Speaker 1: Welcome to the No Dunks podcast series Squad, the show
Speaker 1: where we draft teams like we're the general manager. The
Speaker 1: only catch that very specific draft pool we're working with.
Speaker 1: I'm jay E Skeets here in the Classic Factory aka
Speaker 1: the war Room along with my rival GMS. We got Tasks,
Speaker 1: we got Trey, we got the man making the magic
Speaker 1: hap in JD and our fifth GM. Today, our special
Speaker 1: guest is the reason for today's episode. He's the New
Speaker 1: York Knicks beat reporter at the Athletic. He's returning to
Speaker 1: No Dunks for the second, maybe third time. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It's Fred Katz. What's up, Fred.
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled to be here. I've said to you guys,
Speaker 2: I think on this podcast and definitely off it that
Speaker 2: this is my favorite basketball podcast of all time. So
Speaker 2: I am thrilled to be a part of it. And
Speaker 2: I am so thrilled to talk about fruit. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's a crazy part. Yeah. Today's draft theme
Speaker 1: inspired by the numerous conversations that we had with Fred
Speaker 1: in Vegas over summer League. We're talking fruit, We're talking
Speaker 1: Harry Potter characters. We came up with a few more,
Speaker 1: but today's squad. Fred, we are drafting what we're calling
Speaker 1: the Fredkatz Pack. How do you feel about this honor?
Speaker 2: I feel I feel really honored. I will say, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I love the idea of pack. When
Speaker 2: it comes to fruit, there's some fruits you just don't
Speaker 2: want in a pack. Need them fresh, you need them out.
Speaker 2: You don't even want them in the fridge, let alone
Speaker 2: the pack. You want them out and a bowl. They're
Speaker 2: gonna lose ten to fifteen percent of their flavor for
Speaker 2: every hour that they're getting cold. Like, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I'm into pack. I think we need a better, a
Speaker 2: better word for it, but I'm into the concept.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not drafting. We're not just drafting fruit. Fred,
Speaker 1: I know you want to.
Speaker 3: We had that discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have no categories.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, wait, we're just drafting for you. Guys can
Speaker 2: draft whatever you want, whatever other category we take. I'm
Speaker 2: just bringing up Guama, Okay, we do.
Speaker 1: We do have five different categories to draft from. In
Speaker 1: the first round, we'll be drafting the best fruit. That
Speaker 1: was quite a topic in Vegas with our guy Fred Katz.
Speaker 1: In the second round, we'll be drafting the best Harry
Speaker 1: Potter character. Pretty self explanatory. Again, my favorite moment for
Speaker 1: Vegas Trey Kirby and Fred Kats yelling about Harry Potter
Speaker 1: characters in a bar in the third round. Cool grown
Speaker 1: up guys. Stuff. Yeah. In the third round, we'll be
Speaker 1: drafting a New York Knicks legend, obviously inspired by Fred
Speaker 1: Katz on the Knicks beat. In the fourth round, meow,
Speaker 1: we'll be drafting a famous cat. Now, these can be
Speaker 1: real feelines, cartoon characters, historic cats. But I would like
Speaker 1: to say, like I would like to say, right now,
Speaker 1: get out of here with your tiger play or your
Speaker 1: puma play or your lion play. I think we got
Speaker 1: to draw the line there. How do you feel about that? Fred?
Speaker 2: I feel I feel really good about that, because what
Speaker 2: you can't you can't bring. You can't bring like lions
Speaker 2: into can't can't draft Simba exactly, just defeats the spirit of.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, everybody's nodding, everybody's.
Speaker 4: You gotta want to be able to pet this cat.
Speaker 3: And catwoman.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: But I do think I do think we need to
Speaker 2: get creative on it. I don't think we can just
Speaker 2: go like house cats like, No, we're talking famous cat,
Speaker 2: I think like, I think like drafting Karl Anthony Towns
Speaker 2: is in play. You know what about Jamal MC? You
Speaker 2: can go for it.
Speaker 1: And in the final and fifth round, we're gonna draft
Speaker 1: fake names okay, also known as like pen names, stage names,
Speaker 1: the old nome de plume. This random category is inspired
Speaker 1: by the fact that Fred's real name is not Fred.
Speaker 1: That blew our mind when we learn that, So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later. So yes, fruit,
Speaker 1: Harry Potter, characters, Nick's legend, famous cats, and fake names.
Speaker 1: The rules to this we always do the official no
Speaker 1: dunks rules. All five of us will get the number
Speaker 1: one pick in one of the five rounds. We're gonna
Speaker 1: draft our squads. We're gonna debate our selections, possibly make
Speaker 1: a trade or two. It's been known to happen. It
Speaker 1: makes things terribly confusing, but if you want to trade,
Speaker 1: throw it out there. And in the end, listeners and
Speaker 1: YouTube subscribers, all of our watchers will ultimately decide who
Speaker 1: has the best Fred Katz pack aka fruit bowl or
Speaker 1: what do we call it?
Speaker 4: Produce?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, Cat's basket.
Speaker 5: Although Fred Fred in Las Vegas had his fruit in
Speaker 5: the hotel room ice bucket.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, well, game, they don't want to
Speaker 4: regggerate your fruits.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: They're not exactly giving you a nice fruit basket for
Speaker 2: ambiance in your hotel room. So when you're a huge
Speaker 2: partier like me, and you spend your first night in
Speaker 2: Vegas going to Whole Foods to buy the cheaper version
Speaker 2: of aluminum foil so you can properly wrap your sandwiches
Speaker 2: to go to the game, and you happen to pick
Speaker 2: up some bananas and some pluots and some peaches while
Speaker 2: you're there. You want to have a nice little ambiance
Speaker 2: when you get into the room, and the best thing
Speaker 2: that you can do is the ice bucket. So I
Speaker 2: washed out the ice bucket and put some fruit in there,
Speaker 2: and you know what it was. It gave a really
Speaker 2: a really a really nice nice vibe upon entering the room.
Speaker 2: And they were they were delicious.
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking out there, everyone, Yeah, Fred
Speaker 1: Kats is a monster in things. Guy's unhinged. He's an animal. Okay.
Speaker 1: We determined the draft order earlier in the week, and
Speaker 1: I'm happy to say, Fred, you have the rights to
Speaker 1: the first overall, pick in best fruit. You're on the clock.
Speaker 2: This is going to destroy man. I can't believe.
Speaker 3: This must be hard.
Speaker 2: This is like asking the octomom who you were a
Speaker 2: favorite child?
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think you could have gone twenty
Speaker 4: five deep on fruits? Like if we drafted five rounds
Speaker 4: of fruit with five.
Speaker 1: Not even not even a question.
Speaker 4: I can't get me the big board afterwards.
Speaker 2: Twenty five deep?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: I go twenty five deep a day, just like I
Speaker 2: feel like people need like I have like a fruit problem.
Speaker 2: Like there are people who love fruit. There are people
Speaker 2: who like fruit. When I say I love fruit and
Speaker 2: I eat a lot of fruit, the reaction that you
Speaker 2: normally people says, oh, that's very healthy, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's extremely unhealthy. It's so unhealthy. I will eat so
Speaker 2: much fruit in one sitting, Like I'll just casually just
Speaker 2: knock out a pack of blackberries, a pack of strawberries,
Speaker 2: a pack of raspberries, a couple of peaches, a couple
Speaker 2: of plums, and then I'll just like go about my
Speaker 2: day and I'll come back later and I'll eat an
Speaker 2: entire watermelon for no reason at all. It's disgusting. It's
Speaker 2: a real problem.
Speaker 5: Are you gonna get up and go to the bathroom
Speaker 5: every five minutes during this podcast?
Speaker 2: No, I think my body, Like really, I think I
Speaker 2: think my body's done the opposite where it's gotten so
Speaker 2: used to it actually settles my stomach. I'll be like,
Speaker 2: I need to settle my stomach. I'm just gonna eat
Speaker 2: a bunch of high fiber fruits just to settle my
Speaker 2: stomach and I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this was difficult picking your favorite or best.
Speaker 2: Yes it was, And I do need to qualify, at
Speaker 2: least for the audience and maybe for myself, that we
Speaker 2: are going with the same the same room that we
Speaker 2: went with in Vegas, which is we're not going like
Speaker 2: all fruit products, right, Like if I take apple, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting apple pie, right, it's just raw biting into
Speaker 2: the Yeah I.
Speaker 1: Think you're getting I think you're getting raw fruit. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, right, because you could get into like what
Speaker 1: you can do with that particular fruit, like Fred said,
Speaker 1: but I think just like eating the fruit itself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way we're going here Vegas.
Speaker 2: Okay, great.
Speaker 6: Way.
Speaker 4: This is what Greg Papavinch was doing when he was Bampit.
Speaker 4: Everybody knew you were taking web.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Like all the big guys out there, they're all good,
Speaker 5: but I have no idea what.
Speaker 1: I don't know where Fred's going. Yeah, that's I'm intrigued. No.
Speaker 2: Greg Papovic was actually sitting there being like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I love strawberries, and that is actually going to be
Speaker 2: my pick. I considered, I considered raspberries. I love raspberries.
Speaker 2: The best version of raspberries is amazing. But the problem
Speaker 2: is raspberries are like John Carlos stand there. They they
Speaker 2: are either streaking like crazy. You get a good raspberry
Speaker 2: and it is like nothing else. But the problem is
Speaker 2: number one, they go bad really quickly yea. And number
Speaker 2: two they sometimes they're deceiving. That's that's the thing with raspberries.
Speaker 2: It's you can look at raspberries and be like because
Speaker 2: it's all about the firmness with the raspberry. You know,
Speaker 2: if it's firm, you're good, like with a grape like
Speaker 2: you know, if it's crunchy, you're good, or an orange
Speaker 2: you know, if it's heavy, it's good like, you're good
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 4: It's like, look, we're not drafting twenty five fruits, but
Speaker 4: i'mmachining twenty five fruits.
Speaker 2: But with raspberries, the problem is that you can look
Speaker 2: at them and you can be in the store and
Speaker 2: you can be like, oh, these are the good raspberries.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while to get back and you're like,
Speaker 2: why does it Why is this so mushy?
Speaker 1: It looks so firm.
