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Speaker 3: This brother here man comes from one of the craziest
Speaker 3: cities in the world. He's been putting this down since
Speaker 3: two thy and eleven. Everybody in the industry, nobody has
Speaker 3: nothing bad to say about him. That I that I
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Speaker 1: Going on. What's the word? What's going on? Good man?
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. Man, Okay, you're a funny
Speaker 1: Marcael y'all good? Yeah heah yeah, man, So what happened?
Speaker 3: Just tell the people because I know you did a
Speaker 3: phone call like explain to some of it. But Jame,
Speaker 3: you got get a drink. I want to ask stories
Speaker 3: with a club, so down a limit. Ah, So what happened?
Speaker 1: So look, Marco first and foremost like that's my man
Speaker 1: had a relationship probably to doing the interview and shit.
Speaker 2: So originally Sizzle was supposed.
Speaker 1: To did the interview like okay for the episode and
Speaker 1: they had it like his production staff told us to
Speaker 1: like troll them like it was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: surprise to come on that to control him. Oh weren't
Speaker 1: originally just own bullshit with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But we was a little.
Speaker 1: Like off the salt was you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: extra overboard. But the whole thing was to come on
Speaker 1: there and like intimidate him on his own show, like
Speaker 1: pulling him on him, put on him. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: spoke to him like before it even came out, and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we was good, Like I
Speaker 1: ain't know where if it was like a confusion between
Speaker 1: our staff and his production team where they was thinking
Speaker 1: we didn't want it to come out.
Speaker 2: We was like, no, it's cool. I ain't really tripping.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, Like public perception and what
Speaker 1: people going to take from it, that's another thing, But
Speaker 1: that's the name of the game. That's what come with it,
Speaker 1: you feel, I'm saying, we got to be able to
Speaker 1: take that you feel. But it wasn't like no bad
Speaker 1: blood or no no shit like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I know they was because he was
Speaker 1: saying like after it came came out, like no, take
Speaker 1: it down, take it down, like we ain't never do that,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't never tell him like nah, bro, we
Speaker 1: got us looking crazy and some shing like that.
Speaker 2: It was still all love.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What's you surprise how I
Speaker 1: l that went? Yeah? I was wherever was you at?
Speaker 1: Well was when it happened, Like I mean like when
Speaker 1: you was in Atlanta. I had hit him like I
Speaker 1: hit him and told him like no, it's good. You
Speaker 1: knowee what I'm saying, like the ship with with with
Speaker 1: the Watch and all that ship, Like, bro, I got
Speaker 1: you up. You know what I'm saying. You know, it's
Speaker 1: had on something. At one point, Bro, we was doing
Speaker 1: so what you say, But no, I was like, it's
Speaker 1: all love, bro. I know, like had came out to
Speaker 1: the internet. It looked like Nigga was on some bullying ship.
Speaker 1: That's that's that was a word that was thrown around,
Speaker 1: like bullying, and that's what That's when I really like
Speaker 1: took yours. But I didn't want to like put nothing
Speaker 1: on the internet or like I don't know how to
Speaker 1: really play the internet, like go back and forth, even
Speaker 1: when it's defending myself. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I know, if it's real love between brun we got
Speaker 1: to understand that that was all that mattered to me
Speaker 1: as long as he knew it was the respect between
Speaker 1: us still, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean me as outside of looking in I saw it.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a joke that everybody was in
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like he always too that was come
Speaker 1: and like troll him and intimidate on the show. But
Speaker 1: then when they tried to spend it like we was
Speaker 1: on some bullying ship, That's when I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: ain't really with that you feel me because I got
Speaker 1: fans that probably you know what I'm saying, situations with bullying,
Speaker 1: and I ain't with that.
Speaker 3: I got kids, right, because he always does that awkward
Speaker 3: stare right like he like like he tried to make
Speaker 3: you seem like you ain't making sense.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm scared of that show.
Speaker 2: That's his whole interview style.
Speaker 1: You got really like like the people who had the
Speaker 1: best interviews with him, the people who could like troll
Speaker 1: him back to switch it back on. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: we taught.
Speaker 3: Let's make no noise for you now. Now we all
Speaker 3: heard the rumors of uh, you supposed to be going
Speaker 3: to jail for five years by the grace of God.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you motherfucking you. You was
Speaker 3: on vacation, but you left on probation. Goddamn goddamn drink
Speaker 3: that Jesus Oh ship, that swiggling like a catwoman.
Speaker 1: Holy mo. So what happened?
Speaker 3: Like you gotta be fuckingstatic, man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, you know God man for real, we
Speaker 1: got to get all praise to God for show, but
Speaker 1: just you know, staying alone, staying the course and a
Speaker 1: lot of.
Speaker 2: Money for show.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying a lot of to stay free,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, it was taking accountability.
Speaker 1: You feel me for a minor role in some ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and just me being a
Speaker 1: kid being I aid to the fact I don't like
Speaker 1: everybody that know me, and I'm being personal like I
Speaker 1: did some ship.
Speaker 2: I really was able to sit across from.
Speaker 1: My judge and tell them, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I barely know, not even use my cell phone, like
Speaker 1: I ain't never committed fraud against nobody. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You feel me like I was accepting full
Speaker 1: accountability for whatever my role was in the whole situation.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't doing that to
Speaker 1: further my career or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: She's doing PPP loss.
Speaker 1: Nah, they thought I was doing some shit like basically
Speaker 1: using funds or fraud or cards or whatever identity of
Speaker 1: some shit to fun videos and shit like that. I've
Speaker 1: been making money since I was sixteen years old, off
Speaker 1: rap already. I was already well off when that whole
Speaker 1: situation to court. You feel what I'm saying, It was
Speaker 1: basically me paying for goods like basically like if I'm
Speaker 1: a jet, I'm paying half for the shit. Like if
Speaker 1: it's forty thousand, I paid twenty thousand. I gotta have
Speaker 1: cash already to do this shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like it was a situation like that, but
Speaker 1: I was seventeen eighteen at the time. I'm twenty eight
Speaker 1: you feel me, my judge, No, I never even think
Speaker 1: about committing any type of crimes. I'm a real father,
Speaker 1: bade and citizen. I pay taxes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's really just with me accepting full
Speaker 1: accountability as a man in my and my judge really
Speaker 1: knowing you know what I'm saying, I'm trying to still
Speaker 1: straight and be on the up and up, you feel me,
Speaker 1: And really I believe in being vulnerable and just talking
Speaker 1: about situations because you know where to help the next
Speaker 1: generation that helped you, somebody looking up to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because you got to just accept
Speaker 1: about it and whatever role or whatever you do in
Speaker 1: life and whatever is, you got to be able to
Speaker 1: just stand up and take whatever punishment if there is
Speaker 1: a punishment. You know what I'm saying that My judge
Speaker 1: knew I was willing to do that, and by the
Speaker 1: grace of God, he let me walk out black judge,
Speaker 1: white judge, white judge space noise for white judge. I
Speaker 1: don't know my judge, Sure, he definitely gave me grace,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and my family in there,
Speaker 1: and I was able to walk.
Speaker 3: Out a free man. God damn. One thing that's just
Speaker 3: so like me going through life.
Speaker 1: Right. I always know, like.
Speaker 3: The guy with the ice gral, he's probably not the
Speaker 3: guy that likes he's throwing up a front. One thing
Speaker 3: about you, You smile, and I believe your smile. That
Speaker 3: lets me know that you've been through a lot.
Speaker 1: Appreciated bro, because one of the motherfuckers smile and it's
Speaker 1: sincere like when you smile, I smile like I've seeing
Speaker 1: you Like, I'm like, yeah, nigga, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're going through. You was listening to my song.
Speaker 3: One day more than he was having a Puerto Rican
Speaker 3: was having a goddamn ball. I was like, Damn, I'm
Speaker 3: not I'm not there, but.
Speaker 1: I can tell without you.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to be bragging or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: I can tell you've been through things? Is rap something
Speaker 3: that is it all that you thought it was gonna be?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like on the flip side though, like me
Speaker 1: like what I mean and what I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna be as far as like the pros that come
Speaker 1: with it, nah, but like just the responsibility and what
Speaker 1: you take on and just like actually like I believe
Speaker 1: in like purpose and that like I really feel like
Speaker 1: I was meant to do anything I'm doing that while
Speaker 1: adversity everything I ever had to overcome. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: able to smell. That's why I just be so grateful
Speaker 1: for any situation. I take the bad with the good,
Speaker 1: and I don't really look at the bad like it's
Speaker 1: a bad. I just try to learn whatever situation I'm
Speaker 1: going through so I could come out on top of it.
Speaker 1: Like that's why I'm able to just be able to
Speaker 1: smell through all the bullshit. So what I mean like
Speaker 1: I felt like what I mean by when I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that it was everything I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: because I really had vision for this, even as when
Speaker 1: I first like made a decision like all, I bet
Speaker 1: I'm finna really do this raption?
Speaker 2: And what age was that when you made that decision.
Speaker 1: Come to yeah, like on the serious tip, like yeah,
Speaker 1: like sixteen years old, six ten years old, for real,
Speaker 1: for real. It was like I always had the vision
Speaker 1: to be this one day, Like I always wanted to
Speaker 1: do it independing route better on myself. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I always hear aspirations of being able to
Speaker 1: be in a conversation with like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying my peers in the greatest, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm saying this because I'm a humble nigga.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump the gun, but I always
Speaker 1: wanted to be considered like a legend, like I looked
Speaker 1: up to the holes the waynes and I want to
Speaker 1: be considered like you're letting niggas, You're letting your nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I got for real though, bro,
Speaker 1: So I knew what it was gonna take to get there.
Speaker 1: So I took everything that came with this ship, all
Speaker 1: the ugly and I never complained about it. I just
Speaker 1: did it, and it always benefited me because now I'm here,
Speaker 1: Like you said, you know what I'm saying, So it's
Speaker 1: like that's what I mean on the flip side of it,
Speaker 1: because it.
Speaker 2: Ain't always like glittering gold.
Speaker 1: People on the outside looking in and they think this
Speaker 1: ship sweet, like it's, oh yeah, what's some of the ugly?
Speaker 1: So people, the ugly is just being able to take
Speaker 1: a loss, whatever the loss is, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because all this ship come with losses and trials and tribulations,
Speaker 1: being able to take that, especially as a man and
Speaker 1: a leader. Like I was just talking to my brother
Speaker 1: the other day, like everybody don't got the ability to
Speaker 1: be able to lead in general, Like not even with
Speaker 1: no music, just your household, everybody in a family. I
Speaker 1: just told them, like, everybody gonna stop what they're doing
Speaker 1: and follow you if that's what you say. If they
Speaker 1: if you say go left, you people gonna go left.
Speaker 1: Like the ability to lead. I always heard that. So
Speaker 1: when you got that, it's a lot of weight that
Speaker 1: come on your shoulders. You know, I've been in that roads.
Speaker 1: It's alway sixteen seventeen years old. So it's like all
Speaker 1: the ugly, that's the downs that come with that shit,
Speaker 1: because it's like you gotta deal with family, you gotta
Speaker 1: deal with music, you gotta make all the sacrifices to
Speaker 1: be like, oh what a by any means type of
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, shit attitude. You feel me
Speaker 1: like it's whatever it takes for me to get there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you might hurt the people you love along the way.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you might lose people along the way. But by
Speaker 1: any means, I'm still gonna get that you feel I'm
Speaker 1: saying a lot of people don't really get that drive
Speaker 1: and that dedication and that shit like a gift and
Speaker 1: a curse because they put a lot of stress on you.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of stress on me since I
Speaker 1: was a kid, but I always just took that ship
Speaker 1: and rode it and like made that ship look easy.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like niggas say I'm smiling, but it's
Speaker 1: like you don't know what a nigga going through. I'm
Speaker 1: just grateful for everything that comes with this ship. You
Speaker 1: feel me. So, we can't have a bad day as
Speaker 1: a rapper. You can't have a bad You can't have
Speaker 1: a bad if you're not in the mood to take
Speaker 1: a picture, to stay homes over with, don't do through
Speaker 1: the shows, don't go You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: can't have no bad days no matter what you feel me.
Speaker 1: You know how that ship. Yet when you think Drake
Speaker 1: is sending that hook, well, I'm gonna get old Drake. Ass.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's coming broke, broke, I really
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I got out of like the
Speaker 1: mood of just sending songs though I'll be having so
Speaker 1: much going on.
Speaker 3: So you're trying to tell you Drake actually to send
Speaker 3: a song, and you said.
Speaker 1: No, no, Hell, I sent them the song. I sent
Speaker 1: them songs. But I really feel like I really just
Speaker 1: get in anyway, like type of time bro on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we say the same stupid thing. Stud that's that nineties.
Speaker 1: That's why the music came out.
Speaker 3: Better back then is because we didn't have the option
Speaker 3: to send versus like if you have to do a
Speaker 3: record with Fat Joe Chemisal.
Speaker 1: I had to go to they had to go to
Speaker 1: their studio. They had to go to your studio. Chemistry,
Speaker 1: and you build a bond that comes through in the music.
Speaker 1: I feel like my best ship come out like that. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you're together. You got a lot of features. You're telling me.
Speaker 1: Most of your features is yeah, I'll be here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll pull up, You'll go to hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay for real, we're gonna get to that. You've
Speaker 3: got a lot of features. Goddamn it, everybody hip hop
Speaker 3: love you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I heard you say one time you don't think hip
Speaker 3: hop love you back.
Speaker 1: I was saying that on some like not the industry,
Speaker 1: but not the love that you actually get from being
Speaker 1: in hip hop. What I mean, like you know how
Speaker 1: that should go, like they love you, they hate you,
Speaker 1: then they love you again. Yeah, everything over come. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the adversaries. So if you don't know that, people
Speaker 1: don't take that, That's what I mean, Like, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at it like they don't love you back, so
Speaker 1: you don't expect nothing. Just do you you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Nah, I'm talking about like nigga, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't because I know you strategy. That's that's how you that.
Speaker 1: That's why I keep.
Speaker 3: I can say, never play talk about yourself wrong because
Speaker 3: your body doesn't understand your pot You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying saying?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Deep?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, let me get that right there, because
Speaker 1: with thinking that, you know, sometimes it just put you
Speaker 1: in the manse that like you're not being as motivated,
Speaker 1: like don't care. You know what I'm saying, like I'll
Speaker 1: be trying to put myself in the man said to
Speaker 1: always be motivated. I don't want to have no date
Speaker 1: just thinking about negative ship too, right, I gotta do
Speaker 1: some like productive in some type of way.
Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me ask you about about
Speaker 3: your city, right, one that I used to go to
Speaker 3: the Chicago. You know, I got family in Chicago. Got
Speaker 3: Spanish and Black family in Chicago. They don't talk to
Speaker 3: each other, but yeah, they gang, they opposite gangs.
Speaker 1: They don't fucking each other.
Speaker 4: And I'm not making they're gonna try to bring them
Speaker 4: together to the They're not family, right, Oh, I guess
Speaker 4: you got he got Puerto Rican family that are family
Speaker 4: that don't talk. Don't you got that too? You got
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 3: But Shottown, Chicago is a beautiful city. But then it's it's.
Speaker 1: The flip side show. Do you still live in shot Town? No? No,
Speaker 1: hell no, I just go back to go visit family
Speaker 1: and go take care of benness I've been.
Speaker 2: That was one of the things that like I did first,
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 1: Just here to get in a mental headspace where I
Speaker 1: couldn't be in Chicago that shots too. It was crowding me.
Speaker 1: I got out of Chicago when I was like twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Yeah, I've been at it. You
Speaker 1: believe that most rapids downfall is staying in their own
Speaker 1: city for sure? Yeah, because it ain't even got a
Speaker 1: lot to do it to. Hey, it's just the you know,
Speaker 1: the comfortability too. You get too comfortable around your people.
Speaker 1: Everybody know you. You get accessible like a lot of
Speaker 1: this ship just you know, like you got to lead
Speaker 1: or become bigger than the city. I tell you I can't.
Speaker 1: When I go to New York.
Speaker 3: It's the worst thing for me because one I don't
Speaker 3: know how to not answer the phone right.
Speaker 1: Like, I got that problem. Got that problem? Oh, get
Speaker 1: out of that. Get out of that.
Speaker 3: I've been going through it for twenty years. You don't
Speaker 3: want that problem. You gotta learn how to cut people off.
Speaker 3: I don't because I trying eventually still answer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be with this dude. I know.
Speaker 1: I know what. I posted a picture at Newark Airport.
Speaker 1: This dude hits me. I tell him where the hotel is.
Speaker 1: He's like cocaine. Still, he just left the block. Why
Speaker 1: why did I do this? What am I trying to
Speaker 1: prove did I still got connections. It's the comfortability, I'm
Speaker 1: telling your nigga, just comfortable like these my people's holy molyam.
Speaker 3: But so for a person who's never been to shot Town,
Speaker 3: can you describe it?
Speaker 1: I always do. Like everybody like that's never been there,
Speaker 1: they feel like it's just like the wild wild West
Speaker 1: running around there everywhere. It's really like he said, that
Speaker 1: ship super beautiful. You got good ass food, a lot
Speaker 1: of good restaurants. When I'm when I'm in the city,
Speaker 1: I don't really go to my old neighborhood. I'll be
Speaker 1: over there. You feel me. I be low key downtown
Speaker 1: and all the beautiful parts and ship. So it's like
Speaker 1: you go down there, it's got good shopping, good food.
Speaker 1: You feel me. But you just gotta like be in
Speaker 1: that realm of things. You feel me. Once you go
Speaker 1: to Chicago and you want some tourist ship trying to
Speaker 1: go ride through old Block, everybody the city's anybody try
Speaker 1: to do that, and now you feel like tourists and ship.
Speaker 1: I used to do that every place. I used to
Speaker 1: do that too. As soon as it's to do, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the trenches immediately, You're gonna go to
Speaker 1: whatever hood right there. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know but if we knowing what's came with that
Speaker 1: back then it's before the really like when I started
Speaker 1: traveling twenty eleven, twenty twelve, going to New York, going
Speaker 1: to all these places and stuff like that, like Internet
Speaker 1: one really super lit like that everybody wasn't posting everything,
Speaker 1: so we was going right to the hoods soon as
Speaker 1: you touch down in any place, you feel me like.
Speaker 1: But now people going down to the hood they record
Speaker 1: podcast out broadcasting where you are anything coming that your tours.
Speaker 1: It ain't even gotta people be the people who from
Speaker 1: around now that fuck with you. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that you don't know who watching your page.
Speaker 2: You feel me like, and they know you before you
Speaker 2: ever know who they are.
Speaker 1: Exactly you feel me But like Chicago is smooth or Brian,
Speaker 1: I go back home because I love be on my
Speaker 1: fa beautiful city. Hell Ya, I tell people all the
Speaker 1: time you go out there, you really enjoy yourself and
Speaker 1: ship little spots. You gonna go kick it chill this
Speaker 1: place you could be with your kids and ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's super smooth. You got beaches
Speaker 1: out there too. Yeah, we got lakes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that type of shit lakes. Now they got a lake.
Speaker 2: It's a lake, bro, No, it's a leach.
Speaker 1: Spots beach that beaches, but it's it's basically Lake Michigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, what you think name was by an ocean man?
Speaker 1: What you think I see a beach lake? Only got ship.
Speaker 1: I can't lie to you.
Speaker 3: My brother brought me to he said, one of the
Speaker 3: number one piece of spots in the world, Chicago. It
Speaker 3: was called come on you, you got to eat the
Speaker 3: pizza with a fork in the night.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's not they took the Donalds.
