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Speaker 1: James and Bix Stairs from the Streets. Hello, we we
Speaker 1: like to welcome every one to another episode of the
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcast. And you know today I don't have
Speaker 1: my homeboys with me, but that's all good because I
Speaker 1: am in here with a very very special guests. One
Speaker 1: of the most incredible producers of this um these last
Speaker 1: you know, this decade pretty much as ran the two thousands.
Speaker 1: You know, Sean Gary A K. The pen who produced
Speaker 1: his for such iconic artists such Nicki Minajs, the Pussycat Dolls.
Speaker 1: Us you're Beyonce sing others. Man, how are you doing today? Brother?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. Know what's happening to man? Oh Man,
Speaker 1: I can't call it bro. You know, the first question
Speaker 1: I gotta ask, man, is you know I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: off with the basics. Man, how did you get into music? Man?
Speaker 1: Because I really feel like music chooses people and we
Speaker 1: got way too many people, you know nowadays chasing the thing.
Speaker 1: But I think music really chooses those who are supposed
Speaker 1: to come in. You know. Yeah, I mean no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you man. I'm I'm a product
Speaker 1: of music. Man. You know what I'm saying, Like I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, music been in my blood man, since I
Speaker 1: was a child. You know, my story is crazy as hell.
Speaker 1: You know, like I was one of those kids man
Speaker 1: that just was annointed. I feel like I'm annointed music.
Speaker 1: Um My mom was a real one. She was from
Speaker 1: you know, the struggle. My mom's from Perry Holmes, Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, um My mama, Grady baby.
Speaker 1: I'm a Grady baby. You know I'm from Camelton Road.
Speaker 1: Um My mom got had thirteen brothers and sisters. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um My mom was in an orphanage.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, and then my my
Speaker 1: mom and my dad. You know what I'm saying, they
Speaker 1: married on Um they met on for McPherson, which is
Speaker 1: the it's the property that Tyler Perry bought. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, so my military back then, I
Speaker 1: end up moving. My mom was raped and left for
Speaker 1: dead when I was like four years old. Struggle, bro
Speaker 1: was like crazy as hell, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just as a young man growing up, like being in
Speaker 1: the hood. You know what I'm saying, like loving, loving
Speaker 1: his mama and having a brother. And you know, we
Speaker 1: we you know, we went through the struggle, man, but
Speaker 1: we made it out. You know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 1: mom and my dad. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: moved to year when I was like six, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I end up signing my first record deal
Speaker 1: when I was fourteen years old. I was on stage
Speaker 1: since I was twelve and so blood. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: an athlete too, you know what I'm saying. So I've
Speaker 1: been like so, I mean it's the combination of like
Speaker 1: having a real lass, having real lass parents, um, having
Speaker 1: structure in the house. My parents didn't give a funk
Speaker 1: about like can you know, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can curse, but but but my parents didn't really give
Speaker 1: a funk about like whenever all my other friends was
Speaker 1: doing or whateverybody was doing outside. It was just my
Speaker 1: parents were more concerned about me just doing the right
Speaker 1: fucking thing and like being a stand up guy and
Speaker 1: being a real person and like, um, and so man,
Speaker 1: I found myself you know, having Um, I was just
Speaker 1: really blessed, you know, to be honest with you, like
Speaker 1: I probably I wasn't looking at life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, reference to my monetary values and things and
Speaker 1: ship that I was, you know what I'm saying, gaining
Speaker 1: from that perspective. I was looking at my experiences just
Speaker 1: like I had some health fought experiences, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like moving to your Europe and six years old,
Speaker 1: and like you know, like saying, like why the funk
Speaker 1: am I in Europe? Like I'm sucking my in Germany?
Speaker 1: Like what does this mean? Yeah? Man? And so like
Speaker 1: you know, that's why I'm so hands on with my kids,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my my, my, my
Speaker 1: life man, was very um, it was very serious. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As far as like I was
Speaker 1: one of them kids, it took everything serious, bro, Like
Speaker 1: I I didn't take ship for a joke, you know.
Speaker 1: I my mama didn't played the radio, and I ain't
Speaker 1: played the radio. You know what I'm saying. She taught
Speaker 1: me that like life was real and like you know,
Speaker 1: your decisions and every uh, every decision that you make
Speaker 1: in life. You know what I'm saying, it's going to
Speaker 1: determine your outcome, right and and then and then there's
Speaker 1: also added on top of that, what God's perspective of
Speaker 1: your outcome it's gonna be. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is so it's it's a whole bunch of other things
Speaker 1: going on in your life that's beyond you. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you can only control what you can control.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like adding adding what your
Speaker 1: decisions are can also affect you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so I had the opportunity to go to Europe
Speaker 1: and as six years old and grow up there man
Speaker 1: and learn different languages, man, and travel the world man
Speaker 1: and see different people families like see you know, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to like I got a chance to
Speaker 1: see life outside of my hood, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: at a really young to the point where I can
Speaker 1: understand it, Like you know, people in my hood was
Speaker 1: was was struggling with certain things that other people in
Speaker 1: their HUDs wasn't struggling with. You felt me like, your
Speaker 1: hood is where you're from, you know. And some people
Speaker 1: always sort of like, you know, title the hood as
Speaker 1: like the struggle, but really your hood is where you're from,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And like and like I
Speaker 1: always look at I feel like life is what you
Speaker 1: make it, Like life is how you see it. And
Speaker 1: so I was just a kid man who kind of
Speaker 1: saw the lights of the world as an opportunity, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I just saw the world
Speaker 1: as an opportunity. Man. I saw like, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I had to go rob or still or kill
Speaker 1: or hurt nobody to mothercking be successful, or to be creative,
Speaker 1: or to be amazing, or to be immaculate, or to
Speaker 1: be strong or to be you know, in strength, or
Speaker 1: to be with God. I ain't see none of that
Speaker 1: ship necessary for me to do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, All of those things that I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: I felt like I can be that without heard the people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And like, honestly, man, I's
Speaker 1: so happy with my I'm happy with my life because
Speaker 1: my life is a testament that helping people is. You
Speaker 1: could be as successful, You could be more successful than
Speaker 1: anybody you can ever imagine, because my music is gonna
Speaker 1: lift forever, you know what I'm saying, Like every day,
Speaker 1: every day in the world, you're gonna hear one of
Speaker 1: my songs. And my songs ain't just me singing my song,
Speaker 1: is me passing on to other people. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's strengthening their life, that's taking care of
Speaker 1: their just taking care of their families. But at the
Speaker 1: same time they can they're touring off those songs, Like
Speaker 1: those songs are playing in different um countries, those songs
Speaker 1: playing on it. So it's like it's like that's a gift,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, like, so people are
Speaker 1: like touring off those records. Some people are excited off
Speaker 1: those records. Some people are changing their lives off those records.
Speaker 1: Some people it's like getting a house that those records.
Speaker 1: Some people just having fun off those records, like all
Speaker 1: of that ship is just like a beautiful thing to me. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, that's my gift, and I feel more, Um,
Speaker 1: I feel more excited about that than anything, Like I
Speaker 1: can't I can't be more happier and more pleased to
Speaker 1: just know that I have a gift that I can
Speaker 1: get to the world and I can continue to give
Speaker 1: it over and over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and people appreciate it and respect it, and then sometimes
Speaker 1: they don't even be noticed it came for me, but
Speaker 1: then they find out. But like, damn, if people don't
Speaker 1: even knowing, they be enjoying your your work, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm just thankful for that. It's
Speaker 1: definitely you know what, I've always told people this and
Speaker 1: some people get it, but some people look at me
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy. Music is a very spiritual thing. It
Speaker 1: gets you in different moods, like you know, like, um,
Speaker 1: I got a son who plays college football. You know,
Speaker 1: he plays for USC and you know, I'm just listening
Speaker 1: to some of the music he us to listen to
Speaker 1: in high school. You know, they would play Chief Keith
Speaker 1: before every game and they would just going there and
Speaker 1: they would put them in a certain zone, the same thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like with on one of the records you did,
Speaker 1: Yeah music, our time music is almost like a time cap.