Speaker 2: What's happening here? And then when it's mushy, it's too tart,
Speaker 2: and you're just annoy and you kind of you can't
Speaker 2: even really savor it. You gotta be like, I just
Speaker 2: gotta get this thing down, and that can't be my
Speaker 2: first pick.
Speaker 4: To me.
Speaker 2: That's like if I have a later pick that's like
Speaker 2: a great like high ceiling, low floor wrist that I
Speaker 2: might want to take, But I gotta go strawberry. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's extremely consistent amongst fruit, Like like I love nectarines,
Speaker 2: but you can only get them in the summer, you know.
Speaker 2: Like strawberries are very consistent. They're extremely delicious. They're actually
Speaker 2: quite filling. Uh, if you if you throw down two
Speaker 2: packs of strawberries, you might be full. So I I
Speaker 2: I I think I'm gonna have to go strawberries, Bananas
Speaker 2: aren't juicy enough. Oranges are delicious, Mangoes are great, but
Speaker 2: again a little more seasonal, and and and and. Pineapple
Speaker 2: is great, but you don't eat the whole pineapple, which means,
Speaker 2: by definition, the whole pineapple is not as good as
Speaker 2: the whole strawberry.
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna ask strawberry, do you do you
Speaker 1: slice off the little leafy part the top art or
Speaker 1: do you just do straight chomped to it? Or are
Speaker 1: you a madman and just eat the entire thing?
Speaker 2: I straight, a straight chomp. I'm a straight straight chomp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then remove the top or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, straight chomp. I don't have the patience
Speaker 2: to cut it. I see a strawberry, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have the patience to slice it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta say, I didn't see strawberry going number
Speaker 1: one from Fred.
Speaker 3: Now, it wasn't even it wasn't even on my board.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, really, wow, I knew it was going
Speaker 3: to be a berry.
Speaker 1: After time, we did learn he tipped he loves a berry,
Speaker 1: and and he told us the reasons he didn't go
Speaker 1: raspberry and ultimately went strawberry.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I love the I love the passionate explanation there, Fred
Speaker 1: breaking down why strawberry is your number one pick. I
Speaker 1: think that's going to shock some people. But Tray, you're
Speaker 1: next up here. Let's keep it going. You have the
Speaker 1: second pick and best fruit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big pick. I didn't have strawberry
Speaker 4: on my draft board either. Task we did have a
Speaker 4: great time picking fresh strawberries once upon a time, strawberry
Speaker 4: straight off or whatever. Oh, and they're one, They're good.
Speaker 4: You did mention my top three fruits on my draft board, Fred,
Speaker 4: and you kind of took a sidehand shot at one
Speaker 4: of them. If I'm being quite honest here, you call
Speaker 4: it a seasonal fruit. But with the number two pick,
Speaker 4: I'm going with the mango. Oh wow, okay, what a
Speaker 4: beautiful fruit. From the outside, it's reddish and greenish. You
Speaker 4: cut it open, bright orange. Yeah, it's pretty, very pretty.
Speaker 4: You can get a weird mango, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: But I love the way it's often cut, where you
Speaker 4: cut off one cheek of it, then you do like
Speaker 4: the little crosshatch thing both ways. You pop it out
Speaker 4: and it's just like little mango sticks emerging from the
Speaker 4: r that's so good. And one of my favorite gross
Speaker 4: things to do is when Laura has perhaps cut up
Speaker 4: a mango, she's given it to somebody else and she said, here,
Speaker 4: you want to gnaw on the seed, and she just
Speaker 4: hands me that slippery, thick seed from the middle of it,
Speaker 4: tear off a little bit of rind on the outside,
Speaker 4: and just sounded disgusting. Oh, but it is so good.
Speaker 4: Give me the mango at number two.
Speaker 1: Okay, Fred, you have thoughts. You already called it a
Speaker 1: seasonal fruit.
Speaker 2: I do have thoughts. I love mangoes. They're delicious, top
Speaker 2: top five maybe top three fruit. They're fantastic. It's a
Speaker 2: good pick. The reason you can't go with the number
Speaker 2: one is because, look, we're taking viability and practicality into
Speaker 2: this and mangoes. You notice Trey's language, passive voice, the
Speaker 2: way it's cut, as if someone else is cutting it
Speaker 2: for him, Like Trey is not the mango cutter in
Speaker 2: the households and mangoes are mangoes, And yeah they are
Speaker 2: so I mean cutting it is a process. It is
Speaker 2: a pain. And also, yeah, Trey, like when you're when
Speaker 2: you're sounds like your wife treats you like a dog.
Speaker 2: By the way on the ground, and it gets when
Speaker 2: you do that. I agree, it's delicious. I love mango.
Speaker 2: I agree. It's a top three, top five fruit. It's
Speaker 2: a good pick, but gets caught in your teeth too much.
Speaker 2: It does the process of eating mango is is not
Speaker 2: nearly as good or as easy as just popping in
Speaker 2: a strawberry.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't deny it.
Speaker 4: I can't deny it. But look, man, am I cutting
Speaker 4: every mango in my house?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Am I cutting the majority of them? No, but probably
Speaker 4: the third. Don't act like I'm not cutting mangos, okay.
Speaker 4: And when it comes to pineapples, it's the complete opposite.
Speaker 4: I'm cutting most of the pineapples, but I'm not choosing
Speaker 4: it because I gotta cut it usually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't, Okay, So I'm up. I'm up with
Speaker 1: the third pick here. I can't believe pineapple is still
Speaker 1: on the board. But you guys are almost talking me
Speaker 1: out of it, because, yeah, look, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: bitch to cut. You've gotta work for it. I have
Speaker 1: a question before I make my pick, though, how do
Speaker 1: we feel about ap because do I get all apples
Speaker 1: in the apple selection. Is that like all varieties, or
Speaker 1: at least you know your common ones. Get them all,
Speaker 1: then I I cannot overthink it. Then I have to
Speaker 1: take apples numbers.
Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna say, like as if pineapple
Speaker 6: was a type of apple, and you get.
Speaker 1: With the third pick in best fruit. I'm taking apples
Speaker 1: after you confirmed, I get basically all of them. Because
Speaker 1: what I love about this there's an apple for everyone, crunchy, soft, sweet, sour.
Speaker 1: I mean you want to talk about a widely consumed
Speaker 1: fruit globally is I mean we got proverbs about.
Speaker 4: Proverbs.
Speaker 1: An apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm going with.
Speaker 1: I'm going with the the apple here, and I love
Speaker 1: Just for the record, I love a honey crisp. I
Speaker 1: love a macintosh. If you get the right macintosh, that's
Speaker 1: a good apple. Let's get crazy with the granny smith.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, give me a little tartness,
Speaker 1: so I'll take apple.
Speaker 3: Are you peeling him?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no. A lot of nutrition in that uh,
Speaker 1: in that skin.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: I do like to eat an apple with a knife.
Speaker 1: That's fun. As if I'm like a whittling away, you.
Speaker 6: Know, on the porch especially.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, apple off the board. Pineapple is
Speaker 1: still there.
Speaker 5: Need to clarify, pineapple still on the board. It is, yeah,
Speaker 5: it is family.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talked about it, everybody wants it.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows the scouting report. I haven't seen the medicals.
Speaker 3: You don't know what's inside. You got to do an
Speaker 3: MRI on a pineapple. How do you pick a pineapple? Fred?
Speaker 3: You just pick one pineapple.
Speaker 2: Pineapple is weight as well. Pineapple is like an orange.
Speaker 2: The way the way you do it is if you
Speaker 2: have two oranges. Oranges are color and weight, and pineapples
Speaker 2: are color and weight too. And it also depends on
Speaker 2: when you want to eat the pineapple right, because you
Speaker 2: might you might want to not eat it for two
Speaker 2: days and then you could just let it, let it
Speaker 2: ripe in it, ripen it home, and you might be okay.
Speaker 2: But it's all weight because the heavier it is, it
Speaker 2: means the more juice is in the fruit. So all
Speaker 2: those fruits with like the peels that you're not gonna eat,
Speaker 2: you just want to go on Other than bananas, you
Speaker 2: just want to go on weight because the heavier it is,
Speaker 2: the more juice it is.
Speaker 1: The only the only reason pineapple is. Slipping is just
Speaker 1: the you know, the preparation, because.
Speaker 2: Like pineapple is, it's the most flavorful it is.
Speaker 3: It's almost too flavorful. I'd say, Oh.
Speaker 4: Wow, you can get a little bit of like a
Speaker 4: hurting mouth that you eat too much pineapple, like too
Speaker 4: much sweets. Yeah, definitely, and if you and if you
Speaker 4: cut it a little too shallow, you're definitely getting your
Speaker 4: hurt mouth from the pokeys.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the problem with pineapple is it's not
Speaker 2: just that it's difficult to cut. It has to be
Speaker 2: perfectly cut to be an enjoyable experience, because not only
Speaker 2: are you slicing off the skin, you also have to
Speaker 2: cut out that weird hard inner center, which for some
Speaker 2: reason was created by the fruit gods. I don't know
Speaker 2: why that's there. It's totally just it's just terrible and
Speaker 2: you have to estimate on where it is, and you
Speaker 2: can get pretty good at it. But every once in
Speaker 2: a while you have a little bit of that hard
Speaker 2: inner center and you get in your mouth and you're like,
Speaker 2: h yeah, damn ruined that.
Speaker 4: When I got that core, I'll no, and that like
Speaker 4: a corn cup.
Speaker 5: Pineapple bone. Yeah, I literally, I can't eat too much pineapple.
Speaker 5: And that's why I hear with the fourth pick, there's
Speaker 5: no way I'm taking I need I need high volume.
Speaker 5: I need something that I'm going to want to eat
Speaker 5: a lot of pineapple. I'll have I'll have a little wedge,
Speaker 5: but that's about it. So get out of here, pineapple.
Speaker 5: This is very difficult. I know what JD's taking.
Speaker 3: With the fifth pick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I do, Okay, Yeah, I was in on
Speaker 5: those fruit conversations in Vegas. I I urge you pipe
Speaker 5: in and uh, because that's where I'm beering right now.
Speaker 5: I honestly can't believe bananas on the board.