Speaker 1: He tried to come on with the deep disch, but
Speaker 1: people from Chicago don't eat deep dish. But really, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. New York we got the best life. That's
Speaker 1: like tour stopped. Y'all. Man, you want to clap. You
Speaker 1: know New York got the best pizza. New York got
Speaker 1: the best piz De Troy pizza is good, though I
Speaker 1: ain't never heard. I never heard nobody nobody you what
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? Jk just joking, yeah, just kidding. No,
Speaker 1: it's no Jesus Detroit but big up to the trick trick.
Speaker 1: You know that's my people out there. Oh ship boom,
Speaker 1: you better got blue Booe cross Yeah yeah are they
Speaker 1: have Yeah they have of course yeah yeah your hell
Speaker 1: you got a bulletproof. Put me on level six for
Speaker 1: the bomb proof or thing damn bomb proof the Cadillac
Speaker 1: Cadillac truck like like two eighty four.
Speaker 2: That's not bad actually, but you're not trying to go
Speaker 2: to war.
Speaker 1: Now, trying to make sure, like I ain't gonna lie, bro,
Speaker 1: growing up in the streets, like I always hit a mass.
Speaker 1: I never put nobody out love in Harm's weight, no
Speaker 1: matter like even with like I'm just paranoid.
Speaker 2: I don't even be having ship going on.
Speaker 1: I get I get real love in my city, bro,
Speaker 1: like I'll be able to pop out and shit. But
Speaker 1: always like even like what I'm saying is when I
Speaker 1: was young as a kid, like I never when I
Speaker 1: used to drive cars, I always had cars sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: I never used to have my mom in the car.
Speaker 1: I never used to have my sister in a car
Speaker 1: because I just was paranoid if anything happened. I'm putting
Speaker 1: people that I love and Harm's way always saying, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be able to make sure my people safe
Speaker 1: when I really get some real money. You feel me.
Speaker 1: So I'm round with my kids. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure no matter what, my kids, everybody that I love
Speaker 1: family is safe.
Speaker 2: When we ran in Chicago, you never know what.
Speaker 3: Cars just for Chicago, Yeah for real, Okay in Chicago
Speaker 3: like that, ain' you're gonna make nobody want to go
Speaker 3: to Chicago right now?
Speaker 1: No, it ain't even that. It's just like you don't
Speaker 1: never know what happened. You know, it's dangerous everywhere. You
Speaker 1: treating me what you just said, and Kanye, this isgerous.
Speaker 2: Just like it's different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you never and what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'm from there. You never know who
Speaker 1: love you, who hate you? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like I got to make sure I'm straight
Speaker 1: at all times.
Speaker 3: I don't take no chances that a car is that
Speaker 3: everywhere kind of it's just Chicago morning.
Speaker 2: I mean everywhere, a lot of rappers. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Go back home and feel like that.
Speaker 1: You feel me especially, you know that paranoia not you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta always be on point anyway. Because you're an artist.
Speaker 1: Everybody know you gotta like you showing love. You don't
Speaker 1: know if they live real or not. You just gotta
Speaker 1: always be on your square all times, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what's crazy about That's what I
Speaker 1: feel like being in Chicago because I don't know who
Speaker 1: was who? You know what's crazy about Chicago. I remember
Speaker 1: at one.
Speaker 3: Point I used to go to queens Bridge, right, and
Speaker 3: it's to be A and R's just hanging out in
Speaker 3: queens Bridge. They didn't know they was in the most
Speaker 3: drug infested places in the world. They're just sitting there
Speaker 3: trying to find another nos and they're sitting there trying
Speaker 3: to find another mob deep. It's so many people that
Speaker 3: go to the coast side rack trying to find another
Speaker 3: version of y'all, and they putting themself at harm's.
Speaker 2: Way, and sometimes they got to do that though they
Speaker 2: take that risk. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: That's why you got a shout out to Mickey Houston. Bro.
Speaker 1: That was that when I first started rapping. That was
Speaker 1: my that was my manager at the time. Heat when
Speaker 1: I first met him, Bro, I was what sixteen seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, probably no I was fifteen, like fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: and I always been bad with phones. You see how
Speaker 1: I just pulled up my phone all cracked up, and shit,
Speaker 1: I've been like that and I always lose phones like so,
Speaker 1: and I know numbers about herd I promise you I
Speaker 1: know everybody knowing that be with me about heart and shit.
Speaker 1: So I used to like not have a phone and
Speaker 1: not really get no fuck, just be standing on the
Speaker 1: block posted up all day because shit, that's what everybody
Speaker 1: outside anyway, if I could get in.
Speaker 2: Touch with whoever. But he really used to pull up
Speaker 2: looking for me on my block.
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen years old, with his family, got his kids,
Speaker 1: his wife and the cars, kids like two three years old.
Speaker 1: He pulling up like what heard? You feel what I'm
Speaker 1: saying because he was trying to be my manager, and shit,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that made me gravitate to him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this nigga really pulling up right here
Speaker 1: with his fans dangers and the dangerous reds on Save
Speaker 1: Life and pulling up four five times like straight, like
Speaker 1: come on, show y'all fuck with you, Like damn, He's
Speaker 1: silent for that with his family though, like he's coming
Speaker 1: from church doing this too.
Speaker 2: But it's a little crazy. But how was it working
Speaker 2: with Juice world?
Speaker 1: Man? Juice was he was like a if you could
Speaker 1: describe it, it's like one of them, like one of
Speaker 1: the billion phenomenons. Like when you see him, I ain't
Speaker 1: even I'm not even being funny like when you when
Speaker 1: we first ever met Juice, and we just used to
Speaker 1: see his recording process alone, like how he used to
Speaker 1: get in the studio and make like six songs in
Speaker 1: a role. But damness, like he then made twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: songs because for each song he doing two three covers
Speaker 1: with different patterns, Like he's not saying the same shit
Speaker 1: now hesing the same hook. He doing this for like
Speaker 1: fast six songs straights, but making two three covers and
Speaker 1: the first shit he's saying so hard. Were not wanting
Speaker 1: him to erace it, were like, what the fuck he's
Speaker 1: racing it? Afterwards he yeah, he ain't even no more.
Speaker 2: He's not statching no version.
Speaker 1: He's just using the one he wanted to use. We like, man,
Speaker 1: like it was some crazy shit. We never seen nothing
Speaker 1: like that, man. And it's as just like I was.
Speaker 2: Really in love with the craft like the art of it.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. And it was weird working
Speaker 1: with him like at first, and like because he was
Speaker 1: like his ship. He he he's such a natural red talent.
Speaker 1: And that was back when I was there and still
Speaker 1: writing versus a long time, like I'll be off.
Speaker 2: The top now I look like okay, I heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that was like when I was really still
Speaker 1: ranking on the phone and he used to go so
Speaker 1: like quick freestyling so and that shit was so hard.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's taking me a long time and like
Speaker 1: you feel me? Like I felt like I couldn't really
Speaker 1: like vab like that. But he one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I stopped writing a little bit, Like I just
Speaker 1: used to like go off the vab with him here
Speaker 1: and make you do ten fifteen songs like you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because I'm looking at it like I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. It was crazy now I'm looking back
Speaker 1: at it and now that little bro dead, Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't really realizing like how much he really looked up
Speaker 1: to me. You feel what I'm saying, like like on
Speaker 1: a like him being a fan of my music. I'm
Speaker 1: so a fan of his shit because I've never seen
Speaker 1: nothing like him before, and he's so big, but he's
Speaker 1: just such a genuine person. He not even really realizing
Speaker 1: how big he is for real, for he happy to
Speaker 1: just be doing what he's doing. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he trying to do songs with me because he
Speaker 1: thinking he's stacking up fifteen g herbro versus. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling him, like, Surety, you the biggest shit in the world,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not finna be rapping on all these songs
Speaker 1: because all he's not even gonna come out, Bro, you
Speaker 1: pop star shit, we might drop one of these for
Speaker 1: my al one of these for yours for real. But
Speaker 1: I feel like he was challenging me to be better too,
Speaker 1: like you feel me. But I'm not even looking at
Speaker 1: it like that, you know, like it was just that
Speaker 1: nigga he when I look back at it, like that's
Speaker 1: like I never seen nobody like that, you feel me, Like,
Speaker 1: and I didn't heard that shit from like Pluto, from Thug,
Speaker 1: like from motherfucker that like them really the goats of
Speaker 1: this shit, you know what I'm saying, Like that really
Speaker 1: didn't locked in with Bro and seeing his recording process
Speaker 1: and feeling like that's some shit they ain't ever seen before.
Speaker 1: The lass was different.
Speaker 3: Do you think Juice world saw how big he was
Speaker 3: prior to him passing.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I feel like yeah, and then no
Speaker 1: one away could just knowing him, he's so humble, like
Speaker 1: he wasn't really like you feel he was just in
Speaker 1: love with the art of him music and he knowing
Speaker 1: he's big as fuck. Of course he knowing, but it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't even I think he was having so much
Speaker 1: fun with it. He wasn't even flying on how big
Speaker 1: he could go, Like I feel me, he wasn't even
Speaker 1: like on some as far as like just embracing it,
Speaker 1: like that's the thing. That's what I mean. I feel
Speaker 1: like he would have been ten times bigger if he
Speaker 1: just embraced how big he was. You feel him just
Speaker 1: being such a real pure soul. He ain't even like
Speaker 1: popping it. We used to tell them, like pop it, shorty,
Speaker 1: like get out here ship on niggas, Like that was
Speaker 1: never his thing, Like we've been telling him to do that,
Speaker 1: like boy shit on niggas. Well. You the one, you
Speaker 1: feel me like, act like you the one he never
Speaker 1: was on that you feel me, That's what I mean great,
Speaker 1: I'm bouncing around on a little bit. I'm bouncing around
Speaker 1: little right.
Speaker 3: This is something that I always wanted to ask people
Speaker 3: from Chicago.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They said that there was a plot to kind of
Speaker 3: like get rid of all the ogs, like you know,
Speaker 3: the Larry.
Speaker 1: Hoovers, right, Like, Yeah, I used to hear about that ship.
Speaker 3: And that's how the city became wild, like it is
Speaker 3: you think that's true?
Speaker 1: I believe shit if it's like, I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm like a conspiracy theorist like belief type of nigga,
Speaker 1: but like once I hear like how they break it
Speaker 1: down and ship, Yeah, I do believe that she was
Speaker 1: true because it's not no coincidence how shit happened and
Speaker 1: don't happen you feel, I'm saying, like, no matter regardless,
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm I'm twenty eight, so I can't really
Speaker 1: say what really really happened in the past. But as
Speaker 1: far as it when me knowing when I grew up
Speaker 1: and being no guidance out here for real, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like you feel, I'm saying. You even had people who
Speaker 1: was like and that's crazy you said that. Because I
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with one of my homies not
Speaker 1: too long ago, Like like even in certain neighborshoods, people
Speaker 1: was really even scared to even feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: I got authority, like I'm finna try to tell these
Speaker 1: little shorties what to do or not be out here
Speaker 1: or don't you know what I'm saying, because they scared
Speaker 1: to get on some kingp and shit they thinking the
Speaker 1: fuck going grabbing them just being having like the ability
Speaker 1: to tell people what to do or orchestra even if
Speaker 1: it is some positive outcome, like like these might be
Speaker 1: a neighborhood full of street niggas who got criminal charges
Speaker 1: or whatever, but one person come and be like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm finis straightening this shit up. They might really look
Speaker 1: at them like they own some chief type shit. You
Speaker 1: feel me, And they ain't doing nothing but trying to
Speaker 1: make the shit better. You feel me like I was
Speaker 1: having a conversation with my homie like and that's basically
Speaker 1: touching on the same point you just mad.
Speaker 6: Remember it's not a conspiracy Moore cointil pro It has
Speaker 6: been proven that that's the real thing that the FBI
Speaker 6: was doing back then, exactly depending on what you think
Speaker 6: the intention was.
Speaker 1: But they was really doing that and they was bringing
Speaker 1: people in.
Speaker 6: There was taking a part of these organizations from the top,
Speaker 6: and those organizations back then were really.
Speaker 3: Trying to do community based things. It wasn't really street
Speaker 3: shit back exactly. Like like my brother, he's Latino. But
Speaker 3: when COMPETI Green was up, you know, I wanted to
Speaker 3: go to COMPETI Green. This is a good time projects,
Speaker 3: funny dude. I was like, Yo, I gotta go. I
Speaker 3: got like, this is this restaurant called Sammy's. You know,
Speaker 3: it's fried chicken, spies, It's nothing crazy, but I had
Speaker 3: to go. My brother got you know, the coat sign
Speaker 3: and when I got there, I felt the most safest
Speaker 3: I ever felt in my life. It was I felt
Speaker 3: like everyone was just around just like yo, Norway's here,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean. And the police came
Speaker 3: searched me and Ship, the whole neighborhood was with me,
Speaker 3: like yo, get leaning over alone.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh Ship. That was in the nineties though, yeah,
Speaker 1: exact thing about Chicago though, like people you were feel
Speaker 1: that type of love, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: like that being a project. I ain't from no project building,
Speaker 1: but back then when projects was up, like everybody knew everybody.
Speaker 1: So basically in the project, it's probably eighty sixty percent
Speaker 1: of the ass all related families and shit, staying all
Speaker 1: through this shit. So you feel me, you would get
Speaker 1: that type of vibe. Somebody funck with you. They gonna
Speaker 1: definitely make sure you straight. I'm sure you probably felt
Speaker 1: some real love because I didn't been to New York
Speaker 1: and felt like that, Like young nigga like eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I'm going outside and I'm really feeling like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm posting up in New York for two hours, three hours,
Speaker 1: I'm all through all types of boroughs. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you don't really feel like that, and
Speaker 1: when you go to the hood and just embrace it,
Speaker 1: you feel me Like, Now.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about ptsd D. I know we were talking
Speaker 3: about juice word earlier, but that's about.
Speaker 1: You think you have PTSD. Yeah, what is that? Post
Speaker 1: traumatic post stress disorder? Yeah, I got diagnosed with it. Really,
Speaker 1: that's the ship that motherfuckers in Wall get right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can get what. Yeah, I had. That was
Speaker 1: was I was going to therapy though. That was when
Speaker 1: I first started going to therapy. Therapy, so age, but continue, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started going to therapy prob what year that was
Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen, twenty eighteen, and just talking to
Speaker 1: my therapist, she diagnosed me with post roumatic stress disorder
Speaker 1: because I was really I I was fighting the case
Speaker 1: at the time though, Like I had got arrested in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when my son was born. Y'all got arrested
Speaker 1: for some gun in Chicago. That's when I was living
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I feel me right before I moved to
Speaker 1: LA and I was really just you know me living
Speaker 1: out there. I ain't had no security, you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was even in that situation, like
Speaker 1: I said, accountability. I'm talking to my therapist like I
Speaker 1: ain't never really feel safe leaving out my house as
Speaker 1: I was fourteen, fifteen years old. You feel what I'm saying, Wow,
Speaker 1: And we haven't.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was with with with south Side when it happened
Speaker 1: that situation when I got arrested for the guns. You
Speaker 1: feel me, Like Bro was already a millionaire. He had
Speaker 1: security with him. You feel what I'm saying. They was
Speaker 1: able to get his security guard. Cello was on the case.
Speaker 1: He did that, guys, So that was his security guard
Speaker 1: who we paid staff. You feel what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: living in Chicago, I wasn't able to have no security guard,
Speaker 1: So me carrying the firearm, I was, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, basically just telling my therapist. I'm telling the
Speaker 1: same shit with the lawyer on fire the case. But
Speaker 1: I was able to get off on that well misdemeanor.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I really like I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: they're like, the therapy, the whole situation to me going
Speaker 1: like it was me taking a chance. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was, I ain't really open up to
Speaker 1: like nobody in my life. You did it on your own.
Speaker 1: You chose to go to therapy on your own. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: It was really like it wasn't no court stipulation.
Speaker 1: Nothing like that. I was talking to my lawyer and
Speaker 1: my lawyer like kind of insistent on me going, and
Speaker 1: I just took the chance and just really went on
Speaker 1: my own. You feel me. But like I said, like
Speaker 1: taking that leadership role early on, it just I don't
Speaker 1: really I feel like me complaining about my situation and
Speaker 1: what I got going on to the people around that
Speaker 1: that's really depending on me. It's like, that's not really
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That's that's the I feel
Speaker 1: like that's the that's that's what's what's really wrong, like
Speaker 1: with for lack of a burn term with it, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, like that the stipulation that that they
Speaker 1: that they put on black men growing up, just not
Speaker 1: being able to open up people around you and your family,
Speaker 1: open up to your mother, open up to your girl,
Speaker 1: to whoever. You can't do that, take it on, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like it ain't nobody
Speaker 1: referring therapy. So it's like I was really I I
Speaker 1: didn't even feel like it was going to be helpful
Speaker 1: at first, to be honest, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I first started going. But it was though, like life,
Speaker 1: just me just talking to to her about everything I
Speaker 1: grew up, like experiencing and everything that I was going
Speaker 1: through as a man at that time. And she just
Speaker 1: went on her own and and diagnosed me with postramatic
Speaker 1: stress disorder and actually sent it to the courts when
Speaker 1: I was fighting the case at the time. And that's
Speaker 1: how I was able to really get get off on
Speaker 1: the whole situation and get and get it down to
Speaker 1: a to a misdemeanor. Basically, what do they give you
Speaker 1: for that? Yeah, I had, I got diagnosed, I got
Speaker 1: the medical card they gave me. Yeah, yeah that's fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my car legally. Yeah, that's how I was
Speaker 1: able to get it through having postramatic stressed disorder, you know.
Speaker 1: But and it's like, man, really, that's why I had
Speaker 1: I named my album PTSD because it all happened around
Speaker 1: the same time, and that's why I put all those
Speaker 1: people that I had lost on my cover, like it
Speaker 1: was over fifty people on the fifty dead faces. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying because I'm talking about all this
Speaker 1: and therapy. You feel what I'm saying, like everything I experience,
Speaker 1: and it's like just the reality of a nigga experiencing
Speaker 1: seeing so much depth. But you were able to just
Speaker 1: act normal all day, navigate through your life like ain't
Speaker 1: nothing going on. You're still going to school and it's
Speaker 1: still going to work, and they're still providing for their family,
Speaker 1: taking care of their kids. But all it's still on
Speaker 1: your mind every day. And if we don't really talk
Speaker 1: about it, it's like you got to find a way
Speaker 1: to like compartmentalize with all of that. You feel me,
Speaker 1: you can't really hold it in and still think you're
Speaker 1: going to have a level playing field when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with life.
Speaker 2: You're going to always be on a roller coaster, you
Speaker 2: feel what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying because and on that yeah, is because most times
Speaker 1: were you really able to release and be yourself, you
Speaker 1: around the people that you're most comfortable with and them
Speaker 1: people you love. So you probably exploding on your woman,
Speaker 1: exploding on your kids, or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: on your mom, whoever the case may be. You feel
Speaker 1: me so like because you or you really like hold
Speaker 1: it in where you just go to make a decision
Speaker 1: that you can't in and shit come back from for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. That's how nigga wind up
Speaker 1: getting killed, Nigga wind up going to jail because you
Speaker 1: wearing this shit on your shoulder and then you snap
Speaker 1: what a ten second decision costs you the rest of
Speaker 1: your life, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
Speaker 1: that's why I started to like open up about therapy
Speaker 1: and name my album PTSD and just openly just wear
Speaker 1: that shit because I felt like that was the time
Speaker 1: of my life when I was most vulnerable.
