1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros Podcast. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Thomas Violin, of course, joining me as always, 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: it is none other than the King of Content, the 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: high Septum of Soaps, the podcast power listener, and long 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: suffering Cowboys fan, the Oracle himself, Matt Friedman and Matt 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Today our special guest to talk about Week one of 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: the NFL. It is finally here. Labor Day weekend is 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: over and that means two things. Number one, you can 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: finally break out those white outfits again, and number two, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: we have NFL football this week and here to talk 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: about it with US Vegas refund of the Action Network. Guys, 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: What is going on? I'm pumped to be here is 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: one Guys. 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Are you excited? NFL football is finally back? 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: You have to If you're not excited, you don't have 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: a pulse, which I think it's like becoming a competition 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: to see who is the most excited at this point. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: But it's only two days away. Keep thinking it's Monday. 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: But I'm the least excited. I'll just take that crown. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: You know, everyone wants to be the most excited. I 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: will be the least excited about this. I like football. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: It's in the preseason. I like watching these four stringers 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 4: who are never going to do anything running around out 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: there and us being degenerateus and betting on that. I 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: like that. This is regular season's fine regular. 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Seasons, fine preseason football, the Matt Friedman Special here. When 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: ones that's over, you're done. You wish we had seven 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: preseason games? 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: Right? 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the more preseason the better. That is a 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: truly awful take. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: But guys, today here we are going to be talking 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: about some of these week one lines. We're going to 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: be talking about our power rankings and where we see 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the season shaping out from week one here. We got 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of great stuff to get to. But first 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: and foremost, I want to ask you, guys, what are 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: the teams that you see yourself higher or lower on 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: than the market? Who do you think you're going to 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: be betting a lot versus fading a lot? This season? 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: V are you first? 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: So it does feel like there's like a general consensus 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: on like who's high on who right now, or like 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: you could say, like a mush where everyone loves the Giants, 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: everyone loves the Ravens, everyone hates the Cowboys, where before 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: the show, I was trying to like not give out 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: like the motion because I totally agree, Like I'm I 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: think the Giants are going to overperform. 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys are gonna totally underperform. 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: But like if I was to pick a few that, 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: like everyone else isn't saying, let's just say the teams 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: that I would be high on would be the Eagles first, 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: which like just purely based off of that division, while 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm also high on the Giants. It's really like the 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: Eagles and the Cowboys have gone in totally opposite directions. 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: Where the Cowboys lost to Mari, they have Gallop coming 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: off in acl where the Eagles added aj Brown, which 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: very well could make DeVante better, and then you have 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: Slay and Bradbury and it's traded for Chauncey Gardner Johnson, 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: where like they have an elite secondary at this point 62 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: drafted Jordan Davis. Like everything that the Eagles have done 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: that has made them better, where from Amari to Gallop 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: to Tyron Smith. Like it's really like I would love 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: Eagles divisional futures if they were better odds, but then 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: you just have to compare whether you're bought into jailing 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: or not, which I am more probably than the market. 68 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: And then the other two, which I don't know if 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: we're just going to go through each like I just 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: did or we're just listing them, would be the Saints. 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: Like I think that is the one that I probably 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: feel the. 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Best about that isn't totally like mushed or you got 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: an elite defense. 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: You have a totally different wide receiver. 76 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: Corp from Michael Thomas Landry Alave, who I absolutely love. 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: And you got Camara with one of the better offensive 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: lines in the top five defense and the NFC is 79 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: just a total joke. 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: Like liking. 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: Like the Saints, I would not like them nearly as 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: much as they're in the NFC. That's totally for sure. 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm in the Giants. Everyone loves the Giants, even though 84 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: they're in the same division as the Eagles. It can't 85 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: like I'm one that I don't like criticizing coaching because 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm not a coach. I haven't been in the league 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: for thirty years, and I don't want to say they 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: should have done this when if I was in that 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: same position, I might have not done it either. And 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: it's very easy to criticize from a keyboard, but it 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: cannot go understand how bad Judge and Garrett were last 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: year and how much of an upgrade the coaching staff 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: is this year. 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Where I'm not comparing the two. 95 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 3: It is a very it's a common theme, but Daniel 96 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: Jones does have similar skill sets to Allan Is in 97 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: basically the exact atmosphere that he was drafted for a 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: better offensive line, and just like the pure coaching upgrade, 99 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: like in the injuries that they had last year, like 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: they have to be better than they were last year. 101 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: It's like impossible, It's hard. 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: It's hard to get worse. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: You're the Giants. 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't know. I've just missed that discourse 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: of people high on the Giants going into this season. 106 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: I get it. 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: The arguments you're making here all makes sense to me, 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: and I think it is just my New York sports 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: bias that I don't think anything good can possibly happen 110 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: in this circumstance and with this team. But Matt, what 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: do you think are you just as low on the 112 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys and does that translate to being high on the Giants? 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I know we love the Eagles a lot. I can't 114 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: fault anything that they've done. 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm slightly above the market than on the Giants, 116 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: And so if I'm extrapolating that out to the look 117 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: aheadlines released for each week, I would say that I 118 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: bet on them a couple of times. I don't bet 119 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: against them any of the time. So I guess you 120 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: could say, like, I'm a little bit higher on them 121 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: than the market, but like, I'm not all that high 122 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: on them in comparison to some of the other teams. 