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Speaker 1: Breaking news during the show, Cody Bellinger and the Yankees

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Speaker 1: are married again. Five year contract one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars. It's very front loaded.

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Speaker 1: We're learning all of.

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Speaker 2: The details as we go here.

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Speaker 1: It includes a twenty million dollars signing bonus, and the

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Speaker 1: first two seasons of the contract are thirty two and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollars. That's an addition to the signing bonus.

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Speaker 1: The signing bonus, for context, is included in that total

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Speaker 1: number that we learn, right, it's not an additional signing whatness.

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Speaker 2: I know some people were asking about that.

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Speaker 1: So it's one hundred and sixty two and a half

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Speaker 1: million dollars during the course of the contract, but he

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Speaker 1: gets twenty plus thirty two and a half a year.

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Speaker 1: So when you add that up, the first two years

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Speaker 1: of the contract contain eighty five million dollars. That's more

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Speaker 1: than half of the contract in two years versus what

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Speaker 1: it looks like in the last three years. That is

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Speaker 1: called front loaded, and that makes sense because he should

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Speaker 1: be better in those first two years than he is

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Speaker 1: in the last three years. Well, I mean, how much

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Speaker 1: does he make those first two eighty five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: How much does Aaron Judge make a year? You tell

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Speaker 3: me forty?

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Speaker 2: Exact number is it? Forty?

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Speaker 3: So Cody Bellinger the first two years is making more

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Speaker 3: than aerror Judge.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, Judge signed years ago and he went back to

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Speaker 1: his team. That's I'm just that's the market.

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Speaker 3: Saying he're there anywhere. I'm just saying, for these next

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Speaker 3: two years, Yankee fans, Cody Bellinger is making more than

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Speaker 3: AIRR Judge.

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Speaker 1: Aaron's a little bigger than Cody, So I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's going to go up to him and say ha ha.

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Speaker 1: But for Cody, he can opt out. Great for Cody, Well, Kratz,

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Speaker 1: you're stronger than him, But I don't know about Cody.

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Speaker 1: You're stronger than Judge. But anyway, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Cody is going to end up opting out again, none

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Speaker 1: of us know. But if he puts seasons together like

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Speaker 1: he did last year, he can go back into the

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Speaker 1: market again. He's done this a lot. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: that's been attached to opt outs. He's got it. Not

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Speaker 1: after year one, after your two and year three. If

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Speaker 1: we have a lockout that takes out of season, he gets.

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Speaker 2: The opt out pushed back. That's actually language that's pushed

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Speaker 2: in there or put in there.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about the deal that we

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Speaker 1: basically already knew publicly for a while.

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Speaker 3: Now, whan isn't this what the Yankees offered? Like weeks

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Speaker 3: ago it came out that it was this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think he got like two million more dollars. But

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Speaker 3: if five one sixty was the rumor being so, he

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Speaker 3: could have done this weeks ago. But there's one thing

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Speaker 3: that one of the main suitters was who the Mats

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Speaker 3: Matt and who they just traded for last night Atlas Robert.

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Speaker 3: Then what was the other team? The Blue Jays. They

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Speaker 3: were probably comfortable paying him forty million dollars a year, right,

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Speaker 3: so they said okay? And then Bellinger didn't really have

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Speaker 3: any other suitors that I can find that anyone mentioned,

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Speaker 3: So he took the best deal available to him. Good

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Speaker 3: for him. One hundred and sixty two point five million

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Speaker 3: is a lot of millions.

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Speaker 1: He wanted seven years, or his team wanted seven years.

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Speaker 2: They got it right.

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Speaker 1: And Krats, I mean, he put together a great year

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Speaker 1: this past season for the Yankees, one twenty five ops

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Speaker 1: plus one hundreds league average five point one baseball war.

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Speaker 1: I mean five win player is really good. I mean

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Speaker 1: the park didn't hurt. His ops at home was nine

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Speaker 1: He just fit really well with this squad. He also

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Speaker 1: improved his numbers significantly against left handed pitching him. He

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Speaker 1: was one of the better lefty edders against lefty pitching

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Speaker 1: this past season. So he had a really strong year.

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Speaker 1: It's a good marriage. Keep it running, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've said it the whole time that I

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Speaker 4: think the value is not just in the fact that

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Speaker 4: he had twenty nine homers. I think everybody on the

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Speaker 4: team's home runs spiked, from Ben Rice to Jazz Chisholm.

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Speaker 4: You know, Anthony Volpi had. You know, I think he

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Speaker 4: had nineteen homers. Like the home runs are gonna come

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Speaker 4: to me. For Cody to be the most valuable to

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Speaker 4: a team, it's gonna not be if he hits thirty homers.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be if he puts together good at bats

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Speaker 4: around Judge wherever that is. If they're going to settle

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Speaker 4: him in behind Judge, he's got to be able to

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty times, and it's you know, it's being

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Speaker 4: a past in that lineup. But then also giving the

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Speaker 4: Yankee some flexibility, not just this year where he will

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Speaker 4: not play center field. Trent Grisham will play center field

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Speaker 4: because Trent Grisham's making the qualifying offer twenty two million,

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Speaker 4: but where he can play left Ben Rice catches some

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Speaker 4: games he's going to move away from first now they

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Speaker 4: don't have to find another first baseman. Cody can fill

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Speaker 4: in it first, and then most likely when Trent Grisham

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Speaker 4: leaves next year, he can slot in in center field.

