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Speaker 1: Every day, Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is d j Envy, just hilarious, Charlamage the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club Law and the Roses here

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Speaker 3: as well. We got a special guest in the buildings

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Speaker 3: in a new album, Heartbreak. Heartbreak Retrograde is out right now,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Tamar Braxton, welcome.

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Speaker 4: Back, Hey friends, you look good.

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Speaker 1: How you doing the kids? Kids? I want great? It

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Speaker 1: is great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's on break and so you know I can't

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Speaker 5: even reach him.

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Speaker 1: Not mad at you. You got a lot going on

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Speaker 1: new albums. I'm going positivity.

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Speaker 6: This is great break retro grade. Yes, what does retrograde

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Speaker 6: mean to you? Like emotionally, well, you know, like.

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Speaker 5: Mercury retro grade. And so it's like a long period

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Speaker 5: of time where like things are just like not adding up,

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Speaker 5: not making sense, where you just like feel like you're

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Speaker 5: not yourself. And I chose to take it as something

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Speaker 5: that is positive instead of a negative. This is a

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Speaker 5: time where I can evolve, I can be myself and

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Speaker 5: figure out things.

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Speaker 1: That will best suit me in the future.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like I want to say this, you know,

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Speaker 5: heartbag retrograde was born here. Really the less conversation that

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Speaker 5: we had about cheating. So Heartbreak Retrograde is about a

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Speaker 5: woman who cheats on her spouse and breaks her own

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Speaker 5: heart by breaking his heart.

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Speaker 1: But you talked about it, you heard about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so are these old wounds resurfacing? Are you finally

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Speaker 6: releasing it?

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Speaker 1: I'm releasing it, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't figure out Remember, I was still feeling

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Speaker 5: bad about it.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't talk about it.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out how to break it. And you know,

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Speaker 5: putting together this project along with the movie was very

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Speaker 5: therapeutic for me, and so I'm just so grateful about it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a call that Xcent and have that conversation?

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Speaker 1: I did. How did that go? Well? Okay?

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Speaker 5: So we went out to lunch and I explained to

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Speaker 5: him that this was about that portion of the relationship

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Speaker 5: and he appreciated that. But there were some things about

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Speaker 5: the movie that he didn't like.

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Speaker 2: So you know what's so good about this? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You know, twenty twenty five is the year of the snake,

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Speaker 6: So we got like what fourteen days left to you know,

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Speaker 6: shed old habits and embrace personal growth just like a

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Speaker 6: shape a snake shdd you skin?

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Speaker 2: Yes, But this album, you know, dine it, he'll.

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Speaker 1: Me, And I believe like it's sent a lot of

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Speaker 1: people like, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: I've listened to it, and I feel like this is

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Speaker 5: the medicine that I needed to get over my heartbreak retrograde.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't he like you said he didn't like parts

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Speaker 1: of it? What didn't he like?

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Speaker 5: I think that it was a lot of ego, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, because it was based on a

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Speaker 5: true story. It wasn't everything that happened been right, and

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Speaker 5: so he was just you know, I think it's hard

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Speaker 5: to see your ex or somebody that you once cared

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Speaker 5: about or care about and like those positions with someone else,

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Speaker 5: because I'm sure it brought him back to that moment feelings.

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Speaker 3: When y'all had that dinner, did y'all read did anything

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Speaker 3: like sparks pop off and say let's try this again?

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Speaker 3: Since we're being so open.

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Speaker 5: Or not, I don't think that person is healed in

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Speaker 5: that capacity for that well.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily. It's a long story, I tell y'all off camera.

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Speaker 5: Because women have that conversation men do exactly, and I

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Speaker 5: think it's time to have that conversation. I think we

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Speaker 5: need to normalize that it's both of us. That's not

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Speaker 5: just men, you know, it's it's women too, because just

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Speaker 5: like the same reasons why you know a man will

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Speaker 5: cheat is because you know things are not all the

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Speaker 5: way together at home, or things all the way together

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Speaker 5: with themselves. It's the same thing women go through, the

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Speaker 5: same thing. Explain, black men don't cheat?

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Speaker 1: What did they do?

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Speaker 5: It's another word for it us.

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Speaker 2: No black men, comma don't cheat, like I don't want

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Speaker 2: black men to.

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Speaker 1: We don't want black men to cheat.

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Speaker 8: However, thank you, Bill, Tamar. I was wondering if the

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Speaker 8: ex you were referring to is in the movie.

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Speaker 1: You tried it?

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Speaker 5: No, okay, wondering because absolutely not. All right, y'all, y'all

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Speaker 5: don't believe that. I wasn't talking about that because you

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Speaker 5: want to bring the ship up, because I know y'all

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Speaker 5: can't wait so like, but let's just talk about common sense.

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Speaker 5: And first of all, we've been known each other a

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Speaker 5: long time. Let's can we stop that. We can we

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Speaker 5: dead that now, okay, because I'm just I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: be honest about that. Has never been a man who

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Speaker 5: has experienced tamor who didn't want to marry me, and

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Speaker 5: so if that was the case, he would be over here.

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Speaker 5: Everybody cliar, Now let's.

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Speaker 8: Move on, get them together, Lauren, I'm like, who I

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Speaker 8: was talking about Vince because he's in the theship advice?

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Speaker 8: Yeah he is, he is, But I didn't know if

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Speaker 8: The reason why I asked that is because because he's

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Speaker 8: in the your visual giving you relationship advice, and just

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Speaker 8: people seeing him on screen again, we always just wonder,

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Speaker 8: you know, where the relationship is, like what that looks like.

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Speaker 8: So I didn't know if that was the person you

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Speaker 8: had to sit down.

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Speaker 5: That's cousin, and that's where that stops, cousin.

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Speaker 7: So when you set to that point, you're in a

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Speaker 7: good place.

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Speaker 1: He's a family member and.

