Speaker 1: Forever.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hello, yes, hello America.
Speaker 3: You're kind of hot. Marie, you're on the list.
Speaker 4: Maybe you need to turn your volume down in your headphones. Andrew,
Speaker 4: do I sound okay?
Speaker 5: Babe?
Speaker 6: I think he's I mean it could probably be further
Speaker 6: away from her.
Speaker 4: This is where I usually have it, so I also
Speaker 4: I also can't hear myself. So there it is, There
Speaker 4: is there is Okay.
Speaker 2: Oh that's my bad.
Speaker 3: Guys, let me hey, all right, we're keeping that in
Speaker 3: because there's no edits here at no unofficial expert. We
Speaker 3: keep it all the way one un real, wraw.
Speaker 2: Editing, unfiltering, no face to hashtag. Leave it in there.
Speaker 3: Hey, baby, how you doings?
Speaker 2: I missed you, even though I saw you like an
Speaker 2: hour ago. I saw Sidney twice today. How lucky you are?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: I was honestly saying that when I was in the cab,
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe I have the bestest
Speaker 3: friend in the whole wide world.
Speaker 2: Did you take it edible to that you asked me
Speaker 2: about one?
Speaker 3: Did you know I saw you a lot this weekend
Speaker 3: and it did brighten my day or my weekend? I guess,
Speaker 3: And you knew, you know you cooked for me and
Speaker 3: well not just me. I don't want anybody think that
Speaker 3: Murray is trying to date me.
Speaker 2: But she might be trying to bag I'm trying to
Speaker 2: bag my business.
Speaker 3: She might do it for the story, right, imagine if
Speaker 3: you hooked up with me.
Speaker 2: To tell a story.
Speaker 3: But like, yo, the pussies trash, y'all.
Speaker 2: It's both of us just laying on our side, just
Speaker 2: like neither one of us want to do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, honestly, that that's what it would be.
Speaker 2: Friend. I mean, I feel like overall sex is too
Speaker 2: much work for me. If I have to be on
Speaker 2: top or like if I have to like if I
Speaker 2: have to do the moving, it's too much work for me.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm taking magnesium and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: like rebuild my muscles, and I'm working out on YouTube.
Speaker 2: So like maybe this time next year I'm gonna be,
Speaker 2: you know, captain of being on top.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is that because I was so trash
Speaker 3: in my last last relationship, I'm really just trying to
Speaker 3: prove myself in this one. So I'm putting in a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, backwork, very arching arching more. You know,
Speaker 3: got the lingerie lingeree going on. I'm really really throwing
Speaker 3: it back and just trying.
Speaker 5: To be.
Speaker 6: Your neighbors know that you're putting.
Speaker 2: In no, not her neighbors, her booth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so long ago, like nobody's even mentioning
Speaker 3: that anymore.
Speaker 6: Andrew, I'm sorry for bringing it up.
Speaker 2: Oh no, thank you, thank you Andrew for keeping us humble. Okay,
Speaker 2: but Andrew, how are you doing?
Speaker 5: How are you doing, bab.
Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I mean, what do you what are
Speaker 6: you alluding to.
Speaker 3: The neighbors about you?
Speaker 6: They never say anything. I have air pods now.
Speaker 3: So I'm having sex.
Speaker 6: I know I'm talking about like it's exclusively music. And
Speaker 6: also I'm not that vocal during sex.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I used to play the music on the stereo and
Speaker 6: then someone did complain, and so now I have a BODS.
Speaker 2: And you please sell us some kind of music. In
Speaker 2: my mind, I see you putting the CD in the
Speaker 2: stereo before I do. I do.
Speaker 6: I did have like a lot of CDs before, you know,
Speaker 6: they were.
Speaker 2: Like it was like six sex jams.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: The song right now is New New Attitude Patty LaBelle.
Speaker 6: I have been listening to that on repeat. That has
Speaker 6: had a resurgence.
Speaker 2: That's sex songs.
Speaker 3: I said that was the song anti that it does
Speaker 3: get you in the in a better vibe.
Speaker 6: A new attitude.
Speaker 4: If you're in a Calistens class. I'm not understanding what
Speaker 4: you do for you. Okay, you know what, at the
Speaker 4: end of this episode, insert that song.
Speaker 2: As like the out we do that, Andrew.
Speaker 3: I can honestly see you waking up playing that song,
Speaker 3: starting it off and like doing that kind of like
Speaker 3: Top Gun you only have a shirt on in white
Speaker 3: sox and like slipping and slide in your apartment.
Speaker 6: Yeah. The movie that you're alluding to is Risky Business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing, Tom Cruise, I said, Tom Hank.
Speaker 2: He said Tom, she said Top Gun, and I was like,
Speaker 2: same guys.
Speaker 3: That's the same same guy, different movie, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: It's Top Gun, the one that has like the Homer
Speaker 2: erotic volleyball scenes. It's the top movie where he's like.
Speaker 6: Well, are you talking about Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise?
Speaker 7: Now, Tom Cruise, you know this is Tom Tom too
Speaker 7: many Toms, too many time Tom for Okay, so wait, Marie,
Speaker 7: are we doing expertises this episode?
Speaker 2: S yes, absolutely, go ahead and start us off. Mane oh,
Speaker 2: I got to start it off.
Speaker 5: Well, you you bought it up off.
Speaker 2: That's something you want to share the energy that you
Speaker 2: brought to the table, was Marie, are we because I'm ready? No,
Speaker 2: it didn't sound like that.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like, Marie, do you want to
Speaker 3: because if not, we don't have to.
Speaker 6: I don't know why you would bring it up if
Speaker 6: you didn't have one.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, I don't like that you guys are
Speaker 3: ganging up with me. This is really weird and it's
Speaker 3: very racist and homophobic.
Speaker 2: I'm a black woman and I'm queer a Jason and
Speaker 2: Andrew is gay, so it was.
Speaker 6: Not racially charged my combats.
Speaker 2: Sidney. Is there something that you want to share because
Speaker 2: we can have some share time? You know?
Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm an expert in trying to prepare,
Speaker 3: but I'm always last minute. So even if I try
Speaker 3: to put in an effort to prepare.
Speaker 2: It's not enough.
Speaker 3: Like me and Marie are shooting something that stand up related,
Speaker 3: even though do we even do stand up anymore?
Speaker 2: Girl, I have nothing prepared. I don't even know how
Speaker 2: to craft the joke. Five minutes feels like a lifetime
Speaker 2: for me. I'm like, you want me to talk.
Speaker 3: For five, right, So me, me and Marie are looking
Speaker 3: through old notebooks and you know, I can't even read
Speaker 3: my handwriting because it's chicken scratch, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: What is this set up and a touchline? Do you
Speaker 2: have to do both?
Speaker 3: So I've been trying. I've been like talking to other people.
Speaker 3: I actually should have called my the guests. Actually I'm
Speaker 3: going to talk to the guests afterwards and maybe try
Speaker 3: to work on some stuff with her if she's available.
Speaker 5: But I've called a couple of friends.
Speaker 3: And I still went to a show the day before
Speaker 3: and bomb my ass off on a on a rooftop
Speaker 3: and it was old shivering shivering.
Speaker 5: In my bomb. It hurt.
Speaker 3: It was only single people for those six people definitely
Speaker 3: wanted their money back and it was a free show.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like I'm really struggling because like
Speaker 4: I was a lazy comedian before, Like I wasn't really writing.
Speaker 4: I would just get on stage and like talk to
Speaker 4: the audience and like funny stuff would come out of
Speaker 4: what I was saying when I was on stage. And
Speaker 4: now I'm not on stage at all, and I'm still.
Speaker 5: Wow. Sorry, I hope they miss popular.
Speaker 2: I hope the quick time pick that up soon picked
Speaker 2: up sitting it in the phone hall.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I uh, I don't have anything prepared, and uh,
Speaker 4: I think what's gonna happen is I'm gonna show up
Speaker 4: to this taping this weekend and I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 4: I'm not just give you guys your.
Speaker 3: Money back, because no, no, Marie, you're one of the
Speaker 3: funniest people I know in real life, and you're gonna
Speaker 3: pull me together.
Speaker 4: But saying someone's funny in real life and then somebody
Speaker 4: shooting a.
Speaker 2: Video that lives on YouTube forever or until I'm rich
Speaker 2: enough to get it pulled down is not the same thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not Beyonce. It if I bomb, and then they
Speaker 2: put the set up on YouTube, all of.
Speaker 4: The white men that I will never have sex with
Speaker 4: are gonna be like women aren't funny and this is
Speaker 4: too black for me, or whatever the hell the guvernment's
Speaker 4: gonna say from these nerdy as dudes. But you know,
Speaker 4: I still want to I want to put something that
Speaker 4: I'm proud of out and.
Speaker 2: Right now six is retired, so it's like, do I.
Speaker 8: Do how many?
Speaker 2: And you I'm still gonna roast you in the streets.
Speaker 3: No, you're gonna pull it together. And we we did
Speaker 3: a workshop today and it was like for an hour
Speaker 3: and it felt good. I feel like we if we
Speaker 3: do a couple more of those, maybe.
Speaker 2: We'll get our guests.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll work shop some more stuff with our guests. Today,
Speaker 3: she imagined her coming in thinking she's gonna talk about
Speaker 3: whatever her expertise, and it's like, hey, sis, so we're
Speaker 3: gonna go for the first thirty minutes and we're not
Speaker 3: gonna pay you to punch it up at all, you know,
Speaker 3: just doing it and you're being an ally.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, thank you for helping sisters and me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you'll be fine.
Speaker 4: Marie.
Speaker 3: I have all of my faith in you, and you're
Speaker 3: you're wonderful. You know that you're so funny even if
Speaker 3: you do it right now, you.
Speaker 2: Should be like a life coach or something something something
Speaker 2: along the lines where you're like, did you were you
Speaker 2: a cheerleader in school?
Speaker 3: No, bitch, I just I just see the good in
Speaker 3: my friend, even when she can't see it. Right now,
Speaker 3: I've seen you be so funny off the fly and
Speaker 3: you can tag and tag.
Speaker 2: That was like ten years ago, before we discovered electricity.
Speaker 4: That was before sput Nick, you haven't seen me be
Speaker 4: funny in mad Law. But I love the enthusiasm. I
Speaker 4: love how excited you are.
Speaker 3: Well, you know I we're just going to bring in
Speaker 3: our guests because she definitely speak on behalf of everybody
Speaker 3: that knows you very well. We're very excited to have her.
Speaker 3: This is her second go round. This is her redeeming
Speaker 3: herself because she doesn't feel like the first time she
Speaker 3: came on she brought anything to the table. So she's
Speaker 3: gonna come in very hot and actually she's actually going
Speaker 3: to provide so much tips that you might go out
Speaker 3: and murder. She is our murder expert. Give it up
Speaker 3: for our really good friend Lisa Traeger.
Speaker 8: Hello, I'm excited to be here. Also, fuck those six people.
Speaker 8: They know we're having a hard time, Like they I
Speaker 8: just fuck them.
Speaker 5: I just don't know why you wouldn't even let out
Speaker 5: a giggle.
Speaker 3: I mean they left at some things, but it honestly,
Speaker 3: it felt like the show was right near Times Square
Speaker 3: and they were just waiting for their bus like they
Speaker 3: They're like, this is the layover.
Speaker 2: We just wait here. We got it.
Speaker 3: We got an hour and a half to kill and
Speaker 3: then we got to get on you know, the Peter
Speaker 3: Pan to go back to fucking Minnesota.
