WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: Title 42, Pt 3: The Mutual Aid Response

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<v Speaker 1>Try and carpool, try and shove into cars as best

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<v Speaker 1>you can, just so that we don't have a mile long.

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<v Speaker 2>Line of cars.

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<v Speaker 3>We have trash bags, we have gloves, we have things

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<v Speaker 3>that we're bringing up there, so what we have cars

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<v Speaker 3>that you can get all of that out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Once we pull over. We're also setting up a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of pop ups.

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<v Speaker 4>Hocumba, California, is a tiny town. You've probably never heard

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<v Speaker 4>of it. It's actually really charming. There's a hot spring

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<v Speaker 4>and a gorgeous hotel, a few stores selling our drinkets,

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing. There's a lovely lake fed by

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<v Speaker 4>the spring. And on this Sunday morning, there are about

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<v Speaker 4>fifty people outside an old petrol station, nervously pounding bottles

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<v Speaker 4>of water, applying sunscreen, and getting ready to head out

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<v Speaker 4>of the desert to clear up the ad hoc migrant

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<v Speaker 4>camp that has held as many as fifteen hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>out in the open when Title forty two ended and

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<v Speaker 4>Border patrol made no plans to keep them anywhere. It

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<v Speaker 4>was a diverse bunch of people hidden beneath sun hats.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an Australian film producer who was at a conference

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<v Speaker 4>in Orlando and booked a fly over a grad student painter.

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<v Speaker 4>The folks who were in the Hookumber hotel who organize

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<v Speaker 4>this whole thing, they're friends from the hospitality industry in

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego. There were students and mums and dads and

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<v Speaker 4>about the entire population of this tiny desert town. There

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<v Speaker 4>were also two former International Aid workers who are in

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<v Speaker 4>a tower where you can look at the desert, which

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<v Speaker 4>is actually a much cooler thing than it sounds. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's also a museum of boulders right next to it.

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<v Speaker 4>You should proably check them out during the area. I

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<v Speaker 4>spent the day helping out in Neucumber after the refugees,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them in handcuffs, had been taken by private

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<v Speaker 4>contractors to be processed by CBP's Office of Field Operations.

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<v Speaker 4>We met at a petrol station in the middle of town.

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<v Speaker 4>The space where the pumps should be was filled with tons,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do mean tons of bottled water, masks, hand

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<v Speaker 4>sanitized and other necessary supplies. When I'd arrived the night before,

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<v Speaker 4>around ten pm, the eerie green and yellow lights reflecting

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<v Speaker 4>from the roof had lit up palace of water like

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of giant lava lamp, and driving across the desert,

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<v Speaker 4>the town looked like it was glowing. The town certainly

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<v Speaker 4>has had a bit of a glow up in the

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<v Speaker 4>last few years. Three business partners purchased their Cumber hot

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<v Speaker 4>Springs hotel down in the mouth property that had once

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<v Speaker 4>been a glamorous desert resort, and they've been restoring the

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<v Speaker 4>place for nearly two years. Inadvertently, they also purchased a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of land and a few other rundown buildings in

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<v Speaker 4>a town that were sold as a lot with the hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>It was in one of these buildings, the old gas station,

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<v Speaker 4>that they set up a de facto mutual aid hubbo

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<v Speaker 4>almost overnight. The hotel's not finished yet, and they probably

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<v Speaker 4>didn't make much progress on it during the week when

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<v Speaker 4>they were feeding more than a thousand people in the desert.

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<v Speaker 4>The town's lake, fed by a natural spring an old

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<v Speaker 4>bath house used to be attractions. Today the bathhouse's roof

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<v Speaker 4>has fallen off, but it still makes a pretty cool

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<v Speaker 4>concert venue, and the whole town offers commanding views of

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<v Speaker 4>the border wall, which sadly is only a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred yards from the main street. When I arrived

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<v Speaker 4>in Houcumber, everything was close. The mini Mark was sold out,

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<v Speaker 4>the hotel was still being worked on, and the hotel

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen was churning out food for volunteers at the clean

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<v Speaker 4>up effort. I asked Marissa, one of the volunteers I

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<v Speaker 4>met that day, about her first impressions on arriving at

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<v Speaker 4>a meeting point.

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<v Speaker 1>I was incredibly impressed by what the people of hu

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<v Speaker 1>Kumba and the hotel group of individuals that have organized this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I couldn't believe seeing their donation depot in that

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<v Speaker 1>old car wash, just to how well organized everything was,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they provided so much for the volunteers, and

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<v Speaker 1>the just the level of love and compassion and was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an amazing opportunity to be part of, very humbling.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been there since late the night before after visiting

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<v Speaker 4>border crossings in California and Arizona, and Jeff, one of

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<v Speaker 4>the co owners a hotel, can you let me put

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<v Speaker 4>up my truck in some desert behind his house.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a person who enjoys sleeping outside, and I do

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<v Speaker 4>it as often as I can. I try and camp

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<v Speaker 4>police a month. But that night I was cold even

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<v Speaker 4>underneath my down blanket, and I couldn't help but think

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<v Speaker 4>of how desperate it must have been to spend nearly

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<v Speaker 4>a week out there with nothing but in my last

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<v Speaker 4>base blanket and some thorny bushes to keep you warm.

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<v Speaker 4>It's certainly not the welcome that one would expect from

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<v Speaker 4>their richest nation on Earth, which had three years to repair.

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<v Speaker 4>For the day, Title forty two ended to get a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of background out of town. I spoke to Natalie.

