were singing. Cara

2792
02:26:14,959 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 2: made those songs up in the middle of the show,

2793
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 2: like we just be talking one day and she'd be like,

2794
02:26:18,959 --> 02:26:21,400
Speaker 2: all these articles about racism, it feels like people are

2795
02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 2: just fucking with us. And I'm like, yeah, they're fucking

2796
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:24,440
Speaker 2: with us, and she's like, we should just have a

2797
02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:28,000
Speaker 2: song with these black people. And then that's how the

2798
02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:30,560
Speaker 2: game show music. And then can like sings the song

2799
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:33,960
Speaker 2: and now it's like the song, right, And the same

2800
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:38,720
Speaker 2: thing for guess the race right, sored ratchetess, that long

2801
02:26:38,760 --> 02:26:43,200
Speaker 2: ass sword fighting sound. It's all just random stuff like

2802
02:26:43,240 --> 02:26:46,000
Speaker 2: we're just kind of coming up so and some of

2803
02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:48,600
Speaker 2: it stays becomes the staple of the show. Some things

2804
02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:51,320
Speaker 2: are only there for however, Longe, you think they're cool, right,

2805
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:55,280
Speaker 2: Like there's a groupy tales, right, Like gruby Tails is

2806
02:26:55,280 --> 02:26:57,680
Speaker 2: really cool, right, everybody loves five star check like that.

2807
02:26:57,760 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 2: Listened to the show for a long time, but we

2808
02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 2: ran out of group of tells. People stopped fucking famous

2809
02:27:01,480 --> 02:27:02,320
Speaker 2: dudes and about it.

2810
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we read out of stories. I mean, we

2811
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:07,320
Speaker 4: looked and they quit still y'all.

2812
02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:10,480
Speaker 2: So a lot of it is nebulous. The whole chilling

2813
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:13,279
Speaker 2: circuit thing was kind of a play on the idea

2814
02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 2: that you guys know what the real chilling circuit is.

2815
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:20,320
Speaker 2: Like Black entertainers back during the segregation and Jim Crow era,

2816
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:22,640
Speaker 2: they they would be in the South and they would

2817
02:27:22,640 --> 02:27:24,120
Speaker 2: only be able to tour in the South. They couldn't

2818
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 2: really go up north. It's to segregated. They're like, I

2819
02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:32,040
Speaker 2: don't want to be entertained. So they were. They were,

2820
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:35,040
Speaker 2: they were functioning in these mostly black spots that they

2821
02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:38,240
Speaker 2: would make, you know, mostly cash, you know, but traveling

2822
02:27:38,480 --> 02:27:41,080
Speaker 2: just through the South strictly. And it's kind of like

2823
02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:44,080
Speaker 2: you had all this black talent and nobody really knew

2824
02:27:44,080 --> 02:27:46,600
Speaker 2: about it except black people. Like famous with just black

2825
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:50,320
Speaker 2: people at that time. And then when we started a podcast,

2826
02:27:50,320 --> 02:27:53,520
Speaker 2: everyone's like, podcasting is so white. Oh, it's so many

2827
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,880
Speaker 2: white podcasts. It's only white people that do podcasts. I'm like,

2828
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:59,959
Speaker 2: we do finished so our friends and stuff. They were

2829
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:04,440
Speaker 2: they're doing shows. We start cross networking. I know for

2830
02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:06,960
Speaker 2: a fact, I can't put this. I'm sure there's not

2831
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:08,560
Speaker 2: like a record of it. But we had to be

2832
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:11,000
Speaker 2: the first people on Sky using that shit to record

2833
02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 2: each other. Like we record each other like the way

2834
02:28:13,400 --> 02:28:16,080
Speaker 2: you used to record with a tape recorder and the ratios.

2835
02:28:16,120 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my gosh, y'all, we have came

2836
02:28:20,120 --> 02:28:24,800
Speaker 4: a long way. Like, the thing about podcasting is that

2837
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:30,119
Speaker 4: it's structure, but it's also nonstructure. It's structure as far

2838
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:32,880
Speaker 4: as like the things you do to get your stuff

2839
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:36,000
Speaker 4: out there, that's the structure, the play, the record, you know,

2840
02:28:36,280 --> 02:28:40,039
Speaker 4: ris it, but it's nonstructure as far as how.