Speaker 1: So like certain songs take me back to where I
Speaker 1: was at that moment. Like whenever I hear the Year record,
Speaker 1: I can remember exactly what I was doing when I
Speaker 1: first heard that record, and I knew. I said, man,
Speaker 1: that's a serious record right there, and it was like,
Speaker 1: but when I hear that song, it takes me back
Speaker 1: to that experience, whatever experience I was having that day,
Speaker 1: it takes me back to it. Yeah, you know, which
Speaker 1: brings me to this man, when did you realize you
Speaker 1: were special? Because you know, some people have gifts, right,
Speaker 1: and it may take them a while the polishing or whatever,
Speaker 1: or to wait for that proper opportunity to introduce theirselves.
Speaker 1: When did you know for a d certain in your
Speaker 1: head like man, I'm the coldest motherfucker out here. Can't
Speaker 1: no party funk with me on the pin? When when
Speaker 1: was that moment with records that come with hey, you
Speaker 1: know what man, like no, I'm gonna keep it all
Speaker 1: the way reund with you. I knew where yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: because because yeah, it was the record that all of
Speaker 1: these people, like these people man was treating me fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna be real like like
Speaker 1: they were, they were, they was fucking treating me. I'd
Speaker 1: have been through a lot of ship, man, I've been
Speaker 1: through a lot of ship. Let's talk about it. Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a real like I'm a real nigger, bro.
Speaker 1: But day niggas took them do ship. Bro. It's like,
Speaker 1: fucker's took me through ship, bro. So it's like ship
Speaker 1: ship is. It's rewarding, you know what I'm saying, Ship
Speaker 1: rewarding because like like it's almost like you know, something's
Speaker 1: like a nigga like like like leave you like like
Speaker 1: a nigga leave me for dead, like motheruckerl be like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you know, you go through ship
Speaker 1: in the hood, Like you go through ship, you'd be like, damn,
Speaker 1: I could have died that night. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I could have not made it or I could have
Speaker 1: Like I'm a I'm a person that takes ship personal.
Speaker 1: You know, I take ship personally. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like a Nike work extent, you have to do an
Speaker 1: extent you have to take stuff personal. You know one
Speaker 1: of my Yeah, I'm from the fucking struggle, man, like,
Speaker 1: and you know that's why I like I be telling people. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, don't play with people. Don't play with people, man,
Speaker 1: because you don't know motherfucker's be going through. You don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't know what people be going through. Man, It's like,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's be trying you and you like, you're working, You're
Speaker 1: working your ass off you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're giving your heart, putting your work in exactly. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like I'm just I'm I'm just mentioning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like because I know what
Speaker 1: the ship felt like. I feel like I know where
Speaker 1: they feel like because I put in my work. Bro. Motherfucker'
Speaker 1: was still It's like Nigga was playing Niggers playing with me, Bro,
Speaker 1: they's playing with me. But it was like I just
Speaker 1: you know, I just knew that, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: just had to keep working through it, had to keep
Speaker 1: working through it. And um, I just knew, man, I
Speaker 1: was out there on that field. I'm an athlete, Bro,
Speaker 1: I knew I was out there on that motherfuck field
Speaker 1: I was putting that work. You know, motherfucker's is just
Speaker 1: like playing with me. So I just knew I had to.
Speaker 1: I knew I had to. I had to speak to
Speaker 1: the consumer. You know what I'm saying that people who
Speaker 1: buy the tickets. You know, I had to just get
Speaker 1: to the to the people who who who who buy
Speaker 1: the tickets? And uh it was hard. You know sometimes
Speaker 1: it's hard, like I you know, I know how people
Speaker 1: feel like you know, and when you are here busting
Speaker 1: your asks, you're trying to you don't see you're trying
Speaker 1: to You're trying to win. Some thiggas be front and
Speaker 1: trying to be all hard and all that. Ship. Man,
Speaker 1: winning is a winning It is a desire winning. So
Speaker 1: I knew. Man, like everybody think like you know, like
Speaker 1: some thiggs think of cocky is fuck, don't think of cocky.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk like because I'm not cocky.
Speaker 1: I'm just confident because I then don't know my story,
Speaker 1: don't They just don't know what I had to go through.
Speaker 1: And much you real quick, bro, not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: I have a friend that's a songwriter, right, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say his name, he's a um. He's a rapper primarily,
Speaker 1: but he writes great songs, right you know, he's wrote
Speaker 1: with Timberland and all these guys. Right early on when
Speaker 1: he was trying to get on, he was a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old kid in Atlanta and he told me, when
Speaker 1: I told him I was gonna interviewing you, he said, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's one of the coolest brothers ever. I met him
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen in Atlanta. Told him what I
Speaker 1: did and he said, man, he bro told me, I
Speaker 1: like your spirit. He got my number, and he said
Speaker 1: it was the first thing he said. You gave him
Speaker 1: hope to continue pushing because he was getting treated pretty
Speaker 1: shitty at that time. You know, he was getting bounced
Speaker 1: around up at Interscope from label to label. You know,
Speaker 1: first they had him with on Will I Am, then
Speaker 1: he was with Timberland, then they sent him back to
Speaker 1: What I Am. So he said he was just really discouraged, man.
Speaker 1: And he said that you, he said, even though y'all
Speaker 1: never got to really work together, you never fronted on them.
Speaker 1: How important is that on you? Man? Were when you're
Speaker 1: dealing with an artist, man, you know, you get a
Speaker 1: lot of people that you know, everybody wants an opportunity, right,
Speaker 1: and you can't give opportunity to everybody just it's not
Speaker 1: enough time in the day. So when you have someone
Speaker 1: that approaches you looking for something, how did you deal
Speaker 1: with that? What did you tell them? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know why the fund this. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this ship is. Its sucking so
Speaker 1: emotional to you right now? What like, man o, don't no, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just having that. This's just so many biggest dad roads,
Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of niggas losing their life and
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like a lot of niggas
Speaker 1: man not to respect each other. Man. It's like niggas
Speaker 1: don't respect your heart work. Like I've never been a
Speaker 1: nigga looking for sympathy, but I always respecting the niggas grund, bro,
Speaker 1: I always respect that people working hard. You know. That's
Speaker 1: my parents always taught me. Man. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't never stole from a nigga, bro, I ain
Speaker 1: never I never robbed the nigga like that ain't never
Speaker 1: been my fucking vibe. But my theory was like I'm
Speaker 1: always hot work, motherfucker. So when I see they is
Speaker 1: put at working in that ship. Is it's real to
Speaker 1: be because Bro has so many fucking days, so many
Speaker 1: days that I just you know, I was feeling, Man,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't fucking winning, but I but I didn't.
Speaker 1: But I didn't give a funk about not winning. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I knew funk I'm not winning. I gave a funk
Speaker 1: about keep on working. I gave a funk about that.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, man, I don't know who that right
Speaker 1: there you're talking about. Man, I ain't never niggas K
Speaker 1: never say that, Bro, brob me Nick. He never say hey, like,
Speaker 1: oh we show respect the niggas. But that's what he's said, Bro,
Speaker 1: he said because at that time, you know, you're one
Speaker 1: of the biggest people in the game, Bro. You respected
Speaker 1: by everybody man, and you write great music. Man. Right
Speaker 1: time was classic music. So you know, for him bucking
Speaker 1: to you at that time, it was just the energy
Speaker 1: that she gave him. It's like he didn't necessarily need
Speaker 1: gonna record, just somebody saying I'm going to possibly give
Speaker 1: you an opportunity. You know, it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: emotional for me because true, I haven't seen nigga struggle man, Um,
Speaker 1: and I know the game you're like, I know, I
Speaker 1: know how people try to remix Ship and UM trying
Speaker 1: to play you. I've been that nigga. I've been that
Speaker 1: nigga Man. I just never Um, I never wanted to. UM.
