1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome favorite production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vocalbaum, and today we've got 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: a classic episode for you about Julia Child, one of 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: our favorites, but particularly for you, Laura. Yes, absolutely well, 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Julia Child is is one of my favorite UM figures 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: and doing this episode was just an absolute joy. I 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: got super for clumped during it. In this time of 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: of isolation. UM, I I like sort of like like 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: rage watched Julia and Julia the other days it is 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: dreaming on Netflix. UM. And by rage watch, I mean 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: that Meryl Streep is a beacon of beauty in that film. 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: And uh, and the Julie character nothing to say against 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Amy Adams portrayal, but the Julie character is just one 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: of my least favorite characters and all of them. Oh 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: so that's why that's where the rage comes in. That's 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: where the rage comes in. Yeah, the half of the 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: movie that is about Julia Child is ridiculously delightful. M 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Stanley Tucci playing Paul is also amazing. But but but 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it's it's there's I'm just like, man, 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: that human seems like not a human that I want 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: to hang out with Well, luckily you don't have to, 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, I hope to. I hope Julie isn't 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: listening to this. Sorry, sorry about it. The film doesn't 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: portray you in a nice light. I was thinking the 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: other day, I have no intention to do this, but like, 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: if you had ever wanted to do the thing that 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: she does in that movie, which is sort of recreate 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: all those recipes, right, yeah, like like all like five 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: hundred and whatever recipes from Mastering the Art of French 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Cooking in a single year, so three and sixty five days. Yeah. Wow. 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: So if that was a project you want to undertake 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: but hadn't had the time or motivation, I mean maybe 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: that's that's something you could pick up now. Yeah, yeah, 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: no time like the present, I suppose. I mean, assuming 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: that you have like a like good access to to 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: all those groceries, that's true. Yeah, well you know that 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: could be an interesting thing too, where like I've had 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: to make some very fascinating substitutions. Some have worked out, 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: some have not worked out very much, decidedly not worked out. 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the experimenting aspect of it. Yeah, absolutely, Um, 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: it is definitely bringing out Um, yes, the innovator in me, 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I would say, yes, yes, we are all innovators in 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the kitchen. Now, gosh, it's true, it's true. But um yeah. 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: So so this episode originally aired in the before time 45 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: in October UM, and it's actually sort of timely that 46 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: we are running it again because a documentary about Julia 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Child is currently in production and just this past Friday, 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Sony Pictures Classics acquired worldwide rights to it. Um is 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: being created by the filmmakers who who got that Oscar 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: nominee last year for the RBG documentary, the Ruth Bader 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Ginsburg Documentary. UM and yeah. It should be out next 52 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: year and should feature like archival footage that has never 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: been seen before by the public, plus some personal photos 54 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: um and interviews with Julia's family and friends. Uh and yeah. 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: It's being made in cooperation with them and also with 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the Julia Child Foundation for Gastronomy and the Culinary Arts. 57 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: So looking forward to that one, yeah, totally. And speaking 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: of the foundation, they just made a fifty thou dollar 59 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: grant to World Central Kitchens Chefs for America program, which 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: is um that thing that Jose Andres Is is running 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: to help restaurants that have shuddered during COVID nineteen. UM 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: provide meals to people who are in need of meals, 63 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: um and and he he was recipient of the Julia 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Child Award from the Foundation, So it all kind of 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: fits together, but super lovely. UM also shout out to 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the Julia Child Foundation's podcast Inside Julia's Kitchen, which is 67 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: a lovely show that if you guys have not listened to, 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: I think you should. There you go a lot of 69 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: entertainment recommendations in this one. So yeah, yeah, like it's 70 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: some recommendations and some like I don't know if you 71 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: want to watch that thing. I want to do with 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: this information what you will? Yes, yes, we have provided information. 73 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Now you must decide. But all right, I guess we 74 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: should get into our classic uh yeah, yeah, taken away 75 00:04:47,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: former Annie and Lauren. Hello, welcome to food Stuff. I'm 76 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbon and I'm Annie Reese and today it's the 77 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Julia Child episode. Yes, it's finally here. Laurens so excited. 