123 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: So teams that I'm really high on, I'm gonna be 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: talking here, Kansas City. I'm a donkey, but I can't 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: help it. I come by it naturally. Like this is 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: very simple to me. I still think Patrick Mahomes is 127 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: the best quarterback in the league. The offense last year 128 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: was still number one in success right on the offense, 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 4: and Andy Reid, I think is still one of the 130 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: most inventive play callers. They've had the entire offseason to 131 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: think about how to rebuild in the aggregate after losing 132 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill. So I think this is still a good 133 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: team that should be one of the front runners for 134 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Going further down the board, I like 135 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: the Steelers. I'm higher on them than the market. Trubisky 136 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: was bad, but not awful with the Bears. He was 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: just bad, and I would say, like roughly in line 138 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: with the bad that the Steelers have had at the 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: quarterback position for the past two years, and head coach 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin he's always been able to fill the competitive 141 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: team and our consensus Fantasy Pros unit power rankings. We 142 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: have their wide receivers and tight ends as the number 143 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: twelve unit, and I think that might be low if 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: George Pickens actually pans out, and then I think they have, 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: if not the number one, a top three defensive line 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: with TJ. Watt and Cameron Hayward and then Detroit. This 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: is chockey like people. They want to restore the roar, 148 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: but I'm leaning this direction. They're a feisty team. Last 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: year they were eleven and six against the spread as underdogs. 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: Their offense will probably be better this year with more continuity. 151 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: We have them ranked as our number three offensive line. 152 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: There's no real weak link in that offensive line, and 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: then their defense, I would imagine can't be any worse 154 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: than it was last year. There just has to be 155 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: some sort of progression from where they were last year 156 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: as the absolute worst unit, if not the worst une 157 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: at bottom three unit in the league. So those are 158 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: three teams that I'm relatively high on. 159 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: You practically stole my entire list here between the two 160 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: of you. We covered Philly and then Kansas City is 161 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: the only team we're going into the season. I was 162 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: completely one of those people. I was saying, Nah, they're 163 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: going to take a step back. No, Tyreek Ale, that 164 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: offense is going to have problems. I saw two snaps 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: of prease, and I saw like one series of them 166 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: in preseason. I was like, oh, nope, Patrick Mahomes is 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: still Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid is still Andy Reid. This 168 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: team is going to be just fine. And then, like 169 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I said on the last episode, I've got Mike Tomlin 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: a Coach of the Year at thirty three to one. 171 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: I hope that the Steelers can make the playoffs for 172 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: that reason because I think it gives me a good 173 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: shot there. But I think that they've kind of upgraded 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,119 Speaker 1: by swapping out Ben Roethlisberger for Mitch Trubisky. I'm completely 175 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: with you there on that. And the Saints. I wanted 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: to get this in all aboard. I think that they 177 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: can easily win that division if the Bucks take a 178 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: step back. I'm excited to see what Jameis Winston does 179 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: with these receivers. Fourteen touchdowns, three interceptions with Marquez Callaway 180 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: as his lead receiver last year before he got hurt. 181 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: He can be We've seen him play at a high 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: level in this league. As long as he can get 183 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: the turnovers under control, which I have full reason I 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: believe he can. This is going to be a good 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: team even without Sean Payton there. But what about some 186 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: of the teams that you guys are a little low 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: on here, We'll go back around on the board, Matt, 188 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: where you're gone? 189 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: All right? Well, Carolina, I think they are middling at 190 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: best everywhere except for running back Christian McCaffrey, And I 191 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: mean running backs don't really matter, So I'm low on them. 192 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 4: They are a bet against team not once, at least 193 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: based on the rate, the power ratings I have now 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: and the lines in the market and the projections that 195 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: i've been Not once is this a team that I'm 196 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: betting on the Tennessee Titans. It feels like this is 197 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: a really obvious, like everyone calling for the regression they 198 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: have I think the worst ranked wide receiver and tight 199 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: end unit in the league. Their offensive line used to 200 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: be a strength, now it's a weakness, and they have 201 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: a run heavy approach with an aging running back. Again, 202 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: this is a team that based on what I have 203 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: right now, I am not once betting on them, I 204 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: am betting against them several times. And then the Washington Commanders. 205 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: Carson Wentz is their quarterback and Ron Rivera is their 206 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: head coach. That's basically it. They have a decent offensive line, 207 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 4: decent running backs, decent wide receivers and tight ends. The 208 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: offense is dragged down by wins. They have a good 209 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: defensive line, but pretty bad linebackers in a week secondary 210 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: and so they have some things at positions that matter, 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: but at the positions that matter the most and with 212 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: the decision maker, I think this is a pretty negative team. 213 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: So again, this is someone that I am betting on 214 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: or betting against quite heavily during the season. 215 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: Running backs really don't matter when they're not going to 216 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: play after weekend too. That doesn't really help you. VR. 217 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: What are you thinking? Who are the teams that you're 218 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: fading this season? 219 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: So, like Titans was on my list for all of 220 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: the same reasons kind of already went into what the 221 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: Cowboys situation was as well. And this one kills me. 222 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: But the Pats just they're not being a Patriots fan. 223 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: The guy almost just liked hn't do it. But the Patriots, 224 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: I just can't. 225 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Where this is the same 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: team but worse that lost the Bills about like. 227 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: Fifty points, like they did not like the biggest upgrade 228 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: was DeVante Parker, like I think that, like, and they lost. 229 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: Multiple pieces on the old line. 230 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: I haven't heard one positive thing from training camp, like zero, 231 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: where it's been. 232 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: A temple of doom. Like every news piece coming out 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: is about how the offense is completely out of sync. 234 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: The no coordinator thing is just not working. 