Speaker 1: I learned early, like you know, uh, be focused, and
Speaker 1: I knew that it was never never never, Like you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm so disappointed, you know what the deal sean,
Speaker 1: and not to cut you off, bro, because I'm feeling
Speaker 1: you've got my spears after bout working in the music
Speaker 1: publishing industry, man, And it's like the game is just
Speaker 1: designed the fuck young people over, Bro. And it's like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's almost like this industry, Man,
Speaker 1: just from its inception, has been designed to kind of
Speaker 1: like funk. Aren't people in particularly over you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, you never really know who truly making
Speaker 1: these records sometimes because somebody else putting their stamp on it, Bro,
Speaker 1: or they're taking your ship and they twisting the words up.
Speaker 1: They got fifty million people writing on the song, but
Speaker 1: the majority of ship they're used in the shorts. Then
Speaker 1: you know the splits ain't never right. And that's just
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I saw coming from the industry. Man.
Speaker 1: That's why I always tried to not tried. I was
Speaker 1: always honest with people. And I've never stole, never from nobody. Man.
Speaker 1: I've never put my name on those ship that wasn't mine.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a funked up part of my language. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a funked up business. With that being said, when
Speaker 1: you come into this business, man, you better have God
Speaker 1: in your heart because the devil is running the playground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you know what you know. You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta know your you gotta know your you
Speaker 1: have to know your business. Um. Um, you have to
Speaker 1: know your normal. I'm so sorry, man, give me one
Speaker 1: second this We're gonna be able to get busy in
Speaker 1: one second. I'm just it's just had a session coming
Speaker 1: and I have to make sure everybody get in. Um.
Speaker 1: But I say, you know, yeah, I mean, it really
Speaker 1: is fucked up. But you know you can't. Um. It's
Speaker 1: like the streets. You know, the music businesses like the streets,
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit more intricate than the streets,
Speaker 1: because you know, a person can try to hate on
Speaker 1: you and try to silence you without killing you physically.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta know how to
Speaker 1: respect your abilities to the point and perfect your abilities
Speaker 1: to the point where you know you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to compete. And you know, I've seen so many people
Speaker 1: man sadly. I mean, you know, you they'll be asking
Speaker 1: for advice, but then when you when you give them
Speaker 1: the truth. You know, it's like, I know the fucking truth.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you the truth without killing myself too.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to get the
Speaker 1: truth without like being a bitch ass nigga or snitching.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just like I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: what the funk it is like when you come into
Speaker 1: a new game, like but people don't come into this
Speaker 1: game with common sense. Common sense is understanding you're in
Speaker 1: a game. You're in a fucking game that it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a it's a it's
Speaker 1: a business. But people walking here, man, with these egos,
Speaker 1: they're walking here with this other ship like somebody owe
Speaker 1: them something, and it's like a nigga, be really trying
Speaker 1: to just download to you, Like, hey, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to give you some game so you can understand how
Speaker 1: the motherfucker take this game and do whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you want to do with it. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like it's emotional for me because
Speaker 1: I just think I'm just thankful for gotten. I was
Speaker 1: in my right mind, bro to understand what the funk
Speaker 1: I was seeing. I saw what I saw, I knew
Speaker 1: what I knew. I understand, But I was just trying
Speaker 1: to prepare myself to be able because you know what
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know, Man, I lost my mama.
Speaker 1: My mama died there a year before I became really successful,
Speaker 1: and that was really my hero, Like my mom was
Speaker 1: my hero. You know. It's just you know, examples nigga,
Speaker 1: like examples like that, Damn, Like I'd be trying to
Speaker 1: tell these people my mama was my example. She wasn't
Speaker 1: my example because she was a nigger. She was my
Speaker 1: example because she was a woman. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like she was a woman who bore a nigga, who
Speaker 1: was a strong nigga. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: she empowered you know what I'm saying, Like, my mama
Speaker 1: empowered me. My mam had been through ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I've seen people like trying to disrespect
Speaker 1: my MoMA, you know what I'm saying, But my mom
Speaker 1: was strong enough to People don't really inspect what they expect, man,
Speaker 1: when they're coming to us, Like when they come into
Speaker 1: an industry or opportunity in a situation, man, you know,
Speaker 1: they're coming here with with the wrong attitude. It's like
Speaker 1: you could fucking end up losing like completely everything you
Speaker 1: got because you came in here with a different type
Speaker 1: of perspective. That doesn't That doesn't work. You gotta inspect,
Speaker 1: so you know, if you go to a fucking I
Speaker 1: only want to use the example of like being on
Speaker 1: the block of the ship, but I'm just gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to any new school, you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on. If me, if it
Speaker 1: was me, I'm gonna learn what's going on in the
Speaker 1: school before I even go to the school, so I
Speaker 1: can understand what's going on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And some people coming to this game, man, they don't
Speaker 1: they don't take the time to inspect what they expected,
Speaker 1: they ended end up in a situation to where they
Speaker 1: did just looking at it from a perspective like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can make me some money on doing shows. Once
Speaker 1: that ship stopped, you fucked right. The other part about
Speaker 1: this game is like understanding that hits run this game,
Speaker 1: hit records make this ship go round, right, you know so?
Speaker 1: But also it's morals. It's also morals, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Morals go a long way too. Money. Money
Speaker 1: don't money all money and good money. And I tell
Speaker 1: people all the time, especially younger artists. I tell them
Speaker 1: because you know, you talk to these guys and you
Speaker 1: don't want to kill their dreams. But all they seem
Speaker 1: to be fixated on is the money sometimes, and I
Speaker 1: tell them that money doesn't necessarily guarantee your happiness. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: They don't guarantee your happiness. I know a bunch of
Speaker 1: miserable millionaires, man, but they'd be scared. Like I was
Speaker 1: just man, I was around the artists last night, man
Speaker 1: and ship fun my whole fucking night up. Man, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, man, I was like, you just be
Speaker 1: trying to like man, you know what people don't get
Speaker 1: like they'd be expecting you to come into their world.
Speaker 1: My nigga, how can not come into your world when
Speaker 1: your world is where you at? But i''ve seen the
Speaker 1: entire world about twenties times. M hm. That ain't no
Speaker 1: disrespectful ship. But some people are like, are you trying
Speaker 1: to bick dog me? You trying to goddamn put me down?
Speaker 1: Like like I'm nobody, No, no, no, lord, You're fucking
Speaker 1: like like cool it, motherfucker. I'm trying to explain to you, like, hey,
Speaker 1: this ship, it's not what you're doing. Like the way
Speaker 1: you're looking at it, you're gonna lose. I have nothing
Speaker 1: to gain by giving you this information. That is the
Speaker 1: best information you could possibly get because there's nobody on
Speaker 1: your team is gonna tell you this because you know what,
Speaker 1: everybody your team kissing your ass. Everybody's you ain't got
Speaker 1: nobody in your motherfucker count that no ship number one.