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Speaker 5: That's that on that are you watch the video with Ben,

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Speaker 5: I saw him hand taking pictures, you know, Vince being.

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Speaker 6: The pictures they was killing.

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Speaker 2: Was sitting in the background like they go, Vince back

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Speaker 2: there with his mouth over.

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Speaker 1: We love it.

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Speaker 2: With this album about reliving heartbreak or reclaiming your.

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Speaker 5: Power from it, it was about taking accountability, you know,

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Speaker 5: and being responsible for someone's hurt that I caused. And

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Speaker 5: like I said, when I was here, I felt really bad.

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Speaker 5: That's feel when it like zoned in on me, like, wow,

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Speaker 5: I really did hurt a person that bad, and I'm

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm really sorry for that. And I hope

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Speaker 5: that that person doesn't take that into you know, their future.

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Speaker 5: I hope it doesn't stifle their growth and like really

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Speaker 5: truly finding love.

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Speaker 3: Was he surprised when you called to have dinner and

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Speaker 3: talk about it, because a lot of times they say

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Speaker 3: women don't apologize, So was he shocked and surprise?

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Speaker 6: Hmmm?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I can't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I can answer that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I also don't think men cheap because you said that earlier.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think men cheap because there's something.

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Speaker 2: Wrong at home.

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Speaker 1: I do. I think there's something that's missing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's something missing within you as a name.

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Speaker 1: Agree you think so? You think it's all about the man.

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Speaker 5: Has nothing to do with the women, it's nothing to

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Speaker 5: do with the connection with another person.

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Speaker 3: I think every situation is different. But I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of times man trying to feed his ego, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? And I think that's the main

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Speaker 3: I think men need to grow up at times, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think they've got to the place where they

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Speaker 3: understand what the word love really means, what it really is.

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Speaker 6: Because you don't really love yourself correct and it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's like pouring water into a cup that

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Speaker 6: ain't got no bottom. So you just constantly think he's

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Speaker 6: feeling it's feeling, it's feeling it. That's why most of

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Speaker 6: the time you feel very empty after you you know.

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Speaker 5: But what if you can't reach that other person, what

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Speaker 5: if you can't reach your partner.

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Speaker 2: That's a different circumstances.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that there can't be times when you

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Speaker 6: know it's problems at home, but it's really the guy, Well, I.

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Speaker 1: Learned something today. I didn't know that. Okay, how did.

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Speaker 8: You feel like on the other side, Like did you

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Speaker 8: feel like it was something missing or did you like,

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Speaker 8: was there like some self searching you had to do

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Speaker 8: when you decided.

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Speaker 5: To some healing that I needed to address. And also

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Speaker 5: I was just really confused. And then, if I'm being honest,

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Speaker 5: I just wasn't ready. I just wasn't ready.

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Speaker 6: Was there any moments while you was recording this album

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Speaker 6: where you had to stop because it was too real?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A lot and and the film too.

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Speaker 5: Because it just brought back a lot, Like I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: tell you one part that was really, really real.

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Speaker 1: Did he shifted once again? You shifted my uterus? That

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Speaker 1: is what he read. Oh that was the real text.

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Speaker 1: That was real.

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Speaker 7: You got explained to for the people.

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Speaker 3: So you know what the means having flashbacks.

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Speaker 2: He shifted your u again again. I'll just say that

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Speaker 2: like that's such a hard thing down. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: you already cheated him.

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Speaker 5: I know when a woman like really understands and falls

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Speaker 5: into her masculine energy, we become you all. And that's

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Speaker 5: what that text was. I was just basically macin.

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Speaker 2: Pussy wedding in yours the way I never told a girl.

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Speaker 2: I've never told a woman that.

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Speaker 7: Is wetter than you were.

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Speaker 6: Imagine you imagine a man cheated on you and then

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Speaker 6: told you that the woman he cheated with pussy was wedding.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that equivalent. I'm just trying to hurt

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Speaker 1: you because no, no, no, he went through my phone.

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Speaker 8: And read that, and did you clear that with the

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Speaker 8: person that you actually your ex before you put that

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Speaker 8: in the visual, because that I know that still hurts.

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Speaker 7: And he had to watch it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I only have to address it

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Speaker 5: with honesty. You can't have accountability without honesty. I had

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Speaker 5: to have honesty, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I had to address what I know that

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Speaker 1: hurt you.

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Speaker 2: That's different.

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Speaker 1: I'm damn. I had to go get pilet surgery after that.

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Speaker 2: I wish we could get a.

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Speaker 1: Ppling now though, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: So okay.

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Speaker 8: The way that the album lines up, in a way

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Speaker 8: the visual goes, it tells the story right because in

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Speaker 8: the beginning, it's like you're happy, It's like you're y'all

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Speaker 8: are just discovering each other. When you know you know

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Speaker 8: is the first song individual.

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Speaker 7: Writing.

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Speaker 8: When you know you know about your ex? What is

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Speaker 8: it that you discovered you lost? From that point to

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Speaker 8: the point where you get to like, you know, uh,

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Speaker 8: letter to Alleo man, what you mean, like what what

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Speaker 8: changed in your relationship?

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Speaker 7: Like at that point of what change in you?

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Speaker 8: Where you were like, okay, I just was so sure

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Speaker 8: like you mess somebody else and you just completely forgot

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Speaker 8: about what you.

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Speaker 1: Were sure about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what devastated?

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Speaker 7: Explain? Yeah, what's that conversation like then?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's honest, and I think that's normal.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna like especially if you really, you really

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Speaker 2: That's why you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was after I was very very sure

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Speaker 1: And does it hurt you to talk about it over

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so safer on the app on the project, right,

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Speaker 7: Or which person?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Both?

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Speaker 7: A long time.

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Speaker 7: But my last relationship before I became single.

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Speaker 7: Or if it's actual love with this new person.