Speaker 8: Well, I don't want to get in trouble for saying this,
Speaker 8: but I did see on Twitter people were saying, like,
Speaker 8: it's great that the greatest comics ever were kind of
Speaker 8: bombing on Es and l you know, it's like it
Speaker 8: gives hope for the rest of us. If they're not
Speaker 8: slaughtering what you know, what hope is there for the
Speaker 8: rest of us.
Speaker 4: And honestly, truly, I love watching people do bad in public,
Speaker 4: not necessarily just comedians, but I love watching.
Speaker 2: People fail in real time.
Speaker 4: That like watching somebody like fumble something, or watching somebody fall,
Speaker 4: or watching somebody carry too many bags of groceries from
Speaker 4: the car all that.
Speaker 2: Like, I love watching people struggle, so yeah, that makes
Speaker 2: that makes me feel good. But I myself hate struggling.
Speaker 5: But will there be an audience? Yes, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Great, maybe it'll be like eight people there. I have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 5: Can you go up together?
Speaker 2: That would be nice.
Speaker 3: Imagine if we did a set together, Marie, then we
Speaker 3: hate those wars.
Speaker 8: I was also gonna say, even if you do so good,
Speaker 8: the comments are still going to be bad. It's true
Speaker 8: because people make fun of Like on Twitter, people will
Speaker 8: write mean things. And then one of my favorite porn
Speaker 8: stars a hot photo of herself and some dude was like,
Speaker 8: go to the gym and this is a woman that
Speaker 8: is paid to fuck on camera, like top girl.
Speaker 5: In the world. And I'm like, who's your favorite porn star?
Speaker 8: She's one of But Keisha Gray is so Hotsha that
Speaker 8: sounds promising.
Speaker 3: So so, Liza, I am your type.
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 2: Hey, you like girls named Keisha?
Speaker 5: Oh well, it's her porn name. Are you gonna be mad?
Speaker 8: She isn't black, so I guess it's week's name that's problematic.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker 5: So glad.
Speaker 8: I do have some favorite black porn stars. This guy
Speaker 8: named Mickey Mad.
Speaker 3: I mean, she definitely looks like she fucks only black guys.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she does a lot of like twelve black guys
Speaker 8: in her yeah, okay, twelve, Yeah, she does, like giant interrac.
Speaker 2: Why now, why is she your favorite porn star?
Speaker 5: Because she she's one.
Speaker 4: I just beautiful, Okay, So it's not it's not necessarily technique.
Speaker 2: It's just you like what she looks.
Speaker 8: And the skill, Like you know, you always like a
Speaker 8: porn star where they look like they're enjoying themselves and
Speaker 8: they're having a good time, they're getting into it.
Speaker 5: And she does follow me on Twitter, and I like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll shout out to Keisha Gray. No white Keisha
Speaker 3: great because there might be a black Keisha Gray out there.
Speaker 4: You notice a Keisha Gray. But the way she spells
Speaker 4: her name there, it's an eye out a y and
Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, I see it.
Speaker 2: Okay. And who was the black man?
Speaker 5: Mickey mad He's one of my faves.
Speaker 2: Well, I would think that that was a white man,
Speaker 2: Mickey Maud.
Speaker 8: There's actually a couple. There's a few black dudes that
Speaker 8: are great. Ricky Johnson is really great and Isaiah Maxwell
Speaker 8: is great.
Speaker 5: But what about the black women?
Speaker 2: Lisa?
Speaker 5: What about the skin?
Speaker 8: Uh no, well, skin diamond is one, but Honey Golds
Speaker 8: is great.
Speaker 2: She's mixed skin diamond, all right, skin diamond that sounds
Speaker 2: like a black girl.
Speaker 5: Points Honey Gold. And then Kira Noir is great.
Speaker 3: Oh I like Kira. Yeah, she does a lot of anal.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh that's why you like her sis because she let butts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gotta she's got a clean butthole.
Speaker 2: Boy. Oh, well, she would have a clean bootyhole was
Speaker 2: worn on camera.
Speaker 6: That's bare minimum for anal.
Speaker 3: But sometimes the butt just it doesn't look like they
Speaker 3: don't bleach it, like you could see some of the
Speaker 3: like darkness and bumps.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, okay, the bumps can't You can't
Speaker 2: do nothing about the bumps. But the darkness beach your
Speaker 2: but it's supposed to be darker than the rest of
Speaker 2: your body.
Speaker 5: But they asshole. Yeah, but that's not good for you.
Speaker 5: Bleaching Buttleydney doesn't.
Speaker 2: Dudes, that's not good for you either. Yes, it is. No,
Speaker 2: God gave us holes to use.
Speaker 8: No, there's well this was I think it's from a book.
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's real, but I think girls
Speaker 8: do prolapse in their buttholes and have issues.
Speaker 5: Eventually.
Speaker 8: I think they do loosen up their buttholes if you're
Speaker 8: con instantly ramming it.
Speaker 2: Like more Snapple facts for me, and Andrew, did you
Speaker 2: say yes? Is that your expert opinion?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I know, at least like men's buttholes,
Speaker 6: if you keep on like doing a lot up there,
Speaker 6: you know there will be an effect. You know, it
Speaker 6: will not look natural anymore.
Speaker 2: Now, would you get your booty hole bleached?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I mean, like we're saying it's
Speaker 6: not healthy.
Speaker 5: It deteriorates the skin.
Speaker 8: I think it weakens it, and then you don't want
Speaker 8: tearing down there.
Speaker 2: No, that's how you get booty.
Speaker 5: In such Yeah, I think that's universal wants.
Speaker 2: But I will say that the dude that I was
Speaker 2: banging last used to compliment my butthole all the time.
Speaker 2: We never did anal, but he was always like, you,
Speaker 2: such a beautiful butthole.
Speaker 3: One fact, Marie has a tight, tight, beautiful little ass.
Speaker 4: It looks like a button. It looks like Corduoyd remember Corduoid,
Speaker 4: the bear in the boot.
Speaker 2: Corduroys eyes.
Speaker 3: Oh man, the specifics on that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I do have a secret. I will reveal I actually
Speaker 5: have a second butthole.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, excuse me, sorry, I have like a little hole
Speaker 8: on top of my bubble. It's not it doesn't go
Speaker 8: into it intestines or anything. It's just like a hole
Speaker 8: that you can like put a cran or a cigarette
Speaker 8: a little bit into.
Speaker 4: That's what you started, Liza, Liza, Liza, Okay, well, now
Speaker 4: you gotta show it's just.
Speaker 2: Between the family.
Speaker 5: I will, I will show you later.
Speaker 8: But it's because I have an extra tailbone and my
Speaker 8: skin didn't have time to close or something.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: My dad sat me down once and I thought it
Speaker 8: was going to be a sex talk, and then he
Speaker 8: explained to me, and I have an extra tailbone and
Speaker 8: instead of out like shallow hall, it's in wait.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: Sorry.
Speaker 4: Your tailbone, from what I remember, is connected to your
Speaker 4: spinal cord.
Speaker 2: It's the end of your spine. You got two bags.
Speaker 5: I don't have to too.
Speaker 8: Hole I have like it goes sideway, like I just
Speaker 8: have an extra extra tailbomb in a weird way.
Speaker 4: So you'd be putting you'd be putting other stuff in
Speaker 4: there besides crayons and.
Speaker 8: Just a cigarette, but you have to clean it, like
Speaker 8: you know, what is it like an astray?
Speaker 3: Why would somebody be putting a cigarette and your when.
Speaker 8: You're a teenager, you know, it's like look at what
Speaker 8: I have, and then it's like can you put you know,
Speaker 8: like let's see what's up.
Speaker 5: And then it's like.
Speaker 2: Funny showing when you were a teenager, you were showing
Speaker 2: people you had two buttholes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like we'd go to a bathroom or like later
Speaker 8: in my teens it's yeah, Lisa, are.
Speaker 2: You still friends with those people?
Speaker 4: No, Lisa was voted most likely to do anal in
Speaker 4: high school.
Speaker 8: But I do wonder the people that I had one
Speaker 8: night stands with or drunken hookups if later they were
Speaker 8: like I had this girl with an extra hole, like
Speaker 8: I forgot. I didn't realize that people probably first.
Speaker 3: Of all, any guy saying that out loud, other guys
Speaker 3: be like, where she at?
Speaker 2: Where she at? Where the booty at? Okay?
Speaker 4: So okay, so where is this extra booty hole? Is
Speaker 4: it above the original or is it between the two?
Speaker 5: No, that would be a problem, that would be really.
Speaker 2: You said you were going to redeem yourself. You showed
Speaker 2: me a girl you we love you? Best episode yet? Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is top ten best me.
Speaker 5: It's like an inch above or something.
Speaker 2: Girl, I love this extra booty hole.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can that be the title extra booty hole for you?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's real? This back in Yeah. So, so Lee's
Speaker 2: where are you right now?
Speaker 5: How you doing? So?
Speaker 8: If you can tell, I have a lot of Judaica
Speaker 8: art behind me and I'm at my sister's husband's parents' house.
Speaker 8: I would call them my in laws, but it confuses people.
Speaker 4: Sisters husband's parents' house, so not blood related, but you like,
Speaker 4: I need a place to stay.
Speaker 8: Well, they went away to see their grandkids for the winter,
Speaker 8: like they went to California, because I'm in the Chicago
Speaker 8: suburbs and they I've known them since I was five.
Speaker 8: My sister and her husband have been together since sophomore
Speaker 8: year of high school and they're forty three now. So
Speaker 8: these people have watched me grow up. And so I'm
Speaker 8: staying here because when I stayed with my parents there
Speaker 8: were a lot of fights.
Speaker 2: Well I mean that other booty hole was definitely go
Speaker 2: in the way.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so.
Speaker 8: It's really nice and all this art I grew up with,
Speaker 8: so it makes me feel nice.
Speaker 3: I will say, Liza, you look like you're in a
Speaker 3: great place, like you're just really happy.
Speaker 2: You got a scrunchy and we love Yeah. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got huh.
Speaker 8: I've had a sore throat. So actually for a week
Speaker 8: it's been awful. I got a negative COVID test, a
Speaker 8: negative strap test, no idea what's up? And then today
Speaker 8: the doctor told me I've puffy tonsils.
Speaker 5: So knowing what's wrong with me has made me happy
Speaker 5: because I was spiraling.
Speaker 2: Right now, how does one get puffy tonsils?
Speaker 5: Too much? Oral?
Speaker 2: They'll talk about that.
Speaker 8: I wish I've been like, I think I've crossed over
Speaker 8: to being celibate. Honestly, it's really I was like not
Speaker 8: getting it before the pandemic, and now it's like fuck,
Speaker 8: it's tough.
Speaker 2: No, now it's like fuck me, Yeah that's what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, I want to just say that other booty holes
Speaker 3: got to be extra tight, right.
Speaker 2: Since all Lisa, you get regret bothered over here.
Speaker 3: I swear, I'm like, I need to go and get
Speaker 3: a ticket and come see you d.
Speaker 2: Take care of you.
Speaker 8: You know, I definitely had an ex who would like
Speaker 8: pretend to talk with it, you know.
Speaker 2: That slame you said, talk to it like they would like, no.
Speaker 5: Like talk with it, like pretend it was talking. No,
Speaker 5: they were like moving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be like, honey, don't play with your food, okay,
Speaker 3: eat it, don't speak to it okay.