2841
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:40,720
Speaker 2: You want to do it.

2842
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:45,080
Speaker 4: It's a blank slate on the topic. Because anything you

2843
02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:47,959
Speaker 4: can think about underneath the sun, somebody has a podcast.

2844
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:50,240
Speaker 4: You bake, it's a podcast. You sow, it's the podcast.

2845
02:28:50,400 --> 02:28:52,080
Speaker 4: You read a book about a book about a book,

2846
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,480
Speaker 4: it's the podcast. So anything you can think undneath the

2847
02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:57,520
Speaker 4: sun is a podcast. The length it varies. Some people

2848
02:28:57,560 --> 02:28:59,640
Speaker 4: follow structure. I need to be thirty minutes. I need

2849
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:00,960
Speaker 4: to be out, I need to be this, I need

2850
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:03,039
Speaker 4: to be that. We're loan for them. We're like, hey,

2851
02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:06,199
Speaker 4: you can commute to work with us. You can save

2852
02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:09,119
Speaker 4: our show and actually do a full day of just us,

2853
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:12,200
Speaker 4: you know, because the thing is we realized what I know.

2854
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:15,600
Speaker 4: I've realized that everybody wants to follow the structure, but

2855
02:29:15,680 --> 02:29:19,680
Speaker 4: sometimes that might not be you. And also sometimes I

2856
02:29:19,720 --> 02:29:24,360
Speaker 4: think that people when it comes to the structure, it

2857
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:28,720
Speaker 4: doesn't fit them. It's like sticking a circle in the square.

2858
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:29,240
Speaker 2: You know.

2859
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:32,800
Speaker 4: For us, we do our show five days a week.

2860
02:29:32,879 --> 02:29:35,600
Speaker 4: We understand most people are not going to be that committed.

2861
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:38,879
Speaker 2: Some people might do once a week, keep that schedule.

2862
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 4: Some people might do once a month, keep that schedule.

2863
02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:45,720
Speaker 4: It's like, whatever schedule fits your lifestyle. And for most

2864
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:49,160
Speaker 4: people it's going to be a hobby. And that's okay too.

2865
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:51,120
Speaker 4: A lot of people getting the podcast thinking I'm gonna

2866
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:52,920
Speaker 4: get a podcasts and make money. I'm getting a podcast

2867
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:56,160
Speaker 4: to be like this person, the average person. But like

2868
02:29:56,280 --> 02:30:00,280
Speaker 4: just most podcasts do not make it past eight episodes period.

2869
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:03,920
Speaker 4: Most podcasts, when you push play eight episodes, they're done

2870
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:08,240
Speaker 4: because they were like, oh shit, this is motherfucking work. Yes, yes, yes,

2871
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:11,680
Speaker 4: it is work. You have to set time aside, you

2872
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:14,040
Speaker 4: have to get with your co holes, you have to

2873
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:17,040
Speaker 4: plan out like it is work. And once people realize

2874
02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:19,440
Speaker 4: it's work, and then life, which is real, start creeping in.

2875
02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 4: I got kids, I got a job, I got a husband,

2876
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,879
Speaker 4: I got and for some people, the excitement dies down

2877
02:30:27,920 --> 02:30:29,280
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden it becomes work.

2878
02:30:29,800 --> 02:30:33,080
Speaker 13: You know, I'm sorry I say you, And I was

2879
02:30:33,080 --> 02:30:33,720
Speaker 13: gonna say, I.

2880
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Think it's really important you saying we were the first

2881
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:39,519
Speaker 1: people on Skype, were the first people.

2882
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:40,119
Speaker 4: Doing these things.

2883
02:30:41,080 --> 02:30:43,320
Speaker 1: One of the things I've been thinking about lately is Twitch.

2884
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:45,879
Speaker 1: If you're all familiar with Twitch, most people think of

2885
02:30:45,879 --> 02:30:48,000
Speaker 1: it as a streaming platform for video games, but people

2886
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:50,199
Speaker 1: are using it for a lot of different things. Before

2887
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:52,400
Speaker 1: it was Twitch, it was just in TV, which this

2888
02:30:52,480 --> 02:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Week of Blatiness used to.

2889
02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:54,520
Speaker 15: Use for their podcast.