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: It's just it's I haven't heard anything positive, Like they 236 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: lost multiple key pieces. I just I just don't see 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: it like at all, where like then it kills me 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: to say it, like it really really kills me. But 239 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: like they just didn't improve anywhere. And it's the same 240 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: team that lost by like one hundred points to the Bills. 241 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: It's the worst overall. 242 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: And like the draft, like what was it like Cole 243 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: whatever in the first like like from East. 244 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: It's like you can say, this is great, this is fantastic. Yeah, 245 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: it's it's almost as if it's been a horrible twenty 246 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: years leading up to this point. 247 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: Now. 248 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I will not I will not complain 249 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: once purely based off of just having everything. Oh yeah, hate, 250 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm not laughing. 251 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: You hate to see it happen to this team, To 252 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: see them coming back down to earth like this after 253 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty years up at the It's just such a horrible 254 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: thing to see, I say, as a Jets. 255 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: Fan, like, like, honestly, them to finish last in the division, 256 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: I don't think is like the worst that ever. 257 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: I think the only problem there is the Jets are 258 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: really good at doing that. They're not going to getting 259 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: the first pick, but they're good at finishing fourth in 260 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: the division. 261 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: All right, Well, hey, I have a I have a 262 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: question on on the Patriots because for a while they've 263 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: been a team that like is a little bit harder 264 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: for me to get my mind around. I think they 265 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: have some some good pieces in there, and like they 266 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: have this I don't know, like this culture. It sounds 267 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: like such a stupid like this culture of excellence or whatever. 268 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: They played well last year like I have em power 269 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: rated as like an average team or slightly above average. 270 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: Where do you think they fit in? Like would you 271 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: have them power rated as a below average team? 272 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: I would have empowered like exactly average, where like their 273 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: win total like eight and a half, Like it's hard 274 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: for me to get there. And if I just like 275 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: got check in and go through their schedule and be like, 276 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: this is like the automatic wins that we can just 277 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: put in the box, I get it, Like it's like 278 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: six or seven I'm counting. And then there's a bunch 279 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: of like toss ups where just the perception of the 280 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: Patriots and the perception of Belichick I feel like totally 281 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: just inflates them. 282 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: It will always inflate them as long as he's there, I. 283 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Mean even now, so it's fair. But yeah, I'm sitting 284 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: here going, oh man, they look terrible. They look so disjointed. 285 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: Belichick's sell now pulling the strings here and he's purposely 286 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: tanking the preseason. The litl everyone into a false sense 287 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: of security about the regular season. They're gonna come out 288 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: and Mac Jones is gonna look incredible and they're gonna 289 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: win a bunch of games. I'm so afraid of it happening. 290 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: When George Pickens's name comes up the Patriots, who like 291 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: Belichick's wide receiver privileges. 292 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: That need to be like a revote immediate. 293 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's not like a hot take, but 294 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: Pickens is on the board and they went Taekwan Thornton 295 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: and then Pickens goes the very next pick, Taekwan Thornton's 296 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: out for the season with the broken cordlin already, Like 297 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: it's just like the curse it. 298 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Is everybody talks about like he he goes in and 299 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: I feel like when it comes to drafting, he gets 300 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: too smart for his own good and he starts picking 301 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: these players who are like third round rated for other 302 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: teams that are out of some small school nobody's heard of, 303 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: and everybody always universally goes, I'll hang on a second, 304 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Belichick's found a diamond and a rough here. But then 305 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: you go back and you look at the draft record, 306 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: it's not great. 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: And Belichick we trust is the uh I do Jabio preppers. 308 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: I do that addition, like, I'm very interested to see 309 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: what Belichick does with him. But other than that, like 310 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: Devonte Parker sick and then I just lost that one. 311 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: So guys. 312 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Now, guys, it's it's just about time for the season 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: to start, which means that we have a small window 314 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: here to get in our last preseason bets. Is there 315 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: any futures position that you guys are looking at here 316 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: where you're saying this is something people should want to 317 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: grab real quick before the season starts, b R anything 318 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: for you? 319 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: Uh So, in terms of like awards, which I do 320 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: have one, I'd be interesting to hear both of your 321 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: takes on like Offensive Player of the Year Jefferson is 322 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: just automatic, Like I think he's like fifteen to one, 323 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: Like that's a very easy bet for me, where I'm 324 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: seeing a lot of McCaffrey. 325 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Like Comeback Player of the Year, where coming from the. 326 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: Perspective of like if he stays healthy, he's gonna win 327 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year, and from a fantasy perspective, 328 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: if he stays healthy, like you're probably. 329 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: Gonna win your league. 330 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way, where like if he 331 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: plays an entire season with the statistics he can put up, 332 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: like why wouldn't Offensive Player of the Year be in 333 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: the equation over comeback or who knows both, which is 334 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: he's like twenty five to one to win Offensive Player 335 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: of the Year, which he's like, I think eight to 336 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: one to be comeback Player of the year. 337 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Matt, I'll give you the floor here. 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a really good that's a really 339 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: good point. I think he can win comeback Player of 340 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: the Year even if he misses like a game or two. 341 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: If he misses a game or two, I don't think 342 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: he wins Offensive Player of the Year. Like I think 343 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: for that you have to stay totally healthy, totally fair. 344 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: I think my problem with it is all of those ifs. 345 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: If he stays healthy, if he can play every game, 346 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: and if the Panthers have some semblance of a functional offense. 