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<v Speaker 3>So the previous owner bought it at an auction, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that the previous owner didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 3>much she was getting, and he kind of just like

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<v Speaker 3>neglected a bunch of it, you know. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>was older, and so he finally sold off the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>He thought he was just buying the hotel, but he

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<v Speaker 3>buying all the land as well. So they when they

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<v Speaker 3>bought the hotel, they acquired all their land. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>actually putting money into it and fixing and everything up,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>The hotel in Lake and hot Spring really are wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>But the scene that had played out there on the

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<v Speaker 4>eleventh of May with anything but within a short period

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<v Speaker 4>of time, more than a thousand people of all ages

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<v Speaker 4>and nationalities will be held in the open desert and

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<v Speaker 4>left defend large for themselves. I let Natalie describe the

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<v Speaker 4>space there in.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of cactuses everywhere, so there's environmental like a

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<v Speaker 3>watch out where you're walking that it's hot. It's hot

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<v Speaker 3>in mid day and really cold at night. Because it's

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<v Speaker 3>the high desert, there can be gusts of wind that

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<v Speaker 3>can just take over, get dust in your eyes, your hair,

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<v Speaker 3>everything's just you're just filthy and lack of food.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no resources. You're in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked to a lot of the volunteers, many of

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<v Speaker 4>whom have been in the desert for me yet week.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd first been made aware of the impending humanitarian crisis

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<v Speaker 4>late on Thursday night, but one of the people working

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<v Speaker 4>on the renovation of the Hot Springs Hotel got a

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<v Speaker 4>call about it. Within a few hours, the hotel, zwners

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<v Speaker 4>and all this stuff were running what became very nearly

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<v Speaker 4>the only source of food, shelter, and water for more

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<v Speaker 4>than a thousand people trapped and held in the desert

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<v Speaker 4>by CBP. I spoke to Sam, another volunteer, to get

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<v Speaker 4>sensor response. Now, Sam is a kind of guy who

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<v Speaker 4>just looks like he's a home in the desert. His

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<v Speaker 4>Wi brim hat, boots, and long cleeved shirt and pants

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<v Speaker 4>told me he spent plenty of days under the baking

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<v Speaker 4>sign out here. And his redness with an isoproble alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>spray disinfect people's boots after walking in an area that

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<v Speaker 4>was likely covered in human shit told me he'd been

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<v Speaker 4>around one or two situations like this in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>I spent a great deal of my life as his

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<v Speaker 6>second career, working for in developmental relief logistics in Southeast Asia,

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<v Speaker 6>mainly working with large age organizations for example World Food Program,

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<v Speaker 6>Doctors without Borders, shild units, many many differrom that place things.

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<v Speaker 4>In the context of that kind of experience. It's easy

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<v Speaker 4>to understand why people come to the United States, but

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<v Speaker 4>I asked Sam to put the situation here into perspective

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<v Speaker 4>for me. It's understandable that folks came to the US,

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<v Speaker 4>but why to a tiny desert town of five hundred people.

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<v Speaker 6>These people were radically unprepared for what they were going

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<v Speaker 6>to go through because they were sold a bill of

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<v Speaker 6>goods by coyotes on the other side about what was

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen to them. You understand. So they had

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<v Speaker 6>really no idea what they were getting into at all,

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<v Speaker 6>and so there was not anything in the way of

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<v Speaker 6>life threatening situations for any of those people in any

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<v Speaker 6>meaningful way, a great deal of discomfort. It could have

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<v Speaker 6>turned very badly if these people here had not stepped up,

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<v Speaker 6>because the border patrol was completely overwhelmed, and so there

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<v Speaker 6>was never that bad of a situation here compared to

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<v Speaker 6>what I have seen in other places in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>A sound pointed out the migrants were now gone, but

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<v Speaker 4>we were still surrounded by times of supplies. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the time there was no way of knowing the scope

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<v Speaker 4>or scale of the need. People reacted as best they could.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually it was overkilled, but you had no way of

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<v Speaker 6>knowing right at the time. There's just no way to know.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you know ahead of time? You always ask

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<v Speaker 6>for as much as you can get, because why would

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<v Speaker 6>you not. I mean, you never know what. You don't

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<v Speaker 6>know how many of them with babies that are on

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<v Speaker 6>the other side of the wall right now might be zero,

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<v Speaker 6>might be five hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>You have no idea, you know, before anyone knew how

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<v Speaker 4>if this was going to end, or really what even

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<v Speaker 4>was going on, dozens of people across the county decided

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<v Speaker 4>to help. One of them was Katie. Here she is

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<v Speaker 4>describing some of the volunteers she worked alongside.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a hard hodgepodge of people and as volunteers

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<v Speaker 7>and leading it were some of the owners of a

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<v Speaker 7>hotel out there, and that was the main organizers. But

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<v Speaker 7>who showed up were people from the town, people that

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<v Speaker 7>I knew and recognized. There was some really devout, like

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<v Speaker 7>they're twenty four hours a day, and then there was

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<v Speaker 7>some coming in and out. But I met people from

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<v Speaker 7>all over the county, and most of them answered the

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<v Speaker 7>call through Instagram of the hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>All those volunteers called their friends, who called their friends,

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<v Speaker 4>who gradually coordinated response. Natalie first became aware of this,

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<v Speaker 4>as many volunteers did, through an Instagram post by Melissa

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<v Speaker 4>and another the three co owners of the Combo Hotel

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<v Speaker 4>on Thursday night, just as title forty two was ending.

