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Speaker 1: Last minute tickets Loa's price is guaranteed. All right, Nick, right,

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked in a while. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the important thing to start with is the first American pope.

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Speaker 1: And I've got a question to you, because you're really

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Speaker 1: good with rankings. Is there a power rankings for pope?

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Speaker 1: How do you well? In my lifetime? John Paul the second? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like he was.

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Speaker 2: An old timer. I also remember, because I grew up Catholic,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get this wrong, but there was some

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Speaker 2: maybe something happened where Saint Patrick's Day maybe fell on

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Speaker 2: this day, but it's a like a Friday during Lent

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Speaker 2: when you're only supposed to have fish. I just remember

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Speaker 2: that he was like I talked to God and this

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, he audible. Again. I never

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Speaker 2: know anything that I read on the internet these days,

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Speaker 2: But if it's true that this is our first ever

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I also do think that in the midst of this

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Speaker 2: Nicks run, the fact that the pope went to Villa Nova.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a good sign.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, right there, you know he's a culture guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean nobody, everybody that goes to Villanova's part of

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Speaker 1: some sort of cool culture. I also, I gotta tell

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's I've gotten less repped up. I

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Speaker 1: Like, that is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I was like I didn't even know we were eligible,

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Speaker 1: That's pretty sick. Well, you know it's pretty sick. You know,

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Speaker 1: Canada didn't have a say they're pissed off of us.

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Speaker 2: I mean also, then I was reading more again, this

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Speaker 2: over the last six years, they've been an expert on

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Speaker 1: No, I was actually into it today and somebody on

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I do think that particularly the crowd is stunning,

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Speaker 1: And I feel, honestly in my over the last six

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Speaker 2: Didn't make a good of a company, Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: So I so I have a lot of thoughts on

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Speaker 2: So I'll just tell an anecdote from my personal life

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Speaker 1: And there's an argument to be made as I, as

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Speaker 1: That the only the only likeness I've ever had in

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Speaker 1: It was like is there family heritage? Because a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty six years old exactly, So I got I

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Speaker 2: So what will surprise people that didn't know me when

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Speaker 2: been almost ten years, believe it or not. I used

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Speaker 2: So I can't believe you're not starting with a Tatum

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Speaker 2: victory let Okay, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, So there's two things where I don't think

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Speaker 1: I was rooting for Baker Mayfield to eventually grow up

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Speaker 1: that's my wife said. I think you almost root to

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Speaker 1: every show Baker's emergence. And so here's funny. I defended Tatum.

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Speaker 2: After Game one.

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Speaker 1: so Kobe and Michael would have fought that shit regularly.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do that. He's a good kid. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm defending him. And then in Game two, Keiths infuriated me.

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Speaker 1: I said, Jalen Brunson is work boots and Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: to wear him. He's not built. He's not built for

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Speaker 1: really intense resilient moments. He's not he Literally, when he

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Speaker 2: So agreed. So I have a There's two things that

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Speaker 2: think of Magic, think of Michael, think of le Bron,

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Speaker 2: I cann I can tell when something is totally off

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Speaker 2: Did you have any idea when you did that? Did

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Speaker 2: did you have it when you finished that or when

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Speaker 2: you did that, did you feel like, oh, okay, everyone's

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Speaker 1: And then I have a second, I think that was

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Speaker 1: I don't do a script, but I yellow if somebody

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Speaker 1: dot dot the start of my show, I usually have

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Speaker 1: an absolute direction on where I'm going, so I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: and I never ever I have terrible instincts on what

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Speaker 1: pops and what doesn't. All these years, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Stuff I think's brilliant. It's crickets.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of what I thought. What I

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Speaker 2: kind of thought was this is this was planned, like

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Speaker 2: Colin knew where he was going, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: this is gonna cut through everything. But for some reason,

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Speaker 2: not for some reason, I think it's because it was

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Speaker 2: a point that when you did it, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people were like, holy shit, he's right, Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's nothing I can think of. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: The other point, you and I today right around the

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Speaker 2: exact same time. It's so funny because I'm doing my

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Speaker 2: podcasts for the volume right around the time your show

446
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Speaker 2: goes on the air, So you know, so without knowing

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Speaker 2: what you were going to say, and you obviously without

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Speaker 2: knowing what I was going to say, you and I

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Speaker 2: made a very similar point, which is for the sake

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Speaker 2: of the sport, it's really important the Knicks pull this

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Speaker 2: off absolutely because we are in such a copycat sports

452
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Speaker 2: world that and by the way, it will probably be

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Speaker 2: an overreaction. The way the Celtics play is probably the

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Speaker 2: right way to play, and probably so much so that

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Speaker 2: the league just needs to change some rules like Baseball

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Speaker 2: did in a lot of different ways to stem the tide. However,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the league is in a hurry to

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Speaker 2: make massive rule changes. And I also think that if

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Speaker 2: the Celtics get clocked by a team that couldn't beat

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Speaker 2: a good team all year and it's because they averaged

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Speaker 2: fifty threes a game and just went cold, that a

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Speaker 2: bunch of teams will just get cold feet and be like,

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Speaker 2: screw that, go down on the block. Go let's go

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Speaker 2: get some muscle, take some mid rangers, and the league

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Speaker 2: is more interesting that way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to throw something at you. I

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Speaker 1: think you'll really like this. And I talked about this today.