347 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I like Baker Mayfield. But there's a lot of ifs 348 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: here that start to worry me. And I know that 349 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: a guy like Justin Jefferson is going to produce, and 350 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I feel like that Offensive Player of the Year is 351 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: now positioned. It's an award that they're giving to the 352 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: not quarterbacks, because they're giving the quarterbacks MVP, right, So 353 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: I see where you're going with it. I lean more 354 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: with Matt about the Offensive Player of the Year. One. 355 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: Oh, we're we're talking like twenty five to thirty to 356 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: one odds, like yeah, yeah, it's like really just the conversation. 357 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: And the last one I had for like the fun 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: ones would be Higgins' most receiving touchdowns eighteen to one 359 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 3: or like twenty to one on DraftKings, where like I 360 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: was looking at it before the show, which. 361 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: Already I played it a while ago, but he. 362 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: Played three less games than Chase, what had one more 363 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: red zone target than Chase on the entire season with 364 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: fifteen who chases nine to one for most touchdowns and 365 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: Higgins is eighteen to one or twenty to one, which 366 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 3: if you've been paying attention to fantasy, he's like one 367 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: of the quote unquote sharp guys that everyone loves, which 368 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: I love him as. 369 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Well, And that's another fun one I like a lot 370 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: and gohad. 371 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's pretty reasonable. I mean I've been 372 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: That's what we've been hearing from fantasy experts. I know 373 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: that some of the guys on the Fantasy Pros podcast 374 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: have pointed out the same thing about the split in 375 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: their stats and how hey wait a second, t Higgins 376 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: might actually be the red zone target over Jamar Chase 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in this offense, which we know is going to be 378 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: hot but Matt, what do you think? 379 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that Cole. I am interested in any 380 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: thoughts that VR might have on Jamar Chase to be 381 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year because I did bet him 382 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: at thirty to one, and the thinking that is, he 383 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: was so awesome as a rookie, he might take a 384 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: second step forward as a sophomore in the league, and 385 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: the like the odds for like leading the league and receiving. 386 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: You have some pretty obvious names at the top, and 387 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: he's near the top as well, but he's pretty far 388 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: off at thirty to one relative to the other wide receivers. 389 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: So you know, JJ you mentioned him, I think he's 390 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: fifteen to one, but you know, far longer odds thirty 391 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 4: to one for Jamar Chase. When I would say, like 392 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: for them to lead the league in receiving yards, they're 393 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: pretty comparable, Like they have really similar odds. So I 394 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: feel like there's a little bit of an opportunity to 395 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: arbitrage the market here. And maybe the idea is that 396 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase he's not going to get the touchdowns, but 397 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: I think if he's getting the yards, the touchdowns are 398 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: probably coming along with it. So he's he's someone I'm 399 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: thinking about Patrick Mahomes, also thinking about nine to one 400 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 4: to win MVP at DraftKings. You know I mentioned earlier. 401 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: Just I'm really still on the Chiefs this year, and 402 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: I think they have a tough strength of schedule, but 403 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: if they outperform, that gives them, i think, like an 404 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: edge in terms of like the narrative, especially the narrative 405 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: of like, oh, they overcame the loss of Tyreek kill 406 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: and rebuilt their offense, and so I think that could 407 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: help with the voter fatigue or familiarity that could otherwise 408 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: impact people's desire to vote for Mahomes. And then like 409 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: the wet blanket want on this Raiders under eight and 410 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: a half a plus one fifteen at points, But I 411 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 4: just I can't help myself. I look at them. They 412 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: still look like like the worst team in that division 413 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 4: and just kind of like counting through your schedule adding 414 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: it up, like I just don't see it. And if 415 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm wrong, whatever, I'm willing to bet against this team 416 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: got on them. 417 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: Well, Like do you see anyone winning MVP other than 418 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: like Herbert Allen. 419 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: Mahomes, Like. 420 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: I mean I might be it's like so chocking, but 421 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: like I feel like you just bet like Alan her 422 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: Emma Homes. It's like a free five units or whatever 423 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: it is. Where like who could win other than those three? Yeah, 424 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, like anyone can win. 425 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna say James Winston. 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The vikings to this year. 461 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's not like you have to worry about 462 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: voter fatigue because these are the people that gave Aaron 463 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Rodgers the award two years in a row, especially in 464 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: a second year where it was questionable whether he actually 465 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: deserved it. 466 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: I bet Russell Wilson at twin MVP, I think every 467 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: single year. And this is like in the first time 468 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: I don't have Russell Wilson ticket right now. Oh, he's 469 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: really like he's probably gonna wine like literally every year. 470 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: I've just taken him like twenty five to one. 471 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: That that reminds me of a time I saw this 472 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: guy bet at a roulette table for an hour, bet 473 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: like a grand on one number like Red seventeen or whatever, 474 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: Black seventeen or whatever it was, for an hour, just 475 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: plunking it, plunking it with his last five K. After 476 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: an hour, he puts it on four instead the seventeen hit. 477 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be. That's what it's going 478 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: to be. 479 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: It's one now, all right. 480 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I want to get both both ends of the spectrum here. 481 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: We have to do a preseason Super Bowl prediction. You 482 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: can take odds into account, you can take who you 483 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: want to bet versus also who you think is just 484 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna win it, because sometimes there's just no value on that. 485 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: And also I want to know who was drafting first 486 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: next April, Matt, you go first. 