Speaker 3: Uh when when.
Speaker 5: Talking about watermelon, that's a high volume fruit like I
Speaker 5: could eat, you know, because it's all water. You could
Speaker 5: eat a whole damn watermelon and still be happy. Watermelon
Speaker 5: feta doesn't get much better than that.
Speaker 2: But I'm going tiny.
Speaker 5: We eat fruit for the juice. There's nothing juicier than
Speaker 5: a peach here in the South. I'm taking a peach. Ideally,
Speaker 5: I want.
Speaker 3: A small peach. Yeah it's a that's a homer pick.
Speaker 5: Ideally want a small peach because I want to throw
Speaker 5: the whole thing in my mouth, and I want to
Speaker 5: suck on that pit. That's one of the benefits. Just
Speaker 5: like you're eating that mango board whatever you call that thing.
Speaker 3: Is that a pit? The mango seed is it? It's
Speaker 3: a seed.
Speaker 4: I think it's called a seed, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: It feels like a pit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of yeah, the peach, the peach part of it.
Speaker 5: I'm a little scared to bite into a peach, getting
Speaker 5: those fruit drips. That's that's scary. But yeah, there's there's
Speaker 5: a lot of benefits, but there are some risks with
Speaker 5: a peach.
Speaker 3: But I'm I'm.
Speaker 5: Happy to throw that in there and like Nat and
Speaker 5: nine two, I'm going to the peach pit. I'm having
Speaker 5: to have a good time sucking on that pit. So
Speaker 5: give me a peach.
Speaker 2: Wow, as long as you're not going to the peach
Speaker 2: pit after dark and they're good, that would be too much.
Speaker 2: I need to ask why peach over nectarene?
Speaker 5: Yeah, great question, really great question. Do I almost feel
Speaker 5: like I should get nectarene with a peach? Okay, I'm
Speaker 5: not being I'm being greedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's greedy. That's greedy. You can't because because because
Speaker 2: the the fuzzy versus unfuzzy. That's what is such a
Speaker 2: huge difference. They we can't we can't allow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes in the mood, I'm in the mood for
Speaker 5: a nectarine. That's a great question. I just want to
Speaker 5: be able to sing peaches, peaches, peaches.
Speaker 3: So many songs, so many picha songs.
Speaker 1: Okay, peach off the board, JD. Is your selection still there?
Speaker 1: Do you take pineapple? Where are you going?
Speaker 6: Pineapple still on the board, Banana still love. Yeah, we
Speaker 6: have most of the berries still on the board. But
Speaker 6: I'm going with my heart on this one. I'm going
Speaker 6: for the mighty orange.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: And I know that people are gonna be like, you
Speaker 6: just lost this draft, but I gotta go with my heart.
Speaker 6: I listen, you, guys. I'm not that big of a
Speaker 6: fruit guy. Like if I'm looking at a spread like
Speaker 6: a breakfast buffet, I'm not touching that fruit salad thing.
Speaker 6: I'm not going anywhere near the fruit. It's just I
Speaker 6: don't know, it's too sweet, it's too I don't know,
Speaker 6: there's never oranges. Orange is my favorite fruit. I did
Speaker 6: a lot of soul searching last night, and I just
Speaker 6: came to the conclusion that I just love an orange.
Speaker 6: And yes there's there like tests, there's drips involved.
Speaker 2: I love the drips.
Speaker 1: The drippier, the better.
Speaker 6: Person stand up and eat it. You know, where a
Speaker 6: fruit that you have to actually lean forward and so
Speaker 6: that all of the juice falls down on the ground.
Speaker 6: That's what I want. The sweetest orange. I mean an
Speaker 6: orange as a flavor like orange and chocolate my favorite.
Speaker 6: I know that's polarizing as well, you know, like people
Speaker 6: are gonna think I'm crazy, but yeah, I'm going orange. Sorry, banana, sorry, pineapple,
Speaker 6: Sorry watermelon.
Speaker 3: I though you were going cherries.
Speaker 1: I love a cherry.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 6: It's probably my favorite berry. But just for consistency and
Speaker 6: variety as well, because there are a lot of different
Speaker 6: types of orange. Well, you got the mandarin, you got
Speaker 6: the tangerines. I assume tangerines are involved in that. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: give me but a nice navel orange just from the
Speaker 6: south of US in Florida.
Speaker 3: You're by Homer.
Speaker 1: Are you good? Are ating?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: I'm awesome at it?
Speaker 6: You nails I got well, you know, sometimes.
Speaker 1: Tough to get into an orange.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I'll take an assist with the little pen knife.
Speaker 6: But you know, it's the same kind of thing you
Speaker 6: peel an orange on a peach and just put the
Speaker 6: segment on the tip of the knife and eat it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough guy.
Speaker 5: Okay, fred Let me ask you about the orange. Is
Speaker 5: it somewhat like a raspberry where it's a bit of
Speaker 5: a low floor high ceiling, because you can get some
Speaker 5: bad oranges.
Speaker 2: You can get a bad orange. I like to pick though,
Speaker 2: because because number one, my least favorite pick is definitely
Speaker 2: skeates going apples.
Speaker 1: You don't like an apple. That's insane.
Speaker 2: Apples are I think every fruit that we have named
Speaker 2: I would take over the apple. Apples are a way
Speaker 2: better pick if we're if we're including like products of
Speaker 2: the fruit, if we're including apple sauce and apple pie
Speaker 2: and baked apples and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I love apple. I think it's the best snack. It
Speaker 1: fills me up. It's easier than all of these other
Speaker 1: fruits for the most part in terms of just like
Speaker 1: get it in your body as quick as you can,
Speaker 1: quick rinse and boom, let's go, and hell you know.
Speaker 2: Well, the best part of the apple pick is it's
Speaker 2: portability rating is as high as any other food other
Speaker 2: maybe maybe higher than the banana. Because if you like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're going for a walk somewhere and you're like,
Speaker 2: I'll grab a banana, you still gotta throw out the
Speaker 2: banana peel, and yeah, you gotta throw out the apple core.
Speaker 2: But it's a little more of a process. The bananas
Speaker 2: quicker to eat, and it's annoying to be stuck with
Speaker 2: a banana peel. Feel ridiculous carrying around the banana peel everywhere,
Speaker 2: and you tell yourself, like, this is biodegradable, I can
Speaker 2: drop it, but you just know you're not going to
Speaker 2: It's so rude, and so you gotta find Now, you
Speaker 2: gotta find a garbage when you're out. And it's just
Speaker 2: different with the apple cord. It's a lot of it's
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to carry. So I would say
Speaker 2: apple gets the highest rating for portability. Now I would
Speaker 2: say orange gets a pretty high rating for portability too.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, like, what what Little League team doesn't
Speaker 2: get orange slices? I think I think orange is is
Speaker 2: a good pick. I think fruit first and foremost should
Speaker 2: be refreshing. That's what it is like. That's why when
Speaker 2: everyone goes for ice cream, I'm going for so And
Speaker 2: the reason why is because if it's cold, it should
Speaker 2: be refreshing. It shouldn't be all milky and dairy. That's
Speaker 2: why I don't go near yogurt, because I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are you not refreshing? And I think you can make
Speaker 2: a very good argument that the orange is the most
Speaker 2: refreshing fruit, right up there with the watermelons. It's just
Speaker 2: super super refreshing fruit. Oranges are are delicious. And by
Speaker 2: the way, when all of our fruits are worse in
Speaker 2: like January, ads heading out to his nearest grocery store
Speaker 2: and getting the best orange is possible because they're great
Speaker 2: in the winter.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I do love clementine or something like that around the
Speaker 1: Christmas season. It's a delight. Okay, we got to move
Speaker 1: off of fruit. I can't believe some big names banana, pineapple,
Speaker 1: watermelon still on the board. I love it though. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to our next category here again. This one
Speaker 1: was debated in Vegas the best Harry Potter characters. Trey
Speaker 1: has the number one pick.
Speaker 4: This one's tough. This one's tough. I know Fred's got views,
Speaker 4: and it's tough having the number one pick, Like, do
Speaker 4: you go with your favorite character. Do you go with
Speaker 4: the hero of the story. Do you go with the
Speaker 4: greatest living wizard? Tough to say, tough to say? Do
Speaker 4: you go with the most interesting story? Arc you go
Speaker 4: with the funniest dudes? I think I gotta go with
Speaker 4: the whole bron of the wizarding world. Harry Potter is
Speaker 4: going number one.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at Fred's shaking his hands. This was
Speaker 1: a huge debate in Vegas. Fred, what do you think
Speaker 1: about Harry Potter going number one in this category?
Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Portland Trailblazers for taking Greg Odin. You've
Speaker 2: got to be this. This will go fantastic for real.
Speaker 4: So you're telling me you're picking anybody else besides Harry Potter.
Speaker 4: A child prodigy so good they sent him out of
Speaker 4: their world. Say come back in thirteen years Harry, And
Speaker 4: he did, and he started saying Voldemort and people couldn't
Speaker 4: believe it, and then he vanquished him. Not one time, Fred,
Speaker 4: eight times. The chosen One came through in the clutch,
Speaker 4: time after time after time, using basically two spells. He
Speaker 4: would Aloha, mora you, he would expell he armis you,
Speaker 4: and that's about all he had. The bag was not deep.
Speaker 4: But the guy could improvise. He said, Quarrel, I see
Speaker 4: your faces burning when my hands touch you. What if
Speaker 4: my hands just keep touching you?
Speaker 1: See you later?
Speaker 2: Voldemore.
Speaker 4: He couldn't come back for an entire year. He had
Speaker 4: to come back as a diary ridiculous stuff. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Harry.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the youngest seekers of all time
Speaker 4: a one time made a snitch. Yeah, he caught in
Speaker 4: his mouth, So I gotta go. Harry Potter got to.
Speaker 1: Fred, you're your counter to you again. This was a
Speaker 1: a heated debate in Vegas the idea of Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: You said, I don't want to misquote you, but like
Speaker 1: Harry Potter is the worst character in Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: I did say that. In my defense. It was after
Speaker 2: a few drinks, and I was really just trying to
Speaker 2: piss off try true, And that was basically and I was.