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Speaker 4: Does he play the entirety of the rest of his

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Speaker 4: contract last four years in center field. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We don't know where that's going to be. But I

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Speaker 4: think this was as much as Yankee fans, I think

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Speaker 4: started sweating a little bit. This was my This was

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Speaker 4: my lock, and then my second lock was Bragman back

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Speaker 4: to the Red Sox. Well, clearly my second lock missed

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Speaker 4: this one hit. And I'm glad for both because he

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Speaker 4: had success there and he doesn't have to play the

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Speaker 4: opt out game, but he can and if he.

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Speaker 1: Wants to remember one year ago he was traded from

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Speaker 1: the Cubs to the Yankees, and the Yankees took on

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of that contract, but the Cubs had to

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Speaker 1: eat five million dollars. It wasn't an easy contract to swap, right.

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Speaker 1: It was two years fifty two and a half million

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Speaker 1: left and five of that was covered, so the Yankees

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Speaker 1: were taking on two years forty seven point five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: My point is that his stock swored this past season

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Speaker 1: with the Yankees, especially within the Yankees, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was not looked at across baseball as a superstar.

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Speaker 1: It was looked at as someone who had MVP moments

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Speaker 1: and then had low points, had shoulder issues, had inconsistencies

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Speaker 1: with swing, but really has become an all around player

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Speaker 1: and had a great year.

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Speaker 4: For New York.

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Speaker 3: No, what's not the right? What is this?

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Speaker 4: Did his stock storp?

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Speaker 3: I just think he had two solid years back to back,

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Speaker 1: This year was really good and it was a perfect match.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say his stock.

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Speaker 3: Went up surely because he was able to handle New York.

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Speaker 3: He played well in New York, and therefore the Yankees

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Speaker 3: for the Yankees his stock sword. Right again, what were

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Speaker 3: the other suitors? That's the thing, that's my thing right now.

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Speaker 3: We don't know the others back, but the Mets. The

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Speaker 3: Mets were definitely interested, and they were not in his

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Speaker 3: number because I they would have been in this number,

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Speaker 3: they would have got it done. Knowing Stevie Cohen, if

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Speaker 3: there's two teams that are closed, he'll just say, oh,

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Speaker 3: here's twenty extra million, go get it done. Right, He

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Speaker 3: didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: They wanted a shorter term deal.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out maybe what that looked like, but it

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Speaker 1: was probably two maybe three years. Okay, you got a

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Speaker 1: mini version of the Bobaschett offer that goes on, what

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Speaker 1: does this do for Jason Domingos?

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Speaker 3: What does this do for Spencer Jones? What does this

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Speaker 3: do for some of those Yankee hype prospects that we've

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Speaker 3: been hearing about for so long? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Trade one of them from Freddy par Alton.

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Speaker 3: Okay, which one.

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Speaker 4: H h Which one goes?

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Speaker 2: Which one goes? Or which one? Would we trade either?

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Speaker 3: Or you tell me which one should go? Which one

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Speaker 4: If I'm the Brewers, I take Spencer Jones. I think

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Speaker 4: you've seen what Jason Deminguez can do, has done whatever?

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Speaker 4: And can you afford to have him hit right handed?

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Speaker 4: Or does he become a platoon Obviously, you don't know

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Speaker 4: what Spencer Jones is gonna do, but you're gonna say,

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Speaker 4: I get it. He strikes out a third of the

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Speaker 4: time in the minor leagues. We're putting them in the

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Speaker 4: big leagues. He's gonna steal twenty plus bases for us.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna play, He's gonna play the outfield really well.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a center field. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have Churio him in the outfield. And to me,

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Speaker 4: it's gotta be Spencer Jones and somebody Spencer Jones and

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Speaker 4: another piece. And I don't think the I don't think

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Speaker 4: the Brewers will come off somebody that's not a big

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Speaker 4: be a big Leagy Pictre because they're getting rid of Freddy.

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Speaker 4: It would be Spencer and a big league Pictures is

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Speaker 2: Not Schlittler, but I don't think they're not doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you can't have Jones and any of

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Speaker 1: those guys in the deal. That's too much for one

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Speaker 1: year a player. Yes, I'm telling you that's too much.

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Speaker 3: Jones has proven zero.

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Speaker 2: I know, but that's too much for industry standards. I'm

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Speaker 3: Also, So then why when you throw Domingos and a

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Speaker 3: one of those guys it's too much.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get one of those You're getting one

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Speaker 1: of those guys in there, and then someone.

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Speaker 3: On the Okay, where's Jason.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let me answer the question. Kratz did his for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm trading Diminga is potentially in a deal for Freddy

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Speaker 1: Peralta or Nick Pavetta or Mackenzie Gore. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a logjam, and for me, Jones has more upside.

