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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for a day? Edith Steak is that woof?

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Speaker 1: Woof? And Dan and Tie welcome back to the Sali verbal,

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls. My name is Ti Hildebrand, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always over there in Chicago, Illinois. Dan rubistein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: Chicago, lamb suburbs. I'm not going to take any sort

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Speaker 1: I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing long dance right now because I got done

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Speaker 2: shoveling a little bit ago, and I never like wearing

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Speaker 2: long dance. But here we are. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna focus Tie on warmth, warmth of spirit's right,

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Speaker 2: warmth of emotion, yeah, and warmth of relationship. That's not English,

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Speaker 2: But I want to focus on the positivity. We tried

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Speaker 2: to use that audio Coco on our Permafrost show. Today.

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Speaker 2: We are thematic and we are talking about love and

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Speaker 2: the many forms it may take as it relates to

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Speaker 2: college football. And you know what, maybe you're feeling saucy,

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Speaker 2: maybe you're feeling loose, and you're going to tell me

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Speaker 2: about your own life and your own views on life,

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Speaker 2: or everybody's expecting you to really be Lucy goosey about

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Speaker 2: your your life. So I am very excited to talk

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Speaker 2: about it. You formulated this show. I'm probably going to

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Speaker 2: run into a different direction with it, as per usual,

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Speaker 2: But I'm excited to do a Valentine's show because.

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Speaker 1: If not now, when, if not now when? Yeah, we've

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Speaker 1: been living in the doldrums of college football, of life

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Speaker 1: in general over the last year or so, think about

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Speaker 1: where we've come from. Who knows what we're walking into

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Speaker 1: in this new year. We need some positivity, we need

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Speaker 1: we need to share that love, Dan, So Valentine's Day

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Speaker 1: is upon us. This is the last show at least

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Speaker 1: that we're doing before V Day, and we decided to

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Speaker 1: take a look back at twenty twenty, to take a

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Speaker 1: look ahead at twenty twenty one and beyond really and

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Speaker 1: just find the things that we want to give our

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Speaker 1: Valentines two. This could be players, coaches, entities, ideas, concepts,

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Speaker 1: you name it. Anything is within the scope of this

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Speaker 1: very show. I thought of this idea thinking back to

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Speaker 1: my early days as a ute Dan.

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Speaker 2: As a ute.

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Speaker 1: Early days, what did you guys do back in the heyday,

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Speaker 1: back in what is it Calabasas school district?

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Speaker 2: Nor in a school district? Yeah, what did.

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Speaker 1: You guys do over there with respect to Valentine's Day

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Speaker 1: in like elementary school anything?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, you passed out Valentine's You have like

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Speaker 2: a Michael Jordan Valentine that I'm sure was unlicensed or

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Speaker 2: something like that. Tiny tuns you get Valentine's, You fill

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Speaker 2: it out with your classmates' names on them. You pass

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Speaker 2: them around and maybe you put a little extra elbow

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Speaker 2: grease into a Valentine that you really want to, uh,

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Speaker 2: to impress somebody. Extra sauce, Yeah, little extra sauce. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't Calabasas High. But I didn't go to elementary school

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Speaker 2: around Calabasas. I went to what's now a basketball superpower

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Speaker 2: and see our canyon. But I uh, I always look

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Speaker 2: forward to it. I like like a creative Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: Sure, well, let me tell you back at the good

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Speaker 1: old days of Wolf Elementary Dan mm hmm, we would

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Speaker 1: tape a brown paper bag.

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, like the Simpsons I think did with I

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Speaker 2: Chew Choo choose you.

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Speaker 1: To the front or to the side of your desk

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Speaker 1: and you just sort of walk around, and it really

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Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of emotion involved. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of fun not to drop Valentine's and everyone's candy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone's bag got a Valentine some of those tiny candy hearts.

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Speaker 2: So do you like those?

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Speaker 1: The powdery Oh yeah? Oh, pump those directly into my veins. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I like the chocolates, but I thought, why don't we

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Speaker 1: do the same thing with college football. Why don't we just,

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Speaker 1: you know, metaphorically, here, let's walk around the classroom and

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Speaker 1: let's drop our Valentines in the bags of those college

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Speaker 1: football things that we feel particular I don't know, adulation

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Speaker 1: towards Dan. This sounds like a good idea to you.

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Speaker 1: You okay with this, It's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: As I'm fixing, oh gosh, what is this called a

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Speaker 2: pop filter? This rustling? You're hearing fixing my pop filter?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it sounds fantastic. I have a list of loves.

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Speaker 2: You were very explicit, you said leather discipline. You sold

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Speaker 2: me to come up with something with feet. I don't

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Speaker 1: No. No, we did have sound, so I told you

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Speaker 1: to come up with sounds. As per usual, you picked

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Speaker 1: because I feel like we used this many times over.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget, I'm also just a girl in front of

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Speaker 1: a boy asking him to love.