Speaker 1: That no, that no way. I know. Secondly, they're trying
Speaker 1: to block I mean you know, like why are you
Speaker 1: saying that? It's the fucking truth. I'm trying to help
Speaker 1: you understand. Like and so if there's somebody said that
Speaker 1: you and me, bro, we would need to take a person.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take that ship personal. I'm like, man, this
Speaker 1: mother talking to some ship. I need the motherfucker be
Speaker 1: attention to. You can always throw that ship in the
Speaker 1: trash can when you get outside. Like, if it's somebody's
Speaker 1: telling you some ship, you me wait, just like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: let me least take it, evaluate it and the ship
Speaker 1: that I don't think that works for me. Let me
Speaker 1: throw that ship outside. But yeah, that's real. Well, you
Speaker 1: know one thing my mom used to tell me, man,
Speaker 1: she still always tell me that some people a lie
Speaker 1: is way more convenient than the truth. A lot of
Speaker 1: people just want their egos correst and they don't want
Speaker 1: to hear the truth. You know, like, um, when you
Speaker 1: tell an artist, man, um, because you know, the thing
Speaker 1: that you should trip me out is people that will
Speaker 1: come to me and say they want a record deal,
Speaker 1: and I would the needs will be people that have
Speaker 1: incredible buzzes, and I would be like, you know, all
Speaker 1: they're going to do is give you a loan. That
Speaker 1: that's that's really equivalent to you. You know, you ever
Speaker 1: seen those paid check advanced places where they advanced people
Speaker 1: and the hood money against the next paid check and
Speaker 1: they never get out level. I know, motherfucker's broke it
Speaker 1: up so millions of records and they tell they haven't recouped.
Speaker 1: I've known, really telling the writers, some of them that
Speaker 1: have made some of the most the best records of
Speaker 1: our generation, they're not around no more because they just
Speaker 1: don't know how to play the game. And you know,
Speaker 1: when you get that one person in that office that
Speaker 1: has that power to say, hey, man, I'm gonna cut
Speaker 1: this dude's water off just because I can, they can
Speaker 1: and they will do so. And it's just it's something
Speaker 1: how strong your mind else man, and how spiritual you
Speaker 1: are on whether you're able to deal with this is
Speaker 1: not It's not made for everybody, and it's definitely not
Speaker 1: made for the weak of heart. And with that me
Speaker 1: and with with that what we me saying that, bro,
Speaker 1: Do you have any instance, man, to where you saw
Speaker 1: somebody first hand trying to really like impede on your
Speaker 1: intellectual for property, trying to pass some bullshit over on you.
Speaker 1: Do you have one of those stories? Um man? That's
Speaker 1: every day. You know, people, your intellectual property is your
Speaker 1: motherfucking mind, My motherucking minds my intellectual property. So people
Speaker 1: always gonna try to impede on your mind. Man. People
Speaker 1: try to impede on your kids. People try to manipulate
Speaker 1: your children to to to work against you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, motherfuckers are trying to find any kind
Speaker 1: of weakly possible to break you down. But but the
Speaker 1: but the perspective is, you know, it's just always being prepared, man,
Speaker 1: being ready, man, just thinking about you know, the thing,
Speaker 1: the impossible. Like the same way I thought about the
Speaker 1: impossible to try to win is the same way I
Speaker 1: think about the impossible. To protect myself, it's to continue
Speaker 1: living the same way that I approach. You know. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a philosophy, you know, And I've been Philosophy
Speaker 1: has been a word this week that I has been
Speaker 1: continuously coming up in my in my world. Know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, you gotta have a fucking philosophy.
Speaker 1: And your philosophy don't have to come from you. Your
Speaker 1: philosophy can be be borrowed from grades. You know, like
Speaker 1: when some people say, like, hey, man, jay Z named
Speaker 1: you the pen, Like what does that mean to you?
Speaker 1: It means fucking everything to me. Um Jay Z never
Speaker 1: did nothing but positive ship for me, you know, honestly, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest ship. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: did everything I was supposed to do that like, you know,
Speaker 1: like pay him back. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I did everything I was supposed to do to
Speaker 1: pay Beyonce back. But I just know every opportunity that
Speaker 1: they gave me, I did my fucking best. You know
Speaker 1: you mentioned j Z because I haven't met whole personally yet.
Speaker 1: I know some people have there with him and they
Speaker 1: say he is an amazing human being. He really is, man,
Speaker 1: you know. And um, you know, some people be named
Speaker 1: you know, some people be mentioning people names and ship
Speaker 1: on some cloud ship. But this ship, I really see
Speaker 1: this ship. I really did. Like that Nigga really did
Speaker 1: with me and give me an opportunity to go fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: like after I went crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: After I was going nuts, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like those people, Man, don't people like to see people happy.
Speaker 1: I ain't gon a lot like they do. People can
Speaker 1: say whatever the fun they want to say. The people
Speaker 1: really like enjoying people going to funk off. They really do.
Speaker 1: They like to see people winning. They like to encourage
Speaker 1: people to grow. They really do. And that's all they gave.
Speaker 1: They gave me a look like they had to give
Speaker 1: me a motherfucking thing. You had to give me this much, bro,
Speaker 1: They gave me that much. The motherfucker like, hey, whack
Speaker 1: do you she? They count? Why? God why? I just
Speaker 1: got in that motherfucker just went nuts because the people
Speaker 1: are just like a man and just do your thing.
Speaker 1: God dog, okay, because you know what it's almost like, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta meet a person where they meet you. Man,
Speaker 1: I knew the funk. I was meeting Beyonce. Now me
Speaker 1: beat Nigga. I was beating. I was meeting Beyonce. I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to get ready. I was fucking ready. Yeah
Speaker 1: with the queen. Man, I wouldn't even playing the game.
Speaker 1: I wann't playing the game I'm talking about. This was
Speaker 1: destiny child. I was like that Beyonce girl is cheap black.
Speaker 1: And it was the other girls too. Everybody knew their part,
Speaker 1: like you know, everybody knew their position, man, everybody like Kelly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, baby girl, Like all of
Speaker 1: them they knew they like but schell everybody knew, they
Speaker 1: knew their position, bro. So I was in there trying
Speaker 1: to just shoot, shoot, shoot fucking shoot shoot for of
Speaker 1: stars man. And so you know, I don't even like this.
Speaker 1: I don't even like the I don't be I ain't
Speaker 1: into that now mentioning the names and ship man, but
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's kind of horrible names. You're
Speaker 1: working with some credible people. Not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: It's all my not it's all I know. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not Cloud. It ain't no cloud popping over here. That's
Speaker 1: all the funk I did, Like I came outside knocking mother,
Speaker 1: like I came outside doing that. They just think, you
Speaker 1: you know, my first ten singles from how one hundred
Speaker 1: number one period period. My black people don't. My black
Speaker 1: people do not realize that I like, I'm like one
Speaker 1: of the most successful song wright produce of my generation.
Speaker 1: Straight the funk up, Like, straight up, let's tap in
Speaker 1: in real quick with the people that allowed us to
Speaker 1: bring you this amazing content. Like I said at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, is undisputed, bro. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you're working with so many iconic artists and you
Speaker 1: being an iconic writer, artist and producer, when you look
Speaker 1: at a new artist, because we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: opportunities that you give us some lucky somebody's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you when you like, when you're talking to an artist,
Speaker 1: what is the first thing that gravitates what makes you
Speaker 1: decide if you can work with somebody or not? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm in here on the job, so ain't no decision
Speaker 1: on whether I can work with him or not. I'm
Speaker 1: working with him, that's number one. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta humble yourself to the perspective, from the
Speaker 1: perspective of like it's my job. See, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about that established person, bro, I'm talking about that person
Speaker 1: that's brand new. I'm talking about that when I went
Speaker 1: with like like give me a plan. Example, Like when
Speaker 1: I went to like Sierra was sixteen turning seventeen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I ain't never gonna take
Speaker 1: that from CC. But she didn't know. She just didn't know.
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew, I knew what to give her
Speaker 1: to say, I knew what to tell her to do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I understand the ego
Speaker 1: ship and all that. You know what I mean people
Speaker 1: you want to got down make it seem like they
Speaker 1: knew because your biggest ship was your first ship. I
Speaker 1: get all that, but the real is c C go
Speaker 1: over there and sit right there, shut out for a second.