Speaker 3: So I was just rapping about was any soldiers offended
Speaker 3: by that, because like I guess that's the most of
Speaker 3: the people who get diagnosed with that.
Speaker 1: No, because I really I did, really get clinically diagnosed.
Speaker 1: So I'm opening up about therapy. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wasn't saying I was like
Speaker 1: first hearing like paying hamage to the soldiers, But I
Speaker 1: was talking about like how people who live regular everyday
Speaker 1: last suffer from the same you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: diagnosis that somebody who go to war who signed up
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not saying that they work
Speaker 1: is unnoticed. Of course. The people put their life on
Speaker 1: the line every day, on the on the scale that
Speaker 1: we couldn't even imagine, you feel, and everybody's different. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's people who live every
Speaker 1: day life that didn't sign up for that. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is what it is. Post
Speaker 1: Man stresses saw its post Man stresses sort, no matter
Speaker 1: how you put it.
Speaker 6: And it depends on like people get it in car accident.
Speaker 6: People have a car exactly. They get like it was
Speaker 6: just you guys, yeah, domestic abutiy and they get that
Speaker 6: ship one robbed one time.
Speaker 2: People. They get posted like.
Speaker 1: Its really having like certain situations that you've been through
Speaker 1: that that triggered you on on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1: So it might be one thing that happened ten years ago,
Speaker 1: but it's like every time you get in the car,
Speaker 1: like you said, you're thinking about the situation. Every time
Speaker 1: you're on the bus stop, you're thinking about the situation
Speaker 1: because something happened on the bus stop. Right. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you, how did you become as wise?
Speaker 3: Like, because I know we touched on the fact that
Speaker 3: you're twenty eight, but your brain is not twenty eight
Speaker 3: like you you advanced and this shit Like I sit
Speaker 3: here like almost like I'm talking to my pair, like
Speaker 3: I know you younger than me, but your brain ain't
Speaker 3: telling me that.
Speaker 1: At all, Like how'd you get that? Wise? Man? I
Speaker 1: think I just really to be honest, i'mna be completely
Speaker 1: hungry with you. Man. I've just been outside for a
Speaker 1: long time, really, just since I was probably twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: years old. I've been hang on my big brother, he older,
Speaker 1: he five years older than me and just you.
Speaker 3: Know, just for five years older than he's thirty three. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: which means that he forty three, right, basically cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wise, It's like I've just been always and I
Speaker 1: don't really got nothing to do with like how I think,
Speaker 1: of course, but like I think, I just I looked
Speaker 1: up to him and already hear like some type of
Speaker 1: structure just being my own own man. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying it And while I grew up at it
Speaker 1: is like you gotta I ain't even being I ain't
Speaker 1: even lying, bro.
Speaker 2: Like you've done it, even if you're not in the streets.
Speaker 1: You gotta dan that be wise or you gotta like
Speaker 1: be a little It's like you gotta be a little
Speaker 1: witty in some type of way growing up while I
Speaker 1: came up, you feel what I'm saying, because everybody like
Speaker 1: out for something, everybody wants something about you. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I'm fifteen, sixteen years old
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to rap in at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, my name, I'm buzzing, I'm really in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: I'm having all types of street shit going on. You
Speaker 1: feel me. So it's like I gotta be twice as sharp,
Speaker 1: Like I really want hanging over people my age. I
Speaker 1: was hanging with people older than me. I'm thirteen, I'm
Speaker 1: hanging around eighteen, nineteen, twenty, sometimes twenty five years. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, and I gotta you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of credit to my pops. Two
Speaker 1: though my dad put a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: structure in me growing up. You feel me. But when
Speaker 1: when I was outside in the streets, I was on
Speaker 1: my own, though, you feel You're like I just had
Speaker 1: to take what he gave me and try to use
Speaker 1: that to navigate. You feel me, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just experienced a lot of life. I've been
Speaker 1: through a lot of shit early on and just like
Speaker 1: took it for what it is, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's why, like going back to the therapy that
Speaker 1: shit helped me, because like the shit was so normal
Speaker 1: where I come from. Like you can't really complain about
Speaker 1: I feel like I said that before, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like crazy or like bias or nothing.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a nigga like me, I feel
Speaker 1: like I can't even complain about my situation or whatever
Speaker 1: I go through because I didn't seen and experience much
Speaker 1: worse in the hood where I come from. Like you
Speaker 1: think your situation bad and you look at one of
Speaker 1: your homies like, damn, he got it worse, way worse. Well,
Speaker 1: this nigga got it ten times worse than me, Like
Speaker 1: it make you just over grateful. Like that's how I
Speaker 1: had that mentality when I was younger, because I'm seeing
Speaker 1: shit like you know, I didn't been in the trenches.
Speaker 1: What shit is so fucked up? Like nigga's growing up
Speaker 1: even worse than I'm seeing. So it's like, damn, I
Speaker 1: always had a reason to just be like, my sh
Speaker 1: it ain't so bad. You feel me, even if the
Speaker 1: worst of the worst situations you feel me.
Speaker 3: I want you to enjoy a little more, man enjoy
Speaker 3: it because I got I got a friend I don't
Speaker 3: want to say his name. We hang out right, and
Speaker 3: then we don't even want to take pictures because we
Speaker 3: got survivors re morese. We're just sitting around thinking like
Speaker 3: a once we take a picture, there's gonna be people
Speaker 3: hating bro, and that's like fucked up. Like our wives
Speaker 3: were looking at each other like yo, some suckers, like
Speaker 3: we out like three days a week and like y'ah no,
Speaker 3: we're we're over here.
Speaker 1: We don't want to take this picture.
Speaker 2: Like fuck that I gotta I got a real album calls.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. That that's what But I know
Speaker 1: I'm knowing. But it's like the ship that's like second
Speaker 1: nature though you feel me. I don't even think Nigga
Speaker 1: intentionally really beat. It's like like you said, like in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the interview, like you ask your phone
Speaker 1: so much sometimes you just don't even want to deal
Speaker 1: with the energy of certain ship that's just not even
Speaker 1: changed my dad or more you feel me all the time,
Speaker 1: never changed, man, I say that ship all the time,
Speaker 1: I be wanting to change my number. But then it's
Speaker 1: like I be thinking, like I know, what if somebody
Speaker 1: really Nigga really be feeling like that this real ship?
Speaker 1: How much?
Speaker 2: How much you think fatherhood has helped you mature as well?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I feel like fatherhood is if it
Speaker 1: won't for me really having my first kid, I would, like,
Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't have really like grew up and
Speaker 1: just like been on some ship where like I know,
Speaker 1: like what having a kid teach you is your first
Speaker 1: and foremost, like your main responsibility. Owe everything to them.
Speaker 1: So you got to make decisions knowing that are you
Speaker 1: owe everything to your kids because what happens to you
Speaker 1: happened today exactly. So before you had kids, you feel
Speaker 1: like you owe something to the mother fucker. But when
Speaker 1: you really have kids, you're like, oh no, I really
Speaker 1: don't own nobody shit. I own my kids everything. So
Speaker 1: you know, like that just like changed my whole way
Speaker 1: of thinking when I had children. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's like and then like no, funny shit, people always
Speaker 1: ask me, like what's my like like most places of
Speaker 1: comfort or happiest place, like no matter what I'm going through,
Speaker 1: when I'm around my kids, I could literally just zone
Speaker 1: out and not think about nothing, like no matter what,
Speaker 1: like five regardless, Like I don't feel like I had
Speaker 1: no other vice like studio all that should be therapeutic. Q,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I love what I do, but like
Speaker 1: my purest place is just like no matter what, I
Speaker 1: could be like the most depressed ever and be in
Speaker 1: the room my kids and then that shit just literally
Speaker 1: go away, you know what I'm saying. So like even
Speaker 1: if it's for the time being to being around my kids.
Speaker 1: And then when that's old, I snapped back right in reality,
Speaker 1: like I feel like that's the purest form of love.
Speaker 2: You knowe what I'm saying here people exactly so like
Speaker 2: and then it's.
Speaker 1: Like another thing is too that should be tweaking me out,
Speaker 1: like no matter what, Like I'm learning my older you know,
Speaker 1: you know son, he fat you can be six years old,
Speaker 1: like he know what's going on. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, your kids don't really know, Like they
Speaker 1: don't know who I am, what I know, They don't think.
Speaker 1: You don't talk about none of that. They don't know.
Speaker 1: I still think I'm corny with my kids. You always
Speaker 1: doing it for like like like like the last thing
Speaker 1: I watching my son, I watched Ted. I know that's inappropriate.
Speaker 3: No, No, youngest, we watched Ted the series. You've seen
Speaker 3: that ship on peac racist?
Speaker 1: Very racist? What is hilarious? Yeah, he has a series.
Speaker 1: Yeah you think for me on dead Boy, I ain't
Speaker 1: never see that ship into My son watched that. He
Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be watching that. No, No, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie I'm a bad father. Let me tur that
Speaker 1: out there. Don't say you're not a bad father, but in.
Speaker 3: This situation is like that cause I watched it, and
Speaker 3: now I start to realize he's asking me to watch
Speaker 3: it because he wants to watch it.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm looking at and then my.
Speaker 3: Wife's getting her hair done, I'm getting a haircut.
Speaker 1: And everybody in the house is just looking like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And I'm sitting there with my son, and
Speaker 1: I looked.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I'm kind of he just made that
Speaker 2: point over. But that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that
Speaker 2: to say, like your kids don't really know like who
Speaker 2: Like my son.
Speaker 1: He wanting to do the most random ship, and I
Speaker 1: gotta do it, like like wherever we at, he want
Speaker 1: to go to, whatever target, he want to go out to,
Speaker 1: the closest jumpy house, the nearest arcade, just random ship
Speaker 1: for the moment. How you failures, old, Okay, I'll be
Speaker 1: having to go do that ship, no matter if there's
Speaker 1: a million fans in there at all.
Speaker 2: I just go do it because that's what he wanted
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Like he not thinking about that ship and he not
Speaker 1: knowing like you feel me. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Your kids, How you how you're doing the most random shit,
Speaker 1: like fuck it, Like just say fuck it. I always
Speaker 1: do that with one kid, Like fucking you're going he
Speaker 1: got the fatherhood park has. Let's make too much for
Speaker 1: your father.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: He don't do nothing. He don't leave the house for
Speaker 1: ship at.
Speaker 2: All, all kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now you're having active and ship with my kids.
Speaker 2: Why they're too busy? Fuck the whole crib up.
Speaker 1: You gotta leave up. How many kids you have? Three? Three?
Speaker 2: What's the age one?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's fourteen. They going through puberty. I gotta have
Speaker 3: the birds and the bees. I don't know if they
Speaker 3: already had the birds and bees.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like I'm scared. I'm scared of like they damn there
Speaker 3: the homies and ship may be telling me let's go to.
Speaker 3: I know why they want to go to. I'm alright,
Speaker 3: got that man, All right, listen, So we got a game.
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, you handle it. Handle that we wanted.
Speaker 3: We want to let you know how much we appreciate you,
Speaker 3: how much you are a legend, how much love and
Speaker 3: hip hop you got is you know That's one thing
Speaker 3: I do when I interview a guest, I call.
Speaker 1: I just call.
Speaker 3: Everybody, and everybody, Yo, I kid you not you wanted
Speaker 3: like the third guests maybe you look you're up, you're
Speaker 3: up there like that. Nobody had nothing.
Speaker 1: Bad to say. I was like, that's fucking fire. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like everybody was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: it's a stand up dude. It's a good dude. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so our show is about giving people they flowers.
Speaker 3: So we want to give you your mother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a Grammy because it's coming from your people.
Speaker 1: This is your people, man, this is your house. I
Speaker 1: want you to know. I want you to know that.
Speaker 1: Before we get to QuickTime of Slim, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to say something and just
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me. What do you hear?
Speaker 3: Uh when I say this? When I say that, okay
Speaker 3: you ready? Yeah, humble beast, Well, I think hunger. Hunger, Yeah,
Speaker 3: hunger immediately more than one?
Speaker 1: More than one? Like what more than one? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Humble beasts? I think hunger. Man think uh uh?
Speaker 1: Dedication, I think I think gold oriented. I was on
Speaker 1: a mission gold Yeah, gold oriented for sure. I figured
Speaker 1: I had I think of having a point of prove
Speaker 1: I had something approval to myself, I felt like at
Speaker 1: that time and like to the industry, you know that
Speaker 1: being my like debut album, like on some ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: still swerving, still swerving, consistency like uh, I think, uh.
Speaker 2: Living life, having fun, I think uh.
Speaker 1: Ship. Uh, I think I God damnit swerving on Bro
Speaker 1: swerving and what I think? Uh? I think of a
Speaker 1: ship gratefulness on Bro, being grateful right out of town
Speaker 1: Bro okay, PTSD, PTSD. I think of Chicago. I think
Speaker 1: of hustling. I think of ship, savage life. I think
Speaker 1: of death mm hmmm, mm hmm. Ship. I think a
Speaker 1: grieving pain, anger and ship. I think of vulnerability and
Speaker 1: awareness twenty five, twenty five, I think survivals of morse.
Speaker 1: I think of grief. I can't say that gratefulness. That's
Speaker 1: my next question, Bro, I'm gonna I'm gonna go into
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into that with that you're doing my interview.
Speaker 1: That was but for twenty five, I think I think
Speaker 1: of gratefulness too though. Okay, I think of gratefulness. I
Speaker 1: think of life. I think of celebration, I think of grief.
Speaker 1: M hmmm. And I think I think of victory and
Speaker 1: now survivors of Mars, survivors of Morse. I think of sorrow,
Speaker 1: anger again. I think of confusion. I think uh, I
Speaker 1: think the resentfulness. I don't know if I said pain, well,
Speaker 1: I think of pain again. The reason, the reason why
Speaker 1: I had was, like I had said, survivors of Morese
Speaker 1: when I said the two five was because like turning
Speaker 1: twenty five was like like the whole time, like period
Speaker 1: of me just where I was as an artist, as
Speaker 1: a man everywhere, just like actually being grateful to turn
Speaker 1: twenty five at such a young age. It's really crazy
Speaker 1: as fuck, you know what I'm saying. And now that
Speaker 1: I'm twenty eight, f goin to be thirty. You feel me.
Speaker 1: It's still being young, but you just be grateful for
Speaker 1: the me is cause niggas really don't get that far
Speaker 1: where I come from, a lot of my homies didn't
Speaker 1: get to see eighteen twenty one, you know, So being
Speaker 1: turned at twenty five like and that was one of
Speaker 1: my last birthdays that I turned with my little brother,
Speaker 1: you feel me. My little brother, uh he died seven
Speaker 1: days before it's twenty fifth birthday. Got like you two
Speaker 1: plus five and seven, Like the whole reason why I
Speaker 1: was like putting that whole album two five together. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, It was just like it was
Speaker 1: a different like just time or you know, like they'll
Speaker 1: let you know, like well, well we all mentally, not
Speaker 1: just me, like everybody around, everybody I ever know knew
Speaker 1: growing up, Like it was like, of course everybody excited
Speaker 1: to see their twenty fifth birthday, but while I come from,
Speaker 1: we feel like it's a mouthstone even be alive at
Speaker 1: twenty five, not to actually enjoy twenty fifth birthday, and
Speaker 1: on you feel me, Nigga, just happy to be here.
Speaker 1: You lost so much, you feel me, So it's like
Speaker 1: looking back at that, I feel like shit, I feel
Speaker 1: like I wish, you know, Nigga would have like celebrated
Speaker 1: like more. You feel me with that being like my
Speaker 1: last birthday even with you know, because I had a ball,
Speaker 1: Like you feel what I'm saying, But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: like not even not even like what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like on some just like fastest, like not even my
Speaker 1: whole twenty fifth birthday was around the fact that just
Speaker 1: being grateful to be alive, you feel me and my
Speaker 1: the brother they didn't even see his twenty fifth birthday,
Speaker 1: so that it was like it was like a weird
Speaker 1: feeling for me. You know, God bless bro. But Nigga
Speaker 1: just that's why i'd be having that. Master, Nigga, just
Speaker 1: be grateful for shitting right, be grateful, quick Time and slob.
Speaker 1: You want to explain to him the rules.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna give you two choices. Pick one and
Speaker 6: we're not drinking quick time or slim. Yeah, two choices.
Speaker 6: You get two choices. There's a list of things. These
Speaker 6: guys over here came up with this list, So don't
Speaker 6: blame us, Columbian and the Dominican. Right, so you get
Speaker 6: two choices. You picked nobody together. If you say both,
Speaker 6: like you say both of them, what do quick time
Speaker 6: or what? That's just the name of the game.
Speaker 1: Drinking game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're picking something. But if you if you say both,
Speaker 6: are neither we drinking. All of us are drinking. Okay,
Speaker 6: but if you pick nobody drinking, If you pick something,
Speaker 6: nobody drink. But if you don't pick basically we drinking.
Speaker 6: Remember this, Are you ready and go light with the
Speaker 6: shots because it's a long game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you go light with the shots. Okay, you ready?
Speaker 3: This is your shot Towns is going to suck you
Speaker 3: up right now you're ready, let us do it, Chief
Speaker 3: Keith or Little Dirk.
Speaker 1: So okay, Chief right, Tupac or DMX Tupac ok Drake
Speaker 1: or Lula, Wayne Wayne Nas or jadakiss kiss.
Speaker 2: You guys have to say about that.
Speaker 6: Right if you want to elaborate, tell the story anything
Speaker 6: but Jada Kiss Okay.
Speaker 1: Kanye West or no I D obviously produce.
Speaker 2: It and obviously both Chicago, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: No I D. As you know, Big Bro, he was
Speaker 1: one of the first that ever really embraced me to though,
Speaker 1: really like O I D. I got, I got, like
Speaker 1: I got placements, like songs with no ID when I'm
Speaker 1: like sixteen years old, when I first started rapping, Like
Speaker 1: when you work with Common, Who's yeah exactly? That was
Speaker 1: that was the whole play. No I D put that
Speaker 1: whole play together with Common. You feund and Big Bro
Speaker 1: always just been like a mentor for me, Like I know,
Speaker 1: if there's anything I really need to like get off,
Speaker 1: if I ever need to come here for any advice,
Speaker 1: it's just a phone call fee. That's fine. That's a
Speaker 1: big dog too, a shout to be. He always showed
Speaker 1: me love from the beginning. Since they want juice World
Speaker 1: or P M. B Rock.
Speaker 2: That's the piece and I could do both. It's called
Speaker 2: the ticket both.
Speaker 1: Let's take both of my brother. I've been feeding him,
Speaker 1: take a shot. Let's do it. But I wanted you
Speaker 1: to go with the right choices.
Speaker 2: The next even we're back.
Speaker 1: Hey, man, I don't know if I can say it.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to take my brother P and
Speaker 2: B anyway, I got to take that.
Speaker 3: Yes, future twenty one savage. Uh, we take a shot,
Speaker 3: you know, take a.
Speaker 1: Shot, brother Brodian Right, Yeah, don't choose, don't don't choose side.
Speaker 2: That's a two headed go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ice gub that motherfucker. I've been holding this one.
Speaker 6: Want to shut chilling Common or lupid fiasco Common, it's
Speaker 6: South side of Metro booming Well, taking a shot on Flo.
Speaker 6: That's another two head to go. Sorry about that drinking.