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Speaker 1: I said, why are we seeing so many underdogs win

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Speaker 1: home teams lose? Why are there so many upsets?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because of two things. The use the heavy use of

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Speaker 1: three ball and analytics simultaneously, as the NBA decides, we're

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Speaker 1: going to make these the most physical playoffs ever. And

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Speaker 1: so what has happened is the finesse teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors pro Jimmy Butler didn't get to the line,

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Speaker 1: The Celtics never get to the line. The finesse teams,

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Speaker 1: the pretty teams, the teams that during a regular season

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Speaker 1: walk into your arena you're tired, they're not. They're young,

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Speaker 1: deep and can shoot. Blow your doors off. Oklahoma City

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Speaker 1: can do this. And then the league goes, hey, little curveball,

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Speaker 1: it's now pro wrestling. And that rewards the Knicks, Draymond

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Speaker 1: Butler and the Warriors, the t Wolves against the pretty Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Is that it almost rewarded the Rockets against the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: They just couldn't score at all.

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Speaker 1: So the league, this is wh I am always I

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Speaker 1: call it analytics is baseball. Analytics are great in baseball

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Speaker 1: and basketball for a long season. But in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: when a baseball manager will use starters out of the pen,

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Speaker 1: suddenly your analytics.

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Speaker 2: When you know a few.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, justin Verlanders now pitching in the eighth, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not really a bullpit. You manage differently in the

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Speaker 1: postseason and in the NBA the league is gone, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not blowing the whistle. Well, now you're rewarding the

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Speaker 1: less skilled defensive mind limited teams like the Warriors without

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Speaker 1: staph Steph Leaves that Minnesota game. They were just as

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Speaker 1: effective because they just grabbed and pulled and held on it.

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Speaker 1: And the Knicks are built for these kind of playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm oh, I always call them analytics.

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Speaker 1: I love analytics. But postseason comes down to we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna blow the whistle. We're gonna let things slide. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's why Villanova guys, this is why

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Speaker 1: it's so fun. Villanova guys all play defense, all were

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Speaker 1: in close games. Kentucky had the personnel, Villanova had the soul.

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Speaker 1: Villanova even when they won national titles, they don't run

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Speaker 1: through the tournament and beat the shit out of people

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Speaker 1: Kentucky did. Kansas does. So these Villanova players go to

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Speaker 1: three to four years they've been playing defense. Three star

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Speaker 1: guys get to the NBA overlooked. Then they go to Tibbs,

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Speaker 1: who's like Jay Wright defense practice. So the Knicks are

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Speaker 1: built for a hyper aggressive playoff format, and the Celtics

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Speaker 1: are still good, but they're flawed with the change of officiating.

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Speaker 2: So there's a million pieces of that. I want to

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Speaker 2: jump on one, which is the giant sample versus the

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Speaker 2: shorter sample and trusting the math because something really interesting

516
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Speaker 2: and that you'll find this interesting because you're not a

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Speaker 2: poker player. So one of the things I have found

518
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Speaker 2: really interesting is a lot of people who clearly don't

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Speaker 2: play poker are making the point that the Celtics are

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Speaker 2: poker players. They're card counters, they're professional gamblers that know listen,

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Speaker 2: it's sixty forty my way, and I make that bet

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Speaker 2: enough times I eventually profit. And that does actually apply

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Speaker 2: and work for blackjack, where it is truly just you know,

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Speaker 2: you have a sample size of infinity if you want it,

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Speaker 2: and you know what you can the But poker is

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Speaker 2: different because the way the actual best UH poker players

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Speaker 2: work in a tournament format where there is escalating. So

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Speaker 2: again I'm gonna have to explain a little bit about

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Speaker 2: tournament poker, but I promise will be worth it to

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Speaker 2: the audience. Say there's a one hundred players in a

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Speaker 2: poker tournament, Yeah, eighty and it costs one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: to get into it. So there's one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: in the prize pool. The first eighty five people eliminated

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Speaker 2: will get zero dollars. Final fifteen are the people who

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Speaker 2: get money. Yes, and then if it was one hundred again,

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: World Series of Poker works right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, except the numbers are bigger and

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Speaker 2: it's more people. But it's the interestween tournament poker and

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Speaker 2: a cash game. A cash game is I sit down

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Speaker 2: with a certain amount of money, I can get up

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Speaker 2: whenever I want up or down whatever. And then fifteenth

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Speaker 2: place under this tournament would probably you'd get fifteen hundred bucks,

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Speaker 2: so you'd profit five hundred dollars. First place you get

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Speaker 2: thirty five grand, second place you get twenty. And you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's tiered, but it is really

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Speaker 2: rewards like getting into first or second or third versus

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Speaker 2: just barely getting into the money. Okay, that's how tournament

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Speaker 2: poker works. At the beginning of a poker tournament, a

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Speaker 2: professional player, if they know, all right, I have a

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Speaker 2: sixty percent chance of winning this hand. The money is

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Speaker 2: we're both You know I can call your all in

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Speaker 2: pre flop. I have X ray vision, I know your cards.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sixty forty favorite, even though two out of

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Speaker 2: five times I'm gonna lose. It's the beginning of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: I need to get chips. I have to call there,

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Speaker 2: I call, and you take the risk. That's that's smart.

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Speaker 2: That's the way they will play. If at the final

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Speaker 2: table of that tournament, that professional player looks around and says,

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Speaker 2: I'm the best player here. I have a sizable skill advantage,

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Speaker 2: then that player no longer has any interest in getting

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Speaker 2: involved in sixty forty confrontations even when they have the

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Speaker 2: sixty percent, because they know, yeah, in the long run,

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Speaker 2: all win. But this isn't a long run. This is

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Speaker 2: a sample of one and I have a two out

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Speaker 2: of five chance of losing. I would rather lower the variant,

567
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Speaker 2: play smaller pots, but it grind you down to where

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Speaker 2: I'm eventually an eighty five to fifteen favorite. So here's

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Speaker 2: why I tell that whole story. The Celtics shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: looking at this series like they're the best player at

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Speaker 2: the table and they have a better option than adding

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Speaker 2: all this variance by bombing threes. They should be saying,

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Speaker 2: the last thing we want is a cold shooting night

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Speaker 2: to call this the game because we're better than you.