Speaker 1: McGee is work. That's what the funk happened. Like, let's
Speaker 1: stop playing because Brown, Let's stop playing like McGhee, this
Speaker 1: is fucking work now. I nigga, you incredible. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it to you like four five times. And you know, nigga,
Speaker 1: you the truth. And look, Chris Brown, nigga truck Brown
Speaker 1: the truth, that niggative natural natural born truth. Like Chris
Speaker 1: Brown is the natural born truth period I'm talking about. See,
Speaker 1: there's a different like people try to compare it, like
Speaker 1: they asked me, like, hey, Sean, what do you think
Speaker 1: about comparing Usher to Chris? I can't. Usher was sucking
Speaker 1: Usher when I got a chance to do. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, nobody knew him, broke that Black is the
Speaker 1: natural born truth. Aesthetically, he could catch a ball off
Speaker 1: the rim to put that motherfucker like and and and
Speaker 1: go double pump that bitch when you throw it up there.
Speaker 1: He just he got it. He that he and he flied.
Speaker 1: That's a fly. Little nigger just a problem. He's just
Speaker 1: a problem. And so me. I think people got a
Speaker 1: problem with understanding why this thing is just like it's
Speaker 1: so cool with giving people love. M man, I love
Speaker 1: every fucking body, bro that I had a chance to
Speaker 1: work with everybody, because what they don't realize that I'm
Speaker 1: here for a purpose. They're here for a purpose and
Speaker 1: we all do different things. I love what I do
Speaker 1: so motherfucker much. I know I can't nobody to do
Speaker 1: what the funk I do better than what I do
Speaker 1: because I love it that much. I don't love being them.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be there. Mo. Folker asked me
Speaker 1: all the time, Hey man, you think it was a
Speaker 1: song that you wanted to keep yourself? Okay, how about
Speaker 1: because I need creative for me. It wasn't creative for me.
Speaker 1: It was it was creative for them. And I want
Speaker 1: to see them fly. I don't gonna they fly around
Speaker 1: the moon a million times. That's for them what God
Speaker 1: got for you. I'd be happy for people, man, I'd
Speaker 1: be happy for people. Live your life, man, live you
Speaker 1: do you that's your ship, Man, don't gonna. I ain't
Speaker 1: never wanted another niggas girl. Elma, I never in my
Speaker 1: life wanted another niggas girl. Man. Never, they'd beat me
Speaker 1: bad as hell. They might be got damn that, but
Speaker 1: by by ship, you got something but that but you
Speaker 1: but it's fine. But I don't want nobody else's check, man.
Speaker 1: I want my ship. I want my check. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: earn my ship. Did you know how hard that is
Speaker 1: for some people, man, to give away some of those
Speaker 1: records that you're giving people. Most artists like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep this for myself, And that's why they can never
Speaker 1: advance as a better producer, because everything they do they
Speaker 1: see I'm gonna keep for me, and you are They're
Speaker 1: just like, here, take this. I want to see you
Speaker 1: go shine, man. I want to see that, man, because
Speaker 1: you know what, Man, we're not going there to work
Speaker 1: on motherfucking anybody. When I was going there working on Chris,
Speaker 1: I want to think about me. Well, I'll think about Chris.
Speaker 1: Damn Chris. How long is your arms? Damn how fast
Speaker 1: you run? Damn? Well you jump goddamn you get jumped. Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm in there doing that check check, check, check, I'm check.
Speaker 1: I'm just checking boxes because that's my fucking job. I'm
Speaker 1: in there to build a fucking Ferrari. I'm not in
Speaker 1: there to own that farrupt. That's not my Ferrari. That
Speaker 1: ain't my Ferrari. I can go find buy me any
Speaker 1: kind of Ferrari, won't but I don't want that one
Speaker 1: because you know what, that's somebody else's ship, and I
Speaker 1: don't enjoy stealing. I don't enjoy borrowing. I don't enjoy
Speaker 1: that ship. I enjoy seeing people happy in their own life.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's I don't know why I feel like that,
Speaker 1: but I'm cool with that. I'm so fucking cool with it.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna let the motherfu abuse me. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna let nobody misuse me. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: nobody like play me. But at the same time, if
Speaker 1: the ship makes sense, Lars, think stuff, because I know
Speaker 1: you have a thing right now, man, where you're launching
Speaker 1: your own label, correct, right? Yeah, So so we launching
Speaker 1: this new label, bro. We got a new label that
Speaker 1: we launched and it's called Hey Young World, and basically,
Speaker 1: Hey Young World, man, it's about um. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a new label man that we that we launched. You man,
Speaker 1: looking for a new artists that you know have sort
Speaker 1: of sort of like um same people that sort of
Speaker 1: have the same perspective of what what what I You know, like,
Speaker 1: in my mind, I saw myself being alleged, but I
Speaker 1: never talked about it. I never said I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a legend. I never said any of that ship man,
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna lie. Man. I was fucking spooked
Speaker 1: um when I first worked with death c Chall But
Speaker 1: did I know I was the fucking truth? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: knew it was the truth from I knew I was
Speaker 1: running a three nine when these niggers are running a
Speaker 1: full eight. I knew that I knew I was. I
Speaker 1: knew I was on the ass nor but I can't
Speaker 1: say it because I realized that, you know, these people,
Speaker 1: they very like they're so fucking um emotional, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and and disrespectful and like sneaky, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just had to
Speaker 1: just be part. I just had to be patient, even
Speaker 1: people that knew like you being there bussing your ass, man,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's just a watch you goddamn sitting there and work
Speaker 1: your ass to death to the point where you just like,
Speaker 1: I know how they gave these motherfucker's. I know I
Speaker 1: just gave him for I just know I gave him
Speaker 1: folks when I finished, I ain't doing no more records broke.
Speaker 1: You know. They had some of the big ones man
Speaker 1: trying to I'm never forgetting you know, mentioned nor name. Man.
Speaker 1: Maybe this one artist motherfucker trying to sund me. Man Like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I need you to redo the song, like, I don't
Speaker 1: rewrite no motherfucking's song. Did you hear the song? That's
Speaker 1: what it is? Is that still around? Ye? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: motherfucker icon. Now I went good. I went good never,
Speaker 1: But you know why because I eat my dog. But man,
Speaker 1: that's why I play you. If you got down't let him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, you're like, man, they'll
Speaker 1: play with you, man, if you let them. That's why
Speaker 1: I mean. You gotta get your footing, you gotta get grown.
Speaker 1: You gotta grow up up in this game. Man, this
Speaker 1: ain't a fucking game. People. You can't finess. A lot
Speaker 1: of people come in this game trying to finest for
Speaker 1: nest finest. No, you know better than that, man, You've
Speaker 1: been around this ship. Man, this ain't a for next game.
Speaker 1: You could try to. But when you're finest, you're gonna
Speaker 1: end up having to fucking pay for that finesse. You
Speaker 1: don want to pay for it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to. I ain't going back, man, trying to have
Speaker 1: to pay for ship like that. I'm gonna get the
Speaker 1: truth every time. I'm gonna come with the truth. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna build it on the truth. I'm gonna build it
Speaker 1: on the laws. And people don't understand that life is
Speaker 1: gravity has laws of gravity. Science has the laws of science.
Speaker 1: Winning is a lot of fucking winning. One of the
Speaker 1: laws of winning is losing. But people want to fucking
Speaker 1: argue all the time. I'm not I with nobody, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna argue with you. I would have been
Speaker 1: to this light seven times. I have pulled up to
Speaker 1: this like seven times. You ain't never even came down
Speaker 1: the street before. But you want me to argue with you,
Speaker 1: argue with you. I ain't argue with you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you sit there and go down that motherfucker street
Speaker 1: on your own and figure that shoot out yourself. That's
Speaker 1: what I have learned about life. Because when you love somebody, man,
Speaker 1: today people take your love for granted. People take your
Speaker 1: your kindness for weakness. Mother fucker's thank you fucking weak
Speaker 1: because you're a real motherfucker. You're like a man, I
Speaker 1: care about this. They always want you to motherfucker like.