78 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I am. Oh, I'm freaking out just a little bit. 79 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: But okay, okay, So you know, we we have intended 80 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: to start doing a series of sort of biographical episodes 81 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: about famous food personalities, chefs, uh and and other humans. Yes, 82 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: and Julia Child is a great place to start. So 83 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: what is it? Nope, force of habit but brief bio 84 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: in case you don't know. Julia Child was a best 85 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: selling author, well known TV chef personality and CIA operative 86 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of. She was well known for her love of 87 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: French food and she was quite quite, quite quite popular. Um. 88 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: There have been movies about her, me Meryl Street playter, 89 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: um TV shows made about her, and I think one's 90 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: about to come out Julia Cool. Yeah, so she made 91 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: quite the impact. Yes, and she she to be super honest, 92 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: dear listeners. She made quite an impact on me. I 93 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: grew up with my my My father was a chef 94 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: and a cook, and my mom was a huge fan 95 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: of cooking, and so I grew up watching Julia Child 96 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: when I was a child, and watching her videos now 97 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: still elicits this extreme nostalgia response. It just makes me 98 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: so happy because she's she's so joyous about cooking. She's 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: so capable and and very physical. She just beats the 100 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: crap out of stuff continually, but in a useful way. 101 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know her whole attitude is is just 102 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: very positive. Yes, And I actually knew very little about 103 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Julia Child, so this has been quite a joyous thing 104 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: for me to learn about her. So let's let's start 105 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: with her early life. Julia Child was born Julia Caroline 106 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: mick Williams on August nine and Pasadena, California, to John Jr. 107 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: And Julia Carol Caroline excuse me McWilliams Nay Weston called 108 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: Carol yep. She was the oldest of three children and 109 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: went by several pet names like Jukes and Juju. Her 110 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 1: father was a consultant and financier. He was a second 111 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: generation gold pioneer who inherited a lot of his father's 112 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of business dealings gold pioneer, and her mother was 113 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the heiress of a paper company from her father and 114 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: her father was also the Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts. Uh. 115 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Julia's great grandparents on her mother's western side might have 116 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: known Dr Sylvester Graham. Everyone is connected to doctor Graham. 117 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy. They lived just a town over from 118 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: where Graham did a lot of his preaching. Um. The 119 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Weston family, by the way, also traced back to Plymouth 120 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: Rock Like. They were some of the first people to 121 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: come over to the United States or to to America. 122 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: At the time, it was not yet United through the 123 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Brewster line. Anyway, the mc williams must have been doing 124 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty well for themselves because all of their children went 125 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: to private schools and the family had a cook and 126 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: other servants. Julia was very active and known as a 127 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: bit of a prankster at her school um. She was 128 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: always tall, taking after her father, and topped out at 129 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: six ft two inches. Her sister, Dorothy was six ft three. 130 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Julia was kind of a rabble rouser and a bit 131 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: of a ham She always took part in school plays, 132 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: though she noted that do perhaps to her height and 133 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the fact that she attended an all girls school, she 134 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: was always casts as the man or as a beast, 135 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: never the princess. And random fact, on a family trip 136 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: to Tijuana, a young Julia encountered Caesar Cardini at his restaurant, 137 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: Ak the guy who came up with a Caesar salad. 138 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: The dude made the salad table side for them to enjoy, 139 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: and years later, when Julia child had become a famous 140 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: chef herself, she got Cardini's daughter Rosa to give her 141 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: the original recipe. Uh Speaking of food as we are 142 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: want to do. Julia's mother, Caro, didn't care for cooking, 143 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: so Julia never really touched a kitchen when she was younger. 144 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: She she grew up in the kind of family that 145 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: eats well, but very plainly. It was also an arrow 146 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: when prepackaged foods were kind of trendy. You know, being 147 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: able to serve like Hinz mint jelly with your lamb 148 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: was a sign of wealth and modernity. Hines mint jelly 149 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: in n She graduated from Smith College in Massachusetts with 150 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: a b a Bachelor of Arts in history. Her mom 151 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: was an alum, and Julia was enrolled at birth day 152 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: of her birth and she's enrolled in college okay. After graduation, 153 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: she started working for furniture company w n J Sloan 154 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: in New York as an ad copywriter. Her goal was 155 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: to become a writer, but she wrote in her diary, 156 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I am sadly. I am sadly an ordinary person with 157 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: talents I do not use. Yeah, young Julia, harsh on yourself. 