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Speaker 5: That it was actual love with the new person, but

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Speaker 5: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you was really truly in love with

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Speaker 3: would be no way that you could love two people

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Speaker 3: the same way. Well, one could be an infatuation. One

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Speaker 5: Or it could be the memories.

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Speaker 1: Or what could have been?

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Speaker 5: And am I walking away from something that is truly

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Speaker 4: You know? It?

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Speaker 5: know with those two situations, and I regret that I

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Speaker 2: I love this honest conversation. Yeah, I mean I do

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Speaker 1: Dude? It really truly held me.

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Speaker 3: No, if somebody date you now, can they truly believe

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Speaker 5: Well, I was honest with that person. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: be honest about it. Hey, we're grown and I hate

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Speaker 5: However I am, and I'm just too old and evolved

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Speaker 1: I don't really have time. Well, I was dating for you, now,

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Speaker 1: how is that going? I'm not really doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of it. But outside sucks?

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Speaker 2: That sucks?

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Speaker 7: You know, that's it?

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Speaker 8: Are you intentionally dating? Are you just like having a

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Speaker 5: I am not having a good time. I'm not having

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Speaker 5: I'm ready for it. And so that situation will never

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Speaker 2: So what is being light? I feel like because you

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you know when you really truly let something go,

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Speaker 5: guilt go, that's what I feel like. I completely let

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm this is the perfect time to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's comic, it's the year.

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Speaker 1: It's really.

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Speaker 6: Nine, and it's a nine year, so nine is the

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Speaker 6: highest level to change. So all of this stuff, You're

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Speaker 6: literally supposed to shed all of this like a snake shd.

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Speaker 1: So it was supposed to happen.

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to.

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Speaker 5: It was supposed to have this conversation a few what

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Speaker 5: was that eight months ago? To put this record together?

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Speaker 5: Get what tricky? Put this record together, make this film,

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Speaker 5: make my wrongs, try to make my wrongs right and

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Speaker 5: grow from it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, but you did make.

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Speaker 1: Your wrongs right.

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Speaker 3: You you you owned up what you have to do.

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Speaker 3: Now it's on Live the Hill. But you did what

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Speaker 1: I think, thank you.

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Speaker 6: So what did heartbreak teach you that, like success, never

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Speaker 5: Well, I've been let down in both areas. I think

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Speaker 1: In one of them, I can't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, heartbreak, I can control. That will never happen to

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Speaker 7: How can you control that?

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Speaker 5: Because I just believe that you're not supposed to give

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Speaker 5: to be whole. If I give you all of me,

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Speaker 5: then that means I've lost control of myself.

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. No, I can't show up for you.

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Speaker 5: I can't show up for me.

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Speaker 1: I can't show up with my kid. I can't show

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Speaker 5: I cant show up for my businesses and other people

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Speaker 5: who need me. I can't give all of me. You

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Speaker 5: can't have all of me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I always want to know Tamo with your career. Right,

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Speaker 3: You're amazing vocalist.

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Speaker 1: Thank you friend. You're just a dope person.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Anybody that knows you know you're a dope person. You're

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Speaker 3: You speak to everybody, you hug, everybody, you make amazing music.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you think you're a bigger artist than you

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Speaker 1: I just feel like a line misses, something misses at

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Speaker 1: some point. Do you do you know what that is?

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Speaker 1: Because even with you go to your ex who.

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Speaker 3: Found Lady God God, and You've had the record, you

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Speaker 1: Really, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I think that's awfully kind and true. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: absolutely happen. But I am proud of the success that

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Speaker 1: Is something that I create, create well.

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Speaker 5: But I think that sometimes people put me in a

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Speaker 5: And if that is something that is always talked about

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And I don't really like that because it's not fair

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Speaker 5: she wasn't my sister, it wouldn't be a Tony Braxton

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Speaker 5: that comes up in any conversation and anything that I do.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I understand whatever you're saying, and it is

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Speaker 6: an interesting conversation, but I feel like you found your

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Speaker 6: lane in other ways, I do, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: And your star has risen in you know, just as

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Speaker 1: But she makes dope music.

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Speaker 3: She's a dope artist, but I feel like she doesn't

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Speaker 3: get the looks and likeness of other artists, not even

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Speaker 3: thought to myself, why, I just wonder why that was?

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Speaker 5: You know, that's really kind. Let's meditated on that. Come on,

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Speaker 5: you're a good meditator.

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Speaker 2: I can tell I do. I'm getting better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really hard to kind of when I first start,

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Speaker 5: it was really hard for me to kind of tap in.

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Speaker 2: I can do it probably like up to four to

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Speaker 2: five minutes. Now. Really that's impressive, but it takes a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Once I get there, I can probably do it, but

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Speaker 6: it takes a while for me to get to that space.

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Speaker 6: It's impressive country beats.

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Speaker 5: I don't count be I'm just really started in it

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Speaker 5: to get to that point?

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Speaker 2: Probably probably a year of constantly.

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Speaker 7: Doing really okay seven days a week.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Also you you also down with the ships too.

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Speaker 3: We've seen you at Versus and is why did you

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Speaker 5: Because first of all, that's my friend, my real friend.

450
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: Did y'all make up yet?

451
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

452
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's so funny. He was on

453
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 6: when BT was up here. He but I talked him

454
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 6: on the phone. You and me was up a couple

455
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 6: weeks ago. He was on the phone too.

456
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: It was a little bit.

457
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's my friend. And the truth is I

458
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 5: introduced him to his wife, and so we're really like

459
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 5: locked in and Tony couldn't make it when you met Burman.

460
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: What's what made you say this is the perfect person

461
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: for my sister. That didn't happen like that. He assumed

462
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: her through me.

463
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 5: At first he was like yeah, and I was like,

464
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: she's married, leave my sister alone. And then when she

465
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 5: got a divorce, he was very intentional about her.

466
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 2: Now the internet was saying that you dated I've.