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Speaker 2: The team that invented this strategy, the Houston Rockets with

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Speaker 2: under Daryl Morey, did it because they were never the

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Speaker 2: better team because they were trying to beat Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Duran and Klay Thompson. So they said, we want

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Speaker 2: to get into forty sixty battles even if we're on

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Speaker 2: the forty because we're gonna win those almost half the time.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics, this is my biggest criticism. They are approaching

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Speaker 2: this series like they can't beat them straight up. They're

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Speaker 2: approaching the series like they need luck in their favor.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind this if this were the first two

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Speaker 2: games of the NBA Finals against Oklahoma City, because they

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Speaker 2: might look at Oklahoma City and be like, man, they're

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Speaker 2: better than us, So let's let's shake the snow globe

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Speaker 2: and add some variants to it. The Knicks, they shouldn't

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Speaker 2: felt that way, and their refusal, and here's the one

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Speaker 2: other thing that I'm going to add to it, there

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Speaker 2: is still an argument play the way you play for

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Speaker 2: at least the beginning of the game. In both of

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00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: these games, they've had a twenty point lead late. That

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Speaker 2: is obviously the moment to be like, hey, it's not

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Speaker 2: a long run, large sample anymore. It's can we play

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Speaker 2: a style of basketball that will give us the best

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Speaker 2: chance to finish these.

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Speaker 1: Next be very conservative investors. Let's pull out tech stocks

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Speaker 1: buy bonds for the next eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's right there you go. So that's your version of it.

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Speaker 2: It's the difference between how you are told to invest

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Speaker 2: your retirement. Yeah, when you're thirty versus when you're sixty two, Like,

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Speaker 2: those are different strategies. And the Celtics approach of being like,

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Speaker 2: we are going to play the fourth quarter of a

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Speaker 2: playoff game the exact style we would play the first

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Speaker 2: quarter of a February game is just that's not staying

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Speaker 2: true to who you are. That's being ridiculous. Yes, that

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Speaker 2: would be as if the Chiefs at their heyday of

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Speaker 2: the when Tyreek was there and everything, when they were

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Speaker 2: just high flying and didn't have a good defense, they

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Speaker 2: when they were up ten in the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 2: a playoff game, They're like, bombs away. This is what

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Speaker 2: we do. That's not smart. That's not staying true to

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Speaker 2: who you are.

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Speaker 1: That's why when the Miami Dolphins have Jalen Waddle and

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, that works in September and October. But as

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Speaker 1: the weather gets windy and cold and the all the

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Speaker 1: best AFC teams play lousy weather, what you really need

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Speaker 1: to do, and this is a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: flaw with Mike McDaniels, is what you really need to

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Speaker 1: do is start to change your offense about thanksgime, because

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to go to Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And so what happens is this is.

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Speaker 2: What we do.

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Speaker 1: We throw it downfield. Will you have a small, modest

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Speaker 1: armed quarterback and you're still trying and then you try

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Speaker 1: to pivot to No, it's too late. And so it

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Speaker 1: was always funny watching the Dolphins, and I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: you're falling in love with September and October football. This

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Speaker 1: stuff works. Then the NFL think about this. Name the

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Speaker 1: last Dome dynasty in the NFL. Name the last warm

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Speaker 1: weather dynasty. They don't exist. Marino never want to ring

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Speaker 1: because eventually you become a very warm weather offense. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers with Dan Fouts were electric, no trophy.

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Speaker 2: So this is a sneaky important thing. And this is

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Speaker 2: just random luck of the moment as far as who's good,

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Speaker 2: because you're exactly right that the AFC, all the excellent

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Speaker 2: teams are outdoor shitty weather yep. So like, and I

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00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: think that oddly likely works against the Houston Texans ability

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Speaker 2: to compete for championships in that they're not going unless

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00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: they get home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They're just

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Speaker 2: not going to be conditioned playing in the AFC South

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Speaker 2: and playing in a dome. The NFC is the opposite,

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Speaker 2: and it is such a unique potential edge Philadelphia has.

645
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Speaker 2: So if you're the Eagles, yep. And for the time

646
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: being now, maybe Washington will get great. They were really

647
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: good last year, and maybe the Giants will get great,

648
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe the Bears will get great, maybe the Packers will

649
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: get great. So this all can change. But for the

650
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: time being, for the Eagles last few years, they have Detroit,

651
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Dallas, whoever wins the South, Tampa. So they

652
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: are in a spot where if we can get home field,

653
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: whoever's coming here ain't built for this shit, right, So,

654
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: like the AFC, home field matters a little less for

655
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Cincinnati because it's like, all right,

656
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: no matter what, this is gonna be a pain in

657
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: the ass, tough, like we're all we're all built our teams,

658
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: knowing that the NFC, it's just how it turned. Where

659
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: the Lions are in a dome and the Rams have

660
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: so that can change, but for the time being, it

661
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: makes it to wear. For Philadelphia specifically, home field advantage

662
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: is wildly valuable, wildly valuable.