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Speaker 2: We're all just a girl in the world, Dan, that's true,

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Speaker 2: a girl in the college football world. That was my

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Speaker 2: first date, notting Hill absolute first date of my life.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so that would have been nineteen ninety nine. I

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Speaker 2: what do you what college football thinks? Are you ask

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Speaker 2: I'm stretching this far too broadly. Tell me something you

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Speaker 2: loved about twenty twenty, or maybe going back to twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: eighteen seventeen, whatever. Tell me something you love that you

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Speaker 1: Three words about the twenty twenty college football season. Cardboard

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Speaker 1: cutout fans, Dan, Okay, as far as I can think back,

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Speaker 1: we all are, this was one of the great rackets

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Speaker 2: I mean there have been a number of subsequent retirement

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Speaker 1: When every school gave him an expensive gift to bid

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Speaker 2: This, Okay, why do you love cardboard cutouts?

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Speaker 1: Many schools out there would let you pay to have

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Speaker 1: in the future. I think there's a lot of upward

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Speaker 1: mobility here for creativity. Dan. And on the other side

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Speaker 2: Okay. So you're saying cardboard fans in place of like

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Speaker 2: the Oakland A's Memorial Stadium tarp.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of creativity to be explored here, and

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see this continue on into the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some schools did a good job pulling it off.

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Speaker 2: Texas ted the McConaughey section, I believe, right, So there

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Speaker 1: It's an issue that is an issue.

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Speaker 2: Situation of cardboard cutouts. But yeah, I like them plenty

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a creative solution. It did give

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. It comes every year, whether you like.

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Speaker 1: It or not. Everybody's gonna love today.

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Speaker 2: I choose them, trying to choose. And maybe this is

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Speaker 2: something that falls under the the resolutions. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but in paying attention to college football, it's very easy

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Speaker 2: Alabama and Ohio State and Clemson whatever. I am choosing

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Speaker 2: to pay attention to the lesser cuts of college football,

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Speaker 2: your flat iron steaks, your Denver cuts, your chuck steaks, tie.

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Speaker 2: especially in the wake of bowl season. Is Dustin Crumb

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Speaker 2: a pretty big name. Well, I'm hoping so. Dustin Crumb

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Speaker 2: fifty points a game something like that this year, and

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Speaker 2: four hundred yards on the ground to Jared Patterson?

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Speaker 1: Perhaps?

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Speaker 2: Yes, perhaps, But all the same, Dustin Crumb was the

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Speaker 2: triggerman for a very fun ken State offense. I'm hoping

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Speaker 2: scare the Aggies into an entertaining game, So that's something

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Speaker 2: On hold on, Jake From was great.

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Speaker 1: He was fine.

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Speaker 2: Words have meaning.

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Speaker 1: He was fine. I said he was great, great, great

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Speaker 1: He was great. With a qualifier, Daniel, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Do you have the sound that heavy metal riff that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you give me, like if you can kill

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Speaker 1: The only one that I think I have is back

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Speaker 2: BI give me Big ten. Mississippi State, South Carolina, Missouri

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Speaker 1: Daniels flight Listen, listen. I'm just saying, Okay, Daniels, that's what.

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Speaker 2: Daniels, No, whatever, five stars just committed for the twenty

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Speaker 1: We didn't see him until like the end of the

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Speaker 1: He didn't see the full potential of George Pickens till

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Speaker 2: That's true. No, I just I need more JTD that

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Speaker 1: Where are we going next? Give me? Give me another

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to go with Ohio State defensive mortality.

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Speaker 2: I don't want everybody in the Big Ten going seven

435
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: and five. I'm great with Ohio State winning the conference

436
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: nearly every year. But there is something nice about Michael

437
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: Pennix and Whip Fire and Fry Fogel whoever demolishing this

438
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: Ohio State secondary the way that they did that. It

439
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: made for good TV. That was a one score game

440
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: that the Big Ten championship game went into the third

441
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: almost fourth quarter as a game because of how well

442
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: Northwestern's defense was playing against Ohio State. I like that

443
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: element because there is so much down about the Big

444
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: Ten in terms of Minnesota taking a step back, Michigan

445
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: taking a step back, Nebraska not really coming into where

446
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Scott Frost had people imagining Nebraska would get to, Penn

447
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: State taking a big step back on offense, Michigan State

448
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: starting all over again. It's easy to see why Ohio

449
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: State would win every game fifty six to thirteen, and

450
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: that they didn't this year. I hope carries on. I

451
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: don't care who wins these games again. I'm okay with

452
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State winning this conference most years. I just want

453
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: competitive games, and that's what we got with, you know,

454
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Michael Pennox bombing down the field and Northwestern playing well

455
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: for a long time in that game. So I hope

456
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: to see more of that. I hope to see more

457
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: of that and not just have fifty six five stars

458
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: in Columbus have their way with the rest of that conference.

459
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: So that's something I did love, and I hope to

460
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: see more in the way of competitive games in that conference.