158 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: She was also very active and outgoing during her college career, 159 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: where among things like drama and basketball, she was the 160 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: chair of refreshment committee for senior prom and fall dance 161 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: and I found this tidbit on the CIA's website. By 162 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, more on that in a second, but yeah, 163 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: So three years would pass before she returned to Pasadena. 164 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: She transferred to the Los Angeles w j salone branch, 165 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: but she was soon fired for gross and sword in subordination, 166 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite facts of this whole thing. 167 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I love that. So she started taking ob jobs as 168 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: a writer, mostly for various advertising firms, while also doing 169 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: volunteer work for the Junior League of Pasadena. She was 170 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: a little bit restless at the time. It was expected 171 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: in her circles for women to, you know, get married 172 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: and have fancy children and have fancy parties, and she 173 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: just wasn't interested. She turned down a marriage proposal from 174 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: what was considered a smart match um, and inspired by 175 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: her mother's relative independence, she insisted on marriage being based 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: on love. I'm good for you, Julia. Then World War 177 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Two happened and Julia moved to Washington, DC to help 178 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: in n but she ran into a snag her height. 179 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: Both the woman accepted for Volunteer Emergency Services or WAVES 180 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and Woman's Army Corps w a C rejected her on 181 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: the grounds of her being too tall at as Lam 182 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: said six ft two inches, So she joined what would 183 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: eventually become the CIA, the Office of Strategic Services instead, 184 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: as one of the four thousand five women OSS employed. 185 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: She started doing mostly clerical work as a research assistant 186 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: for the Secret Intelligence Division under the organization's leader, General 187 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: William J. Donovan. According to the CIA's website, she typed 188 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: up the names of thousands of officers on little white 189 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: note cards to keep track of them before you know, 190 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: computers and stuff. She had a great drive for for 191 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: detail work and organization and this this is thematic. Yes, 192 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: but that probably probably sucked. It probably wasn't the most stimulating. 193 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Then in one of my other favorite facts of this episode, 194 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: she transferred to the Emergency Sea Rescue Equipment section. M 195 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: you ask, what could she be doing there? Developing a 196 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: shark repellent. That's right. She helped come up with a 197 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: shark repellent that was actually super useful as a coding 198 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: for explosives used against German U boats that clumsy sharks 199 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: would sometimes bump into and set off. Um from Julia 200 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Child in the book Sister of Spies, I understand the 201 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: shark repellent we developed is being used today for down 202 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: to space equipment strapped around it so the sharks won't 203 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: attack when it lands in the ocean. This is the 204 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: only fact I knew about Julia Child going in because 205 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: I used to hit videos for Shark Week and I 206 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: remembered Julia Child was involved somehow, and I was like, Wow, 207 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: what could it be? Now I know Shaker Yes. In four, 208 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Julia Child was sent overseas to Ceylon modern day Sri 209 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Lanka as you might remember from our Cinnamon episode, and 210 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: eventually to Kunming, China, where she worked for the OSS 211 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: Registry and had top security clearance. She knew the contents 212 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: of all incoming and outgoing messages, especially dealing with the 213 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: invasion of Malay. During her time at the OSS and Ceylon, 214 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: she met her future husband and fellow O s S officer, 215 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Paul Cushing Child. Paul was working designing war rooms for 216 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: the generals that were stationed there and and in China. 217 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: Their romance was not always assured, however. Paul, who spoke 218 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: fluent French, was a black belt in Judo, was an artist, 219 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: was ten years older than Julia. In letters to his brother, 220 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Paul described her as wildly emotional and an extremely sloppy thinker, 221 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: unable to sustain ideas for very long. Julia was similarly 222 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: similarly unimpressed, writing Paul as having light hair which is 223 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: not on top, an unbecoming blonde mustache, and a long, 224 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: unbecoming nose. Light hair which is not on top might 225 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: be my new favorite, Like subtle discs. That's a good one, um. 226 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: He was also compared to her six to just five 227 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: ft ten inches. However, they both got over these gripes 228 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: about each other and were soon in love. Paul now 229 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: wrote to his brother, she frankly likes to eat and 230 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: user senses and has a keen nose. And she also 231 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: washes my shirts. What a dame. They also would bond 232 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: over the adventure of trying new foods in China. They 233 