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Speaker 1: Jones is much more of an enigma. He might strike

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Speaker 1: out way too much, or he could become a star

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Speaker 1: with Domingos.

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Speaker 2: Do we think he's going to be a star.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Slitler, you have Freddy Perolta. Slitler was Who's

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Speaker 3: So every team goes, we want Schlitler, you trade them

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Speaker 4: No, no, you're getting Freddy. You're getting Freddy Peralta for

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Speaker 4: I don't care if the Yankees strikeout a lot or not.

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Speaker 1: Now Dominguez Jones and Will Warren plus another prospect or

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Speaker 3: You only get one year.

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Speaker 3: Oh now see now the rules change, crowd.

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Speaker 3: It's only one year though, I've not given up though

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you that, you know, we.

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Speaker 4: so how does that change? How does that change with

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Speaker 1: Guys will get hurt too, well, yeah, wow, John Carlos

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Speaker 2: A full season or hitting a full season.

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Speaker 4: One of those guys going Dominga is you think.

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Speaker 1: You think that they're going to trade one of them

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Speaker 4: I do only because I don't think they're in on

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Speaker 4: the Zach Gowan frambur I'm forgetting another free agent pitcher

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Belly's back. Let's remember the Yankees haven't done a ton.

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Speaker 1: they're below the Blue Jays. You've got them three who's

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Speaker 4: But most likely I haven't. I haven't fully committed yet.

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Speaker 4: I want to see the rest of the Orioles Orioles offseason.

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Speaker 4: I want to see them pick up that starting pitcher

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say today Red Sox are second, blue

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Speaker 4: Jays are first. I just think the Yankees will have

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Speaker 1: It finally happened, lou Bob is moving on. We had

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Speaker 1: heard the Mets in the reds forever. The Mets win,

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Speaker 1: they get Louise Robert and they pay the whole nothing salary. Well,

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Speaker 1: Louis on Helocunya and last year's when is it twelve

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Speaker 3: Is he? Though?

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Speaker 2: He had four home runs in a Venezuelan League game

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Speaker 3: Nobody cares cool either. I mean that's all His career

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Speaker 3: to be excited about that? He just started his career

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Speaker 3: minor league go ps is seven fifty one.

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Speaker 3: No, why the Mets want to give him up?

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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't believe in him?

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Speaker 3: use it right. But to me, this should have maybe traded,

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Speaker 2: Now you can't stay on the field.

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Speaker 3: You can't stay on the field. Now, the Mets, here's

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Speaker 2: I don't know the agency situation. Think you did right.

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Speaker 2: So he's shown flashes twenty three was.

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Speaker 3: Listen, he's shown flashes when he's healthy, but that he

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Speaker 3: And now you look at that twenty twenty one White

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: The team that was supposed to lead them to the

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Speaker 2: Maybe he meant trade parade.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's what it was. Yeah, I don't know. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy he's gone as a White Sox fan just

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Speaker 3: because of twenty million dollars is nice. He wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't gonna make or break them winning the division

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Speaker 1: I was actually about to go bury against you. And

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Speaker 2: So I get that.

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Speaker 1: Was it worth waiting for months and getting these two

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Speaker 1: million dollar buyout, so if he doesn't get picked up

439
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: for twenty seven, it's twenty two million dollars for this

440
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: coming season. Kratz, was it worth waiting for Luisan Hilocunya

441
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: and Graham Paul, who's a later round draft pick from

442
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: last year that clearly they like, versus being able to

443
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: spend a good chunk of change on a player for

444
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six that now is a much shorter list

445
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: of players available.

446
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 4: Oh wait, oh, we couldn't get anybody for the twenty

447
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: million because it's just not a lot of guys left. No,

448
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 4: they're they're not going to go get anybody. And to me,

449
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 4: like did they get I would say they came out ahead.

450
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: Did they come out franchised changing ahead?

451
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: No?

452
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: Was it worth the risk? It's like playing poker right now, like,

453
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 4: is it worth going all in when there's four dollars

454
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: in the pot? What if somebody actually has a better

455
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 4: hand than you? What if they got stuck with Luis Robert?

456
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: He clearly was not motivated in Chicago. He was clearly

457
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 4: coveted by teams or a team the Mets last year,

458
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 4: but they couldn't they couldn't agree on what that price

459
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 4: was gonna be. Now the Mets went and got Mark Simons,

460
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 4: so they don't need a depth piece in Luis Ahlcunya

461
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: and so, yes, they came out on top. To me,

462
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: the risk wasn't there. And no, if White Sox fans

463
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 4: are saying, oh, yeah, we're gonna spend that extra twenty million,

464
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: I have a hard time believing outside of a like

465
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: Zach Gallen for one year is not even gonna he's

466
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: not going to go there, but he's not going to

467
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: cost that much, like and is he No, he's going

468
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: to cost way more than that. He's going to get

469
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 4: the qualifying offer and the qualifying offers twenty two point

470
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: seven I think right now, Oh.

