1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to Combine Week, presented by Bullseye Event Group. For 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: award winning game day experiences. Visit Bullseye eventgroup dot com. 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by bally bet An, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: responsibly on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Here are your hosts, 6 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura, and. 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Welcome into the special edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. This 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: is Combine Week presented by Bullseye Event Group for award 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: winning game day experiences. Visit bullseyeventgroup dot com and you are, 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: of course listening to Cleveland Browns Daily. We're presented by 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: bally Bete, official sports winning partner of your Cleveland Browns. 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Please bet responsibly on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. It is 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: the combine. This is are special, my friend. The best 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: part of the combine for you. 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Is what going there with you brother same It's the 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: and honestly, you know, like the brotherhood and fellowship it 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: is and it's and I think in a way, while 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: that is a microcosm of it, big picture, that's what 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: it is for the league too. Totally. Yeah, everybody in 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: the league saying Yeah, where the whole league is in 21 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: one spot. It's not the Super Bowl. There's nothing else where. 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: Everybody is represented, and it's in a big city and 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: it is downtown and everybody's walking around. Everything is accessible. 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: Indianapolis is the perfect venue for it. Yeah, but yeah, 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: it's seeing no obviously being with you and Gibbe. Get 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Nobody loves a combine like Gibbe. And you know, we'll 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: have young Gabriel and and doctor j and the people 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: all out there, and yeah, Siciliana will be there, Chris 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: Rose will be there, so all of our our friends 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: and then you know my friends who are in the 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: agent or marketing community, great Sims and you know Don 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: and and Eugene, all those people. It's fun to like 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: see all those people and you know, you go to 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: the bars, you run into we've now that we've been here, 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: and guess what, there'll be another familiar face that is 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: elsewhere now is Kevin Stefancy will be there and we'll 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: get to seek him, you know, and so that's like 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: that's kind of the fun part is seeing everybody from 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: the NFL that you've become friends with, and you know, 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: at this point, you know, like Daniel Jeremiah is the 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: guy that I always love to see because we talked 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 3: obviously drafts up brown stuff, but you know, we talked 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: a little bit about color commenting. He does it chargers 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: on the radio, and so it's just fun to see 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: those guys. Yeah, large Sell are so money. Co Sell 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: is the legend. Yeah, I gotta see we gotta find 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: out what his his program is. That was one of 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: the great parts of in Philly when we got to 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: have dinner with the great co Cell. That was you, guys. 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: I did not why not? Where were you? I don't 51 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: know where I was. I don't. I don't think I 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: went to dinner with you that night. It was me Ceciliano. Yeah, 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: that was the last night we were there. 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: No, I had I had the radio crew in town 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: and they were all like, hey, let's go on. I'm like, 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: this is and this is this is week two. 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: Have you made it to the you made it to 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: the tie place, which was very good. No, No, So 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm excited. And there is Charles Davis go 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: on and on all the people that we get to 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: see and who stop by, and we have a lot 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: of fun with you find out a lot about the league, 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: you find out a lot about you know, how tall 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: people are on steps at restaurants. You can find out 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: a great many things there. So yeah, I love It's 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: just it's the camaraderie. It is. It's like there aren't 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: rides to go on, but it's kind of like football 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Disneyland in the sense that everywhere you go there's an 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: attraction or a person that you're interested in talking to, 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: or somebody that whose brain you're interested in picking, and 71 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: you know, having fun discussions with people like that, I 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: think is is what it's all about. Like last year, 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: I had a conversation. I mean, the Great Costell interview 74 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: is probably when you say, from a professional standpoint, that's 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: the highlight. But you know, we had so many good 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: Pete Lands zero line last year was great, Matt Miller, 77 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: you know, that's that's what's fun about it. But you know, 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: like I got to be in a conversation last year 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: with Charles Davis. It was me, Charles Davis and great 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: Cosal just talking about quarterback play in the league and 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: the evolution of it, and I was just like, this 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: is so cool. Nuts, Yea, this is crazy that I'm 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: getting to do this. So very good there and then hopefully, 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: you know, this year, we're gonna we're gonna get some 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: people in a room together, great co Sell being one 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: of them and somebody else, and hopefully we're going to 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: make some magic happen to that'd be great. 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: That's that's the thing that you I like, you like 89 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: when you think about like the amusement park aspect of it, 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: because there's also and I think this is the most 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: amazing thing that is somehow pulled off there. If you 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: were to paratroop into downtown Indianapolis on Combine Week and 93 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: you had no idea what was going on, you would 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: see the most surreal things like Ron Rivera riding a bird. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like that happens. You'd see just walk it. Well, yes, sure, 96 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: burden all over everywhere. 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: But it's just. 98 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: Amazing to me how they they like it's almost like 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: the downtown is blocked off for anybody who isn't the NFL. Yeah, 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: and you you kind of have this whole downtown to 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: yourself totally as a league. There's nobody else even around. 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: We always say this joke, like when we leave or 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: on one of the days of the show, they're like, 104 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: what happens here on a random Tuesday when we're not here. 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: Is there anybody down here? No, it's so strange. It's 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: so crazy because. 107 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: The surreal moments that the moment you mentioned on the 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: step with Kyler and all that stuff, like those things, 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: that's something can me the prospect sometimes, Like I remember, 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: I for sure, you do. I remember in twenty sixteen, 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: so this will probably be I mean, I know I 112 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: went for sure in fourteen, So fourteen, fifteen sixty, this 113 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: will be my thirteenth combine. 