Speaker 1: People are always trying to look for your weakness. Man,
Speaker 1: They always trying to look for your weakness to play
Speaker 1: on it. That's a sad motherfucker. That's sad. Man. I
Speaker 1: don't play with people. I don't play with people time.
Speaker 1: I don't play with people kids. I don't play the
Speaker 1: fucking radio. I don't play about ship. I'm always gonna
Speaker 1: keep you, motherfucker. I don't play by motherfucker's. They don't
Speaker 1: play with people, man, because then people are saying people
Speaker 1: that you when you when you play, when you play
Speaker 1: with ship, you're playing yourself. I ain't for to play
Speaker 1: with nobody. I ain't playing with ship. That's real ship. Now,
Speaker 1: with with this new venture that you launching, are you
Speaker 1: looking for a hundred just R and B singers? Are
Speaker 1: you looking for rappers? Are you looking for rock and
Speaker 1: road people? Is it across all the spectrum, the whole
Speaker 1: spectrum of music. So what we did we partnered up
Speaker 1: with my heart right, we parted over my heart and
Speaker 1: um and basically you know we're doing this, um, we're
Speaker 1: doing this looking for legends um talent search, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm so thankful to our heart
Speaker 1: man that they were so kind enough to partner with us. Man.
Speaker 1: And basically, you know, it's like we're looking for legends.
Speaker 1: Looking for legends means we're looking for artists who have
Speaker 1: to have have a bit more than somebody who's hot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm not interested in looking.
Speaker 1: I ain't really interested in the motherfucker that's hot. I'm
Speaker 1: interested in person that understands how the motherfucker perform, how
Speaker 1: to sing, how to work, how to think, how to
Speaker 1: earn you know what I mean. It's those values, man,
Speaker 1: it's those laws man. You know I mean, you can go,
Speaker 1: you go a long way with a person who got
Speaker 1: some common motherfucker says versus the motherfucker ain't got no sense,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like a person that's hot, man,
Speaker 1: at the moment, that's cool. All this ship is cool.
Speaker 1: And you know that as as as Dr King Us say,
Speaker 1: everything has his everything has his value, everything has his moment,
Speaker 1: you know, everything, everything has his moment and this time.
Speaker 1: But you know, you got to think about what's import
Speaker 1: to you, what's import to you the short man and
Speaker 1: alone win. And I've seen so many people man that
Speaker 1: I started out with. Man, old folks. Man, the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: going in ten into ten. I can't find him. I
Speaker 1: can't see him. I saw under three thousand men and
Speaker 1: the motherfucking Target, and I was like, man, stacks, man,
Speaker 1: what the funk? Man like? I just bro please like
Speaker 1: he just like man Sean, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the old last rapper. Man. That ship sucked me up.
Speaker 1: Bro h three thousand one of the greatest of all time. Man,
Speaker 1: But you know that's how you know how real that
Speaker 1: is what he said? Man, Man, that ship made me cry.
Speaker 1: What I swell the God that ship made me crying.
Speaker 1: That's sucking real ship. And nigga love this ship so much. Man,
Speaker 1: they gonna want to be a bit You understand what
Speaker 1: that means. That niggas don't understand what that means. They
Speaker 1: get just man. So I just thinker coming down to
Speaker 1: Elep motherfucker escalator, I was like, damn that oh you
Speaker 1: know fucking old lass crap. Damn they just brought me
Speaker 1: to tears. Man, nigga love this ship. Man, and the
Speaker 1: nigga's out here playing with opportunities. I don't play with people. Man,
Speaker 1: don't play man. He mother can play too much. Man. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: you're a great brother. Man. I can feel your energy
Speaker 1: and your spirit. Man. For those people out there that
Speaker 1: want get at you by that don't mean that this man,
Speaker 1: want your spam in this page with a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff for people that's interested. Man. For those artists out there,
Speaker 1: man interested manner throwing they had in the ring, how
Speaker 1: can they do that? Man? And you can always you know,
Speaker 1: you can get at me. Man up Sean Garrett the
Speaker 1: pen Man. My instagram is Sean Garrett depin um. You
Speaker 1: can find your way to get at me. Man. You
Speaker 1: could d m me or give me on Instagram Man,
Speaker 1: Sean Garrett. Man, I just want to help as many
Speaker 1: people man on as earth man as I can before
Speaker 1: I live my fucking man, Si Man, I think God
Speaker 1: for a long time. Man. Yeah, but it's just like
Speaker 1: it's just too many kids, man, just sucking their life off. Man. Bullshit, Man,
Speaker 1: like over bullshit, you know what I mean? Like, you
Speaker 1: know you gotta look at ship like I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, study man, study, study why this
Speaker 1: ship started steady James Brown. Man, Study what James Brown
Speaker 1: went to. You know what I'm saying that man was
Speaker 1: able to got them started own radio station, or you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he was he was not
Speaker 1: an anomaly, you know what I mean? He was. He
Speaker 1: was he was ahead of his time, but he was
Speaker 1: also ahead of a generation. He was ahead of a nation,
Speaker 1: he was head of a pissed me off, he Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a person in this. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just a person at this time that's trying to
Speaker 1: do my partner. That's all I can do. Man, It's
Speaker 1: just this just pissing me off. Because we always cried
Speaker 1: by opportunity. We're always asking people to give us a chance.
Speaker 1: We always asking the ship, always fucking asking the ship.
Speaker 1: And then when we get the opportunity, Man, want to
Speaker 1: suck it out. Whenever you see a little light, I
Speaker 1: want to get so happy. Man. To the point, man,
Speaker 1: where you misused and and abuse your your your your influence.
Speaker 1: Your influence is not just to make mockery and make money.
Speaker 1: That's not what the influence is all about. Influences about
Speaker 1: understanding how to help not just your people, but to
Speaker 1: help all people. You know what I'm saying, help all people.
Speaker 1: Understand exactly as much as you can. That's it. It
Speaker 1: ain't like I'm preaching, because I'm not. I'm not preaching,
Speaker 1: But I want to do something more with my talent,
Speaker 1: man than just got damn talk about what the funk
Speaker 1: out of did? It ain't about that, but I want
Speaker 1: motherfucker to understand the philosophy. It's the philosophy, man, It's
Speaker 1: the philosophy of being told you couldn't do it. That's
Speaker 1: part of it, right, That's the struggle. But then when
Speaker 1: you get past it, being able to say, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest told me I ain't looked like I was
Speaker 1: supposed to see. Motherfucker's told me you know, nigga, you
Speaker 1: look like a boxer. Think I can see it. Tell
Speaker 1: your me, motherfucker reasons why motherfucker's like I wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to make it? Ain't you fuck? Because because I know
Speaker 1: I know that, like I was put here for a purpose,
Speaker 1: so given given you know what. A many times I
Speaker 1: see artists cry, fail, get dropped, and she don't make
Speaker 1: me feel good that you don't make me feel it
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel good because I know their life
Speaker 1: sucked up. I know their life sucked up. I know
Speaker 1: what it's like because I don't see show me the
Speaker 1: artists sucked up. Bro, every every artist need Beyonce, every
Speaker 1: artists ain't fucking gonna make it. And I'm just like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: stop being an asshole at the time. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be an asshole. You know what I'm saying. Don't
Speaker 1: don't don't be an asshole down. This ain't the time
Speaker 1: you win it. Don't be an asshole. Take this time,
Speaker 1: take this opportunity, take this money, whatever you make it,
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, whatever you feel like is you know,
Speaker 1: you feel like you're popping in whatever bags and ship
Speaker 1: you carried and all that other ship, whatever car you're driving. Man,
Speaker 1: take this sees this moment, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and think about what you want to do with the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. And that's that's all I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do. Man. Being a songwriter, I take the you know,
Speaker 1: being a you know ship being. Um. I liked the
Speaker 1: idea of being a songwriter sometimes because I don't have
Speaker 1: to deal with the pressure of trying to be some
Speaker 1: motherfucker I'm not. I ken't stand that. I hate trying
Speaker 1: to be who the funk ain't and Nick pull up
Speaker 1: on me. Man, see me, ma'am, same thing every day. Man,
Speaker 1: hold that thought, brother, We'll be right back. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, bro, how often do you think that
Speaker 1: goes on? I kind of know the answer to that,
Speaker 1: but I want the people to hear you. I want
Speaker 1: to hear what's your response, heals? How often do you
Speaker 1: think artists are asked to change who they really are
Speaker 1: as a person? Man, I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: A lot of times. Motherfucker's don'ta be asking the artists
Speaker 1: artist beeap motherfucking to be on the bullshit artist be
Speaker 1: out here trying to change who the funk there is.