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Speaker 1: And now it's time for power players. Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by bmw the Ultimate Driving Machine, and today's power player

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Speaker 1: is shay Gilgess Alexander, who gave an electric performance and

666
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Speaker 1: Oka sees beat down to the Nuggets SGA eleven of

667
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: thirteen from the field and eleven of eleven from the line,

668
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: leading the thunder with thirty four points and eight assists.

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Speaker 1: What is that that sets apart these power players from

670
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: the rest? Bottom line, it's their attention to detail, innovative

671
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: playing styles, and a relentless drive for performing at the

672
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: highest level. The same goes for bmwix. Everything you love

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: about the Ultimate Driving Machine electrify. So I want to

674
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Speaker 1: throw something out here. It's I want to go back

675
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Speaker 1: to the NBA and Draymond Green obviously part of the volume,

676
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: and you know, there's certainly an argument he's I think

677
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: he's the best defensive player ever. I mean his ability

678
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: to take Shengon out of games to give I mean

679
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: give to give Yannis massive problems. Now to give you

680
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: the great of Yokich. He just waves the white flag

681
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: on Jokich, just like I can't do anything either, Cad

682
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. By the way, Anthony would hold him to

683
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Speaker 1: twenty eight and Anthony was like, I played really good

684
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: and he did so, I mean Jokicch's I mean, Draymond

685
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: gives Jannis issues. He gives everybody issues. But one of

686
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: the brilliant things about Draymon, and I think it's purposeful

687
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: and intentional, he moves the line. So it's almost like,

688
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: if you're a parent, you don't want to yell at

689
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: your kids all the time. So the kid that's a

690
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: little inappropriate is constantly consciously or subconsciously testing his parents

691
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: what he can get away with, and at some time,

692
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: at some point, you as a parent will be harder

693
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: on the good natured, well behaved kid who infrequently makes

694
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: a mistake. Then the kid that's always in trouble. When

695
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I watched Draymond play, Mike Breen pointed this out. Draymon

696
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: has moved a line that he did something the other

697
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: night where people on the air were defending him, and

698
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, nobody would get away.

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Speaker 2: And so I've said this for a long time, So listen,

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Speaker 2: Draymond and I have a very complicationship is not even

701
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: the right word, but it's complicated because I am very

702
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: tight with a number of people who love Draymond Green,

703
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: who swear by Draymond Green, who and Draymond does not,

704
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: you know, have an affinity for me, and I have

705
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: been critical of him in the past, but everyone people

706
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: whose opinion I really trust and value say off the

707
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: court one of the best dudes ever. So it's a

708
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: weird dynamic there. Simultaneously, I have said that I thought

709
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: he should have won three straight Defensive Player of the

710
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: Year awards back when Kawhi won two of them, and

711
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: and I do think he is one of the most

712
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: brilliant defensive players of all time. And I'm on the

713
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: record that I thought he, not Clay, was the second

714
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 2: most important person of the pre KD Warriors totally here

715
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: is the other piece of it. There is no player

716
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: in NBA history who is given more leeway than and

717
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: this is an important qualifier Draymond Green after getting one technico.

718
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think the Warriors are their most dangerous if

719
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: Draymond gets a technical early. And I know Draymond is

720
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: his most devastating defensively when he has five fouls, because

721
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: if Draymond gets to five fouls, he does not foul

722
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Speaker 2: out at six, he fouls out at nine, he gets

723
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: three more off damn it, like we're gonna let it go.

724
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: And Draymond with one technical can follow the ref up

725
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: and down the court doing anything, and a ref doesn't

726
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: want to throw him out. And so there is no

727
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: question that the guys the NBA refs do a I

728
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: think one of the things they need to do better

729
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: about is guys who never complain get a quick trigger

730
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Speaker 2: on text the one time they do, and guys who

731
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: always whine and yell and complain. The refs seem to

732
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: turn a deaf ear to with the it. Oddly, it

733
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: doesn't really feel like it applies to Luca because I

734
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: think Luca actually really irritates the refs because here's the

735
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: difference between Luca and Draymond. Draymond is complaining or yelling

736
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: about calls that go against him, Luca is yelling about

737
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: calls he does not get. And for some reason, right

738
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: I think refs are way more bothered by what Luca

739
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: does than what.

740
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: Luca is saying, you missed it. Ramond is arguing, I

741
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it effort, but you want.

742
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: The wrong way to do it right exactly Raymond. Draymond

743
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: is saying I'm innocent. Luca is saying you're guilty, and

744
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: so the refs seem to hate Luca, and with Draymond,

745
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: they're like, ah, Draymond's being Draymond. But there's also it's

746
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: not just it's not just on text. I'm gonna tell like,

747
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: people can look up the game log and they will

748
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 2: see it. It's a really so Draymond right now has

749
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: two flagrant foul points, yes, four, and you're suspended that

750
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: happened him in twenty sixteen. You get one for a

751
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: flagrant one, you get two for a flagrant two. In

752
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: Warriors Rockets game seven, early on, Draymond got fouled and

753
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: then swiped his hand and hit I think it was Fred.

754
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: It was definitely it was Fred van Vliet, and the

755
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: refs went and reviewed it and they said foul on

756
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet and then dead ball technical on Draymond

757
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: for hitting him in the face, with the justification being

758
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: it can't be a flagrant because the play was over

759
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: technically over by a quarter of a second, so it's

760
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 2: a technical. The very next game played in the NBA,

761
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: Jokic got fouled by lou Dort and Jokic hit him

762
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: in the head, and the ref went and reviewed it

763
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: and they said foul on lou Dort, flagrant on Joker.