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<v Speaker 4>Natalie saw the post and decided to help. At first,

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<v Speaker 4>she wanted to leave right then at one am as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as she'd seen the post, but after consulting her family,

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<v Speaker 4>she decided to make her own post, asking for people

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<v Speaker 4>to bring supplies that were needed. Soon she was overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 4>by the response.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean immediately, even at one in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I was getting messages because I posted it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I posted the.

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<v Speaker 3>Story, I immediately got messages from front say I'll bring

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<v Speaker 3>a blanket over.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your address.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone just kind of rallied and started bringing supplies over,

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<v Speaker 3>collecting money as well. Some friends started collecting money and

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<v Speaker 3>then bought stuff and brought loads of food and things

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<v Speaker 3>to my house.

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<v Speaker 4>Her husband and ferried the supplies to Akomba, where they

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<v Speaker 4>were joined by donations from all over the county in

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<v Speaker 4>the old petrol station. Like Natalie, Katie also saw a

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<v Speaker 4>post and immediately felt compelled to help. She called a

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<v Speaker 4>friend and some members of her family instead about raising

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<v Speaker 4>funds and buying supplies.

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<v Speaker 7>So I met my friend at a cafe and in

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<v Speaker 7>that in the meantime, and I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 7>of this is really important. So in the meantime, I

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<v Speaker 7>text my mother and my two sisters who live on

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<v Speaker 7>the East coast, and just it was late at night

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<v Speaker 7>for them, and I just said, I would love for

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<v Speaker 7>you to send prayers, because that's something that I believe in.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe in prayer or intention and thought reality, and

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<v Speaker 7>some of it was just because I felt so touched,

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<v Speaker 7>like praying for the community that I love too. And

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<v Speaker 7>the next thing, I know, like my venmo was blowing

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<v Speaker 7>up and there was one thousand dollars in my venmo

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<v Speaker 7>sent from my family members. And so by the time

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<v Speaker 7>my friend arrived, we were like, let's go and we

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<v Speaker 7>filled our car with Amazingly, we found like organic, there's

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<v Speaker 7>grocery outlet, right, so we found organic soup for you know,

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<v Speaker 7>dollars something a can, and we spent a few hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>And the next morning we met early and we stopped

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<v Speaker 7>in El Cone on the way and we spent all

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<v Speaker 7>the rest on We went to three or four thrift

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<v Speaker 7>stores and bought every blanket and hat and baby carrier.

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<v Speaker 7>Because we have both focused on motherhood in our careers.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked the people I spoke to about a week

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<v Speaker 4>later how the experience had impacted them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was overwhelming, just the the way the community really

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<v Speaker 3>came around and supported the people in Hukumba that were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to help. You know, after we finished cleaning up,

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<v Speaker 3>when we're back at the gas station, the Amazon driver

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<v Speaker 3>was delivering like I think he delivered three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty boxes and so we had to open them up

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<v Speaker 3>and sort them and it was there was so much food.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it was insane amount of food, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was awesome. It was really cool just to see

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<v Speaker 3>how many people stabbed up and donated.

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<v Speaker 4>I like some of the people I saw in Santa Cedro. Natalie, Katie,

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<v Speaker 4>Sam and Marissa are not part of an NGO or

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<v Speaker 4>a mutual aid collective. They're just people who wanted to help,

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<v Speaker 4>and that describes most of the people in Ucumber, although

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<v Speaker 4>some of them did have previous and regular volunteer experience

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<v Speaker 4>with excellent groups like Border Kindness. I asked Katie to

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<v Speaker 4>reflect on the mutual aid approach and the absence of massive,

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<v Speaker 4>multimillion dollar organizations. Yeah, wasn't there, right.

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<v Speaker 7>No, they weren't there. We were told that the Red

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<v Speaker 7>Cross couldn't come unless Border Patrol called, and Border Patrol

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<v Speaker 7>told us that they weren't allowed to call the Red Cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a pretty standard.

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<v Speaker 4>The one institution that did show support to people in

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<v Speaker 4>Hucumber was one that you might not expect, given the

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<v Speaker 4>support for this cruel immigration policy by almost all the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats in DC. But things are different when you can

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<v Speaker 4>see the results of these policies with your own eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps that's why I didn't see a single elected official

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<v Speaker 4>in my entire week at the border. But one person

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<v Speaker 4>I missed whoever one mentioned, was a lady who worked

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<v Speaker 4>for California Senator Steve Pidia. I won't name her as

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have her permission, but hopefully one dayssume we'll

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<v Speaker 4>be able to interview her. I'll let Katie describe the

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<v Speaker 4>role this woman played.

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<v Speaker 7>There was someone from Steve Padilla's team, and that's the

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<v Speaker 7>woman I rode with.

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<v Speaker 8>And.

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<v Speaker 7>She was incredible. Her brother in law is the chef

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<v Speaker 7>at the hotel, so I think, I mean, she might

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<v Speaker 7>have came anyway, but she came faster and there was

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<v Speaker 7>true connection, and she stood up to the border patrol

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<v Speaker 7>and said, you know, said we're allowed. We're here on

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<v Speaker 7>behalf of this senator. So I mean I saw some

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<v Speaker 7>like had had like arguments about our right to be there,

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<v Speaker 7>and most of us didn't. Weren't paying attention to that.

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<v Speaker 7>We're paying attention to the people that we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>around and no one that was out there what didn't

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<v Speaker 7>believe that we should be out there and that more

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<v Speaker 7>help should be out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Sadly, part of that familiarity with the system this woman

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<v Speaker 4>brought to the team also meant a familiarity with the

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<v Speaker 4>cruel and arbitrary nature of it. Katie says that they

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<v Speaker 4>had to organize for that as well.