Speaker 1: If you just stay focused on what the funk you do,
Speaker 1: person ain't gonna sign you. The psychologist is a person,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna sign you trying to be one person to
Speaker 1: try to change you to that other person. If that
Speaker 1: was the case, they want to sign you in the
Speaker 1: first motherfucking place. Artist getting away, The artists be getting
Speaker 1: away from what the funk they signed up to do. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you Shine, I've
Speaker 1: seen crazy ship. I've seen motherfucker's make it and turning
Speaker 1: the gang Bangers. I've seen motherfucker's make it and just
Speaker 1: like a number of things that you'd be wondering, Like, Dude,
Speaker 1: these guys that you want to go hang out with
Speaker 1: is trying to get where you're at. They're not trying,
Speaker 1: and you want to come down and where do you at? Man?
Speaker 1: They don't make no sense. Yeah, did you ever try
Speaker 1: to talk to those guys who do dumb ship like that? No?
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you said. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you're saying right now, and I talked to you off note,
Speaker 1: But you and I know the same people who are
Speaker 1: that incredible and it hurt me to my heart. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to not what
Speaker 1: I mean? What can I say? You know? Like I
Speaker 1: told you last night, Man, it's like sometimes man, artists
Speaker 1: out here, Bro, some amazing it's amazing artists that has
Speaker 1: the potential. You know, you gotta believe in help. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying help Help is not a bad word.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something, bro, because I love
Speaker 1: our people, Bro. I think we're the most talented people
Speaker 1: in the world. We don't use the platform to tear
Speaker 1: brothers down, but I always tell the truth from like
Speaker 1: like you know you like, I see Soldier Boy does
Speaker 1: this thing. Soldier Boy, he had his run, he does this.
Speaker 1: You know, he does his thing. Man. I like some
Speaker 1: young black people get money and be successful. I really, man,
Speaker 1: and I think he's still got action. Man. I really
Speaker 1: thought that Chris Brown was gonna be the Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: of this fucking generation. That boy is a bad motherfucker dog.
Speaker 1: And I wish I wish because he's a chrome man, Bro,
Speaker 1: But I wish I could talk to that brother. Man.
Speaker 1: I wish I could talk to him, man. I wish
Speaker 1: I could tell him, man, hey, because you know what, man,
Speaker 1: we all ain't none of us perfect, Bro, But that
Speaker 1: motherfucker gives me els, Bro when I see him. He's
Speaker 1: that bad dog and that talented man. He's a cold
Speaker 1: motherfucker dog. And you know, if I compare motherfucker to
Speaker 1: Mike Dog, that means you a bad motherfucker. Hey, Man,
Speaker 1: that's my brother. I pray for him every day. I
Speaker 1: spent some amazing times for Chris Um. I love him man.
Speaker 1: I just love him. Man, I love him. I love
Speaker 1: to his court. Yes, Sean, and I would never try
Speaker 1: to get you to say nothing against him, Chris Brown,
Speaker 1: this ain't nothing against you, brother, of anything. I'm getting
Speaker 1: your flowers. You are a bad man. Do what you
Speaker 1: came here to do, Bro, and use those talents man
Speaker 1: to God gave you man to be a blessing for
Speaker 1: the world. I'm gonna tell you, man, I've been working
Speaker 1: with a lot of at a bit blessed man or
Speaker 1: what with a lot of people in that heat A
Speaker 1: natural one truth. But man, you know the ship. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you can do that need the truth true.
Speaker 1: I love him man like he you know, it's like
Speaker 1: that nigger man has so kind of he's just a
Speaker 1: kid too at the same time like he like a
Speaker 1: kid like not like a kid like like saying some
Speaker 1: negative shit about him. You just you know, like a
Speaker 1: chumming and thinking like a it's just like a great person. Man.
Speaker 1: He just has like you know, his ways of like
Speaker 1: justin it's just dope. Man, I ain't in his you know.
Speaker 1: I you know it's like you learned like you just
Speaker 1: have sometimes Man, you just stay out of nigga away.
Speaker 1: But then you know that's the hurtful part too, Like
Speaker 1: you know, your affection for a person's energy and your
Speaker 1: affection for perfecting or being a part of affecting a
Speaker 1: person's abilities. It's just it's just a drug too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it's a drug for me,
Speaker 1: Like I enjoyed, I enjoy man amazement. I enjoy it
Speaker 1: like I've always love excitement, like I love the tips.
Speaker 1: That's why I do so many tip of records, man,
Speaker 1: Like I love and you a ballplayer, bro, because I
Speaker 1: can look at your frame until he was a ball
Speaker 1: play because I was a ball player. Man. It's that.
Speaker 1: It's that that when we started playing, that urge to compete,
Speaker 1: don't leave. But it's still there. It's just like now
Speaker 1: instead of me busting the quarterback says, I'm busting needs
Speaker 1: other we busting these other podcasts as now. You know what, man,
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, we're gonna bust you all that. You
Speaker 1: know man, that and you know what, you just hit
Speaker 1: the nail on the head, man. Competing is just a
Speaker 1: part of our DNA, you know. And uh, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to take no losses. Man, I don't want
Speaker 1: to take no losses. I don't want to take no
Speaker 1: more losses. Man, I've seen too many losses. And you know, man,
Speaker 1: Chris is like the last one that I have been
Speaker 1: that It's just unbelievable in so many ways. Man, you know, like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, not even just as a performer. You know,
Speaker 1: he's such an amazing artist, Like he's an artistic just
Speaker 1: like like throwing or like if you look at the
Speaker 1: um if you look at that cartoon that he did
Speaker 1: with him and Thug, man, Oh my god, I just
Speaker 1: thought that was so amazing and funding that comes from
Speaker 1: God though, yeah, and I'd be like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to tell my brother, like like I could
Speaker 1: probably go I could go pull up on a man
Speaker 1: and all that type ship. Man, but we're gonna like
Speaker 1: I like God to work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like God to work and uh, and whatever he
Speaker 1: needs from me, Man always be there. Man. But he
Speaker 1: always been super super sweet to me man, and a
Speaker 1: good person and my brother and like nice and that
Speaker 1: we never had no I never had no pounds with
Speaker 1: Chris every man. So but I just also respect people's face,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying people grow. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you have to broke because you know, sometimes man,
Speaker 1: young people learn better by their own experiences. Man. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, I've heard nothing but good stuff about
Speaker 1: that young man, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing about me, man, I think you know. And
Speaker 1: I've never been one of them old niggas to sit
Speaker 1: up and talk about the young cats I love? Are
Speaker 1: you with anything? We need to encourage them? And the
Speaker 1: thing is, Man, a lot of us, a lot of
Speaker 1: the so called ogs, let a lot of the young
Speaker 1: brothers down, man by trying to you know, by not
Speaker 1: pulling them to the side or tell them the wrong ship.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you gotta keep give a motherfucker the
Speaker 1: truth and tell him, Man, look did you do this?
