WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Tamar Braxton Talks 'Heartbreak Retrograde,' Healing, Relationship With Sisters, Greif; Traci + More 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:05.279 Every day, Breakfast Club. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:07.520 Morning. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.120 Everybody is d j Envy, just hilarious, Charlamage the guy. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.040 We are the Breakfast Club Law and the Roses here 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.600 as well. We got a special guest in the buildings 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.480 in a new album, Heartbreak. Heartbreak Retrograde is out right now, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:20.240 ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.000 Tamar Braxton, welcome. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:35.400 Back, Hey friends, you look good. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.960 How you doing the kids? Kids? I want great? It 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:40.360 is great. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.440 Yeah, he's on break and so you know I can't 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.279 even reach him. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.080 Not mad at you. You got a lot going on 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.080 new albums. I'm going positivity. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.600 This is great break retro grade. Yes, what does retrograde 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.480 mean to you? Like emotionally, well, you know, like. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.400 Mercury retro grade. And so it's like a long period 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.240 of time where like things are just like not adding up, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.360 not making sense, where you just like feel like you're 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.679 not yourself. And I chose to take it as something 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.160 that is positive instead of a negative. This is a 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.600 time where I can evolve, I can be myself and 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.720 figure out things. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.199 That will best suit me in the future. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.000 And I feel like I want to say this, you know, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.160 heartbag retrograde was born here. Really the less conversation that 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:33.680 we had about cheating. So Heartbreak Retrograde is about a 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:38.400 woman who cheats on her spouse and breaks her own 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:39.759 heart by breaking his heart. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.640 But you talked about it, you heard about it. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.000 Yeah, so are these old wounds resurfacing? Are you finally 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:47.560 releasing it? 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.360 I'm releasing it, you know. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.200 And I couldn't figure out Remember, I was still feeling 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:52.920 bad about it. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.280 I couldn't talk about it. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.840 I couldn't figure out how to break it. And you know, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.920 putting together this project along with the movie was very 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.480 therapeutic for me, and so I'm just so grateful about it. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.200 Do you have a call that Xcent and have that conversation? 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:11.440 I did. How did that go? Well? Okay? 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.120 So we went out to lunch and I explained to 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.840 him that this was about that portion of the relationship 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.040 and he appreciated that. But there were some things about 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:24.320 the movie that he didn't like. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.079 So you know what's so good about this? I don't know. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.280 You know, twenty twenty five is the year of the snake, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.080 So we got like what fourteen days left to you know, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.520 shed old habits and embrace personal growth just like a 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:38.959 shape a snake shdd you skin? 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.239 Yes, But this album, you know, dine it, he'll. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.560 Me, And I believe like it's sent a lot of 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:44.440 people like, oh my god. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.640 I've listened to it, and I feel like this is 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.200 the medicine that I needed to get over my heartbreak retrograde. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.320 It wasn't he like you said he didn't like parts 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.240 of it? What didn't he like? 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.240 I think that it was a lot of ego, you 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:57.919 know what I mean, because it was based on a 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.760 true story. It wasn't everything that happened been right, and 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.000 so he was just you know, I think it's hard 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.760 to see your ex or somebody that you once cared 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.679 about or care about and like those positions with someone else, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.880 because I'm sure it brought him back to that moment feelings. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.120 When y'all had that dinner, did y'all read did anything 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.600 like sparks pop off and say let's try this again? 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.040 Since we're being so open. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.240 Or not, I don't think that person is healed in 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.959 that capacity for that well. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.320 Not necessarily. It's a long story, I tell y'all off camera. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.880 Because women have that conversation men do exactly, and I 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.880 think it's time to have that conversation. I think we 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.440 need to normalize that it's both of us. That's not 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.360 just men, you know, it's it's women too, because just 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.640 like the same reasons why you know a man will 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.760 cheat is because you know things are not all the 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.600 way together at home, or things all the way together 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.200 with themselves. It's the same thing women go through, the 0:03:54.200 --> 0:04:02.600 same thing. Explain, black men don't cheat? 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:03.120 What did they do? 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.320 It's another word for it us. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.800 No black men, comma don't cheat, like I don't want 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:07.240 black men to. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:08.840 We don't want black men to cheat. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.440 However, thank you, Bill, Tamar. I was wondering if the 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.800 ex you were referring to is in the movie. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.160 You tried it? 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:21.800 No, okay, wondering because absolutely not. All right, y'all, y'all 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.680 don't believe that. I wasn't talking about that because you 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.479 want to bring the ship up, because I know y'all 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.840 can't wait so like, but let's just talk about common sense. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.599 And first of all, we've been known each other a 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.360 long time. Let's can we stop that. We can we 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.160 dead that now, okay, because I'm just I'm just gonna 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.719 be honest about that. Has never been a man who 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.479 has experienced tamor who didn't want to marry me, and 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.599 so if that was the case, he would be over here. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.800 Everybody cliar, Now let's. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:54.479 Move on, get them together, Lauren, I'm like, who I 0:04:54.560 --> 0:05:00.360 was talking about Vince because he's in the theship advice? 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.760 Yeah he is, he is, But I didn't know if 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.840 The reason why I asked that is because because he's 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.360 in the your visual giving you relationship advice, and just 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.839 people seeing him on screen again, we always just wonder, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.680 you know, where the relationship is, like what that looks like. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:14.760 So I didn't know if that was the person you 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.400 had to sit down. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:23.320 That's cousin, and that's where that stops, cousin. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.360 So when you set to that point, you're in a 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:25.760 good place. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.240 He's a family member and. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.040 That's that on that are you watch the video with Ben, 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.360 I saw him hand taking pictures, you know, Vince being. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.480 The pictures they was killing. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.680 Was sitting in the background like they go, Vince back 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:41.440 there with his mouth over. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.200 We love it. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.240 With this album about reliving heartbreak or reclaiming your. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.400 Power from it, it was about taking accountability, you know, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:58.080 and being responsible for someone's hurt that I caused. And 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:59.719 like I said, when I was here, I felt really bad. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.200 That's feel when it like zoned in on me, like, wow, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.320 I really did hurt a person that bad, and I'm 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.440 you know, I'm really sorry for that. And I hope 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.159 that that person doesn't take that into you know, their future. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.360 I hope it doesn't stifle their growth and like really 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:12.360 truly finding love. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.599 Was he surprised when you called to have dinner and 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.440 talk about it, because a lot of times they say 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.440 women don't apologize, So was he shocked and surprise? 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:20.040 Hmmm? 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:21.919 I don't. I don't know. I can't. I don't know 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:22.960 if I can answer that. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:23.599 I don't know. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.440 I also don't think men cheap because you said that earlier. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.160 But I don't think men cheap because there's something. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:28.560 Wrong at home. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.040 I do. I think there's something that's missing. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.920 I think it's something missing within you as a name. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.960 Agree you think so? You think it's all about the man. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.520 Has nothing to do with the women, it's nothing to 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.919 do with the connection with another person. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.640 I think every situation is different. But I think a 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.039 lot of times man trying to feed his ego, you 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.600 know what I mean? And I think that's the main 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.520 I think men need to grow up at times, and 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.200 I don't think they've got to the place where they 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.080 understand what the word love really means, what it really is. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.800 Because you don't really love yourself correct and it's like, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.240 you know, it's like pouring water into a cup that 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.680 ain't got no bottom. So you just constantly think he's 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.760 feeling it's feeling, it's feeling it. That's why most of 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.440 the time you feel very empty after you you know. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.120 But what if you can't reach that other person, what 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.599 if you can't reach your partner. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:08.960 That's a different circumstances. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.520 I'm not saying that there can't be times when you 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.400 know it's problems at home, but it's really the guy, Well, I. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.280 Learned something today. I didn't know that. Okay, how did. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:19.960 You feel like on the other side, Like did you 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.680 feel like it was something missing or did you like, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.600 was there like some self searching you had to do 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.600 when you decided. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:34.120 To some healing that I needed to address. And also 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.720 I was just really confused. And then, if I'm being honest, 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.119 I just wasn't ready. I just wasn't ready. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.640 Was there any moments while you was recording this album 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.360 where you had to stop because it was too real? 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:48.280 Yeah? 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.239 A lot and and the film too. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.400 Because it just brought back a lot, Like I'm gonna 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:54.960 tell you one part that was really, really real. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.280 Did he shifted once again? You shifted my uterus? That 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.880 is what he read. Oh that was the real text. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:01.360 That was real. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.760 You got explained to for the people. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.840 So you know what the means having flashbacks. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.480 He shifted your u again again. I'll just say that 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.120 like that's such a hard thing down. I'm just saying 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:21.680 you already cheated him. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:27.280 I know when a woman like really understands and falls 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.760 into her masculine energy, we become you all. And that's 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.760 what that text was. I was just basically macin. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.320 Pussy wedding in yours the way I never told a girl. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.000 I've never told a woman that. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:44.600 Is wetter than you were. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.679 Imagine you imagine a man cheated on you and then 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.920 told you that the woman he cheated with pussy was wedding. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:56.920 Oh okay, is that equivalent. I'm just trying to hurt 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.880 you because no, no, no, he went through my phone. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.120 And read that, and did you clear that with the 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.640 person that you actually your ex before you put that 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.240 in the visual, because that I know that still hurts. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.120 And he had to watch it. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 Yeah, but you know, I only have to address it 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.199 with honesty. You can't have accountability without honesty. I had 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.520 to have honesty, that's it. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.840 That's it. I had to address what I know that 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:22.320 hurt you. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:24.480 That's different. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:34.240 I'm damn. I had to go get pilet surgery after that. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.920 I wish we could get a. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:43.360 Ppling now though, Thank you. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:45.680 Jesus Christ. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.400 So okay. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.679 The way that the album lines up, in a way 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.600 the visual goes, it tells the story right because in 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.760 the beginning, it's like you're happy, It's like you're y'all 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.800 are just discovering each other. When you know you know 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.960 is the first song individual. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:09:59.360 Writing. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.560 When you know you know about your ex? What is 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.600 it that you discovered you lost? From that point to 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.120 the point where you get to like, you know, uh, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.760 letter to Alleo man, what you mean, like what what 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.280 changed in your relationship? 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:15.680 Like at that point of what change in you? 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.680 Where you were like, okay, I just was so sure 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.040 about this, and then it went from so short to 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.240 like you mess somebody else and you just completely forgot 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:22.640 about what you. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.120 Were sure about. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:27.720 I didn't meet nobody else. I basically revisited something that 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.920 I was completely over. And if I'm being honest, I 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.120 was honest with that person about that. When we first 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.120 started dating. You know, we were still talking, but we wasn't. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.400 We were still platonic, but I still had feelings. And 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:47.240 I told that person else for the uterus shift, you're 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.319 something else. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.040 Yeah, what devastated? 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.000 Explain? Yeah, what's that conversation like then? 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.800 Like when y'all first meet up and you're like, Okay, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.079 I want you to know I still got so much 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:01.560 from my ex. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:03.000 Yeah, but I. 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.600 Never thought that I would act on them. I just 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.000 thought that there were feelings that would eventually go away. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:12.000 Does that make sense because we kind of I think 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.440 that when we're in the single outside moment, sometimes we 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.760 go into situations having unresolved feelings, right that you never 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.559 think that you're going to like revisit. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.160 And I think that's honest, and I think that's normal. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.200 You're not gonna like especially if you really, you really 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.200 truly love a person to spend time with the person, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.360 it just doesn't go away overnight. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:32.120 That's why you. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.440 Can't be laying down with everybody because you really do 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.000 be exchanging and you really did. There is a piece 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.480 of you that you know you have shared with that 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.199 person level like you can people. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.079 Yeah, but I was after I was very very sure 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.520 that I wanted to be with the other person the 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.840 person after that X, I was very very sure. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.920 And does it hurt you to talk about it over 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.360 and over and over again? Does that body or not? 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:53.760 I'm completely healed. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.640 Yeah, so safer on the app on the project, right, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.280 you talk about like I feel safer besides you, you 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:01.800 make me want a pressure wine? 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.000 Or which person? 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:03.600 Are you? Both? 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:07.600 And boy? 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.880 Been in love with two people at the same time? Yes, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.880 you have, Yes, you have. What do you mean, No, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.120 of course you have. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.040 A long time. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.679 Get what I'm saying, Like it's a couple weeks ago, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:26.160 But no, that's not true. That's I mean you outside, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.920 So you kind of got to have a rosterapasta, no outside, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:29.960 not no more. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.439 But my last relationship before I became single. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.160 A variety of ball of variety that. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.160 At the time my last situation before I became single, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.760 I was experiencing like, how the heck am I still have. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:45.360 Love for you? 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.600 But in love or feeling like I might be able 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.360 to be in love with a person again, Like is 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.920 that a thing? Like I was kind of like confused, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.520 and I know you had that conversation and your visual 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.640 as well, like what is happening right now because you 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.360 know it's just butterflies and lies, because a lot of 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.880 times it's not love, it's butterflies and lies. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.280 Or if it's actual love with this new person. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.000 That it was actual love with the new person, but 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.080 I had to button it up with the other one. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:10.360 Does that make sense? 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.280 Yeah, because if you was really truly in love with 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.840 somebody right, your feelings would take overweight when you would 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.520 never want to hurt that person, and you would there 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.360 would be no way that you could love two people 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.440 the same way. Well, one could be an infatuation. One 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.520 could be you just love the dick and the uterus moving. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.120 One could be just the butterfly. Could that please, don't 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.600 don't cook that, whatever you do, don't clik that. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.319 Or it could be the memories. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:35.680 Or what could have been? 