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<v Speaker 7>So my friend and I we ended up writing in

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<v Speaker 7>her truck, so in Steve Padia's Senator Padia's assistant truck.

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<v Speaker 7>So we had the opportunity to ask some questions that

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<v Speaker 7>probably everyone out there wanted to know, including the migrants,

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<v Speaker 7>And it was like, what will happen in what's the

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<v Speaker 7>process from here? And how do you know that these

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<v Speaker 7>people are being tended to? And I literally heard her

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<v Speaker 7>on the phone getting as many bodies on the ground

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<v Speaker 7>to start going to those centers where they're being taken

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that they were that that we would

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<v Speaker 7>follow them through the entire process as best possible, monitoring

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<v Speaker 7>their well well cared for, that they were well cared for,

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<v Speaker 7>as well cared for as possible in a system and

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<v Speaker 7>a process like that. Yeah, yeah, but she literally said

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<v Speaker 7>they're going to be busted off and putt in cages

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<v Speaker 7>and that they would do their best to make sure

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<v Speaker 7>that that no one was split up, and that everyone

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<v Speaker 7>was fed, showered, and they weren't allowed to bring anything

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<v Speaker 7>with them, So a lot of the cleanup was all

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<v Speaker 7>of the things that everyone donated that had to be

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<v Speaker 7>left behind, including some of the stuffed animals.

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<v Speaker 4>For all the volunteers I spoke to, the chance to

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<v Speaker 4>be of service was empowering. Here's Natalie discussing that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, like and so many times do you

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<v Speaker 3>like feel overwhelmed with like so much suffering in this world,

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<v Speaker 3>and like what can one person do?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And so it did feel good that to actually see

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<v Speaker 3>an immediate impact, like I'm doing this and this is

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<v Speaker 3>a result, because sometimes you can just get discouraged, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're just one person.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we really do and can we really make

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<v Speaker 2>an impact?

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<v Speaker 3>And just seeing that and being able to see directly

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<v Speaker 3>how that one person can impact, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, can rally.

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<v Speaker 3>Like just seeing how my friends came together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>went shopping, bought things, gathered money, collected money. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>my really good friend Sam, she went to her local

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<v Speaker 3>bar after she collected a bunch of money, went and

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<v Speaker 3>dropped stuff supplies off at my house. She was just

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<v Speaker 3>down at her local bar and just chatting with them

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<v Speaker 3>and like, oh, what did you do today, And so

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<v Speaker 3>she told them, oh, I collected money and I bought

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<v Speaker 3>supplies and the people She ended up collecting about two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred more dollars at the bar from people hearing her story.

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<v Speaker 3>And so then the next day she went and bought

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<v Speaker 3>more supplies and she actually ended up driving them out herself.

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<v Speaker 3>She ended up doing like three trips just from her

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<v Speaker 3>own talking to people and collecting. So just like the

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<v Speaker 3>little impact that, you know, everyone just kind of coming

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<v Speaker 3>together and making a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>Santa Sedro, a pretty diverse range of San Diegan's came

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<v Speaker 4>to help. On the first night. I personally left at

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<v Speaker 4>about one in the morning, after spending almost two hours

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<v Speaker 4>trying to leave but needing to get charged phones back

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<v Speaker 4>to their owners by loudly in Spanish and French, then

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<v Speaker 4>English describing the backgrounds on the phone or the color

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<v Speaker 4>of their case. It wasn't a great system, and by

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend, Cabra and others had seen that more help

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<v Speaker 4>an organization was needed and they decided to plan a response.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's cable describing how they prepared for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Abe. I'll just grabs, you know, I was paying attention

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<v Speaker 5>to people I knew who were doing and what supplies

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 5>they were saying was needed. The particular store near me

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<v Speaker 5>has like a wall of travel size like these giant

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<v Speaker 5>times where you can basically just scoop out one hundred deodorant,

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<v Speaker 5>hands and to paste and things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>CAPA met up with some other members of a local

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 4>mutual aid group. I'll make sure to include donation links

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<v Speaker 4>for all the groups I've mentioned at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>this series, so please make sure to listen right through

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<v Speaker 4>to the end.

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<v Speaker 5>I met up with him and he had just received

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of donations through through mutually networks, so we

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<v Speaker 5>we know even more of a travel size I got

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<v Speaker 5>some Truth Truth hygiene kits and deodorant and UH and

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<v Speaker 5>and a bunch of friends and papers because because the

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<v Speaker 5>kids that are between the walls don't really have actually

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<v Speaker 5>do unfortunately, so so that those were those wren really fast,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we got a whole bunch of bands of

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<v Speaker 5>all those kinds of supplies, and then we just done

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<v Speaker 5>of the break from there.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time they arrived, various organizations had organized areas

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<v Speaker 4>along the wall for different kinds of aid to be

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<v Speaker 4>passed through. Everything clothes to food, to medical supplies and

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 4>toilet paper was piled up, given.

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<v Speaker 5>Out the relations and you know, organizing toilet paper, food,

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<v Speaker 5>everything like that, and people just come up to the

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<v Speaker 5>wall and if their family needed something, they would just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of going to it or ask us if we

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<v Speaker 5>were able to, you know, if there was a common

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<v Speaker 5>language there. So yeah, we just kind of, you know,

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.920
<v Speaker 5>gave things as people needed them. I know that I

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<v Speaker 5>helped give out some of the friends and times of

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<v Speaker 5>paper and those were all those were tons of kids

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<v Speaker 5>all came running over from the whole, all the parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the camp when they heard that there was there

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<v Speaker 5>were toys being given out, So that was it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was heartbreaking, but it was also you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>made me smile to see them smile.