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: That's good grief, that's nuts. Yeah, that's longer than you 115 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: were in school. Maybe we didn't go. Do we not 116 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: go in twenty one? No, there's one year we did 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: not go in twenty one. We went in twenty oh 118 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: yeah we went right before. I'm pretty sure I got 119 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: we had a super spreader event. I think we did. Mind, Yeah, 120 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: I think so. Then this will be my what I say, 121 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: thirteen is my twelfth combine because the one in abstention 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: twelve times. 123 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: That's twenty four times going back and forth on Indiana's 124 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: Finest Friend. 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: Oh you know, I love it. Yeah, Like I remember sixteen, 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: I walked in to get my credential back in. It 127 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: was like a little different to your credential. I walked 128 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: in and there was Jared Goff. Yeah, I obviously I 129 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: had great affection for him more number sixteen played at 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: Cal like all of it, all of it. So we 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: had a nice chat and I'm like. 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: That's that's what That's what I mean though, Like you 133 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: just see those people at restaurants getting breakfast, getting coffee. 134 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: Like they're just there. Jerry's with everybody, Jerry's bus amazing. Yeah, yeah, 135 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: it's really cool. 136 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: And it's I think the other thing big picture from 137 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: the combine and one thing that we learn as we 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: learned some truth, Like you mentioned Kyler in terms of 139 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: his height. Going into that combine, there was not anybody 140 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: who thought that the Arizona Cardinals were drafting a quarterback 141 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: at number one. Nobody thought that because they just had 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: one in Josh Rosen, and everybody assumed that they had 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: hired Cliff Kingsbury to get the most out of Josh Rosen. 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: We were at the combine for thirty minutes and we went, oh, 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: they're taking Kyler. Oh yeah, Tua to Miami remember that 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: one too. I was like, oh, well that's done, He's 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: that's where he's going. Danny Dimes. Danny Dimes was another one, 148 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: justin Herbert. To the Chargers, there were these things. I 149 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: mean even last year going over to the Combine, the 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: consensus was Ward or Sanders, one's going one, the other 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: one's going two. But by the time we left, it 152 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: was like, oh, Ward's definitely going one. Ward is going one, 153 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: but two now is a totally different conversation. Nobody leaving 154 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: the Combine though, thought that should stand for sure. 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: But by the time we left there was some chatter that, 156 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: oh he might not go two overall, right, correct that, 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: And going into it it was they're going one two, yep. 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Coming out of it not. So there's group think that 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: happens over there, and you have perception in your mind 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: on this month that's happened for them, you know, the 161 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: end of the college season until now, and then you 162 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: have the reality of everybody starts talking and you get 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: the group think. 164 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: Well, and we talk about prospects. But remember this is 165 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: the origination of the Odell trade to Cleveland. 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the podium moment is that. 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: The podium going so, hey, give me a call. 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: And then they're in the they're in the suite together 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: watching them. 170 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: And that was later than they were this sea. It 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? Then two weeks later 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: we had Odell Beckham Junior. 173 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, number one ranked sports podcast in the world. It 174 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: was it was we did that daily emergency. Yeah. No, 175 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: so that's all of that stuff. 176 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: I mean, we've had so many fun moments just personally, 177 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: like the very first you were so excited the first 178 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: time you guys both were the first time I got 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: evnada like, and I've I had never seen you consume 180 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: tacos until the first time. I've never seen anything like 181 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: it before or since. On the taco can now defunct, unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, 182 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: there's one in Columbus. 183 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, there was one sin today. Yeah. 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so no nada so that I remember vividly. And 185 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: then I I quite legitimately almost died on the on 186 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: the shrimp cocktail that is. Yes, Uh, there was some 187 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was going to be a 188 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: cardiac arrest. I'm in relatively good health, but there was 189 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: definitely a shock to the system that occurred for me 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: on the shrimp cocktail. 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be nuclear in the building, like I 192 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: have the store bought one and it's still people who 193 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: are not taught accustomed to it. It blows their brains out. 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember I just look at you and 195 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: you were just you couldn't you. You couldn't get my breath. 196 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: The only time it's ever happened was when I had 197 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: that Carolina Reaper sauce at Barrio one time, and it 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: was I just couldn't speak and I had to drink creamers. 199 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: That's your only back together. There's no path out of it, 200 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: no path. So I've learned my lesson. Now when I 201 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: do the shrimp cocktail there, I brush most of the 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: sauce off. 203 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: That first dip was a big boy. Oh my god, 204 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm going fall in, baby, I'm going all in. Yeah. 205 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: But there's so many of those. Yeah, there's so many 206 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: of those moments that are so cool. 207 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: And I remember you were when we saw DK Metcalf. 