Speaker 2: So you originally had given us a couple of different
Speaker 2: things that you wanted to be an expert own.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so I can't I prepared how to be
Speaker 8: a virgo expert, you know, like how to be a Virgo,
Speaker 8: how to deal with a Virgo, But then I also
Speaker 8: can do how to get away with murder? Because I've
Speaker 8: been researching a lot of crimes and watching I mean,
Speaker 8: I've always watched a Loan Order SVUE, but I have
Speaker 8: a new podcast coming out that's sv related, and so
Speaker 8: I've been researching all these murders, how people get caught
Speaker 8: and SVU all the dumb things criminals do, and so
Speaker 8: I do know. I've I think I would get caught,
Speaker 8: but I there's a lot of I do have some
Speaker 8: advice if you do want to murder, but I don't
Speaker 8: know what if we get in trouble. This is actually
Speaker 8: an SVU style episode where we would just be talking
Speaker 8: how to do it, and then someone would do it,
Speaker 8: say they listened to this pod guests, and then we
Speaker 8: would be tried.
Speaker 2: But isn't that what isn't that what basic instinct was about?
Speaker 2: I never saw she wrote I saw it. Oh, she
Speaker 2: did write a book. And if she wrote a book, and.
Speaker 3: It's basically like oh, Jay Simpson's book, like if I
Speaker 3: did it?
Speaker 4: Kind of No, she wrote the book and then a
Speaker 4: murder happened like in the book.
Speaker 2: Oh, and she was like, I'd have to be kind
Speaker 2: of stupid to write about it before I did it.
Speaker 4: And then she crossed her legs and she didn't have
Speaker 4: no panties on, and the cops were like, oh, she's innocent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she waxed for that.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. She didn't have no strip or nothing.
Speaker 3: It was just straight up lips.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not crazy. Brazilian waxes have been a
Speaker 2: thing for a minute, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait to get laser.
Speaker 8: That's a post pandemic goal. I'm gonna laser at all.
Speaker 2: Oh so you got you got a force down there?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 5: No? But like I don't I waxing fucking hurts. I don't.
Speaker 8: I'd rather just hurt a little for a laser and
Speaker 8: then be done with it for a while.
Speaker 2: But don't you have to go to multiple visits for
Speaker 2: the laser to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I used to work at a laser plate well salant whatever,
Speaker 8: but then I had a couple and then I didn't
Speaker 8: work there anymore, so.
Speaker 5: I couldn't finish this. You got fired, I would quit,
Speaker 5: that's my thing.
Speaker 8: I would stay at a salon for a year and
Speaker 8: a half and then my attitude would become a problem
Speaker 8: and I have to move on to another salon.
Speaker 2: I love that for you.
Speaker 4: Now, would you put the real number to the place
Speaker 4: that you got fired from on your resumes?
Speaker 5: I would always quit. I would always quit.
Speaker 8: It would like I would just sense that I wasn't
Speaker 8: beloved anymore.
Speaker 5: And once that happens, you just have to move on.
Speaker 3: And that should go for even in relationships. When you
Speaker 3: feel like it's not hating no more, you gotta dash.
Speaker 8: Yeah, once they're like okay, so this client said, and
Speaker 8: I'm out, Like.
Speaker 2: I when I tell people I've been fired from every
Speaker 2: job I've ever had, I sometimes we'll forget jobs that
Speaker 2: I was fired from that I was at for like
Speaker 2: a week. I I don't think I've ever had a
Speaker 2: job for like more than I don't think I've been
Speaker 2: at a job for a year.
Speaker 4: Ever, every job I've ever had has been like for
Speaker 4: less than that. Because you know, a client said, or.
Speaker 3: You're late all the time, usually your lateness, bitch, No,
Speaker 3: since it was a combination of lateness and attitude.
Speaker 2: Honestly so it was.
Speaker 8: Or one time to my manager, I asked her a question,
Speaker 8: and I go, well, you're the manager, so why don't
Speaker 8: you know this? And I was like, obviously a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely don't want to be here if you're
Speaker 3: saying things like that.
Speaker 8: The one time I got fired, I was supposed to
Speaker 8: clean the floor of the gym and then the owner
Speaker 8: slipped and he was like, you have to go.
Speaker 5: He's like, what did you use tapes?
Speaker 4: Did you not put one of those little yellow questions?
Speaker 2: That was like, also, if a ground is that slippery,
Speaker 2: that means you saw it before you walked on it, right,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: But he sat me down and he was like, you
Speaker 8: know this is it's gonna work out.
Speaker 5: He was like a personal.
Speaker 8: Training gym and Natalie and I don't work out, Like,
Speaker 8: why would you work at a gym if you don't
Speaker 8: work out?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that don't say that for the gym,
Speaker 3: for the check oh.
Speaker 8: But I just feel because when you work at a
Speaker 8: hair salon, you have to that's it. I also got
Speaker 8: tired of having to like put on makeup and represent
Speaker 8: the hair careens, the products.
Speaker 2: Listen sis.
Speaker 4: I've been to many a hair salon, and in my experience,
Speaker 4: the people who do the best hair are the people
Speaker 4: whose hair usually looks the worst.
Speaker 2: Really you get to this when you go to the
Speaker 2: weak place.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're doing their hair, they don't have any
Speaker 3: more energy for you because they already did it for
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, If they're doing their hair, that means that they
Speaker 2: don't have enough clients during the week they have time
Speaker 2: to do their hair. I need you to be I
Speaker 2: need a wrap. I need the weed to be a
Speaker 2: little bit crooked. I need you to.
Speaker 5: Be a little bit of a hot mess for me
Speaker 5: to be comfort.
Speaker 3: Love a loose, messy ponytail, like kind of like what
Speaker 3: you got going on, Lisa.
Speaker 2: That's how you.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can lay my wig down properly.
Speaker 8: I still don't fully understand what edges are, and people
Speaker 8: keep is explaining it and I just don't understand.
Speaker 3: That's problematic, pandemic to Google.
Speaker 8: I Google, I read about it, I see the picture
Speaker 8: of the pictures, and I just am like, I just
Speaker 8: don't get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have the same problem because that just constantly
Speaker 6: gets brought up on this podcast. And I was on
Speaker 6: the subway the other day and I feel like I
Speaker 6: saw someone with really bad they look like it's just
Speaker 6: it was like, okay, so they have like their hair
Speaker 6: slipped back. But then they had like it was like
Speaker 6: very like crumbly hair.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to take that off of You're gonna
Speaker 3: have to edit that out.
Speaker 2: Leave it in there, crumbling meaning look like tackle me.
Speaker 6: No it wasn't, No, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 3: I want no parts.
Speaker 6: It was like a crinkled like bar code. I want
Speaker 6: to you know, like a bar code. But just like like.
Speaker 2: You're talking about baby hairs. Okay, so okay, okay, that's okay,
Speaker 2: that's not baby hairs is different than edges. But some
Speaker 2: people they don't have any edges, so they called them
Speaker 2: into baby hairs. Yes, me and Marie don't have great
Speaker 2: examples of either.
Speaker 5: So I have a messter.
Speaker 2: So you speak for yourself, Beach. Look at this. This
Speaker 2: is my edges, right, you see that. You see this
Speaker 2: right here, I'm gonna need a magnifying glass.
Speaker 4: I can't you need a manify glass for yourself, Beach anyway, anyway,
Speaker 4: get back to this murder.
Speaker 8: But I would like to say I was amazing at
Speaker 8: scheduling appointments, and if you were a good client, I
Speaker 8: would move things around, switch a lot, like I would
Speaker 8: go out of my way to make sure you got
Speaker 8: your roots done and stuff. But if you were a Mitch,
Speaker 8: there's no way I'm going out of my way. She's
Speaker 8: not available.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, she's she's booked till February.
Speaker 5: But if you were good, I'd be like, don't worry,
Speaker 5: I'll get you in. And I would.
Speaker 8: I'd be like, hey, can you come in fifteen minutes early?
Speaker 8: And the best part about being a slong reception. And
Speaker 8: I don't know why I turned into this, but people
Speaker 8: know you're in charge of their money, so they're.
Speaker 5: So good to you. They're like, oh, let me do
Speaker 5: your makeup before you go out, you know, and that
Speaker 5: was great.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love you know. Before the pandemic,
Speaker 2: there was a sephore that I would go to and
Speaker 2: there was a girl who she was like she was mixed,
Speaker 2: but every time I came in, she was like, you're
Speaker 2: the same complexion as my mom, and I just want
Speaker 2: to do your makeup and she would just like play
Speaker 2: with my face. And then I would go to like
Speaker 2: dates and stuff after did she do a good job?
Speaker 2: Miss that girl? She would always do a good job
Speaker 2: because she, you know, I was basically her mom.
Speaker 8: Okay, so four right now, I've waited out in line
Speaker 8: and you tell them what they you want and they
Speaker 8: go get it for you, and then you just come in,
Speaker 8: grab it and pay.
Speaker 2: Oh there is four about me.
Speaker 4: I went in there to pick up one item and
Speaker 4: they're like, we don't carry that brand. And I was like, what,
Speaker 4: It's on the website and.
Speaker 3: She was like, that's where you can get and play
Speaker 3: with the makeup. What Why the fuck would I go
Speaker 3: into there? Like the whole purpose is to try on stuff.
Speaker 3: It's I need samples. I'm not buying anything that I
Speaker 3: can't try on.
Speaker 8: I am about you, guys. You may have fun, you
Speaker 8: may you have fun with your makeup. I'm consistent. I've
Speaker 8: been using the same products for years.
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate, but I love that for you. Wow, it's
Speaker 2: something that works.
Speaker 8: That's the Twitter game. What sounds like a compliment, but
Speaker 8: isn't that?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 2: And truly Sydney is Queen of sounds like a compliment,
Speaker 2: but it is not. So I know that firsthand. So
Speaker 2: we don't really have to dwell on that. I know
Speaker 2: what you mean. Okay, so when is your birthday?
Speaker 5: Oh, we're gonna do the verse? Okay, No, just I
Speaker 5: mean I just want to.
Speaker 8: August thirty first and the and I have another virgo
Speaker 8: born on my day is Richard gear and he, you know,
Speaker 8: put a Gerbil.
Speaker 5: In his butt. Back to butt talks.
Speaker 2: What Richard Gerbil in his Richard Gerbil in his butt?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 2: Why did he do that?
Speaker 5: That's like a rumor that he liked the way it felt.
Speaker 6: You know why he did that?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, he did that so it could tickle
Speaker 2: his roth steak like I do that.
Speaker 6: You're the one that one wants to see a second
Speaker 6: buttthole on zoom.
Speaker 2: You can't talk about it not show it.
Speaker 4: Okay, those are those are two butt things that I
Speaker 4: want to see on the zume. I want to see
Speaker 4: a second buttthole and I want to see a gerbil
Speaker 4: going to something.
Speaker 8: Because I think he's ever denied it publicly. I don't
Speaker 8: think he's ever denied it.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's wild because it's a rumor. Andrew,
Speaker 4: had you'd heard this.
Speaker 6: From before I had heard this? Yeah, I completely forgot
Speaker 6: about this repressed.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sidney, you might have heard about this and forgot
Speaker 2: that this is something that I heard about. When I
Speaker 2: want to say, when I was in like second grade.
Speaker 2: People have just always this thing has always been kind
Speaker 2: of like a urban, urban legend.
Speaker 3: I missed, I missed the mark. I'm sorry, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I saw your.
Speaker 2: Allegedly he went to the hospital and they had to
Speaker 2: pull the dribble. Is that what the story is that?
Speaker 5: Looking it up? I think he's looking at it looks.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I'm looking it up.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do have a sweet Richard Gear story.