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: decided to take a few months to get to know 234 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: each other in civilian clothes once the World War had ended, 235 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: meeting each other's friends and family, traveling across kind country 236 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: before getting married in September. Inside note she'd been in 237 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: a car accident the previous day and got married with 238 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: a bandage on her head. It's actually kind of a 239 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: cute picture, um, And Paul was the one who introduced 240 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: her to cooking. Previous to meeting him, she pretty much 241 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: lived off frozen dinners and once exploded a duck in 242 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: the oven and caused a fire, haven't we all? I know, 243 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I've been there. Paul worked for the United States Information 244 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Service after the war and was stationed in the American 245 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Embassy in Paris, France. Julia accompanied him, and on the 246 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: way to Paris, they stopped in the town of Rouen 247 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: at La Corone, said to be the oldest inn in 248 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: the country, and they had a lunch there that Julia 249 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: would later call the most exciting meal of my life. 250 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: It featured raw oysters, fresh rye, bread and fresh butter sumoniere, 251 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: which is a whole fush a whole fish that's cooked 252 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: too simply with browned butter and parsley um, a green 253 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: salad after the main course, a baguette, cheese and coffee, 254 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: and a bottle of white wine, which absolutely shocked shocked Julia, 255 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: who was still kind of young at thirty six. Wine 256 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: at lunch, My goodness, what an exciting meal. Julia absolutely 257 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: adored the experience and fell head over heels for France 258 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: and French cuisine, later writing the whole experience was an 259 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: opening up of the soul and spirit. For me, I 260 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: was hooked and for life, as it turned out. So 261 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: that brings us to the beginning of Julia Child's food adventures. 262 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: But first let's pause for a quick word from our sponsor, 263 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. So as Paul and 264 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Julia settled into Paris, they found themselves not quite servantless 265 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: that the small two occupant building that they rented floors 266 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: on employed a maid, but they were basically cookless. As 267 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: they explored the city and especially its restaurants, Julia became 268 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: more and more fascinated by French food and culinary culture 269 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: and started teaching herself how to cook. She she basically 270 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: learned French so that she could communicate with her grocers. 271 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: She decided to enroll at the Cordon Blue, which is 272 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: a well established hobbyists and sort of pre professional cooking 273 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: school in the city, because you know, she finally had 274 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: something to be serious about, and she was very serious 275 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: about it. She quickly transferred from housewives classes to professional classes, 276 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: where she would learn under Chef Max Bulna, who had 277 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: learned under the great cuisine chef Augustus Scoffier. She she 278 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: had the idea that she might eventually contribute to her 279 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: in Paul's household, and you know, keep herself busy by 280 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: publishing a cooking pamphlet and teaching cooking classes for other 281 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: American expats in Paris in France in general. Um, she 282 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: was learning a great deal of technique and kitchen science 283 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: at the time. Plus between the connections that she made 284 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: through chef bon Jar and Paul's connections via the embassy, 285 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: she was getting exposure to the art and culture a 286 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: French cuisine. Well, I mean all those connections plus just 287 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: both her and Paul's shine. Like the two of them 288 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: seem like they were the absolute best folks to have 289 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: at parties. I know. I mean Paul speaks ten languages 290 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: and does black belt judo, and photographer and a poet. 291 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: It's it's very very worldly kind of dude. Um oh. 292 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: I should also mention that La Cordon Blue offered demonstrations 293 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: in the afternoons and a sort of kitchen theater. Julia 294 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: would compare it to to a surgical theater where students 295 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: and any civilian with the interest in the money could 296 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: come and watch professional chefs and ask questions as they 297 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: presented and explained their work. I can check those out. Eventually, 298 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: Julia would meet through her friends in France two women 299 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: who were working on a cookbook of French cuisine for Americans, 300 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: Simone Beck known as Simca and Louisette Bartol. They got 301 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: along really well and began offering cooking classes under the 302 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: name Icole gormant Uh without the s on the end. 303 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Y'all get the picture. I don't speak French. Uh. Through this, though, 304 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: Julia became interested in collaborating on their book, though she 305 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: wanted to go even further into detail then Simca and 306 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: Louisette had been doing. And her idea here was that 307 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: people are intimidated by cooking or not so good at 308 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: cooking because they don't have access to what amounts to 309 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: the feel of it. She thought that the cold science 310 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: approach to cooking that was built up by you know, 311 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: aesthetic nutritionists like Kellogg and by function over form home 312 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Mack classes had had left American cooks lacking. They didn't 313 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: know that the properties of their ingredients, or why certain 314 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: techniques work the way they do, or what a recipe 315 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: should look like and feel like during different points in 316 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the process, or or how to troubleshoot any problems that arise. 