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<v Speaker 4>And the smile because of the need to use c

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<v Speaker 4>BP one and of course they need to stay in

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 4>touch with families back home. There was a conn in

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<v Speaker 4>an overwhelming demand for phone charging. News reporters took phones

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<v Speaker 4>back to charge in their cars. Some people bought charge

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<v Speaker 4>bricks and power strips, and mutual aid groups wrote names

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<v Speaker 4>on the back of the phones using painter's tape and

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<v Speaker 4>sharpie so they wouldn't get separated from their owners. By

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<v Speaker 4>the second day it was a better system, but on

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<v Speaker 4>the first day it was chaos. I let Kber, who

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<v Speaker 4>spent a whole day charging phones, described the system that

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<v Speaker 4>volunteers came up with to mitigate that chaos a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>And obviously they couldn't charge their phones if they're just

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<v Speaker 5>in this kind of desert gap between between the walls

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't have any kind of romanies or anything. So

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<v Speaker 5>we had a system where they would passive phone through

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<v Speaker 5>and we had we went, we would put a piece

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<v Speaker 5>of tape on it with their name and give them

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<v Speaker 5>a piece of tape with their name the same name,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they would give us that if they came

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<v Speaker 5>back to give us the tape back, and we would

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<v Speaker 5>match their names and phone and and that was It

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 5>worked well enough. I mean, it was still an extraordinarily

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 5>chaotic process. I mean we had we always had at

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<v Speaker 5>least one hundred phones on our side of the wallet

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 5>at a given time, and and some people had you know,

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 5>some people have chargers, some people didn't. Some people had

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<v Speaker 5>Android or Samsung or all the iPhones, and some people

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<v Speaker 5>had well adaptors, and some people didn't have the wallet

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<v Speaker 5>ac adapters, so we kind of had to every phone

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<v Speaker 5>that came through was we had to find a way

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<v Speaker 5>to get it, you know, basically chained into the set

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<v Speaker 5>of generators that we had, which was do we have

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<v Speaker 5>power strips and we have to write cables and and

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<v Speaker 5>and we have space on those cables and and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was it was a bit of a puzzle

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<v Speaker 5>the whole time. The only part of it that really

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<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed me was we did overload. Someone brought a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of h USBC power strips and we blew out one

0:23:55.440 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 5>of them, and so there was now eight phones attacked

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<v Speaker 5>that they had to find new spaces for. I was

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<v Speaker 5>I was just frustrated by the situation. And in addition

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 5>that refer to that I think particularly whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened to it, it was chaos, but it was a

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 4>good natured chaos. Over several days that migrants would attained

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<v Speaker 4>in the open with no shelter an inadequate sanitation, just

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<v Speaker 4>about two miles from the discount mall where you can

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<v Speaker 4>buy cheap Ralpherend's shirts if that's your jam. People showed

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<v Speaker 4>up in ever increasing numbers. The American Friends Service Committee

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<v Speaker 4>helped organize volunteers into groups to distribute food, package up

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<v Speaker 4>wet white snacks, medicines, give out tarps, and do just

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<v Speaker 4>about anything else that they could or anything else that

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<v Speaker 4>they could fit to ziploc bags that could be passed

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<v Speaker 4>through gaps in the wall.

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<v Speaker 8>At least.

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<v Speaker 4>People who had been immigrants themselves or who were the

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<v Speaker 4>children of immigrants were notably numerous, and the volunteers I

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<v Speaker 4>spent to one of them with.

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<v Speaker 8>My name is Lon Chai.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm part of Asian Soliday Collective grass with organization here

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<v Speaker 9>in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been I've been coming over here since yesterday.

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<v Speaker 9>I came here around five six yesterday, and then I

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<v Speaker 9>came back through here this morning and been here since.

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<v Speaker 9>I got home at twelve last night and woke up,

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<v Speaker 9>dropped my kid off, and came right back with more supplies.

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<v Speaker 9>I've been reaching out to family, friends and community to

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<v Speaker 9>help donate supplies and things.

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<v Speaker 8>Like that, food, whatever, whatever they may have.

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<v Speaker 9>And I've pretty much been driving around city and collecting

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<v Speaker 9>from from folks that can't make it so I could

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<v Speaker 9>bring it down here myself.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 4>LUNCHI explained to me why it was so important to

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<v Speaker 4>show up my community.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm pretty sure they they they're sympathetic to this because

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<v Speaker 9>I'm coming from I'm a first generation Cambodian American here

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<v Speaker 9>in the US, and when my parents and my family

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<v Speaker 9>fled their country, they went through this as well. So

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 9>somebody somewhere came and provided to support, provided to aid

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 9>the donations.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 8>For them to be able to to make it.

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<v Speaker 9>To America to crossover, and and able to to to

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<v Speaker 9>provide out here for for me growing up out here.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's just I just sympathize with it, with the

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<v Speaker 9>whole thing. I mean, I mean everybody should should should

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 9>feel the same way because somewhere down the line, our

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 9>families went through similar situations. If you're not an indigenous

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 9>then then then your family somewhere down down to history

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 9>went through the same thing.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know that everybody should have a heart for

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 8>this and be able.