467
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 5: Never dated Brian ever in my life. So I met

468
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 5: him through somebody else, one of my other homegirls that

469
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 5: was dating him. And then when I went out with them,

470
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 5: he found out that I could sing. It was actually

471
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 5: Slim who found out that I could sing, and they

472
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 5: wanted to sign me the cash money.

473
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: And that's the story.

474
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 6: How did you feel when folks were criticizing you about

475
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 6: supporting him as if it was something else other than.

476
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 5: I just think it's another form of tamar cyberbullying, because

477
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: why wouldn't you support your family? That's my brother in law,

478
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 5: that's my family. You know, we spend holidays together, you know,

479
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 5: we have intimate conversations about my family, you know, so like,

480
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 5: why wouldn't I support man? Why would I not brush

481
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 5: them off or wipe them down?

482
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: Because and I'll do it again, thank you.

483
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 8: Like after they had the video of y'all facetiming Tony

484
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 8: Wraxton and just you know how excited all of you

485
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 8: guys were in that moment. But people still turn that

486
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 8: into like a thing to make a meme about it.

487
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: People make things what they wanted to be.

488
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to chase people and try

489
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 5: to beat them over the head and talk them into

490
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 5: liking me or you know, supporting me and the things

491
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 5: that I do.

492
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: It's not a Tamar problem.

493
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 6: Has it gotten worse because it has since since I

494
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 6: want to say since the reality show. But I don't

495
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 6: feel like it would like this when y'all had the

496
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 6: reality I feel like it's gotten it has.

497
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 5: I feel like it has, and I don't have a

498
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 5: definition as to why. I think maybe because you know,

499
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 5: I was really kind of diving in to this the

500
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: other day with my therapist. I think because I don't

501
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 5: address things do, people just keep going and going and

502
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 5: going because they know number one, Tamar's clickbait number one. Right,

503
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: whether I say anything back or not, it's going to

504
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 5: go viral and it's going to be all over the

505
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 5: place for a few days. And if I don't address it,

506
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 5: then people believe it to be the truth. And the

507
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 5: reason why I won't address it is because I have

508
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: to address everything and I just simply don't want to

509
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 5: do that. I don't don't. I don't want to stop

510
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 5: doing what I'm doing and address some can I cuss

511
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 5: some bullshit that I don't care about. You get what

512
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So, yes, it has gotten worse. And I

513
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 5: think that because big artists like Cardi b will hop

514
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 5: ha ass on the internet and read you your rights.

515
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 5: She don't care who you are, where you come from.

516
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 5: And it's going down Bobby Brown, I just don't simply

517
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 5: don't want to.

518
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it. I don't.

519
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to do that.

520
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the headlines descrip for your music?

521
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: No?

522
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it distracts from any success because

523
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 5: I still have it, which I feel like I have more,

524
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: although it's not as loud as it used to be,

525
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 5: but like I have more now. But I do think

526
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: it distracts from my personality and who I really am,

527
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: and that sometimes is troublesome for me.

528
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 7: With talking about headlines.

529
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 8: When everything happened with your accident and you came out

530
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 8: online and told people what happened, and the reaction just

531
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 8: wasn't as supportive as it should have been for someone

532
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 8: who was going through what you know, you went through.

533
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 8: How did you feel on the inside, Like you you're like, hey,

534
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 8: I almost died.

535
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 7: I woke up in a pool blood and what happened.

536
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: First of all, for people that don't know.

537
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: To talk about that.

538
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 5: And let me tell you what it, let me tell

539
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 5: you what.

540
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 7: I've reached out to you, so you know, and I

541
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 7: appreciate that, thank you.

542
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: I think that it was a specific situation that made

543
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 5: it negative. I think that at first that people were

544
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 5: really genuinely concerned. Actually was supposed to be my close friends,

545
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: if I'm being honest. Yeah, it was supposed to be

546
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 5: in my close friends, and I was just so that

547
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 5: it went out on the regular. So I think that

548
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: that situation turned to be negative because it was a

549
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: negative spin on it, and it was really something that

550
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: truly that was traumatic that happened to me. And I'm

551
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: going to decline from speaking to any further because I can't.

552
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: I'm tired.

553
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 8: Well, back to the project I mentioned letter to man earlier. Yeah,

555
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 8: which man is.

556
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: I will not be telling y'all, I can't do that.

557
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 7: Letter to Leo Man is like, okay, So Leo Man.

558
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 5: Is a tough man. That's a tough one. That's a

559
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 5: tough cookie to crack. And so was a Sagittarius and so.

560
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: As.

561
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: I've never dated Arias ban I won't.

562
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 7: It's a great time.

563
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: It's a good time.

564
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 7: They're definitely tough to crack.

565
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 5: They are in a scorpio. It needs to be a

566
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 5: song about the all.

567
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 6: Actually, you ain't name no beautiful cancers because we're so sweet, you.

568
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying?

569
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your sign?

570
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 5: I like a Virgo, but the mother ones we got

571
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: to stay in the prayer list for and fast and terry.

572
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: You know we had.

573
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: We got a producer up here. Her name is Taylor,

574
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 6: and she keeps saying this joke. I don't even know

575
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 6: if it's a joke, but she keeps saying, if you

576
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 6: want something green and slow next time, go.

577
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Buy you a turtle. That was me, I know, but

578
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: I think I know what it means. Don't be green.

579
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: I'm not green and I ain't slow. I don't know

580
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: why she can't get that joke.

581
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: She doesn't get it.

582
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: She keeps saying it over and over like nobody wants.

583
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Something green and slug go by you.

584
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: Turtle, but she's a little green.

585
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Do you guys get what that means? What that means

586
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: that meditation?

587
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: Do you think healed people love differently?

588
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 6: Are they just more honest about their limits?

589
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 5: I think both. I think that when you're healed, you

590
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 5: you're very careful about how you love right and who

591
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 5: you love because there is no way that I'm going

592
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: to get with a person who has a lot of

593
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: healing to do. It's just not going to work.