208 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: You and I were in those days, folks. There was 209 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: the radio row was set up. They had a miniature 210 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: stadium that was set up for the bench press yep, 211 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: and it was adjacent to us, and so we could 212 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: hear that going on and then sometimes see it. If 213 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: you had the right angle, you could you could sometimes 214 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: see it. And so when DK goes to the bench 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: and either set the record or it was something and 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: I can't remember what I just walked. I just remember 217 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: what I remember, and I may be misremembering, but it's 218 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: a better story if I remembered it correctly or if 219 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: I misremembered it. And in this manner, I remember him 220 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: walking out of it, either walking to it or from it. Yes, 221 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: passed us without a shirt on, and I'm like, this, dude, 222 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: is what is going on? It's like a cyborg. I 223 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: know he was nuts. Yeah, yeah, that that was it. 224 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: I think that was coming out of it and he 225 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: and he he had the shirt off, and we walked 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: by and we just went, oh okay. And then I 227 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: remember people having a big problem. So he could do 228 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: the three cone. 229 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just fine. Feels like he runs a straight line, 230 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: particularly well, run some deep overs to those work. Yes, 231 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 3: those were fact they do. Yeah, uh so. 232 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think all of those things. It's 233 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: I think it'd be almost like for a kid. It 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: almost has a feeling of a make a wish thing. 235 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: If you just love the business of the NFL, so 236 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: like if you could just have unfettered access totally, it 237 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: would have that. 238 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: It reminds me of when I would get to be 239 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: able to go myself first of all, and then also 240 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: later in my life with my kids when we could 241 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: go backstage at a WWE event. That's a good analogy, 242 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: and you're like, here's everybody that has anything to do 243 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: with this company, from the top to the seamstress of 244 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: the stunt coordinator, the big eie to every wrestler, all 245 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: this back here being normal people walking around, you know, 246 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: in catering doing all this, Like my buddy Vin's cut 247 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: in front of Ricky Steamboat and catering at SummerSlam, and 248 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: it's like you just cut off Ricky Steamboat, Like what're 249 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: you doing? So it's kind of that. It's surreal in 250 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: that respect where it's just like, you know, the shock 251 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: of who you see next, if you're a football junkie 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: would be immense for you. You wouldn't, It would be unlike 253 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: anything that you've ever experienced. I really think I think 254 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: that backstage one and I just popped in my head, 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: But I think that's actually pretty good. You're like, you're 256 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: in a world now, obviously we belong there on Radio Row, 257 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: but we're in a world that you know, people who 258 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: love this game don't often get to be in and 259 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: when you see it, it's pretty pretty cool. Now, some people, 260 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 3: because of the fact that everybody's there, some people at 261 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: the combine get into this ugly habit where you could 262 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: be having conversation with them, but they're just they're constantly 263 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: looking like who else is coming? Who else? Are you 264 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: more important? Are you more important than what about? Yeah? 265 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're doing that. And then you have people 266 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: that are there like to break news, but some of 267 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: them just feel like they have to hold those It's like, 268 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: that's huge story, but I just can't break it, and 269 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: then somehow it doesn't work that he ever breaks the story. 270 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: They never there never was a big story broken by this. 271 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: But we've heard about many stories that he's on the 272 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: cusp of breaking but he's sitting on it. 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: Usually sitting sitting on Yeah, I just I can't break 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: it yet, but I've got it, got that story. What 275 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: is your favorite part about Elmos other than the shrimp cocktail? Like, 276 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: walking through the bar is always great because you just 277 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: run into so many people that are like you just 278 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: walked through that bar. I had one year where I 279 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: think you left for whatever reason, I don't know. Gibbey 280 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: couldn't come. Whatever it was. I ended up eating solo 281 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: at the bar and watching basketball one year, and I 282 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: was like, this is great. I just like the fact 283 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: that it is so old school. It has a vibe 284 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: that you don't get it. Even many steakhouses around the country, 285 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 3: even if they are kind of more old they keep 286 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: it old school. Everybody's in there in the tuxas it's 287 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: white tablecloth. I love that they always have prime rib 288 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: on the menu. I don't love that you have to 289 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: like to me, there's a standard like rare is rare, medium, 290 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: rare is medium, rare, medium is medium, And guess what 291 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: is it a standard? It's universal because it's a link 292 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: to a temperature, which is a number. And they're just 293 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: like trust us, we'd yeah. So if you like a 294 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: medium rare steak or medium rare prime rib, that's how 295 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: you would typically eat it. Cook for yourself. We're talking 296 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: one that range. You've got to get it medium. You 297 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: might even have to get it like medium plus towards well, 298 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: which is an insane thing for somebody who's only eating 299 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: medium rare meat in their whole lives. That's right, but 300 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: you gotta at least order a medium, Yes, I won't 301 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: bring myself to do the medium plus, but that if 302 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: I want to hit what I really want, it probably 303 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: might even be that they're just like their medium rare 304 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: is it's rare raw. Yeah it's rare. I mean it's 305 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: it's a. 306 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: Cold per cool yeah, cool blue. Yeah, it's definitely cool. Yeah, 307 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: it's a crazy. That part is crazy. And you got 308 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: you were like, dude, I'm telling you, and I said, dude, 309 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: I've never ordered medium in my life. 310 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: Same ever, and I only will at ELM only there. Yeah. 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: I love how all the waiters, like some of them 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: have been there thirty plus years. 313 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah we had to do was like, yeah, fifty years 314 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: or something. 315 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Some crazy number. And that they they have it so memorized. 316 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: They never looked down on anything, which is incredible. 317 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: You know. 318 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: The other thing they do that I think is that 319 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: I only have it there. They have a a vanilla 320 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: old fashion that they make there and you can buy 321 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: the bottle of it. You can buy the bottle of it. 322 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, the cola thing that they have, I don't 323 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: get it. I would never order that anywhere else, but 324 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: like they did it there and I enjoy it there. 325 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's say almost cola is famous. 326 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Any of that vanilla, that vanilla old fashioned that you 327 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: could buy it. It's bottled, but it's a little too 328 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: sweet for some reason. In the I have a. 