461
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: As a bolt on, because you mentioned Indiana, could you

462
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: give a bolt on?

463
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we talk about the Indiana Hoosiers for a second? Sure,

464
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: What a real joy it was to watch them this year,

465
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Speaker 1: to see them, to see them do as well as

466
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: they did goofy down year for a lot of teams,

467
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: obviously the Big Ten East was it was not the

468
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: version of the Big Ten East we've come to know

469
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: and love.

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00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

471
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Speaker 1: But the way that Indiana stepped up. It sucks that

472
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: Pennis got hurt, but at the same time, the way

473
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 1: that TA fought the entire duration of the season was

474
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: a real joy. And I gotta be honest with you.

475
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Week one, I think if I recall, well, I don't

476
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: recall actually if I pick Penn State or Indiana. But

477
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: I seem to remember saying to you that don't sleep

478
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: on this Indiana team is a good Indiana team, and

479
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna fight, They're gonna play hard even if they lose.

480
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: They won that game. Maybe they shouldn't have. We had

481
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: that controversial call towards the end. But nonetheless, what Indiana

482
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: did this year, I am really hoping that Tom Allen

483
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: can continue to build on that because he has been

484
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: building and that would be a nice story for college

485
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: football in the Big Ten now like the Big Ten

486
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: East needs any more contenders, but Indiana's improbable rise at

487
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: a time when the rest of that side of the

488
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: conference was down is something that I would love to

489
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: see pay dividends for them in the recruiting game.

490
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Speaker 2: Sure, I think Tom Allen resonates with people, and he's

491
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: hired well, obviously losing his off defensive coordinator last year

492
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: to a head coaching job at Fresno State, and certainly

493
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: with his defensive background, we expect this defense to keep developing.

494
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: But No one of the absolute most fun teams and

495
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: stories to watch in twenty twenty.

496
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: And it just feels like he's been building it the

497
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: right way. Sure, it feels like it's been a slow burn,

498
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to well, one of the other teams that

499
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: I'll bring up here in a moment or two, which

500
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: sort of came out of nowhere, a fun story in

501
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: and of itself. But Indiana, it's been a slow burn

502
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: to get to where they are now. And I don't know,

503
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I just I had a lot of fun watching them.

504
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: I hope it continues, Okay.

505
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: I think that's a good answer. Good answer, good answer.

506
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: It comes every year with Coastal Carolina. Let's talk about

507
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina.

508
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina. I have something.

509
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: I have a bolt on for Coastal Carolina for you.

510
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina, and it's improbable. Run to an eleven and

511
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: zero regular season. They lose until the Cure Bowl, which

512
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: is a good against Liberty only been an FBS program

513
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen. WOW was their fourth year of being

514
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: an FBS program. First year went three and nine, next

515
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: two seasons went five and seven. This year eleven and one.

516
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Led by coach Jamie Chadwell, led by their freshman signal

517
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: caller Grayson McCall, who was excellent, just excellent. Twenty six touchdowns,

518
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: only three interceptions, thirty three touchdowns in all. If you

519
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: count in the seven rushing touchdowns, he had had something

520
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: like five hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground.

521
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: So really a dual threat kid played really, really well.

522
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: I know on some of the NCAA fourteen streams that

523
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I've done, Grayson McCall i would contend had better stats

524
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: according to whoever put this roster together than like Trevor

525
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Justin Fields, and like somebody thought very highly

526
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: of him even before he was more of a known

527
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: quantity on the national level.

528
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Such a competitive internship, such a competitive internship.

529
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina doing what it did this season was one

530
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: of those rare shreds of optimism and an otherwise goofy

531
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: year that frankly, we know this from our download numbers.

532
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: A lot of folks were ambivalent about college football this year,

533
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: but Coastal Carolina was one of those stories that, regardless

534
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: of where you fell on that spectrum of should they

535
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: play or should they not play, Coastal Carolina was a

536
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: fun story. Fun story. Learning that their name was the

537
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Chanticleers was a new one for a lot of college

538
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: football fans. We heard from them. Yeah, and having them

539
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: be even ever so vaguely in the college football playoff

540
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: discussion was I thought a ton of fun BYU in

541
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: that game that I like to talk about coming together

542
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: only sixty hours before they kicked it off. Maybe the

543
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: best game all season. I don't know where it goes

544
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: from here for Coastal, I'd like to think that it

545
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: stays at this level. My intuition tells me probably not.

546
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: That this might have been a once in a generation

547
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: type thing. But they still do have Grayson McCall and

548
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: they still do have their excitable coach, Jamie Chadwell. So

549
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: here's hoping that it stays at this double digit win

550
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: level here too. Four But we shall see.

551
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: And they were more. They were more than a cherf

552
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: cute story. They were fun to watch. That offense with

553
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: all of its heavy option influence and elements, was crazy

554
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: fun to watch. You know, you talk about the BYU game.