Speaker 1: You gonna lose every thing that didn't work out for me.
Speaker 1: So it's our job as the older people, not for
Speaker 1: me to be trying to dress like yo. That's why
Speaker 1: I dressed a certain way. Every time somebody seen me.
Speaker 1: I got on slacks and the collar shirt. I don't
Speaker 1: wear my pants hanging off my ass. I'm somebody's daddy dog.
Speaker 1: I got grown ass keys. I'm not gonna walk around
Speaker 1: like a food. You never go see me online. This
Speaker 1: is nobody. They can have my name and they off
Speaker 1: for all day. It's whatever to me. But you never
Speaker 1: gonna see me doing that because I conduct myself like
Speaker 1: an a dope. So the thing is man, and I
Speaker 1: think with hip hop it calls a lot of our
Speaker 1: older dudes. How many times have you've seen the niggatives
Speaker 1: forty five years old with braids on his pants, ain'ting
Speaker 1: off his ass and you're like, oh, gee, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know you? Oh, now make you
Speaker 1: forty some years old and you're still walking around like
Speaker 1: a little kid. It's not that time. Man. When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I thought that's a child. When I'm
Speaker 1: a grown man, grown man, I'm always conscious of that.
Speaker 1: So I always watch what comes out my mouth. Always
Speaker 1: watch the way I am, and you can see me.
Speaker 1: The way I am on this camera is the way
Speaker 1: I am when I live my life. This is just
Speaker 1: this is the internet right here. This is not the streets.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us is living for
Speaker 1: the Internet right now. The Internet ain't real, dog, because
Speaker 1: everybody on the Internet. When you look at Facebook and Instagram,
Speaker 1: everybody always on a vocation. Everybody always on the trip,
Speaker 1: Everybody always counting money. Everybody is always and some ship
Speaker 1: down rent it for the weekend. Telling motherfucker's you've got
Speaker 1: problems paying your bibles. Tell the motherfucker's that you just
Speaker 1: that you had to borrow two on the dollars from
Speaker 1: your mama to pay your rip this month. But check
Speaker 1: you at the club popping bottles all night. You know.
Speaker 1: Let's start being real with each other. And that's the problem. Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of these youngsters, man, are so caught up
Speaker 1: and ship it's not real that they can't see real.
Speaker 1: So it's crazy, man, But I appreciate you, brother. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you bringing your session. Man, and you got
Speaker 1: a friend of me, bro. I think what you're doing
Speaker 1: gona blow up, man. I know because you've been doing
Speaker 1: it for a long time. Man. We're excited, man, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Man. Everybody is you know watching um
Speaker 1: stay tuned to Summer Walk album and is really great.
Speaker 1: It's it's really I gotta I gotta go online and
Speaker 1: see it, you know. I feel like it's one of
Speaker 1: the best out R and B albums in the last
Speaker 1: two years. I'm not even Captain like, I'm not capping
Speaker 1: at all. Just just just Summer Walker album. It's one
Speaker 1: of the best R and B albums in the last
Speaker 1: two years, bro. And you know the reason why I
Speaker 1: say that, she's twenty three years old. She's talking about
Speaker 1: the struggle of a female trying to not just a
Speaker 1: but to survive her mental you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a fun up situation today because you're living online
Speaker 1: and I don't, like, I've never seen and I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen someone so uh, I've never
Speaker 1: seen nobody lived in their life in front of the
Speaker 1: world like she has and unapologetically. You know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to do that. It's hard, yes, and but at the
Speaker 1: same time, I have to respect because respect because it's
Speaker 1: like she don't that's her way of that's her way
Speaker 1: of expressing herself. You know. I had an amazing time
Speaker 1: working with with Summer men and I work with a
Speaker 1: lot of great artists men, but this has been uh,
Speaker 1: a real pleasure because I was in like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was able to grow um working
Speaker 1: with her because it wasn't my typical way of dealing
Speaker 1: with artists. You know what I'm saying. That she wasn't.
Speaker 1: She wasn't. Um, she definitely wasn't typical, and she definitely
Speaker 1: wasn't She was completely unusual. But are beautiful unusual, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She was Uh, she was definitely UM.
Speaker 1: I like to call her unicorn. I like to call
Speaker 1: her special, you know. And she has a perspective um
Speaker 1: that a lot of young girls are not able to
Speaker 1: explain what and not just young girl like I could say,
Speaker 1: I could promise you this. Young women gonna learn from
Speaker 1: this album. Grown ass women are gonna learn from this album.
Speaker 1: Mamas are gonna grown grow from this album. Little Sister's
Speaker 1: gonna grow and grown as men gonna grow from this
Speaker 1: album because there's so many great records on this album
Speaker 1: that it ain't like the last album. It's not like
Speaker 1: over it where you got short songs and no ridges
Speaker 1: and um limitations on the conversation to the way you
Speaker 1: feel like Damn, I was loving that but then it
Speaker 1: just stopped. It's not that the ship is the ship
Speaker 1: is deep, man, It's it's real. And UM, I just
Speaker 1: want to go ahead on and congratulate Summer right now,
Speaker 1: UM and LVR man Man and all the people that
Speaker 1: was involved in this album, man, just for some great
Speaker 1: ass work. I'm gonna tell you how straight up the
Speaker 1: ship I'm gonna I'm gonna go grab it right now, bro,
Speaker 1: because you don't hit me to something. I've always put
Speaker 1: some dope music, man, so I need that in my life.
Speaker 1: It ain't out yet, No, it come out. The single
Speaker 1: comes out, um any day now. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: the date. The single comes out any date now. And
Speaker 1: now the album, I think the album is dropping in November,
Speaker 1: so we're probably about forty days away from the album dropping,
Speaker 1: and then we're like a few days from the single dropping.
Speaker 1: So what's gonna be the least single? What was that
Speaker 1: a secret? Now? Or we're gonna keep a secret because
Speaker 1: you know I got you know, we got a radio
Speaker 1: show too, bro, I don't know if you know that now.
Speaker 1: We got a radio show too. So we definitely don't
Speaker 1: support it in more ways than one. We can definitely
Speaker 1: bang it out. So when those bedia best, So when
Speaker 1: you see those b bds and media based spins coming
Speaker 1: from them, but living look markets in California gonna say, man,
Speaker 1: my nigga norm out, they're looking out for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I look, man, I tell you this, Bro, let's talk
Speaker 1: of off the recommend I make sure you got it
Speaker 1: like I had everybody. You know, everybody else, man, and
Speaker 1: you can and you can do your thing. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, let everybody know what the funk
Speaker 1: it is. But nah, I really fun with you. Man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your energy, Appreciate your you know yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like integrity, you know what I'm saying on some
Speaker 1: real cool ship, like real ship, you know, real understand real,
Speaker 1: So appreciate it. Bro, Appreciate it. Man. Well, that concludes
Speaker 1: another episode against the Chronicles podcast. Man, I like the
Speaker 1: one the only shine Garret for stepping through to sit
Speaker 1: down with your boy to day. And that's the Pins.
Speaker 1: Whenever jay Z give you a name, that's some cold ship.
Speaker 1: I would give my thing legally changed to the fucking Penis.
Speaker 1: I'm the pen. You know what I'm saying, The Pin.
Speaker 1: I need the mother do that. I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: might take you up on that. Bro, you said the Pen,
Speaker 1: I would be Sean the Pin Garrett. Man, you got
Speaker 1: a beautiful energy, brother, and man, I'm here for you, bro,
Speaker 1: one love. I appreciate it. Thank you,