Speaker 1: You know what he's drinking?
Speaker 3: What was It's called mam Wana but he's not from
Speaker 3: dominic in Republic?
Speaker 1: What is it? It's made in the tubbing kind he.
Speaker 2: Make that ship up.
Speaker 1: It's telling you, man, don't don't start.
Speaker 7: He's gonna ask you for a shot. Called wife the
Speaker 7: movie should try. By the way, the best baptob in candle.
Speaker 1: I know it's some times breaking it anyway, just let
Speaker 1: me take my.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so I'm so happy you came here. Man, man,
Speaker 1: I want to get you and your fans is crazy.
Speaker 3: By the way, I tweeted out that got question questions
Speaker 3: with you heard they went crazy your fans. You got
Speaker 3: some crazy ass fans, yeah, man, yeah, okay podcast or radio.
Speaker 1: Podcast, okay, dropped podcast. Okay, Yeah, this is good. It's
Speaker 1: a good one.
Speaker 3: Cat Williams or Kevin Hard, don't take a shot. I
Speaker 3: was gonna take a shot. I don't want no smoke.
Speaker 3: Give us both trouble, take a shot. We outside, we
Speaker 3: love them both shut out. But it's entertaining. I never
Speaker 3: seen control. And that's the funniest on the craziest ship.
Speaker 3: It's just dope.
Speaker 1: You ain't. I want to with everybody getting the loan
Speaker 1: and spreading love under entertainment.
Speaker 2: It's entertainment. That's the name of the game, right.
Speaker 1: But I'm like that other people is beefing other than
Speaker 1: rappings exactly. That's hard. That's hard. This is what to
Speaker 1: be damn it. Okay, Luda or t I take a shot.
Speaker 1: Do I old shot?
Speaker 6: Yeah, take a shot, take a shot, tip mm hmm, okay,
Speaker 6: Rick Rosser, jez.
Speaker 1: Uh take a shot man, Okay, take a shot for
Speaker 1: Big Bro.
Speaker 3: Now it's going down. Okay, here putting the ice in
Speaker 3: every shot, Bro Man, that's ships hottest like I don't
Speaker 3: like it. That ship is like Russian cheating.
Speaker 1: Man's DJ drama or d J Collin drama. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Scarface or ice Cube? What we say drama cattle. We
Speaker 1: gotta take a shot, take a show. You take a shot, said,
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little tipsy. I had consume.
Speaker 1: The question is okay, I didn't even shopping Big Bro.
Speaker 1: Now we remember for another two headed girl? All right?
Speaker 2: Scarface of ice Cube?
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, scar Face, Boys in the Hood or medicine Society,
Speaker 6: Minis Society.
Speaker 2: L A or Miami U l A.
Speaker 3: Travis Scott or Asap Rocky Travis, Biggie A big Al
Speaker 3: Biggie our Castle, u g K.
Speaker 2: Hugk Hey, who's d the come on?
Speaker 1: Bro? Little g or little Wice take a shot. I
Speaker 1: respect that big and both of cheer boy take a
Speaker 1: shot and fold up.
Speaker 2: So take a nice.
Speaker 1: Show.
Speaker 3: What me do it's it's still hot. It's like fucking
Speaker 3: taking a coffee shot. Little baby or Rocky Fresh Baby,
Speaker 3: little yachty, a little.
Speaker 1: Oozy, take a shot that big Yeah, he's some good ass.
Speaker 1: Questions by the way, thank you Kodak or Denzel Curry Kodak.
Speaker 1: Last one, it's the most important one, most important one
Speaker 1: loyalty or respect?
Speaker 2: Respect? Explain because I'm built off loyalty.
Speaker 1: I'm a loyal person anyway you feel what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that you can't really if people don't really have a loyalty,
Speaker 1: you can't probably instill that anything. But I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: you respect me. If you don't respect me, I demand
Speaker 1: respect regardless of what. You don't have to be lord
Speaker 1: to me. You don't have to be whatever, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be respectful me because I'm gonna leader
Speaker 1: respect whatever. I don't have to enforce loyalty, force respect,
Speaker 1: applying anybody, so respect, so you would respect and respect.
Speaker 1: I ain't a lie. You're not supposed to take a
Speaker 1: shot for that, but I think we should. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a hard answer, Like that was I was
Speaker 1: fucked up. I was like, we can take a shot
Speaker 1: for that. You want to take a shot, Bro, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you want to take a shot for the answer,
Speaker 1: like it's deserves deserves shot. I do it for myself.
Speaker 1: You say wanted to take a shot. I wanted to
Speaker 1: take a shot too. But that answer was.
Speaker 6: Awesome, bro. Going back to to no idea when you
Speaker 6: were Common? Right, did you record with Common in the studio?
Speaker 1: No? No, have y'all linked though?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He yeah, ain't gonna low with comments so tough, man,
Speaker 1: I was. You know, it's crazy. I actually was supposed
Speaker 1: to start acting like years ago. Man, But I really
Speaker 1: was just so focused on rap, Like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I'm a type of person, like I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm stubborn, but in a way, when I'm super focused
Speaker 1: on something like that malestone self for myself, I just
Speaker 1: gotta do one thing like I was supposed to really
Speaker 1: been in when they did. Which one was he in?
Speaker 1: Was comments and Barbershop three? I believe I was supposed
Speaker 1: to I was supposed to have been in that, And
Speaker 1: I just said in Chicago, right, Yeah, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: and I went and I went and uh went over
Speaker 1: my script with him. Yeah, me pull up on him
Speaker 1: at his hotel.
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I feel like he smells like baby powder.
Speaker 2: No, no, big Bro.
Speaker 1: That was my first time. He was a nice ass,
Speaker 1: nice ass sweet I forgot what hotel it was. It
Speaker 1: was a minute ago. He had me pull up to
Speaker 1: him and I went over my script with him for
Speaker 1: like two three hours. You feel me. Big Bro always
Speaker 1: just embraced me, like even on rap ship and just
Speaker 1: anything like he hit me like, oh you got the
Speaker 1: they trying to get a roll. I pulled up on
Speaker 1: the one over the script. You feel me. He kind
Speaker 1: of wanted me to do my video on syndity and
Speaker 1: right there, but I was on some nervous ship. I
Speaker 1: ain't doing it right then.
Speaker 6: I had because it was an audition that you were doing. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 6: I had over the script.
Speaker 1: I ain't sending shit. I ain't s I was supposed
Speaker 1: to have been in a barbershop. Three damn. It would
Speaker 1: have been year role if you would have been in there.
Speaker 1: I think I was supposed to been. You know Tarik
Speaker 1: from Power he was in there. Tarik was in there.
Speaker 1: He played uh. I think he was ice Cube son
Speaker 1: and Ship. I was supposed to be his homeie niggas
Speaker 1: in the video somewhere that was game Man and one
Speaker 1: of them type of little Chicago niggas, an of the
Speaker 1: niggas that was took the cashiers to ATM No, this
Speaker 1: was three. Oh, this is three. That's that's one. I'm talking.
Speaker 2: But that's dope that come and took the time to
Speaker 2: do that with you that right. Yeah. And the reason
Speaker 2: I asked the whole point.
Speaker 6: Because it's ill like it's like Chicago from this era
Speaker 6: and this era, like like how's that coming together? Like
Speaker 6: y'all y'all discussing the state of affairs in Chicago.
Speaker 1: But really, you know he's been just always like reached
Speaker 1: out and like show little took a liking to me
Speaker 1: from the beginning my first project, I dropped walking the
Speaker 1: Phase O Land. Matter of fact, I should have mentioned
Speaker 1: that first. Really he gave me the feature on I
Speaker 1: on't still fucked up Me and him chance to rap
Speaker 1: up Wow. We it was a video we shot probably
Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen or something. You feel me
Speaker 1: pulled up on Big Bro in this neighborhood, you know
Speaker 1: if eighty seven over there, we pulled up in his
Speaker 1: neighborhood at the barbershop, like you know, he used to
Speaker 1: really be coming back to Chicago showing love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's one of the first artists that
Speaker 2: a lot of people heard.
Speaker 1: Of face like really big Boy used to really you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying him man twister all him Lord,
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean it could be around the
Speaker 1: same crucial conflict. No, no, this after Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: come and comment.
Speaker 6: When he was common sense okay, and he had the
Speaker 6: song take It Easy, was one of the first common
Speaker 6: sense no more no no, he just comming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his first album was common Sense No id produced
Speaker 2: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he definitely just wanted like one of the
Speaker 1: first artist really like that.
Speaker 2: I heard a lout of Chicago. I mean Twist as
Speaker 2: well for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's your relationship with kan Ye with Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it's okazy with his new sniggers, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't really, I ain't even.
Speaker 1: Look at his niggas wrong, really be.
Speaker 2: Pretty big on the fast.
Speaker 1: I love him. That's my brother. I love it.
Speaker 2: The one that fold called them because he don't want shoes, right,
Speaker 2: you gotta make I'm really asking.
Speaker 1: Inside and said I was trying to see what what
Speaker 1: sucks he was talking about.
Speaker 3: You ain't see the nigga socks. I know what's wanting
Speaker 3: to right, yeah, like air parts. He called him home bro,
Speaker 3: right right, I'm ready for him, like just too long,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to make sure they could have went
Speaker 3: on the house shoes, bab.
Speaker 1: Too much, bouchal lea movies at that bro, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: because let's as soon as you get back to some
Speaker 1: nigga ship, I'm back. I'm gonna fuck with him, like
Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm backing Wise.
Speaker 2: I want to wise Yeah.
Speaker 1: With you.
Speaker 2: Man, you got it, you got it, like I gotta
Speaker 2: acting like it's me.
Speaker 1: I got a different No, I got a different like
Speaker 1: just like respect for you I love yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: just off the strips for like his genius for you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, super genius. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Whoever you are, here's gold dude, shout own. You got
Speaker 1: the whole ship going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah man, Holy moly, let's talk about damn. I got
Speaker 3: mad notes for you.
Speaker 1: You got some ship from me, Mercy, Let's talk about
Speaker 1: uh cry no more with a little t J. She said,
Speaker 1: that's my boy.
Speaker 3: I never got to meet him yet, but I like
Speaker 3: I like his style, like it's oral, so so tell
Speaker 3: us how y'all collaborated t J.
Speaker 1: I've been fucking with a little bro for a little
Speaker 1: minute too, though, you know little bro style that we
Speaker 1: locked in on a bunch of different ways. But really
Speaker 1: it was or me and me and Polo did it first.
Speaker 1: Though Polo did the hook. You know, we was in Chicago.
Speaker 1: That was one of the times, and I really was
Speaker 1: stuck in Chicago at the time. I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: had it was a period of time where I couldn't travel,
Speaker 1: Like I said when I was when I got diagno
Speaker 1: supposed tomatic stress and ship I cut my angle breakless, nah,
Speaker 1: I went on.
Speaker 2: This was before COVID everything. That's why COVID was kind
Speaker 2: of easy for me.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie because I had like a year
Speaker 1: where I couldn't travel really do too many shows unless
Speaker 1: acc he was just to Chicago. My judge ain't let
Speaker 1: me do no traveling, ankle nothing. It was like for
Speaker 1: a whole year. I had to do the summer like
Speaker 1: it was at least like ten months. It was on
Speaker 1: quarantine already. Yeah right, it was right before quarantine hits.
Speaker 1: So it's like I Danny did two quarantine, so but
Speaker 1: I was in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I was like locked in the studio and ship.
Speaker 1: So me and Polo had did that song man broke
Speaker 1: We we had when me and broke in and we
Speaker 1: be doing like a lot of ship back to back though,
Speaker 1: like we probably got fat tend like TJ. No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Polo Polo. So we had did a hook
Speaker 1: and then I had sent the ship to TJ after that,
Speaker 1: and then me and TJ did it in La. You
Speaker 1: feel me like that's sit like a it's like a
Speaker 1: dynamic though, like Me Polo TJ. That' shit like the
Speaker 1: same we get in the studio. If we get in
Speaker 1: one day, we probably could do fastic songs literally right
Speaker 1: off the like that type of chemistry. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we all already familiar with working with
Speaker 1: each other. We just did shit in the studio together,
Speaker 1: did shit separately. I get in with them, we do
Speaker 1: three four songs. I get in bro we do three
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's just how we work.
Speaker 1: So this shit just came naturally. I did that And
Speaker 1: that was, like I said, at the time, where I
Speaker 1: was just going through a whole bunch of shit mentally,
Speaker 1: I couldn't travel. I wasn't doing on shows. I was
Speaker 1: fighting the case all type of shit. I just was,
Speaker 1: you know, feeling like I was just I feel like
Speaker 1: it was a growth period though, like one thing I
Speaker 1: learned about.
Speaker 2: Like that's why I speak about it openly.
Speaker 1: Like when you go through ship, like just adversity overall,
Speaker 1: like all that you will feel frustrated, like Nigga be
Speaker 1: having a lot of stress, a lot of built up
Speaker 1: ship in them, and you will feel like you going
Speaker 1: through the motions or whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 1: that shit really just building character, like I learned, like
Speaker 1: when I really go through ship, sometimes I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to sound like weird, a little crazy or the fucked
Speaker 1: up way, like the kind of give me comfort, Like
Speaker 1: damn ship a little rough, So I got it. Once
Speaker 1: you figure it out, you figure it out, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's always leads to elevation. So you you you
Speaker 1: should lead towards that ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like leaning towards you. What I'm saying that to say,
Speaker 1: like that was like a hard ass time period where
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to do ship but record music.
Speaker 1: But me recording music. That was the PTSD album that
Speaker 1: was and that was like Ship.
Speaker 2: Literally that's my best album still to this day.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like all this Ship came
Speaker 1: about from me really not being able to travel do shows,
Speaker 1: being around my piers, but niggas really just fucking me
Speaker 1: off the strength they pulling up on me. You feel
Speaker 1: I'm saying when I was able to go to La,
Speaker 1: TJ pulled up on me, little bro Polo was using
Speaker 1: the rack he pulled up on me. You feel I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm getting this shit done and then that shit coming
Speaker 1: out like still, that's probably one of my biggest songs
Speaker 1: on that album too, though you feel me so let's
Speaker 1: shit just be happening to naturally gang I ain't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: God damn hold on.
Speaker 6: When you go back and you say you start like
Speaker 6: around sixteen, who were the inspirations that that you was
Speaker 6: looking around around you, not not on the bigger scale,
Speaker 6: like around you locally, who was doing things that you
Speaker 6: was like, I want I want to do like them?
Speaker 1: Uh. I was looking up to niggas from my hood though,
Speaker 1: Like that was rapping like nickname react here old nigga.
Speaker 2: Uh My Homie Hollow was rapping.
Speaker 1: Baby was rapping before me too, though, Baby was like
Speaker 1: actually going paying for studio time and shit, like he
Speaker 1: was like fifteen years old. Baby was like head yet
Speaker 1: older than me. So he was like sixteen actually going
Speaker 1: to the studio where folks was smart. He knew how
Speaker 1: to structure hooks and I ain't know how to do
Speaker 1: ship a rap like I ain't know how to put
Speaker 1: no hook verse and know what. The sixteen boy was
Speaker 1: none of that type of shit. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But he could tell you stories he didn't know either.
Speaker 1: Jesus, don't be out there you say it on time.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that that inspiration Like niggas.
Speaker 1: I feel like niggas didn't know how to rap never
Speaker 1: really knew how to put songs together though, like never
Speaker 1: really Like that's the same thing. That's how I used
Speaker 1: to count bars. The reason why that that song?
Speaker 8: What what?
Speaker 1: What? What what? What? That's how they count boss? What
Speaker 1: what what? What?
Speaker 2: He was counting his bars and they made that a hook,
Speaker 2: bro And.
Speaker 1: Then was just a genius. Yeah, nigga know how to
Speaker 1: be hate. He just made I feel like Bibby was
Speaker 1: a nigga that probably would have knew how to do
Speaker 1: that same ship if you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Bibby knew how to you don't want to drink? So
Speaker 1: y'ah could y'all good? Jeez, Louise, Papa Cheez, we want
Speaker 1: you to have fun too, You know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like like when we was getting the studio early,
Speaker 1: like Bibby Head he was, he was like the brains
Speaker 1: when they came to like putting the songs together, like
Speaker 1: kill Ship right now. Still that's our biggest song in
Speaker 1: this day. That was his idea. He picked the beat.
Speaker 1: He the one told me go first on the ship.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying in the end, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, I just used to just wrap for
Speaker 1: thirty bards thirty two bards straights. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like Bro always had like destructure, so like when I
Speaker 1: first like I used to listen to what Bro was
Speaker 1: on Bump Jay another nigga that I really was like
Speaker 1: super Bibby and Slap Polaroy. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like that like locally that was going crazy
Speaker 1: that I was like, right, that really made a nigga
Speaker 1: want to rap.
Speaker 6: You feel right, And when you say you stopped writing
Speaker 6: your rhymes and you said you had them on your
Speaker 6: phone and he was going off the top, were you
Speaker 6: doing the Biggie jay Z ship where you was writing
Speaker 6: you had or you're just freestyling. No, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: kind of writing in my head for sure. I definitely
Speaker 6: wouldn't really just freestyling off the top of going like that, right.
Speaker 1: I was like thinking ship, like faux bos and then
Speaker 1: just recorded like that. You feel me? Like even when
Speaker 1: I was writing, like, I felt like I was wasting
Speaker 1: time writing because I'm thinking of the ship. And then
Speaker 1: when I'm writing, shit, I'm thinking too long, trying to
Speaker 1: write down one bar instead of just like all right,
Speaker 1: that's alady in my head, say it and then just
Speaker 1: keep going from there. You feel me, I felt like
Speaker 1: I'm wasting that's like literally when you think of the elite,
Speaker 1: that's the least status ship. Yeah, I ain't elitet status.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't remember ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, south Side.
Speaker 1: I used to say that Tuto when I first started
Speaker 1: recording south Side, like he used to see my process.
Speaker 1: That's when I first like that was around the time
Speaker 1: when uh, when Juice was like going crazy and ship
Speaker 1: when I'm learning how to really freestyle for real. So
Speaker 1: I used to just sit in the studio and listen
Speaker 1: to the beat and probably listen to that bitch for
Speaker 1: like five ten minutes. But as I'm listening and niggas thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm just listening to the beat, but in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm coming up with at least like eight bars that
Speaker 1: I remember. For shure, once you come up with the
Speaker 1: first like eight to twelve bars, you good, Like I
Speaker 1: got like eight off the top of my head. I
Speaker 1: could do now the next twelve. All that shit like
Speaker 1: really a freestyle. I could just come in and just
Speaker 1: punch it like I feel like I always had, like
Speaker 1: when I first started rapping.
Speaker 2: This shit don't really happen no more.
Speaker 1: It's a little easier for me. But I used to
Speaker 1: have the most trouble with like my first four in
Speaker 1: my last four because I'm trying to really make the
Speaker 1: most sense and tell the story anyway. So it's like
Speaker 1: the last four going to the hook. So you gotta
Speaker 1: kind of coincide with the hook. The first four is
Speaker 1: what you leading them with. You gotta get them intrigued
Speaker 1: with the first four bars at least you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, alright, So that was my whole models was
Speaker 1: my first four I got. If I'm coming there with
Speaker 1: eight bars, I could just cruise my way through and
Speaker 1: make sure my last score or two going to the hook.