471
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Speaker 2: I thought you said he's gonna get less.

472
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna cost more, but not necessarily per season.

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, he might cost twenty something mill for next year,

474
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: but you might have to add another year or two

475
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: and then give an opt out or not necessarily. I mean,

476
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Speaker 1: we haven't heard a lot with his market yet. We

477
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: all know the obvious Zach Gallen is going to be

478
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: playing on some type of contract that allows him to

479
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: go back into the market. That's a that's a definite.

480
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm way against you guys here on two points one.

481
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: I do think the White Sacks are going to spend

482
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: some money between now and spring training. I think they're

483
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: going to go after someone what I.

484
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: Don't know who who we just talked about it.

485
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Could it be Gallon, Could it be Lucas Giolito, Chris Bassett,

486
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: Guys that are on the market that are in the

487
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: quote mid tier starting pitching.

488
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: Okay, that twenty million dollars to get you one of

489
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: those guys.

490
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: Okay, but there you guys were saying, Oh, I don't

491
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: know if they're going to spend it. I think they're

492
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: going to spend it. I think they'll spend it home

493
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: pitching that they can then either flip into the deadline

494
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: or help I mean, at the very least of course

495
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: helps them in the first half. And then I do

496
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: want to make sure we hit the Mets side of

497
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: the equation here he does get a change of scenery.

498
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: Jonas wants to for the Mets. Listen to Mets. This

499
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: is like a no lose situation for me for the Mets,

500
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: because they get a guy that's going to be motivated.

501
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: It's the last year of his deal. He's gonna want

502
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: to hit the free agent market. He's gonna want to

503
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: really put up a good year in a new scenery,

504
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: a place where he goes from a team that has

505
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: lost one hundred games scers in a row to a

506
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: team that's trying to compete. He's got Lindor Baschett, Soto,

507
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: He's got some dudes around him. Now. I like this

508
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: move for the Mets. Listen twenty although if you read

509
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: this stuff. It's really gonna cost him more than twenty

510
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: because of the luxury tax and all that. Whatever. The

511
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: Mets don't care. Okay, but for the Mets this is

512
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: like a note, it's only a one year thing that

513
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: they don't like them. They're like, see a lubab we'll

514
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: see you next year somewhere else playing. But to me,

515
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: this is the Mets gave up nothing. Listen. They don't

516
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: care about Akunya. Sorry, he was in Triple A last year,

517
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: didn't do anything in the big leagues. Got a lot

518
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: of hype because he's, excuse me, Ronald Acunye's brother. But

519
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: if you even look at his numbers in the minor leagues,

520
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: they weren't outstanding. And then the picture that was it

521
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Truman Pauli. He was a twelveth round pick last year. Yeah, right,

522
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: and look at his numbers. This ain't knocking anybody. But

523
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: he has a walk problem. If in college in seventy

524
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: innings you walk forty eight guys, you got a walk problem.

525
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: And then the year before he had forty one walks

526
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: in forty four innings. Right, it didn't go any better.

527
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: He pitched in the Kate got a bunch of h

528
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: had fifteen innings seven walks right here, you know, so

529
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: there's there's obviously a control problem mixed in there somewhere,

530
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: which maybe the White Sox think they can fix, right.

531
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 3: And he threw four innings this year in professional bait

532
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: four and a third, four walks, three strikeouts.

533
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they didn't give up anything.

534
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: No, And this was basically the White Sox wanted to

535
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: get rid of lou Bob and the Mets were like,

536
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: we'll take him for one year and see if we

537
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: can turn him into something special, and if it works out,

538
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: we'll sign him to a long term dealing. If it doesn't,

539
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: we say, Sayonara, and you hit the free agent trail.

540
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: And they're not going to pitch around him when he's

541
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: with the Mets crats. I mean, there's other guys for

542
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: pictures to circle on the scatting report before they start

543
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: the game. They're not gonna be like, guys, we can't

544
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: let lou Bob beat us. There was a time period

545
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: where it's like there's nothing else there.

546
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay, so you put his thirty three stone bases in

547
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: the lineup right next to Juan Sota's forty like okay,

548
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 4: Like now, we're you know, now there's value there. The

549
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: biggest thing and the only way that this works out

550
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 4: like big time mega for the Mets is if they

551
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: figure out how to get some starting pitching, because doesn't

552
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: matter how many people on offense they add, they don't

553
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 4: get starting pitching, they're not going They're gonna do the

554
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: same thing they did last year. Can they unlock Luise

555
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: Robert Junior? Sure, I'm sure they can. You think the

556
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: White Sox weren't trying to unlock them, No, they were trying.

557
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: Maybe they didn't have the facilities, maybe they didn't have

558
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: the people that were able to like connect with them,

559
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: or maybe it's just gonna be a free agent year

560
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: for Luise Robert Junior, and he's gonna say, I'm staying

561
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: on the field. This guy since I saw him come

562
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 4: up to Triple A. We were there when he got

563
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: called up to Charlotte. I think he hit like five

564
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 4: or six home runs in the series. I mean it

565
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: was everywhere you were like, what is this guy just

566
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: the same as Joann Mancata when he first got called

567
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: up and I saw him in Triple A, just the

568
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: same Eloy Jimenez. Something happened to all those guys that

569
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: had supreme, supreme ceilings and none of them panned out.