487 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go with you know, an AFC and an 488 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 4: NFC team. AFC Ravens twenty to one, bet MGM, Packers 489 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: twelve to one at Caesars. I think, you know, Packers 490 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: with Aaron Rodgers, there's you know, obviously not great continuity 491 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: at wide receiver, but I think that's the kind of 492 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: thing that gets sorted out. David Baktiari looks like he's 493 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: coming back for Week one, so they still have a 494 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: very good offensive line. They're going to be able to 495 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: run the ball, control the ball, and then they have 496 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 4: I think a very good defense. And then the Ravens 497 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: a similar type of thing. You know, a lot of 498 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: players coming back from injury. I think Lamar Jackson is 499 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: going to be his normal self this year, and they 500 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: they return, if not like to twenty nineteen MVP, form 501 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: something that is much better than what they had last year. 502 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: And then the team that I think is the absolute worst, 503 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: I'm I mean, there are several here. It's either the 504 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: Falcons or the Seattle Seahawks. I think the Seahawks are 505 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: hot garbage and like I could see, I don't know 506 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 4: They're probably not gonna fire Carol in the middle of 507 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: the season, but like I could see them being undeniably 508 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: bad and it being such a painful season for Seahawks fans. 509 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna say Seahawks. 510 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: I mean, they're literally the only the Seahwks are the 511 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: only team that don't have like a QB that isn't 512 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: young or hasn't had success at some point, which is 513 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: Gino Smith. Like, I feel like every other team, whether 514 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: like Carsten Wentz has played well in the past, Davis 515 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: Mills like has potential, where the Seahawks are really only 516 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: team in the late that don't have a QB at all. 517 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: I think they're just totally tanking. 518 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: For Yeah, they're either going to go c J. Stroud 519 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: or Bryce Young at the end of the season. And 520 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: we're in complete agreement here. If I'm betting on the 521 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: worst team in the league plus seven fifty right now 522 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: at BETMGM, if I'm betting on worst team in the league, 523 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: I'm taking the team with the worst quarterback situation, and 524 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: that is by far and away Seattle. 525 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 526 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. 527 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: Like I'm more confident and like the Seahawks having the 528 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: worst record in the NFL bet than I am any 529 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: super Bowl. 530 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: Bet, But are there any super Bowl bets that you 531 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of like? VR? 532 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 3: Honestly, this is like the first year going into it 533 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: that like I just don't have a strong like super 534 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: Bowl stance for I've always like playing in my flag 535 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 3: on like one or two teams, like not like publicly 536 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: or anythink, but it's like I want the Chargers because 537 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: if you just look at the Charges Rockster on paper, 538 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: it's like a Madden team. It like really is where 539 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: And I think the people that like use the historical 540 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: like Chargers always soccer, they always blow at injuries whatever, 541 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: Like this is a totally different team. Anthony lenn is 542 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: not there anymore, which is a big deal. 543 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: They did still blow it last year though I know. 544 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: They did blow it. 545 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: And again I love it you Eagles like I love 546 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles too. Where I wanted to say, like Charges 547 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: versus Eagles, the role would be my prediction, but that 548 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: feels like I'm like huge long shot. But if I'm 549 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: just taking the chalk like honestly, Chargers, Bucks, I would 550 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: probably say. 551 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: I think you the most confidence about. 552 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: And if I'm making a Buck super Bowl bet, I 553 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: would wait until after Week four. 554 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: They start this season. 555 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, at Cowboys, at Saints, Packers, Chiefs, they go to 556 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: and two, Like, you're gonna get way better Super Bowl odds. 557 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: Than you are currently. 558 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm keen Bills. I want to see the Bills 559 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: win it. But it's also there's way too much pressure 560 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: on this team. Now the target's on their back and 561 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: everybody's picking them. Yeah, good things can't happen to Buffalo. 562 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: It's not happening. 563 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: Like if it's Bills weren't favored, like I would probably 564 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: be in on them. Yeah, they were like the third 565 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: favorite team in terms of SUPERWL odds, Like I'd be 566 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: a lot more comfortable like they are. I think they're 567 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: like on draftings are like plus six and then the 568 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: Bucks are like plus seven to fifty on the Packers 569 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: or well those are plus five fifty. 570 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. 571 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: It's so top heavy, which is really kind of surprising 572 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: given how many teams I feel like have a legitimate 573 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: shot this year at taking down the Lombardy. The only 574 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: thing that I'm sure of if I could make a 575 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: bet on Bill's heartbreaking season ending loss in the playoffs, 576 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: I would hammer that for all the money in the world, 577 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: because you know it's what's going to happen to that team. 578 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: But what are some of the things that you guys 579 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: think are going to be surprised as this season? What 580 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: are some of the things that people are talking about 581 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: or maybe just not talking about that are going to 582 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: catch a lot of people off guard once the season starts. 583 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: Matt, Yeah, I mean VR touched on this, but I 584 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: think it will surprise maybe not people who are hardcore 585 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: sports betters, but like general sports fans, how bad the 586 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: Cowboys are this year. Mark Cooper's gone, Michael Gallup doesn't 587 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: look like he's going to start this season. James Washington 588 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: is also out. Left tackle, Tyron Smith is out. Left guard, 589 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: Connor Williams is gone right tackle, to El Collins is gone. 590 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: Right tackle. Terrence Still is a swing tackle who's now 591 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: forced to start. They're going within either old Jason Peters 592 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: or rookie Tyler Smith as the left tackle. Connor McGovern 593 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: is a swing interior aligneman who is now being forced 594 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: to start a left guard like. There's been a tremendous 595 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: amount of turnover on the offensive line, which used to 596 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: be a strength, and the defense is just destined to regress, 597 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: like they cannot run as hot as they did last 598 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: year with the turnovers, So that to me, as the 599 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: long suffering Cowboys fan, just feels like the thing that 600 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: is most obvious about this season that will surprise people, 601 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: like how how bad like really bad the Cowboys will 602 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: look at certain points this year? 603 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's crazy. 604 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Are you saying that the Trayvon Diggs strategy of being 605 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: so bad at corner that he just gets thrown to 606 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: enough to pick off a bunch of passes might come 607 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: back to haun hum this year? 608 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? It actually might. Maybe he gets a little bit 609 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: better this year, But I'm kind of skeptical about that. 610 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: He feels like very Marcus Peters esque, where like he's 611 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: just going for the interception every time, and if he 612 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: doesn't get it, he's allowing like a sixty yard touchdown. 