594
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not going to work.

595
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: And I don't care how much chemistry we have or

596
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 5: what the vibe is.

597
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a good vibe, a good time. It's just never

598
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: ever ever going to work.

599
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: And I think that if I hadn't started my healing journey,

600
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: and it is a journey, and I want to say this,

601
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 5: A lot of people say this about me online. Oh

602
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: she's been on this healing journey, here she go again.

603
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 5: A healing journey is forever.

604
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: Every single day.

605
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 5: It's forever, and you have hiccups along the way. But

606
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: my healing journey will never stop because I know what

607
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: I know and I know.

608
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 6: And you said something. You expressed the sentiment that so

609
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 6: many women I know say. They were like, I don't

610
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 6: even want to deal with nobody. If they're not trying

611
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 6: to do some work on this other, they're not doing

612
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 6: the work on themsel.

613
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 5: Because why where we going to end up? Toxic in

614
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: your forties?

615
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Is not it?

616
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, It's not That's not it.

617
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: We were supposed to be fighting and arguing and I

618
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: ain't doing that. No, I'm laying on the beach and

619
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 5: making some coins.

620
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Good night.

621
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

622
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 8: Is that why you said you're not having fun outside?

623
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 8: It's because you keep running into toxic in over forty.

624
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: I am not running into anything, you know.

625
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying?

626
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Thank you?

627
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: And how's your relationship with your sisters? How y'all doing that?

628
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I look at this, yaw'll be wondering what's real, what's

629
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: not real? What's made up? Behind the scenes? Did y'all speak?

630
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: This season was definitely unfortunately real, but it was necessary.

631
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot to get through and

632
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: talk about and figure out, and that we're still figuring out.

633
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: And I'm just happy that we're on a path to

634
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: not being.

635
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: Stuck in yesterday.

636
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 5: We can move forward from that and have different conversations

637
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: about what happened and why it happened, instead of people

638
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 5: holding on to different things that has been buried along

639
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: the way.

640
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: You feel like your sisters are jealousy you, I know

641
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: one time you believe that.

642
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 5: Listen, when you're in an argument with your family members,

643
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 5: you say, anything happens.

644
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't truly believe that.

645
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: I don't believe that. I really honestly feel like you know,

646
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 5: in everybody's individual way, that we all really have a real.

647
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Strong love for each other. I think that.

648
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: As individuals and as women, I think that some of

649
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: us are still trying to figure out what that looks like.

650
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: And I know I am what it looks like and

651
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: what it is and how we fit into our sisterhood

652
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 5: now today.

653
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: As adults, And how do y'all fight as sisters? Like

654
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: after y'all fight, do y'all say I need five more minutes?

655
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: Or like how does it stop when you get tired?

656
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: Like I think everybody go to their corners and patch

657
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: up and heel up.

658
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: That's what I think, you know, Rest in peace to Tracy.

659
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: Always did that not bring y'all together and that not

660
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: make y'all say, you know what, all the petty we

661
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: haveing a dress, let's just sit down and do it,

662
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 6: because you know, life is short.

663
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: In a sense.

664
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: But in a sense, it kind of made things exasperate, yeah,

665
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: because you know, we never thought that you know, we

666
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: would up. You don't think you're going to lose a sibling, right,

667
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: And but the way that you know she passed, she

668
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: got sick and it happened very rapidly. And so I

669
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: think that there's a lot of anger, but it's a

670
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: lot of healing that needs to happen that bubbles around

671
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: Tracy in that situation. And I think that the Tracy

672
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: situation made everything else so much bigger.

673
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw you. I saw you beating yourself up

674
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 6: about it. You know, I should would could ave it.

675
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, we was a lot of time, But the truth

676
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 5: is I wasn't ready to heal back then, right, And

677
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, you know how much time we wasted

678
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: in the end, we really made up for it, and

679
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm grateful for that. I just wish I had more

680
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: time with that kind of time with Tracy.

681
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: And that's all different for me, and it's different.

682
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I went to grief counseling before

683
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: Tracy passed, and not to say I was prepared for

684
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: but I was more prepared for it and how to

685
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: deal with it.

686
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: So for me.

687
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 5: With cancers, very very tricky, right, because it's I feel

688
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: like it's almost like a sense of sitting around and

689
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 5: waiting for somebody to pass.

690
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: Right.

691
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: You know it's coming, especially at her stage, and so

692
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 5: I just feel like going through grief counseling prepared me

693
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: to deal with it, like I was dealing with it

694
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 5: while she was sick, if that makes sense. So when

695
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: it actually happened, I was more relieved than anything because

696
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: I asked her a specific question one time. I was like,

697
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: how do you feel, like, are you in pain?

698
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: Like?

699
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Because she was.

700
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: Heavily medicated, she was like, this never a moment when

701
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 5: I'm not in pain. Yeah, that was really hard.

702
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 7: What has been your Yeah, but.

703
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: We love Tracy.

704
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: She's with me all the time, so let's bring your

705
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: back up. But she'd be mad if we was upset

706
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 5: about it.

707
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 8: So this project, when you're released from the grief of

708
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 8: your ex, what what do you find is your relief

709
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 8: from other griefs that you go through, like loss of

710
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 8: your sister friendships, whatever the case may be.

711
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: I stay in therapy and I'm on medication. I'm not

712
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: I got off medication two weeks ago just to film

713
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 5: this movie because it was very it's a very emotional film.

714
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: But I can't wait to get back.

715
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on Lexapro. It's the best thing that ever

716
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: happened to me. Everybody needs lex Pro.

717
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you tell the people where the feel like

718
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: you said something that calms you.

719
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: It's just just it's good for my nervous system, you

720
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 5: know what I mean? You know, like when people like

721
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: hear tea on the internet and it buzzes and everybody

722
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: nervous system that's all over the place. It just keeps

723
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: it calm. It's the best without being high, that's the best.