2890
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:58,560
Speaker 1: And Twitch basically formalizes things that these folks have been doing,

2891
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:06,280
Speaker 1: cobbling together platform coddling together Skype and Google hangouts and.

2892
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:07,400
Speaker 4: You know, chat.

2893
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Rooms and Twitter and kind of making it work right.

2894
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:14,280
Speaker 1: And then now we have a platform that is becoming

2895
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:18,279
Speaker 1: more and more popular. People are talking about it superseding YouTube.

2896
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Eventually we'll see. But these folks, I mean, it's part

2897
02:31:24,520 --> 02:31:26,000
Speaker 1: of why I wrote the book that I did, is

2898
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:30,360
Speaker 1: because these folks were pioneers figuring out taking these platforms

2899
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:32,960
Speaker 1: and figuring out how to make them work to do

2900
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:37,480
Speaker 1: the things that they wanted to do, even though those

2901
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:39,960
Speaker 1: things weren't necessarily designed to do that right.

2902
02:31:39,959 --> 02:31:41,360
Speaker 15: And now here we are a few.

2903
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Years later, and it's sort of institutionalized in the internet infrastructure.

2904
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:51,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think for me, the biggest leap for podcasts,

2905
02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:56,040
Speaker 4: which is good and bad, is technology in the Internet.

2906
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:59,200
Speaker 4: Like it has evolved now it is so much easier,

2907
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:03,320
Speaker 4: it's so much simple to do things. And the thing is,

2908
02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 4: I know, for us, right just say, we used to man,

2909
02:32:07,640 --> 02:32:08,640
Speaker 4: I remember when we.

2910
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 2: First did our first live show.

2911
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:12,520
Speaker 4: That was everything. I remember when we got our first

2912
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:16,040
Speaker 4: soundboard and we could actually play stuff, like play stuff

2913
02:32:16,040 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 4: to the audience. We played with that thing. The whole

2914
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:20,520
Speaker 4: show was us just playing the soundboard.

2915
02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 2: The whole show.

2916
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,920
Speaker 4: We got music, you know, we got sound effects, and

2917
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,560
Speaker 4: that was like the running joke. So like we have

2918
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:30,959
Speaker 4: changed and grown and evolved, and our equipment has evolved

2919
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:33,240
Speaker 4: as we have evolved. You know, a lot of people

2920
02:32:33,240 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 4: want to get it.

2921
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:34,760
Speaker 2: I want to spend all this money.

2922
02:32:34,760 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 4: Don't spend all that money. Next week you might not

2923
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:39,320
Speaker 4: want to do it. So it's okay to do free

2924
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:41,400
Speaker 4: It's okay to do hand me down, It's okay to

2925
02:32:41,400 --> 02:32:44,160
Speaker 4: do the thirty dollar mic. Like, that's okay. And as

2926
02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 4: you get committed, you can kind of grow, you know,

2927
02:32:46,760 --> 02:32:49,920
Speaker 4: because you know, we have like condenser MIC's and all

2928
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:52,000
Speaker 4: this other stuff. But we've been doing it for a

2929
02:32:52,160 --> 02:32:55,000
Speaker 4: very long time. And I think sometimes when it comes

2930
02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:57,640
Speaker 4: to podcasts and people want to rush the process because

2931
02:32:57,680 --> 02:33:00,720
Speaker 4: I tell people how you sound today, it's not gonna

2932
02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:02,960
Speaker 4: be how you sound six months from now, how you

2933
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:05,960
Speaker 4: sound a year from now, because you grow, you've alved,

2934
02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:09,440
Speaker 4: you change. This works for me, This doesn't work for me.

2935
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't like my co hosts, we.

2936
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Don't get along.

2937
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 4: You got to go. I got to bring in somebody else,

2938
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:16,680
Speaker 4: or either I might decide I want to do a

2939
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:19,360
Speaker 4: show by myself and just rotate people in, you know.

2940
02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 4: But those are things that you learn as you kind

2941
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:24,720
Speaker 4: of do your own thing. And the biggest thing that

2942
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:28,160
Speaker 4: I found out, particularly being a woman, is finding your voice.

2943
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,400
Speaker 4: Because what I realized Persten in the NPR and all

2944
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:35,920
Speaker 4: these other places, women get the most complaints on their voices.