764
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that is the exact thing that Draymond,

765
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: literally the exact thing, and it was a different rule interpretation,

766
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: and that was I know it in my bones because

767
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: the refs were aware. Oh shit, Draymond is a If

768
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: we give him this flagrant, then on his next flagrant,

769
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: which he is guaranteed to get at some point, he'll

770
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: be suspended for a game. So let's just give him

771
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: a technical. And so listen, if you can get away

772
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: with it, it's smart. He can get away with it.

773
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: And when Draymond, there was just a I should have

774
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: pulled it. There was an amazing graphic today one of

775
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: those little dot charts where it was players since the

776
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: two minute Report has existed, players who have benefited the most.

777
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: And it was like Mahomes one of the NFL quarter charts,

778
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 2: like where there's like a whole bunch of dots here

779
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: on this line, and then right here's Mahomes through five

780
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: years or whatever where he breaks the chart. It was

781
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: Draymond that not a by three standard deviations. No player

782
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: has had more calls where the two minute Report says, yeah,

783
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: that should have been a foul on them and we

784
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: missed it than Draymond. He so he he has mind

785
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: melded the refs into I'm such a great defender, I

786
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: probably didn't fall him and gets away with all of it.

787
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: And it's and I give him credit because it's the

788
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: only way to the only way a guy with his

789
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: shooting ability, his height, his limited athleticism could become a

790
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer is playing this way. And

791
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: he did it. He's done it.

792
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: It's it's like the great salesman who's not great on

793
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: the details, and you know, like and after a while

794
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: is his boss. You're like, well, you know, it's he

795
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: is so good at this, I will acknowledge I will

796
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: eat that. And I think Draymond is so good and

797
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 1: is so respected for his defense that I think that's

798
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: just natural. I just think that's that's why we don't have.

799
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: You know, in baseball, you do need a robot behind

800
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: the plate. But in basketball, it's like I always say,

801
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: officiating basketball is officiating pass interference. In the NFL you

802
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: could call double yes. But here's the other thing. Have

803
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: I ever told you my Jerry Sloan story? So for

804
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: a year, you know how I love theories. So for

805
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: years I could never figure out why the Utah Jazz,

806
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: in that ten year Stockton Malone run, we're such an

807
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: average road team. I'm like, I mean, the Celtics now

808
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: are better on the road than at home. All great

809
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: teams are good on the road, excellent at home. The

810
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: Jazz were great at home and kind of five hundred

811
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: ish regularly on the road. I could never figure it out.

812
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: And then John Ireland, voice of the Lakers night, we're

813
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: talking one night and he goes, do you remember Jerry

814
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: Sloan as a player? And Sloan was like this inartistic bully.

815
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: He was a foul machine. He was a tough guy.

816
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: He and Bobby Jones. They were like in fights when

817
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the NBA in the seventies would like allow it. You know,

818
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: it was just games weren't televised. The league was much rougher,

819
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: so officials who never want to call every foul, especially

820
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: in a raucous home environment, kind of gave the Jazz

821
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of a home pass. They were the

822
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: most aggressive, handsy team. And then on the road it's

823
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: about six five or six different calls a game, especially late,

824
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: you're getting flagged for that. And that's just the way

825
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: officials are because the proc somebody of fans to floor

826
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: is so close. And so this Jazz team which was

827
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: so handsy, that was Jerry. That was, by the way, Stockton,

828
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: some says, the dirtiest player ever.

829
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: Dirtiest player ever.

830
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Hornseeck was a grabber. Malone was always laid with

831
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: the elbows. Yeah, of course. So so they're the one

832
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: team where they would go on the road and about

833
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: six times a game they would get the other team

834
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: got into the bonus and I was like, oh, I

835
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: hate that. I couldn't figure that out. So there is

836
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: something to be said about there, and you're not mentioning

837
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: this Draymond gets even more latitude at home.

838
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah no, And it's what you can get away with,

839
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: is what you can get away with. And I just

840
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: the thing that I who was I talking about this? Oh?

841
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: This was a Shore Sanders take I had, but I'll

842
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: give it to you because it applies to Draymond kind

843
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: of loosely. But we go at wherever on the show.

844
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: So one of the greatest, in my opinion, one of

845
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: the greatest radio shows in America. And it has now

846
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: been on You'll be more impressed by this than anyone

847
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: for twenty three years. Running in the same market is

848
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: a show called The Church of Laslow and it's on.

849
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: It used to be on an alternative rock station. It's

850
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: now on a regular rock station. Doesn't matter, but their

851
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: frequency just changed. But it's been this dude, Laslow and

852
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: his buddy slim Fast. I was their sports guy for

853
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: years and Laslow, I'm gonna tell a real you know,

854
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: quick tangent. People like it. Laslow is to me. He

855
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: was one of my mentors in radio and just also

856
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: one of the coolest stories ever. He was from Detroit,

857
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: alcoholic drug addict, went to the Navy. I think got

858
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: kicked out of the Navy because of those two things

859
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: I just mentioned. I don't again, I might get his

860
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: story something wrong, kind of was always a mess, always

861
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: did radio and then got sober, started this state and

862
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: is like a wild liberal on the radio in Kansas City, Missouri,

863
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: where when he started his show every single day he

864
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: would start a show by saying, it has been X

865
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: amount of days since George W. Bush declared mission accomplished

866
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: in Iraq and then went on and he has. He's

867
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: on the air to this day because he's so talented,

868
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: and they're so I think it's the funniest show in America.

869
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: So say all that. So when I first started in radio,

870
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: they were down the hall. They had actually just come

871
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: back from Seattle where they used to be simulcast in

872
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: Seattle and Kansas City.

873
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: And.