724
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 8: So how are you dealing with things as they come

725
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 8: in these couple like this time that you're shooting your

726
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 8: movie since you're used to having like, you know, like

727
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 8: help with dealing with things that might pop up and

728
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 8: things people saying like are you because.

729
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 7: You're on the internet.

730
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm on the internet.

731
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, but like how do you how are you coping?

732
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 7: How you getting through?

733
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Now?

734
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: You're therapy? Therapy?

735
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: You do what you gotta do for work, right, you

736
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 5: do what you gotta do because you want more things

737
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: and bigger things and bigger opportunities. And I don't look

738
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: at my mental health journey as a handicap, right. It

739
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: doesn't stifle me in any way. I just now know

740
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 5: how to navigate it. And I'm responsible with my mental

741
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: health health. And it's okay, listen, I don't I don't

742
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: have to be on mental health medication.

743
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: It's just helpful. Does that make sense?

744
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

745
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

746
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: And so yeah, and I know that. And because I

747
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: know that, it doesn't make me feel a way because

748
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: I'm not on it. Does that make sense? I hope

749
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: that makes sense. I got you, Okay, I got you.

750
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 7: When you're in therapy, are you talking to your therapist

751
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 7: about everything?

752
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 8: Okay? What's what's like? I mean everything?

753
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: Do you have a culturally competent therapist?

754
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: So they are I have two? Okay?

755
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: And so helpful?

756
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do they call you when they see stuff coming on?

757
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 5: Like let me just call me at three?

758
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's things like that.

759
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 8: Do things trigger you, like I know there was the

760
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 8: you sent the cease and desist because of the funky

761
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 8: Neva stuff.

762
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 7: Do we have to talk about that we don't have

763
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 7: to talk about it.

764
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: You before that different topics. I should get up here

765
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 3: in twelve year round like she does sis. Then you're

766
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: gonna be like, feel a waste.

767
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 8: She knows that this is not any INSPI or anything

768
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 8: like that. It's just a conversation.

769
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to heartbreak.

770
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 6: The heartbreak can feel isolated, right, So what do you

771
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: hope women who are listening to this album alone at

772
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: night feel?

773
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

774
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: The number one thing for my takeaway, the only way

775
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: out is through. You just kind of got to go

776
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 5: through the process and you got to allow yourself to feel.

777
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 5: And just like my major feeling was grief and guilt.

778
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: I had to get over that.

779
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 5: I had to, you know, go through all the steps

780
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 5: to get out of it. And I think that with

781
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: heartbreak retrograde, I just wanted to, you know, be the

782
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: piece for women to know that, you know, you're you're

783
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 5: not a broken person because you cheat on your spouse.

784
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, You're not damaged goods. You

785
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: went through something and you take account nobility and you

786
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 5: go through the motions to heal and and and be

787
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: better and get better.

788
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: I agree with all that, but.

789
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: It's just the way.

790
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, certain things you have to say,

791
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: you don't.

792
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: You can't know.

793
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: You don't need to tell the man that the other

794
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: man shifted you.

795
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him me read it.

796
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know what he should have been going should be.

797
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Why would you tell that other I smacking, I mean

798
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: were racked too.

799
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: So he was lying. He didn't really do it.

800
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: You just I was sacking. I'm telling you I was sacking.

801
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: So you're just helping his ego. Thank you, Okay.

802
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 7: I love that you.

803
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 6: Are just this triggered by she got a bass because

804
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 6: her last X all right around.

805
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 8: Lie, no girl, never because I got stitches to grow

806
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 8: where the stitches were stupid.

807
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: He's changing the story.

808
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 8: Dermatologists for you your hair, Yes, God, you're still gonna

809
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 8: give them to me after my last question.

810
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not upset about it all. You're doing your job,

811
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna say this, she's amazing. You found her, right,

812
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: I found them the kind of.

813
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: Like that.

814
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: People that recommended her.

815
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: But I tell you that all the time.

816
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 8: You know, you're so supportive, and that's why, Like when

817
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 8: so today when I came in, I gave you some

818
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 8: hugs before this, I'm like it's such a dynamic of

819
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 8: like doing your job and like because I keep up

820
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 8: with everything that you do, but also in real life,

821
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 8: whenever thing's happen, I'm.

822
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 7: Like, hey, you good, like I know that.

823
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 8: And a lot of times I don't bring it to

824
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 8: air because when we talk, I know you're going through

825
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 8: things for real, for real and it gets really.

826
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 7: Tough for you.

827
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 6: So I was she found us while being here, she

828
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 6: found herself, and I think when she found herself that's

829
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 6: when she started to flourish.

830
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: And that's what happened.

831
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 5: Isn't that amazing when you find yourself, like the level

832
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 5: of like like you never thought that you could even

833
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 5: think that big, you know what I mean? But finding

834
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 5: yourself is the key to it all. And I'm telling

835
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: you I'm not plugging my record. I'm just telling you

836
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 5: a heartbreak retrograde. I think it's saved my life.

837
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: It just did.

838
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: The visual too, yeah too.

839
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 8: I think when people listen to the music, you should

840
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 8: watch the visual with the music because I think it

841
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 8: really shows something that all women go through, not just

842
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 8: about men and cheating, but just about figuring out who

843
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 8: you want to show up as.

844
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 5: Yeah me, DC's is still upset with me about this,

845
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 5: about this scene. But it's a very important scene that's

846
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 5: in the film. It's the breakup scene when he sits

847
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: me down and he's just like absolutely positively not like

848
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: what you do with them lips?

849
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: You think you're gona kiss me with those lips?

850
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: Like it's it's really important to men because I just

851
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: feel like we never see the other side. And we

852
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: always talk about when a woman's fed up, but we

853
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: never talk about when a man is done done.

854
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: And it's over with and it's nothing you could do

855
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: about that shit the cry.

856
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: It's true, and I didn't know that until that situation

857
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: what that man can really be done, that men can.