317 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: So starting in the three of them worked researched and 318 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: reworked and tested and re reworked every recipe with the 319 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: help of Paul and other family and friends on both 320 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: sides of the pond. This process would take ten years 321 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: and three publishers. UM the first was uncommunicative and they 322 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: they never signed a contract. Then UM Houghton Mifflin signed on, 323 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: but the deal fell through as deadlines whooshed on by 324 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: and the writing started sagging under the weight of its 325 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: own detail. Meanwhile, the child's were moving every few years 326 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: with Paul's job, from Paris to Marseilles, then Bond then Washington, 327 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: d C. Then Oslo and Julia would have to learn 328 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: another art along the way, writing in order to make 329 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: their their voices and their intentions come through in the book. Finally, 330 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: with help from longtime penpal Avis de Voto, the editors 331 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: at Not Publishing finally accepted the book, and so the 332 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: first volume of Mastering the Art of French Cooking published 333 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty one. Two. Just tremendous praise. That was 334 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: our tremendous praise. Noise, Yeah, it was probably much more 335 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: enthused than that. Yeah, yeah, that. There were like really 336 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: good reviews everywhere. Most people really liked it. It's old 337 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: a bunch. Paul had retired early from the Foreign Service 338 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: a year earlier, and the childs were living in Cambridge, Massachusetts. 339 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Paul had designed the kitchen with Julia's tremendous collection of 340 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: cookery and equally tremendous sense of organization in mind. There 341 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: were outlines on the pegboard walls for every pot and 342 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: every favorite device, and magnetic strips on the walls for knives, 343 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: and raised counters to accommodate Julia's height. That's awesome. Then, 344 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two, as Julia was working on volume 345 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: two of Mastering the Art of French Cooking, she was 346 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: invited to speak about it on local public television station 347 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: w g b H on a show about books UM, 348 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: a live lit interview kind of show. She brought along 349 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: a few props and showed showed viewers how to make 350 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: an omelet. The station received twenty seven letters about it. 351 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Seven it was it was unheard of at the time. 352 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: It was very it was very impressive. UM. The station 353 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: asked if she would consider filming a pilot for a 354 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: cooking series. The pilot was such a such a success 355 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: with their with their producers that they signed on for 356 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: twenty six black and white episodes of The French Chef, 357 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: which went into production in nineteen sixty three and would 358 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: continue filming on and off for nine years and over 359 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: two hundred episodes, eventually moving to color in nineteen seventy. 360 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: And it was a little bit ramshackle starting out. Um 361 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Paul took up various roles backstage. He was the sieux Chef. 362 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: He basically created all the museum, plus he did he 363 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: did most of the washing of the dishes. They eventually 364 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: had a volunteer crew members to help out, some half 365 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: a dozen to a dozen women, who Julia called her 366 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: associate cooks and would introduce by saying, it's so much 367 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: more fun to cook with friends. Don't you think I 368 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: agree with that? Right? Um? To avoid the expensive editing, 369 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: they filmed these half hour episodes each in one continuous take, 370 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: But because troubleshooting was always part of Julia's kind of 371 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: concepts as a cooking teacher, they only ever had to 372 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: stop and reshoot maybe like half a dozen times. Ever, 373 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: that's astounding, I know. Uh. Child would turn mistakes into 374 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: into teaching moments UM. Like when I when a gelatine 375 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: began losing its shape after unmolding, she said, never apologize. 376 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what you're aiming at, so just bring it 377 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: to the table. When the butter for a recipe hadn't 378 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: been taken out to soften before filming, she just explained 379 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: what to do when that happens. And of course there's 380 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the famous potato pancake incident during a flip. This thing 381 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: just escaped her pan and wound up on the counter 382 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: and she just sort of scooped it back in. You 383 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: can always pick it up. And if you're alone in 384 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: the kitchen, who's going to see? She's not wrong? Right? 