570
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: I don't care what you say about Luise Roberts. One

571
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: season it did. His career has not panned out yet.

572
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: How do they unlock Luis Robert that the Mets do it?

573
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: They figure it out. This isn't mega signing and it

574
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: will be huge cash for Luis Robert Junior in free

575
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: agency next year.

576
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: So let me read the lineup that Van Grafts has

577
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: projected against Righty's and sure there might be a trade

578
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: still for the Mets, and we all know they need pitching.

579
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: They're going to go after pitching.

580
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: At this point, they need at least another starter Lindor leadoff,

581
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Soto two, Bashett three, Polanco four, Semi and five, Brett

582
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Beaty six, Francisco Abare seven. They've got Louise Robert eight,

583
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: and Carson Benge is their top prospect in the ninth spot.

584
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: Fine, that's not bad.

585
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good lineup that can contend that, no doubt.

586
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: But here's all I agree with.

587
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: That, and people in the chat, I want to say

588
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: this also, Luis Robert Jr. If he was traded and

589
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Acunya turns into something and Paulie turns into something, and

590
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: they spend the twenty million dollars like they said they're

591
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 3: going to and they get some decent trades. If they

592
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: those guys whoever they signed for those and they can

593
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: trade them, then I'll applaud this trade from the White

594
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: Sox side. But to me, they could have just released

595
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: him in the off season, got nothing, traded him a

596
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: year ago or two years ago, and probably gotten more

597
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: because two years ago after especially after twenty three, they

598
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: knew they weren't going to be any good and twenty

599
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 3: four they could have traded away and got a haul,

600
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: and they and they held on to him because they

601
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: were afraid he might turn into something. Well, now they

602
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: trade him away, and imagine if he hits thirty and

603
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: steal he goes thirty to thirty for the Mets this

604
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: year and stays on the field.

605
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: But he had to get out of there.

606
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: I agree. That's why I say for the Mets, this

607
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: is a no brainer trade. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well we'll

608
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: give you our fortieth best prospect and a guy who's

609
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 3: not going to see the field for us. Good luck.

610
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 3: Where's he gonna play for the White Sox Acuona. You

611
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: tell me, you know that's I want to know. He's

612
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: not playing third, Vargas not playing short. Colson Montgomery. My

613
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: draw's gonna be second. You got so so probably at first. Okay,

614
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: where's he play? Where's the bats coming?

615
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: They traded for a utility guy. That's it.

616
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: They got him in center field.

617
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: It's not he's gonna play it's not agent he's gonna

618
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: play center field.

619
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: They've got him in centerfield. He's fast as hell.

620
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: I know he's fast as hell.

621
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: But that might be the spot for him. You don't

622
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: have to have as much of a bat. I mean, it's.

623
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: Hard to be able to hit a little bit to

624
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: play center field.

625
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I know, but he might be able to hit a

626
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: little bit. Give him a little bit of chance. He's

627
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: only twenty three, Okay, give give him a little bit

628
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: of it.

629
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: Said he.

630
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: If Acona turns into something and they spend the twenty

631
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: million and the Pauly guy, then listen, this is a

632
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: great trade for the White Sox. They've got it can be,

633
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: but I got it. I'm gonna have to see all

634
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: the That's a lot of ifs and butts, and we

635
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: know about if some fifths and Butts. You know, we

636
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: don't know all about that.

637
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: If there's a place for him to go, right, it

638
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: would be a team like the White Sox. The Mets

639
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: did not have space for him, like you mentioned with

640
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: the White Sox. Right now, this is their starting outfield

641
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: against Writers. According to fangrafts, they've got Brooks Baldwin and right,

642
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: Andrew ben and Tendi who has had severe injury issues

643
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: right in left, and Luis Anhell Acunya in center, and

644
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: even just looking around the diamond, Acunya has developed as

645
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: a utility player, so you can play a number of positions.

646
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: Somebody gets hurt in the infield, Acuna can jump in

647
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: there as well. So he's a utility guy. You picked

648
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: up a utility guy who's making league minimum. You can

649
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: be sick and tired of hearing about it, so are we,

650
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: But the stories just keep on coming. Evan Drelik reports

651
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: for The Athletic, and a source who is in on

652
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: conversations that ownership groups have, which my guess is that

653
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: they're in on the owners meetings, said they are enraged

654
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: about Kyle Tucker deal. It is one certainty they're pushing

655
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: for a cap no matter what it takes see pushing

656
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: for a cap. That's whatever. That's what this tweet says.

657
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: But if you actually look at the story, there it is.

658
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: There's the quote, They're going for a cap no matter

659
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: what it takes. Now, I felt like that was the

660
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: case for the most part anyway, the psychology, he's not

661
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: going for a cap. The Dodgers, Met and the Metal.

662
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

663
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: This story said.