Speaker 8: But so my mom when she left Russia to America,
Speaker 8: her friends were all like, in America, You're going to
Speaker 8: be around celebrities and movie stars, like, good.
Speaker 5: Luck in America.
Speaker 8: And then while when I was in high school, we
Speaker 8: went to the Oprah Show and it was for the
Speaker 8: movie Shall We Dance? So it is Richard Gear, Susan
Speaker 8: Strand and Jalo were the guests, and we were standing
Speaker 8: in line outside and he drove by in a car
Speaker 8: and waved to us, and my mom was like, finally
Speaker 8: after all these years, and it meant like a lot
Speaker 8: to her to see Richard Gere.
Speaker 6: It is an urban legend. This stirple uh fiasco with
Speaker 6: Richard Gere is what a lot of websites the smoke,
Speaker 6: there's fire exactly, And I'm gonna choose to believe it happened.
Speaker 2: How old is Richard Elizabeth?
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, let's.
Speaker 5: See, I'm gonna guess sixty four.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's on the truth. He is seventy he
Speaker 6: is seventy one.
Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, that was a Price of Bright moment.
Speaker 2: That was Yeah, what was the last Big Bob One?
Speaker 2: If I ever meet Richard gear I'm going to ask
Speaker 2: him about the dribbling.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, how does a rumor like that even start?
Speaker 6: You know, like that seems way too specific to not
Speaker 6: be true.
Speaker 3: Well, exactly, I met him before, and he he was
Speaker 3: he's a.
Speaker 2: Better look at second but hole scene.
Speaker 3: No, when I saw him, he he looked he looked
Speaker 3: tired or weathered or something. I don't know what was
Speaker 3: going on, but he definitely looked better on camera, but
Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody does. He was very nice though. He
Speaker 3: has he has beautiful eyes. I like that he has
Speaker 3: like Drew by Lid's.
Speaker 5: Oh that's another their insult.
Speaker 4: Thanks Trager, thank you for hearing the shade and receiving
Speaker 4: it looks like he's missing.
Speaker 5: Never mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, so baby cakes, So wait, have you always been
Speaker 3: into like murder or murder mysteries or shows with murder.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: When I was in junior high I got my dream
Speaker 8: was to be a forensic pathologist.
Speaker 2: No way.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I would get all the books of the
Speaker 8: psychologists that would be in with the criminals. And I
Speaker 8: love James Patterson books at the time and detectives. And
Speaker 8: then I was like, I don't want to be in
Speaker 8: a jail all day. That's like a sad life. Like
Speaker 8: I'm too happy for that.
Speaker 2: What is a forensic pathologist?
Speaker 8: So my favorite one is doctor Michael batt Well, he's
Speaker 8: more signed. I would be a forensic psychologist, that was
Speaker 8: the dream. But pathologist what my doctor Michael Baden of
Speaker 8: HBO's Autopsy always says, it's like the way the dead
Speaker 8: communicate with the living, and it's like.
Speaker 2: You need to watch all the time.
Speaker 5: He's amazing. He's still alive. He's in New York.
Speaker 8: He's in his eighties, Okay, yeah, and he it's basically
Speaker 8: like evidence, bones, hair details, fibers, the science of catching killers.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the science.
Speaker 4: Of but I also feel like, like when I was little,
Speaker 4: my mom used to always say, people like psychiatrists and
Speaker 4: psychologists people who work with crazy people become crazy themselves.
Speaker 2: So in my mind. By that logic, people who work
Speaker 2: with murderers or explore murder also become murderers too, So
Speaker 2: that was kind of like what my thought process was
Speaker 2: about that. But I've always been fascinated by like serial killers,
Speaker 2: Like that is the type of murder that's always been
Speaker 2: like interesting to me.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, do you guys you know the movie conn
Speaker 8: Air Steve Buscemi. In the movie, he says, you know,
Speaker 8: crimes of necessity aren't as fun, like the greats are
Speaker 8: always the greats and quotes are always like crimes of passion.
Speaker 5: Serial killers it's like their hobby. They love it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I need to pick up some new hobby.
Speaker 4: But I was always fascinated by female serial killers.
Speaker 2: And they call them black widow.
Speaker 8: There's not a lot, but I think women are better
Speaker 8: at getting away with it, to be honest. I think
Speaker 8: they use more like plants and herbs and make poisons.
Speaker 8: Even the women that eventually got caught by poisoning their husbands.
Speaker 8: Like they changed the way car fluids made. They were
Speaker 8: killing everyone with the freeze. What is anti anti freeze?
Speaker 3: And it's like it's such a slow death. It's like
Speaker 3: they're slowly they gotta wait around for like you know,
Speaker 3: one to six months for someone to die.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the women don't get caught.
Speaker 2: Really, I think the women don't get caught.
Speaker 4: I think until their like third husband dies and then
Speaker 4: somebody's like, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: He just disappeared, or or Carol Baskin or.
Speaker 8: Well, that's another tip I'd like to say, if you
Speaker 8: want to if nobody no case, they need to find
Speaker 8: the body to charge you. And so if they can't
Speaker 8: tell you the day and time you did it, or
Speaker 8: if there's nobody, they can't prove anything in court allegedly.
Speaker 3: Allegedly that's what they say. And don't take our word
Speaker 3: for it because we don't know.
Speaker 5: Don't kill anybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's this podcast.
Speaker 8: Well I learned that from I learned that from the
Speaker 8: case one of the Casey Anthony documentaries, because that's how
Speaker 8: she got away with it, because everyone knew she killed
Speaker 8: that baby.
Speaker 2: Wait, they never found her daughter.
Speaker 8: They found like pieces, but because of the Florida weather,
Speaker 8: she disintegrated. So it was just like a skull, like
Speaker 8: there wasn't a full body, and they could never prove
Speaker 8: the day and time.
Speaker 4: They just couldn't hold on. Casey Anthony is the one
Speaker 4: that did well?
Speaker 2: Was it Hillary Duff?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, that's right. In the SVU Hillary Duff
Speaker 5: player in.
Speaker 4: SVU, she was I just wanted to go to Coachella,
Speaker 4: and it was like it was like meat deli meat
Speaker 4: spilled in the trunk or something.
Speaker 2: And she was like, that's not my baby.
Speaker 3: She said, ain't nobody baby gonna stop me from pussy
Speaker 3: popping on a handstand.
Speaker 2: I'm out of here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was partying.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what all the new Nancy Grace and
Speaker 8: all of them, that's what they got stuck on, like
Speaker 8: chir baby's dead and she's dancing.
Speaker 3: Well, you gotta you gotta dance the the the right away.
Speaker 2: I'm so sad.
Speaker 5: And she also what she did well.
Speaker 8: And if you have to be a murderer, you have
Speaker 8: to be a great actor and liar. You have to
Speaker 8: be able to lie to the cops. You have to
Speaker 8: act like you're sad. You really have to lay it
Speaker 8: on thick.
Speaker 3: And I will say that white women are really great
Speaker 3: at that, yes, hands down historically.
Speaker 4: Except for the white women that have committed murders that
Speaker 4: we look at like, who was the one that they
Speaker 4: said killed her roommate in Italy and she was doing
Speaker 4: like cartwheels in the streets, Amanda.
Speaker 9: They were like, okay, so so give us, give us
Speaker 9: three tips on how to get away with murder.
Speaker 8: Oh gosh, Well, you don't want to have a clear
Speaker 8: motive and you need an alibi. You definitely need an alibi.
Speaker 2: But like what's a good alibi?
Speaker 3: Because saying you're having a friend that can say you
Speaker 3: were here at all, that's not enough.
Speaker 8: You want to study group, you want credit card receipts.
Speaker 8: You want to be at a club, like, you want
Speaker 8: to be somewhere a bingo tournament. That's great, it lasts
Speaker 8: for hours, you know, lots of people.
Speaker 2: You want a movie ticket.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And like they're also if you're gonna make sure
Speaker 8: there's no cameras everywhere, Like that's what people get caught
Speaker 8: because like there's a camera at the bank, there's CCTV everywhere,
Speaker 8: Like you have to make sure that there's no cameras
Speaker 8: catching you. But also, I don't know how much people
Speaker 8: actually investigate crime.
Speaker 2: That's another thing, because they are lazy as hell.
Speaker 3: They know how long it takes to actually get to
Speaker 3: the bottom of something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because a lot of the cases that I've been
Speaker 8: researching it's really horrific. It's like the women escape, they
Speaker 8: go to the cops, and the cops like you're kind
Speaker 8: of a slug and you're like drugs, We don't believe you,
Speaker 8: and so all like people keep killing because these cops
Speaker 8: just don't believe women.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's the thing about the stuff that we
Speaker 2: watch because you know your Door and Olivia Benson, Elliott Stabler,
Speaker 2: Captain Craigan, you know Toutula.
Speaker 5: We love the fantasy.
Speaker 4: But right, but in all of the things that we
Speaker 4: watch about cops, they saw the case every hour or
Speaker 4: some episodes are to be continued, and you're like, oh
Speaker 4: it wasn't. Oh I love a good to be continued. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but if you if you watch, can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Yeah? But now your parents, when you watch.
Speaker 3: First forty eight, a lot of the things are not
Speaker 3: getting sawd they show you, especially Florida, Oh Florida, that's
Speaker 3: little little Haiti, Little Haley, Little Haiti in Miami. Would
Speaker 3: none of the cases would get solved because they would
Speaker 3: burn the car, burn the body. They would do everything
Speaker 3: in broad daylight, and nobody would want to come and
Speaker 3: say that they say this to anything.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the difference and I think you have a
Speaker 4: joke about this, Lisa that used to do.
Speaker 2: But like most of the cops that are actually cops
Speaker 2: in real life, they're not solving cases.
Speaker 4: They don't these detected what No, they're they're eating donuts
Speaker 4: and planting guns.
Speaker 2: They're not like doing the actual to solve this.
Speaker 8: And if you watch forensic files, like usually the crimes
Speaker 8: that get solved are the tiniest towns ever they have
Speaker 8: all this time, Like I would hate to need I
Speaker 8: would hate to need an ambulance in New York City.
Speaker 8: Like when you see cars not moving in the one
Speaker 8: way streets, it's really New York's busy.
Speaker 5: It sucks.
Speaker 2: Listen, if I ever hurt myself, don't call an ambulance,
Speaker 2: call me an uber. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I will get there for twenty seven dollars instead of
Speaker 4: thirty seven thousand, does but I will.
Speaker 5: Sorry, No, I'm just saying I don't ever want to
Speaker 5: be But.
Speaker 8: Also with us, I do like that they make they
Speaker 8: have bad cops on it too, and then like Benson
Speaker 8: will fight them, like they're always like, oh, I'll get this.
Speaker 8: The panty police over here, like there's always kind of dick.
Speaker 5: Holes, which is nice that are like not believing it.
Speaker 8: But it's really crazy how many horrible judges there are that,
Speaker 8: let like, don't enforce restraining orders, and it's it's a system.
Speaker 5: Built by a fucking disgusting man.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is corrupt.
Speaker 3: But the thing about New York is that you would
Speaker 3: think that it's so big and it's so high in tech,
Speaker 3: but a lot of the video doesn't work. The security
Speaker 3: guard was sleeping, the neighbors were like, I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just really hard to get down
Speaker 2: to the bottom of anything.
Speaker 3: It's like, so this man was brutally beating this woman
Speaker 3: to death and you're saying nobody heard anything. Meanwhile, I'm
Speaker 3: having lesbian sex in LA and we're getting.