874
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: Laslow said to me, He's like, listen man. And this

875
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: wasn't his original theory, but he was the first person

876
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: I had heard it from. I'm like twenty four. He's like,

877
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: you got to know what type of horse you are

878
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: for this company? Like what do you mean? He's like,

879
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: there's three horses in radio. He's like, there's the money horse,

880
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: there's the show horse, and there's the workhorse. He's like,

881
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: and you're gonna screw up if you don't know which

882
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: horse you are, Like, okay, He's like. The money horse

883
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: is the guy who's always going to have a job

884
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: because all the big clients love him. He's like the

885
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: car dealership's his buddy, and this guy and so he

886
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: does all the reads because they all love him. He's safe.

887
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: He's like. The show horse is the guy who they

888
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: want to be able to put on the billboard the

889
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 2: name we got. He's like, he's usually like someone who

890
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: does you know, a former athlete or does local TV,

891
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: and they feels like a celebrity. He's like, none of

892
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: the advertisers know who the hell you are and nobody

893
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: knows your name. He's like, that just leaves the workhorse.

894
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: He's like, and that's what it sounds like. You're gonna

895
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: keep your job because you're gonna work harder than everybody.

896
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: Do you need me to pick up that shift? I

897
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: can do this, I can do that. You're also gonna work,

898
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna know everything, Like that's your path, man, And

899
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: honest to god, it's one of the most important conversations

900
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: I've ever had in my career because I was like, Okay,

901
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: that's who I'm gonna be. And he was telling me this,

902
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: He's like, you think you're the show horse. You think

903
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: like you're a big name. He's like, but you're not.

904
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: Maybe one day you will be, but you're not. And

905
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: that I was going to say this because Draymond recognized

906
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: early on, I'm the workhorse. I've got to do the

907
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: dirty work. I got to do all this. But the

908
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: more interesting part of it is the Shadoor thing, which

909
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: is Shador fell in the draft because he thought he

910
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: was a show horse and teams were looking at him

911
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: as are you a workhorse? And he thought, I'm Sudore Sanders,

912
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm interviewing you. I've got all these people competing for

913
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: my services. And they looked at it as you're Shadoor Sanders.

914
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: Are you gonna pick up this mistake we put in

915
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: the film? Are you gonna know the playbook? Are you

916
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: gonna do this? And if you don't know the job

917
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: you're applying for, how do you nail the interview? And

918
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: so I think that is like a really it's a

919
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: really something I've just carried with me forever, like poignant

920
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: piece of advice which is it doesn't so much matter

921
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: how you view yourself. It matters in an employment setting.

922
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: It matters how your employer or potential employer views you

923
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: and are you representing that? Are you you know? And

924
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: so that I think was Shador's biggest mistake is he

925
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: didn't know what job he was interviewing for and he

926
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: didn't know who he was.

927
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: To these teams, well, and I'll throw something at you.

928
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: I one of the things why we didn't get an

929
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: honest read because clearly Pittsburgh never viewed him. They viewed

930
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: him as Kenny Pickett. Daniel Jeremiah said that when his

931
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: intel was that they viewed him is a little better

932
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: than Kenny Pickett as a prospect. Well, Kenny Pickett by

933
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: the two GMS, two of the gms in the league

934
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: that I really respect, one of them with a couple

935
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: of trophies, viewed Kenny Pickett as a top to middle

936
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: of the third quarterback. And that's exactly what he is.

937
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: He's a backup and an occasional starter if somebody gets hurt,

938
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: which is his role potentially in Cleveland. I don't think

939
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: he'll be there long, but that's his current role. So

940
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: the reason that Shadur didn't get an honest evaluation is

941
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: because Dion Sanders knows so many people in the NFL,

942
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: and he's worked at many broadcast companies, and nobody wanted

943
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: to be honest. This is what I've always said about bullies,

944
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: and Dion is not a bully. The downside to being

945
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: forceful and intimidating it in a bully is you actually

946
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: get lied to by everybody in your life because nobody

947
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: wants confrontation. People don't like it, your wife doesn't, your

948
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: kids don't. So the big brash bully, the top sales guy,

949
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: the egomaniac Bobby Knight in his prime, never got an

950
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: honest opinion because he intimidated people. So you're much better

951
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: having relationships where you ask questions. You don't always have

952
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: an opinion where people feel free to criticize you, and

953
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: that that will give you a more honest appraisal of

954
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: who you truly are and what you need to accomplish.

955
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Bullies get lied to more than anybody. Although they think

956
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: they're always demanding and getting the truth, the exact opposite

957
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: is true. They have visions of they're deluded to a

958
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: degree because they're always being told yes, you're right and

959
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: absolutely and all. So the other group that never gets

960
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: an honest appraisal are superstars and celebrities. You know, nobody ever,

961
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: nobody ever told George Clooney in his prime, eh, you're

962
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: not really, it's not working for me on this because

963
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: he was so big you didn't want to piss him

964
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: and his his you know, it's like Leonardo DiCaprio in

965
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: his prime. Don't offend him. That won't go well. And

966
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: so being a superstar, Dion's like a superstar. I mean,

967
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: he's doing commercials with Nick Saban and he's a five

968
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: hundred coach in Colorado. That's all you need to know, right,

969
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: So so I think that's what hurt should do, is

970
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: nobody just came out and just said and and by

971
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: the way, arch Manning may get a little bit of

972
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: this too, is that people are nobody's going to come

973
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: out and say, I gotta be honest. He couldn't beat

974
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: out Quinn yours. There's a reason he's he's okay.

975
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: So I oh, well, that's well, that's a that's a

976
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: I've just assumed darch Manning is a guaranteed top five pick.