613 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Yep, it's boom or bust for him. It's the definition 614 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: of that. It's fun to watch, I'll give you that, 615 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: But I had enough of the delusional Cowboys fans last 616 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 1: year talking about how he was up there with some 617 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: of the greats already, Like no, not the case, v are. 618 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: How about you? What do you think is going to 619 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: be the biggest surprise of the season in your eyes. 620 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: So I think the Browns are going to be better 621 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: than I think everyone gives them credit for currently. Where 622 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: Brissette really has been in a situation like this before, 623 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: where he's really kind of just been like the coladal 624 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: damage what for every team that's needed a quarterback, and 625 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: he started in awful situations where this is definitely the 626 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: first team that he has an elite offensive line, the 627 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: offense is definitely an offense that. 628 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: Works for him. 629 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: Or if he can get to week eleven, and this 630 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: is just assuming Deshaun Watson is like Deshaun Watson when 631 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: he comes back, Like the schedule starts out very easy, 632 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: where they very well could start like five and one, 633 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: six and all and everyone's like crowning them. And if 634 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: he just gets to week eleven or a week twelve, 635 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: like with a winning record, let's say, which I think 636 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: he's capable of because it's on paper, the Browns have 637 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: like a top five roster in the league, like easily, 638 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: and I just I don't want to say they're going 639 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, but I think they're going to 640 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: be a lot better and they have the chance to 641 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: make the playoffs and maybe even a division. 642 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: Who knows, But I just think the Bronson than everyone thinks. 643 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a little bold. I like, 644 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: I like where you're coming from with it. I agree 645 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: about Jacoby Brissette. My biggest fear for him is how 646 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: good are the wide receivers. I get that you have 647 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper now, but behind him it starts to get 648 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: a little dicey. That's like the only thing that I 649 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: can pick out. 650 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: But you got a Joku And I just handed to Chobb, who, 651 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: in my opinion, if I was like for football, like 652 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: if I'm drafting a running back for my team, it's 653 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: like Shobb and Dalbin. 654 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that. 655 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: Who knows, like Hunt can be that there is stacked 656 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: and like that offensive line is top three. 657 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: Matt, I want to tell you about something really new 658 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: and cool coming up in the world of sports betting. 659 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Betting exchanges. 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Better odds and bigger wins are available 670 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: now in my home state of New Jersey. You must 671 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: be twenty one years or older and present in NJ 672 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: to bet. Terms and conditions apply for deposit match. Gambling 673 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: problem called one eight hundred gambler. 674 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is a segue 675 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: into Week one. I'm betting on the Browns at plus 676 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 4: two and a half, Like this is this is one 677 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: of those spots I totally agree with R here. I 678 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: think the brown should be favored by a half point 679 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: in this game. You know, I mentioned earlier I'm low 680 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: on the Panthers. I'm not like super high on the Browns, 681 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 4: but high enough to where this is like, yeah, like 682 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: I feel like you gotta be betting on them. It's 683 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: it's a bad situation for the Panthers. They're playing four 684 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 4: or five at home to open the season, but those 685 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: four games are against the Browns, the Saints, the Cardinals, 686 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: and the forty nine ers and then after that they 687 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: play three or four away what's their their toughest stretch 688 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: of the season. So like, no, like Week one game 689 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: is like a must win game, but man like, if 690 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: they don't win this game when they're actually favored, like 691 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: that is a pretty bad sign for how things are 692 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: going to go for the rest of the season. And 693 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: that means like they could enter the Week ten by 694 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 4: with an OH to nine record, Like that's that's actually 695 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 4: that's actually possible. And looking at this game like the 696 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: Browns didn't make the postseason last year, Week one road 697 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 4: underdogs who didn't make the postseason last year. Uh So, 698 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: to put some context around this trend, like think about 699 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: the things that the market would tend to overreact to 700 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 4: or might like undervalue, Like teams that didn't make the postseason, like, yeah, 701 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: in Week one, they would probably be too low in 702 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: the market. Teams that are on the road, they would 703 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 4: probably be too low in the market. And teams that 704 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: are underdogs, they're probably too low in the market. So 705 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: you put all of those things together, those teams that 706 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: hit that are seventy three, forty six and four against 707 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: the spread, like you know, they do really well, and 708 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: like all of all of that makes sense. And then 709 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: you look at Matt Ruhle three and eight against the 710 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: spread as a favorite, four and twelve against the spread 711 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 4: at home as a home favorite, one in six against 712 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: the spread, and one in six on the money line, 713 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 4: Like this is a guy who just cannot win in 714 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: the situations where he should be getting a win. So 715 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: you put all of that together. I mean, I've got 716 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: more than I could say about this. You can. I 717 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: wrote a matchup piece about this that you can see 718 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 4: at Betting Pros. 719 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: You know. 720 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: They're matchups that I think really align with why the 721 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: Browns win this game. But yeah, I'm betting on the 722 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: Browns hardcore in this spot. 723 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: And I haven't read your piece, but I'm it's like 724 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: the secondary just matches out like Gunzo, Like they just 725 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: match up. So well, yeah, I'm with you on that 726 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: be hindred percent. 727 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: Fading the Baker Mayfield revenge factor. 