Speaker 2: And once I said it, I was like, well, I I.
Speaker 1: Got it, but.
Speaker 2: Oh my GODNA change my mind in the minimal own
Speaker 2: no way. No, but Harry Potter said, I do believe
Speaker 2: he's a He's a terrible first pick. There are other players.
Speaker 2: There are other players, There are other other prospects with better,
Speaker 2: better story arcs, with better kind of development and growth
Speaker 2: of character throughout the books. Uh, and and who are
Speaker 2: more interesting people? I'm not doubting Harry Potter's ability as
Speaker 2: a wizard, although he is not even the best wizard
Speaker 2: in in uh in the entire book. Look, here's what happens.
Speaker 2: Harry Potter vanquishes Voldemort. I know, but you know who?
Speaker 2: He reminds me of Tass. You're a baseball fan, you'll
Speaker 2: get this. He reminds me of Randy Vollarde. Remember Randy Vallarde? Yep,
Speaker 2: Randy Vallarde real, real good utility infielder for a long
Speaker 2: time in the nineties into like the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: But utility infielder. You know, you know what? You know what?
Speaker 2: Randy Vallardi hit against Randy Johnson in his career. He
Speaker 2: hit over four hundred against Randy Johnson in his career.
Speaker 2: So are we gonna argue Randy Johnson's like maybe the
Speaker 2: best left handed pitcher of all time? So are we
Speaker 2: going to argue that Randy Vollarde is the best hitter
Speaker 2: of all time because he did the best just against
Speaker 2: Randy Johnson, who was the best Harry Potter was amazing
Speaker 2: against Boltimore. The matchup was great. He had all the
Speaker 2: matchup advantages. Every other jam he got into he was
Speaker 2: like Hermione, do your thing.
Speaker 1: So it was a weird, weird analogy.
Speaker 2: But I've got money over over oh Harry, Okay, all right, well,
Speaker 2: Harry Potter going number one.
Speaker 4: Who's the greatest living wizard?
Speaker 2: Dumbledore?
Speaker 4: How many times had he vanquished Boldemort?
Speaker 2: I'm sure Larry Walker struggled against.
Speaker 3: Star Game.
Speaker 1: I do want to see, like, you know, how the
Speaker 1: great social media team at the Athletic will do, like
Speaker 1: those cool graphics with the quote, I do want like
Speaker 1: a photo of Harry Potter and Fred Katz and it
Speaker 1: says Harry Potter is the worst character in Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: And I want them just to tweet that out and
Speaker 1: watch the content engagement go nuts. All right, I'm up
Speaker 1: next in this category. I will admit, guys, I'm not
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter sicko. You know, I'm a casual. I've
Speaker 1: watched I think I've watched the majority of the movies,
Speaker 1: maybe all of them. Never read any of the books.
Speaker 1: I assume they're pretty similar to the movies, but uh
Speaker 1: so so I mean, I know the characters. I got
Speaker 1: a couple in play here, and I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Snape. I think I go with Snape. And
Speaker 1: I was reading about it doing some research, and I
Speaker 1: like this line and it summed up how I feel
Speaker 1: about Snape sort of Within the Harry Potter universe, Snape
Speaker 1: turned into one of the most discussed and debated characters
Speaker 1: from Harry Potter. Is he an evil man with moments
Speaker 1: of good or a good man who has some very
Speaker 1: ugly characteristics or something more complicated altogether? Is that that
Speaker 1: checks out?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Snap's VI? Who are you Snape? Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: pro Harry? Are you anti Harry? Are you good or bad?
Speaker 1: Are you both complicated character? And I mean it's I
Speaker 1: go with him too. Because of the movies. Alan Rickman
Speaker 1: the best, the best actor in the Harry Potter.
Speaker 6: Oh wellable, there's a throughout this series. There are some
Speaker 6: you know, some of the best actors in the world,
Speaker 6: you know, but El Rickman on the short list absolutely
Speaker 6: top five for sure.
Speaker 1: So I am going Snape kats quick thoughts.
Speaker 2: Incredible pick would have been my number one overall pick.
Speaker 2: Not only not only the best character in Harry Potter
Speaker 2: one of the greatest characters in the history of literature. Wow,
Speaker 2: amazing character. You're saying so much death, so so much depth.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is basically Odin going one and then
Speaker 2: Duran going so so much depth. You never know what
Speaker 2: to think of him, and yet you're constantly compelled by him.
Speaker 2: You don't really know his true motives at many different points,
Speaker 2: and when you learn them, it's an incredible reveal. Just
Speaker 2: an amazingly written character. As a writer, you can tell
Speaker 2: when other writers love writing about people, and I just
Speaker 2: am so confident that the JK. Rowling loved writing about Snape. Okay,
Speaker 2: I am so in on Snape. Unbelievable character. Great.
Speaker 1: Great With the third pick in this we go to
Speaker 1: uh to tasks Harry Potter characters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, also not a hairy heead. But this was an
Speaker 5: easy pick for me because once upon a time I
Speaker 5: was slightly uncool. Yeah, I had a shaved head, a
Speaker 5: bit of a go tee, just like my man Victor Crumb. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think if I trained as well, I could be
Speaker 5: on the national quidditch team as Victor was on the
Speaker 5: Bulgarian national quidditch team. He was good, he was very Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I could pull it off.
Speaker 3: I took.
Speaker 5: I would love to take Hermione Granger to the yule Ball,
Speaker 5: to the surgery.
Speaker 3: Of eule Ball. You know, cool but not cool.
Speaker 5: So uh, give me the man, the derm strength Champion.
Speaker 5: Give me Victor Crumb Victory also just a great name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: That's a great pick. Yeah, maybe the best quidditch player
Speaker 4: on Earth, Wizard Earth?
Speaker 1: Really is that true?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, is Victor still with us?
Speaker 4: I think he makes it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, good, Yeah he's got it be okay good.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. All right, awesome pick. And yeah, you
Speaker 1: definitely looked like him.
Speaker 3: Just showed a picture for our YouTube.
Speaker 4: When was that you from?
Speaker 3: Was college graduation?
Speaker 1: You somehow look twenty years older in the photo that
Speaker 1: you were showing us of whatever, twenty plus years ago.
Speaker 1: It's wild, all right, JD. You're up next here, Harry Potter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, also not a Harryhead, believe it or not, I
Speaker 6: am a super nerd. Yeah, but never really got into it.
Speaker 6: I've read a couple of the books to the kids
Speaker 6: as they were younger, Jackson, Huge, Harryhead, Lincoln as well.
Speaker 6: I mean I've seen the movies in and out like
Speaker 6: but and I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I you know, maybe I.
Speaker 6: Should revisit it. But I'm going to keep this very simple.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: And this is just basically I feel like an outsider
Speaker 6: looking in, much like I do when I'm you know,
Speaker 6: watching basket ball. So I'm taking Hermione Grangeer. You know,
Speaker 6: I like somebody who has their shit together. She comes prepared,
Speaker 6: and as Fred alluded to, she seems to do the
Speaker 6: bulk of Harry's dirty work. Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 2: She's the smartest, not at all?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so's so She's always got her hand up, She's
Speaker 6: always there to help, and you know, she is just
Speaker 6: a heart of gold. And yeah, so I'm going Hermione Granger.
Speaker 1: Okay, Fred, you love that pick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that pick. It's a great pick. I
Speaker 2: mean I was debating between Hermione and and the guy
Speaker 2: who I'm now going to take, Yeah, between this, and
Speaker 2: it was tough because Carmione is so central as the
Speaker 2: story and a great character. Am I up? You are
Speaker 2: all right? So you know what, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 2: with a character who is is not nearly as essential
Speaker 2: to the narrative as some of the others who were picked,
Speaker 2: but just made me so happy at every single moment
Speaker 2: that he was mentioned or in, And you want to
Speaker 2: talk hard of Gold, I'm gonna go with Hagrid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Like if I had to go to dinner with one
Speaker 2: character from Harry Potter, I think I'm going with Hagrid.
Speaker 2: Like I think Hagrid could hang in this draft, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like if you guys were to
Speaker 2: have Hagrid on, I think he do really well in
Speaker 2: this draft, you'd have some great analysis like he could
Speaker 2: he could hang.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He is so trusting, he immediately Hagrid's greatest trait is
Speaker 2: that he is able to immediately notice who is good
Speaker 2: and who is not, and he knows everything, and yet
Speaker 2: nobody realizes that he knows everything. Like he's he's like
Speaker 2: the best anonymous source ever where you just go to
Speaker 2: him and it's like, yeah, I'm not even getting it
Speaker 2: to the g There's some people in the NBA where
Speaker 2: they're like they're not necessarily the team president, but somehow
Speaker 2: this this person just knows everything that's going on everywhere,
Speaker 2: and they're like the whispers. They'll point you around, No,
Speaker 2: this is happening here, that's kind of Hagrid, where you're like,
Speaker 2: how do you know this? You're just chilling your house
Speaker 2: all day you wait for Harry to show up, like
Speaker 2: how do you know all this stuff? And he just
Speaker 2: kind of knows it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's got an incredible moral compass. Uh. He's he's great
Speaker 2: comedic relief. He has so many funny so many funny lines,
Speaker 2: so many funny retorts. He's got this extremely boisterous and
Speaker 2: and welcoming vibe about him. I'm going to Hagrid just
Speaker 2: because I just really like him as a person.
Speaker 1: It's good good.
Speaker 2: He's massive.
Speaker 1: He's just how big is he?
Speaker 2: You can't teach size, gonna be unbelievable in the paints.
Speaker 1: How how tall is he? Like?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 4: He's a half giant ten feet according to a quick
Speaker 4: google here eight feet six inches almost Okay, that's yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: I basically I basically just got the guy who's gonna
Speaker 2: guard we Banyama.
Speaker 1: You know, was there was there love for any other
Speaker 1: Harry Potter characters? Fred on you on your board, you
Speaker 1: said Hermione obviously got drafted before you're picked. There anyone else?
Speaker 1: Like any love for for Dobby or or Voldemort himself.
Speaker 2: Dobby is Dobby is actually a really good character, but
Speaker 2: he's too small and he's he's too he's too an
Speaker 2: essential than narrative. Yeah, I don't mean too small. Literally,
Speaker 2: he is very small.