Speaker 1: Like That's how I really learned how the freestyle type shit.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about I Don't want to die? Yeah, why
Speaker 1: would you name a song that that was I don't
Speaker 1: I Gotta I Gotta. That was south Side. Really that
Speaker 1: was south Side I did. I Gotta get credit to
Speaker 1: Big Broke. He sent me that song and he was
Speaker 1: he was getting ready to drop his album, which still
Speaker 1: ain't came out to this day. His nigga Rich He
Speaker 1: ain't he about to drop right now though, but he
Speaker 1: was gonna make that the intro to the to the
Speaker 1: next album he dropping. And I just he just told me, like, man,
Speaker 1: just go crazy. But I I he had put the
Speaker 1: Simple in there where it was seeing like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to die, and he's like, man, just
Speaker 1: go crazy on that ship and I was listening to it.
Speaker 1: And when I heard the Simple, I was in Chicago
Speaker 1: too when I recorded that ship. That was during quarantine
Speaker 1: by the File, when nigga just stuck in Chicago and
Speaker 1: when I heard it, just putting in a different type
Speaker 1: of like mass on but like the shit a nigga
Speaker 1: was rapping about. I think it probably like was like
Speaker 1: right on key because I was in Chicago. You know,
Speaker 1: when you in Chicago, you got a different like it's
Speaker 1: a different aura. You're feeling that energy. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like if I'm in La I'm gonna ride
Speaker 1: around and a regular car. You feel I'm in a
Speaker 1: regular form. And when I get Chicago, I want to
Speaker 1: be in a bulletproof truck just a mask. That is
Speaker 1: just what Chicago do or just the shit I've been
Speaker 1: through and the shit I experienced. It made me think.
Speaker 1: It makes me act the way I got to move
Speaker 1: and everything when I'm there, So I feel like I think,
Speaker 1: just me doing that shit and like it's I like
Speaker 1: that song really crazy though, like when you really think
Speaker 1: about it, like a nigga talking about like how I
Speaker 1: shot the video, like with all the kids in all
Speaker 1: the different scenarios or like kids situations, like it's bigger
Speaker 1: than just being in the streets. You feel me like
Speaker 1: when you in Chicago, it's anything could happen. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like kids getting trades cross that ship
Speaker 1: is so frequent in Chicago, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: more than any other city. So like it just put
Speaker 1: me in a different man frame to try to like
Speaker 1: talk about my situation and like what I experienced and
Speaker 1: still like recollect to like what happened on the day
Speaker 1: to day that don't got nothing to do with anything
Speaker 1: street related, you feel me, Because people try to like
Speaker 1: associate anything that's going on in Chicago with just like
Speaker 1: street shit. But that ship, like it's beyond that, because
Speaker 1: it affects everybody, you know what I'm saying. It don't
Speaker 1: just affect victims, that affect the mothers affected, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, affect everybody who don't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with nothing street oriented at all, you feel me,
Speaker 1: So the whole family is yeah, exactly, That's how like
Speaker 1: that shit came about, like mentally, like the ship I
Speaker 1: was rapping about.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, because like in New York City, right,
Speaker 3: every summer the crime rate goes up because they say, like,
Speaker 3: like that in Chicago, but your crime rate is still
Speaker 3: crazy in the winter, yeah, yeah, but the summer's wild.
Speaker 2: The summer even worse.
Speaker 1: Though someone's even worse, even worse they give the credit
Speaker 1: is crazy when they're.
Speaker 3: Below and Nigga's still shooting. They got gloves, special gloves,
Speaker 3: and what then happened?
Speaker 1: Get?
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is cold. It's not funny,
Speaker 2: but I guess it's not funny.
Speaker 1: But it's like like you just think about it statistically
Speaker 1: in New York City summertime. So he's saying in New York,
Speaker 1: like the crime rate, really it don't really be his
Speaker 1: hat during the winter. Yeah, motherfucker's too cold and the
Speaker 1: Timberlands is heavy, you know what I mean? Like, motherfuckers
Speaker 1: don't be wanting running and ship.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: You know, it's mandatory October first Timblans come out with
Speaker 3: the winter.
Speaker 1: That is the window came. You don't got.
Speaker 2: Miami, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, down, all right, that's why I get it,
Speaker 1: all right, That's why I really like I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: like you got it, like it'd be big. It's like like,
Speaker 1: now you know, no joking shit to like talk about
Speaker 1: this shit and people think, like as an artist, you
Speaker 1: are glorified. You feel what I'm saying. But it's just
Speaker 1: like the experience and the ship nigga go through you
Speaker 1: or think is man blowing? You feel what I'm saying? Like,
Speaker 1: how you saying that shit happened through sixty five? No matter,
Speaker 1: no matter what you feel me, And that's just built thought,
Speaker 1: like shit, whatever trauma, motherfucker you got going on? What
Speaker 1: they going through? You feel what I'm saying. So like,
Speaker 1: as an artist, we just speak about this ship and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and that way you feel me.
Speaker 1: But people will think like it's non existent, but that
Speaker 1: shit really happened.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to gangster rap. Start like they call
Speaker 2: it gangster.
Speaker 6: Rap, right whatever, NWA going from that lineage right, going
Speaker 6: back quick, and then you're going to drill and then
Speaker 6: people try to say drill. The difference that it did
Speaker 6: in hip hop negatively is that it started talking about
Speaker 6: real things happening in real time and started getting people.
Speaker 2: Hurt in real time. Because they're talking about real things
Speaker 2: in real time.
Speaker 1: I feel like they can't really put all that responsibility
Speaker 1: on artists. For one, you know you're right, you're right,
Speaker 1: And they can't put all that responsibility on just the
Speaker 1: category of drill because rap was always rap where there
Speaker 1: was hip hop gangst the rap. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: who's to say nwa not talking about things that was
Speaker 1: happening in real time and what's going on and had
Speaker 1: the effect that other people it's no different than what
Speaker 1: they were saying. And what with Drill. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like how we came up rapping, We didn't
Speaker 1: try to category as rap, like we finished just talk
Speaker 1: about a straight John recalled drill. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about negative shit, you know, it was
Speaker 1: just really just talking about our life and what we
Speaker 1: was experiencing. You fee what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: That's why I don't like when they categorize things and
Speaker 6: they try to separate it.
Speaker 2: I feel like they they glad we having this common
Speaker 2: station right now.
Speaker 6: Because I think it's important because people try to they
Speaker 6: want to separate it, and then they isolate things to
Speaker 6: see like this is waged is not waged, this good
Speaker 6: is bad, and then they everybody feels they go into
Speaker 6: different areas and they're like, all right, we're not that,
Speaker 6: but we're all hip hop.
Speaker 2: Everything's hip hop. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Old school news School, this school, that school, South East
Speaker 6: Coast it's all hip hop.
Speaker 2: It don't matter, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, that's what I ain't never really heard
Speaker 1: a conversation where like I was, it came in a
Speaker 1: way where we're really able to categorize, like it all
Speaker 1: being hip hop. You know, drill was just basically it
Speaker 1: was originally like a term. It's not like we was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, this is drill rap. It's not hip hop,
Speaker 1: you feel me. It was all supposed to have been
Speaker 1: rapped in hip hop because that happened here in Miami.
Speaker 1: Because in Miami, that's what happened with Miami base. It
Speaker 1: tried to make it a sub genre. It's not hip hop,
Speaker 1: it's Miami based music. It's booty music, they called it.
Speaker 6: But now looking now that we're wearing a different time frame,
Speaker 6: now it's all hip hop hip hop, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's different areas and they they interpret hip
Speaker 6: hop differently, right, So.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I ain't like.
Speaker 2: I ain't never like, And that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Even though like people when I used to do interviews,
Speaker 1: you can even pull my old interviews up, I never
Speaker 1: categorized myself or like looked at myself as a drill rapper.
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was a rapper like pop
Speaker 1: artist because I rapped about like soulful ship. I never
Speaker 1: just only did drill beats, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I told stories of my rap I looked up to
Speaker 1: rappers to hold to Lil Wayne and the Jada kids
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying. That's what It's always
Speaker 1: versatile to be able to do that. You know. So
Speaker 1: I think I came up in an era where they
Speaker 1: just considered the drill, but I never really considered myself
Speaker 1: as a drill rapping noise for us. Yes, you got
Speaker 1: you more shots. I'm sorry, let's do it. We just cut.
Speaker 2: You know, why.
Speaker 6: Are you putting in your shot? That means we're taking
Speaker 6: a shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know why, brother, you really legend out here,
Speaker 3: really deserve all the roses, the flowers, all the accolades, everything,
Speaker 3: Like ye're you out here and you're doing it honorably,
Speaker 3: you know, you know what I mean, Like so many
Speaker 3: people from your generation, we'll go, yeah, you know that
Speaker 3: they take that funny route. We don't like that funny rout.
Speaker 3: We like hard work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for real, man, I ain't gonna lie, Niggas
Speaker 1: is right. Really want to just do this ship the
Speaker 1: right way to you, mother, appreciate you, Herbal. You don't
Speaker 1: want no drinks. I see I see you getting a drink.
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you. The ladies. You don't
Speaker 1: want to drinks.
Speaker 2: They got something.
Speaker 1: They got something so about riding with it, right with it,
Speaker 1: right with it?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: That was That was another song like that's crazy, all
Speaker 1: these songs. It was a ship I recorded like during
Speaker 1: the quarantine period, like when niggas really couldn't like travel.
Speaker 1: When I was on like recording PTSD and all that
Speaker 1: ship was going on, I felt like Chicago was outside
Speaker 1: when people was inside. Yeah, okay, I was like COVID
Speaker 1: at all. And then I was outside.
Speaker 2: He was already quarantined before that.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna, I didn't. I was outside. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: went to Prime one twelve one night. I felt like
Speaker 1: we was outside the middle of COVID quarantine side. It
Speaker 1: was literally the game. I said, were outside on my block,
Speaker 1: hunted two hundred deep, in the middle of quarantine, in
Speaker 1: the middle of COVID, sunny outside. Shoot the video.
Speaker 2: I just bought my Rose Royce spent five no mask.
Speaker 1: It's about the color that put that bitch right up
Speaker 1: on the block shot the videos. You feel Me, I
Speaker 1: was just you know like masks. Yeah I had der
Speaker 1: mask in the video on Bro.
Speaker 8: You know that.
Speaker 1: The mass on man in the Trenches, But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that song was. When I look back at it, man,
Speaker 1: it just makes me like real really be like just grateful,
Speaker 1: like the moment of what you get first and foremost
Speaker 1: at the artists, because that's like as an artist, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one of like like my one of my biggest
Speaker 1: songs still to this day, and that's just me on
Speaker 1: some that's the ship I just do naturally like comfortable
Speaker 1: on some rapping shit, just talking about you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the trenches and what I'm thinking on the
Speaker 1: day to day. You feel me. That's still one of
Speaker 1: my biggest songs today. But I'm saying that to say
Speaker 1: like it's just making it like grateful looking back because
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking of what it was gonna be
Speaker 1: to this day and just looking back at people from
Speaker 1: the video that's like not even still hit to this day.
Speaker 1: People that I lost, You feel what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: shit like that just gotta not take moments for granted,
Speaker 1: God bless you do you because a lot of people
Speaker 1: say living in LA it's dangerous as well. Do you
Speaker 1: look at it like that? Yeah? Yeah, that's where you
Speaker 1: live now, Yeah I look at I mean I really
Speaker 1: look at that air place like that, just because I
Speaker 1: feel like to be aware as to be alive, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like always I'm a super alert
Speaker 1: kind of like people might look at it like I'm
Speaker 1: pairing it or whatever, but I'm just always thinking of
Speaker 1: like how I was raised. I think of the worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, so I always be prepared to just do
Speaker 1: whatever to make sure I get home, to make sure
Speaker 1: I'm protected in my family protected, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: like I feel like, and it's crazy because I moved
Speaker 1: to LA to get away from that type of ship LA,
Speaker 1: right that. Yeah, Like no, I'm saying I moved to
Speaker 1: LA because I just not even get away from like
Speaker 1: islence and shit. But like I felt like in Chicago
Speaker 1: at the time, it was like a crabbing a bucket mentality, crabbing,
Speaker 1: a bureau mentality type of shit, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying, Because that's happens every city in
Speaker 6: every city, each in there grabbing.
Speaker 1: They're like yeah, so it's like I felt like LA
Speaker 1: was to get away from that and I could go where,
Speaker 1: you know, be with my family and be with my kids,
Speaker 1: go and enjoy life and enjoying myself without always looking
Speaker 1: over my shoulder, you know what I'm saying. But like
Speaker 1: I'm still taking precaution no matter where I'm at, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's they don't want to be
Speaker 1: capital hard accidents.
Speaker 3: Because I know you're twenty eight, so you probably can't
Speaker 3: fully understand this, But do you realize they say the
Speaker 3: first gangs that ever was invented was in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I'm I really be like.
Speaker 1: As like I'll be paying attention, and I studied that
Speaker 1: type of ship like always. I'm big on like history,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, No matter why, man.
Speaker 2: Like definitely the biggest game. Yeah it's come out.
Speaker 1: I'm big on like just history, especially black history, like
Speaker 1: anything black history, any type of you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'll be into that type of ship. So yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of ship was brought on
Speaker 1: just by for coltrust and kind of rational trauma type
Speaker 1: of shit. You feel me because kind of LA's culture.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say mimicked because that might be
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but I believe Black Pea Stones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the first game in Chicago, and Black Pea
Speaker 1: Stones is the oldest gang in LA or one of
Speaker 1: the oldest gangs that's credibly not saying transformed into what
Speaker 1: what would have transformed into in LA bloods? Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that that originated wasn't wasn't Christ before bloods?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that's the blood part of it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I believe Raymond Washington if
Speaker 3: if I'm not.
Speaker 1: I mean, we definitely don't. I don't know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying saying is the first recorded
Speaker 1: originating in Chicago. Yeah, originated in Chicago.
Speaker 3: So like I don't know if it's the terminology that
Speaker 3: they use gang, if that's what it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that gang definitely originated in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Like I remember going to Chicago. I swear to God
Speaker 3: and I have my my my leg my past leg
Speaker 3: up and people.
Speaker 1: Were like yo yo yo yo one up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what the fun was happening on some games
Speaker 1: on the gang ship. Yeah, I was wearing my hat
Speaker 1: the wrong way one time. They were like hat.
Speaker 2: But I ain't never heard about the legs. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe you here's.
Speaker 1: Your leg and your head on the same I was
Speaker 1: in Puerto Weecan section. Maybe it was some weird ass
Speaker 1: ship look telling me to talk about it. I never
Speaker 1: had's take a shot of that. Let's take a shot
Speaker 1: for that. Goddamn it. That was take a shot for that. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise. I do not them convince you
Speaker 1: to take a shot of that. Yeah, I ain't taking
Speaker 1: a shot. Can you stand my my candle er please?
Speaker 1: S thank you? Bro?
Speaker 3: Kill ship, kill ship, kill ship a little bit me.
Speaker 3: We were speaking about it earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, Bro, put that whole ship together.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Damn.
Speaker 2: I ain't never really even spoke with this. I recorded
Speaker 2: that verse in My.
Speaker 1: Little Brother creb Man long Live, look great. Little bro
Speaker 1: just passed away three years ago, yesterday, yesterday. It was
Speaker 1: just three take a shot for a little bro man.
Speaker 1: You gotta pull me in another shot. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I recorded that video in the living room at Libertal Spot.
Speaker 1: Uh and baby really put the whole ship together. Shower
Speaker 1: dj L recorded, I mean cook the beat up right
Speaker 1: on the spot ship and we really like, I think
Speaker 1: that's probably still one of my biggest streaming songs to
Speaker 1: this day. We really ain't even like know what we
Speaker 1: was doing with that ship. We shot the video. Man,
Speaker 1: he was probably sixteen seventeen, So we shot that video
Speaker 1: at five five in the morning on sunny on Sidney
Speaker 1: a fan Kingston. It's outside posted up on some young ship.
Speaker 1: Just I got a video viral, man, I got a
Speaker 1: video that's still viral. Oh shure, let me take this
Speaker 1: shot for a little bro. Man, So I look so
Speaker 1: for a little broskie. I got a video viral. Me
Speaker 1: and baby free I was freestyl Biby standing next to me.
Speaker 2: I got drunk.
Speaker 1: I had dj L d j L who made a beat.
Speaker 1: He was cooking the ship up on the spot. Like
Speaker 1: literally it's four five in the morning. Niggas young and
Speaker 1: said breaking curfew twenty deep on the block. Uh just
Speaker 1: shot nigga Jordan him shot the video just on some
Speaker 1: random ship, bro, and that ship just went legendary. Man,
Speaker 1: just just just kids trying ship like you felt when
Speaker 1: I look back on it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: we ain't even know where that ship was going. We
Speaker 1: just shot this ship on some random ship on the
Speaker 1: block literally four five in the morning, and that ship
Speaker 1: took us where it needed to go. Got damn fucking
Speaker 1: beautiful all right?
Speaker 3: All right, By the way, this is this is three
Speaker 3: questions back to back because we got three fucking records
Speaker 3: with little Uzi Verkin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very that's my man. Well, we got bro
Speaker 1: got h on my phone, We got everything. Uh, he
Speaker 1: don't know who running ship we got. I got just
Speaker 1: trying to think right the way you think I forgot
Speaker 1: why I've seen him? It was like seven o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw him at seven o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I sent him a shot. He took it at
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: what shot? Did you send him whatever he wanted? Wait, whatever,
Speaker 1: he's at another table. I was like yo, I was
Speaker 1: testing him. I was like yo, telling him, send him,
Speaker 1: send him whatever he wants. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he took the shot. He walked over to my table
Speaker 1: and I sent him another shot and he took it,
Speaker 1: and then he sent me another shot. And we was
Speaker 1: going all night. I'm talking about I don't want to
Speaker 1: say where. Yeah, bro, real nigga, the show like me
Speaker 1: and who he ain't gonna let it me and Who's
Speaker 1: he got a different relationship bro, Me and me and
Speaker 1: broken locked in like literally just like the beginning, like
Speaker 1: I mean since the beginning of his career, like literally
Speaker 1: type of ship. You feel me? This is my shot?
Speaker 1: I mean it's not ours? Ye shot already? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this my fault? Definitely definitely an't drink unless
Speaker 2: your ice melted, just.
Speaker 1: Like like I think your ice soldier that was just
Speaker 1: hanging around your buddy just melted. That's probably just fuddy
Speaker 1: m hm. And you got ice in them, motherfucker, that's probably.
Speaker 1: That's all. I ain't gonna lie to you. If you
Speaker 1: would have hit that stole the elite with concrete, yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be discreet. I ain't running up on it
Speaker 1: as I know who run it first? Yeah, who run it?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: Shout my boy, baby, Man shout baby for Dallas for sure, Man,
Speaker 1: that's who running. That's crazy. I'd be like when I
Speaker 1: thinking about ship, like that ship told me like I
Speaker 1: had there's some funny ass ship, right, I stole my toe.
Speaker 1: I hit my toe on the edge of the bed,
Speaker 1: and my ship was hurting bad as fuck. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even put my shoe on. Which toe? Is that really?
Speaker 2: Damn?
Speaker 1: The little told I couldn't walk the little toe the
Speaker 1: little one bro ship turned black.
Speaker 2: Man, it was fucked up. It was at the top.
Speaker 2: Was like, I don't really look though.
Speaker 1: Man, I couldn't. I couldn't want you take a picture.
