WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Final Show In Oxnard 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.240 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.160 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:18.480 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.640 It's time for the Lunch Break on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:29.880 Com with Nick Eaton, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derrek Eagleton. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.560 It is Wednesday, August sixteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.120 number twenty six. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.519 I am Derrek Eagleton, join by Nick Amber Dave. We 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.519 are live in Oxnard, California. It is our final day 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.159 of shows here from Oxnard. Tomorrow we start packing things up. Friday, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.199 the team heads back to Dallas and they got a 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.159 game Saturday night, and on Monday they start practices or 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.440 training camp Phase two. I guess is what it would 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.600 be back at the Star in Frisco. How how's everybody 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.319 doing this? Good? And see the end? And see the end. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.600 It's been four weeks, four long weeks of training camp 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.880 out here, and today we're actually going to wrap that 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.720 up on the show. I have a series of questions 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.560 I'm going to ask you guys that we'll give fans 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.160 a good overall perspective of what you think after four 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.000 weeks of watching this team practice of a couple preseason games, 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.039 and just give him a general overview of what we 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.240 think of the team coming out of training camp. Before 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:26.760 we get to that, though, there are a couple of 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.360 news items we need to hit. We'll start first with 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.440 Ezekiel Elliott. He has now officially done what we knew 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.880 he was going to do, which is appealed the six 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:39.399 game suspension. At this point, I think the the appeal 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.560 will be heard by the NFL sometime between now and 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.120 August twenty ninth. There's been a lot of news thought 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.360 that's been developing, and the story keeps developing over this week. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.880 A lot of news about different things that we've heard 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.560 about seem to be things that that are coming from 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:01.200 Ezekiel Elliott's camp. Just talking about their position in all 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.440 of this day. You've talked about some of this stuff. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.800 You're not talked about some of this stuff before we 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.320 went on the air. Tell me a little bit about 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.720 your thoughts there. Well, I think if you go back 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.160 when this was first happening, we kind of mentioned that, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.480 you know, if you appeal and maybe even later in 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.440 the future if this goes into actual court, that this 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.080 is a thing that could get pretty ugly. It already 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.680 seems like that's starting to happen. Every day this week 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.160 since this you know suspension was announced on Friday, you've 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.720 seen stuff trickling into the news. You know, four Ward 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.960 Star Telegram has a story, Yahoo Sports has a story. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.919 This morning, you're hearing Ezekiel elliott side of the story. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.720 You're hearing, you know, the pushback from the league suspension, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.280 what the league said Elliott did or didn't do. You're 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.079 hearing now, you know, information discrediting maybe what his ex 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.639 girlfriend you know, is implying in these accounts and things 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.040 like that. And actually, literally we haven't had a chance 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.080 to talk about this, Like within the last ten minutes. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.240 Nfl PR put out a statement basically saying, you know, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.200 we've seen these stories. This is a common tactic that 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.120 people do to try to discredit victims of abuse, and 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.679 they actually called it shameful. These you know, these stories 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.560 that are coming out that kind of tell Elliot's camp 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.679 side of the story. I don't I mean, I don't 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.160 think it's a coincidence that we hadn't heard much about 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.400 this all summer, and in the five days since Elliott's 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.000 suspension was announced, you're seeing it playing out of the news, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.959 and you know, far be it. Like I said, I 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.760 don't feel comfortable dictating who's right and who's wrong in 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.040 the entire situation. You know, the information is out there 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.680 for anybody to read it and decide for themselves. I 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.839 think it's obviously a lot of conflicting information and it's 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.480 hard to really sift and come to a concrete conclusion 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.480 about it. But like we said, when you're talking about appeals, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.760 Elliot's camp, Ezekiel, Elliott, his representation, the NFLPA, they want 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.600 to they want to make a case for lessening his 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.600 suspension or throwing it out all together. The NFL obviously 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.680 wants to stand firm on their ground that they feel 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.480 they are justified in suspending him for six games, And 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.080 you're seeing it play out in the news right now, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.360 and the longer it goes on, I think it'll be 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.040 even more contentious. So it's a hell of a start 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.080 to the whole situation and we'll see where it goes 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.680 from there. But it's been an interesting few days and 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.440 we will see how Ezekiel Eliot will and his representatives 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.839 will handle this situation because obviously, when you start talking 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.279 about appeals, there's no guarantee that anything will change, the 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.719 same NFL infrastructure that made the decision that this was 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.960 the right thing to do is going to hear the appeal. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.640 Whether it's a different person or not, it's still the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.200 same apparatus. And so we'll see how far. We'll see 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.640 how far Ezekuel wants to take that well and on 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.920 that it comes to. It's impossible to predict, but it's 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.560 I mean, their goal is they're going after the credibility 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.000 of the person that's saying that he did these things 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.200 that merrit a six game suspension, and you've seen that Monday, Tuesday, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.039 and now Wednesday, and now you've seen the NFL answer it. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.280 They kind of fire their own shot back at wherever 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.760 this news is coming from. And like I said, I mean, 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.480 this is three days into it over an NFL appeal, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.360 This is still just the NFL's infrastructure. If this goes 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.719 into actual court, it could be really nasty. So it's, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.520 like I said, it's going to be interesting to watch 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.280 how it unfolds. All right, let's let's talk one other thing. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.480 We needed to hit real quick Jaalen Smith. Yesterday, Jerry 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.119 Jones says that Jalen Smith will actually play this week. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.760 Talk to me, Nick, I know you were you were there, Dave, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.080 I think you were there as well. Talk about how 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.760 much you expect him to play. Is this going to 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.159 be a quick in and out and do a couple 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.040 of plays or is he going to play an extended 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.000 period of time. Well, I think that you know, what's 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.440 probably going to happen with him is that I don't 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.880 expect him to actually start the game, but he will 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.360 get some time out there, and he'll do it with 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.839 some um, you know players that you know, for some 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.080 first teamers in there, just depending on how long did 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.760 they play those guys. But I would imagine that they're 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.599 not just gonna put him in there, but strictly second 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.960 team guys. He'll get there, he'll get to play, and 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.440 they want to see him kind of move around a 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.880 little bit. It'll probably be a scripted thing. Maybe eight 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.680 to ten plays, maybe it's a few more, you know, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.800 depending on how serieses go. Yeah, I would. I mean, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.040 it's hard to say because you don't know how long 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.000 a series is gonna last, you know, if like, is 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:17.320 it everybody, sorry, something's happening. Yeah, we're good. What we're saying. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.000 If he gets in there and it's if he goes 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.640 if he goes in there and it's a three and out, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.040 then I would imagine he'll come back out, you know. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.360 I mean I would imagine, Yeah, they want to between 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.760 eight and fifteen plays. I certainly he's not going to 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.520 be one of those guys that plays the whole back 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.560 into the second half. I think that's way too big 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.400 of a jump from what he's done out here. But 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.960 he's definitely shown that he can handle I don't know, one, two, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.080 or maybe even three series in a game. I think 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.479 that's reasonable. It'll be interesting to see just because we 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.559 obviously haven't been able to see him in game action 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.159 since he's been on the on the Cowboys roster, so right, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.200 this will be interesting from that standpoint. And I remember 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.000 we talked about him, um close to when we got 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.440 here to training camp. Has y'all's opinion changed a little 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.640 bit more about him, the optimism of him play this 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.919 year and playing during this I guess first per season. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.440 The game I think a little bit. I mean, I 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.560 kept noticing that that gallop that that he was calling 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.680 a run and it's still sort of there. But but 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.160 I think that might just kind of be his run too, 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:20.080 because when he's shown out here on the practice field, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.760 when he needs to get from point A to point B, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.640 he can do that. He can do that pretty quickly, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.720 and he kind of his thing is he knows where 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.200 a point B is gonna gonna be because that's his 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.520 His awareness is so good, and so I've seen him 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.960 moving quick and he can definitely react. But when he 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.400 is kind of jogging a running, he kind of looks 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.160 like a cult a little bit. So I don't think 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.840 my opt I don't think my outlook has changed about 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:47.160 the immediate future, like September tenth or seventeenth, or twenty 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.480 fourth or fifth, because they play Monday night that week. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.040 But I feel a lot better just in the long term, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.960 I mean you think. I mean, he's still really fresh 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.680 into his career. He has not played an NFL game, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.640 And I keep thinking back to that report that came 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.600 out right when we got to training camp that he's, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.480 you know, somewhere between sixty and eighty percent and he 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.360 needs he needs more time before he's at one hundred percent. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.960 And I feel more optimistic than ever that he can 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.520 get there. I wasn't sure about that when we got here, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.600 but just watching the progress he's been able to make 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.680 out here, I don't think they're blowing smoke that they 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.360 think he can be one hundred percent. And this is 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.600 without the nerve being completely read. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.320 that's exactly he's obvious. I mean, he's obviously not one 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.240 hundred percent roaring ready to go, or else he'd be 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.920 doing way more. But I'm way more optimistic than I 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.760 ever have been that he might get there one day. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.560 And all along the trainers have said. I remember talking 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.160 to the guy that's kind of been helping him the 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.360 most there, Britt Brown. He does all the rehabs, and 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.559 he said, before, you know, I'm not trying to get 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.880 him to play sixteen games, like, that's not my goal. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.480 My goal is to get him to play ten years 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.280 in this league. But so the long game. So yeah, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.520 so it doesn't matter if he's not ready for week one. Okay, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.080 if he's not ready, if he's if we have to 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.800 put him on pup, which they did not, but if 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.920 he that was way back then he has to miss 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.520 six games so be it. I'm trying to get him 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.640 to play a full career here and get him to 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.000 that point. So that's the goal with him. The fact 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.360 that he's going to play this third game in the 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.920 preseason and you know, he's probably gonna play for Week 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.600 one and you know, against the Giants in some role, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.600 I think that that's a win right there. That's a 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.800 success probably. Yeah. No, well, I mean and even now 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.800 after everything we've seen, I still I think you're making 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.280 a mistake if you expect him to be a Pro 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.640 Bowl linebacker in September. But like I said, I'm way 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.520 more optimistic that he could play at a Pro Bowl 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.080 level later in his career. I mean, you're seeing the 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.280 steps and they've all been encouraging to this point. And 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.000 the Cowboys are obviously very patient, and I think if 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.440 fans can just take a patient approach and you know, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.560 not expect to move mountains right there at the start 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.880 of this second season, really his first season, I'm starting 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.720 to feel good that this could pay dividends in the 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.280 long run. Yeah, we will definitely get our first chance 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.440 to see Jayleen Smith this weekend. Cowboys. I will play 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.040 on Saturday night versus the cults, So that will be 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.920 the first time that you guys as fans, will also 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.040 get a chance to see him as a cowboy, So 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.920 that should be fun, seed Doc and see Dak's gonna 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.920 play as well. There will be a lot more I 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.800 would assume a lot more of the veterans players that 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.600 we haven't seen a lot of here in the preseason 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.920 that will be playing this weekend. Maybe not for a 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.240 prolonged period of time, but at least out on the field. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.920 It's starting to feel a little bit more like NFL football. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.440 All right, let's go ahead and take our first break. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.000 When we come back, I do want to get into 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.520 some of these camp questions. We're going to talk about 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.720 just the big picture of what's been happening out here 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.360 over the last four weeks and give you guys an 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.560 idea of what you can expect heading into the season. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.040 We'll do that when we come right back. 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That's the one most cut 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.760 out to be a cowboy. Stetson hats are handmaid right 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.040 here in Texas and it been on cowboys heads for 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.640 over one hundred and fifty years. The rest of you 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.240 can visit stetson dot com slash cowboy to find a 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.800 retailer nearest you. Back to the lunch Free Welcome Back. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.040 It's the second segment of The Break Live from Oxnard, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.959 California's final show of training camp for two seventeen. We'll 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.600 be heading back to the Star and getting started back 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.880 there practices next week. Let's go ahead and get into 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.600 this camp rap segment of the show. I have a 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.720 couple of questions. I'm gonna gonna wrap Yeah, we're gonna 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.679 wrap this up in a pretty a w. Yes, we're 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.560 gonna wrap this up in a pretty little bow for 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.040 all of our fans out there. So I'm gonna give 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.360 these questions. I have some answers that I'm gonna give 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:39.959 you that you guys can choose, so it'll be kind 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.079 of like multiple choice. But feel free if you don't 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.079 like my answers to throw in whatever you like, Dave, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.120 because I know you always have something else to say, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.760 So feel free to throw in whatever other answer you'd 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.959 like to throw, and we'll give people a good idea 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.280 of what's been happening for the last four weeks. First question, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.480 which position are you least concerned about after watching this 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.280 team for four weeks? Wide receiver, offensive line, tight in 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:08.720 or running back? Least concerned wide wide receiver, Yeah, ode 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:15.320 receiver because there's the is the answer based off of 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:16.960 the ones you gave us or just yeah, And you 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.520 can feel free if you think there's another one that 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:24.880 wasn't included in that least concerned position you least concerned about, y'all, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.800 go ahead with your receiver. They're loaded. They got you 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.800 have Desdas looks like DEAs And we joked, yeah, I 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.120 mean we spent and I see all your tweets. Don't 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.560 worry like I'm not ignoring you, like we probably spent 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.840 five ten minutes kind of like is Das having like 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.360 ads camp? Yeah, y'all did go there. And then he 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:49.640 goes out good. He sometimes he wasn't, but he sure 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.400 is now because he's making he's doing crazy circus catches. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.080 He's just he's dunking it over the goal posts. Taking 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.680 photos of people. Yeah, a little nervous by that because 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.360 last time he dunked, I know, two years ago. Yeah, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:07.440 he was like, yeah, well he was out his hamstring 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.880 looks fine. Um, he's been awesome. He looks like he's 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.280 at Dad's level. You got two burners who can take 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.720 the top off the defense. Before he got hurt, and 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.240 it's not a serious injury. Bryce Butler was great. Terrence 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.560 Williams has been consistent. I know we haven't seen Switzer 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.600 in training camp, but I've seen enough from him in 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.720 OTAs and just in general to feel comfortable. I'm not 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.720 saying he's as good as Beasley, but you got two 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.520 of those slot mismatch type guys. And then I got 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.880 a big old man crush on Noah Brown too. He's 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.560 had a great camp. And that doesn't even mention Andy Jones, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.560 who I don't know how you even find a place 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.120 for him, Hopefully he can. Him and Noah Brown both 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.280 might be practice squad guys, I don't know, but they 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.720 got seven really solid looking wide receivers. Yeah, it's got 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.040 to be that position unless you're gonna, you know, go 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.200 punter or a a kicker or something like that, because no 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.280 other spot when you're looking at it has The only 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.360 question market receiver is number six if they will even 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.280 have a number six, and then will it be Brown 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.720 or Andy Jones? Because these five guys were making the team. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.360 Switzer is a bit of a question but not from 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.240 making the team. But there's a question mark around him 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.680 just because he's missed so much time, right, I don't 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.480 think so really question mark of what I'm sorry, there's 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.120 a question mark around Switzer from the standpoint of how 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.920 much can he really be expected to control missing so much? 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.400 I thought you were trying to say he wouldn't make 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.520 the team, and no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.200 you wouldn't do that. But but but I'm just saying no, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.400 I'm just saying from that standpoint, I think when a 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.600 rookie misses that much training, yea, at the receiver position, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.440 I would think there's some effect to that. Yeah, But 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.520 so that just means if he's not ready, then that's 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.880 this one package that they don't use that as much. Yeah. Yeah. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.920 And now punt return, he's supposed to do that because 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.680 I know who it's not going to return punts And 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.200 that's all ll over back there. Hell, he took some 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.640 else against them did. I just kept thinking he's at 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.320 some point you're gonna but even I mean even if 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.960 he's not ready to go, or if they don't feel 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.000 comfortable with him for week one, Cole Beasley can do it. Yeah, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.360 that's true. Yeah, that's the least concerning position. Okay, which 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:10.720 position are you most concerned? Running back, defensive line, defensive backs? Um, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.000 I will say the defensive line. And there's a lot 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.679 of question marks there because you got this sense you 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.960 got guys practicing out here that aren't going to play. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.639 You got guys that aren't practicing that are going to play, 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.720 and Tyrone Crawford. So it's just it's kind of a 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.480 you're counting on Tapper. That's dicey. You know. You got 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.320 these young guys that you want, you know, and then 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.800 then when someone starts to play, well, I'll Stephen Pie 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.679 doing well, then he's got a knee kind of flares up. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.440 You got Cedric Thorton in there, then he's there has 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.120 been no consistency there and no players that you can 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.000 just kind of count on a go he'll be there, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.480 wait till he comes back. You don't give Lawrence that 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.240 kind of no for now, No, no, no, because Lawrence 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.600 is a solid player, but they drafted him and they 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.040 need him to be a really good player and he 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:01.199 hasn't shown that. Collins Leik, Yeah, I think he's the 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.280 one that you're the most excited about. But he's plays 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.080 defensive tackle and he's gonna if he'll be a beast 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.960 if he gets five sacks. And you know what you're 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.160 saying is that's not enough. Yeah, from a standpoint amount 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.360 of pressure, you really there's just so many question marks there. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:17.840 You don't know where it's going to come from. Yeah, 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.600 there are very very few guys and some you just 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.280 mentioned that you can kind of count on it and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.239 that are good. But aside from that, I mean, you 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.160 don't really have anyone. And it's kind of concerning, well 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.880 pretty concerning compared to you. How they were last year. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:37.480 They were not They weren't great, So it's not much 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.280 better at all this year. Have you ever seen a 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.520 good defense that didn't have a great player, just a 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:50.040 good defense, a great defense. Defense of this team has 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:54.760 a great player, Shaun Lee, good point. They were I 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.800 mean they were good last year. They had one great player. 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.119 They were good. They weren't great, they were good, So 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.679 that would be my rebuttal. Yeah, but shell Lee, I 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.120 mean that's about it. Really, You're no argument here. I'm 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:12.240 just other than that. Right, But he's a great player, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.800 but he's not a difference maker, not really well. Linebacker, 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.920 even more so than running back. Linebackers, even the best linebackers, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.400 the best linebackers that have ever played the game. Let's 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.119 say you know, from from the eighties on and you 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:32.720 name the great linebackers, most of them had a great 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.760 and like a pro bowled somebody up front. It's but 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.159 if we still go if we still go back to 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.960 the argument I made a few weeks ago, that doesn't 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.640 you don't have to have a great defense in order 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.159 to have success as a as a team, like you 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.320 don't even Super Bowl success. I mean you mentioned the 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.000