2945
02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:37,720
Speaker 4: NPR says they have actually have like.

2946
02:33:37,640 --> 02:33:40,119
Speaker 2: A mailbox and it'll like grun and it.

2947
02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:42,760
Speaker 4: Be like if somebody women's voice, they just automatics an email.

2948
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:44,760
Speaker 4: We understand that you're writing because you don't like a

2949
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:47,320
Speaker 4: women's voice. We don't get these emails for men's voices.

2950
02:33:47,560 --> 02:33:49,600
Speaker 4: So you know, like like, so, so that goes to

2951
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:51,960
Speaker 4: show for a lot of women that are very scared.

2952
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:54,640
Speaker 4: So I know, for me, I look for women's voices,

2953
02:33:55,160 --> 02:33:58,440
Speaker 4: you know, because most voices I'm men, which is fine,

2954
02:33:58,920 --> 02:34:01,840
Speaker 4: but there are women, women that are actually podcast listeners

2955
02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:05,959
Speaker 4: that want to hear about having babies, children, birth, reproductive

2956
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:08,440
Speaker 4: women's They want to hear about these things. And I'm

2957
02:34:08,440 --> 02:34:11,080
Speaker 4: not knocking the men. Most men aren't going to touch

2958
02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:13,959
Speaker 4: those topics and they're not going to research those topics

2959
02:34:14,320 --> 02:34:15,840
Speaker 4: or either a lot of times that they do, they

2960
02:34:15,920 --> 02:34:20,640
Speaker 4: don't bring women's experts in to discuss and have nuanced topics.

2961
02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:22,840
Speaker 4: Because me as a woman, when I listen to podcasts,

2962
02:34:23,600 --> 02:34:25,840
Speaker 4: if it's all men a lot of time, what I

2963
02:34:25,959 --> 02:34:30,040
Speaker 4: realize is that not all the time, but it becomes

2964
02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:32,560
Speaker 4: more of locker room talk where you just have a

2965
02:34:32,600 --> 02:34:36,600
Speaker 4: bunch of dudes talking about dude stuff, and sometimes they forget.

2966
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Women are listening, so they for everything.

2967
02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:42,040
Speaker 4: And it goes for women too. Sometimes women can talk

2968
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:44,560
Speaker 4: and don't realize that they're men listening. But for most

2969
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:46,800
Speaker 4: of the women, you don't modulized group. So a lot

2970
02:34:46,800 --> 02:34:49,320
Speaker 4: of times you're telling men things that they normally don't hear.

2971
02:34:49,360 --> 02:34:53,080
Speaker 4: It's almost like they're sneaking in on your conversation about children,

2972
02:34:53,120 --> 02:34:55,000
Speaker 4: about how I'm tired today and you're getting on my

2973
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:56,320
Speaker 4: nerves and I want to cush.

2974
02:34:56,120 --> 02:34:58,000
Speaker 2: You out, and the baby, the baby threw.

2975
02:34:57,920 --> 02:35:00,160
Speaker 4: Up on me and all this stuff. Men don't get

2976
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:00,480
Speaker 4: to hear those.

2977
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:02,440
Speaker 2: For the record, I wasn't going there. I was going

2978
02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:05,959
Speaker 2: to opposite away. All women talking this no problem. But

2979
02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 2: like if there's like straight people, right, since had people right,

2980
02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:11,920
Speaker 2: we have certain privileges and stuff we're not even aware of. Right,

2981
02:35:11,959 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 2: if there's all men talking, all one race group talking

2982
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:17,800
Speaker 2: like all kinds of stuff, so able body people, right,

2983
02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 2: there's like all these different intersections and we all kind

2984
02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:23,160
Speaker 2: of take them for granted. So you know, it's kind

2985
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:26,760
Speaker 2: of difficult to put yourself in someone else's shoes. But

2986
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:29,680
Speaker 2: there's so much information out there now we can educate ourselves.