728 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and I love Baker, but he's yeah, I. 729 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: Mean, I'm teen Baker too. I think that he got 730 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: a bad rap last year for playing hurt and we 731 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: saw this guy take the brown So to their first 732 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: playoff win and since I'm pretty sure since I was alive, Like, 733 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: i think that we're not giving him enough credit, and 734 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited. It's the same thing I said 735 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald last year, though, I'm excited to see 736 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: what he can do in an actual offense. Again, actual 737 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: offense is being compared to what the Jets were with 738 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: the Browns. Like, I'm excited to see what Baker does 739 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: with a change of seniory and when he's fully healthy here, 740 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe they surprise people, maybe they're terrible. The range of 741 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: out comes as high for this team. One game that 742 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm really liking though, I'm taking the Bears as home dogs. 743 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: A lot of home dogs on this slate to open 744 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: up the open up the schedule, but the Bears are 745 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: getting a touchdown at Soldier Field against a forty nine 746 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: Ers team that might take for the season seven wins 747 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: ceiling for this team. I think the defense is going 748 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: to carry them and I think the offense is going 749 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: to be absolutely putrid thanks to the quarterback situation there. 750 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with this. I think that the 751 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: Bears can cover seven points in Week one and that 752 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: people are going to be surprised here because everybody loves 753 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and I don't see it. 754 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm with you on betting on the Bears 755 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: this week. I'm against you on thinking that the Trey 756 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: Lance situation is totally putrid in San Francisco, although it 757 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 4: might turn out pretty bad, Like there's the that's in 758 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 4: the range of outcomes for sure, but I'm not as 759 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: sold on that as you are. VR anything for Week 760 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 4: one stand out to you. 761 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 3: So right now looking at it, the Vikings like plus 762 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: two and Jags three and a half of the two 763 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: that I have on my radar, where like the Jags, 764 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: I think I'm definitely high on the market than everyone else. 765 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is just I just think he like if 766 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm picking your quarterbacks, like Trevor Lawrence is probably the 767 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: first guy still to may out of that class where 768 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: I'm just not a believer in Washington. It's like that 769 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 3: simple where I just think they're bad. And the Jags 770 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 3: situation last year, like it cannot go understated. 771 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: How poorly, Like the whole Urban. 772 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: Meyer fiasco like was just a ripple effect. And I 773 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: believe first year head coaches are awful against the thread. 774 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: But is Patterson really like a first year head coach, 775 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: so like, yeah. 776 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: I feel like like I just. 777 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: I just I'm definitely hiring the Jags and pluster and 778 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: a half, which I think it's gotten hit recently. 779 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 2: Where I think it might go through three. I do like. 780 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: It at two and a half right now. 781 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you VR on this one. 782 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: Like I I haven't bet it, but if I were 783 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 4: to bet it, this would be the side that I'm on. 784 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: And uh, Doug Peterson in the hashtag revenge game against 785 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: Carts and wins, going to love to watch that. 786 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: A lot of revenge games. 787 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: Week one. 788 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 3: The it's like, oh, the Browns like Bakers, like I 789 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: would say probably the. 790 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: Number one revenge can Yeah. Yeah. 791 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: But Vikings is the other one for me where I'm 792 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 3: hid the Vikings, Like I love like the offense that's 793 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 3: coming in to play with them with a new coaching staff, 794 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 3: like I would say Cousins. It's probably my most underrated 795 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: quarterback in the league. Maybe I'm just a homer, but 796 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 3: that offense is just like I have a soft spot 797 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: and I know the old line is going to be 798 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: an issue, but it's been an issue for a couple 799 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: of years now where I feel like they can. It's 800 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: not like anything new where the secondary is a problem. 801 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like I just have no rate. 802 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a last Wizard believer like Dobbs. I don't 803 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: believe in where I just don't like. The biggest issue 804 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: with the Vikings to me is their secondary. And like 805 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 3: I and I know that Aaron Rodgers it really doesn't matter, 806 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: but Davonte not being there is a big do. 807 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, teams, teams that lose the best receiver in football 808 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: regrets offensively, and they still haven't done enough to bring 809 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: in better guys to replenish that receiving core. And I 810 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: think that the Packers are gonna have a hard time 811 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: with that, even though they're gonna want to run with 812 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and aj Dillon Moore this season. But guys, 813 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: if there aren't any more games on the specifics late here, 814 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: let's move over to Thursday Night Football, the opener of 815 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: the season. All it's going to be exciting. We got 816 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Rams two and a half point 817 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: dogs in their own stadium to the Buffalo Bills. Here, Matt, 818 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: I can't can you really lay two and a half 819 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: with Buffalo here. 820 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 4: No, and I believe that VR hasn't made a bet 821 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 4: on this, so I have some ideas on this game, 822 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 4: like to you know, get some feedback from him on this. 823 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm pretty solidly on the Rams at plus two and 824 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 4: a half here. This is for me, the game that 825 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 4: shows the biggest edge of the week, and I think 826 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 4: part of it is Trudevious White, cornerback, number one cornerback 827 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: for the Bills, being out on the pup with the 828 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: knee the ac altair that he suffered last year. White 829 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 4: is I think at a top five cornerback, like maybe 830 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 4: top three. He rarely plays in the slot, but he 831 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: can shadow guys and he's a real shut down perimeter receiver. 832 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 4: So for context, like to compare him to to Jalen Ramsey, 833 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: you know who's also playing in this game. They have 834 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 4: similar reception rates allowed, similar yards per coverage, snap rates allowed, 835 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: yards per target allowed. Both of them have an identical 836 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 4: seven point one four for their career. Like, I'm not 837 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 4: saying that White is as good as Ramsey, like no 838 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 4: one is, but he's like he's pretty close, and he 839 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: like he enables the Bills defense to function differently when 840 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 4: he is on the field, and his absence is going 841 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 4: to be felt. And this is a tough spot I 842 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 4: think for the Bills, a really nice spot for the Rams. 843 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: Like for the Rams, back to back season opening home games, 844 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: they're you know, obviously, you know, coming in off of 845 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 4: the offseason, so they've had like a lot of rest 846 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: and then they have more rest to play at home 847 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: next week. For the Bills, like this is a tough 848 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 4: stretch to open