WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Eric Roberson Part 1 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:10.120 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:10.440 What's Up? 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:10.880 What's Up? 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.680 This is your host, Quest Love of Quest Love Supreme. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.960 How y'all been doing? I hope y'all been doing fine. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.640 So we're doing it a little bit different this year. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:26.600 We're recording some special QLs episodes this season, and in 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.640 order for you guys to get more familiar with anyone 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.080 on this show who's not me, which is always a 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.000 good thing in my opinion, I decided that I wanted 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.360 each member of the Supreme team to get their own 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.720 rogue episode and interview and do sort of a one 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.120 on oneish. And we kicked it off, of course with 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.560 Sugar Steve with his dream interview, his epic two part 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.800 conversation with Elvis Costello, and they recorded at Electric Lady Studios. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.800 One of the first in person QLs episodes, it's the 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.280 Pandemic back in March of twenty twenty. So this particular 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.399 go round, we are passing the microphone, if you will, 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.160 to our brother Fontigelo. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.560 Fontigolo, what's up man? Yes, indeed, what's up man? Congratulations. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.760 It's the first one since. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.319 Right, it's the big whim everything that's right changed. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:27.640 Yes, everything, the price is going up. Yesterday's price is 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.240 not today's price. I love it. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:31.040 Yeah. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:36.160 So similar to sugar, Steve Fonte's guest is a gentleman 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.720 that he has worked closely with, actually that I've actually 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.319 collaborated with as well. And this particular Quest Love Supreme 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.960 guest is none other than mister Eric Roberson. And he's 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:54.240 Grammy nominated singer, songwriter, producer and music industry og. And 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.760 I just want to welcome him. Please welcome him to 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:57.720 Quest Love Supreme. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.160 What's up, Eric, honor to be on here, man, congratulations 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:02.840 as well, first chance to get to tell you that 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:04.760 I appreciate you'all having me on here. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.160 I'm kind of hello jealous of your background right now. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.320 His zoom, I think it's only second to Will Smith's zoom. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.480 Yes you will Will zoom was like that ship looked 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.240 like hggd. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.440 Yeah, you look like you're in the Garden of Eden 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.160 right now. Like what does this represent? This particular background. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.240 This, this background is part of just my basement and 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.480 what I've learned during the pandemic. Man, I wass doing 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.680 virtual shows. I teach class sitting here as well. I 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.040 got I got sound effects and all kind of you know, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:38.560 all kind of stuff here. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.680 Uh you know, I love it, you know, whatever we do. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.120 Yeah, yeah, before so before you got on, before you 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.000 came home with me, he was talking to us, and 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.760 he's gonna be the one to kind of help us 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.040 get roll called back because he got some tools, you know, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:54.080 how to deal with it. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.799 No latency, yes, yes, yeah, so there's several different things 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.080 that we can get fixed. But yeah, I told Laya, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.040 let's let's talk and tim because when the first pandemic started, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.040 the first thing I started doing, I made the album. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.920 But the second thing I did was like how do 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.320 we do shows? And then I probably spent shouts with 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.560 my boy DJ Molski in La, probably about a month 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.320 or two months, standing up all night just trying to 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.800 all those things figure out. Latency, figure out like looping 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.320 things back, like playing things from a computer, hearing it 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.639 and then sending it back into the web. All that stuff. Man, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.680 we crashed and burned on it. So yeah, let's let's talk. Afterwards, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.440 I got. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:37.000 Forget the interview. Let's talk now. Now I'm gonna leave 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.200 y'all to it again. Thank you very much for doing this, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.720 And I hit it fante Yo. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.720 All right, man, so listen though, Like I'm sitting here, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.800 and as much as we work together, there are just 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.120 very I think crucial things in your life that me 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.600 and you have never talked about. That's creat Like when 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:56.800 we was on the phone the other day after the 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.360 Fred Hemmert interview and you were telling me about like 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.560 what commission it meant to you, and like how something 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.160 as simple as just seeing gospel singers on an album 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.520 cover with jeans on. Yeah, you know, for you know, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.840 for even like me, that was nothing, you know what 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:17.400 I mean? But nah, man, yeah, talk about you know 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.800 how you got started, Like what was your first kind 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:20.920 of introduction into music. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.560 My dad plays guitar and sings. My sister. I have 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.800 an older sister, my sister Alisha, lovely, and and you know, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.160 I think all my introduction really started from that just 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.560 being a little brother. Had to follow her around and 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.560 she was the one who actually had a band in 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.880 high school and then she did theater and was making 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.760 clothes and all kinds. So whatever she was doing. As 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.880 the little brother, I went to the piano lessons, I 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.080 went to dance recitals, I went into the theater classes, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.160 went to her band rehearsals, and I think a lot 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.480 of it just rubbed off on me. Of course, were 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.320 singing at church on Sunday, we got choir two days 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.000 out the week or whatever you choir, mergency choir, whatever 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.839 we was, whatever were in and of course then of 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.599 course you know we we boomed backing on the on 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.479 the cafeteria table with our friends, freestyle rhyming, dreaming of 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.479 being utfo or whoever. So I mean, you know, I mean, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.080 I'm from Jersey. It's just like a I was born 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.160 in New York, but I was raised in Rawway. Yeah, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.800 And and I think just when it came time to 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.520 do music, like what do you do? Like you know, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.279 it's like do you do guys with music? Do you 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.560 do house music? Do you do rap? Do you do 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:26.640 R and B? Do you know? 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.200 I was really struggling with that. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.719 But I will tell you that, you know several moments 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.279 that was really impactful for me. I remember when like 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.880 going through my dad's vinyl and realized that this was 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.119 somebody's job, like somebody they do this for a living. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.520 Like I remember taking Stevie Wonder record like so he 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.160 wrote this stuff and like he call he put this 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.560 together like okay, this is a job. I couldn't tell 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.760 how old I was, but I remember that being really impactful. Like, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.680 I know, my dad goes to work. This person goes 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.960 to work and they do this right, you know. And 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.720 my dad would come home and pick the guitar. But 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.360 we had a guitar like in every room. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:05:58.800 You know. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.520 But your dad did he have personal did he have 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.440 like aspiration of being a professional musician or was it 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.080 just like a hobby, just something he did, just. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.159 A hob just a relief. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.800 Just really I think when my dad and my dad 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.719 was kind of late in joining the church. When he joined, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.919 he joined, you know, he became a powerhouse in that 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.320 in that church as a vocalist. My whole family was 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.919 in the church before, mind you, my grandfather as a pastor. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.719 My dad's brothers were pastors, my mom's brothers were all deacon. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.279 So everyone had found church before my dad. My dad 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.000 was very reluctant when he found it. Boy, he founded, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:34.280 you know. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.120 And I remember telling me. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.839 I think it isn't like some of your people. I 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.960 think it is your grandfathers. Like don't you have some 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.120 times in North Carolina? I think either your mom and 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:43.479 dad to. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:44.840 My mom and dad. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.680 My mom and dad are both from uh from North Carolina. Yeah, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.360 so a town called Greenville and a little town called 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.360 Stokes is where my family my family. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.880 Greenville, North Carolina, and Stokes, North Carolina. You know. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.400 So yeah, and everybody's still there for the most part. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.039 I had, you know, some family on my mom's side 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.960 moved up north when when my parents relocated, came up 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.120 north and some of that, but for. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.120 The most part, most of my family's in North Carolina. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:12.200 Yeah. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.200 So when I first heard a commission we won, I 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.240 think my parents got a tape, a commission tape from 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.680 the family reunion, and I was ironing my clothes and 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.000 I put the tape and I was like, oh, I'll 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.520 just put this tape and listened to some music. I 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.480 didn't know what it was, right, I didn't even catch 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.400 the album cover yet, but I remember I was ironing 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.800 my clothes and I just looked down and my clothes 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.160 are wet, like there was drops of wetness on my 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.400 on my clothes, and I didn't realize that I had 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.760 started crying on my clothes. I'm probably like twelve eleven, twelve, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.760 thirteen years old, and the music was like punching me 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.640 in the chest, like you literally punched me in the chest. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:55.840 I remember this day like it was, Yes, said, I 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.920 remember I saying whatever that is, like point at the 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.280 point at the radio, like whatever that is. Want to 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.240 do that, Like I want to do whatever that is. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.520 Because it was the most impactful moment. And from that 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.560 moment on, I was like, all right, learn everything I 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.560 can about commission, learned everything I can about who's this 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.720 for him? Guy, I'll learned everything I can about him. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.320 And uh and then like I said, you know, up 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.680 to that point, just keeping really one hundred. You know, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.800 a young kid growing up at church. You had an 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.600 excuse when you see I'm not even about the name church. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.880 People that might not have came off so cool. They 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.160 sounded great, but they didn't come. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.960 Off so who. They were always like three four years 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.040 behind what was going on. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.840 Hey, you have to be in the church because you 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.960 kind of corny. You know, you can't, you can't be 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.200 in the clubs. Maybe that's why you that's why you 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.720 singing this, because clearly if you wasn't in his corn 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.319 he maybe you be singing with guy and singing the 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.199 comminisip came out, they had gumbies and jeans on they 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.360 look like they looked fly And I was like, why 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.680 they singing this? There must be something impactful to and 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.400 plus it already kind of blew me away and stuff 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.200 like that, and it was, it was, It was a 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.160 really monument thing. But it really more strengthened my pen 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.640 game and made me say, like, really write something true 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.920 that could be penetrating to somebody. And I think that 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.000 was the first, like first time I got on that 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.280 course of doing that. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.480 Man, I want to talk to you, or wanted you 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.240 to talk about your parents. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.560 I mean, you know me and you we been you know, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.840 we go back. God let me shit, it's almost twenty 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.880 years at this point. You know what I'm saying. But 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.960 you know, man, your parents. You know, I just in 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.440 the time that we work together, and I will always 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:36.079 see your parents always there like supporting you, helping you, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.920 you know what I mean, pulling up its shows your 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.120 dad and I don't even know if we ever talked 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:42.839 about this. I know I've never talked about this public. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.040 But the day that we shot the picture Perfect video, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.160 when we shot the Picture Perfect video and in Brooklyn, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:51.719 I don't even know, if me and you ever talked 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.960 about this, this is one of the worst days of 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.160 my life. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:59.480 We have not talked about this. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:05.920 Wow, Okay, okay, bro listen. So that morning I flew 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.200 into Philly and then because we were shooting in Brooklyn, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.240 so I flew into Philly and your dad came and 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.120 picked me up from the airport. So this is like, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.720 oh God, maybe we shot it on like a They 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.480 say we shot on like a Friday or something. I 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.800 don't know, but anyway, we shot it on a Friday. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.560 And literally I think that Tuesday that was when my 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:30.520 divorce started. That was when, like me and my you 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.880 know period, we separated. So the day of that picture 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.839 perfect video shoot, I am a fucking wreck. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:39.120 I do. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.560 As as much as I had, as much as I 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.200 wanted to do it, and as you know, as much 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.960 as I love everybody involved. Man, that shit was a wreck. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.920 But I was riding in the car with your dad. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.720 Your dad came and picked me up from the airport 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.720 and then he took us to Brooklyn where the shoot was, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.360 and so we were sitting in the car, bro and 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.400 you know, and your dad is me Pops is Pops. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.800 He was a going on young man, what's happening. Let's 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.560 talk about you know, he's just on and I just 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.760 broke down crying and he was just like yo, He's like, man, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.800 you hight And I never forget this. I asked him myself. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.719 I said, I said, look, I just got to ask you. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.040 I said, you know, have you ever you know, thought 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.920 of a time where can you ever remember ever thought 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.280 you know, in all your years of you know, being married, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.640 he ever thought that like marriage maybe wasn't for you. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.440 And he was like, he said, oh that's strong. He said, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:31.280 that's tough right there. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.400 Why do you go to a science bro? 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.719 I never forget the ship loongs I lived. So I 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.880 was like, damn, He's like, oh that's tough right there. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.760 And I never get He gave me some of the 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.160 most like timeless, just most perfect advice that has been 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.480 just like a guiding like you know for everything, you 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.160 know what I mean, just in my career and just 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:55.840 you know, whenever I have to make tough decisions. And 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.680 he just said, he said, well listen, man, he said, look, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.480 no matter what you choose, no matter what decision you make, 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.160 it's going to be the right decision because it's your decision. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:08.600 God Lee. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.679 No matter what decision you make, it's gonna be the 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.240 right decision because it's your decision, because it's your decision, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.400 so much like that man bro. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.880 So yeah, so that was so that was My life 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.280 was changed in like an hour and a half ride 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.679 with this guy. What impact did your parents have on 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.080 your You'll speak to the impact on you as. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.640 A First of all, why why did you fly to Philly? 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.000 Why did you fly in Philly? We shot in New York. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.640 I think I can't remember what it was. I think 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.280 we were because I think you're if I'm not mistaken, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.480 I think your parents were bringing your clothes or something. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.240 They had to drive up to Brooklyn anyway, so I 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.800 think it just made sense. It was like, all right, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.280 just flying to Philly and not just ride up with pops. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.800 I think that was the logic. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.760 But you know, even before I even answer your question, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.440 the interesting thing is, maybe the reason why you flew 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.040 into Philly is because you needed that time, had that conversation. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.800 Reasons amazing how things work out. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.760 But you know, it's, first of all, I've been very 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:13.440 fortunate to have the most amazing parents in the entire world, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:18.280 just the most supportive, supportive, parents from day one to 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.920 just even today, you know what I mean, Like just 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.880 really And that answer is so funny. I always joke 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.520 to say that my dad has never given me a 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.720 straight answer ever in life, right. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:29.320 My dad. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.920 So when I walk to my dad, I'm like, you know, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.360 heartbroken out of what say, Dad? But did you ever 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.679 go through whatever his answers are, usually that answer is 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.800 so him, whatever decision you make is going to be 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.560 the right decision because your decision right. So so, for example, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.840 my dad's a junior and he was hell being on 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.800 making sure I wasn't the third reason why. He's like, yo, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.479 I need you to go your own path. And and 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.160 so Fiver said, like, Dad, you like this outfit? He'd 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.679 be like do you like that outfit? He's like he 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.560 never just goes yeah, it's dope. Not It was my 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.960 entire time of knowing my dad, not one time. Dad, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.240 you like this hat? I love the hat? Keep rocking. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.480 He'd be like, Dad, you like this hat? Are you 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.559 wearing it? How does it fig you feel? You know? 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.560 Going the way that hat? 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.240 Right? It's like, what the But what I did notice 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.920 is that throughout my life when I go back and 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:25.000 like reflect back on the life. He would never give 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.720 me an answer, he'd never give me a direction, but 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.320 he was always like little nudge, Okay, he's a little 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.840 off clothes. No answer, but nudging back again. Like it 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.160 was just putting up, putting up guard rails, putting up 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:41.440 guardrails throughout my entire life, through all the failed record deals, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.360 throughout you know, the tough times, trying to struggle going 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.240 back to college and whatever. And my mom was more 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.120 like the I remember when I had left school, you know, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.160 I did the Warner Brother's thing and I went to 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.240 the Island Records and I was out of school for 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.600 like a year and a half. My mom was like, so, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.560 what's up with the record deal? And I was like, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.560 I think it kind of dried up. She like, you know, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.280 you got your scholarship still, right, You need to go 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:06.920 to a building like listen. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:07.680 So I went. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.680 I went there the next time and they didn't like 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.360 offer the scholarship. They were like, I was like, my 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.200 I went back and it was like they were like 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.400 nobody was like bringing it back up. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.320 She said, you need to go in there. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.880 You need to sing, you need to sign sign autographs, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.840 you need to hug every single person and you need 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.440 to do whatever you need to do. But when you 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.560 walk out of a building, that scholarship needs to be back. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.280 And I was like, okay, cool, I walk back. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.720 I love you. You know you give me a singature 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:34.960 bar miss for whatever. It's like. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:35.640 Meet. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:36.520 Yeah. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.640 So she was she would be the one who was like, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:40.760 you know, I'm gonna give you some direction, this is 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.080 what you need to do, you know whatever, whatever, And it. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.320 Was the perfect. They're the perfect. I tell you that. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:50.920 The two most impactful moments in my childhood my mom 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.480 when I was I think a freshman of high school. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.880 I remember her coming home and she had quit her 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.200 corporate America jobs she worked for AT and T and 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.120 she was like, I can't do it no more or 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.440 I'm done so on, I'm just unfulfilled. I'm done with it. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:05.960 I remember he wasn't talking to she were talking to 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.800 my dad and he was like, okay, all right cool. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.120 And she equit her job to start a business in fashion. Wow, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.200 And that was really important, like I own my own business. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.080 My sister owns her own business now. And I think 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.160 it comes from that day to my mom exactly. But 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.680 then the other part was I think like the next 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.280 day my dad had this Lincoln mox seven white with 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:33.560 a blue rag top, sweet gorgeous car, and the next 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.640 day he put a full sale sign on it and 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.040 it's sold within hours, like somebody drove by and bought it, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.240 like boom, And he went and bought this big, old, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.600 old gray vand to drive my mom's clothes around. So 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.120 it was like the moment was an entrepreneurship and then 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.800 like support your partners. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.880 Yeah, true sacrifice and support. Yeah, that's right. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.360 And I think, you know, I think I'm an example 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.720 of entrepreneurship. But at the same time, you know, I 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.400 if you anybody knows me, and my wife is like, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.440 that's how we I'm driving, she holding the map, she 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.520 dropping holding the map, like all right. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:04.520 This the turn, you know what I mean. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.800 So I'm constantly trying to figure out what's the gray 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.360 van in my marriage, you know what I mean? 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.440 And doing that, and it's it's completely. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.880 Watching watching my parents, you know, give everything to them, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:17.320 you know what I mean. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:18.680 It's enormalcy, supportive. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.399 What I'll tell you, my dad, you know, you know, 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.480 he know by pop everybody calls him pop, and most 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.520 of my friends unfortunately did brow up with dads. You know, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.520 for whatever reason whatever, And my dad was not just 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.080 my dad. My dad was the dad to my community, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.240 to all my up So it's like he earned it up. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.159 He earned that term pop, like to not just in 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.600 high school, not even just college, but then all the 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.000 bands that played from all the musicians that played for me, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.840 all the times, all the cats he picked up from 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.240 the airport or dude might have been going through a 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.879 hard time, you know, he's he's like, for real, if 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.000 anyone's ever earned that term pop, there's one thing to 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.040 be a dad, you know, and he's been a great 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.879 dad to me, but he's been a pop. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.320 To like the music community. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.520 Like these stories I hear all the time because he's 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.879 taking time to invest in everybody. And what's crazy is 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.160 they live ten minutes down the street from me. People 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:19.960 will go see them. They called they come to see 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.000 Pop and Mama come to see Pop, you know what 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.760 I mean. And I think that that speaks vious, you know, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.120 for how amazing they are. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.040 I wanted to go back to one of the things 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.879 that we that I noticed when we first started working together, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.760 particularly when we would do videos together like we did 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.919 Picture Perfect and then we did we are on the 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.760 move and you know stuff, you have a very much 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.639 uh kind of like a a theater presence, you know 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.400 what I'm saying. Like you the thing I noticed when 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.880 we were work is in videos like you use your 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.600 whole body, like you use your hands, you use your 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.639 leg like you do Like I was like, Okay, he's 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.520