2987
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:32,320
Speaker 2: So in the same way that we're not academics, I

2988
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:34,480
Speaker 2: think it's also kind of proof that, like you can

2989
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:36,959
Speaker 2: learn about stuff without having to like go to a

2990
02:35:36,959 --> 02:35:41,560
Speaker 2: class necessarily. Right, the internet is free. Like, as much

2991
02:35:41,560 --> 02:35:44,039
Speaker 2: as people deride social media, you learn a lot through

2992
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:46,400
Speaker 2: social media. You know a lot of the what we

2993
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:48,560
Speaker 2: do as a show. It's kind of the wild wild

2994
02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:51,960
Speaker 2: West because sometimes we step out feeding stuff and we're like,

2995
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:53,680
Speaker 2: nobody has done this before, let's try it, you know.

2996
02:35:53,840 --> 02:35:57,640
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of the whole spirit of the

2997
02:35:57,680 --> 02:35:59,119
Speaker 2: black podcasts and stuff that we do.

2998
02:35:59,879 --> 02:36:02,320
Speaker 14: Just a couple of things I wanted to know when

2999
02:36:02,360 --> 02:36:09,360
Speaker 14: they say they've been doing a lot of podcasting TVTWT,

3000
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:12,440
Speaker 14: I said earlier it was seventeen seventy nine.

3001
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 15: I was wrong. It's seventeen seventy seven.

3002
02:36:16,879 --> 02:36:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh god.

3003
02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:23,680
Speaker 1: So that's gonnamber An episode seventeen hundred and seventy seven

3004
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:29,560
Speaker 1: episodes of their flag ships. It's not counting premiums, that's

3005
02:36:29,720 --> 02:36:30,960
Speaker 1: just flagship show.

3006
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:33,119
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's like close to over one thousand

3007
02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:34,760
Speaker 4: behind the paywall. Yeah.

3008
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,000
Speaker 2: And then like we guessed on people shows to a

3009
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:39,879
Speaker 2: lot yea, which is something that specifically when we were

3010
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:43,520
Speaker 2: starting that was some black shit because we had to

3011
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 2: write because we didn't really have the end socially too

3012
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:50,600
Speaker 2: bigger podcasts, So I can't be like, hey, Mike Mark Marin,

3013
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:55,080
Speaker 2: how at your boy? Like he's like right, So, like

3014
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 2: we had to kind of make ourselves hot, right, So

3015
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:01,760
Speaker 2: it's like you might have twenty people listening a show.

3016
02:37:01,959 --> 02:37:05,560
Speaker 2: I might have ten. They might not all be listening

3017
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:07,680
Speaker 2: to both of our shows. We should work together and

3018
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:09,959
Speaker 2: maybe some of them will stay and stuff like that.

3019
02:37:10,120 --> 02:37:13,480
Speaker 2: And as you gets more successful in Build, I'll get

3020
02:37:13,480 --> 02:37:16,959
Speaker 2: more successful in Build, and we keep these these relationships.

3021
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean for years. Some of these people are my

3022
02:37:18,440 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 2: best friends now. And it just started because we were like,

3023
02:37:21,560 --> 02:37:23,520
Speaker 2: hey man, you know, I love your show. It would

3024
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:25,680
Speaker 2: be cool if we were like on there together talking shit.

3025
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:27,360
Speaker 2: And it was like, yeah, well not, let's figure out

3026
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:30,360
Speaker 2: the technology to do that. And we really did have

3027
02:37:30,360 --> 02:37:32,000
Speaker 2: to figure it out. But once we figured it out,

3028
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:34,600
Speaker 2: we just consistently did that. And so a large part

3029
02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:38,880
Speaker 2: of as with a lot of black pioneer type stuff,

3030
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:41,680
Speaker 2: a lot of it's just community based, right, So, like

3031
02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:46,240
Speaker 2: what we do well, our friends enjoy as well. It's

3032
02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:49,640
Speaker 2: not like a competition as opposed to what a lot

3033
02:37:49,640 --> 02:37:53,039
Speaker 2: of you know, a lot of any media becomes competitive.