Speaker 5: Notes that we're too lat Yeah, but that's nice.
Speaker 2: Well that's because she was killing that poo, Okay.
Speaker 4: But my thing is like, when you watch those shows
Speaker 4: and the detectives are questioning neighbors and stuff, they're like, well,
Speaker 4: what time did you hear that?
Speaker 2: And they're like seventy.
Speaker 4: I don't know what time it is, right, I don't
Speaker 4: know what today I'm looking I'm looking at my laptop
Speaker 4: and don't know what time like a bar time will
Speaker 4: be like, oh yeah, she ordered a white wine and
Speaker 4: had four of us, Like yeah, it's like girl, but
Speaker 4: I actually am someone.
Speaker 8: I am guilty of getting myself into business and trying
Speaker 8: to call the authorities when I see something wrong and
Speaker 8: they always fail me.
Speaker 2: Lisa, why are you being a Karen? What happened?
Speaker 8: I saw a man like there was like a limp
Speaker 8: woman and she was being stuffed into a car in
Speaker 8: a way that a trunk or a bank a backseat.
Speaker 8: But it didn't seem like boyfriend my girlfriend's drunk energy.
Speaker 8: It seemed fucked up. And there was two guys and
Speaker 8: I was like, hey, what's going on? And he was
Speaker 8: And if it was a boyfriend, you the boyfriend would
Speaker 8: have been like, oh god, Stephanie's a fucking latch this again,
Speaker 8: you know, and we would have had a banter. But
Speaker 8: he was like mind your business, get the fuck, like
Speaker 8: being argumentative, and she wasn't going in and he was
Speaker 8: just being rough with her in a way I didn't like.
Speaker 5: So I called.
Speaker 8: This was in Grand Rapids and I called the police.
Speaker 8: I did the license, I give everything. I waited they
Speaker 8: wouldn't come. I tried chasing the car nothing. I couldn't
Speaker 8: keep up.
Speaker 4: You tried chasing the car, so you got in a
Speaker 4: cab and you're like, though the car no, I was running.
Speaker 2: Cat was like the cat was like I need an
Speaker 2: adamss man.
Speaker 8: I was also with I was with Shang Wang and
Speaker 8: he was like, I guess I have to watch her
Speaker 8: do this shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was fucked up and they never came.
Speaker 8: And then one time I was driving and I saw
Speaker 8: a man beating up two women and when I started
Speaker 8: slowing down, he turned and screamed at me. So I
Speaker 8: got nervous, so I drove a little and called book.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the ethnicity of this man?
Speaker 5: White or Greek? Maybe Latino?
Speaker 2: Oh? White?
Speaker 5: White?
Speaker 2: Yes? The first one word, wait, white or Greek like
Speaker 2: the same thing. My big bet Greek wedding is thank
Speaker 2: you for white or Greek or Latino?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lisa, we know if we were going to ask
Speaker 3: you as a witness, that wouldn't have goat, that wouldn't
Speaker 3: have went through.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you need to have a good alibi, you know.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, you want to make sure people.
Speaker 8: But this is what always happens on those shows is
Speaker 8: there's like always a break in twenty minutes where no
Speaker 8: one saw them and it's enough time. So I don't
Speaker 8: really know how to solve that kind of dilemma, but
Speaker 8: you want to make sure there's cameras of you enjoying
Speaker 8: things and you know.
Speaker 2: And don't be caught in the supermarket buying a shovel
Speaker 2: and a bag.
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, leave town to do those things
Speaker 8: like a lot of time.
Speaker 2: Oh and pay cash, pay cash.
Speaker 8: Or they'll go to a pawn shop a block from
Speaker 8: their house to pawn a necklace. You know, like you
Speaker 8: have to leave town. You can't be like leaving evidence
Speaker 8: all over town.
Speaker 4: Or they'll hold on to stuff, like they'll take something
Speaker 4: from the scene and it'll be in their house on
Speaker 4: their books.
Speaker 8: Doctor Michael Baden always says that they always leave something
Speaker 8: or take something. Yeah, there's it's very rare that they
Speaker 8: don't because it's it's little things. I mean, those are
Speaker 8: the best crimes that are solved forensic files. When it's
Speaker 8: like one fiber of a pant on the body is
Speaker 8: how they catch the person, or like.
Speaker 3: Or the person had a cat and the cat there
Speaker 3: was in the rug that they rolled the person up in.
Speaker 8: Did you watch the one where he got a footprint
Speaker 8: and a Hamburger bun. No, he was running away, his
Speaker 8: foot stepped in a Hamburger bun and they had a
Speaker 8: footprint in the Hamburger bun. And that's how the guy
Speaker 8: got caught.
Speaker 3: Okay, well here's murder, because Marie is just doing so
Speaker 3: much murder.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited that you were.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. But here's my top.
Speaker 4: Don't wear your exclusive stuff to kill somebody because people
Speaker 4: will be like, like the Hamburger footprint guy.
Speaker 2: It will be like, well, these only one hundred pairs
Speaker 2: of these shoes were made.
Speaker 5: There was an.
Speaker 2: Episode and he was barefoot.
Speaker 5: They got he was in it. Yeah, and I guess
Speaker 5: feetprints are like handprints. They're unique to the body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know nobody has so Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 6: What was the thing with the finger and the Wendy's chili?
Speaker 6: What happened there? Do you remember this?
Speaker 4: Nuts?
Speaker 6: Is that someone if someone went to Wendy's ordered to
Speaker 6: chili and then they found a finger obviously cut off,
Speaker 6: not attached to a person, and they're chili, thought that
Speaker 6: you all would know more if.
Speaker 3: It was good and the finger was in it would
Speaker 3: be like what kind of person.
Speaker 2: They put the hand hand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's so funny in this story.
Speaker 2: I've also never had fast food chili, So no any
Speaker 2: more tips, Lisa.
Speaker 8: Don't have like secret beliefs on the internet, you know, like,
Speaker 8: don't like kill a bunch of people. Let's say a
Speaker 8: bunch of Asian people and then have an anti Asian
Speaker 8: website or something like that, Like you're.
Speaker 5: All doing that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, wow, Yeah, they'll like suddenly they're killing prostitutes and
Speaker 8: they're like Bible thumping, prostitute hater, sex worker. I'm sorry Jesus,
Speaker 8: but you.
Speaker 2: Can't say prostitute anymore. Saying the word prostitute is that problematic?
Speaker 2: It is, I think, so wait why.
Speaker 5: I think it's sex worker? Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Interesting, maybe not, I don't know. I mean, okay.
Speaker 8: I also want to say, don't tell anybody work alone,
Speaker 8: because you don't want anyone flipping on you. And I
Speaker 8: remember one time this guy I forgot his murder, but
Speaker 8: he ended up telling his future wife and then they
Speaker 8: got divorced, and she went right to the station and
Speaker 8: told on him she was she.
Speaker 3: Couldn't wait to get divorced because when you're married, then
Speaker 3: there's a clause like you can't.
Speaker 2: What is it? You can?
Speaker 5: You just don't have to they can.
Speaker 4: It's uh, I don't know what it's called, but it's
Speaker 4: like it's like doctor client privilege, but like mad Right, Okay,
Speaker 4: here's another murder chist. Don't use your cell phone where
Speaker 4: you go dump the body, because when we use our phones,
Speaker 4: the towers that are closest to our phones will tell
Speaker 4: people exactly where we're at.
Speaker 2: You got to get a burner phone. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: like I thought that was something that like people more
Speaker 2: people would know when people like send text messages and
Speaker 2: they're like on my way.
Speaker 3: King in Vegas, or though even take a picture of
Speaker 3: the body, it's like, why is that on your phone?
Speaker 2: Sir? I don't know. People are crazy.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 8: Oh, if it's someone you love, don't impede the investigation.
Speaker 8: You have to be as helpful as possible. Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: I don't ever be like why are you looking at
Speaker 8: my house? Because then maloney can be like, well, if
Speaker 8: your son is missing, usually with you would help us.
Speaker 5: Why are you being so defensive?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I watched it.
Speaker 3: I fell into this real like hole on YouTube and
Speaker 3: it was like man kills wife and kids and this
Speaker 3: is how you can tell in thirty minutes in the
Speaker 3: interaction with.
Speaker 2: The police that he was guilty. What was it? Okay,
Speaker 2: he what did he do?
Speaker 3: So the best friend was like, I haven't heard from
Speaker 3: her in several hours and she was supposed to like
Speaker 3: call me. And I was like, okay, well, that happens
Speaker 3: to me and my friend all the time. I always
Speaker 3: tell Marie, h call me when you get home. The
Speaker 3: bitch never does, you know, and.
Speaker 2: I and then I could be dead sleepy.
Speaker 3: But this woman is like freaking out. She's knocking on
Speaker 3: the door. She's like, you know, her car is still
Speaker 3: in the driveway. So she's like, what what's up with
Speaker 3: my friend? So she calls the cops. The cops come,
Speaker 3: they're banging.
Speaker 2: On the door. She she's like she wasn't feeling well.
Speaker 3: I think she's diabetic too, so you know, she's really
Speaker 3: alarming the people. And then the next door neighbor has
Speaker 3: a camera, so they're like, let's check the camera to
Speaker 3: see if she left or she came in or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then they call the husband and the husband's like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm on my way, and so he keeps saying that
Speaker 3: he's five minutes away, but this man doesn't show up
Speaker 3: until like forty five minutes to an hour, right, and
Speaker 3: so he comes he looks suspicious. He instead of like
Speaker 3: like walking them into the house, he goes into the
Speaker 3: house first by himself, so he's probably getting rid of
Speaker 3: something or moving something around before they come in.
Speaker 2: He's looking for blood splatter.
Speaker 3: He's like, right, right, right. So the cops come in
Speaker 3: and the best friend is more helpful than the husband.
Speaker 3: They're like, do you think she could be here? He's like, nah,
Speaker 3: I don't really think. So it's like, sir, where is
Speaker 3: your wife and two kids? Are you not concerned?
Speaker 2: Do you not care? And then the cop is like,
Speaker 2: so were you guys having problems?
Speaker 3: And once they ask you that whoop, they think you're
Speaker 3: guilty as fuck?
Speaker 2: Wait is this this? This is the documentary that's on Netflix? No, no, no.
Speaker 3: This is just like on YouTube. It's like people who
Speaker 3: show signs that they're guilty.
Speaker 5: It's all that's the worst.
Speaker 8: When you watch these friends, it's like, why don't you
Speaker 8: just let get a divorce? It's so fucked up, Like
Speaker 8: are they that angry narcissist where they always wanting to kill?
Speaker 8: Like I just don't understand why you can't just separate.
Speaker 8: What are you doing right?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're looking at you, Scott Peterson.
Speaker 5: Is he still alive? Well, he's trying. No, he's trying
Speaker 5: to appeal. He does. He won't admit it, he just won't.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. But there is a series about a
Speaker 2: guy who and it's like a you know, like a
Speaker 2: documentary docuseries about this guy who like had like a
Speaker 2: side chick or like a new girlfriend, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta get my wife out of the picture. And
Speaker 2: it's like you could just leave, Yeah, pack pack your
Speaker 2: Nike bag and go.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what's scary. It's like, what you fall
Speaker 8: in love with this person and then they fucking kill
Speaker 8: It's just like it's so scary to me.
Speaker 3: But also it's a it's a life policy for me
Speaker 3: that that really like throws me off.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh the life the life insurance.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh they took out Oh now, it's like
Speaker 3: at a it's like at two million dollars all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, this sir did it. He did it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So how does life insurance work?