the year that they have right Thursday 849 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 4: Night football at the Rams home to Titans, on Monday 850 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 4: Night football at Dolphins at Ravens home versus the Steelers, 851 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 4: and then at the Chiefs. Like that's that is a 852 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 4: tough stretch before they get to the week seven by 853 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 4: and so I think that can factor into this some 854 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: positive trends for the Rams. McVeigh obviously, like people know 855 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 4: this like five and zero in week one to open 856 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 4: the season, Like I don't think that is a total fluke, 857 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: Like he's eight and two against the spread in weeks 858 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 4: one and two. Like I think if you give McVeigh, 859 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 4: you know, like time, I mean, it's such a cliche, 860 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: like you give him time to prepare, but like I 861 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 4: think there's just something where like his team is ready 862 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 4: in a way that a lot of other teams aren't, 863 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: and for the rest of the season, like McVay is 864 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 4: normally like a break even coach, But in the first 865 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 4: two weeks of the season like that is historically the 866 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 4: time to bet on McVeagh and Super Bowl champions in 867 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 4: primetime ten to five and one against the spread. I 868 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: think the key matchup here is that without Trudavius White, 869 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 4: it is really hard for the Bills to do what 870 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: they need to do in the secondary to slow down 871 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and Alan Robinson, Like they have to give 872 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 4: their slot cornerback some help. Right, There's not just that 873 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 4: they're without tru Davius White. They're also without last year's 874 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 4: number two cornerback, Levi Wallace. He left in free agency, 875 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 4: and so they have tarn Johnson as the slot corner. 876 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: He's fine, but last year he was not fine when 877 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: Trudavius White wasn't on the field. So like the safeties 878 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: are going to have to give him some safety help 879 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: over Cooper Cup, and that means that Alan Robinson is 880 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: going to be one on one on the outside against 881 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 4: either like two rookies or against Dane Jackson or Dane 882 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 4: Johnson a. Let me make sure I actually get his 883 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: name right. This is embarrassing. We're gonna have to edit 884 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: it out. We're now, We're not going to edit it out. Okay, 885 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 4: I just totally don't even have the information in front 886 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 4: of me that I was looking for Jackson. I had 887 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 4: it right the first time. Dan Jackson a seventh rounder 888 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 4: last year. Like, this is a bad situation that the 889 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: Bills have at perimeter cornerback, and who knows if Van 890 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 4: Jefferson is even going to be able to play in 891 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 4: this game. I don't think it matters that much. But 892 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 4: if he does, then this is even all the tougher 893 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 4: because he was actually a respectable number three wide receiver 894 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 4: last year. So I think Alan Robinson is going to 895 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 4: dominate on the outside if they don't give safety help 896 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 4: to Cooper Cup and they have to give help otherwise 897 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup is going to dominate them in the interior. 898 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 4: So that to me feels like the matchup that is 899 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 4: really going to determine how this game goes. 900 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: I think, like I don't no one is talking about 901 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: Shredavias White being out like he's like the key player 902 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: that like really is going swept under the rug. I 903 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: think it crossed like everything that I'm reading and it 904 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 3: is like a huge deal, Like and I totally agree 905 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: with you in that perspective where I haven't made a 906 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 3: pick yet and like if you asked me up a 907 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: couple of months ago, I would probably say Bills because 908 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: I was still in I'm still in awe of that 909 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 3: Bill's Rams Bill's Chiefs game. It was just like it 910 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: was like the greatest game ever. And I won't be 911 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 3: shocked that the Bills run it like three times, like 912 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: we're less than ten times where Bobby Wagner's on the 913 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: Rams now got Donald Donald in the middle, Like I 914 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: just don't with whoever their running back is. Like I'm 915 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: all in and I very much agree with everything that 916 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 3: you just said, and I was hoping that you would 917 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 3: convince me on the side or get me towards the side, which. 918 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 2: You definitely have someone. 919 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying the I'm not going to be on 920 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 3: the Bills at this point, but this is definitely the 921 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 3: worst secondary that mcdermot's had to work with. His zone 922 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 3: has been like successful, like no matter who he usually has, 923 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: but this is definitely the worst where I think Cup 924 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 3: had the last time mc Dunner played Cup it was 925 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: like hundred something. 926 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: The total in this one at bet MGM is fifty 927 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: two and a half. Do you guys have thoughts? It's 928 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: so astronomically high, but I can't bet it under. 929 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like I've projected out. You know, I feel 930 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: much better about my spread projections than my total projections. 931 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 4: But you know, projected it out and I have a 932 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 4: slight lean to the under. But there's no way I'm 933 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: betting it. I'm gonna tell you that I'm not betting 934 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 4: it at all. 935 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: I agree with that. Well. I honestly you think the 936 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: Bills are gonna throw it every single time? Yeah, it's which, 937 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: It's definitely raising. 938 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun game. I'm excited for the season. 939 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: I know you are too, VR. I know Matt is in. 940 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us here today. 941 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: It has been an absolute pleasure. Where can people find 942 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: you in the great work you're doing around the. 943 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 2: Internet Twitter, Vegas refund I can. 944 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: Sure use a Vegas refund on some of my bets 945 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: already for the season. But thank you again so much 946 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: for be in here with us. Guys. We will be 947 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: back on Thursday with more picks, analysis breakdowns as we 948 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: look at the entire week one state. We got a 949 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 1: very special guest coming up for that too. It's gonna 950 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: be a great one. And don't forget, of course, head 951 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: on over to bet MGM. Use the code betting pros 952 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: when you sign up and you get a thousand dollars 953 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: risk free bet right off the top, use it to 954 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: get your seasons started out on a high note by 955 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: betting rams plus two and a half. I guess that's Matt. 956 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: You're gonna say that that's what you should use it on. 957 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 4: Whatever you want. I mean, you're getting the Vegas rEFInd 958 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. 959 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: That's very true. Guys, it's been a pleasure. Thank you 960 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: so much, and we'll see you next episode.