555
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: My bolt on for Coastal is the return of themed

556
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: T shirts. Oh, having the mullets versus the Mormons. Yeah, man,

557
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: good car cooning back to the Catholics versus criminals, Criminals

558
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: versus Catholics, Catholics the verse criminals notre Dame Miami.

559
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: So versus convicts.

560
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, or excuse me, did I say criminals convicts?

561
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Yes?

562
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: I am all in favor of not only quick turnaround scheduling,

563
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: which is fine. I mean, non conference games don't do

564
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: nearly as much for me as heated rivalries in conference,

565
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: so it's fine. The quick scheduling, it's cool. It was nice,

566
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: especially in a weird year when you have a hole

567
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: on your schedule, to pursue that kind of glory. Don't

568
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: think too much about what I say. I can appreciate

569
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: the fun of turning around those T shirts and then

570
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: getting that excitability in Conway, South Carolina.

571
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: There is so much here that we can unpack with

572
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: coastal Sure, of course, there's just the general story going

573
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: eleven to oh regular season, eleven to one overall after

574
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: the loss in the bowl game. The theme T shirts

575
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: is another angle, the sweet field, the teal field.

576
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

577
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be a trend

578
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: moving forward, but it was fun to just come to

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: know about that stadium Conway, South Carolina. Yeah, you mentioned

580
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: the offense. I'm glad you brought that up, because for

581
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: those who haven't seen, if you took the year off

582
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: and didn't see Coastal's offense. I would describe it as

583
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: a great combination of every cool trend in college football

584
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: offense right now. It's got a little bit of everything right. Definitely,

585
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: that is fun as hell. Funny.

586
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially with the threat of that option option

587
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: option for Grayson Call to drop back and hit dudes

588
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: in stride. It was just it was a ridiculous option,

589
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: ridiculous offense. Excuse me to watch. Had a great time,

590
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: and they played, they played some. This wasn't a team

591
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: that beat up on nobody's either. They were beating and

592
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: they beat up State, they beat Louisiana like, this is

593
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: a team that, you know, for lack of a better term,

594
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: they paid their dues. I loved it.

595
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, there is that scheduling helpment,

596
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: the sixty hours before kickoff thing, which, look, I don't

597
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a trend. That was an

598
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: extreme example in an extreme season, but it does call

599
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: into question this practice of scheduling teams like eight years out,

600
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: can we do better, can we get closer to a

601
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: flex scheduling situation? I don't know. I'd love to see

602
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: it. It was one of the things in the build up

603
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty season that I was quasi excited

604
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: about that we might have more potential for stuff like

605
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: this and buying large to conferences. Pooh pooed that idea,

606
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: but it did work out for Coastal and the Sunbelt

607
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: and BYU as an independent to pull it together at

608
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: a moment's notice. So I don't know, we'll see if

609
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: there are any longer lasting ramifications of that one, but

610
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: all around a fun story following Coastal in twenty twenty.

611
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: I love and this is an annual thing, and I

612
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: guess it can be placed onto a specific story this

613
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: off season and upcoming season. I love the imagination of

614
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: what's he going to be able to do this new

615
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: coaching hire with this guy, with this team with it

616
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: like what we saw, like oh Kevin someone with Khalil Tait,

617
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what Kirk Shiraka with John Dotson, Like

618
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are having.

619
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: That conversation you got to give.

620
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: I had to get it in. I had to get

621
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: it in.

622
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: TI.

623
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is that element of the tantalizing possibilities. What's

624
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly going to be able to do in Ucla.

625
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: Actually that's another love of mine. I don't need to

626
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: get too far into it, but a competitive Chip Kelly offense.

627
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Demitric Felton was fantastic. Dtr was good. Greg Dulsich was

628
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: a nice story coming up. He was unstoppable for a

629
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: number of weeks at tight end. But there is that

630
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: that tantalizing potential and ceiling. And this year it's what

631
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: can Texas be running that Alabama Sark offense?

632
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Can he mold the quarterback?

633
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Do they have a DeVante Smith on that rock? And

634
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: I say all of those things, and it sounds like

635
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm being tongue in cheek, but I really want Texas

636
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: to be fun. I opted out of Texas last year.

637
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: I couldn't take another slow developing crossing route thrown behind

638
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: a receiver by Sam Ellinger. I just I couldn't watch

639
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: it anymore. And isn't that what? Who is one that

640
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: kissed Wendy Peppercorn in the sam? I was it smalls? Yes,

641
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: I can't take it anymore, So I felt I am hopeful.

642
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm optimistic. I want to be excited about Texas games

643
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: week in and week out, not because they're more talented,

644
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: not because they have more money. Not because oh, the

645
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: Red River shootout is always fun and weird. No, I

646
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: want to see sixty three to fifteen scores in the

647
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Big Twelve because I want to get excited about huge

648
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Big Twelve games involving Texas when I know they're just

649
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: going to play to their level of competition with Tom

650
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Herman up and down and that's going to be that.