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 9>To come down here and and and and donate or

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 9>donate their time or supplies whatever the case may be,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, come out in help.

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 4>He also explained why he feels it's important to encourage

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 4>empathy for refugees.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's it's you have to you have to.

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 9>You have to be keep in mind, there's there's this

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 9>families out here, there's this young children, there's babies. I mean,

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 9>it takes a lot for for for a mother to

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<v Speaker 9>pick up her infant child and to leave where she's

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 9>coming from. So that just says a lot about where

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 9>what's going on, where she's come, for her to trek

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 9>and to go through this, to sit out here and

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 9>coll and stuff, because if she would rather endure her

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 9>endure this and take the risk and the chances that

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 9>means where she's coming from is not as you know,

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 9>if she's willing to take that risk.

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<v Speaker 4>Later that night, I saw an Afghan family come to

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 4>help the other Afghan families. Their kids talk to other

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Afghan kids separated by the border war. They passed crayons

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 4>through the wall and coloring books, and the little daughter

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 4>asked her dad if she could give her watch to

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 4>the Afghan girl being held in the camp. Her dad said,

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 4>of course, I don't record or photograph people's children, certainly

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 4>not without asking, And I wasn't about to interrupt them,

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 4>but it was a very sweet moment. The father of

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 4>the family had worked in the Army Corps of Engineers.

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 4>He'd been to the border before to build this section

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<v Speaker 4>of the wall. I didn't really need to ask him

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 4>how it felt to see folks stuck behind it, but

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 4>it said a lot that he and his family had

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 4>taken the time to drive down, buy bags and supplies

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 4>and then come face to face with the people who

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 4>needed them and hand them out. Like dozens of other folks,

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 4>they tried to pass whatever they could through little gaps

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 4>in the war to make someone's day a little bit brighter.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Another volunteer who we heard from yesterday came from a

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 4>local group called Pana. Hermira had been at the wall

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 4>since five in the morning and it was getting on

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 4>for five pm when we spoke. I normally ask people

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 4>what they ate for breakfast, just to tune in the

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 4>volume levels on the recorder a bit, but I'm going

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 4>to include it this time, just so you can see

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 4>how long her day had been and how hard she've

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 4>been working.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, do you know what do you want me say? Second?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you have a breakfast again.

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 10>I don't remember anymore French shast FRESD shosts, but my

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 10>name is Harmira Yusafi and I'm with a partnership for

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 10>the Advancement of New Americans PANA, or an organization in

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 10>San Diego that fights for the full inclusion of refugees

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 10>and those who come from refugee producing countries.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 4>We spoke about the emergency that had kept her hair

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 4>all day.

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<v Speaker 10>So in terms of this morning, I mean I was.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 10>I was very concerned because there was an asylum seeker

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 10>who had an emergency and was rushed out of this place.

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 10>Where now, like for example, where we are at right now,

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 10>is people who are being detained and the most inhumane

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 10>way possible. This is going against TBP's own protocols and

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 10>policies as to how they're being detained with No they're

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 10>not giving them food, they're not giving them bathrooms, they're

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 10>not giving them basic basic things that they need to survive.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 10>And so that's why the community is out here today

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 10>to do that.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Sadly, not everyone who showed up at the makeshift detention facility.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 4>We're showing up in solidarity. Local anti migrant activists and

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 4>blogger Roger Ogden showed up.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Ogden might be familiar to some listeners due to his

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 4>attempts to host he called a Patriot picnic and his

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 4>advocacy for the removal of the historic murals in Chicken

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 4>on A Park often organized gatherings in the park in

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, and they resulted in a

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 4>huge and overwhelming community response to defend the park, and

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 4>this time Olden decided to keep to himself, but Natalie

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 4>ran into some people who weren't quite as shy about

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 4>their opinions.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of the people in the community

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>are you know, lower income. You know, they are struggling

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 3>in their own struggle on their and so I know,

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe I don't know, it's like for those people,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like, yeah, it's hard.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, towards the end, like when I was walking

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>to my car, this man, this man in a car

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>like pulled up and he's like, excuse me, what's going

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>on over there? And I was like, Oh, we're gathering

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, somepplies for the asylum seekers. And then I

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, like, if you're from here, you kind of

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>if you're in Hookumba, you kind of already knew what

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 3>was going on, and so him asking me that, I

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like, m and then he just started

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 3>laying into I've had illegals, you know, have broken into

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 3>my house a few times.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Why are you supporting illegals?

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, we're trying to, let like make sure

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>that people don't die, and he just kept going off

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 3>on me, and so he you know, the whole.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>All the talking points that people have about not.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Allowing people to seek asylum here, and so I just

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 3>walked away.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Maurica didn't run into the same kind of vocal opposition,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>but she said in her conversations and attempts to process

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 4>everything she'd seen, she ran into some of the sort

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 4>of need JC responses. So people can only really make

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 4>about immigration when they haven't looked the cruelty that they're

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 4>advocating for in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me a little while to kind of work

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>through just how I felt about it on an emotional,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe a spiritual level.