Speaker 3: Literally.
Speaker 2: Uh, Dobby is actually quite portable, like the orange or apple.
Speaker 2: Dobby's a great a great character. I don't know like Dobby. Like,
Speaker 2: Dobby's a little bit of an ass, you know, like
Speaker 2: he's he's constantly changing, he's backstabbing, and yet Harry is
Speaker 2: still like, Dobby, you're gonna help me. And then this
Speaker 2: is also why I'm like, is Harry as smart as
Speaker 2: everybody says? Because Dobby is constantly bamboozling Harry and here's
Speaker 2: being like, I can't believe he screwed me, Dobby. And
Speaker 2: then Dobby's going back and doing one nice thing and
Speaker 2: feeling bad about it, and then and Harry's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's the real Dobby and then he screwed four minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that completely saves his life. Yeah, right, because Harry
Speaker 4: built that bond. Harry fits with everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Dobby's a good character, but he's just I
Speaker 2: don't think he has the weight.
Speaker 1: What about I'm surprised Voldemart is not being selected here?
Speaker 1: Is he not like the most popular villain since like
Speaker 1: Darth Vader.
Speaker 4: It's pretty popular, right, He's on the very.
Speaker 1: Very short list of like popular villains. Yah.
Speaker 4: I think Baltimore and Dumbledore obviously another huge snub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dumbledore's totally a snub. I think I think
Speaker 2: if I weren't going with Haggard, I think I would
Speaker 2: go with with Dumbledore. I I really appreciate a wise
Speaker 2: man with a beard. It's just it's great. Who can like?
Speaker 2: Who can like? Who can like? Teach people to see
Speaker 2: other people's memories and know when people are manipulating memories.
Speaker 2: That's so badass.
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have a favorite movie from
Speaker 1: the Harry Potter series? Fred?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I had to replay them all real quick.
Speaker 2: I have to think. There's so there's so many books. Uh.
Speaker 2: I love Prisoner of Azka Man.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah that's a good one.
Speaker 4: Best movie you like that one? Oh? Yeah, it looks awesome.
Speaker 4: It's like Alfonso Coron I think is ya looks okay?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our third category here. It's New York
Speaker 1: Knicks Legends. I have the first pick in this category.
Speaker 1: I was happy with that because I took one second
Speaker 1: to decide who I was going with. Give me Walt
Speaker 1: Clyde Frasier, Yeah, maybe so one of the coolest guys
Speaker 1: on the planet. I mean, Fred, you could probably speak
Speaker 1: better this than anyone You're you're nodding away. He's cool
Speaker 1: as ship.
Speaker 2: He is so cool. So I I it's it's it's
Speaker 2: the biggest no brainer pick of any draft are gonna do. So, I,
Speaker 2: as a journalist, will never be like so and so
Speaker 2: who I cover is a great guy or so and
Speaker 2: so who I cover I really like. I might tell
Speaker 2: really positive stories about someone, and you can probably tell
Speaker 2: if I'm telling this really nice story about someone that
Speaker 2: I have positive feelings towards that person, but I never
Speaker 2: say so and so is a great guy, because I
Speaker 2: remember a journalist who covered O. J. Simpson was talking
Speaker 2: about how he once said that OJ was a great
Speaker 2: guy and then we know what happened there. So I
Speaker 2: never actually say it, so except for Clyde. Clyde Clyde,
Speaker 2: I'm like that, dude is the coolest. One of the
Speaker 2: most fun parts of being on the Knicks beat, for real,
Speaker 2: is that like three or four or five times a
Speaker 2: year when we around the road, Clyde will come into
Speaker 2: the media room and just sit down with the beat
Speaker 2: writers and I'll have dinner with us for like a
Speaker 2: half an hour in the media room, and he'll just
Speaker 2: tell these stories unfiltered of the Nicks in the seventies
Speaker 2: and of like the four or five of us who
Speaker 2: are sitting there. Clyde probably gets ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: words in, and we all wish it would be more
Speaker 2: than ninety percent. He is like exactly what you would
Speaker 2: hope he would be in a person. He is the nicest,
Speaker 2: most modest, smartest dude, the greatest storyteller. He's a freaking
Speaker 2: treasure and oh, by the way, unbelievable point guard. Amazing
Speaker 2: seven times the greatest game sevens of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven time All Star, six time All NBA, seven
Speaker 1: time All Defensive. He was a juggernaut on that end.
Speaker 1: He won two rings. Obviously, member of top seventy five
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He's probably gonna go in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame again, too, won't he? For a broadcaster got in.
Speaker 2: He's the first last last year. He's the first person.
Speaker 2: He is the first person to make it as both
Speaker 2: the player and as anything in journalism. Yeah, he's, uh,
Speaker 2: if you don't count the tant guys because they technically
Speaker 2: went in as a show individually. Okay, And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Clyde is he's then amazing broadcaster. I love
Speaker 2: and and and you know what's amazing, Like he says
Speaker 2: he used to have a terrible vocabulary. The reason why
Speaker 2: he speaks the way that he speaks is because he
Speaker 2: was so self conscious about his vocabulary when he started,
Speaker 2: when he started broadcasting, that he would like literally read
Speaker 2: the dictionary and just look for words and find words
Speaker 2: that he likes. And he has like his whole house
Speaker 2: is scattered with all these handwritten notebooks where he just
Speaker 2: he hears an expression, or he hears you, hears he
Speaker 2: hears an idiom, he hears one word, and he'll just
Speaker 2: write it down in his notebooks. And then he'll watch
Speaker 2: games in his living room on TV and he'll practice
Speaker 2: putting them into games and seeing what he can say
Speaker 2: and what he can't. Like he says anything he said
Speaker 2: on TV, he said thirty times by himself in his
Speaker 2: living room. Like the man is so dedicated to his
Speaker 2: craft it's unbelievable. And he's seventy eight, and he told
Speaker 2: me that he has no intention on retiring anytime soon.
Speaker 2: So like so like he is, and he's still so
Speaker 2: with it. Oh, I love getting to hang out with that.
Speaker 1: Do you think you could convince Clyde to slip in
Speaker 1: a fruit and tutin on the broadcast just for you?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: You'd have to figure out what the move would be?
Speaker 1: Fruit and tin? Okay, we'll think about it.
Speaker 2: That fruitin and tutin would be like a Paul Pierce
Speaker 2: wheelchair situation. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good, Fred, Okay, So everybody on board with that
Speaker 1: first pick. Traser, the legendary guard turned broadcaster, task you
Speaker 1: up next number two.
Speaker 5: Here, I'm taking his co pilot. When they won the championship,
Speaker 5: they don't win it without Willis Reid. I absolutely don't
Speaker 5: win it without the guy who was injured shouldn't have
Speaker 5: been playing in that Game seven gets announced, So here
Speaker 5: comes Willis Reid dragging that one leg, literally dragging that
Speaker 5: one leg in that game seven, and it's one of
Speaker 5: the most iconic sports moments of all time still now
Speaker 5: fifty years later. The late Willis Reid gave the Knicks
Speaker 5: to their first championship along with Clyde, and so I
Speaker 5: think this was those were the one two for me,
Speaker 5: done and done, and it was the best four point
Speaker 5: performance ever. But I don't think they win a championship
Speaker 5: without that guy doing what he did, even if it
Speaker 5: was four points to inspire everybody, and Clyde obviously inspired
Speaker 5: as well. But yeah, Willis reed, that's just one of
Speaker 5: the most iconic moments, so simple as.
Speaker 1: That good pick. Jd Let's move with some pace here,
Speaker 1: you're up next.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll keep this brief. This is a bit of
Speaker 6: a Homer pick. I'm taking Charles Oakley.
Speaker 3: I were no.
Speaker 6: He was on the wraps for three years, he was
Speaker 6: on the bulls for three years, and he was on
Speaker 6: the knits for ten years. He got into a big
Speaker 6: fight with James Dolan, which I love, and we had
Speaker 6: shots with him, vodka shots, ice cold.
Speaker 3: Now, that was refreshing.
Speaker 6: That was very refreshing. So I got a real soft
Speaker 6: spot for Charles Oakley.
Speaker 1: Oak How do you feel about those two picks there,
Speaker 1: Reid and Oakley?
Speaker 2: Fred reads a great pick Oak. I think if you're
Speaker 2: like factoring in the character and all of that, like
Speaker 2: he obviously wasn't the best player on those nineties Knicks teams,
Speaker 2: but he was like the personality. He was the person
Speaker 2: who most exuded the personality of those teams. You know,
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm good with it. I'm totally good with
Speaker 2: with Oakley.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're up next with the fourth pick in Knick's Legends.
Speaker 1: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if I'm just going with the best player,
Speaker 2: this one's kind of easy, right, Like, I kind of
Speaker 2: have to go with Patrick Ewing, who who also has
Speaker 2: a case is the best, the best Knick of all time.
Speaker 2: He's he's a he's he's he's one of the best
Speaker 2: scorers in the history of the team. He's one of
Speaker 2: the best defenders in the history of the team. He
Speaker 2: was on two teams that made it to the finals,
Speaker 2: which for the Knicks that's a big thing. I mean
Speaker 2: four times, and he went there in ninety four and
Speaker 2: he almost won it. If he weren't going up against
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan in the East, I think it's it's fair
Speaker 2: to say he definitely could have actually had a ring.
Speaker 2: He was still really good on that team in ninety nine,
Speaker 2: Like he was still a seventeen point scorer, and he
Speaker 2: was kind of rickety and in his late thirties, and
Speaker 2: it was his last good year, but like he was
Speaker 2: still a legit player on that ninety nine team, the
Speaker 2: eight seed that went to the finals and lost to
Speaker 2: the Spurs. He's at worst the best Nick since the seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and at best the greatest Nick of all time. And
Speaker 2: I am not going to mention his days with the
Speaker 2: Orlando Magic or Seattle SuperSonics, but he was an incredible
Speaker 2: player in an era by the way of just like
Speaker 2: the best centers that we've ever had, where he's going
Speaker 2: against Shack and he's going against a Keeam, and he's
Speaker 2: going against David Robinston. He's going against like these all
Speaker 2: time unbelievable centers and he's right there with him. So
Speaker 2: I feel good about feel good about my youwing pick.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of the only way to go there.