Speaker 1: Little To this day, nobody noticed. I really went up
Speaker 1: to the ship, rolled up on the little chill. The
Speaker 1: little one that rolled it wasn't a wheel channel, you know,
Speaker 1: the little chair that spin around the folk. I rolled
Speaker 1: one of them bitches all the way on the elevator
Speaker 1: up to the ship. Did the freestyle. Ship was sucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I ain't even want to do this ship,
Speaker 1: but that ship can't win so viral. After that, I'm like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: I got to just start doing ship when I don't
Speaker 1: even want to do it, Like fuck it, this just
Speaker 1: go through it. That ship taught me a little mintal lesson.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I had did the freestyle and put that
Speaker 1: ship on my page. Then drake head DM me like, man,
Speaker 1: make that ship a song. Okay, talking about Bro, I
Speaker 1: had did a freestyle. I told you I wanted a baby.
Speaker 1: I did freestyle after I stub my toe. I want
Speaker 1: to take your dam after your toe was hurt. After
Speaker 1: I posted the ship on my page. Drake had hit
Speaker 1: me in the DM like, man, make that ship a song.
Speaker 1: Drake is a lection bro, he's alec. Yeah. I wanted
Speaker 1: to drink man, and he told you you the future
Speaker 1: he did, Bro, that's.
Speaker 2: All the record got got to get a record again.
Speaker 2: He can't say that and then not do the record.
Speaker 1: You know that, Man, I'm gonna get it done. You
Speaker 1: know that? Who you played basketball? Yeah? Who you thinking?
Speaker 1: But me and Drake? Yeah?
Speaker 2: As was he?
Speaker 1: Hey what big bro? What man?
Speaker 2: We gave Drake ass work man?
Speaker 1: He was man. He put us out of the studio.
Speaker 1: We want he advels to it. He knows they we won.
Speaker 1: They lost? Wait wait talking about he was in the
Speaker 1: big show? Who was Okay? Hold on, so what happened?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Tell us tell you said the crib in l a
Speaker 2: hooping who was on our team?
Speaker 1: It was me, big Bro? Who's big Bro? We need
Speaker 1: to know a one right there? It's big Bro?
Speaker 2: Okay, Addy was on our team. Wanted to get added
Speaker 2: all all on bro and so.
Speaker 1: This is shot talent against Toronto. Is this what happened? Uh?
Speaker 1: It was that was ourful dash dash he my bro
Speaker 1: Aaron Sharral, you know, big c over geffing on Brodie.
Speaker 2: Okay, Brodie was four and four and we was playing.
Speaker 1: We played. We played Drake little Man, We played Drake
Speaker 1: twenty one Savage who was on the team. It was
Speaker 1: like two more people, ain't lie, we bust the ass though,
Speaker 1: we're not going to Drake bust Drake and twenty one
Speaker 1: Savage twenty one was playing with him to bro But
Speaker 1: that was a little That was a little scrimmage though
Speaker 1: I ain't really gonna do too much bathroom on it.
Speaker 2: But they.
Speaker 1: Beat yourself up and took your back. I'm not sure, y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the game? What? What was it? Like? Like?
Speaker 1: How many wines? How many were probably played? Like eleven
Speaker 1: weelve eleven or some ship. It was probably like four yeah,
Speaker 1: four four court court, full court? Where was this at
Speaker 1: l A L A l A. So you smoked Drake.
Speaker 2: And twenty one We.
Speaker 1: Won in the phone for Yeah, we beat them. That's
Speaker 1: what happened, everybody.
Speaker 3: I just want to be commentary for parking sure, you
Speaker 3: know versus once this ship goes, contends to.
Speaker 1: Let's start the back. Nobody gonna want to rematch, you
Speaker 1: know how this ship goes.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the side commentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do the side commentary.
Speaker 2: You we're gonna host it. We're gonna host it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna host it.
Speaker 2: About shots, and it's gonna be a charity game.
Speaker 1: We can't wait. So you saying if you all right?
Speaker 1: So you and who against Drake and twenty one Savage
Speaker 1: two on two, Me and Brow, me and Brunt, No smoke,
Speaker 1: He just said no, we won't. Yeah you said no,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna smoke them like He's like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk about so two on two. I'm calling ice
Speaker 1: Que tomorrow. We're gonna make a different league. Me and
Speaker 1: bro against him in twenty one. That's sweet. Let me go.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you what's your favorite? Making the
Speaker 1: record or performing the record? May making your record, right,
Speaker 1: I think making the record because just to create a
Speaker 1: space of I feel like when you like from an
Speaker 1: artist respect. In my opinion, I'm already making the record
Speaker 1: with purpose and knowing if I'm going to perform and
Speaker 1: shoot it or whatever. Already already know what you're doing
Speaker 1: with exactly. So it's like I'm already like once once
Speaker 1: I'm at least getting the process of it. I can
Speaker 1: figure how that's gonna recollect and shows or whatever from
Speaker 1: the first day I'll make it, you know what I'm saying, Shows, video,
Speaker 1: how it's gonna be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You do a lot of festivals, right, yeah? I do festivals. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, I mean I heard you you
Speaker 2: you be out the big festival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I done LATAs. I did LATAs and you know
Speaker 1: rolling laughs and all this ship. Yeah, all the big
Speaker 1: festivals that's turk Urban. Yeah. Yeah. I like the fact
Speaker 1: that you say that.
Speaker 3: Some people say that they think that you don't have
Speaker 3: a hit record, but you say, I can't tell because
Speaker 3: my fans.
Speaker 1: Is it's a hit with fans and matter every motherfucking night.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'll be saying this a lot, like
Speaker 1: like not in a bad way. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: I'll be like I feel like one hit record away
Speaker 1: because I never really called a break while I went
Speaker 1: top Billboard and no shit like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I always built the core fan base
Speaker 1: because I stayed consistent in a way where I feel,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The people who fuck with me,
Speaker 1: you feel me like organically, whether it's like me dropping
Speaker 1: enough projects on me just being featured on enough shit
Speaker 1: because everybody fuck with me, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: delivering in that type of way. But and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I feel like I ain't never really had
Speaker 1: the advantage to just really drop consistently how I wanted to,
Speaker 1: because I ain't never mapped it up the way I
Speaker 1: wanted to. You feel what I'm saying and what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that like on some shit, well like me being
Speaker 1: independent the whole time, I can drop music, but I
Speaker 1: ain't never really like putting the rollouts where it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, bet I'm from the drop folk mixtapes or
Speaker 1: two albums or some shit. There's a certain budget allocatese
Speaker 1: how you do it exactly because I know Nigga really
Speaker 1: doing this shit independence so on. Everything is how you
Speaker 1: can do it when that can do it, you feel
Speaker 1: I'm saying exactly, you know how this shit goes. It's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're having that. If I would have
Speaker 1: had the advantage to really do that. From a perspective
Speaker 1: of somebody who got a label budget or whatever, he'll say,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, shit, I feel like
Speaker 1: ship would probably like slowed me down. I'm glad it,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, I'm glad I built
Speaker 1: some shit organically where it's like I don't have to
Speaker 1: chase it, right, I don't have to chase it.
Speaker 6: You're better than most artists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You don't need that machine. You don't need that budget.
Speaker 6: If the budget comes to you, eventually, you're gonna know
Speaker 6: how to use it, but you don't need that like
Speaker 6: to have to not have a hit record like the
Speaker 6: technical hit record and have the falling you have is amazing,
Speaker 6: man like like salutes.
Speaker 1: Your fans are crazy.
Speaker 2: B I'm saying, it's like I feel like that ship
Speaker 2: really but I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna Benna be his devil advocate if they come with
Speaker 3: that bag. Some labels take that guy, Damn.
Speaker 1: Me and him.
Speaker 6: Read the contract problem. Don't just take the back. The
Speaker 6: one is that the back is a loan man. It's alone.
Speaker 6: It's not a bad It's very true. Very I'm gonna
Speaker 6: hold onto it a little bit like it's like.
Speaker 1: This, you know it's very true.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was like I said, it was
Speaker 1: like some I didn't even know what it was like
Speaker 1: in my math, didn't know what it was. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was building like a real business where I
Speaker 1: can go. I got the opportunity to like say, yeah, Nick,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You feel me like we're
Speaker 1: building it because I don't have to like put it.
Speaker 1: I could put out music and just feed my audience,
Speaker 1: Like I don't got to make sure I got a
Speaker 1: single or whatever before I drop an album or you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like just certain ship, I got
Speaker 1: the advantage. It's just pros and cons with being able
Speaker 1: to just be like independent, having a coin fan base
Speaker 1: where it's like they just wait on me to drop music.
Speaker 1: They don't get on.
Speaker 2: You're in a place where every artist wants to be in.
Speaker 1: It is like, do't matter what the fuck I drop
Speaker 1: or drop it, they just tuned in for what's coming up.
Speaker 3: And you got this weird balance, right, Because what I
Speaker 3: mean by that is most of the time you have
Speaker 3: the respect from the fans or you have the respect
Speaker 3: from the industry. A lot of people don't have that
Speaker 3: balance of having both, and you got that, like, you
Speaker 3: got the respect from the fans. The fans respect you
Speaker 3: equally how the industry respects you. And that's, like I said,
Speaker 3: I labeled it weird because I have no other word
Speaker 3: to name because that's weird. I've never seen that. I've
Speaker 3: never really seen the equal amount of respect. Do you
Speaker 3: do you feel that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's just like and when I
Speaker 1: hear it from like like from people, Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: definitely take a shot for that. You know that.
Speaker 2: I'm just let's take two shots for that, brother, Let's
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Because because because because.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie shots, we've been doing that shots.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I need another one. I've been we've been
Speaker 1: doing shots. She said, I got you. But that's a
Speaker 1: that's a seldom very rare thing. Now I'll be noticing
Speaker 1: that though, Bro, I don't last like it just comes
Speaker 1: from from being solid. Man. I just been trying to
Speaker 1: like and it's like I felt like in a way,
Speaker 1: no funny ship, Like I think when I when I
Speaker 1: was so young and when this ship started taking off
Speaker 1: of me, I think I didn't just like understand why
Speaker 1: I start power understand who I was. Well I never
Speaker 1: really got close to like certain other artists or it
Speaker 1: did certain capitalize all that. Yeah, I didn't capitalize on
Speaker 1: it early on, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I felt like with that, like and people fucked
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: By the time it got to a point where I
Speaker 1: think I felt comfortable with myself. People fucked with me,
Speaker 1: and then I was able to build general relationships where
Speaker 1: it's like now these people I fuck with, I actually
Speaker 1: fuck with, like on a genuine relationship or level, or
Speaker 1: a personal relationship level, like a business relation, business relationship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like it's just really growing on that type of shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think that just came from really
Speaker 1: it was natural though, because I wasn't And I see
Speaker 1: now like I started learning years later that shit really
Speaker 1: handled my career where it's like certain shit, I wasn't
Speaker 1: pulling up to certain shows when artists was in town
Speaker 1: come out and do certain shit, Like I remember one time, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lot my homie Kobe Man god Rich.
Speaker 1: So he got killed in twenty and thirteen, and and
Speaker 1: TI had came to the town. He had came to Chicago,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, trying to get up
Speaker 1: with a nigga, like Tip was trying to get up.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, he wanted me to pull up to
Speaker 1: the shop on Stony and but literally I saw the
Speaker 1: gone outside waiting on the ambulams and picked my homie
Speaker 1: body up. Off we write there, sorry for that watching them.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, like certain shiit like and
Speaker 1: I feel like it hinted like hinting my career because
Speaker 1: I used to have that same type of mask. Said well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't just doing shit because I felt like I
Speaker 1: was like too like deep in the streets. So I
Speaker 1: felt like I was too like stuck in my way
Speaker 1: as well. I ain't want to like put myself in
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable environment or uncomfortable like place to try to
Speaker 1: like go mingle with other people with stars and shit
Speaker 1: like that. You feel what I'm saying, like, because I
Speaker 1: ain't want to, like just going to LAMB was just
Speaker 1: trying to like you should me. So it's just ain't
Speaker 1: gona lie for years and year that ship was my problem. Though.
Speaker 1: I moved to Miami, right, and I would like to
Speaker 1: say Miami saved my life. Right, Well, you're welcome, damn
Speaker 1: tell them how you really feel.
Speaker 3: But I was saying, I was like, yeah, I would
Speaker 3: just say that Miami kind of saved my life, right, because.
Speaker 1: But I still get those phone calls. Yeah such and
Speaker 1: such is over for him. You know, he just died.
Speaker 1: They killed him over there that I fell to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, Miami helps me deal with that pain that's
Speaker 1: being in La. Help you, because I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we get the same phone now, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like La definitely did that because that's dope,
Speaker 1: even like just being in a different environment that it's
Speaker 1: not a brown You feel what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: remember Chief Keith moved to l A right exactly, Like
Speaker 1: That's why I got with the Paintball ship. That's why
Speaker 1: I really that's another reason why I really just like
Speaker 1: fuck with SoCal so much because he just always took
Speaker 1: a chance and just doing ship like he just went
Speaker 1: to l A. You feel me like they gave other
Speaker 1: niggas like that's what it's like, Damn Social could do it,
Speaker 1: we could do it, Like that's what I felt like.
Speaker 1: You feel me like Social more to l A. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I could go to LA you know what I'm saying. Yo,
Speaker 1: when it did, bro Like you know, but that ship
Speaker 1: was like when that ship wasn't possible to us, like
Speaker 1: niggas going to move to l A type of Los
Speaker 1: Angeles lost one and never coming back Like that was
Speaker 1: my intentions, Like I'm going to go out there and
Speaker 1: never come back. You feel me like that's what I
Speaker 1: felt like and still rep the city and still the city,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But of course nigga really
Speaker 1: went back and you know what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like we didn't even think that shit was possible
Speaker 1: for folks went out then that made me like, all right, man,
Speaker 1: folks could do it. We could do it. That's real ship.
Speaker 3: Talk about Blues feature in the future. Blue was on
Speaker 3: Bro very hard to get Future on the record on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah you cannot get Future on the record. Yeah that's
Speaker 3: big Brow.
Speaker 1: I ain't only.
Speaker 2: Future like no boys shit.
Speaker 1: He he wanted to like real, like real niggas that
Speaker 1: really like gave niggas some like guy, that's when they
Speaker 1: came to real life ship like this is why I
Speaker 1: really fun with fun with Big Bro for real, because
Speaker 1: he employed you to the side and like tell you
Speaker 1: some ship that you wouldn't even think he was paying
Speaker 1: attention to. Like that's what made me know, like big Bro,
Speaker 1: it is a real nigga, Like he had come tell
Speaker 1: me some ship like yeah, man, I've seen this or
Speaker 1: some ship they got probably do it like your carell
Speaker 1: or some personal ship and you wouldn't even think you
Speaker 1: no big like big up, yeah, big Bro for real
Speaker 1: because like that unless you know, like he really fuck
Speaker 1: with me gingerly trying to taste and ship that like
Speaker 1: I really help you, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: so like music.
Speaker 3: He see the whole ship like heep keeping down with
Speaker 3: Dungeon Family exact then.
Speaker 1: He's hip hop.
Speaker 2: The first time I metic Bro was was in the
Speaker 2: hood anyway, like in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What what the first time
Speaker 1: you met Future was in where Yeah? Yeah yeah, shout
Speaker 1: of the zone, man, big bro. Bro, first time I
Speaker 1: met Pluto was h you call him Future. We realize
Speaker 1: you've been calling interview you know, yeah, that's that's name
Speaker 1: the world. But yeah, the first time I met Bros
Speaker 1: ship like twenty sixteen or some ship, and like in
Speaker 1: the neighbor in my neighborhood though, like right, but he
Speaker 1: was just hanging out in your neighborhood, bro, Nah, stop
Speaker 1: for real, no bullshit. He didn't on you. No, he
Speaker 1: was outside posted up in the trenches. Man, stop that
Speaker 1: I ain't for real, Future just outside on your hood
Speaker 1: in your.
Speaker 2: Hood, brola.
Speaker 1: He was to his own man shouts on the front
Speaker 1: of Yeah, the first time I met him just pulled
Speaker 1: up on on some random ship. But yeah, bro, real nigga.
Speaker 2: Ain't know you before you met.
Speaker 1: Him, like you just hain't no hanging on me? Hell no,
Speaker 1: not for real. Well he knew me a little bit,
Speaker 1: but not. No. Yeah, that's fine, Future, you know that
Speaker 1: let's talk about this record. How did you how did
Speaker 1: you come about? Since on bro south Side south Side
Speaker 1: he had put the ship together. I was putting the
Speaker 1: hour he was in Miami. I had pulled up on him.
Speaker 1: You know, broke. He you know that's ship easy for broke,
Speaker 1: for for for for the future man, that ship he
Speaker 1: definitely don't right. Yeah, this shit come like second Nation.
Speaker 1: Just you put up on brow in the studio, you
Speaker 1: just play some shit. If he fucked with it that ship,
Speaker 1: then it takes him like twenty minutes. He's just like,
Speaker 1: I ain't never really like and I ain't lie when
Speaker 1: when when he recorded that ship? When he recorded it,
Speaker 1: I had went back on my second verse cuz like
Speaker 1: I seen like how he like his whole process and
Speaker 1: ship like how he did it. It made me go back.
Speaker 1: It made me go back on my ship like on
Speaker 1: the second part, like on the second part of my verse,
Speaker 1: like just basically how like you go like different catuses
Speaker 1: like I'll be like I'll be seeing some rap shit.
Speaker 1: You know, I just really just try to like go
Speaker 1: by for bah like I like, after bro putting some
Speaker 1: shit on there, I may it made like take the
Speaker 1: bars off, go different catus like on some a lot
Speaker 1: of shit type shit, but like yeah, shout out the
Speaker 1: broke on he he just challenging niggas just on some
Speaker 1: how it was recording process. He get in and just
Speaker 1: and I'm sure any nigga could contest when you getting
Speaker 1: in the studio, Pulo, like how you record it just
Speaker 1: makes you want to.
Speaker 2: Like, I love.
Speaker 3: Listen because you got like fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1: Features, right, yeah, I got a lot of features. Now
Speaker 1: I got you sot sourced up.
Speaker 3: Has there ever been somebody that fronting on you that
Speaker 3: you wanted to do a record with.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it real.
Speaker 3: Now you're wanna drink chance, keep it real now, one
Speaker 3: person in fronting on everybody. Let's just keep it real.
Speaker 3: I got my Maya front of it on me. She's
Speaker 3: coming under this. She did a record with her.
Speaker 1: Yes, I did a record with her. You I won't
Speaker 1: really say fronted, but if I was gonna say, like
Speaker 1: any creature I really anticipated coming out that never really
Speaker 1: coming and came out that I was trying to fuck with,
Speaker 1: was was ya your head for me?
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, this is before down. That was like
Speaker 2: two three years ago.
Speaker 1: I was locked in. Yeah, we had did like two
Speaker 1: three songs. I pulled up on in the rack and
Speaker 1: I did some other ship in New York. He had
Speaker 1: sent me. We had blond hair at this time. This
Speaker 1: was like, right, be photoblode, before the blod before the.
Speaker 3: Spots in the head, toause, I'm trying to figure out, bro, Bro,
Speaker 3: this is before before that, before the spots in the head. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, so y'all winning the studio.
Speaker 2: In Chicago, y'all.
Speaker 1: But we had did some ship. He really like, I
Speaker 1: had I laid some ship and he told me to
Speaker 1: redo it. Of course, you know how he is. He's
Speaker 1: super like strategic, picky and ship. But when he did,
Speaker 1: I feel like when he told me to redo it,
Speaker 1: that ship was over hard, like he made me do
Speaker 1: some crazy.