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I spoke with family and friends about it, about my experience,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and and it's it's difficult to I found it difficult

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to explain my experience because I don't know that somebody

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>can really truly understand that unless they've actually been out

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>there and done it themselves, because the arguments or or

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of debate, so to speak, what they would

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>come back at me with when I was sharing that is,

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>but we don't have enough food or housing to be

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>able to support that many people coming in. And I'm like,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>but we just had so many people and so much

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>money put out there to help in a very short

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of time. Look how many donations were donated, how

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>much money was contributed in a short amount of time

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>from not that many people. I'm like, obviously we do

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>have the money, Obviously we do have the food, So

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>where's the where's the breakdown? Like, is it our system

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that just doesn't allow for that happened? I don't know,

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and that that's where like I don't I don't understand

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it enough.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It just made me realize that I don't know that

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody that I spoke to afterward really understands it enough,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>either because their arguments or they're a defense and what

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they tried to share on the opposite side of me

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>going out there and supporting just felt like it was

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>just something to say, you know, and like what they

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what they hear from the general media out there, and

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they also don't really they can't quite grasp it, so

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of throwing something out there I guess

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>is what it felt like.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Kaiba also ran into some less and charitable San Diegans,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 4>this time down the sant Asiedra.

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so, I guess my first part it is why

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 5>they might have or how they might have found us there,

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 5>which is there's a a local news organization San Diego

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 5>called Harisai, which is kind of a I would describe

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 5>as a local equivalent of something like one American News,

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 5>which is really unfortunate because we already have more American

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 5>news here. Uh, but they are are pretty well known

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 5>for kind of a lot of like misinformation, kind of

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 5>scared mondering about and has people immigrants, vaccines and and

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 5>all that sort of sort of thing, but with kind

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 5>of a local news sort of aesthetic to it. And

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 5>they were, as far as I could tell, they were

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 5>really the only ident of able media that were there

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 5>throughout the day. I read articles eventually that made me

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 5>realize there were other reporters there that they were identifying

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 5>themselves the way that Hasy was, but they sided it

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 5>was one cameraman just shooting b role, I guess, and

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 5>he walking to all the different parts of the wall

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 5>and like all the different sort of stations for aid

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 5>and like trying to really trying to get as many

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 5>faces as possible they could.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 8>Kind of have that.

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 5>That's like what he was doing. Everyone who I was around,

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 5>I was I was kind of you know, oriented mostly

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 5>with kind of the like sort of like anartists between people.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 5>And you know, when they saw the lame aside track,

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 5>they were like, okay, when it's their masking, you know,

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 5>and I killing in ninety five with me so where

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 5>and I am I don't you know, slightly identifying logo

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 5>on my struct shirt which I take over so that

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, that image wouldn't show up Now.

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Kus I have drifted further and further right since twenty twenty.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Along with their relatively miniscule viewership. These days, they engage

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 4>in fake news culture war stuff, like repeating the recent

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 4>false accusations that Target was making tuckable swimming costumes for kids,

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 4>or labeling everyone in the asylum process illegal immigrants. It's

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 4>sadly pretty standard for writing news organizations now. Kayle thinks

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 4>that some of the people who saw footage on k USI,

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 4>or perhaps found the location posted on Obten's blog, came

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 4>down to the border.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 5>Like several hours later. That's like when we started to

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 5>see people you know, kind of went buy and and

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 5>and we could tell that they weren't volunteers, because like

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 5>when people who are like playing people who weren't even

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 5>necessarily voluneer, which weren't buy and so like, hey, I

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 5>just heard watching on. I brought a piace of water

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 5>and they bring it the water and then they drive away.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 5>But the people who are doing who are like cute

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>where I think, you know, kind of do some kind

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 5>of intimidation where you know, they wouldn't approach directly. They

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 5>would just kind of get out of their exceptionally large

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 5>estuvies and and just kind of just kind of watch

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 5>and they would kind of, you know, get a little

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 5>bit closer at a time, and then you know a

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 5>little bit closer and kind of whispered to each other

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 5>and you know, pointed things, and you know, it's just

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of that they were just watching, and you know,

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 5>they got post enough that I could read their shirts,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 5>and and the shirts had a slogan that's associated with

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 5>a Christian nationalism slogan, so as this whole family is

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of kind of sad that the kids were wearing

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 5>the shirts too, and and so I kind of yah,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 5>I figured out that that's what was going on. And

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 5>I never talked to them. I didn't approach them, but

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 5>I stood when I was, you know, something to get

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 5>close with this or I kind of positioned myself in

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 5>between the rest of the volunteers and in this group

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 5>and and just kind of you know, didn't really start

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 5>at them, just kind of looked at them and and

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 5>just made it clear with my body language that I,

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 5>like I knew, you know, they were doing like they

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 5>weren't you know, they weren't doing any kind of secret

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 5>agent thing or whatever, like they were being really really obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would just you know, stood and position myself

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<v Speaker 5>in a way that I pated that you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>know what you're doing, and you're not going to get close.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not going to interfere with you know, what we're

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<v Speaker 5>doing here. You're not going to contact to any wine

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<v Speaker 5>or you thrill anyone or whateveryone did. And eventually one

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<v Speaker 5>of the people who is either volunteer or work for,

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<v Speaker 5>like one of the engineers, can definitely tell there's something

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<v Speaker 5>going on, so she went over and had a conversation

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 5>with them that I couldn't hear, and eventually they decided

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<v Speaker 5>to move, and I think she was just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>trying to be diplomatic, but just sort of like asked

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 5>them if they wanted to help, and if they don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to help, and you know, yeah, go be somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose, And and it was I mean, the sort

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<v Speaker 5>of one amusing part of people like that was that

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 5>they apparently complained to this person about me because they

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<v Speaker 5>said that I had been watching them and I was

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<v Speaker 5>I was racially profiling them because they were white. And

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<v Speaker 5>I realized now that this is an aroundous interview, but

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<v Speaker 5>just for the listeners, I am very very white myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important when we discuss volunteering to honor

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<v Speaker 4>how hard this kind of experience could be on people. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>the trauma is associated with seeing people brutalized by the

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<v Speaker 4>state and capital. It's not the same as being brutalized

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<v Speaker 4>by state and capital yourself. But that doesn't mean it's easy.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked Nathlete to reflect a little on children's toys

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>we found in the shelter when we were cleaning up

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<v Speaker 4>the camp, like.