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: Bottle of that cola. It's actually forty proof that cola bottle, 330 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: which as wild to be mixed already. Yeah it is, 331 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: but so that it's that, it's all those little I 332 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: do think their commitment to like a navy bean soup 333 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: is unreal. And I never ordered anywhere, but I did. 334 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: I did get it there, I think last year the 335 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: year before I got it because I'm just like, they 336 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: must know what they're doing. 337 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: And tomato soup isn't that the other one? Isn't it 338 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: tomato soup and navy bean or tomato juice, tomatomato juice 339 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: or something that they bring out. 340 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they would you like a tomato juice, that's what 341 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: they bring that out too. I'm good, Yeah, I don't 342 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: mind a tomato juice. But I remember the tomato juice too. 343 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: It's like an operative yep. Yeah, I don't know. It's 344 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: so it's just got it's a crazy place, but it's uh, 345 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: it's really cool, very very cool. 346 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: It's awesome. Yep, and I love it. And we got 347 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: a lot of business to do. It is a fun 348 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: it is a fun place. It is a great place 349 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: to be. I love it. I'm very excited, very excited. 350 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Those are your hot topics today, presented by University Hospitals 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: Social Healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. 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Before we talk to anybody go that 374 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: we need that's right? Can we say weapons weapons weapons? 375 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, to me, it's well, last year we 376 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: went weapons, weapons, weapons, That's all we said going into combine. 377 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: Now we got we did get two weapons, maybe three 378 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: potentially if Isaiah Bond can be what I think he's 379 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: certainly flashed the ability to Yeah, right, Quin John a 380 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: weapon yep, Fan in definite weapon yep. Dylan Sampson I 381 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: think has some promise. And then obviously you're looking at 382 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 3: those quarterbacks see if they can shake out there. But 383 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: for me, three biggest positions of need going into the 384 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: combine would be wide receiver and I mean like a superstar, 385 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: a megastar, a number one, a true number one, then 386 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: a tackle, then a tackle or tackles, and then interior 387 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: offensive line. So my three biggest needs are on this Now. 388 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: You could say quarterback obviously, because until we have a 389 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: proven franchise quarterback, we don't. I think we've got some 390 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: good candidates here. But you would say quarterback, but I 391 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: don't think we're going to the combine looking for that, 392 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: per se, because I just don't think that we're going 393 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: to be able to afford Malik Willison the money that 394 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: he's going to get. Now, I do think they'll be talks. 395 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: You'll talk about Kyler Murray. I think he'll talk about 396 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: mac Jones. I don't know what those talks look like 397 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: and if they're even feasible for us. Mac Jones would 398 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: be from a salary standpoint, But do we want to 399 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: give up such a valuable asset that I don't know. 400 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: So those are the top three for me. The next 401 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: three would be or the next four, I guess kind 402 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: of I look at like wild cards. We need a 403 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: second tight end. I think that's bigle we need. Apparently 404 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: we're going to keep going at it defensive tackle to 405 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: buttress that room just because you've got you know, Mike 406 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: Hall has and played a full season yet, Mason was good. MALIEK. 407 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: Collins is now coming off of a serious injury. Shelby 408 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: is an older veteran, and so you don't have necessarily 409 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: those young guys. Now, we did have Tommy Togi I 410 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: we did. We did have Jawan Briggs. We did. Unfortunately 411 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: we do not anymore. And they both were excellent this year. 412 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: And which would have we would have crossed this one 413 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: right off the list here. Yeah, if Devin Bush does 414 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: not come back, which the hope obviously everybody wants to 415 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Bush come back, Will linebacker becomes a big position of need. 416 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: And then you know, obviously we want MJ back as 417 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: the third quarterback, cornerback. But I do think that's that's 418 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: a position that the Browns will have to address as well. 419 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: But that to me, will linebacker and third cornerback are 420 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: addressed in house. Like that's easy. Yep, Just Devin come back, 421 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: MJ comeback, were good. Yeah, I think the. 422 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: You know, number one for us is always going to 423 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: is always going to be wide receiver. Uh, it's always 424 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: going to be weapon. If you if you just think 425 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: of this. I mentioned this, I think in the previous segment, 426 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: and we've talked about it ever since Seattle won. 427 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: The Super Bowl. 428 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: That is a closer path for us right now than 429 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback fifteen years starting quarterback all pro guy 430 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: is that's a much harder needle to thread the other one. 431 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: We're not that far off of dominant defense. Check we 432 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: got that solid. We could put out a defense right 433 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: now that would be a top five defense in the 434 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: league right now without resigning. 435 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: Unrestricted free agents. 436 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: Just keep our restricted guys, keep our guys, and we 437 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: could put a top five defense on the field right 438 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: now that you'd feel very good about. That could contend 439 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: at the level that Seattle's defense contended at, or at 440 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: least in the vicinity of that. So then what else 441 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: does Seattle have? Well, the really competent upfront on the 442 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: offensive line. They run the ball incredibly well with the 443 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: stable of backs. 444 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Okay, we can do that, we can definitely, you can 445 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: healthy we do that. Their quarterback play is top third 446 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: of the league right around there, top twelve to sixteen. Yeah, 447 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: that's yeah, yeah, it's in there right that's an upper 448 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: end of that. 449 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, top third of the league quarterback play. Okay, 450 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: well we'll see. If we have that, maybe Shood can 451 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: develop into that. Maybe Deshaun, who has actually been that 452 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: it's been a while, he was well above that. 453 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: He was top four. 454 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: So maybe with Todd and health and perfect storm god 455 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: bless God willing, he can. 456 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: Revert back to what he was in Houston. Let's go. 457 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: I love that. I think it is. Is that a lot? 458 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: I like that line? Make a movie because that's what 459 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: it is. Okay, But what's the other thing? They have 460 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba the. 461 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: Offensive player of the year. 462 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: If you don't have that, then the rest doesn't matter. 