664
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: That every owner is unified.

665
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's always this story thinks that there's only

666
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: two for sure, Mets and Dodgers, and that some of

667
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: the other teams still would be down for a cap.

668
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: This brings cost certainty, so every franchise value soars through

669
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: the roof once you get a cap. That's a fact, okay,

670
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: and at least half the league is.

671
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Interested, said Dick Monford, where the Rockies has already come

672
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: out and pretty much said it.

673
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Yes, there's also probably five ownership groups that are going

674
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: to sell their team if they get the app within

675
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: two years. It immediately gives them an extra like a

676
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: couple hundred million dollars. The team that stands out the most,

677
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: of course, it's a lock. The Twins will.

678
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Sell as soon as if they get a cap.

679
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: They are selling as soon as possible because they're looking

680
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: for an extra two hundred million dollars and they're like, sure,

681
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: we'll take the hit and wait two years to get

682
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: a cap for two hundred million dollars. Oruld you wait

683
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: two years for two hundred mill I think almost anybody

684
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: on the planet would so them. Plus there's a number

685
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: of others that I think will be sold if that happens, Nationals, Angels,

686
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: we can go through a whole list there, Okay, White

687
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Sox White Right, they're already on the pathway to sell that.

688
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I think the a's will be sold years. Yeah, so

689
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams. Actually, it says that

690
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: in the article. It says the next ownership meeting, which

691
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I think occur in about a month, will go over

692
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: what they want to throw out there, what their ideal

693
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: scenario is, not just with the cap, but with the floor.

694
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: That would be a guarantee if they ended up pulling

695
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: it off. I still don't think this is going to happen,

696
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: But if they do pull that off, it's going to

697
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: be a battle inside that room because the big market

698
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: teams are sick of sharing with the small market teams.

699
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: The small market teams. They are many of them are

700
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: pocketing money.

701
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: It's a fact. So in the article from Evan, it.

702
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Says if the floor is too high, it actually puts

703
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: many of the teams.

704
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: Like the Pirates, in a tough spot.

705
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: They would actually make much less money than they do now. Right,

706
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: If you're forcing them to spend but you're not giving

707
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: them much revenue sharing, then it actually would put them

708
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: in a tougher spot and maybe that leads to a sale,

709
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: which would be a bonus for Pirates fans.

710
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, right, Just wake me up when it's over. Please

711
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: wake me up when this is all over. I mean,

712
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: this is going to dominate the headlines for the next

713
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: what eleven months, ten months until that December first, and

714
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: then after they lock them out, they'll blame the players

715
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: and say the players are too greedy, but in reality,

716
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: the owners will make more money if they get a

717
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: salary cap, right, so they can say that it's the players,

718
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: it's the players as the players, but at the end

719
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: of the day, it's the owners that are the greedy ones,

720
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: because they're the ones that are going to make more

721
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: money off of this. From the way that I've kind

722
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: of looked at this, now, I could be off, and

723
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: that's fine. Now listen to Am I a player and

724
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: do I want the players to get every dollar?

725
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: Duh?

726
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: Yes, of course I do. I just don't understand, Okay,

727
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: I get the floor thing. Okay, but you have to

728
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: understand that when a owner goes into a season and

729
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: let's say baseball in twenty twenty seven makes I'm gonna

730
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: use arbitrary numbers four billion dollars or easy man, Okay.

731
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: Way more.

732
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: You should say, I'm just this is just okay, we'll

733
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: go ten billion. Okay. Let's say they make ten billion

734
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven. Okay, they signed this new deal

735
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: where it's supposed to be fifty to fifty. Okay, well, then,

736
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: so the players are supposed to get five billion. The

737
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: owners are supposed to get five billion.

738
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: Right, does that include real estate?

739
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: No, because it's something. No, that's a different thing, doesn't it.

740
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's we only get the five billion to

741
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: go into whatever company that we are using as the

742
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: actual team, not the sales, not the tickets, not the

743
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: real estate. However, they break it up into their little shells. Okay,

744
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: and the players only get their five million, five billion,

745
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: excuse me? Okay, So that means there has to be

746
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: a guaranteed five billion dollars in salary spread throughout the

747
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: entire league, right, sure, what has you know the floor

748
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: has to cover that? Well, then the next year the

749
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: revenue goes to twelve billion. Does the CBA have a

750
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: built in escalator like there's so many? Well it will,

751
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: But then why okay, so if this is a perfect system, yeah,

752
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: why does the NBA striking going in NFL have gone

753
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: on strikes and lockouts? If they are all cap systems,

754
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: NHL same thing, they all have gone on strike. If

755
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: this is such a perfect system, why are there still

756
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: labor disputes?

757
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I'll continue to say this.

758
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: It just has to do with actually revenue sharing and

759
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: making the teams actually spend the revenue share.

760
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: And you ask, so that's hey, you don't get the

761
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: full hooks opened because I don't care what they say there,

762
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: trust me, they are the owners are smart about this.