Speaker 1: You go and Trey take us home here, fifth pick
Speaker 1: in this category.
Speaker 4: I kind of feel the same way about Fred now
Speaker 4: that he took Patrick. There's one cool notable Nick left,
Speaker 4: especially from our time cover in the league. I gotta
Speaker 4: go with Mellow. Okay, gotta go with Mellow. Played a
Speaker 4: long time in New York. He scored a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of points, and he was definitely the coolest guy probably
Speaker 4: since the seventies to.
Speaker 1: Play for the Knicks.
Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of fond feelings for any
Speaker 4: of these guys. Yeah, I would have loved to have
Speaker 4: Oakley because he's been disavowed by the Knicks. That would
Speaker 4: have been perfect, basically drafting a bull. Other guys I
Speaker 4: considered would be J. R. Smith, who got fined for
Speaker 4: untying people's shoes back then, and Bernard King, who told
Speaker 4: us that it's faster to spin on your heel than
Speaker 4: it is to spin on your toes.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, which I still.
Speaker 4: Don't actually think is true. But he's the guy that
Speaker 4: scored a million points in the NBA. I do that
Speaker 4: every time I'm like in the kitchen spinning around the island.
Speaker 4: Heel versus tone doesn't make sense to be the he'll
Speaker 4: feels so weird, but no balance too worked for him,
Speaker 4: and it worked for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only other name if I didn't have the
Speaker 1: number one pick, like, I was lower in this with you,
Speaker 1: Like didn't love a lot of Knicks players, like even
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing was probably in terms of how good he
Speaker 1: was in the Hall of Fame status that he was.
Speaker 1: I just never liked him. I guess as a player,
Speaker 1: I did root against the Knicks, but I loved Anthony Mason,
Speaker 1: good one. I loved Mace for those couple of years
Speaker 1: there with the Knicks. So he would have been on
Speaker 1: my short list. Anyone else that you were considering Fred.
Speaker 2: No Ewing was too easy. Anthony Mason's a great pull.
Speaker 2: Anthony Mason was before his time.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: If Anthony Mason played in this era, he was kind
Speaker 2: of like he was kind of like a Draymond type,
Speaker 2: right yep, like he he He would have been so
Speaker 2: great in this era where they would have said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't care that you're you're you're a forward, go
Speaker 2: handle the ball all the time and average eight assists
Speaker 2: a game, and we're gonna run, pick and roll and
Speaker 2: get it to you. In the short role, he'd be
Speaker 2: a great one. I will add something. I like Trey's
Speaker 2: pick with Mellow, and I like his comment that he's
Speaker 2: kind of the coolest nick over the last because I
Speaker 2: covered Mellow when I was a thunderbeat writer. And you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I told you guys this, you know,
Speaker 2: Mello used to heckle me when I was on deadline
Speaker 2: in the locker room, so like I was I was.
Speaker 2: I was writing for a newspaper at the time, and
Speaker 2: I had a ten thirty deadline, and I would post
Speaker 2: up like we'd be in the locker room at ten
Speaker 2: fifteen getting quotes and stuff. So I'd post up my
Speaker 2: computer on the garbage can that was right next to
Speaker 2: Mello's locker in the corner of the locker room, and
Speaker 2: Mello knew my deadline was at ten thirty, so I'd
Speaker 2: be running into the scrum getting a quote, running back,
Speaker 2: putting my headphones in and like typing into my story
Speaker 2: and frantically trying to get it in by ten thirty
Speaker 2: because journalists who are on deadline are insane and it's
Speaker 2: so stressful. And every other game, Mellow would come from
Speaker 2: behind me and like stick his chin on my shoulder,
Speaker 2: staring at my screen at like ten twenty seven, and
Speaker 2: he'd just look at me and say something along the
Speaker 2: lines of, oh, you're gonna have to You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to type faster than that, or one time, one time
Speaker 2: he just pointed it and he's not actually reading it.
Speaker 2: One time he just pointed a random sentence and he says, oh,
Speaker 2: that sentence trash, and he loved it. He absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2: So that very much bolsters Tray's cool argument because he
Speaker 2: is certainly the only player ever to do that. And
Speaker 2: I thought it was. It killed me, it was, it
Speaker 2: was so fun.
Speaker 1: All right, mellow, going fifth there in the Nick's Legends category.
Speaker 1: We gotta take a break, real quick break. But when
Speaker 1: we come back, we got two more categories left. Famous
Speaker 1: Cats and fake Names. Don't go anywhere, all right, Still
Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory, having some fun with Fred
Speaker 1: Katz doing an old Squad episode. It had been so
Speaker 1: long since we did some drafting. We've done three categories,
Speaker 1: two or left, and I'm excited about this next one
Speaker 1: because his name is Cats. We are drafting Famous Cats.
Speaker 3: Task.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the number one pick.
Speaker 5: Gonna keep it simple, stupid, it's not too hard. It's Garfield,
Speaker 5: not only lasagna skeets. Garfield would eat anything. It sort
Speaker 5: of goes under the radar. But Garfield loved junk food,
Speaker 5: same as me. He also loved dessert, same as me.
Speaker 5: He's getting the best of all worlds. And I recently
Speaker 5: had lasagna. I don't know why. I don't have it
Speaker 5: more because I don't cook. But also Lazangni's amazing, so
Speaker 5: Garfley knew what he was doing. Let's not you guys
Speaker 5: can get cute. I feel bad for you. You're gonna
Speaker 5: have to get cute. Maybe maybe a larger cat, maybe
Speaker 5: a real life cat, maybe a keyboard cat.
Speaker 3: It's up to you. But I got the best one.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jim Davis.
Speaker 1: That's a great pick. Garfield going number one. JD, You're
Speaker 1: up next.
Speaker 6: All right, it was half joking, But could I take Catwoman?
Speaker 6: How do we feel about that?
Speaker 1: You're our guest. How do you feel about JD drafting
Speaker 1: cat Woman in the famous cats category?
Speaker 2: I think we should allow everyone to get as creative
Speaker 2: as possible, but it's got to be like a cat.
Speaker 2: Like Catwoman is a cat. I can't take. He can't
Speaker 2: you can't take like like a panther. But Catwoman's she's
Speaker 2: a catwoman. She's not Panther's. She's not like the Black Panther.
Speaker 2: You know, among superheroes, you can't take, you can take,
Speaker 2: you can take, you can take cat Woman. I'm going
Speaker 2: to allow it.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm taking cat Woman is the best character in
Speaker 6: the Batman universe, you got some great actors playing Catwoman.
Speaker 6: Who got Julie Numar, you got Michelle Pfiffer, You've got
Speaker 6: Zoe Kravitz and the Goat Ann Hathaway. M M yeah,
Speaker 6: I know, don't at me.
Speaker 3: That's a good cat roster.
Speaker 1: Was Catwoman's you know, powers? Just that she was like, uh,
Speaker 1: quiet and.
Speaker 6: Like quyat very good cat burglar, a little on the
Speaker 6: nose and sexiness, I don't know, like a great fighter,
Speaker 6: a great fighter. She had cat li like abilities. Michelle
Speaker 6: Pfeiffer had the most. Like she basically came back to
Speaker 6: life as a cat likes you died and came back
Speaker 6: to life through cat powers. So I think she had.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So is that famous scene where she has the
Speaker 1: whip Michelle, Yes, you're seeing that and she like actually
Speaker 1: does it. She takes off the heads of like dummies
Speaker 1: and four snaps or something like that.
Speaker 3: It's crazy cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, Catwoman coming here, JD Thinking Catwoman, Fred Katz, Okay, Fred,
Speaker 1: you're up next here.
Speaker 2: Third pick, All right, I'm gonna go Jinx from Meet
Speaker 2: the Parents. Good on the smartest cat in the history
Speaker 2: of cats. Wow, Like like basically a superhero brain like obviously,
Speaker 2: Jinks famously knows is potty trained, like just flat out
Speaker 2: uses the toilet, which is which is pretty amazing. But
Speaker 2: not only that, but but underratedly, Jinks blew up like
Speaker 2: a whole Aliens scheme that a human came up, you know,
Speaker 2: like Ben Stiller goes out, loses, Jinks goes out, gets
Speaker 2: another cat, spray paints the tail, and Jinks is like,
Speaker 2: I'm blowing up his spot. I'm just gonna go to
Speaker 2: the neighbors like he out smarter it is he or she?
Speaker 2: I don't even know ou smarted a human. I'm going
Speaker 2: with Jinks. Jinx is a great cat. It's one of
Speaker 2: Jinks is also one of the rare cats who genuinely
Speaker 2: has a character arc but is actually acknowledged there's nothing
Speaker 2: more than a real cat, like doesn't talk, doesn't doesn't
Speaker 2: it's it's just a house cat. And yet they still
Speaker 2: give Jinks a character arc, like like Jinks is a
Speaker 2: character not just like the family's cat. So I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say Jinks from from Meet the Parents, which is
Speaker 2: a classic, and uh and and and feel good about that.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, do you like cats?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have cats?
Speaker 2: No? But I like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, I like.
Speaker 2: Cats now obsessed with cats. Don't have cats. Don't need
Speaker 2: the shedding, don't need the responsibility, don't need don't need
Speaker 2: the responsibility of having to keep any thing alive. Right,
Speaker 2: just too stressful. But I like cats. When I'm with
Speaker 2: a cat, I'm good with a cat.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Jinks off the board tray. Where are
Speaker 1: you going?
Speaker 4: Yeah, except for Garfield, all my cats are still on
Speaker 4: the board here. So I'm excited to get my number
Speaker 4: one famous cat of all time, mister Bigglesworth. Yes, from
Speaker 4: the Austin Powers franchise.
Speaker 1: Ugly ass cat.
Speaker 4: Once a big white, fluffy cat, that's right until the
Speaker 4: unfreezing process, and suddenly Bigglesworth is a naked cat. And
Speaker 4: that was a thing I didn't know existed.
Speaker 1: Until these movies came out.