463 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: You got to at least have that guy. You have 464 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: to have somebody that every time you take the field, 465 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: they're like, we've got to stop eleven. We've got it. 466 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: How are we going to handle him? Because then everything 467 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: else builds off of it. So, like, you know, we 468 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: can have these conversations all we want about roster building 469 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: and all of that, but there's really what the Seattle 470 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: Seahawks prove is there is a second way to build 471 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champion beyond draft the franchise quarterback number 472 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: one overall, there's another way and it was a reminder, 473 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: I think. But one of the things you have to 474 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: have is that weapon. 475 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 3: Well look at Sam Darnold's two years where he won 476 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: more than fourteen games. He had justin Jefferson, one year 477 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: in Jackson, Smith and Jig, but the next year. That's right, 478 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: and certainly that's helpful. Matt Stafford's got Puku Nakua and 479 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 3: Devonte Adams down there in La. Yeah, the forty nine 480 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: ers this year, their weapon, really, their number one weapon 481 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 3: is Christian McCaffrey. They didn't have Ayuk but and Kittle's 482 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: been a huge weapon for them. But the Chiefs. Look 483 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: at Mahomes's numbers with Tyreek Hill and then look at 484 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: ma hohomes numbers without Tyreek Hill. They are absolutely starkly different. Now, 485 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey was still the weapon, but and allowed them 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: to be very successful. Yes, you've got to have you 487 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: know that guy, And I think things are the best 488 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: when you've got not only you know if your tight 489 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: end is your weapon, but you also have that big 490 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: time receiver with it. Yeah, you know. In looking Atlanta, 491 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: Drake London, Bejon Robinson, Kyle Pitts, that's a pretty darn 492 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: good tree of people. That you want. You look at 493 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: even you know in Tampa where Bak has had a loccess, 494 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: They've had Mike Evans and Godwin and now they added 495 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: Abuca to that. Yes, you look at Detroit with Jared Goff, 496 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: he's been very successful. Guess what, they nailed a pick 497 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: on a'man Rossaint Brown. They have a weapon in terms 498 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: of a running back in Jamiir Gibbs and a two 499 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: headed monster there. They have a very good tight end 500 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: in Sam Laporte, and then they got the wild card. 501 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: It took a while, but Jamison Williams is the burner 502 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: who puts up a thousand yards every year because he 503 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: hits monster plays. Yep, but that's kind of and I mean, 504 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: you just go on on. Every team's good, like the 505 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: Eagles have a Brown, DeVante Smith, Saquon Barkley and Dallas Goddard. 506 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: Like you've got to have guys who can score the ball. 507 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: That is that's what it's all about. 508 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: So what I think is going to be really interesting 509 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: is as we talk to the Dane Bruglers and the 510 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: co Sells and the Waldman's and all these guys that 511 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: we talk to every year, Matt Miller, all of these 512 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: guys that we talked to this week at the combine, 513 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm very curious to hear kind of their receiver pecking order. 514 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: Who's your one, who's your two, who's your three? Totally? 515 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: Is there a gap between one and two and three 516 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: and four? Yep? 517 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: Or is there not much difference between Carnel Tate and 518 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: the Boston kid from Washington? 519 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: How big is that gap? Yep? 520 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: Could you wait on one at twenty four? Like I 521 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't be a proponent of that. I would want the 522 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: guy at six. If there's not a big difference between 523 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: the one and the six, then it's a little bit 524 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: more palatable. 525 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: If your priority, and this is the way we'll ask it, 526 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: if you, Daniel Jeremiah, were operating under the assumption that 527 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: your number one priority and directive in your organization is 528 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: to get the best receiver in this draft, to get 529 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: a stud number one receiver as the draft, do you 530 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: have to do that six or can you do that 531 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: at twenty four? That's it, that's it. We'll find everybody 532 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: will get a pulling of all those answers. Yeah, because 533 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: to me that's more important. And now does one is 534 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: one for sure? In this draft? Also is another valid question, right. 535 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: I think there's certainly people that could help help us 536 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: in the draft at that position, But to me, that's 537 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: that would be my number one directive here, getting that guy. 538 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 3: And if is that Carnell Tate, is it Makai Lemon, 539 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: is it Jordan Tyson? Is it Boston? I think a 540 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: lot of people think those top three are kind of 541 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: in their one area together, but finding that out, finding 542 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: that out, and what I would also ask is, how 543 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: do you compare anybody in this draft to Tet McMillan. Sure, 544 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: who is the better prospect? Yeah? And we will we 545 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: will see. You know that last year was really just 546 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: tat McMillan and then Abuca, Right, yeah, those two and 547 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: they're both great. Yeah, and McMillan was kind of a 548 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: slow burn and then constantly productive and a Buca is 549 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: like shot out of a cannon and then I don't 550 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: know what kind of happened, is very strange, kind of 551 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: went sideways as that season went on, and one sideways 552 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: certainly for him. But yeah, that's that's my number one 553 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: goal for this for this operation, is to get that 554 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: guy at wide receiver because I do think if all 555 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: of a sudden, like Jerry Judy is your number two, Yes, 556 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: and Bond and Bond is your like speed dude. That 557 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: now okay, So now they've got to devote their top 558 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: resources to let's call it Carnell Tate. Judy is now 559 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: going to get a lot of one on ones against 560 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: the second corner. Yep, go back and watch the Denver game. 561 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: That's kind of how that happened. They were able to 562 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: use motions and shifts get them