651
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: And I want something new. I want novelty. And I'm

652
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: hopeful that given how Sark recruits and develops talent, and

653
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: I know it's always tricky when the head coach is

654
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: calling plays and also running an offense, the track record

655
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: is not always amazing. But I am hopeful that we

656
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: have entered into a new level of entertainment of Texas football.

657
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: I want that tantalization to be real.

658
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I was tagged in a couple tweets

659
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Speaker 1: from our friend over at the Athletic in Fox Sports,

660
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Bruce Felman. He didn't tag me, but others read the

661
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: tweet and tagged me because he wrote an anonymous report,

662
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: anonymous in that he talked to some coaches about.

663
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: Former Texas coaches.

664
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, coaches that are evaluating now what the

665
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: situation looks like for Steve Sarkisian at Texas. And there

666
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: was a line from just anonymously named coach two who

667
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: gushed about Hudson card uh, you know, quarterback prospect for Texas. Quote,

668
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: Hudson has a chance to be special. He's ridiculously good.

669
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: He can really spin it dan mm hmm, can really

670
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: spin it, makes good decisions, has a lot of it factor,

671
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: but really being able to spin it is the operative

672
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: phrase there. And I think I'm with you. I'm it's

673
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: always like weird combinations of coaches with personnel, and.

674
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: We see it at all Kiff and at Ole Miss.

675
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what can he do with with that? Like

676
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: recruiting situation, right, it spans the full gamut of players

677
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: of situations.

678
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: It's just scheme, narrative.

679
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot there, and I think the imagination

680
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: takes hold, especially in the early goings of a new

681
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: regime when we obviously don't have much to go on

682
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: and just kind of going off previous experience. So I'm

683
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: with you, and I am excited to see sark at Texas.

684
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm excited about another year of the Texas's back joke

685
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: we have.

686
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Speaker 2: I don't know if we did this on fantasy things

687
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: or this was just a proposed fantasy thing something where

688
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I always like when an announcer makes a reference to

689
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: this guy only got two offers and he almost ended

690
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: up playing at and then unintentionally insulting you know, Delta State.

691
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: Now he almost ended up playing at cal Poly San

692
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: Luis Obispo. This was a banner year in retrospect for Wow,

693
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: he almost had to go to play at Boise State. YEA,

694
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: both Brock Party and now I'm Zach Wilson. Excuse me,

695
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: almost had to play at Boise which is a good

696
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: school and has had a ton of success and is

697
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: a great place to end up. But those two stories

698
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: where we're both pretty incredible Brock Party and Iowa State

699
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: breaking through culminating in that Oregon win. So I hope

700
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: to see more of fun Clones football and Zach Wilson

701
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: absolutely demolishing teams and you know, obviously making his way

702
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: to the NFL. So I like that crossover element of

703
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: those two guys that anytime a quarterback has to bet

704
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: on himself and hold off on making a decision and

705
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: hope for that last second offer to come in, I

706
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: think that was the case with Kirk Cousins almost ending

707
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: up at a max school and then got a late

708
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: Michigan State offer. I like those stories. I like those

709
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: stories of guys just holding out and saying, you know,

710
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for a better situation on myself.

711
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: I like that.

712
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, Zach Wilson, I saw in the

714
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: latest PFF mock draft going number two overall behind Trelo Lawrence. Wow,

715
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: seems hot. Okay, what else you got, Dan? Hold on?

716
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: Let me play this, play this sound sort of play

717
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: a little longer than usual before we hit the fade out,

718
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: but give it.

719
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Speaker 2: By the way, do you know anything about LaBouche, just

720
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: in terms of their a duo that was assembled by

721
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: a German DJ. I was like, Man, LaBouche has a

722
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: bunch hits. They're really fun. I'm gonna go on Wikipedia.

723
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: And then I found out it's super tragic. It's all

724
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: really tragic, and I felt terrible and there so it's

725
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: like a DJ and a singer and the singer passed

726
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: away in a tragic plane accident in two thousand and one.

727
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: I had no idea, and he did. To better educate

728
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: myself in terms of turn of the century pop music.

729
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be an upbeat show day.

730
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, sorry sorry. I love La Bouche all the same,

731
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: but shout out Melanie Thorton all the same. North Carolina

732
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: running the ball was a true love of mine because, oh,

733
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: we had heard so much about Sam Howell, Sam Howel,

734
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: Sam Howell and Phil Longo running this air raid and

735
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: coming over from we had Sam Houston State and Ole

736
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: Miss and he was bringing this especially after what the

737
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen season looked like, and throwing the ball a ton,

738
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: and there were moments that they ran the ball well,

739
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: but having I mean, I like to call them Michael

740
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Carter Williams, but Michael Carter and Travonte Williams just explode

741
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: onto the national scene in terms of I don't know

742
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: if it team maybe outside of Alabama throwing the ball

743
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: did any one thing better than North Carolina and running

744
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: the ball as consistently and as powerfully as they did.