385 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: Why we've all done it? Wise and beautiful words. The 386 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: title The French Chef was chosen because it fit easily 387 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: onto a single line in the TV guide. I mean 388 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: makes sense. She didn't really like it. She she felt 389 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: badly about positing herself as either French or a chef 390 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: when really she was an American cook. Total difference um. 391 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: At any rate, the show was hugely popular. Child was 392 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: basically the first celebrity to emerge from public broadcasting, and 393 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: she was the first PBS Personality to win an Emmy. 394 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: It was also the first show to include captions for 395 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: the hearing impaired, and it said that the popularity of 396 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: this basically made public television possible. Wow. Also, people seem 397 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: to have the idea that Child was often drinking during filming. UM, 398 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: but Paul In one of the show's producers, Ruth Lockwood, 399 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: maintain that that any antics that appear on film are 400 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: really just Julia being Julia and uh, and they arose 401 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: out of spontaneity. Lockwood once said, there's a sort of 402 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: rough script, but there's just no telling what's going to happen. 403 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: We always say it's thely real suspense show on television. UM. 404 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: Although Child often did appear with a wine glass on camera, 405 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: rumor has it that the glass contained watered down gravy master, 406 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: a dark colored sauce seasoning. She wasn't really drinking it, Okay, 407 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: that's about to say, is she doing gravy? My world? 408 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: That was a strong stuff, and it's it's been suggested 409 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: that that all of this happened at just the right time. 410 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, the elegant Kennedy's were employing a French chef 411 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: in their White House kitchen. And there's still a little 412 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: bit of a post war Francophilia that was influencing American culture, 413 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: and and TV broadcasting technology and home TV set technology. 414 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: We're really coming into their own and and the American 415 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: zeitgeist was leaning towards these modern, exciting interpretations of of 416 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: physicality and sensuality, and and here was this woman showing 417 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: you that all of that was within reach, and that 418 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: you didn't even have to be poised or perfect, you 419 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: just had to be willing to try. Within a couple 420 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: of years, the French Chef was syndicated to over ninety stations, 421 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: and Mastering had sold hundreds of thousands of copies. It 422 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: was a legit phenomenon, and it was changing the way 423 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: that Americans thought about food and cooking. Speaking of technology, 424 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Julia embraced it. Gadgets electronic or analog, from non stick 425 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: pans to food processors to the microwave, anything that could 426 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: make things more simple or less laborious. She was in 427 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: four and she had always been a bit of a 428 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: gadget feendto their stories of her just haunting shops around 429 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: Paris and buying way too many things, filling up all 430 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: of their kitchens wasn't she a bit of a knife 431 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: fiend as well? Oh yeah, they had hundreds. She had 432 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: one she called the Monster or something, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah. 433 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: She also had a bag that had all of her 434 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: oh the Sacred bag. Yeah. She would carry it around 435 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: with her on on tour into into sets, and it 436 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: would have just these like essential items, like there was 437 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: this one measuring cup made of bone that she just 438 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: really liked. She was like, this one, this one is important. 439 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: You know, you have your go to things, I understand, 440 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: but also stuff like extension cords because you know, filmmaking, 441 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: you need you need them. Meanwhile, the child had built 442 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: a vacation home in Provence, which they spent as much 443 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: time and was allowed. She was writing a lot, working 444 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: on a book based on her TV series and on 445 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: Volume two of Mastering. At the time, she was struggling 446 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: with cancer and Paul with various cardiovascular issues, but but 447 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: both of them just kind of moved through it with 448 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the sort of joy de viv that both of them embodied. 449 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: She would wind up moving away from her working relationship 450 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: though with with Simca and Louisette. Both of them had 451 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: different ideas about how best to work with recipes and 452 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: even what French cooking really meant. Julia also implied that 453 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: her sudden fame in America made her relationship with Simca tents, 454 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: but she would wear a badge from their cooking school 455 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: that at called atual Gormand for the entire run of 456 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: The French Chef. After The French Chef ended, Child would 457 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: go on to do a number of other shows for 458 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: public television, preferring to quote stick with the educators, and 459 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: she would write companion books for each of them. For 460 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: a couple she actually filmed in her own Cambridge home, 461 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: necessitating a rig to be mounted to the ceiling for lights. 