away from Sartan and 563 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: he absolutely was roasting people. So all of a sudden, 564 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: if he's in that role, I think he becomes more effective. Tate, 565 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: you know, is great, and then Bond is kind of 566 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: the aft up. But whenever he's out there, there's got 567 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: to be a safety that is concerned about Isaiah Bond 568 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: running bind everybody see behind everybody every single game last year. 569 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: And that was without having that number one. Because now, 570 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, if you go out there with 571 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: an offense, it's got Carnell Tate is your one. Let's 572 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: just say hypothetical, Jerry, Judy is your two. Bond is 573 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: your three and eleven personnel. You'll cook Judy inside. I 574 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: would bet a lot in the slot, get him some 575 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: free releases. Love that you've got Harold Fannin and then 576 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: you've got Judkins. I mean, like all of a sudden, 577 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: you're cover. Yeah, you've got That's that's something to contend 578 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: with because this is a team that really just needs 579 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: to get to I don't know. If we score twenty 580 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: two a game, you feel pretty good about our chances 581 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: to win a lot of games. Yeah, yeah, for sure, 582 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: that's it. 583 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: And the yeah, and so we'll have that same conversation 584 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: around tackle. Yeah, what's the difference between Fano and if 585 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: he's the one tackle, then who's the two and what's 586 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: and who's the six? 587 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: Yep? And how big is that gap? Ye? You know? 588 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: Heading over there. Ideally, in my head, I'm thinking receiver. 589 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: It's ideally receiver, six tackle, twenty four tackle, first second round. 590 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: That's That's kind of what I'm thinking in my in 591 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: my head, that would be a perfect draft for us 592 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: if if that's the way they could shake out. 593 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: We are on the same page, brother, you know this. 594 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: I do know this. Locks We've been locked up for 595 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: a long time for you quite give any wants to 596 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: know what's more important on field worker interviews? Uh, clearly 597 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: the interviews. 598 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: Can I give a caveat please for the top prospects 599 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: interviews for the back end of the draft. 600 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: On field, I think you want to people need to 601 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: have their athleticism confirmed. But again I go back to 602 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: like people who are like, oh dk Metcalf can't run 603 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: a three pone yeah, which we talked about earlier, Like, 604 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: so what doesn't really turn out to matter the interviews? 605 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: And I think maybe the interviews are important for everything. 606 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: You need to find out does this person love football? 607 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: You need to find out if you know you're talking quarterbacks, 608 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: you're talking Mike. Linebackers probably say people that understand the 609 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: game and need to understand everything that's going on all 610 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: twenty two on the field, you know. I think obviously 611 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: it matters because I go back to take Shador. If 612 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: there weren't such thing as interviews, if that didn't exist 613 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: and it was just his tape in whatever he did 614 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: on film at Pro Day or at the combine, I 615 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: don't I don't think he did anything in the combine. 616 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: If I I don't think so, remember correctly, then he 617 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 3: goes in the first round for sure. So clearly the 618 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: interviews have the and the medicals. That's the other part 619 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: which we don't know ever, is the medicals those have 620 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 3: I think the biggest bearing. You know, as long as 621 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: somebody runs their time speed and where you expect that 622 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: time speed to be, you know, I think that's gonna 623 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: be You're pretty much there a guy who you know, 624 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: runs a little bit faster than people expect it, or 625 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, gets into a low four to three or 626 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: a high four to two. That's gonna help their draft 627 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: suck because there just aren't a lot of those guys. 628 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you can play per se. We have 629 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: one of the fastest guys maybe in the league. Like yeah, 630 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: old Sty couldn't catch, so that was a problem. That's 631 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: the one physical event that some people do over there 632 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: that most of the lower viewed prospects do over there 633 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: that can shoot you up the draft board. Is that 634 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: forty time. Yep. 635 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: Like you if you're a receiver, a corner and you 636 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: run a fast forty sometimes at running back you run 637 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: a fast faster forty than was anticipated. 638 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: Yep. 639 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: That's where it can set you up and move you 640 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: up rounds. But quite honestly, and look, this was a 641 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: trend last year. I don't think any of the best 642 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: guys did much of anything last year? 643 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: No, this year does it feels like a little bit 644 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: more of a wide open in the top. Yeah, yeah, 645 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: but it's like, you know, Mendoz is going one and 646 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: then there isn't a set after that. 647 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: What did we know last year going in? I'm just 648 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: trying to think we knew to driving over there. It 649 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: was Cam and Schaudor for one, yep, and then it 650 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: was Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter were the best non 651 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: were the best non quarterbacks quarterbacks? Yeah yeah, and then 652 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 2: genty and where oh yeah genty because he was one 653 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: of those like this is a sure thing. How high 654 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: does the running back go? 655 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: And I remember listening because I always listened to that 656 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: pot on the drive that Daniel Jeremiah does and Mason 657 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: Graham was another guy that they were people were very 658 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: excited about. But yeah, and Teed McMillan obviously, but it 659 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: wasn't this one. It feels to me like you could 660 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: see a lot of mockedead are Vell Reese going second 661 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: and then now we see him going seventh. Like it 662 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like after the quarterback that there is a 663 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: real hierarchy of who's gonna go where? 664 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: No, And I think it's I mean, it's an eye 665 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: of the beholder. It was something we talked about earlier 666 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: in the show. I think the Caleb Downs conversation is 667 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: going to be a fascinating one because it would not 668 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: surprise me if by the end of this week the 669 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: consensus over there is he is the surest. 670 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: Thing in this draft. 