3034
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:55,240
Speaker 2: It's oh you got this that means I didn't get

3035
02:37:55,280 --> 02:37:58,240
Speaker 2: this thing. To us, We're like, oh my god, did

3036
02:37:58,280 --> 02:38:00,720
Speaker 2: you hear what happened? And so and so that's so great,

3037
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, like because their success is still our success

3038
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 2: right now, Like someone will hear about them for the

3039
02:38:06,959 --> 02:38:10,840
Speaker 2: first time because they won an award at the iHeartRadio Awards,

3040
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,520
Speaker 2: and then that person will listen to them for a

3041
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 2: while and they'll go, who's this other show they keep

3042
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:18,680
Speaker 2: talking about? You know, the same thing. When we talk

3043
02:38:18,760 --> 02:38:21,000
Speaker 2: on our show, we try to make sure we name

3044
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:24,640
Speaker 2: and mention the sources of like anything we've heard. So

3045
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 2: like if I got the phrase tanking right, which is pedantic, right,

3046
02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:32,680
Speaker 2: if that means somebody messed something up, and we make

3047
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:34,360
Speaker 2: a joke about how you mess that thing up? Right,

3048
02:38:34,400 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 2: We got that from a podcast called Firestarter firestarter dot

3049
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:40,000
Speaker 2: com podcast. I try to mention it every single time

3050
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 2: because someone's listening, They're like, that's a funny concept. I'm

3051
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:46,480
Speaker 2: gonna go check out what those guys are talking about.

3052
02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:51,280
Speaker 2: They may never come back to us, right, I'm completely

3053
02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:53,360
Speaker 2: happy for that. I want people to find their podcast

3054
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:55,879
Speaker 2: matches out there, like just swiping left and right. So

3055
02:38:56,440 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 2: I hope that that that change. Like these changes when

3056
02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:03,120
Speaker 2: we started were things I didn't see people doing. But

3057
02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:06,280
Speaker 2: now it's almost routine, you know, and bigger than us now.

3058
02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:09,039
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I hear like a major podcast be like

3059
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:10,800
Speaker 2: we only take five star reviews I'm like, they don't

3060
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:12,680
Speaker 2: even know where they got that from. But I know

3061
02:39:12,760 --> 02:39:14,160
Speaker 2: for a fact we were the first people to be like,

3062
02:39:14,200 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 2: don't you write no bullshit of it?

3063
02:39:15,920 --> 02:39:19,600
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, they're not stars, right, we will read it, lie,

3064
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:22,000
Speaker 4: but we've got to like it and our feelings will

3065
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:24,039
Speaker 4: get hurt, you know. So it's one of those things

3066
02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:26,280
Speaker 4: I think for us as we begin to grow and

3067
02:39:26,320 --> 02:39:29,640
Speaker 4: as we begin to evolve. And also the thing about me,

3068
02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:31,760
Speaker 4: when we first started, like I said, I didn't know

3069
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:34,760
Speaker 4: if there were rules of regulations to podcasting. You're like literally,

3070
02:39:34,920 --> 02:39:36,720
Speaker 4: because I was like, well, can I cuss? Can I

3071
02:39:36,760 --> 02:39:41,199
Speaker 4: not cuss? Because the biggest problem people have they think

3072
02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:43,960
Speaker 4: of podcasts as media, which it is, but they think

3073
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:47,280
Speaker 4: of standard media. They think of radio, they think of television,

3074
02:39:47,320 --> 02:39:49,879
Speaker 4: they think of all these things that are constantly pushed

3075
02:39:49,879 --> 02:39:52,560
Speaker 4: in front of them. But the thing about podcasting, they

3076
02:39:52,560 --> 02:39:56,200
Speaker 4: all know rules. You can cuss, you can talk about

3077
02:39:56,240 --> 02:39:59,879
Speaker 4: your sexuality, you can tell all these great stories.

3078
02:40:00,120 --> 02:40:01,039
Speaker 2: You you don't have.

3079
02:40:00,959 --> 02:40:03,039
Speaker 4: To be a scholar, you don't have to have degrees,

3080
02:40:03,480 --> 02:40:06,240
Speaker 4: you know, to be on this platform.

3081
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:06,840
Speaker 2: You know.

3082
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:09,400
Speaker 4: So I think I begin to go any and I

3083
02:40:09,440 --> 02:40:12,000
Speaker 4: think the funny thing for me is that who I

3084
02:40:12,040 --> 02:40:14,400
Speaker 4: am now is not who I used to be, because

3085
02:40:14,440 --> 02:40:16,240
Speaker 4: it would be funny when people go back and they

3086
02:40:16,280 --> 02:40:18,640
Speaker 4: hear old shows, they hear it now, Like I think

3087
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:22,160
Speaker 4: over the years, back to finding my voice, like I

3088
02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:25,680
Speaker 4: began to be more opinionated, I began to speak up.