745
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: That's something I'm extremely hoped for, because hopeful for because

746
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: how many teams can claim that sort of dominant balance

747
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: at their best. Not many, absolutely, not many. So that

748
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: was a really nice breakthrough for me, and I hope

749
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: to see more of it moving forward.

750
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Speaker 1: They were incredible on the ground. Yeah, don't sell them short.

751
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: We talk about Alabama and the potency of its.

752
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: Once for sure.

753
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even they didn't rush for as many yards as

754
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina had more touchdowns, but it goes Alabama thirty

755
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, Army thirty six touchdowns obviously right behind them

756
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: North Carolina with thirty five twenty eight hundred yards as

757
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: a team, four hundred and ninety two rushing attempts averaged

758
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five yards per game.

759
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exception well, an exceptional, exceptional breakthrough from North Carolina

760
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: who ran the ball fine a couple of years ago.

761
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: But look, it was a very odd year in the

762
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: ACC especially there were some down defenses. That's what dominant

763
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: attacks should do.

764
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: I loved it, Michael Carter Javonte Williams combining for twenty

765
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns between them, and not to the twenty below.

766
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: What is that? Twenty four hundred yards? Almost so not

767
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: a bad effort?

768
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: Did you love? Do you love? And I don't say

769
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: this tongue in cheek. I don't say this with any

770
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: sort of malice. You'll have to believe me, but I

771
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: promise you that's true. Do you look back fondly on

772
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: the memory of Notre Dame beating Clemson?

773
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: Yes?

774
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: Is that something you love to this day, Not that

775
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: it means something important, but is that something you still cherish?

776
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Well. The reason I didn't put that game down on

777
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: my list is I figured it'd be too cliche anyone.

778
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean, this is your name is on the show.

779
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: Forty seven to forty in overtime. That was a big

780
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: win for them. Now. I know it didn't go well

781
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: in the a SEC Championship game. I know it didn't

782
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: go well in the playoff against Alabama, but that was

783
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: a momentous win for Brian Kelly, even if it didn't

784
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: have much staying power, even if it was against dj

785
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: uliangol Lay instead of Trevor Lawrence. To get the monkey

786
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: off his back was a big deal. Yeah, And as

787
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans, we had been waiting for a game

788
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: like that for quite some time. And again, not to

789
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: say a little bit of that wasn't soured with the

790
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: way things ended, for sure, but just to have that

791
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: in the photo book as something that happened, I think

792
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: is meaningful.

793
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: I always just like I like breakthroughs, right, isn't. That's

794
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: still a good example of a breakthrough or just reversing course,

795
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: not necessarily in a rivalry game, but a big matchup.

796
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: Florida beating Georgia the way that they did, and I

797
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: know it was Georgia with stetson, and you know it

798
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: was perhaps closer than the score indicates. But I like breakthroughs.

799
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I like when a team, you know, Kentucky Tennessee, where

800
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: we have this long history or recent history of a

801
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: team owning a matchup, and I love that Kansas State

802
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: owning Oklahoma continues. I like those. I like when it

803
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: doesn't break through. Oklahoma still looking for that that Wildcat breakthrough.

804
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: But those are the things I enjoy about the sport.

805
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: Where as soon as a fan base feels ownership over

806
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: another and to have that flipped, I think is great.

807
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: I think that is that is something that is something

808
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: I'll always look forward to within the sport. So there

809
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: are a number of examples of that over the course

810
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: of the season. But that's that's just something that's my

811
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: college football kink. So I still even though I raised,

812
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: I huffed, and I puffed, and I said that that

813
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: game means nothing in terms of notre Dame's playoff resume

814
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: going into the selection show. You still have to cherish

815
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: those moments in a vacuum. It's great, And.

816
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: You know what, it's a competitive landscape on the recruiting side.

817
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: Even if they lost badly at the close of the

818
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: year to both Clemson and Alabama, you can still recruit

819
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: on forty seven, still recruit on that and you can

820
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: still say we beat Clemson.

821
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even saying we beat Clemson. It's saying

822
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: here is the way we beat Clemson. It's we tested

823
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 2: Clemson deep late in this game, and you can see

824
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: what happens when we have that element of our offense cooking. Now,

825
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: you five star receiver can be that answer for us exactly.

826
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: And so who was it? Avery Williams? Is that his name?

827
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: I forget the red Davis? Avery Davis? Excuse me? Who

828
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: caught one of the huge catches in that game to

829
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: help seal that win. That's the element of this is

830
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: what we can be with you. This is what you

831
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: can do to shine for Notre Dame or whatever the

832
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: situation is recruiting wise, but you need to have that

833
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: proof of concept and Notre Dame, even though things ended

834
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: poor in the a SEC Championship game. The game counts

835
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: that that Notre Dame Clemson game is in the record books.

836
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Speaker 1: Trivia questioning because I know you're into such things. Wink wink, nudge, nudge.