858
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: Really be done with. Get hurt too, You hurt your feelings,

859
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: but they would come back.

860
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah damn. Is there a song on the album that

861
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: represents closure for you?

862
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

863
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 5: I think the record loved me. It's just talk talking

864
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 5: about I miss it and I love it, but it's over.

865
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: And that's it.

866
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 5: I just have I had to take that situation as

867
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: a lesson because I really wanted it to work out,

868
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: and when it didn't, I just had to accept that

869
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: that this was your lesson, and I know this is

870
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 5: my lesson. To become the best version of myself for

871
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: the best person that God has for me, which is.

872
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: My partner.

873
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: With somebody else that you have been in love with somebody.

874
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 6: No, this is what you mean, because I'm saying, like,

875
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: could that happen again?

876
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: No, I'm never I will never experience another heartbreak, even

877
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: if if the person passes away, I will not experience heartbreak.

878
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's possible because.

879
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: It's a part of life.

880
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: I'm not arguing with God. You understand what I'm saying.

881
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: I feel it, and I know how to process it.

882
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying, like, I'm not going into

883
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: a deep depression over it. I know how to handle

884
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: my emotions, you know. And I'm just never going to

885
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: experience heartbreak ever again.

886
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Is that not suppressing it?

887
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Though? No, I'm going to feel it.

888
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say I'm not going to be sad,

889
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to be heartbroken.

890
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 8: You're saying you're not gonna liw yourself to get to

891
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 8: that dark deep. I know what you're talking about because

892
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: I think men, y'all deal.

893
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I can be there something. Having one of my kids,

894
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken.

895
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 7: That's different.

896
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Heartbreak. I'm heartbroken.

897
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: Different my wife walks up and tells me she has

898
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: sex with somebody else that had a bigger penis.

899
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken.

900
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, was a.

901
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: Shut up man.

902
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 8: Well, I know what you mean though, of going through

903
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 8: like that deep dark place because of something that you

904
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 8: think was done or was done, and you're like, I'm

905
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 8: never gonna allow myself to get back here.

906
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: It's not possible.

907
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 6: I don't think I mean, everybody grieved diff but I

908
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: just think grief is something we should allow ourselves to feel.

909
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: That heartbreak is something we should allow ourselves.

910
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: Differ, not to that degree that was unhealthy.

911
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 8: Do you feel like that blocks you from having real

912
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 8: love again?

913
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 7: Though?

914
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 8: That what that you are set on, I'm never going

915
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 8: to experience heartbreak. So it's kind of like, I mean,

916
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: I'm talking about myself personally, right, because I decided that

917
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 8: after going through a really bad situation in a good situation,

918
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 8: I found myself almost like waiting for the next shoe

919
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 8: to drop because I wanted to like get out before

920
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 8: I was gonna feel anything that would hurt me, because

921
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 8: I didn't want to go through heartbreak again. And then

922
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 8: it was messing up what was good like it was

923
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 8: creating things that weren't even really happening. Do you experience

924
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 8: like are you able to be vulnerable and really accept that,

925
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 8: like you might not have all good with a person

926
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 8: that is good for you.

927
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but there is a wall, but you're not getting

928
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: past because I'm not going back. And that's that on that,

929
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm not anticipating pain, not

930
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 5: doing it. I'm gonna somebody makes me feel good and

931
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 5: we have in a moment, and you know, the vibe

932
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: is vibe it. I'm gonna sit in it and enjoy

933
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: every second until it's not there anymore, and then I'm

934
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: going to move to the left.

935
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 7: It's's no struggle love. You don't want struggle love.

936
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.

937
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Why, I'm a great one. I'm a great catch. Hello.

938
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying, because, like you said, you

939
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 6: caused the heart break I did. But you're not gonna

940
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 6: beat yourself up over I guess a mistake that you made.

941
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 5: I did beat myself up.

942
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: So what version of Tamo walked into the studio? What

943
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: version walked out? Well?

944
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 5: I came in here a little heavy, because you know,

945
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: stud when you did that, the studio Today was rough

946
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 5: for me because I think that sometimes like it's a lot, right,

947
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 5: and I have anxiety, and I know and I recognize

948
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: that I'm not on my medication right now, so it's

949
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 5: probably heightened.

950
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna get asked.

951
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: I don't want to discuss, you know, and you know,

952
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to make things worse, not only for myself,

953
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 5: but for my loved ones and loved ones being the

954
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: person heart that I broke, or my siblings or I

955
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: know it's tough for my mother to see her daughters

956
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: that way.

957
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: And I also don't.

958
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: Want to give opportunity for anybody to say anything else. Yeah,

959
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: but I'm okay now.

960
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

961
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: Before I came in, I just senter it myself and

962
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm in a safe place. I'm in a

963
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 5: safe place because I'm in control of me, you control

964
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: of what comes out of my mouth. And it doesn't

965
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 5: matter what the headlines say. I know that whatever I say,

966
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stand by, and that's it.

967
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: Shifting the gag gonna come out because I'm not about him.

968
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: But if he start doing it, he's not as a

969
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: uter shifter. Yes, I should have hired.

970
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, we love you, support you, yes,

971
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: will we have your back?

972
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 7: And congrats on Bridezilla too, Thank you, thank you.

973
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 6: I do have one more question, because after heartbreak retrograde,

974
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 6: what does love look like moving forward forward?

975
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Is it softer? Is it guarded? Is it fearless?

976
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: It's all of that. But I'm looking forward to a

977
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: soft love, I really am. I'm looking forward to to

978
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: catering to and catering to me.

979
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 7: It's a great place there, you go what it's a

980
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 7: great place to be.

981
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Do you talk? We open about it? I feelsation. Are

982
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: you opening? Are you public?

983
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: Because I won't be public ever again. Wait, just four

984
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: or five months ago, she had to, she had to

985
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 5: figure out which one it was going to be single

986
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 5: and I was dating.