Speaker 4: I'm paying in, but I'm not I don't have to
Speaker 4: put a million dollars in, but I'm worth a million dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah if I die.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's usually I think for like, uh, to make
Speaker 8: sure your family is taken care of. So if you're
Speaker 8: like a breadwinner of the family or a doctor, you
Speaker 8: make all this money and then God forbid something happens
Speaker 8: to you, because of life insurance, your family will be
Speaker 8: set up.
Speaker 2: Okay, But now I heard a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, that j Lo insured her butt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So now what happens she falls off her button, she
Speaker 2: gets like a scratch on it, she gets a million dollars?
Speaker 2: Like what does that?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: People celebs like to like do that with their legs
Speaker 8: and body parts, and I have no idea how that works.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Andrew, any insight on how.
Speaker 6: I think that Taylor Swift ensured her legs? I remember
Speaker 6: exactly why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really no definition in the calves at all, and
Speaker 2: she's insurance. The legs are giving me asparagus.
Speaker 5: Okay, Taylor is in the news today.
Speaker 6: What did she do?
Speaker 8: You know how Scooter Braun bought the record label that
Speaker 8: had the rights to all of her music so last
Speaker 8: year or like within this year, who fucking knows time anymore.
Speaker 8: Scooter Braun is like Justin Bieber's manager in Ariana Grande's
Speaker 8: and he's a money thirsty lunatic, I think. And so
Speaker 8: he bought like this ate the record label that owned
Speaker 8: all of Taylor Swift's music didn't even give Taylor Swift
Speaker 8: the option to buy her music and sold it to
Speaker 8: Scooter Braun. And he owns everything. She can't do anything
Speaker 8: or get money for it ever again. And today he
Speaker 8: sold it to some firm for three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5: And so she has to re record all her.
Speaker 8: Music like she owns none of it anymore, okay, which
Speaker 8: is bullshit.
Speaker 2: What record label was she with that they didn't even
Speaker 2: give her the option to buy her right?
Speaker 8: It was called Big Machine something like she signed it
Speaker 8: when she was so young that and then she went
Speaker 8: to Universal and they fucking sam her.
Speaker 5: I think it's so long.
Speaker 2: The more I read about the industry, the sicker it
Speaker 2: feels to me.
Speaker 5: How do you write your songs.
Speaker 8: Or you know, write in quotes like sing on, perform, mom,
Speaker 8: play on the piano, and then you don't own it?
Speaker 4: Speaking of Justin Bieber, Yeah, did you hear his about
Speaker 4: what happened to his pastor the Hillsong the so he
Speaker 4: was all over the news, like because he got fired
Speaker 4: from Hillsong like a week.
Speaker 3: Whoa, how do you get the church man?
Speaker 2: How do you get fired from a cool church? Because
Speaker 2: he would you.
Speaker 4: Know, leather vests, tattoos, do rags in the pocket like
Speaker 4: cool church. The pastor apparently he cheated on his wife
Speaker 4: with some girl in like Williamsburg. Just some girl in Williams.
Speaker 2: Did she go to the church. At least they're in
Speaker 2: Domino Park hanging out anyway, So the church fired him.
Speaker 2: My wife, kids, head pastor of this church got fired
Speaker 2: for cheating on his way.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if you go to any other church, I mean
Speaker 3: the pastor is having sex with everybody, even in the choir,
Speaker 3: and he still has.
Speaker 6: His I don't know, yeah, I don't know if you
Speaker 6: call that sex per se, that seems a little bit.
Speaker 8: Well no, Joselle Bryant's husband, I don't know, you guys
Speaker 8: watch yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, Joselle Jaelle's husband.
Speaker 8: Husband, Jamal Bryant, he is, I guess a big time
Speaker 8: pastor and he Jaselle's dad on a hot mic was
Speaker 8: over her going he has six or seven baby mamas,
Speaker 8: like what is she.
Speaker 5: Doing with him? And it was caught.
Speaker 8: He's the civil rights leader, so it was all like
Speaker 8: a sad ending to his story on this.
Speaker 4: I think I saw the episode. He like got out
Speaker 4: to go to the bathroom and he was like, I'm
Speaker 4: done with this. He's six seven, five baby mamas. I
Speaker 4: gotta get out of here.
Speaker 2: But also I don't want to be with.
Speaker 4: A dude who has six or seven women who he's
Speaker 4: in pregnant, but even.
Speaker 8: Can with the guy who is two separate. I don't
Speaker 8: want any I don't I don't know kids too is
Speaker 8: a breaker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a de bigger for me too, sus
Speaker 4: I don't want to see your uglyest kids in my
Speaker 4: face when I come over.
Speaker 2: That's too much.
Speaker 3: That's too much baggage that talks like no, thank you,
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 5: And you know they're going to be mean to you
Speaker 5: for a long time.
Speaker 2: And you know they're gonna have a cell phone and
Speaker 2: they're gonna be ignoring you, and then when you ask
Speaker 2: them a question, they're gonna.
Speaker 5: Be like, you're not my real mind.
Speaker 2: And you could be like, well, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be your ugly you know, they're going to be blocking
Speaker 2: you on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 5: Did Bieber make any statements?
Speaker 4: No, but you know my I know somebody who goes
Speaker 4: to that church and I was with him yesterday and
Speaker 4: he's the one who told me that it was infidelity.
Speaker 8: So it's like Patricia O'Neill's joke, like women will be like, oh,
Speaker 8: maybe if it's George Clooney, I would cheat on my husband.
Speaker 8: And then men will see a woman buy a dumpster
Speaker 8: with a banana peel on her head, and they'll be like,
Speaker 8: I like the way that banana peel looks just he does.
Speaker 3: It the way you said that, Marie, You're like just
Speaker 3: some girl and Williamsburg.
Speaker 5: Risking it all for some girl.
Speaker 2: But can you imagine being that that famous? Because like
Speaker 2: he like people don't really know him, but enough people
Speaker 2: know him as justin Bieber's pastor or I don't know
Speaker 2: Lebron James is whoever, because he's like a celebrity pastor,
Speaker 2: but you're too visible anyway. He the way that he
Speaker 2: got caught is you know, he's old and he doesn't
Speaker 2: really know how technology works. And his wife, I guess,
Speaker 2: opened his laptop and the eye message was synced up
Speaker 2: and he was just talking to her via text.
Speaker 5: I've heard of that before.
Speaker 6: I caught.
Speaker 3: That's how I caught my ex cheating on me with
Speaker 3: some girl, with some girl who was in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: I was like, at least have the balls to get
Speaker 3: somebody in your own burrow. Sir, you're telling me you
Speaker 3: crossing a bridge to cheat on me.
Speaker 5: Pretty hot?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a tractor. That's that's what the Williamsburg
Speaker 2: girl said. It's pretty hot.
Speaker 8: He's got no the imassage thing that should be another one,
Speaker 8: like I know someone that on the computer. That's how
Speaker 8: they got caught, just like live watching the communications.
Speaker 5: That's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the iCloud. The iCloud don't lie. It'd
Speaker 3: be working over time, so right, and you can.
Speaker 2: Turn it off.
Speaker 4: You can fully unsync it so the messages on your
Speaker 4: phone are just on your phone, and the ones on.
Speaker 2: Your laptop are just on your laptop. But people, I
Speaker 2: had to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 8: I did also find what I wrote one more note
Speaker 8: about getting away with murder. Make sure the gun is
Speaker 8: not registered in your name, or like, make sure you
Speaker 8: haven't killed someone before and they have the bullets already,
Speaker 8: because then they can connect.
Speaker 5: You to everything.
Speaker 8: Don't use a gun that your mom has in a
Speaker 8: security deposit box, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean that might be the gun to use. My
Speaker 2: mom also doesn't have a security deposit box, So there's
Speaker 2: also that.
Speaker 3: Whatever you do, just purchase it with cash, you know,
Speaker 3: which is easy. Or get or get or get some
Speaker 3: loser who not loser.
Speaker 2: That's not nice, but just get someone who's.
Speaker 5: Like that's what they are. If they're murdering for you,
Speaker 5: they're a loser.
Speaker 8: We don't have to be nice to them.
Speaker 2: Also, I going to hire somebody. I'm an impath, so
Speaker 2: I feel for the.
Speaker 3: You feel for losers, for these losers who are just
Speaker 3: killing for other people.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna say. If you're going to hire
Speaker 2: somebody to murder somebody for you, don't just.
Speaker 4: Hire somebody that you don't know, Like your boy referred
Speaker 4: you to this person in a quiz Nos parking lot.
Speaker 2: That's how Tiger King got caught.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, yeah, I want to murder Carol
Speaker 4: Baskin And it was like, you don't know this man
Speaker 4: in this subway driveway.
Speaker 2: And you're mad.
Speaker 3: Said he didn't want any money, He just wanted two
Speaker 3: bags of meth. Yeah, that's you definitely don't want this
Speaker 3: person murdering for you.
Speaker 5: He's so mad.
Speaker 8: How mad do you think he was when he found
Speaker 8: out Carol was on Dancing with the Stars, Like she
Speaker 8: gets to be famous now it is?
Speaker 2: I bet, well, she has all her teeth, you know,
Speaker 2: like she looks presentable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's off her rocker, but she you know, she's
Speaker 3: she's prepped for TV's.
Speaker 2: I heard she just I heard she just came out
Speaker 2: as bisexual.
Speaker 3: She probably has bangs too, Carol, so she is Yeah,
Speaker 3: she probably has bangs now bisexual with Banks?
Speaker 2: Is she still Is she still on Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars or has she.
Speaker 5: Been voted off?
Speaker 8: I thought I was gonna watch this season when they
Speaker 8: announced the cast, I'm like, this is the year I
Speaker 8: get into it, and I didn't.
Speaker 6: Watch it all entire Banks posting and so sad.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like these people, not all of them,
Speaker 3: but some of these people was like, Wow, you had
Speaker 3: a promising career, what brought you to Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's what these shows are, even like a housewife.
Speaker 4: Show or any of these like reality TV shows, it's
Speaker 4: mainly for people who's.
Speaker 2: They you have to have time to wash. So right,
Speaker 2: people who are like truly like a list and booked
Speaker 2: and busy and doing things, then all have time to
Speaker 2: door reality TV.
Speaker 8: Well, there's no there's two different types of housewives. There's
Speaker 8: the ones like declining fame and they want to do it,
Speaker 8: but the other like the first crap, they were successful
Speaker 8: women on their own.
Speaker 5: Who then joined like they were.
Speaker 8: You know, Ramona, she's fucking annoying and terrible, but she
Speaker 8: was a successful businesswoman.
Speaker 3: I mean she still is. She's still in that Ramona
Speaker 3: wine and whatnot. And that's skin her skincare line, a
Speaker 3: skincare line.
Speaker 5: She's bad.
Speaker 8: But someone is posting one of the Bravo counts I
Speaker 8: follow is posting excerpts from her book and her childhood
Speaker 8: was really sad.
Speaker 2: What was that about?
Speaker 5: Well, the dad beat the shit out of all of them.
Speaker 8: But the mom when she was fourteen, confessed like I
Speaker 8: had dreams, I got into college, I was going to
Speaker 8: live and then I got pregnant with you, and.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 5: Don't do what I did, like get a job, don't
Speaker 5: depend on a man.
Speaker 8: And so of course she feels the guilt, like this
Speaker 8: man beat the ship out of all of them, and
Speaker 8: her and the mom pretty much is like the only
Speaker 8: reason I married him was because I was pregnant with you.