837
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Future.

838
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: Here are Notre Dame's regular season opponents. I'm not going

839
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: to count the a SEC Championship Duke South Florida, Florida State, Louisville, Pitt,

840
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Clemson, the aforementioned Clemson game, Boston College, North Carolina,

841
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: and Syracuse. Of those games, Dan. Of those ten games

842
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: that I listed, which one was played in front of

843
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: exactly zero paying fans? BC?

844
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: Right?

845
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: That is correct?

846
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boston College didn't have fans this here. I remember

847
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: that specifically. I remember shots of that stadium. They had

848
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: the cutouts, if we want to bring that full circle.

849
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, BC did not have fans this here, excellent,

850
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: excellent or fans in the stadium. Excuse me, no problem.

851
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: Do you have any others? No, I have a question

852
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: for you to round out the show. I just because

853
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: we're talking about things we love, and we're talking about

854
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day and love and passion and all the sorts

855
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: of those things. Will you just give me a relatively

856
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: deep dive into your first time, sorry, your first time

857
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: attending of college football game or a big college football game.

858
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: Something formative, formative. I want you to Yeah, were you nervous?

859
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I was at?

860
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: Did you wear the right thing?

861
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so I was at. I was prepared. Yeah, but well,

862
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: one of my first college.

863
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Football games that I can remember, we're pushing forty and

864
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: this is what we did with our time. Yeah.

865
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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty nine, my mom took me to the

866
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami game in Miami. So this is at

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Speaker 1: the old Orange Bowl Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Did you have family down there? Why did you go

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Speaker 2: on the road just because it was a huge game.

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Speaker 1: It was a huge game, and she did it as

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Speaker 1: a birthday present to me. Nice. It was like a

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Speaker 1: big deal and it was. It ended up being a

873
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Speaker 1: huge debacle because like the travel agency when they were

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Speaker 1: still a thing, travel agencies at the time, she like

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Speaker 1: gave her card to these guys over the phone and

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00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: they stole her credit card. It was like a whole

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Speaker 1: like bordering on identity theft type of situation. But this

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Speaker 1: was we found out about it after we got to Miami.

879
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Speaker 1: And went to this game and Notre Dame lost the game.

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Speaker 1: The only touchdown they scored, I think was a defensive

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Speaker 1: touchdown from ned bowlkar if you remember that. But I

882
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Speaker 1: had a cool opportunity at the time to walk around

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Speaker 1: with a T shirt and get it signed by the

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Speaker 1: entire Notre Dame squad. So at some point, at some point,

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Speaker 1: but when I'm able to build like a full fledged studio,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring over the thing that the shirt

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Speaker 1: that I still have framed at my mom's house with

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Speaker 1: all the signatures from that nineteen eighty nine Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: football team.

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Speaker 2: Wow, dropping a ned bowlcar.

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Speaker 1: That's ned bolcar. We also thought at the time that

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Speaker 1: we were getting I forget who my mom thought the

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Speaker 1: player was. It might have been like Alan Pinkett. We

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Speaker 1: thought we were getting Alan Pinkett's autograph, and instead it

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Speaker 1: was remember Todd Light, former defensive back. It was Todd

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Speaker 1: Light's dad who signed my shirt at the time. It's wonderful,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Rick Meyer, Rocket Ishmael, Chris Zorich, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of names of the past for Notre Dame. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have that back at home, and at some point I

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Speaker 1: want to bring it over here, but just a great

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Speaker 1: memory to be down there for that game.

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Speaker 2: I don't I couldn't tell you exactly, and maybe this

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Speaker 2: wasn't your first time either, your first game. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to remember if I had gone to an SC game

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Speaker 2: or a UCLA game going up in southern California when

906
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Speaker 2: I was really young. I remember what we went to.

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Speaker 2: I went to old La Rams games when they played

908
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Speaker 2: at the Big A and Anna, oh, yeah, I went

909
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Speaker 2: to Dodger games all the time. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I went to a game. The first game I

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Speaker 2: can remember was when I was fourteen or fifteen, going

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Speaker 2: to the it was the nineteen ninety nine season, so

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Speaker 2: it'd been the two thousand Rose Bowl, and that was

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Speaker 2: Stanford Wisconsin. That's a Ron Dame Brooks Bollinger Wisconsin team,

915
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Speaker 2: Barry Alvarez coaching. On the other side, it's Ty Willingham, who,

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Speaker 2: fresh off of beating Notre Dame, gets hired by Notre

917
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Speaker 2: Dame a year later two thousand and one. But that

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Speaker 2: game was such a dud to me that it didn't

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Speaker 2: really kickst art anything for me college football. I always

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Speaker 2: liked watching college football, but attending that game there wasn't an.

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Speaker 2: It just there wasn't a lot of juice to it,

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Speaker 2: and it took going to Oregon a couple of years later.