763
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: They've been doing this for a long time. Ah, we're

764
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: losing money. Well, the Pittsburgh Pirates franchise is losing money,

765
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: but not on tick, not on parking, and not on

766
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: ad sales, and not on concessions, because that's not considered

767
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Pirates. That's Pittsburgh Pirates Concessions. That's owned by the

768
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: same people. But not that what the team is listening under, right,

769
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: And again I'm just using the Pirates as I don't

770
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: know that.

771
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: You're just putting it in vacuum. But yeah, it's hotels.

772
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: It's think about the Braves. The Braves actually have to

773
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: open their books.

774
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: Now.

775
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Atlanta Braves if that counts

776
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: all the battery money they make, but they made what

777
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: twenty five million or something last year and they had

778
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: a battery.

779
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we can see it all. They're profiting, They're

780
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: crushing it.

781
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

782
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: It's a good example of how teams are doing. And

783
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: they're profiting with the team and with the outside investments.

784
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: Like about the battery, the whole battery.

785
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, last word, crats.

786
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: I don't have one thing. The source said, these guys

787
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 4: are going to go for a cap no matter what

788
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: it takes. That's the part that's rarely talked about. Players

789
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: don't care about a floor. Like a cap system, you

790
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: have to have a floor. Great, the players aren't negotiating

791
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: the floor. What are the owners going to give up?

792
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 4: Are they willing to go to a cap and say

793
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: four years you've become a free agent? Where's that line?

794
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: What are they looking to give up? Owners hate free agency?

795
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 4: That was the original argument was no, we don't want

796
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 4: free agency. Players said yes, we need it. Kurt Flood

797
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: different guys that held out, that created the system that

798
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 4: we have. Now, what are they willing to give up? All?

799
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: You hear every owner complaining this is unfair. Fans are like, unfair, unfair, unfair. Well,

800
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 4: what happens if that star is gone now at twenty

801
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: four years old? When he made his debut at twenty Like,

802
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: are they willing to give that part of it up?

803
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: Because no matter what it takes, there's going to be

804
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: a monstrous, monstrous concession on the owner's side.

805
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: And if your capped on what you can make, guess

806
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: where most players are going to go once they're in

807
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: their mid twenties. A big market to have super teams

808
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: and make more on marketing dollars.

809
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: What or like what's happening in the NHL. They're going

810
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: to Florida, They're going to Vegas, and they're going to

811
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: Texas because they know state income so they make more money.

812
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: I mean That's one of the everyone's talking about in

813
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: the NHL. Why do you think the Panthers and the

814
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Lightning are winning every Stanley Cup and people in the

815
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: NHL will talk about it. It's because there's no state

816
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: income tax Vegas one one, right, because there's no state

817
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: income tax. So players are like, well, if I can

818
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: only make ten million and I can save ten percent

819
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: by living in Florida, I'm going to play for them.

820
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: Hell yeah for unless you know, for the same amount

821
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: of money.

822
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: Marlon's and Rais are about to be good. Let's go.

823
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: Marlin's and Raised are gonna maybe a destination.

824
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe We'll say, okay, just a minute here

825
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: to get to the Hall of Fame. So you had

826
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: two center fielders born a day apart, by the way,

827
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: and we talked about at the top and Andrew Jones

828
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: and Carlos Beltron getting in. The only other center fielders

829
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: that have been elected since nineteen eighty one, Ken Griffy

830
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: and Kirby Puckett. That is fucking crazy to ignore a

831
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: position like that for that long. You've got to be

832
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: kidding the age. I already did his thing yesterday on

833
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Tory Hunter. But there are other names too.

834
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: We talked about the.

835
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: Show Kenny lofton there's a lot of.

836
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: Go Bernie Williams should get some more letter Williams.

837
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's become Listen, this is my soapbox, and

838
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: it's become a popular It always has been a popularity contest,

839
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: but now it's even more of a popularity contest when

840
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: you start comparing numbers, which is fine, I get it.

841
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: But as long as you go into and say it's

842
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: a popularity contest, much like for years ago, Glove was

843
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: a popularity contest, right, certain awards were popular Star all

844
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: Star games are one hundred percent, especially when the players

845
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: started voting on him, it's one hundred percent of popularity content.

846
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's my boy. I played with him, I liked him.

847
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Let's go for him. He's having a decent start to

848
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: the season, right, all that stuff. All as long as

849
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: we understand that it's a popularity contest, that's fine. But

850
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: with the numbers that we used to count on being

851
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: the numbers to get you in are not there anymore

852
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: because of the length of contracts and guys playing not

853
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: as long and all that like three hundred wins, three

854
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: thousand hits, all that stuff, it's kind of gone by

855
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: the wayside. Now it's opening it up to more players.

856
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: And what causes it is then when these certain players

857
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: get in, then you have to go back and look

858
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 3: at other players and say, dang, he was just as good.