Speaker 2: Okay you if that is not a plan, be at
Speaker 2: right there with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because she's a terrible person.
Speaker 3: She is, and but it's like, at what at some
Speaker 3: point it's like, how old are you, Ramona sixty two?
Speaker 3: I mean you have time to you had time to
Speaker 3: fix up your personality better.
Speaker 2: I need to confess that I've I've never watched New
Speaker 2: York House One.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a g I love. I think it's one
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 8: I think it's my number one favorite necessary really.
Speaker 4: Yes, I do think I'm better than y'all because there
Speaker 4: are black women in New York and not a single
Speaker 4: black House One.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: That's why I've never watched the show.
Speaker 3: But as tally as fuck, if you want to see
Speaker 3: black women thriving, you go on Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see black women throw Atlanta is
Speaker 2: not thriving. Chateau Charae took seventeen years to love.
Speaker 3: She by Charae. She's she was relatable. Okay, She's like spring, summerfall, spring.
Speaker 3: It'll be available in the spring, the summer spring.
Speaker 2: I love her, and it.
Speaker 3: Was like I was like, yes, this that's how I
Speaker 3: feel when I'm doing myself taped. So like, when will
Speaker 3: you be sending this in you know, spring, summerfall, It's coming.
Speaker 2: Probably like early January.
Speaker 5: It's like, what, No, I like Eva. I don't think
Speaker 5: that's a popular opinion, but I liked her.
Speaker 2: She could go.
Speaker 8: She was like she was pregnant dancing on the exercise
Speaker 8: ball while eat Like I.
Speaker 5: Just like that.
Speaker 2: I like Eva. I liked her on Top Model.
Speaker 8: Oh, I'll tell My favorite Eva moment on Top Model
Speaker 8: was remember there was a blind girl?
Speaker 5: Did we talk?
Speaker 8: I feel like we've talked about this. There was a
Speaker 8: girl that was blind and she was like this sucks
Speaker 8: somewhere in these heels, imlind, I'm blind in the dark.
Speaker 8: I can't see. And then Eva's confessional moment was like okay,
Speaker 8: and my shoes are too small. We all have problems.
Speaker 8: Suck it up, and I'm like, she's blind.
Speaker 2: Especially on the show, she know what she signed up for.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, they was there was a blind girl
Speaker 2: on the Eva yea, she.
Speaker 5: Had the ice eyes.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, she had a disease where she was
Speaker 8: going to get more and more blind and then eventually
Speaker 8: be full blind. We should see if she's blind now.
Speaker 8: But she was blind in the dark, and she said
Speaker 8: she was the glitter from the heather At show to
Speaker 8: guide her because there was glitter on the ground.
Speaker 2: I mean, siss, if you don't have good eyes, I
Speaker 2: don't know if walking her runway, you don't need to
Speaker 2: be you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Not just she had sing like she was like doing
Speaker 8: it for her single mom. But there there's going to
Speaker 8: be a black housewife on the New York cast this year.
Speaker 8: But I think I think they're all going to say
Speaker 8: something fucked up to her.
Speaker 5: I'm nervous for her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Ramona, all of them, they're all problematic, and
Speaker 3: we saw I mean one of them.
Speaker 2: A few of them voted for Trump. I'm sure, Oh yes, admittedly, yeah.
Speaker 6: Son, Well didn't they They just started a new Real
Speaker 6: Housewives of.
Speaker 2: City all.
Speaker 6: And they were talking.
Speaker 5: So good, so good.
Speaker 2: I watch it's the kookiest I will say it's Wendy.
Speaker 6: Wendy was talking about there's a woman on it that
Speaker 6: like she's like, everyone thinks that I'm black. Everyone thinks
Speaker 6: that I'm black, but I'm not.
Speaker 8: That is that she's No, she's tagged along at Hawaiian.
Speaker 8: But her point was because everyone's so ignorant there. She's like,
Speaker 8: they just call me black.
Speaker 3: But it's like the way she says it, it's like, well, sis,
Speaker 3: are you proud of their ignorance?
Speaker 2: Like what are you promoting it? I don't know, But
Speaker 2: is there a black girl on the Yes, there's yeah Mary.
Speaker 5: And she's married to her step grandfather.
Speaker 2: I heard about her. She's married to her step grandfather.
Speaker 4: Now, imagine having your grandma married to a man and
Speaker 4: then she's dying and she says.
Speaker 2: Why not go I want you to marry one of
Speaker 2: my girls, and then you do. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: she's my word.
Speaker 4: No, I don't want. I don't want my grandma's sloppy seconds.
Speaker 5: That's dusty. It's fucked up.
Speaker 8: And she like she's like, well, we've been together twenty
Speaker 8: two years, and it's like it's.
Speaker 5: Still fucked up. He knew you when you were a kid.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm it's they've been together for twenty two years. How
Speaker 2: long was he with her grandma?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like a murder in that, like maybe he
Speaker 3: killed her to be with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because she's the leader of the Episcopalian church.
Speaker 3: Now I think we should look into this.
Speaker 2: This death, pastor Mary, you that's nasty.
Speaker 4: How much money would someone have to pay you for
Speaker 4: you to sleep with your step granda.
Speaker 8: I've never had grandparents. They were all too old and died,
Speaker 8: So I'm off the hook.
Speaker 2: So let's say let's say a seventy year old that
Speaker 2: was married to like maybe an uncle, an oldest uncle.
Speaker 8: Step Now, Russians are not or I don't want to
Speaker 8: be with anyone Russian.
Speaker 2: Oh, but maybe you're aunt. I'm sorry, I didn't forgot
Speaker 2: where I was talking to you.
Speaker 5: Sidney looks over it.
Speaker 2: No, not Sidney. How much money was gonna have tore
Speaker 2: ppare you for you to sleep with your step aunt?
Speaker 2: Your step on is not really, it's not related to you.
Speaker 2: It's not related to But she's a cool seventy she's
Speaker 2: seventy years old.
Speaker 3: I mean, what she wants me to put the strap
Speaker 3: on on? Like, what exactly does she want from me?
Speaker 3: What exactly does her heart desire? If she want me
Speaker 3: to just hang out and like play some bad.
Speaker 5: You have to eat her pussy.
Speaker 4: You have to eat seventy year old sell by that's
Speaker 4: not happening.
Speaker 3: When I tell you I do it now and I
Speaker 3: do enjoy it, I still am like, ooh, I don't
Speaker 3: really feel like doing this right now. So I couldn't
Speaker 3: have been feeling like doing that to a seventy year
Speaker 3: old no offense.
Speaker 2: Yes, but when you went on the flip side, when
Speaker 2: you meet somebody that enjoys doing it to you, yoah
Speaker 2: god bless.
Speaker 3: I'm like, is is this your career? Your career is
Speaker 3: eating pussy beautiful?
Speaker 2: You should get promoted. You're You're like, why are you
Speaker 2: so good?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Because I would never eat a boy.
Speaker 2: But oh no, a boy.
Speaker 10: But well, wow, Mura, that was like, no, I mean
Speaker 10: I'm going to say that I would never, but I
Speaker 10: have Wow, we love.
Speaker 4: This twenty twenty Marie. It just it just took a
Speaker 4: pandemic to really open her up. Yeah yeah, for me
Speaker 4: to open my mouth. M Yeah, I mean I would
Speaker 4: not eat a boy, but you know, on a first date, yeah,
Speaker 4: second date, or even a ninth date. But I'm saying, like,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe if you're in a relationship with somebody
Speaker 4: and you know they just hopped out the.
Speaker 2: Shower, it's different. It's definite, but dudes in general, especially,
Speaker 2: they don't want to clean their houses, let alone their
Speaker 2: booty home. So it's also I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that from personal experience, women know
Speaker 3: how to clean their ass and don't trust.
Speaker 5: Men mcgay man, you can trust gaymen.
Speaker 8: That's what That's why I said, I said straight, Yeah,
Speaker 8: you're right, you guys are I feel like baby wiping,
Speaker 8: But dang.
Speaker 3: No, I've heard from some of my gay men that
Speaker 3: like some of them the sloppy and messy, and they
Speaker 3: don't have a clean and they'll eat, they'll eat reckless
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: Try to have sex after.
Speaker 5: Have you ever ever gotten like a poop particle on
Speaker 5: your tongue? Who Andrew for me?
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, we won't eat nats on here,
Speaker 3: but we're talking to you, sir.
Speaker 6: No, I'm almost like ninety five percent. Uh, usually like
Speaker 6: the one receiving it, and so I haven't gotten any.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he's a pillow prince love it. Yes, thank you,
Speaker 2: Andrew does a double cleanse Okay.
Speaker 6: But I will tell you when when you do do
Speaker 6: it to someone else, there's something completely like disarming about
Speaker 6: like doing that to someone you know, like it's like
Speaker 6: it's like a real like big muscular guy that is like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I want you to like eat me out. That is
Speaker 6: so it's like, wow, I'm fully in charge now.
Speaker 3: So and it's like, well, I need you to co
Speaker 3: sign something. That's the time you ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew, do you have any tips for how to
Speaker 4: properly eat booty? No?
Speaker 6: Because I'm only doing five percent of the time.
Speaker 2: I can know. I'm saying, like, you know, tips for like.
Speaker 6: Maybe oh for like like oh I do like a
Speaker 6: face sitting situation. And you know, I when when the
Speaker 6: tongue is in there, it makes a world of difference.
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of people that just completely like
Speaker 6: circle and they're not actually.
Speaker 2: Stop being a punk.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think a lot of I think a
Speaker 6: lot of guys are afraid to go up up there
Speaker 6: for obvious reasons. But you know the guys that are
Speaker 6: are willing to be courageous. It really good.
Speaker 3: And we're now trying to do no rim and ship.
Speaker 3: I want you to Yeah.
Speaker 6: The homeless guy. The homeless guy did go and I
Speaker 6: will tell you.
Speaker 2: That he hadn't eaten in several hours. He was famished.
Speaker 6: God, that was spank material for months. I will tell
Speaker 6: you that was.
Speaker 4: Very very good advertizer and entreat you right on the
Speaker 4: literally on this.
Speaker 6: At three am. And then he just looked at me
Speaker 6: and then we just went to the races.
Speaker 2: Free Corona, Corona, so Sydney. And I like to call
Speaker 2: this guy a homeless man. That he.
Speaker 6: I mean, he had a backpack on. He just got
Speaker 6: off the he just got off the bottom. We had
Speaker 6: sex right behind him on the count homeless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing wrong.
Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4: Well, you said the homeless guy knew how to eat
Speaker 4: your ass, and I said he had he missed mad meals.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know this.
Speaker 2: It's not allowed to eat at the port authorities.
Speaker 3: You don't want to have any saying she doesn't do
Speaker 3: jokes about homeless people.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 5: What no, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is there something that you prepared that you wanted to
Speaker 4: leave us. Yeah, because I know that you wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about like Virgo things.
Speaker 5: Well I can connect.
Speaker 8: There's a famous Virgo who was on Law and Order SVU,
Speaker 8: which is ludicrous, which is exciting, but that's it.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I'm a libra virgo.
Speaker 5: Cuss, that's fun.
Speaker 3: What what's so fun about a Libra virgo whatever.
Speaker 5: I have no idea. Okay, I liked it.
Speaker 2: What did you prepare for virgos only?
Speaker 5: Virgo I only? But I'll show you how many not
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 2: I can you give us like three quick r We're.
Speaker 5: Very very good friends.