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:41.120 And am I walking away from something that is truly 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.000 meant for me? 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:42.800 You know? It? 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.240 Was I mature at the time, Was I you know, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.240 healed at the time, Was I a good enough woman? 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.360 Did I understand myself at the time? It was all 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.160 of those things that I had to figure out. You 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.960 know with those two situations, and I regret that I 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.680 hurt that person, I really do, But I don't regret 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:01.800 that I found myself. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.480 I love this honest conversation. Yeah, I mean I do 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.959 you feel lighter now that this music is ab out? 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.720 Dude? It really truly held me. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.920 It really did you feel exposed in a way, not in. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.839 A scandalous bad way as some people want it to be. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.840 No, if somebody date you now, can they truly believe 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.520 that you're into them and not possibly have feelings for 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.200 an X or possibly. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.360 Well, I was honest with that person. I'm going to 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.560 be honest about it. Hey, we're grown and I hate 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.400 that I'm outside. I don't believe I'm supposed to be. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.840 However I am, and I'm just too old and evolved 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.080 and just secured it to sit around and play a game. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.080 I don't really have time. Well, I was dating for you, now, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.920 how is that going? I'm not really doing a lot 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.720 of it. But outside sucks? 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.440 That sucks? 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.480 You know, that's it? 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.840 Are you intentionally dating? Are you just like having a 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.800 good time again a little fasta pasta. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.120 I am not having a good time. I'm not having 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.280 a good time, but it is what it is. And 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.600 you know, I feel like now I put myself in 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.240 a position to really truly be with my person and 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.480 get it and get all that comes with it, and 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.800 I'm ready for it. And so that situation will never 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.320 ever ever happen to me again. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.120 So what is being light? I feel like because you 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.680 said now that the music is that you feel lighter. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.280 Okay, so you know when you really truly let something go, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.520 guilt go, that's what I feel like. I completely let 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:29.760 it go. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.880 You know, I'm this is the perfect time to do it. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.920 It's comic, it's the year. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.040 It's really. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.200 Nine, and it's a nine year, so nine is the 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.200 highest level to change. So all of this stuff, You're 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.240 literally supposed to shed all of this like a snake shd. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:43.320 So it was supposed to happen. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:44.520 It was supposed to. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.360 It was supposed to have this conversation a few what 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.280 was that eight months ago? To put this record together? 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.440 Get what tricky? Put this record together, make this film, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.480 make my wrongs, try to make my wrongs right and 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:56.600 grow from it. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.880 Wow, but you did make. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:15:59.280 Your wrongs right. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.840 You you you owned up what you have to do. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.880 Now it's on Live the Hill. But you did what 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:04.560 you were supposed to do. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.200 I think, thank you. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.520 So what did heartbreak teach you that, like success, never 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.480 could personally about yourself with the heartbreak? 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.480 Well, I've been let down in both areas. I think 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:19.960 one of them I can control. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:20.920 In one of them, I can't. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.800 Yeah, heartbreak, I can control. That will never happen to 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.440 me again. I will never be heartbroken ever again. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:28.600 How can you control that? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.560 Because I just believe that you're not supposed to give 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.800 all of you. I have to have some of me 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.280 to be whole. If I give you all of me, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.800 then that means I've lost control of myself. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.840 I can't do that. No, I can't show up for you. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.600 I can't show up for me. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:46.840 I can't show up with my kid. I can't show 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:47.240 for your kids. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.120 I cant show up for my businesses and other people 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.280 who need me. I can't give all of me. You 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:52.120 can't have all of me. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:52.680 You know. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.320 I always want to know Tamo with your career. Right, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.280 You're amazing vocalist. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:58.880 Thank you friend. You're just a dope person. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:16:59.080 Right. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.920 Anybody that knows you know you're a dope person. You're 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.040 not stuck up your fun. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.719 You speak to everybody, you hug, everybody, you make amazing music. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.080 Why don't you think you're a bigger artist than you 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.680 are because you're your everything. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.760 I just feel like a line misses, something misses at 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.639 some point. Do you do you know what that is? 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.760 Because even with you go to your ex who. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.840 Found Lady God God, and You've had the record, you 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.879 had the success, but it just seemed like it hasn't 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.000 hit like it's supposed to. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:27.359 Really, I think so. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.600 I think that's awfully kind and true. At the same time, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:37.000 I think that if I'm honest, if that, if that 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.560 is in God's plan for me, I think that will 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.560 absolutely happen. But I am proud of the success that 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.840 I've had thus far because I've sold out all of 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.760 my tours. I'm my own promoter, you know. I have 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:57.840