Speaker 4: We just got a skin cat walking around with an
Speaker 4: evil doctor. I think I've mentioned on the show before
Speaker 4: that my second car was a Cutlass Supreme that was
Speaker 4: called the Shaguar. But my first car was a nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety Chevy Bretta, and I had a mister Bigglesworth stuffed
Speaker 4: animal in the back. Dead ladies. Yeah, so mister Bigglesworth
Speaker 4: for me, zero character arc, but hilarious to look at
Speaker 4: those cats are those are disgusting?
Speaker 1: There was one where we used to.
Speaker 4: Remember, I just sit on the window. Yeah that's real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave me the GBS. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: really like to begin with.
Speaker 4: They're just gross naked scrotums. Like they're like if Dobby
Speaker 4: was a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I had it on the list to
Speaker 1: I would say maybe one of the best names of
Speaker 1: the cats. Yeah, mister Bigglesworth is fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's a great pick. Can we just discuss for a
Speaker 2: second that Trey referred to doctor Evil as an evil doctor?
Speaker 2: Is he actually a doctor? I never thought about if
Speaker 2: Doctor Evil was a doctor, Like his name is doctor Evil?
Speaker 2: He does?
Speaker 3: Is he? Yeah? He does?
Speaker 2: The old doctor is that's just lowercase. That's that's not
Speaker 2: a proper noun, right there, he's just an evil doctor.
Speaker 3: At one point he does.
Speaker 6: And now he might have been joking, but he does
Speaker 6: say I didn't go to evil medical school for eight
Speaker 6: years to not be called doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. It's a good point. I just I
Speaker 2: just like the idea of him being an evil doctor,
Speaker 2: like he's just he's just like a surgeon who steals
Speaker 2: people's intestines when he's giving those jobs. Right, he's just
Speaker 2: an evil doctor.
Speaker 1: Alright. I have the final pick here in the famous
Speaker 1: cats category. Uh, some of them are gone. You guys
Speaker 1: selected Garfield, mister Bigglesworth there. But my my remaining list
Speaker 1: it is, uh, Puss in boots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Tom from Tom and Jerry.
Speaker 3: Sure, big time cat.
Speaker 1: And then I got some real cats in play here.
Speaker 1: I got Grumpy Cat, and I got keyboard Cat.
Speaker 3: Great one cat.
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling musical right now. Give me keyboard cat.
Speaker 7: Give me that little cat. Those keys tickling the ivories.
Speaker 7: Oh you did something dumb? You get a keyboard cat
Speaker 7: makes me laugh every time. Yes, and it's been around
Speaker 7: for a while now. So I will take a real
Speaker 7: cat in the keyboard Cat. I don't know if it's
Speaker 7: a male cat or a female cat. I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's research out there or.
Speaker 1: A deep dive article on it, but keyboard cat, I'm
Speaker 1: going with Fred any thoughts.
Speaker 2: I think that's good. The only the only one I
Speaker 2: considered going with because because it's a basketball podcast, I
Speaker 2: don't even know. This is definitely not a basketball because
Speaker 2: occasionally you guys mentioned the sport of basketball. I considered
Speaker 2: kind of cheating and going with two cats and going
Speaker 2: with Brooke and Robin Lopez's cats, who who apparently are
Speaker 2: feuding and don't like each other when when they were
Speaker 2: when they were teammates years ago, they said they couldn't
Speaker 2: live together. And I've discussed this with Robin. His cat's
Speaker 2: name is Zephyr. They said they couldn't live together because
Speaker 2: Robin and Brooks cats hated each other and they couldn't
Speaker 2: do that with their cats. Now that they're teammates again,
Speaker 2: and I have said this to Eric name and now
Speaker 2: I'm going to publicly call him out. Who's our fantastic
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks beat writer. I want the update their teammates again.
Speaker 2: I want the update. Have have Zephyr and whatever Brooks
Speaker 2: cat's name is. Have they repaired their relationship? Can those
Speaker 2: two be together at the same time? I want the
Speaker 2: whole thing. I want the whole feature on those two cats.
Speaker 2: So I'm really intrigued by the Lopez brother Pat dynamic.
Speaker 2: So I considered it, but I just thought Jinx was
Speaker 2: the better the better one but I think everybody made
Speaker 2: a great pick in this one.
Speaker 1: Is is Zephyr the name of the battle cat in
Speaker 1: he Man? Or is that Zeus or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm curious because I would imagine Robin has some sort
Speaker 1: of cartoon or comic book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. I talked about this with
Speaker 2: Robin when he was on the Wizards and I was
Speaker 2: covering the Wizards, and and he was quite excited when
Speaker 2: I told him that the Wizards were for one year
Speaker 2: called the Zephyr's Oh right, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah,
Speaker 2: for one for one years in Chicago. And Robin is
Speaker 2: one of the few NBA players who would like genuinely
Speaker 2: get excited about that ridiculously useless fact. So he was.
Speaker 2: He was the perfect, the perfect Wizard, Robin Lopez. And
Speaker 2: tell you what, Robin Lopez would have made a good
Speaker 2: pick in the Harry Potter draft till oh certainly would
Speaker 2: have been picking Harry Potter number one.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to our fifth and final category. It
Speaker 1: is fake names, So JD again, this is a stage name,
Speaker 1: a pen name. You know you can have some fun
Speaker 1: with this as well. This is again I said, inspired
Speaker 1: by Fred Katz, your real name Fred is.
Speaker 2: Matthew.
Speaker 1: Look at that, Matthew Kats. It's a good name too,
Speaker 1: But Fred Katz, I mean that just hits.
Speaker 3: It really does.
Speaker 1: So fake names that's what's inspired this weird category. JD
Speaker 1: have the number one pick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I wanted to pick somebody with the silliest
Speaker 6: name but with the most acclie and accomplishments. So Fred
Speaker 6: Katz definitely on the list. Jay Eastkeets definitely on the list.
Speaker 6: But I'm not going with you, guys. I'm going with
Speaker 6: Stephanie Joanne Angelina Germanada, also known as Lady Gaga. Thirteen Grammys,
Speaker 6: one Oscar, three brit Awards, plush. He's in the Guinness
Speaker 6: Book of World Records for sixteen times for some reason.
Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to look up why. But
Speaker 6: and also kind of the silliest name, like it's I
Speaker 6: feel like it's just a dumb name. Lady Gaga is
Speaker 6: just sort of weird to have when you're, you know,
Speaker 6: on the Oscar stage, being nominated for an Oscar. I mean,
Speaker 6: people forget about it. She's part of the lexicon now
Speaker 6: and that's fine, but it's still I'm like, if I
Speaker 6: was with Stephanie, you know, back in New Jersey, and
Speaker 6: she was like, I'm gonna call myself Lady Gaga and
Speaker 6: I would be like, really, you sure.
Speaker 1: It's a lot like calling yourself j Yeah, exactly two thousands,
Speaker 1: I understand, I know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but she's a huge talent. Love Lady Gaga's she's
Speaker 6: my pick.
Speaker 1: Okay, great call, strung pick.
Speaker 2: You guys want to hear a crazy Lady Gaga story?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: So my dad dated a woman before, the woman before
Speaker 2: he dated his mom, not his mom. He didn't date it.
Speaker 2: That's a wild story. That's the whole story. The woman
Speaker 2: before he dated my mom was a woman named Cynthia
Speaker 2: Louise Bissitt, and she was from West Virginia, and he
Speaker 2: would constantly reference her growing up, and we would make
Speaker 2: jokes about Cynthia Louise Bissitt from West Virginia. And he
Speaker 2: went to West Virginia once and met their parents, her parents,
Speaker 2: and they only said West by God Virginia. So now
Speaker 2: my dad only says West by God Virginia because you know,
Speaker 2: he's a he's a weird guy, and so we've just
Speaker 2: got to make jokes about Cynthia Louise Bissit growing up,
Speaker 2: and about five years my dad wonders, what is I
Speaker 2: wonder what Cynthia Louise Bissett is doing now? So he
Speaker 2: googles Cynthia Louise Bissit and comes up all these results
Speaker 2: about Lady Gaga, and he's like, what is this? And
Speaker 2: and he he figures he made to type something wrong
Speaker 2: or whatever, so he googles it again and all these
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga results come in and it turns out the
Speaker 2: man she started dating after my dad she married and
Speaker 2: she is Lady Gaga's mom.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And so my dad was like one one commitment away
Speaker 2: from being.
Speaker 8: Daddy Gaga and and what he would have just been
Speaker 8: taken care of, and instead he's stuck with a sports riding.
Speaker 1: Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 4: Just rising up the draft board.
Speaker 3: For Fred Father.
Speaker 1: Okay, Fred, you're up next here in fake names? Where
Speaker 1: you going?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I do have a question like how are obviously like
Speaker 2: Seal is not a nickname, but how do we feel
Speaker 2: about nicknames that are are are noted as nicknames, but
Speaker 2: we use them for their guys, like example Big Baby Davis.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see you're saying, I don't know who is
Speaker 1: it say the pick.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know what, screw it. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: say it's not allowed, and I'm going to do my
Speaker 2: own thing. I will say, by the way, that I
Speaker 2: was playing black Jacket around one am two am in
Speaker 2: Vegas at Summer League this year, and somebody comes from
Speaker 2: behind me and screams at the dealer from like ten
Speaker 2: feet away, very drunk, but very politely, Yo, can you
Speaker 2: direct me to the nearest to the nearest gelato shop?
Speaker 2: And I turned around and it was Big Glenn's Baby
Speaker 2: Books and just a wasted Glenn, Big Baby Davis. And
Speaker 2: I was so happy that he wanted the nearest gelato
Speaker 2: shop at two am on a wends day, because like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have an ice cream like two am. He's
Speaker 2: not settling for that. He wants a quaint shop with
Speaker 2: just Jolana. I should have. I was so taken aback
Speaker 2: that I I didn't. I just I just turned to
Speaker 2: my buddy next to me and said, holy shit, that crack.
Speaker 2: I will take. I will take Samuel Clemens UH otherwise
Speaker 2: known as Mark Twain, Uh, the the the greatest writer
Speaker 2: of all time, the oldest it's probably not the oldest.