462 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: The two that I think are particularly of note are 463 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: The Way to Cook, which is this extensive book from 464 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: nine with an accompanying myriad of videotapes that have since 465 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: been put on DVD. There's like hundreds of chapters. It's great. 466 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Um also her collaborations with other celebrity chef and a 467 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: personal friend, Jacques pa penn Uh, including the nine Ish 468 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: series Julia and Jacques Cooking at Home, in which they 469 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: improvised their recipes. That sounds so fun. Oh, they're they're 470 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: terrific together, Like they had this amazing banter on screen. 471 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: They would, you know, if his back was turned, she 472 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: would add butter. If her back was turned, he would 473 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: add garlic. It was really cute anyway. Um Child would 474 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: also do numerous cooking demonstrations at local colleges and on tour, 475 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: both alone and with folks like Jack. She sounds like 476 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: she was a very genuine person. She supposedly had her 477 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: her name and phone number in the local phone book 478 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: in Cambridge and answered her her own phone. Her her 479 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: publisher was stunned by this. You know a people. She 480 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: said that people like like locals would call in and 481 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: ask her for help with a recipe, and she would 482 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: just give it to them. She's like the first iteration 483 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: of the butter ball hotline, Oh much, I'm sure, far sup, 484 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: You're well, I don't know, I don't sorry butter ball, 485 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. But but perhaps perhaps less. 486 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: I think it's okay if you're less delightful than Julia Child. 487 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I agree, she sounds very delightful. We have a few 488 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: more delightful tidbits about her, but first we've got another 489 00:29:48,600 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 490 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. In Julia Child joined the CIA, No, 491 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: not that one, the Culinary Institute of America. She later 492 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: became the first woman inducted into their Hall of Fame. 493 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: And this wasn't the only award Child would receive, Oh No. 494 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: She was awarded the Lugean Don Donneur from Jack Papa 495 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand and In two thousand three, George W. 496 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Bush awarded her the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I'm not 497 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: sure if it counts as an award, but SNL did 498 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: a sketch of the French Chef with Child portrayed by 499 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Dan Ackroyd in ninety eight in in the In the sketch, 500 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: she turns a slip of the knife into one of 501 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: those teaching moments, spraying the set with blood and walking 502 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: the audience through making a tourniquet out of like available 503 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: chicken scraps. It's it's real grizzly and real gross and 504 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: and hilarious. Julia said that she loved it and kept 505 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: taped copy of the sketch by her television at all times. UM. 506 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: She also received an honorary doctorate from Harvard in after 507 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: her eightieth birthday. UM. The inscription was a Harvard friend 508 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: and neighbor who was filled the air with common sense 509 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: and uncommon sense. Long may her souflet's rise. That's pretty excellent, 510 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: good words. She donated two thousand, five hundred books and 511 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: other papers to the Library of Gastronomic Literature there, which 512 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: is the largest cookbook collection in the country, or at 513 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: least it was at the time. And thanks to the 514 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: two thousand one donation from Julia, you can see the 515 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: kitchen Paul designed at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. 516 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: It's got three viewpoints and loads of memos, framed recipes, 517 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: various articles, and a television of course, playing her show 518 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: on a loop. Uh. In two thousand two, a blogger 519 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: began working her way through the entirety of mastering the 520 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: art of French cooking, which became the inspiration for a 521 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: novel and then the film Julie and Julia in two 522 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: thousand nine, starring Meryl Streep. Her biography says it's Streep 523 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: reincarnated a child MHM. The relationship and marriage between Julia 524 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: and Paul is often pointed to as being ahead of 525 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: its time. Once Julia's show became successful, Paul supported her 526 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: in her career, testing all the recipes, acting as an agent, 527 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: washing the dishes, all those things we said. This was 528 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: unusual for the time. In Julia Child's own words, middle 529 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: class women did not have careers. You were to marry 530 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: and have children and be a nice mother. You didn't 531 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: go out and do anything. Paul's attitude toward the whole 532 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: thing could be summed up with this quote, how fortunate 533 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: we are at this moment in our lives, each doing 534 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: what he most wants, in a marvelous, marvelously adapted place, 535 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: close to each other, superbly fed and housed with excellent health. 