977
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: But I so but that, but I don't know as

978
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: Montreal college football as you, and I'm not gonna saying

979
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: that's what you're saying. Here's the other thing. The shitt

980
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: or thing revealed to me, and it's not that I

981
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: needed it revealed. I it was it shined a light

982
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: on we have traded as a sports public, true insiders

983
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: for instant transactional gratification. We we have valued who is

984
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: going to have this thing that was going to be

985
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: announced by the team in ninety minutes anyway, First over,

986
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: what is actual informational journalism?

987
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: Which is.

988
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Somebody said this, and again I wish I could quote him,

989
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: but I can't. Journalism is publishing or uncovering information that

990
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: otherwise would not get out there. That's what it is,

991
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: Like I this story would remain hidden or fact or

992
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Don Van Nada did a lot of that,

993
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: like Seth Wickersham. We know the people who've done it

994
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: in sports. Simply being the first to say this player

995
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: is signing with this team when that player signing with

996
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: that team was going to become public knowledge. No matter

997
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: what is a different I'm not saying it's not journalism,

998
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: it's a different thing. But that is the thing that

999
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: we in the general public seemingly value because that is

1000
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: the thing that people get paid for and get famous

1001
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: for as reporters. The only way to these days do

1002
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: that job really well is to have everyone like you,

1003
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: which is why in modern sports journalism, every draft pick

1004
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: is great, every surgery is ahead of schedule, every MRI

1005
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: was better than expected, and everything is pop positive. Every

1006
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: single thing is positive. And so no the fact that

1007
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: none of our insiders said, I've talked to fifteen teams

1008
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: and twelve of them don't have Shador in their top

1009
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: fifty like nobody had this, nobody had like it was.

1010
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: It went from is he going to be the first pick?

1011
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: To okay, it'll be cam Ward, but then you know

1012
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: Shador Giants, Browns too, Oh shit, he might slide to

1013
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: the Saints. And then by draft day it was wow,

1014
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: what does it mean for Aaron Rodgers because Shador could

1015
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: maybe be there at twenty one and they could draft him.

1016
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: The entirety of the NFL world nobody had he He'll

1017
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: be very fortunate if he is taken with the Browns

1018
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: or Giants second pick. Not one person. And by the way,

1019
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm not I obviously didn't have it. I'm an acting like

1020
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: I had it, but I'm on an insider, and so

1021
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 2: I found that really telling that, man, what information are

1022
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 2: we actually getting? Like, what is the real real and

1023
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: are the guys who actually have the real information? Well,

1024
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: I know the truth here, but it's not worth it

1025
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 2: because it'll piss the wrong relationships, agents, teams, whatever off.

1026
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: And so I also think that what is so stunning

1027
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: about this and this last thing I'll say, because I

1028
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: know now we're a month old on it, it is

1029
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: shocking that Dion didn't have the information either, that nobody

1030
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: privately told Dion.

1031
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: That's right, that's the downside, like a bully of being

1032
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: a beloved superstar.

1033
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: Hey man, you're so like, listen, maybe they're all wrong,

1034
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: but the league has real questions of whether or not at

1035
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: your son's a starter. So you got to tell him

1036
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: he's got to blow their socks off in this because

1037
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: Dion is whatever anyone thinks of Dion, he's obviously a loving,

1038
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: devoted father, that's undeniable. Yeah, and he just he got

1039
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: he had didn't have the information, that's right.

1040
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: Think about that. Think of how many friends he has

1041
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and not a single person I'm telling

1042
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: you arch Manning be very careful. The Mannings are American

1043
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: football royalty. Will now, I will say there's a little less.

1044
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: They've got their own egos. But Dion's always been over

1045
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: the top, you know, he's been He's going sure almost

1046
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: at times a wrestling heel like he loves to, you know.

1047
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: And the Mannings, you know, with Arch he's been backing

1048
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: up quinn Ewers, who he's clearly better than. And they

1049
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: never transferred they I mean, so they've handled it with grace,

1050
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's the Mannings brand. But I I this,

1051
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: this really does go back to bullies and superstars. You'd

1052
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: think they'd get the inside info. They're lied to more

1053
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: than everybody else. You know who you don't lie to, Uh,

1054
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: your cranky neighbor who you don't love, but you're gonna

1055
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: tell him don't mow the grass at six o'clock on

1056
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: a Saturday. You're gonna give him a real honest, cranky opinion.

1057
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: The people that you don't have anything to lose, like,

1058
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: just people that you don't adore. You're always willing to say, Bro,

1059
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: that's not going to work, don't do that.

1060
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: Correct.

1061
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: That's hard to say to a Manning or a Dion Sanders.

1062
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: That's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so we all make mistakes, but owning up to

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Speaker 1: them is the right thing to do. So, you know

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Speaker 1: Degree cool Rush deodorant right, Well, last year they changed

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Speaker 1: the formula and it did not go over well with

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Speaker 1: their fans. So Degrees the whole thing is it turns

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Speaker 1: up the sweat and odor protection when you turn up

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Speaker 1: the effort, and good thing it does. Because cool Rush

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Speaker 1: fans really turned up the effort to bring the original

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Speaker 1: formula back. One guy even started an online petition and

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Speaker 1: Degree listened. They admitted they ft up. They're bringing back

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Speaker 1: the original cool Rush scent. They're bringing it back and

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Speaker 1: it's exactly how you remember it, cool, crisp and fresh.