3089
02:40:25,959 --> 02:40:28,039
Speaker 4: I began to let people know I disagree that's not

3090
02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:32,480
Speaker 4: how I feel. You know, I've learned how to I

3091
02:40:32,520 --> 02:40:34,920
Speaker 4: don't want to say debate, but I've learned how to

3092
02:40:35,120 --> 02:40:37,960
Speaker 4: stand on my ground with something if I disagree with it.

3093
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:40,920
Speaker 2: It's funny too, because we would do the show back

3094
02:40:41,080 --> 02:40:42,680
Speaker 2: like when we first started, and then like the show

3095
02:40:42,680 --> 02:40:45,200
Speaker 2: will be over and I'd be like Karen because she

3096
02:40:45,360 --> 02:40:47,160
Speaker 2: go off like I after show, she like, oh and

3097
02:40:47,200 --> 02:40:51,680
Speaker 2: when he said this, I was like, hell no, So

3098
02:40:51,760 --> 02:40:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, why didn't you do this when we're recording?

3099
02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:58,480
Speaker 2: This is exactly exactly what I'm talking about now. It's like,

3100
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:01,200
Speaker 2: but it does take people time to step into that right.

3101
02:41:01,560 --> 02:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Like I would say, also, be gentle with yourself when

3102
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:06,800
Speaker 2: you start, because what you're doing to start, you're gonna

3103
02:41:06,800 --> 02:41:09,240
Speaker 2: be nervous. You don't know the rules, right, you don't

3104
02:41:09,280 --> 02:41:11,680
Speaker 2: know how you're gonna develop. And then when you hit

3105
02:41:11,720 --> 02:41:14,320
Speaker 2: that rhythm when you start like going, this is cool.

3106
02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:16,959
Speaker 2: This is a concept that no one else has. You

3107
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:19,480
Speaker 2: might not start off with a snazzy concept that no

3108
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:21,959
Speaker 2: one else has, but you might be like game show

3109
02:41:21,959 --> 02:41:25,560
Speaker 2: movie review. You might not have that until ten episodes

3110
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:27,160
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, we should change this to a

3111
02:41:27,160 --> 02:41:29,880
Speaker 2: game show. Now you got something that if you would

3112
02:41:29,920 --> 02:41:31,760
Speaker 2: have quit at eight episodes because you were like this

3113
02:41:31,959 --> 02:41:34,960
Speaker 2: born no one's listening, you would have never got that brilliant.

3114
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:36,360
Speaker 2: So I think that's a big part of it.

3115
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And one more thing too.

3116
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:42,080
Speaker 4: What I realized is when you first start, you're gonna

3117
02:41:42,080 --> 02:41:44,160
Speaker 4: feel like you're talking into a void because when you

3118
02:41:44,200 --> 02:41:46,520
Speaker 4: first start, you just putting it out there. You don't

3119
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:49,520
Speaker 4: know who's listening, who's not listening, particularly with the Internet,

3120
02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:51,800
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you'll start getting little feedbacks

3121
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:54,879
Speaker 4: on social media. You'll start getting a Twitter, Hey I

3122
02:41:54,959 --> 02:41:57,000
Speaker 4: like to show a Facebook and you be like, oh,

3123
02:41:57,240 --> 02:41:58,360
Speaker 4: people are actually listening.

3124
02:41:58,400 --> 02:41:58,600
Speaker 5: I'm not.

3125
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:00,560
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm in a black pit anymore,

3126
02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:01,920
Speaker 4: just putting my voice up.

3127
02:42:01,920 --> 02:42:04,560
Speaker 2: And you have to cultivate that go where your go,

3128
02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:06,640
Speaker 2: where your feedback is coming.

3129
02:42:06,640 --> 02:42:06,840
Speaker 9: From.

3130
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:10,400
Speaker 2: So if it's coming off of Facebook, interact to Facebook.

3131
02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:13,600
Speaker 2: Maybe start a Facebook group if you're if it's coming

3132
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:16,360
Speaker 2: off of Twitter, go back and forth to people on Twitter.