Speaker 8: We're loyal, and we like to serve and do things
Speaker 8: for others, and we we like that.
Speaker 5: We like to do things be useful.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's not.
Speaker 5: We are very judgmental. I believe that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're very we can find something wrong with anything,
Speaker 8: and ourselves very critical and focus on details of people.
Speaker 5: And we're honest. And that's the thing, like if you ask.
Speaker 8: I remember I got in trouble once because someone was like,
Speaker 8: are my nails not perfect? And I was like right
Speaker 8: before their way and I was like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 8: you wanted them more pink. And then all the other
Speaker 8: girls got mad at me. They're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 8: Her nails look great? I'm like, they do look great,
Speaker 8: but they are not what she wanted and she asked me.
Speaker 8: But yeah, so like honest, for sure, loyal.
Speaker 5: Let's see.
Speaker 8: The one thing I don't. We're clean, but I'm not clean.
Speaker 8: I'm really messy and I'm not organized at all.
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, but I think the thing about the
Speaker 4: signs that people forget is like, not everybody is going
Speaker 4: to be exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the closest you gotta have You got to have
Speaker 3: your birth chart. You gotta have what time you were
Speaker 3: born for it to be like specifically for you.
Speaker 8: We're also on Earth's sign, so we don't like to
Speaker 8: get rid of anything, like we like memories, keeping stuff orders, yeah,
Speaker 8: or like oh maybe this, I can give this to
Speaker 8: someone or who wants that. Like, we don't like to
Speaker 8: waste stuff because we're for the Earth, and then we
Speaker 8: have much worry and anxiety, m overthinking, overthinking too much.
Speaker 2: I hate wasting food. I hate wasting food, but I
Speaker 2: hate wasting things like I'm not. I got rid of
Speaker 2: a bunch of clothes recently, and I still have more
Speaker 2: stuff to get rid of. But I don't.
Speaker 4: Are y'all throwing clothes in the garbage. No, nobody does that, right.
Speaker 4: You will give them to somebody, or you like bring
Speaker 4: them to your mom's house, and you're like.
Speaker 8: Son, well, that's why New York is great, because if
Speaker 8: you leave stuff outside, people usually take it. I loved
Speaker 8: getting rid of stuff in New York.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: One time I got rid of a suitcase and some
Speaker 8: guy was taking myself out and he's like, I work
Speaker 8: at a shelter, and I'm like great, And then I
Speaker 8: just kept bringing.
Speaker 5: Him things out and that was nice. That's I mean.
Speaker 3: I like New York so well, you know, Lisa, if
Speaker 3: you ever want to get rid of that second butthole
Speaker 3: on over to New York.
Speaker 8: Oh, and we like we like crafts, we're artistic, and
Speaker 8: we like language and talking and stuff.
Speaker 5: But you know, I like to make collages, which is nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you gonna do twenty twenty one Vision four? No?
Speaker 5: No goal?
Speaker 3: No, we shall never no more.
Speaker 2: No, no more lists, no more goals, not for the
Speaker 2: next year. We can't do it.
Speaker 5: I'm only making Simpsons collages right now. That's what I'm finus.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: I love your thinking.
Speaker 5: It's really like a passion and I'm glad people like them.
Speaker 5: But so I like making those.
Speaker 3: If you want to send me a collage for U Kwanza,
Speaker 3: that'd be amazing.
Speaker 8: Wait, did you guys see Robin Shawl's viral video of
Speaker 8: her goal she read her goals from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one video.
Speaker 3: I was worried I was like, should I message her
Speaker 3: and say, hey girl, how you doing well?
Speaker 5: No, she went viral. She's thrilled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that only that only makes you feel good
Speaker 3: for like a day or two.
Speaker 4: Nah, you go viral, you feel good as long as
Speaker 4: the comments keep wroing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and she makes twenty videos. I think hopefully people
Speaker 8: will stick with her and I won't just be one success.
Speaker 8: But she's she was cute. She said that she used
Speaker 8: to make the videos with her grand It's interesting that
Speaker 8: the one about her grandma got her viral and a
Speaker 8: goal that she didn't read, but she did show the
Speaker 8: list was get ten thousand followers, and so from this
Speaker 8: video air it was exciting.
Speaker 5: I'm looking.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for her page.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I guess I got to make a list.
Speaker 8: Now, even where I'm going to live. Like I don't
Speaker 8: have a home anymore. It's like there's no point of
Speaker 8: making goals.
Speaker 2: Oh, because you left your place in them.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just hopping around stuff.
Speaker 2: That's the best way to live.
Speaker 5: No, I have.
Speaker 8: Beautiful art, I want a home. I can't wait to
Speaker 8: have a permanent residence. And I've had bad luck, like
Speaker 8: I had my carbon monoxide apartment, Like I just had
Speaker 8: kind of a string of like, I can't wait for stability.
Speaker 8: I can't wait to put all my coffee table books out.
Speaker 3: So we can have that Halloween party again.
Speaker 8: I think about it a lot. I think about it
Speaker 8: a lot. It was a great party.
Speaker 4: That's probably the best Halloween party that I've hardest, hardest.
Speaker 2: I laughed such a long time.
Speaker 8: And the DJ, I feel like he fucking got it,
Speaker 8: like he understood. I was like, play me a few
Speaker 8: cheesy songs that I would like, but then keep everyone happy.
Speaker 5: And I think he did a great job, DJ Serene.
Speaker 2: I love a good DJ that knows what they're doing. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then when Clark was like, give it up for
Speaker 5: the DJ, I'm like, that's nice. That's a cool moment.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have thought to do that.
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know what I did think, thank you
Speaker 3: Liza for coming back. And I'm like, out doing yourself.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the longest episode we've ever done.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, no, it's nice. That's our sugar Daddy expert,
Speaker 2: Like a week ago was longer than this.
Speaker 5: Who was it? Sugar Daddy?
Speaker 2: I think, oh, sis, you have to listen to the episode. Well,
Speaker 2: she was at Bougie.
Speaker 6: Expert and.
Speaker 2: She had a contract on a napkin with a man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he gave her.
Speaker 2: A couple thousand dollars a month, not a couple thousand,
Speaker 2: Wasn't it?
Speaker 8: Like, there's definitely a kink where it's they don't even
Speaker 8: want sex, they just want to give you money to
Speaker 8: spend it.
Speaker 2: Where are they?
Speaker 5: I bet you can find them.
Speaker 8: You know there's a kink They not on Tinder soon, No,
Speaker 8: but you got I feel like you guys can do it.
Speaker 3: We'll put that down on the list for us.
Speaker 5: Put that down.
Speaker 8: Because I watched the porn set of like kink dot
Speaker 8: com does a how to section and like how to
Speaker 8: do a bunch of stuff for lessons kink University they
Speaker 8: call it. And one of them is financial domination and
Speaker 8: it's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: I mean, has goals and everything people are and the
Speaker 2: people who are who are into financial domination, those people
Speaker 2: are not the people that you want eating your booty. No,
Speaker 2: you don't have to touch, you don't want to have sexist.
Speaker 2: He just wants to give you money.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like the only people that I'm meeting
Speaker 4: are people who are like, oh, I so want to
Speaker 4: sex with you.
Speaker 2: And I have no money. Well it's your fat Marie.
Speaker 2: Why do you have abs? And why you look so good?
Speaker 2: What they got to do with what.
Speaker 5: They got to do?
Speaker 2: What you're giving me money?
Speaker 4: If anything, you should only be sending me money, and
Speaker 4: then you should be like, may I, may I dine
Speaker 4: with you this evening?
Speaker 2: May I? But no, anyway? Whatever? Is there anything that
Speaker 2: we missed on this fabulous epsod?
Speaker 8: No, but I loved the knitting factory photos. I love
Speaker 8: chatting with you guys all the lights and can't wait
Speaker 8: to be there soon.
Speaker 3: I know I would love to give you a hug.
Speaker 3: I definitely missed you. And you know things will go
Speaker 3: back to It won't go back to normal, but.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: We'll be in a better place next year. That's all
Speaker 2: I know. That's on the list. Be in a better place.
Speaker 5: That's a great goal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm glad that you have all this information
Speaker 3: that you know we're not going to murder and nobody
Speaker 3: else on this I would never.
Speaker 5: I don't think, I I that's not in me.
Speaker 4: I know that I'm too lazy to bout her crime
Speaker 4: crimes of passion are you know it's different.
Speaker 8: I get caught, I got caught cheating on my eighth
Speaker 8: grade constitution test. I've been arrested three times, gone to jail.
Speaker 8: I mean I am not I'm not a sleuth.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 8: I would get caught in a second. I get caught
Speaker 8: doing everything. I smoked weed one time my parents found
Speaker 8: my bowl, and to be a bad I was like,
Speaker 8: I've been smoking a long time, but it was the
Speaker 8: first time and they caught me.
Speaker 2: I'm not secret of You've been arrested three times and
Speaker 2: it's the first time we're hearing about it.
Speaker 5: No, I have that this is not happening. All about it.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that I will find that on go
Speaker 2: to that length.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Lie's I want you to promote all
Speaker 3: this stuff you have going up so all the people
Speaker 3: can follow you.
Speaker 2: Please follow Lisa.
Speaker 3: She's very, very fun and her stories are very personal.
Speaker 3: You might even catch a tit because she loves a
Speaker 3: low cut something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't like clothing in the home I put on. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 8: I don't like it. Why would you were closing the house?
Speaker 2: I hate closing the house. I don't I think it's
Speaker 2: I want that way.
Speaker 8: But I did see a meme that was like, if
Speaker 8: you're not wearing pants this and that, you can't turn
Speaker 8: up the heat.
Speaker 5: No, I don't want to wear clothes. I need to
Speaker 5: turn up.
Speaker 2: The heat well in the winter time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm just couch starting just upping everyone's heat.
Speaker 8: If you want to see Simpson's collages, I'm at Glitter
Speaker 8: Cheese and then if you like at Lona Restview. I
Speaker 8: have a podcast with Clara Kara Klink, another Virgo, very
Speaker 8: organized Virgo. So many spreadsheets, so many like I have
Speaker 8: so many Google calendar invites from her, and it's called
Speaker 8: That's Messed Up an SVU podcast. That's a nice tea quote.
Speaker 5: I love that, love it.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much for coming back.
Speaker 3: Thank you, and also Lisa, please remind Marie how funny
Speaker 3: she is.
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, are we going to stop this
Speaker 8: and talk? Or am I leaving right away because I'm
Speaker 8: curious what you're taping and stuff?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 11: We should all right anyway, thanks ray Can described, Yes, lad, I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't running into it was.
Speaker 1: Extremely I take it.
Speaker 12: So so there was no where to go.
Speaker 2: Somehow, the water on the tables with.
Speaker 1: Turn never knew my hand to listen to the good.
Speaker 1: From my head and my shoes. Now where I'm going
Speaker 1: and I know what to do.
Speaker 12: I'm turning up my part of you. I'm gotta do attitude.
Speaker 12: I'm in control.
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Speaker 1: I gotta do at.
Speaker 12: I'm bury no dress, I do ide have.
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Speaker 6: It's my.
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Speaker 1: P turn never know my hand to listen to that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go from my head and my shoes, no
Speaker 1: how I'm going, and I don't want to do. I'm
Speaker 1: tie it up my horn a few.
Speaker 12: I'm gotta do aitudem in control.
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Speaker 1: Do you think.
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Speaker 3: You never know my hand to listen to.
Speaker 12: I'm feeling gone from the heads of my shoes, know
Speaker 12: where I'm going, and I know what to do. I'll
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