Speaker 2: He wasn't feeling that. No, no, I did. I liked
Speaker 2: that I fun through the ship. But you was agreeing
Speaker 2: with him telling you to redo it?
Speaker 1: Y yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, but like what really, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, when I did the ship the ship,
Speaker 1: I was thinking that sh was going to come out
Speaker 1: on his project. But I was trying to use it
Speaker 1: too though. I was trying to use it for some
Speaker 1: of my ship. So he basically, ain't let me use
Speaker 1: it for me trying to get some ship thinking it's
Speaker 1: gonna come on his ship, and it ain't never come
Speaker 1: on his ship.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I ain't really Why couldn't you
Speaker 2: use it?
Speaker 1: I don't want to use it no more? After after
Speaker 1: it was already put my Huh you didn't want to
Speaker 1: use it? I had already put my project out. Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: If you have a chance with you work with Kanye
Speaker 3: gon produced or produced and feature.
Speaker 1: You know he probably like work. Then they're gonna produce
Speaker 1: the ship anyway. Let somebody else do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like, I ain't gonna lie to
Speaker 1: with or like, I just like just got a different
Speaker 1: type of love for you because you know he's from
Speaker 1: the crib man. Yeah, I got a lot, but he's
Speaker 1: super genius. Let me just say, yeah, superhasic. I write
Speaker 1: rhymes and calligraphy in my mind.
Speaker 2: Calligraphy I killed that out of control right now.
Speaker 3: And graffiti calligraphy and graffiti, calligraffiti, calligraphiti No one if
Speaker 3: I if you, if I show you how I write rhymes,
Speaker 3: you'll be like, there's no way.
Speaker 1: That's a rhyme.
Speaker 3: The only man in the world that could read my rhymes. Kanye,
Speaker 3: that man read my ship. We were in carbon and
Speaker 3: were sitting there. What's the guy name was? What's the
Speaker 3: guy named.
Speaker 1: U? Trump's trumps homie Jared Kushner.
Speaker 2: Come on, that's a weird name drop right now.
Speaker 1: Bro, Oh you think I'm bullshit?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think I got that and
Speaker 2: everything that aut Yeah, you don't know we talking about.
Speaker 2: So I'm in Crump's daughter's husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm in car Phone who was a
Speaker 1: part of Trump's cabinet. So I'm in there and then
Speaker 1: and then and Yea said something to me, and I'm like.
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I was when Jared was right there, Yeah, Jared, Jared,
Speaker 6: he said listen, you're right.
Speaker 1: He said, well.
Speaker 3: I was like, so Yay said something and I said, oh, ship, Look,
Speaker 3: I was writing this earlier. So I showed it to him,
Speaker 3: thinking like, because no one can read my handwriting, it's
Speaker 3: just not possible. Nobody pone my wife, nobody that nigga
Speaker 3: ye read my ship like he was.
Speaker 1: Proh was like he really read. And when he was
Speaker 1: wrapping it, you know what I'm saying, like, y rapped
Speaker 1: rapping it like he's reading like I grabbed my phone,
Speaker 1: giving me my ship. I had never knew any no, no,
Speaker 1: go back, go back, go back, relax list hold on, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait wait yeah, come on, let's go.
Speaker 2: Now. We both we got both got quite away what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He read your lyrics that you wrote, he said,
Speaker 2: rapping it, like all right.
Speaker 1: And this is real talk. He had just did the
Speaker 1: Cardi B verse.
Speaker 3: So when he did the CARDIV verse, he says something
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, ship, look I wrote that
Speaker 3: this morning. Whatever he said on the Cardi B verse,
Speaker 3: I was like, loo, I suanted to say I wrote that.
Speaker 1: Most people would look at that one line and give
Speaker 1: you back your phone. He sat there and read my
Speaker 1: whole rhyme.
Speaker 2: He was like, how many how many verses you had?
Speaker 1: How many? It's like a.
Speaker 2: Twenty four bar verse, and he reaped it the whole line.
Speaker 1: I said, motherfucker, I never capoon, can't do that. I
Speaker 1: wrapped your pool for my whole fucking life.
Speaker 2: But he wrapped in a way that you were like me, yes,
Speaker 2: what you said? He wrapped in what because this is
Speaker 2: the thing you're saying that.
Speaker 1: He said it in a way that it sounded like
Speaker 1: you yes, yes, I swear to God I had never
Speaker 1: I gave him my phone expected him to be That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to figure out. Like that's saying he
Speaker 1: reading it or you're saying read it like like you're confusing.
Speaker 1: Wait hold please, So I'm here for the ship. So
Speaker 1: you're saying he reading it off your notes right or
Speaker 1: your handwriting? It's not your hand right now? He goes
Speaker 1: my hand right on his phone owns my hand, right
Speaker 1: hand right right right? Bro stopping, bro, what do you
Speaker 1: mean it was my hand? It was my notes.
Speaker 2: There's my notes tell writing?
Speaker 1: Wait what.
Speaker 2: You you another?
Speaker 1: You're another way?
Speaker 2: Is he tripping on my tripping?
Speaker 1: He's tripping? Okay, what's your phone right? It's on my
Speaker 1: phone hand? All right? Listen, listen, listen. Let me let
Speaker 1: me read editate just saying he plays me the Cardid
Speaker 1: verse that he had just did for Cardi B.
Speaker 2: This's not outright.
Speaker 1: So one line on there, I wanted him to know
Speaker 1: on your phone what you just said. I wrote this
Speaker 1: on your phone, on my phone. So I showed him
Speaker 1: my notes, my voice, not my voice. No excuse me,
Speaker 1: Uh you know a yellow pad, but you ain't.
Speaker 2: I'm not your hand.
Speaker 3: It's not my hand, right, Okay, you're fucking found motherfucker.
Speaker 1: The I'm so I'm tripping though, that's my what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that because the reason why I'm saying, I don't yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, you know I don't know what you what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, one can't read my ship, all right,
Speaker 1: because I'm writing the feeding all right, so he read it.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, all right, so even how you read it,
Speaker 1: he read me and your flow, how you would have
Speaker 1: rapped like me? Like how you would have wrapped it?
Speaker 3: Yes, And I got scared if a motherfucker, I said,
Speaker 3: give you up my phone?
Speaker 2: Have any bards like it.
Speaker 1: Was it was like twenty four he hit all twenty
Speaker 1: four but like he was just like and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this motherfucker like because I'm like, who the hell
Speaker 1: said that? Yeah, I'm like, oh my phone, give back
Speaker 1: that niggas a gens. I believe that. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: lawyer Feest, Lawyer Feast.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, let's see that's that's that's Polo again. Man.
Speaker 1: You know little good Yeah, man, liberal got a different
Speaker 1: type of chemistry. Man, you call him. You got a
Speaker 1: nickname for heybody, what he said? Bro, I said, Polo,
Speaker 1: that's just Broski Bro Okay, Well yeah, man man, we
Speaker 1: got a different type of chemistry for Shure, Like I said,
Speaker 1: we getting it. But Bro, thank you. Listen, guys, I
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with this side of the room.
Speaker 2: Work like that.
Speaker 1: That you know that one with the Champaga Kodak, you
Speaker 1: go break He's home bro home, Yeah for sure, man man,
Speaker 1: that's the homie. Bro. That's my dog. Is a good dude. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Coke Coke cod I ain't gonna lie, you cannot.
Speaker 3: We love you, Kodak, stay home, stay home, Kodak.
Speaker 1: We love you. Bro. I love that that boy. Let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. Let me address the critics
Speaker 1: real quick. The critics and what a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, Oh my god, he was so fun drink chance,
Speaker 1: he's fucking drunk. That's a lie.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker stayed here for four hours afterwards if he
Speaker 3: was high.
Speaker 1: And fucked up out of here.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker stayed out here and shut down on the block,
Speaker 3: the whole block. He stayed here and fucking sign autographs.
Speaker 1: Bro, like you broke bro Man, niggas smart as hell,
Speaker 1: Kodak and real on, man, come on, man, let's leap.
Speaker 1: And I hate addressing like you know, ship like that,
Speaker 1: but you know, I wanted to defend him one to
Speaker 1: defending him. He was not high, he was he was,
Speaker 1: he was cool, he was he was just Kodak man bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Yak was just being yak man bro.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about y'all generation.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of our generation started to judge.
Speaker 1: Y'all in that aspect.
Speaker 3: What I mean is that's we was exactly y'all, exactly
Speaker 3: everything y'all did, we did, but then now that we're older,
Speaker 3: we were.
Speaker 1: Over they let him do that. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's probably like the internet perception, like everything being
Speaker 1: broadcasted on the Internet. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think like everybody clicked the judge us and like I'm
Speaker 1: George y'all. You know what I'm saying. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, bro, every like every artist, everybody
Speaker 1: got their own flaws, got an on every you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like personal ship going on, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But like like I ain't saying like
Speaker 1: no artists for instance, or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: Like and I'm glad that you're saying that, because Ship,
Speaker 1: all we did was follow the footsteps of what we've
Speaker 1: seen and what we do.
Speaker 2: You know, we're just right, which is not necessarily right.
Speaker 1: That wasn't necessarily right, but it was right because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was the foundation of
Speaker 1: helping us get to where we are. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, all done something that was unthinkable or seeing
Speaker 1: or heard, and what's wrong and it was wrong. It
Speaker 1: was wrong.
Speaker 2: I always say something our generation fucked up.
Speaker 1: Our generation fucked up this kind of And I'm not blaming.
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming Noor.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody pointing on fish. No, but no, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you something right now.
Speaker 6: This is what I'm from the DJ aspect, not the
Speaker 6: artist aspect, but the DJs. What happened is in the
Speaker 6: nineties hip hop started making money, real money.
Speaker 1: This is my my opinion.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: It's my opinion.
Speaker 6: And what I think happened is that the artist said,
Speaker 6: who Ship, we're making real money. We're not going to
Speaker 6: ever get hold It's like the Yolo forever. We're not
Speaker 6: gonna pass down information and we're not gonna change anything.
Speaker 6: We're not gonna this is not a culture. We're gonna
Speaker 6: make this business. We're gonna make money forever. And then
Speaker 6: that's what happened. There was a stagnation of information of
Speaker 6: culture and.
Speaker 1: To a mad big words and information.
Speaker 6: But he knows, he's words. He don't know, it's just real, man.
Speaker 6: And that's that's what happened, bro. Like like there was
Speaker 6: a part of a section of time where people stop
Speaker 6: informing each other.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, he right now, because it's like we
Speaker 1: picked up the the back the ship, the backlash and
Speaker 1: everything y'all did right and wrong. Y'all right, everything wrong
Speaker 1: y'all did? We picked up too? You knowe what I'm
Speaker 1: saying right was yeah, wrong and right. So it's like
Speaker 1: it was a you know, we gotta of course be grateful.
Speaker 1: We got to take what come with it, like you said,
Speaker 1: you gotta take that come in the bad. But as
Speaker 1: far as like the like the perspective imagery, like the
Speaker 1: perspective of an artist and what you put out and
Speaker 1: the negativity that come behind that and just the misinformation
Speaker 1: of the business and whatever. You know what I'm saying exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like you just said the same thing.
Speaker 1: So like both of them, it was like it was
Speaker 1: like a two flip coin. We took in a good
Speaker 1: and a bad. It was just what came ahad, you know,
Speaker 1: the generation before us, and then it's like the generation
Speaker 1: after us going to do the same thing.
Speaker 3: That was like, I mean, it's deep because to a
Speaker 3: certain extent, I take place in that right you do,
Speaker 3: we do?
Speaker 2: We do?
Speaker 3: Meaning there was a lot of foul artists that came
Speaker 3: before me, and when I seen them, they never gave
Speaker 3: me advice. So I was like, fuck it, right, fuck them, nigga,
Speaker 3: right this industry, it's true. I'm gonna stay in my
Speaker 3: own fucking zone. And then I actually didn't give advice
Speaker 3: to young homies when I seen them. When I seen them,
Speaker 3: I felt like they felt like how I felt like
Speaker 3: fucking this young, this older nigga, because everybody.
Speaker 1: And the older older is actually dope. The older you
Speaker 1: get to be old.
Speaker 2: It's a luxury. It's a luxury.
Speaker 6: Come.
Speaker 2: That's why I look up to to That's why I
Speaker 2: look up to you.
Speaker 1: I mean so much. You know what I'm saying. But listen,
Speaker 1: like how you seeing that that ship only passed on
Speaker 1: generating the marijuana. You want to go back to blunt? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is, this is this is you want
Speaker 1: to call it. You want to color cocaine, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is blunt. I ain't smoking cool so long my lungs
Speaker 1: are still on drink. But so what I'm saying to say,
Speaker 1: it's like so like for like the generation you're saying, like,
Speaker 1: all right, fucking these niggas, I ain't sharing, no, lie,
Speaker 1: ain't showing up what Like in the industry, I see
Speaker 1: first hearing the niggas like you might have like bad
Speaker 1: experience with a certain artist.
Speaker 2: Now you don't fuck with nobody dudes, like and that's
Speaker 2: you Just that's terrible.
Speaker 1: That it's like, damn, Now the next nigga who you
Speaker 1: might really fuck with, you look, he might looking at
Speaker 1: you like you a certain way. You might be looking
Speaker 1: at him like he is a certain way. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying just off the fact that you just
Speaker 1: holding on to that and that's going hinder your career too,
Speaker 1: just like you feel me. It's just like I didn't
Speaker 1: seen that shit firsthand, Like you got to meet Nipsey,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Nipper, you know it's so crazy, man, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't even being funny. I'm glad you asking these questions.
Speaker 1: This shit like coming up because one of my first
Speaker 1: experiences when I first met Nipsey, I was I used
Speaker 1: to be going to l A like I was like
Speaker 1: twenty younger said, I'm in the rental. I think I'm
Speaker 1: in like a Bentley or something. I'm going to a
Speaker 1: random as seven eleven. That's when I'm used to be
Speaker 1: drinking lane all type of ship. I'm going to a.
Speaker 2: Random seven eleven and I'm going to grab like a
Speaker 2: kid or something.
Speaker 1: This nigga Nip pull up in a black may Back dole,
Speaker 1: little bad itself go to the ATM looking. I'm like this,
Speaker 1: Nip do look I know that seven eleven. No, we
Speaker 1: wasn't even in Beverly Hills. He was like, we was
Speaker 1: about a wash boss on gal so someone we was
Speaker 1: in the We wasn't in no Beverly Hills. Now he
Speaker 1: pulled up eating the Mayback on bro. I hollered on
Speaker 1: like damn you know like this was early on and
Speaker 1: U g herbro at this time. No, we were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who I am. You know I wouldn't turn
Speaker 1: turn I'm like on some like I'm just turning in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm turning in on Bro and I see Bro, you know,
Speaker 1: like we just fucking around like damn, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That just maybe like that's how we
Speaker 1: locked in, Like I ain't gonna lie. It was just
Speaker 1: like like every like since that day, you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Me and Bro like always had like a
Speaker 1: different you know what I'm saying, but that shit crazy.
Speaker 1: That was one of my first like LA experiences, was
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like you you just moved there at
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 2: I was just visiting that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even moving there, like it was one of
Speaker 1: my first LA experiences, and I'm seeing him like it
Speaker 1: was I was like on some fan shit, Yeah you
Speaker 1: feel me Like I'm like, damn, I gonna nep. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, Well, he pull up in the
Speaker 1: maybag though little bad self. But I'm like, damn, Bro,
Speaker 1: real street nails. You like though little Badself, you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like godless and so I saw the
Speaker 1: god that ship that made me like super gravitate to
Speaker 1: him like damn. That was my first time ever meeting
Speaker 1: him though, But it wasn't on no rap shit. You
Speaker 1: feel me like me and Bro never got no chance
Speaker 1: to do no music or nothing like that. But every
Speaker 1: time we see each other it was much you love
Speaker 1: and shit, it's off that one acounter bro, Bro, we
Speaker 1: got to a shot for that on Bro, Damn, damn.
Speaker 2: I ain't got no They gotta bring me on from here.
Speaker 2: She said, you want some of this?
Speaker 1: You I think you want you want some of this, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put some of this in him. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: cook gag some of you. Just gonna try to get
Speaker 1: you across over to the.
Speaker 2: Look recipes in that.
Speaker 1: Bro, But me keep it back to you. Man, Do
Speaker 1: you realize how much hip hop love you? You realize
Speaker 1: how much hip hop fuck with you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You do? Now you I'm starting, yeah, like all finish,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize for real.
Speaker 2: You go, like appreciate the culture for it's doing for you.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely appreciating it. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 2: like it loves you.
Speaker 1: Bro. I started so early and it's like still young,
Speaker 1: and I'm just yelling. I think I'm so ambitious. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like just me trying to be trying
Speaker 1: to go out legendary and be perfect. I feel like
Speaker 1: i'd be a little hard on myself, but I do realize,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: And then what made me realize I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: is getting loved from like niggas that I really grew
Speaker 1: up listening to and looking up to, like niggas like
Speaker 1: you and these niggas like kids, or just any niggas
Speaker 1: that I really grew up fucking with. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the Waynes Drakes, Plutos, everybody that I
Speaker 1: really like, ad Maya. You feel what I'm saying like
Speaker 1: ever in my life, and I really feel genuine love
Speaker 1: from them. That'd be the like the really extra push
Speaker 1: that I really fuck with, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then like it'd be like when I fuck with
Speaker 1: like my peers and like the youngest generation too, I
Speaker 1: be always wanting to like just fuck with niggas Like
Speaker 1: That's why even any little artists that come out of
Speaker 1: Chicago or any other city that I know going crazy,
Speaker 1: like I just gam shit, I just be jumping on
Speaker 1: shit like whatever, because I wanted to do like I
Speaker 1: feel like I Maya when Wayne went on that run
Speaker 1: and he was just on everybody shit, no matter who
Speaker 1: you were, as long as you was turned up and
Speaker 1: coming whoever. Like he just went on everybody's ship. Like
Speaker 1: I got that same mentality because I looked up to
Speaker 1: it and like, Wayne, you feel me, and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's showing love at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: But it's just like it's like it's competition because I'm
Speaker 1: in competition with myself. Well, I just want to be
Speaker 1: on everybody's ship. I want to be heard. You feel me,
Speaker 1: But I'm just showing love. There's so many artists and
Speaker 1: I don't mean look at it like that. You feel me,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do a record, bro, got a fine
Speaker 1: one because you are elder crazy tomorrow. But man, let
Speaker 1: me just say we're not Internet's motherfucker hitting too. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you know more boy boris right there rolling in hip hop.
Speaker 5: Starting the park it all. You know, Uh saved all
Speaker 5: of my life. But hip hop.
Speaker 1: It's a business. At what point did you start to say, damn,
Speaker 1: just this ain't about the law. This is about the business.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. I'm glad you're aking that. Like now
Speaker 1: just became to a point after me doing this shit
Speaker 1: for ten twelve years where it's like I did so
Speaker 1: much shit I love it don't even matter no more.
Speaker 1: I've done everything you can out of the world. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying this, And it was really like,
Speaker 1: well a point where like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, some certain people say that shit where they
Speaker 1: feel like it's coming from a place of resentfulness, you know,
Speaker 1: like meaning what like when people say like, alright, there's
Speaker 1: no more, no more shit, I ain't doing no more
Speaker 1: shit out of love. You feel what I'm saying Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like certain times when people do that, it's
Speaker 1: come from a place resentful. It's where they feel like
Speaker 1: they don't want to do it because they angry about something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm on some shit
Speaker 1: where it's like I just know everything I put forth.