987
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: That's you should take more than one.

988
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: She's happy, she's glowing now and it's the same thing

989
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: that though I fixed that before.

990
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 7: A terrible he dropped me.

991
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: Spray on hair dyed like paint, spray covers it.

992
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 6: You wait, this is true love, legendary.

993
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 8: Why to answer your question, I will talk about being

994
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 8: in a relationship, but I do want to keep certain

995
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: things to myself.

996
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 5: Because I haven't seen them on your page yet. Do

997
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 5: not show him yet I just don't show him. I

998
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 5: think that's when things get a little while. I mean,

999
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: don't show already posted him.

1000
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 8: But oh wow, But I will say I think certain

1001
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 8: things I want to keep to the chest a little bit,

1002
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 8: just because I just it's a people be having a

1003
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 8: lot to say in a lot going on, and everybody

1004
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 8: not built to deal with all of that.

1005
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: And you don't know if that man got a whole

1006
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: other family.

1007
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 8: Exactly what he got and he don't got. Don't play

1008
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 8: with me, That's what I did.

1009
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: Oh that show boo boo, this is girl. How long

1010
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: has it been? Boom? Can't even see that?

1011
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 6: That bolls spot are like that sometimes?

1012
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: She how long you've been with the man? She said, sometime.

1013
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 7: I've been dating him for a while.

1014
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: It's a while, Lauren.

1015
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: You all in my business, and so you know about

1016
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: the other people you're dating while you was dating.

1017
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 8: Wow, when I met him, the people that I was like,

1018
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 8: kind of have a conversation where we had that conversation. Yeah,

1019
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 8: So how did you feel about that we weren't exclusively together,

1020
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 8: like were he gonna you know what I mean? It

1021
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 8: was I think more so because we were friends before this,

1022
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 8: like he's not like a stranger.

1023
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 7: He wasn't really focused on it.

1024
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 8: I think he pulled up and understood, like, Okay, once

1025
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 8: I'm here, I know all that is going to go

1026
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 8: by the wayside. So let's just focus on each other

1027
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 8: for real in this news space, not as friends.

1028
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: And so how does men feel about that women dating

1029
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: multiple dat?

1030
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 6: I used to call her two nigga oh, because I

1031
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 6: feel like you like, she's young, you know me and

1032
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: she seeing the New York.

1033
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: Now go have some fun.

1034
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 6: But I just thought it was ridiculous when he took

1035
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 6: her on vacation and put will you be my girlfriends?

1036
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: You went out the country with damn sorry you saw it.

1037
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: It was cute, but all the.

1038
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 2: Way out of the country to get after you girl.

1039
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you better because this is what I think.

1040
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 5: I think that you were supposed to date several and

1041
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 5: mad and made the best man who steps up when but.

1042
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: You done left the man sweat on you. So it's like.

1043
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: Saying that happened before they were they were seeing each other,

1044
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: but they were joking that. She said, you never asked me,

1045
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: We just came to It just happened, and that was

1046
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: his joke back, will you be my girl.

1047
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: They were exclusive.

1048
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 8: Still because I feel like even in my joke as

1049
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 8: a person trying to figure out like how to go

1050
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 8: into a relationship, because I was in a relationship young

1051
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 8: and then it ended when I was like thirty thirty one.

1052
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 8: So when I was single, I'm like, this is my

1053
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 8: first time being an adult and being single. I don't

1054
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 8: even know how you get back into a relationship at

1055
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 8: this point. But we've had that conversation, and so that

1056
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: was him being like, Okay, even if you don't know

1057
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 8: and you're joking, I want to make sure you feel

1058
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 8: as secure as you need to everything.

1059
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 7: He's doing what you need to do. And Big Fatty

1060
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 7: over the.

1061
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: Fatty and your man built that's crazy.

1062
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Just ignore him. Big Events used to be Evince.

1063
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 7: I met him and he was a really nice person.

1064
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: But he's not even when you was with him, Teddy Repskins.

1065
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not that, but he is a man. Though

1066
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 7: I was hot.

1067
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no.

1068
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: I was going to say, you know, I enjoyed my

1069
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 5: Teddy Repskin era. I didn't think I wouldn't be able

1070
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 5: to enjoy that.

1071
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: But about it's okay to be.

1072
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: That's what you said.

1073
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 8: Think it's for me. It's not for me now, yeah,

1074
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 8: I can do. He's not built like your ski. He's

1075
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 8: just angry and.

1076
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: He's happy for you.

1077
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: He's just playing.

1078
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 8: I think so too, because when I was and he's

1079
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 8: super happy from inside and being.

1080
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Happy for her. I'm happy. When the man proposed and

1081
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: they walked down, it's kind of.

1082
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 7: Like that's all he did.

1083
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: Make sure you walk down, that's all.

1084
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah you need no, don't say that. It would have

1085
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: been like five months, six months.

1086
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: But I've known for years.

1087
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: You know what the things they got to do, well

1088
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 3: what I advise, live with each other, so you really

1089
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: see the true meaning. You know, these conversations about bills

1090
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: and finances and have that conversation about the future. How

1091
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: many kids you want, how many kids he wants? You

1092
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: need to have those conversations before you just get into it.

1093
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying have those.

1094
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 8: Rushing But I am also like you know, I mean,

1095
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 8: I'm I'm good, got him in a really great place.

1096
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: But when I meet him, it's not going to be long.

1097
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 8: I don't think it will even before you meet him.

1098
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 8: If it was up to him, it wouldn't be long.

1099
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, heartbreak retrograde, which.

1100
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Have them love me everybody. I don't know. I don't know.

1101
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: That's a couple of damn love me. I don't know both.

1102
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well, we appreciate you for joining us holidays and

1103
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: thank you.

1104
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Happy holidays to the family. It's take on Braxton. It's

1105
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club.

1106
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: Finish, y'all done,