671 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: Like I watched every snap Caleb Downs played as a 672 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: Buckeye the last two years, and I watched every snap 673 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: that rvel Reese played as a buck Eye the last 674 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: two years, and rvel Reese was incredible at the start 675 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: of this year. 676 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: He was everywhere. I've never seen Caleb Downs out of 677 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: place ever. Dude, if you go back and listen to 678 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: the show that we did when we started thinking about 679 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: the draft next year, Yeah, my dream was always to 680 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: get a stud wide receiver in Caleb Downs. Yeah, right, right, 681 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: right right? Could we get them both? That's right, That's 682 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: a home run to me. But now we have these 683 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: unfortunately glaring the needs on the offensive line that can't 684 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: be ignored. Now, you again, we talked about it, you 685 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: know earlier, what Joe Flacco took us to the playoffs, 686 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: the starting tackles where James Hudson and Jaron Christian and 687 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco had more consecutive thre hundred yard games anybody 688 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: in the history of this franchise with those tackles. With 689 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: those tackles, that's that's what I always come back to. 690 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: So to me, it's like if everything's humming in the 691 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: offense is working, and you got a good quarterback who 692 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: understands defenses and get the ball out and you know, 693 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: it's not as important to me as the other things. 694 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: To me, that's something that you then turn your attention 695 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: to once you have the weapons. And I'm gonna give 696 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: the example of the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears came 697 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: into it. Caleb Williams was here as a number one pick. 698 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift was already there under contract for now a 699 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: second season. Right, they had already drafted. They brought in 700 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: Dj Moore. Yep, they had drafted Roma Doonsa. They had 701 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: Cole Comett who was a second round pick. But so 702 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: then in the offseason they signed like three offensive linemen 703 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: and then they used the draft to add Colson Lovelin 704 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: and Luther Burden. So now all of a sudden, but 705 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: but they had the base of weaponry. First added the 706 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: line and then finished it this last draft they draft, 707 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: their first two picks were two more weapons. It was 708 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: weapons and burden, and then they got Manung Guy later 709 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: on in the draft too was a nice little hammer 710 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: compliment like their weapons are set. Yes, Dj Moore, Roma, 711 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: Doons A and and because Burden's so good, they could 712 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: if they wanted to trade Dj Moore, Sure they could. 713 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: But Dj Moore Roma, dunes A, Luther Bird and Colston 714 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Loveland cole Comet Swift weapons. Williams Like, that's why they 715 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: were never out of a game. Never, no, No, That's 716 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: a great example. Love that example. Yeah, I wish that 717 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: was up. That would be so fun. Nice to be 718 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: in that partying in Northern Indiana having a great time. 719 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: That's true. 720 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: For the ultimate brown skierhead to the Browns Pro Shop, 721 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: a fanatic experience right next to unting to Bakefield, Jersey's hats, goodies, collectibles, 722 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: exclusive birds she will not find anywhere else. Shop in 723 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Sore online at shopped at Cleveland Browns dot com The 724 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: Browns Pro Shop official merchandise for true Browns fans. 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Please 733 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: bet responsibly on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 734 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back into this special edition of Cleveland Browns 735 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: Daily presented by ballely Bete official sports winning partner of 736 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 737 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: This Combine Week edition of the program is presented by 738 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 2: Bullseye Event Group for award winning game day experiences. Visit 739 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: Bullseye ev Group dot com and add more fun to 740 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: your fantom with the bally bet sportsbook app downloaded day 741 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: get fifty back in bonus bet you placed that first 742 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: wager of ten or more bally Bet, official sportspinning partner 743 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. One bold prediction for Combine week 744 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 2: for you, my friend. 745 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: Hmmm, we will all handle Saint Elmo's with great a plumb. 746 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: The cocktail sauce will not clear any victims. We will 747 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: order medium steaks and be happy with it. Fair. I 748 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: would like to think, I what would be really fun 749 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 3: is if there's like a big trade that comes out 750 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: of the common I'd love that. That would be super fun. 751 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: And hopefully it's like for us and somehow they were like, 752 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: you know what, you guys get CD Lamb and one 753 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 3: of our picks and you give us number six. Like okay, 754 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 3: I would do that. Joe Burrow for six, Joe Burrow 755 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: for six? Why not? But I hope that there's a 756 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: big hope there's a big fun trade. And then my 757 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 3: other bold prediction is that by the time we leave there, 758 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: somebody is going to have like Ty Simpson is going 759 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: to be somebody that is creeping into the back. There 760 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: will be some quarterback that people are gonna say, oh, 761 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: could creep back into the back into the first round 762 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: or something like that. 763 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think this week is going to 764 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: be all about quarterback, and I think it's going to 765 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: be all about the guys who are available and a 766 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: league who watched at the beginning of the season as 767 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield resurrected his career in Tampa and then obviously 768 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: leveled off. And then Sam Darnold won a super Bowl 769 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: and won twenty eight games in the regular season the 770 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: last two years, Daniel Jones played incredibly competent for Indy, 771 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to see an incredible amount 772 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: of interest, not only Malik Willis, but Mac Jones. I 773 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: think Kyler is going to be somebody that we forgot 774 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: about him. He only played five games this year, but 775 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: I think there will be people. You did this earlier. 776 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 2: We went through his numbers the last full healthy season. 