Speaker 1: I know my work, so it's like I don't have
Speaker 1: to like already done, like where it's like even when
Speaker 1: it got to do it actually charged us, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't did so much shit out of love. I don't
Speaker 1: got to charge for nothing. I could go get a
Speaker 1: favor from it. Then anybody in the industry justice my
Speaker 1: face card good. But I did so much side of shit,
Speaker 1: you got credit. You feel what I'm saying, like no bullshit,
Speaker 1: and like that's worth more than money, you feel me,
Speaker 1: So it's way more worth them, Yeah, exactly. And I
Speaker 1: learned that really like on some shit right now where
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't did so much shit just on
Speaker 1: some here here here because I'm just trying to show love.
Speaker 1: But it was actually beneficial to so many people where
Speaker 1: it changed last it did help niggas careers or you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, shit, it put
Speaker 1: me in favor, you know, it put me in favor
Speaker 1: to be able to go get you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Shit doesn't need to be if I need to, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like shit, and it
Speaker 1: happened organically. I wasn't doing the intensity like all right,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this because I want to favor, you know,
Speaker 1: Like shit just happened, and it's like now I could
Speaker 1: go reach out to my reach go far, like whether
Speaker 1: it's for me or anybody, like I could be building
Speaker 1: an artist and go get you a bed, a good
Speaker 1: artist or a placement where they probably favorite artists, just
Speaker 1: off the strips of shit that I didn't done. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying where it's gonna be like easy,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's not what's never my intention. Just
Speaker 1: like certain shit just go hand in hand because your
Speaker 1: face card go along way. Like I built that over
Speaker 1: the course of shit ten twelve years of just doing
Speaker 1: shit out off the love, just me being a solid.
Speaker 1: You know. Take a shot to that. I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: ain't got to tea. We take a shot, so you
Speaker 1: got a tan, yes, soler, because they're like the tim shot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, count ten twelve, who's counting? Who's counting?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a peepees twenty times.
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first, then I go after we
Speaker 1: all go together. You gotta take a piss too.
Speaker 3: Boom good, all right, cool yead, Holy moly, come on,
Speaker 3: this is the first time smoking the blood?
Speaker 1: What was your smoking earlier? Uh? Backwood with a joint
Speaker 1: with the papers around? Where do they do that ship?
Speaker 1: I've been smoking so long, I just like to I
Speaker 1: stually got to hit my chest hard. I'm like the
Speaker 1: feeling them. So what do you smoke on a regular basis?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Like what like some more? Yeah, like what kind of
Speaker 1: But what's your favorite.
Speaker 2: Shit?
Speaker 1: Any any anxiety, any purpose.
Speaker 5: It was gelattoo on a gelato home.
Speaker 1: Bro, you ever smoked our diesel? I used to smoke
Speaker 1: stout diesel like early freshman yeah, high school type shit.
Speaker 1: It smoked Hayes. Yeah, I fuck with the Hayes. I
Speaker 1: used to fuck with Hayes, like when I first started
Speaker 1: coming to New York. That was probably like two thousand
Speaker 1: and hang it with Dominican sixteen. Only smoke Hazes a
Speaker 1: few times though, Like, but I fucked with it though.
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad at that type of ship, Like, but
Speaker 1: I ain't never I wasn't.
Speaker 2: You wasn't man, I fuck with hate.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna whow to fuck with a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was indictment. You ever been indictment? I was in
Speaker 1: youngest younkers? Okay, yes, Jada Kiss shit, he got the
Speaker 1: Hayes there, that's yeah, that's all that, Jady Kiss. We established.
Speaker 3: You trying to work with an artist, But there is
Speaker 3: there any artists that you want to work with that
Speaker 3: you haven't worked with yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some shoot. I ain't gonna live. But if
Speaker 1: I had to really pick, like my ultimate, I always
Speaker 1: be seeing this ship. I don't know why I was
Speaker 1: just like, I really like I want to I want to, like, man,
Speaker 1: this ship sounded crazy. I want to really get in
Speaker 1: the studio and really like do a song like with
Speaker 1: like Lawren. Hell want some.
Speaker 3: Lauren, Yeah, I want some real life with the braves
Speaker 3: of the boy had either either the Lord, either the Lord.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take either version of what I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: Like if.
Speaker 1: I had to pick all the way Lord, dream feature,
Speaker 1: my dream feature though.
Speaker 3: Okay, so God comes down from heaven. Okay, Aliens come
Speaker 3: down from heavens. The Aliens say, I need you to
Speaker 3: make one record for me.
Speaker 1: I need you to pick who's going to be the
Speaker 1: producer and who's gonna do the hook? Who won't be
Speaker 1: the producer, who won't do the hook? Yeah, Aliens and
Speaker 1: God together, I don't know why they get stay together,
Speaker 1: and they say, gee, we gotta save planet Earth. One record,
Speaker 1: one one producer, anybody on the hook'd all live, They're
Speaker 1: coming outside. That was Presley Nigga. That Presley could be
Speaker 1: I want to anybody.
Speaker 3: Jackson one Dad all live, you hit Mike bro I
Speaker 3: gotta go, Prince Jackson, Prince could be the one.
Speaker 2: I gotta go. I gotta go prins on.
Speaker 1: The hook, rints on the hook, and I'm going and
Speaker 1: I'm going yay on the beat. Bro, I gotta take
Speaker 1: a piss coming. You killed that? You win? Bro, going
Speaker 1: like that too hard.
Speaker 6: I don't know what the funk y'all were talking about,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna bring it back to Chicago. So you
Speaker 6: got connected with Common through no Id, Right, So where
Speaker 6: were you guys? Like what was the connection between old
Speaker 6: Chicago hip hop and new Chicago hip hop?
Speaker 1: I think it was like, like what was a respect
Speaker 1: level as well off? And I think I really think
Speaker 1: it was a transition of like Chicago hip hop always
Speaker 1: was on some like.
Speaker 2: In a way it was like can I say something
Speaker 2: real quick before you keep going? And I don't want
Speaker 2: to interrupt.
Speaker 6: I'm interrupting, actually, but I just want to say, like
Speaker 6: I was reading on you, right, and people were saying
Speaker 6: like Drill had a perception of non lyrics, but you
Speaker 6: actually brought lyrics, like you was actually a person that
Speaker 6: was spitting right, And I feel like you was bringing
Speaker 6: the what was happening already with Common and Kanye and
Speaker 6: these guys like he was bringing that level of lyricism
Speaker 6: to your music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's all said for like often to say,
Speaker 1: I think in Chicago, like the transition of like you know,
Speaker 1: niggas like Common, Yay, Twist all them.
Speaker 2: They really raped thrills what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, like in Chicago when the drill scene and the
Speaker 1: whole era came about, it wasn't really like on a
Speaker 1: lyricism type shit. It was like it was me up
Speaker 1: tempo urn music. That's why they felt like drill was
Speaker 1: a whole another genre. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was just like a term of like expression.
Speaker 1: Basically, drill was an expression in the music that we
Speaker 1: It was just a beat, a certain type of beat.
Speaker 2: That's it exactly but exactly.
Speaker 1: So It's like what I'm saying is like what Chicago
Speaker 1: music was before and then was like rap. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, ship like that from the comments, the
Speaker 1: Twisters and Yay's and all that shit. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you feel what I'm saying, so like
Speaker 1: loope you feel me bump right all? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like when that music trans like transcended into
Speaker 1: some whole water shit, I never really did in that
Speaker 1: lane like I always was on some rap shit anyways
Speaker 1: like you feel me, I grew up listening to that
Speaker 1: type of era.
Speaker 2: You did listen to that era? Yeah, heah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I grew up listening to New York rappers too.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, Like I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to all type of genres when it came to hip hop.
Speaker 1: I mean not genres. I'm just saying all types of artists.
Speaker 1: You just love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love hip hop as the best way to
Speaker 2: say probably so Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was saying, like when I came out, I never
Speaker 1: really like labeled myself as a drill artist. Always like
Speaker 1: was on some shit like I'm just a rapper. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying like I could exactly. I was
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, sixteen years old when that shit came out,
Speaker 1: but I was on I was one of the only
Speaker 1: people that actually was rapping on old simple beats, saying
Speaker 1: rapping over shit that kiss made a wrapped over or
Speaker 1: meat was wrapped You know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: really on some shit like my first two three four
Speaker 1: freestyles I put out was over meat beats. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This was twenty ten to twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: and shit like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was like I was always on some shit
Speaker 1: I was trying to rap anyway, Like I was never
Speaker 1: trying to put myself in that box of drill wrap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think
Speaker 1: that's why I was able to like connect with the
Speaker 1: comments and shit like that, like how you saying, Like
Speaker 1: it reached out and like nothing like to go off
Speaker 1: subject all the way.
Speaker 2: My uncle who passed away, his name was kay Tom.
Speaker 1: He already yeah, he already knew them like he already
Speaker 1: like knew Common and uh yay and the legendary tracks
Speaker 1: to they had. They was a group called Trevin Tracks.
Speaker 1: So in Chicago, my uncle was like a legendary producer
Speaker 1: away and that was my blood uncle, you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like I'm in the studio
Speaker 1: around him and already getting that foundation with twisted them around.
Speaker 1: Do it that all these crystial conflict all in My
Speaker 1: uncle was already well respected in the industry in Chicago
Speaker 1: when it came to that type of stuff. Like Mickey Houston,
Speaker 1: who was my first manager, he knew my uncle, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So already like had like
Speaker 1: a love for music when it came to just looking
Speaker 1: up to him and wanted to be like him. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So like when they like I
Speaker 1: feel like when my whole, like when me and Baby
Speaker 1: when we came out. I don't know, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: like over East, so it's just the music we listened to.
Speaker 1: We didn't We was always on some rap shit like
Speaker 1: the whole. We never steered away from hip hop. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. We need to try to, like
Speaker 1: to tear away from bars like lyricism twelve sixteen thirty
Speaker 1: two of US rap rap. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like lyricism, We never like we never shot away from that,
Speaker 1: Like That's what I'm trying to say, Like that's always
Speaker 1: what I was on from the moment.
Speaker 3: I choose to be a rapper, right, Yeah, I know
Speaker 3: wesed on it earlier, right, but I went and looked
Speaker 3: at my Twitter when I went to the bathroom, and
Speaker 3: it's still people think that drill music started in London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why. That's crazy. Why do you
Speaker 1: think that? I think because I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like overseas, like in London. They had such a big wave,
Speaker 1: which just like how they was able to trans wait.
Speaker 6: Through following in London. Let's just start with there. I
Speaker 6: ain't really imagine you have.
Speaker 1: The biggest following tour or then nothing in London yet.
Speaker 1: But I want to go out.
Speaker 6: Haven't gone overseas? No, No, I ain't got I guarantee
Speaker 6: you got a big overseas audience.
Speaker 1: Bro, you gotta go, you gotta go.
Speaker 2: No, I ain't got no overseas. No here bro getting
Speaker 2: the funk out of here. You got a big audience
Speaker 2: outside of here, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I ain't never did nothing as much as
Speaker 1: they appreciate, appreciate much like two weeks with Juice World
Speaker 1: and Ship we had he was on tour with Nicki Minajs.
Speaker 1: I had did Tim Westwood and Ship. That was like,
Speaker 1: you can't yea London. You went to London that was
Speaker 1: like three four years ago. No, I ain't been there since.
Speaker 1: I ain't in no shoes just London. Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to go back Westwood. That's big, that's big. Ten Muths
Speaker 1: was big.
Speaker 3: I played the best hood O t with Tim Westwood.
Speaker 1: Second good bro. Oh yeah but too much? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, that's a legend. That wasn't crazy legend? Bron Sure.
Speaker 1: So what's your favorite place to perform? If I had
Speaker 1: to choose, of course, it'll be Chicago to exclude Chicago.
Speaker 1: If I had to say, my all time favorite place
Speaker 1: to perform be in New York. Yeah, for sure. New
Speaker 1: York fucked with me. Like I had some of my
Speaker 1: best shows in my career in New York, Like one time,
Speaker 1: this is how I knew New York love me. Look
Speaker 1: this is like two thousand and man, it said to
Speaker 1: be twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, I did a show shot.
Speaker 2: Johnny Ships shout out Johnny SPEs Bro.
Speaker 1: It was U.
Speaker 2: I think it was one of those Smokers Club shows.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what a venue was. It was
Speaker 1: like four thousand, five thousand fans that I had lost
Speaker 1: my voice. I couldn't even speak, and I'm sunk. They
Speaker 1: sung the whole ship for like thirty minutes straight. This
Speaker 1: was the beginning of my career. I never seen nothing
Speaker 1: like it. And it's like that that support just transit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: turned off through my career. That shot Town Energy fucked
Speaker 1: us up in New York long for sure. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I never felt no love, like like even like ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie me, I swear to god. We was just
Speaker 1: talking about this sh like the other day, me and
Speaker 1: my girlma brother. Everybody was just saying, uh, the PTSD tour,
Speaker 1: like like that show. It was my very first show,
Speaker 1: Like that was I did the show the day the
Speaker 1: album droped, so the fans didn't even know the music.
Speaker 1: It was just like the energy of them seeing me
Speaker 1: is just like everything, Like that ship was one of
Speaker 1: my hardest shows that I did. You knowee what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we were just talking about that like two days ago.
Speaker 1: What's the worst place you ever performed at? Worst place? Fuck? Heys,
Speaker 1: New Mexico, probably like eight tenth fans and some ship.
Speaker 1: Those fans love you, bro, I know they did what happened?
Speaker 1: I think it was like some ship. Well, like it
Speaker 1: was the the promoter fucked up awesome and do the
Speaker 1: promotion ship right or like the club people you're supposed
Speaker 1: to post, Yeah, no we did. I don't know some ship,
Speaker 1: Like I was just saying, that was like my worst
Speaker 1: show that that ship was like yeah years ago. Well
Speaker 1: I'm just saying with some ship with like I literally
Speaker 1: performed in front of like eight people when I game
Speaker 1: perform for like, I did really perform. That's dope. I
Speaker 1: performed in front of eight people in Dubai. Literally that
Speaker 1: was I'll never forget that ship though it was in
Speaker 1: New Mexico, performed from like eight people. I performed eight people.
Speaker 1: It was their family though in Dubai it was fantastic.
Speaker 1: That was fantastic, and they paid.
Speaker 2: Me, paid you fantastic and mon Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they even made eye contact with me.
Speaker 1: It was just like, what songs did you performed?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Man, leave it at all? Yo. Man, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Man.
Speaker 3: Every time I see you, You're a real one happy
Speaker 3: wow you rapp it man, And I really wanted to
Speaker 3: give you a flowers man, literally, man, because and figuratively,
Speaker 3: because you're actually a legend out here.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You actually did your job. We're proud of you, Statesman
Speaker 3: like me, like Fat Joe and so on and so on.
Speaker 3: We're proud of you, man, and we want you to
Speaker 3: continue to do your motherfucking thing and continue to be great,
Speaker 3: and continue to be family oriented, continue.
Speaker 1: To stay in that gray zone that you said. In
Speaker 1: the gray zone, you know that. Listen the industry got
Speaker 1: your back. So when I was researching you.
Speaker 2: This is a shot.
Speaker 1: Okay, fuck it. I don't know how this popped up.
Speaker 1: That's the only shot. Bro.
Speaker 2: I tak another one.
Speaker 1: We don't like it.
Speaker 3: I want you to know hip hop loves you, man,
Speaker 3: because it actually hurt my heart to hear you say that.
Speaker 3: And you was like, no, I love hip hop and
Speaker 3: hip hop don't love me back. And it's true because
Speaker 3: what you said is accurate. Hip Hop will never love
Speaker 3: us back the way we love hip hop, but hip
Speaker 3: hop loves us.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a grab my flowers man. Bro. Got
Speaker 1: damn god, damn you know that.
Speaker 3: Every time you rock up a beautiful watch like that
Speaker 3: and your ice out chick, that's hip hop, man, that's
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's hip hop. Bro. That shit got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with anything else.
Speaker 3: So we gotta salute hip hop because hip hop salutes you.
Speaker 1: And I really want you to know that, man, like
Speaker 1: like like, I've been doing this since ninety seven. I
Speaker 1: got everybody's number, and I'm a relationship based so I
Speaker 1: call people. I just ask everyone.
Speaker 3: Everyone I call had nothing But I said that earlier,
Speaker 3: but I want to say it again.
Speaker 1: I want you to read iterate what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you. People are not only got love for you,
Speaker 1: they're saying that they got love for you, and they
Speaker 1: rooting for you. So I don't know if those pom
Speaker 1: poems are out in public or shit private, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they're rooting for you, period means a fucking lot.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I call people were like the call. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing. Everybody's like, what do you need? That's something.
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, I actually don't need. Ship.
Speaker 3: Oh, they already described your character. People describe the character
Speaker 3: of you without you even being.
Speaker 1: That's that's dope, dope, appreciate it. You under saying what
Speaker 1: you said, ship.
Speaker 2: And I love it. Yeah, I feel good, but I
Speaker 2: don't love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: We don't love it, but gotta you gotta gotta love it.
Speaker 1: You gotta love it everything the big Okay, I'm in
Speaker 1: it like this.
Speaker 3: There's a lesson than a five percent degrees says love
Speaker 3: hell alright, which means sometimes you gotta love hell in
Speaker 3: order to come out right, which means sometimes you can't
Speaker 3: even go to heaven.
Speaker 1: As you go to hell first, less you've been to hell. First,
Speaker 1: I like it, Bro, Welcome that happened. See her? We
Speaker 1: got them new teeth man, new teeth? Bro, Yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah dress come on, ye dressed the new teeth because
Speaker 1: you a good picture. Let me show, let me show
Speaker 1: the like.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that shus been going viral.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take a BIG's like a big thing. I
Speaker 1: guess I ain't gonna lie. I know I ain't gonna say.
Speaker 1: I guess I said I ain't never getting my teeth done. Bro,
Speaker 1: I said I never get my teeth domb. Bro, you
Speaker 1: outside this ship? Do look look this ship? Do look
Speaker 1: crazy fire you outside? You changed? I got all teeth done,
Speaker 1: like all twenty four man, I got a ship did
Speaker 1: I said?
Speaker 2: I never get my teeth done?
Speaker 1: Man? When I got my ship done? Why would you?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I? Man? Would you? Why weren't I gonna
Speaker 1: turn that money like elevation, get money, get money?
Speaker 2: Feel like yeah, man, take.
Speaker 1: It the shot. I'm sorry, she where she goes, Let's
Speaker 1: take it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, come on, let's do it and dre just
Speaker 3: another shot.
Speaker 2: Shot Bro, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm happy you came here today, happy you showed up.
Speaker 3: I'm happy you arrived. I did lose the bat did
Speaker 3: tell you that, right, Yeah, it's gonna be on time.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna allowed to post a been on time, bro.
Speaker 1: I posted been on Then they told me they blame
Speaker 1: your girl. I was like, there's a good excuse.
Speaker 2: I'm taking my shot.
Speaker 1: I blame my girl. They said they blame you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe it's your team. They said
Speaker 1: they blame your girl.
Speaker 8: I said to my wife all the time, I threw
Speaker 8: her under the bus, and then they threw me under
Speaker 8: the bus by saying that, say that your wife.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot. Hey man, gee her bro, me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. You're a legend. No take your shot, bro,
Speaker 1: what you're doing, she should your legend.
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Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Take it down.
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