Speaker 2: Pen name or stage name or whatever you're gonna call it,
Speaker 2: but it's got to be up there amongst at least
Speaker 2: like modern modern celebrity culture. Yeah. So I think Samuel
Speaker 2: Clemens is a good one. Everyone knows Mark Twain. I'm
Speaker 2: sure a lot of people know Samuel Clemens, but no
Speaker 2: one thinks of Samuel Clemens. No one un ironically mentions
Speaker 2: Samuel Clemens. So I am I'm gonna go with with
Speaker 2: Mark Twain. Who's the greatest writer, the greatest humorist. He
Speaker 2: has my favorite quote ever about writing, when he wrote
Speaker 2: a really long letter to somebody once and he ended
Speaker 2: it with I'm sorry this letter was so long. I
Speaker 2: didn't have time to write a short one. And and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with with Mark Twain.
Speaker 1: I like to see a real pen name get select. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in this category. I don't think the rest of us
Speaker 1: were gonna be on board with that, but we'll see, Trey,
Speaker 1: you're up next, where you're going?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: My choice here was an easy one, number one on
Speaker 4: my draft board and definitely not as critically heralded as
Speaker 4: Mark Twain or even Lady Gaga doesn't have as many
Speaker 4: Guinness Book of world records. But he rose to the
Speaker 4: top of my list instantly. Vin Diesel, Mark Sinclair, Vincent.
Speaker 4: The guy looks like he should be named Diesels, Like
Speaker 4: I'm going by Diesel forever.
Speaker 6: I thought you were going to say the Rock.
Speaker 2: I thought someone was going to finally draft Boldemort. He's
Speaker 2: just Tom.
Speaker 4: Tom No going Vin.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people are going to say probably a reach, but
Speaker 4: especially like he made his life about being a driver.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that's good. Yeah, I almost I'll
Speaker 1: admit that I forgot that's not his real name, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly that and and well and then and then you
Speaker 1: have his fake name in movies that we're always confusing,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, so that's a double layer there,
Speaker 1: you get.
Speaker 2: Trey gets the win just because he picked the one
Speaker 2: guy who when the ice Bucket Challenge was a thing
Speaker 2: and you were supposed to challenge other people after that
Speaker 2: that that Vin Diesel did the ice fucking challenge and
Speaker 2: then challenged like totally seriously, just point at the camera.
Speaker 2: I named three named three people, name two people and
Speaker 2: goes and and there's no reference to putin before, like
Speaker 2: it's just challenging putin. It was really great.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Putin never did the ice bucket challenge.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, clar I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: don't think he did it. Uh, he should have. If
Speaker 2: Vin Diesel challenges Putin did the ice bucket challenge like that,
Speaker 2: you have to make it happen. That's I think why
Speaker 2: Putin has gotten such bad pr.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, all right, I'm up next year, fourth
Speaker 1: pick in this category. Uh, this was difficult, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with someone's who reels whose real name is
Speaker 1: Saul Hudson. Do you know who that is?
Speaker 3: I do know who that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's one of the greatest guitar players of
Speaker 1: all time. Give me Slash.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's just a great name.
Speaker 1: A great you know. I guess it is a nickname,
Speaker 1: but obviously his stage name. I'm going Slash Saul Hudson.
Speaker 1: And in doing a little research, I found out that
Speaker 1: actor Seymour Cassell, whose son was friends with Slash, was
Speaker 1: credited with giving him the nickname because he was always
Speaker 1: zipping from one place to another and never sitting still.
Speaker 1: Seymour Cassell, he's the type of actor that you have
Speaker 1: to see him and you go that guy. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been in like two hundred movies and like television show
Speaker 1: is never like a big big name. He was in
Speaker 1: he was Burt Fisher and Rushmore, and he was Dusty
Speaker 1: in The Royal Tenet Moms. It's that guy. And he
Speaker 1: apparently gave the nickname to Slash, which again is one
Speaker 1: of the coolest, like you know, rock stage names of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: So well that's why they call him Seymour, Like that's
Speaker 2: not even his real name. People are like, I got
Speaker 2: a Seymour.
Speaker 1: Before, look up Seymour, Like, ah, yeah him, But yeah,
Speaker 1: Slash is my.
Speaker 5: Pick when you google best pen names or stage names.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a cool ass name.
Speaker 3: Mark Twain also comes up, So.
Speaker 1: There you go, taking some classics here, Okay, tass, you
Speaker 1: have the final pick here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I picked this person for one reason and one reason only.
Speaker 5: He changed his name from Christopher Edwin Burrow b R
Speaker 5: E A U X I assume it's pronounced bro to
Speaker 5: Christopher Francis Ocean because he wanted the name Frank Ocean.
Speaker 5: So you know, there's two steps. So Frank Ocean he wanted.
Speaker 5: He wanted to be born Christopher Francis Ocean, so he
Speaker 5: changed his damn name to that. He didn't didn't just go,
Speaker 5: hey call me Frank Ocean. Uh So, I like, I
Speaker 5: like the double step and it's just a cool name.
Speaker 3: Frank Ocean's a great name.
Speaker 4: I think he says he like did the name change
Speaker 4: on legal Zoom.
Speaker 5: I buy, that's hilarious. That was a thing people were
Speaker 5: doing and still doing.
Speaker 1: I guess was there anyone else you were considering in
Speaker 1: this final category? Fred? You know what were you was?
Speaker 1: Chris Gaines on the board?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I thought about Share just because
Speaker 2: she's so iconically one name. Yeah, I feel like we're
Speaker 2: gonna you go iconically one name. She's just like, so
Speaker 2: she's so named that. And honestly, there's some NBA players
Speaker 2: who have some great ones, like like Fat Lever is
Speaker 2: a great one. Like Fat Fat Is it's a great
Speaker 2: one because it's it's not short for his real name
Speaker 2: is Lafayette Lever, and it's not short for Lafayette. But
Speaker 2: you kind of see how you can get from like
Speaker 2: Fayette to fat, you know, and a dude just going
Speaker 2: by fat is awesome. There are a lot of musicians
Speaker 2: we could have gone with. I mean, we could have
Speaker 2: gone with just like Tupac or Biggie or or or
Speaker 2: Eminem or any of those. I felt like that was
Speaker 2: that was too easy because there are just like so
Speaker 2: many share seal like, there are so many musicians to
Speaker 2: just go by that I felt we had to deviate some.
Speaker 2: But I love I love the picks. I love the bicks.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there it is. Let's recap our squads. Fred
Speaker 1: do you do you know your entire team?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: I have it if you don't, But recap your squad
Speaker 1: because again, the listener, the people on YouTube, they're going
Speaker 1: to decide who has the best Fred Katz team. Here,
Speaker 1: what's your squad?
Speaker 2: Okay? So for fruits, I want strawberries. For Harry Potter,
Speaker 2: I went Hagrid. For cats, I went Jinks from Meet
Speaker 2: the Parents.
Speaker 1: You missed your knixt player there?
Speaker 2: Oh my next player was Patrick Ewing. Yep, and uh
Speaker 2: this what did we just draft? I don't remember? Oh.
Speaker 2: For for fake names, I went Mark Twain, Samuel Clements.
Speaker 1: All right, that's a strong squad there from Fred Kats Trey,
Speaker 1: recap your team.
Speaker 4: I got a mango, I got Harry Potter, I got Carmelo, Anthony,
Speaker 4: mister Bigglesworth and Vin Diesel.
Speaker 1: Oh great, just great name recognition there with the team. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I went in the best fruit controversial. According to Fred Katz,
Speaker 1: I took the apple. I do have a snap. I
Speaker 1: do have Walt Clyde Frasier as my knixt legend. I
Speaker 1: went with keyboard cat banging away on that keyboard and
Speaker 1: gimme Slash as my fake name. Task your team.
Speaker 5: Peaches are my fruit. Very excited about that. Victor Crumb,
Speaker 5: my Harry Potter guy, Willis Reed, my New York Knicks legend, Garfield,
Speaker 5: that's my cat and fake name, Frank Ocean and JD
Speaker 5: your team.
Speaker 6: My team is the Mighty Orange, is the fruit, Hermione Granger.
Speaker 6: Charles Oakley is the New York Knicks legend. My famous
Speaker 6: cat is cat Woman, and my fake name is Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: A lot of female power on your team, JD.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, sneaky as a great roster.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: If Skeates didn't have Apples, I'd say he'd be really gone.
Speaker 6: Damn it.
Speaker 1: I watched it with Apple.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not up to you, Fred, It's up to
Speaker 1: the people. So let us know in the comments. I
Speaker 1: know some of you are in the stream. Team right now.
Speaker 1: Let us know on Twitter at No Dunk Sync and Fred,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I had I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a blast. Hopefully the people did as well. Where can
Speaker 1: the people find you? What's the best way to stay
Speaker 1: in touch?
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Fred Katz for
Speaker 2: as long as it exists. You can read me on
Speaker 2: the Athletic I write about the Knicks and yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: for having me on, guys. I said at the beginning,
Speaker 2: this is my favorite basketball podcast ever, but the reality
Speaker 2: is actually my favorite podcast. So I am I am
Speaker 2: always so excited to come on. As you know, I've
Speaker 2: been literally listening to you since I was like a
Speaker 2: chat like a kid, So I'm I'm so excited to
Speaker 2: come up with you guys always this.
Speaker 1: Is a blast. Well, we appreciate you swinging by guys.
Speaker 1: We will have a drop podcast tomorrow, so make sure
Speaker 1: you join us live at ten Eastern. Also, after that
Speaker 1: Drop podcast, we're gonna try something new here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: open up some fan mail live on playback, so make
Speaker 1: sure I'll make sure to include that link in the
Speaker 1: show notes, but join our playback room. We'll probably go
Speaker 1: live around twelve pm soon after the Drop podcast at
Speaker 1: ten am Eastern, so make sure you come by and
Speaker 1: check that out. All right, everyone, let's hear your picks
Speaker 1: when it comes to these five categories. Let us know
Speaker 1: as well, and we're doing Clipper bros. Yeah, well sure,
Speaker 1: why not Clipper brose. You heard it here first.
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys, awesome.
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. And remember, as the great fred
Speaker 5: Fred Katz once said, somewhat regrettably, I think he said,
Speaker 5: Harry Potter is the worst character in Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people,