777 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd kill for that. 778 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: Thirty eight hundred yards, twenty two touchdowns, eleven picks ran 779 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: for another five hundred and seven touchdowns. People, there are 780 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: so many teams who are starving for that, Yes and so, 781 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: and then there's also like the Anthony Richardson guys, and 782 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: guys who feel like they've petered out. They were drafted, 783 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: didn't hit toolsy, guys that just needed Joe Milton change 784 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: the scenery. Guys will so I think by the time 785 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: we're done this week, there will be a pretty robust 786 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: conversation at the quarterback position, not necessarily in this draft 787 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: where it feels like it's Mendoza and I'm with you, 788 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: maybe Simpson is somebody who sneaks in the back. 789 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: But then you have like the Drew Allers, the Nuts, Meyers, 790 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 3: Carson back Club Nick, all those guys who were at 791 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 3: one point, we're talking about it two years ago number 792 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 3: one picks. Two years ago, we would everybody at this 793 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: time two years ago, when Carson Beck was going into 794 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 3: his junior year, Georgia said, that's the number one pick 795 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: in the draft. Now, is he undraftable? Andrewler, had he 796 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: not had a bad game against Underdame two years ago 797 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: two years might have gone in the top ten. Absolutely, absolutely. 798 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean there will be fun guys that I think 799 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: teams will take flyers on. It will be interesting if 800 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: somebody gets talked into the back half of the first round. 801 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: The other thing you can't take seriously. And now it's 802 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: funny because Malik Willis is now the hottest free agent 803 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: quarterback and it will probably make more than thirty million 804 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: dollars this year that when at a combine he ever 805 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: talked about him going in the top ten. Yes, and 806 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 3: he goes at late their run. Same with that kid 807 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: who who is the one guy who's won from Alabama, 808 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: who just won from Alabama? Milrow? Oh yeah, yeah, Milroe. Yeah, 809 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 3: Milroe went like the end of the third Yeah, people 810 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 3: out of town saying he got a trade up to 811 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: Milroe to take him at two. That's right. They're saying that. 812 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: They are saying that people are coming to too to 813 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: take Milroe. Yeah, and then. 814 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: That didn't work, So like, yeah, you don't know anything, 815 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: so you know, there's gonna be the liar's poker that happens. 816 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: They're the one thing that always happens at the combine 817 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: is consensus happens on Tuesday. There might be sixteen different 818 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: views on players. By the time you get to Thursday 819 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: and Friday, there's kind of one view or two view. 820 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: Consensus happens over there. I think the quarterback conversation is 821 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: going to be interesting. There is there are a ton 822 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: of tradeable guys in this league. Who I mean, for example, 823 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: could we see a Joe Burrow conversation? Not for us, 824 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: but is there is that something I would love that 825 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: you know where you know where he's fed up and 826 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: it's like I can't waste any more time doing this. 827 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: I mean, please don't please leave, get out of here. So, 828 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, like, I don't want to get sacked by 829 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett anymore. It's I comes enough, it's in the office. 830 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 3: We'd have to change that picture. But I'd be fine 831 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: with that. I'd be fine. I'd make amends. 832 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think those are you know, 833 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: some of the things that happen over there that are 834 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: pretty exciting. Uh, we will get extended conversations with ab 835 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: and Todd. You've talked to Todd a lot here in 836 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: the last month. 837 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 3: I've talked to all of them a lot a lot. 838 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, give, I wants to know what's the one question 839 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 2: you want to ask. 840 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything that I haven't asked them. 841 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: I just the one question you want to ask, which 842 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: is not going to be able to be answered. My 843 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: guess is is okay, if I could ask it, is 844 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: getting a number one wide receiver to a B is 845 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: that the top priority for this off season? It's a 846 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 3: great question, Nate. He's like, we don't look at it. 847 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 3: We won't look at that way yet. No, there's no chance. 848 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: And then for Todd it's all right. Walk me through 849 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: as you sit here today, what is the quarterback plan? 850 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: Oh boy, who's taking the first rep at the first 851 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: practice in Ota? Yep? Yep? What's that look like? What 852 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: does that look like? What is your plan? Such a 853 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: person he's got to have I mean, you have to 854 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: have it. Yeah, he's got to That's I would want 855 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 3: to know. So will I ask those questions? Probably not 856 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: because I know what the answer is. Maybe I will 857 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: maybe just forget see the. 858 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: Quarterback plan one would be one that would make sense 859 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: and would be we know, you know you're not going 860 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: to get You're not going to get I mean, and 861 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 2: you can't. You can't. You can ask Andrew twenty minutes 862 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: a question. They're incredible, they're incredible. You're not going to 863 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: get a true answer on anything on in any of 864 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 2: it because it's what doesn't behoove him to give it. 865 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: So it's almost like you have to go off topic 866 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: that tried to glean some sort of. 867 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 3: There's nothing good to ask. There's no good answer for 868 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 3: him to give. He's like, yeah, get any number one 869 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 3: receiver that drives the price up in any trade toopet 870 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: D makes people who want receivers say, oh we got 871 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: to get in front of the brown So that's these 872 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: are like true serum things that I would like to 873 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: know me too. The quarterback one, I think we can 874 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 3: ask to that for sure. For ab what's the one question? 875 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 3: May well just go with are we well, Devin Bush 876 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 3: and mj Emerson be back because that's what we all want. Yeah, 877 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 3: that'd be good. That'd be a good one. It's gonna 878 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 3: be fun, man. Yeah, I'm excited to get over there. 879 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: It is. 880 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: It is a treat in every way. The food is good, uh, 881 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: the uh. 882 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: The information is incredible. Yeah, it's fun. The birds are 883 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 3: borderline not safe, hazardous. You're still here. I don't know 884 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 3: how I know. 885 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: I don't know you're here. You're a rugged I guess 886 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: sturdy stock. But we got you covered. Tomorrow starting at 887 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 2: three o'clock, this is Combine Week. It's presented by Bullseye 888 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: Event Group. Your award winning game to experience, visit bullseyeventgroup 889 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: dot com. 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