859
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: Why isn't he in? Right, So it may opens it

860
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: up to a broader conversation, which is fine, it's just

861
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: as a different conversation. Then. It used to be like

862
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: I used to watch a guy and be like, that

863
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: dude's a Hall of Fame. I played against Griffey Albert Poohols, right, Like,

864
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: those dudes are Hall of famers. When it gets to

865
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: and I look at him like, yeah, he's in the

866
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Not saying anybody this year or any

867
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: other year. I'm just saying there are times where you're

868
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: like and then when they don't. You know what. The

869
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: other thing I don't understand is if you don't get

870
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: if you get a certain amount of your first year

871
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: and then what do you get? Your numbers don't get

872
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: better ten years later.

873
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: That's always a thing.

874
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: It's like, again, I'm happy Carlos belt you and get in.

875
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: I'm very happy both of them. And Andrew Jones, you

876
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: and I know them both. I played with Andrew, I

877
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: played against Carlos for a long time. I am very

878
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: astatic that they got in. But then when you look

879
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: at and you know, you read articles about next year,

880
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: who's going to get in? Buster Posey's first year, he's

881
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: more likely going to get in. But then Chase Uttley

882
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: and you start digging in the numbers, Well, why did

883
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: Jeff kent not get in? Jeff Ki's numbers blow Chase

884
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: Dentley's out the water, right, But he didn't get in

885
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: until the Veterans Committee voted him in. Why because of

886
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: popularity the media didn't love him. Correct, it's it's just

887
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: the way it is. And as long as we accept that,

888
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: we can have a conversation about.

889
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Chase out Lee went from thirty nine point eight percent

890
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: last year to fifty nine point one percent this year.

891
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: He's going to get in very soon, if not next year,

892
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: the year after Felix Hernandez had a twenty six percent spike.

893
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: He's going to get in at some point over the

894
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: next few years. Then you look back, how does Felix

895
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Hernandez get in? And we don't give more love to

896
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Johan Santana, right, Johan Santana was freaking dominant. I mean,

897
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: so is Felix. But I'm like, those guys have good

898
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: comps in there. Even Bobby A Brave.

899
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: Actually shot up.

900
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: And tell me how the heck he's not in.

901
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: I have no idea how Posidon.

902
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: I think he was only on the ballot for one

903
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: year and got kicked off.

904
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's part of the problem, is the five percent

905
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: thing is kicking people off. Pedroia went up from eleven

906
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: to about twenty one percent. Cole Hamil's first year on

907
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: the ballot twenty four percent. He's going to get in.

908
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: These guys are going to get in.

909
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: Then I go back and people just say teammate Cole

910
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: Hamil's Mark Burley. Mark. Cole Hamils has like one hundred

911
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: and sixty win Mark Burley has two hundred.

912
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: And some wins. It's all.

913
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: There's other categories, I understand, But if you look at

914
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: their numbers, you stack them up there, you can make

915
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: an argument one or the other and say you throw

916
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: Andy Pettit in there. Right, they're all like the three

917
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: of them are like almost equal, right, But Cole Hamil's

918
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: gut is going coming on later, so now he's got

919
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: more time where's Andy Pett's kind of get to the

920
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: end or Burley's kind of starting to get to the

921
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: end now, right, and their numbers haven't jumped enough. I

922
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: have agree we need to get to may Day. We

923
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: could do forty hours on this.

924
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Speaker 2: I agree.

925
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Besides the popularity, I think that there was a time

926
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: period where the ballots were clocked. There was all this

927
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: steroid era of stuff going on, and actually those you know,

928
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: most of those guys didn't get in right, the big

929
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: names that we've talked about.

930
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Like Bombs and Clemens.

931
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Speaker 1: And then I think, now there's a market correction going on, krats,

932
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: you gotta boat some guys in. They're not hitting those

933
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: counting stats that you want to hit. So then you

934
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: start comparing some of these guys that are getting love

935
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: now and you look back to guys from ten to

936
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: fifteen years before, and you're like, wait, the comps match

937
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: up here, So maybe the Veterans Committee will clean that

938
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: up on.

939
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: The back end.

940
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, and there's always going to because you

941
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: take that next level of guys, that next layer of guys,

942
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: and then there's the next layer of guys that are close.

943
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 4: It's it's great, it's a great combo. I love it.

944
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: It is good debate, krats ats and then we're getting out.

945
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: I mean, DJ came on. I think a sneaky team team.

946
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: I can't wait till we get to there over under

947
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: on Winds, you know, with that good of a pitching staff.

948
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: Just watch them, just watch they might be pretty.

949
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Dece I can't believe that we did Monday show with

950
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: me out and we talked about the LA extension and

951
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't defend him. But whatever, we'll talk about it

952
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: again at some point. Trevor may may Day Live on FT.

953
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Right now, let's get out of here. Yeah, there we go,

954
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: three o'clock Eastern. Oh wait, that's already on, so check

955
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: it out part of the FT Network. Trevor's on for

956
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: the next hour. Give him some love, Stay here for

957
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: more baseball talk. I'm sure he'll talk about Gody's contract

958
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: and a lot more. Tomorrow. Brent Rooker is back on

959
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: the show, looking forward.

960
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: To another guy from Mississippi. By the way, just way,

961
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Speaker 3: I went to Misssippi State

962
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Speaker 2: Just saying, sip the sit they can hit