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<v Speaker 3>As a mom, like I have my own children, and

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<v Speaker 3>it just really it was emotional. It's like it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm like, who's who? What child was playing with this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know here in this space, and you know that

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<v Speaker 3>no child should be ever in, you know, an encampment

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<v Speaker 3>like that or it just no one should be living outside,

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 3>no one should be doing that. But also it's like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like the humanity in a way like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, even a child's going to play wherever child's

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<v Speaker 3>going to play, and like that little toy of little

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully it brought that kid some joy in that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if it was there a little piece of

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<v Speaker 3>home or someone gave it to him or what, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was yeah, the reality, it was like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a person, you know, like a little artifact of

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<v Speaker 3>someone who was actually there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like it was a little more tangible than

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a sock.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's not that's not I'm not think you

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<v Speaker 3>know who wore that sock? But thin give who who

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 3>was playing with that doy? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a little boy, a little girl? Hold? Were

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<v Speaker 2>they did they bring up home? Are they missing it?

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<v Speaker 2>When they?

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<v Speaker 3>When I saw they have that, she needed people to

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<v Speaker 3>clean up. It was like, Okay, I took a day

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<v Speaker 3>off of work and went out there and just felt

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<v Speaker 3>overwhelming almost. I mean, just one day of me working

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 3>out there was really emotional. I can't imagine how you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Melissa and all the people that were on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>just dealing with it, and I know they're just struggling

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit and just processing it all has been

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<v Speaker 3>really hard, you know, really hard. It's just just just

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<v Speaker 3>how how privileged we are. You know, like no one

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 3>leaves their country because they want to. They leave because

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 3>they have to, but they feel like they have to.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's I mean, it's respecting and honoring

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<v Speaker 3>and understanding the privilege that you're in and not taking

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<v Speaker 3>for granted because it's very easy to both.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie Marisa said they don't really identify as political and

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<v Speaker 4>that they wanted to be there as people. Sometimes often

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 4>politics can become a complicated game of numbers and statistics.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's important to remember that what this is really

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<v Speaker 4>about is organizing in such a way that we can

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<v Speaker 4>take care of one another, and that the most important

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<v Speaker 4>politics of war is the politics of feeding hungry people

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe bringing a sad child of stuffed animal. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>Katie talking about the community response.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I'm a really compassionate person and I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>very political in the sense that like I don't really participate.

0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 7>My life in my community's life is solution oriented. So

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<v Speaker 7>I saw like that on a large scale, the like

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 7>when people come together, we create solutions when and you

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<v Speaker 7>don't wait for someone like the government to show up

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<v Speaker 7>and fix it, because then people will die. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean that's the reality is if that community didn't activate,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 7>there would have been a lot of dead people in

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<v Speaker 7>the desert.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie shared with me that she's been having a difficult time,

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<v Speaker 4>feeling guilty for not having the language skills to do

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 4>more and questing her own worthiness to be their helping

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<v Speaker 4>But in the end, she said she felt that what

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<v Speaker 4>she'd done was right and important. I'll leave you with

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 4>her thoughts and tomorrow I'll be back to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the people who put everyone in this situation in the

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<v Speaker 4>first place, the Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 7>I think an important thing is like so many times

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 7>we hear about things and we say, isn't that awful,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 7>and we kind of shut down because we don't feel

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 7>empowered or we don't know how to help. And literally

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 7>a smile makes a difference, a feeling of like I

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 7>see you and you belong on this planet makes a difference.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:38.879
<v Speaker 7>And you know, little kids packing up canned goods and

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 7>fruit snacks for other little kids. They didn't see those kids,

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 7>but when the adults said they're going to be so

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 7>happy to get that package, they felt like they made

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<v Speaker 7>a difference. And those little girls are gonna grow up

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<v Speaker 7>and not be afraid to step up and make a difference.

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<v Speaker 7>I think a lot of people think like they can't

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<v Speaker 7>do enough, so they don't do anything. And if we

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<v Speaker 7>all just do a little bit or what you can,

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<v Speaker 7>then I think we would see a very large impact.

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<v Speaker 7>Hakamba is a town of five hundred and they just

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<v Speaker 7>fed thousands, house thousands, closed thousands, hugged and welcomed thousands

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 7>of human beings. And those people in that town don't

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<v Speaker 7>have much excess, and they made a difference.

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<v Speaker 10>And I was.

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<v Speaker 7>Proud to be a part of that community in a

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<v Speaker 7>way that I'm on the fringe of it, and it

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<v Speaker 7>made me want to be even more a part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>My feelings an intuition about that town, we're confirmed by

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<v Speaker 7>watching the simplest action make an incredible impact on real

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 7>lives and real people, and that this isn't demographics it's

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 7>real bodies that have breating hearts and breathe and we

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 7>all share the same air in the same water, and

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 7>we're all connected. And when you make one little drip

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<v Speaker 7>in the bucket, it actually does make a difference. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think that stops us sometimes when we think what

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<v Speaker 7>we have isn't enough to give, but when someone has nothing,

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<v Speaker 7>what you have is more than what they can imagine.

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