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Speaker 1: It's back in Walmart, Target and other stores now for

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Speaker 1: under four dollars. There's a reason that's been the number

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Speaker 1: one men's anti pursperant for the last decade. It's the

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Speaker 1: same reason why people were not happy when it changed.

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Speaker 1: So if you've never tried it, it might be a

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: good time to see what the fuss is about. Head

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Speaker 1: to your local Walmart, Target and try the og degree

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Speaker 1: cool Rush for yourself. You know, finally, you gotta bless

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy fans heart. They're so excited for George Pickens.

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Speaker 1: And I was saying this today when Kyle Shanahan said,

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Speaker 1: I can't make Trey Lance work. I made Matt shab

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler, Brock Purdy, I got into a Super Bowl, Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: I got to a Super Bowl. I can't make Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance work. And the Cowboys were like, ooh, here's a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Okay. When Warren Buffett says, be careful

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Speaker 1: with bitcoin, I'm careful with bitcoin. When Mike Tomlin says

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Speaker 1: about a receiver, listen, I can't make it work, Chase Claypool,

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Speaker 1: Ab Martavius Bryan, I mean, the list goes, Downte Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Doonha Johnson, if Mike Tomlin, who is two things, great

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Speaker 1: motivator and incredibly patient with immature players. When Mike says, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm out doubt. But Jerry, this is a personality trait.

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Speaker 1: Jerry loves to save. He loves to give people jobs

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01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: that need him. Chan Gaily, Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 1: They feel like Jerry Jerry is saving that he's giving

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Speaker 1: him job that's not available. McCarthy couldn't get interviews parcels,

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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson didn't need him that war. Jimmy out

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott fourth round. He loves hey Tony Romo undrafted.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys never draft quarterbacks in the first round. They don't

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Speaker 1: need Jerry. So when he goes and gets George Pickens,

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Speaker 1: who the reputation is out Basically Tomlin, I'm out, Jerry's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'll make it work. I think this is

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Speaker 1: Jerry's wildcatting oil days where he would hunt for gems,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is literally his mindset with coaches

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Speaker 1: and sometimes draft picks and players is that he feels

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Speaker 1: like Pickens, He's He's the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the league is out.

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Speaker 1: I am in, and I don't think long term. I

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Speaker 1: think that's why the Cowboys are where the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: currently in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I think that George Pickens is one of the more

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Speaker 2: overrated players in the whole league. And the reason I

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01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,919
Speaker 2: feel that way is because I think certain football fans

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Speaker 2: this is one of my This is one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite and kind of relatively newest take, which is talent

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Speaker 2: has become wildly overrated and particularly particularly in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you need a requisite level of talent. That goes

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Speaker 2: without saying, however, this idea that talent is some cure

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Speaker 2: all when this guy has been a pain in the

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Speaker 2: ass every step of his football life. It is why

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Speaker 2: he fell on the draft. It is why you were

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Speaker 2: hearing rumors about him being available during his second year.

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Speaker 2: During his third year, he was traded here. It is

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Speaker 2: the he It's you know, when you are potentially trying

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Speaker 2: to get a contract in the offseason and your team

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Speaker 2: is in the middle of a losing streak, and you

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Speaker 2: show up to the Christmas Day game against the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs ninety minutes before kickoff, you show up three

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Speaker 2: hours before your TV show Colin you have two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty of them a year. He's got seventeen football games,

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Speaker 2: and he like, you're just not a serious person and

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Speaker 2: you're not going to contribute to winning the way your

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Speaker 2: talent says you should. And so there's that. There is

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Speaker 2: also the fact that trading a third round pick for

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Speaker 2: a player with one year left on his contract means

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Speaker 2: you probably should give him a contract extension. The only

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Speaker 2: thing worse in my opinion than trading a third round

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Speaker 2: pick for one year of George Pickens than letting him

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Speaker 2: be a free agent is giving that guy fifty million guarantee.

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Speaker 2: So the Cowboys put themselves in a position where it's

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Speaker 2: no win. Do we pay this guy early when he

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01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: has never he's never been the top ten in the

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Speaker 2: NFL of anything. He's like, his career numbers are pedestrian.

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Speaker 2: He's never outpaced his production, has never outpaced his targets, right, and.

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Speaker 1: He quits routes, which quarterbacks just.

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Speaker 2: To routs and is a million gets unnecessary, a million

1151
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: problems there. So you can't pay him. But the other

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: thing you shouldn't do is a smart franchise is keep

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Speaker 2: trading these mid round picks for rentals. And so I

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Speaker 2: two years ago, Colin the Chiefs ended up winning the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But two years ago, when the Chiefs had

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Speaker 2: nothing but drops everywhere and the receivers couldn't do anything,

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Speaker 2: Pickens was available then, and Wilds and Bru couldn't believe me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want him. I was like,

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs already are on thin ice with Kadarius Tony,

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Speaker 2: like they you know, and they got they got the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs trade for Canarius Tony. They gave up a fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick, he had three years left on his deal,

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Speaker 2: and that's still Listen. He had the amazing partner turn

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Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl, but he's still ultimately got can't

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: get right. Guys can't get right, and so I I'm

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Speaker 2: not a Pickens guy. I also think he's a somewhat

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01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: overrated player. And I also think, for if Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: had a hard time keeping him inside the lines, Brian

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Speaker 2: Schottenheimer in his first year as a head coach, how

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Speaker 2: much of Brian Schottenneimer's time is going to be about

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Speaker 2: Mike's podcast and whatever the hell George Pickens did? A

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Speaker 2: lot of it?

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Speaker 1: Is they if a rehab centers like we're done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We're out of here exactly where it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Nick, Right, great hour, buddy, Great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Colin The.

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