3133
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:20,000
Speaker 2: It's where it is, like, it could be in reviews,

3134
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:21,959
Speaker 2: it could be everywhere. So you have to kind of

3135
02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:24,640
Speaker 2: chase it when you first start, and eventually, if you

3136
02:42:24,640 --> 02:42:26,680
Speaker 2: build up enough, people will come to wherever you want

3137
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:28,240
Speaker 2: it to go. So like, hey, just email me, go

3138
02:42:28,280 --> 02:42:30,600
Speaker 2: to my website. But it doesn't really start like that.

3139
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:32,640
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, do not count on your

3140
02:42:32,680 --> 02:42:34,000
Speaker 2: friends to be listening.

3141
02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:39,240
Speaker 4: And ships don't.

3142
02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know what you think.

3143
02:42:41,160 --> 02:42:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so don't like, don't don't don't be disappointed. What

3144
02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:46,280
Speaker 4: are you talking about?

3145
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Like, if I wanted to know that ship, I would

3146
02:42:47,680 --> 02:42:50,560
Speaker 2: ask you their opinion about that. We don't talk basketball.

3147
02:42:50,600 --> 02:42:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm not listening to your podcast, right, So you like

3148
02:42:53,320 --> 02:42:55,959
Speaker 2: you have to you have to approach it that this

3149
02:42:56,080 --> 02:42:58,840
Speaker 2: is a product that is going out as well as

3150
02:42:58,840 --> 02:43:01,440
Speaker 2: being mostly your Oh, it's still a product that's going

3151
02:43:01,480 --> 02:43:02,800
Speaker 2: out to a lot of people out there.

3152
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:06,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to add to what Karen said about

3153
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:10,440
Speaker 1: podcasting being sort of the wild wild West and people

3154
02:43:10,480 --> 02:43:15,000
Speaker 1: thinking about it as a media object. As media content,

3155
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:17,160
Speaker 1: and it is. But one of the things that I

3156
02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:20,160
Speaker 1: think is unique about their podcasts and the other podcasts

3157
02:43:20,200 --> 02:43:24,320
Speaker 1: that are related to them, that whole podcast family is

3158
02:43:24,760 --> 02:43:27,400
Speaker 1: if you look at the reviews and if you talk

3159
02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:30,120
Speaker 1: to the listeners, the words that come up over and

3160
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:32,800
Speaker 1: over again are it's like the barbershop, It's like the

3161
02:43:32,840 --> 02:43:35,200
Speaker 1: beauty shop, it's like being at church, it's like being

3162
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:36,360
Speaker 1: with my auntie and my uncle.

3163
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:36,920
Speaker 4: Right.

3164
02:43:37,280 --> 02:43:42,600
Speaker 1: And what is happening is people are hearing this informal conversation, right.

3165
02:43:42,640 --> 02:43:44,280
Speaker 4: These choices to be so.

3166
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:49,039
Speaker 1: Informal and not conform to these radio formats. It's not

3167
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:51,640
Speaker 1: a lack of professionalism. It we just don't know how

3168
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:56,120
Speaker 1: to do better. It's a deliberate choice to cultivate this

3169
02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of conversation that then people are listening to and

3170
02:43:59,240 --> 02:44:03,080
Speaker 1: they're hearing the cookout with their family. They're hearing these

3171
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:07,920
Speaker 1: conversations that happen in these explicitly black spaces. And if

3172
02:44:07,920 --> 02:44:09,920
Speaker 1: you look at the feedback from listeners, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks who are the only black person in

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Speaker 1: their office, right, and they just.

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Speaker 15: Take those headphones and they put them in.

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Speaker 1: There's My favorite review is that this show could be

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Speaker 1: called should be called dealing with white people. They take

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Speaker 1: those headphones and suddenly it sounds like home, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like family, it sounds like friends.

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Speaker 15: And that's a different goal.

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Speaker 1: Right then, I want to make a you know, a

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Speaker 1: narrative podcast that you know is very polished. Both are good,

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Speaker 1: but this is a very very different goal, and people

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Speaker 1: respond to it in a particular way, which is either

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Speaker 1: what is this, I'm gonna go listen to cereal? Or like,

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Speaker 1: like Bandy said, I sid I didn't know I was

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Speaker 1: holding in right,