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Speaker 2: You know, my first game at Oregon was Oregon USC

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, and it was the fun

925
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Speaker 2: of you know, my friends at USC watching the Trojans,

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Speaker 2: and then Oregon had that magical season in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one. But I remember going to that game, sitting

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Speaker 2: in the end zone. And the reason why it's particularly

929
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Speaker 2: funny and weird to me now is I went with

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Speaker 2: my friend Monty. Not a lot of Monty's out there, Yeah, sure,

931
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Speaker 2: And now I'm a dumb college football podcaster and my

932
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Speaker 2: friend Monty is the GM of the Sacramento kids. But

933
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Speaker 2: I remember going with Monty and his dad Kevin. Great great,

934
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Speaker 2: great people and just funny to think about the different

935
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Speaker 2: paths our lives have taken since that game. But that

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Speaker 2: was it was like a nineteen ten, nineteen nine, seventeen nine,

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Speaker 2: something like that. Not a fun game.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they say your first time is not always your

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Speaker 2: best time, and for me kind of true.

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Speaker 1: I also went maybe the earliest Notre Dame game.

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Speaker 2: It might have been Troy Walters as well. Might have

943
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Speaker 2: been a huge Troy Walters here.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I think the earliest Notre Dame game I can

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Speaker 1: remember going to. We went to a Notre Dame Tennessee

946
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Speaker 1: game Knoxville or South Bend in South Bend, Okay, and

947
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Speaker 1: sat right behind the Tennessee band.

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Speaker 2: Hm hm cool.

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Speaker 1: Not really when you're that close to them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how the sound works. I guess

951
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Speaker 2: it can be loud and interrupting.

952
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: No, it's not even that it's loud interrupting. It's that

953
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Speaker 1: it's the same song over and over again. Rocky Top,

954
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: Rocky Top, Rocket, Top Rocket, A great song in college football, oar,

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Speaker 1: not so much when you're right next to it for

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Speaker 1: an entire game.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't recognize how annoying that can be

958
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Speaker 2: until going to an Oklahoma holiday against Oregon and going

959
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: to SC games because I would go to the USC

960
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Speaker 2: games with my friends before the Oregon school year started.

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Speaker 2: Because Oregon was on quarters, we wouldn't go till late September.

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Speaker 2: So I would go to early games with my buddies

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Speaker 2: at USC, and they just play that same damn song

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Speaker 2: Dune Done Done over, Dun, Dun Dun. But all the same.

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Speaker 2: I love going to USC games. They're very fun.

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Speaker 1: Well, Daniel, this has been a fun show. Yeah, soliverbo

967
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Speaker 1: at gmail dot COM's email right and give us your experience.

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Speaker 1: Love to hear it, love to hear what you're giving

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Speaker 1: your college football Valentine too. If you don't have the email,

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Speaker 1: which I'm assuming most people do in this year twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, but you can also look us up on

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Speaker 1: social media Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, all the usual hotspots. We've

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Speaker 1: got clips that go up to YouTube. Haven't posted a

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Speaker 1: lot there lately, but we do have designs on spinning

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Speaker 1: that up and getting a little bit more hot and

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Speaker 1: heavy with it, Dan, if you will moving forward here

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Speaker 1: in this new year. We also have a Patreon at

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Speaker 1: verballers dot com. Like I've been saying, we took a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a breather towards the end of January.

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Speaker 1: But I want to say next week I have to

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Speaker 1: look at the production schedule that we've got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: Next week we're going to start up with some of

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Speaker 1: our off topic stuff that has been very much in

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Speaker 1: high demand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got some early internet stuff tossing around, some more

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Speaker 2: video game stuff. We'll see. We got a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people responded very well to

989
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Speaker 2: when we had Felder on the show to talk about food.

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Speaker 2: So that's certainly going to happen at some point in

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Speaker 2: the spring, another dedicated food and drink show. All sorts

992
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Speaker 2: of things happening.

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Speaker 1: For sure, So check it out. Verballers dot com is

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Speaker 1: where you can find me about it.

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Speaker 2: What if I insist that we just do a podcast

996
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Speaker 2: industry show and just turn that microphone on you and

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00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: No, man, you know you probably don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people are. If people are subscribing on

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Speaker 2: Patreon they want deeply Nerdy Tie.

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Speaker 1: That that would be the best way to access deeply

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Speaker 1: Nerdy Tie.

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Speaker 2: Great, love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we could talk, but we've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of off topic stuff that we.

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Speaker 2: Were and if you're if you're in the Patreon discord,

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Speaker 2: tell us what off topics we should consider for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, we wish everyone a happy Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what that looks like for all y'all. As

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Speaker 1: we continue forward in this goofy pandemic of a year,

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Speaker 1: of a year and a half of whatever, however long

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Speaker 1: it's been, now but wish you well. Stay safe, stay warm, Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Out there in Chicago, it's tough, it's it's I've got

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Speaker 2: a rough road.

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Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Tie hillde Brand. Yeah, stay healthy, stay warm,

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Speaker 1: stay soft, nice,