536 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: He devoted most of his time to helping Julia succeed 537 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: in the later part of their lives in her endeavors 538 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: and um. The New York Times wrote in a nineteen 539 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: seventy four profile of Julia Child that Paul suffered from 540 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: no apparent insecurities of male He would tour with her, 541 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: and at one press conference. At that New York Times 542 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: article references they were both encouraging newcomers to cooking to 543 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: be daring. Paul said they should not be afraid of 544 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: hard work. Julia said cooking wasn't really hard once he 545 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: mastered the essential techniques. Paul said that mastering the techniques 546 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: required much hard work. It just sounds so cute. Um 547 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: he would he would pass away in n at the 548 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: age of ninety two, and she would follow ten years 549 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: later in two thousand four, two days before her ninety 550 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: second birthday, what was meant to be a birthday party 551 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: turned into a wake and a celebration of her life 552 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: before she died, though, Julius at the stage for one 553 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: last public series of sorts, the Julia Child Foundation for 554 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Gastronomy and the Culinary Arts. It's a nonprofit based in 555 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara, where Julia moved just a few years before 556 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: her death, and it makes grants and awards to other 557 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: nonprofits and schools and individuals to support historical research, gen 558 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: culinary training and food writing and food literacy. And uh, 559 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of getting to the to the wrap up 560 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: point of the episode if you couldn't tell, So, I 561 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do a quick shout out to two of 562 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: the sources that I drew on extensively for some of 563 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: this history. Um. One is a memoir that Julia Child 564 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: wrote with her grand nephew, Alex prulom Um called My 565 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: Life in France, and the other is a biography that 566 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Child came to like well enough that she would actually 567 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: sign copies of um frequently alongside the author. It's called 568 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Appetite for Life, and that's by Noel Riley Fitch. There 569 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: are really numerous biographies of her, including her relationship with cats, 570 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: but but those are the two that I glommed onto. Um. 571 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: And let's let's end with the quote, maybe I find 572 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: Julia Child just endlessly quotable. UM. I found one from 573 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: just before her death in two thousand four from Time 574 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: magazine that I think kind of sums everything up. Food 575 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: is very friendly. Just looking at a potato, I like 576 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: to pat it. There's something so pleasant about a big 577 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: baking potato or a whole bunch of peas in their shells. 578 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: To me, the kitchen has never stopped being a place 579 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: just full of possibilities and pleasures. That's lovely. Oh yeah, 580 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: she I mean there's so much about her. Um. If 581 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: you don't, if you're like me and you don't know 582 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: too much about her, there's so much out there. Yeah, um, 583 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: you can you can also, uh, you can watch a 584 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: number of her things on either PBS or YouTube if 585 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: you if you're so inclined. Um, and uh, I don't know. 586 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: I I'm I'm a little bit for clemped, like I like, 587 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't usually get nervous before I come into the studio, 588 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: but I got genuinely nervous coming in. I was like, 589 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Julia is going to be listening, she can hear me. 590 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to let her down. Um yeah, it's 591 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: it's it's I find her very inspiring to watch because 592 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: she's so so just in control of everything in a 593 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: very wild and entertaining way. So if you haven't, if 594 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: you haven't seen too much video ever, check her out. 595 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: Once you've seen a few episodes, maybe check out that 596 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: Dana Acroid skit. It's really great. Yeah, and that brings 597 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: us to the end of this our classic episode. We 598 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: hope that you enjoyed it as much as we did, 599 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: and we were working We got a lot of things 600 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: in the works, including hopefully soon fairy Tale Food. It's 601 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of you have written in and said that 602 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: you're looking for that, you want more episodes like that, 603 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: and we heard you and we're working towards it. Yes, 604 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: it is. It is happening, but not necessarily in a 605 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: creepy way. But maybe I don't know, but I guess 606 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: it depends on your point of view. Really from a 607 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: certain point of view. Again, we just give you the information. 608 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: We can't we can't tell you what to do with 609 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: the information. 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