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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. It's a size

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Speaker 1: them up Monday six team that ten win over the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I don't care if it's ugly. The ring

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Speaker 1: still looks beautiful. Yeah, that's how it. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: the message that John Harball delivered to the team after

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Speaker 1: the after the game. I mean, not necessarily pretty or perfect,

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Speaker 1: but you can figure out your issues after a win.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to take a look at that

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Speaker 1: it with a smile on your face and you're sitting

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Speaker 1: as the top team in the a f C, which

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Speaker 1: is where the Ravens are right now. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: know that game was once again nerve wracking. Was not

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Speaker 1: a relaxing end to a holiday weekend. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, people are going back to work

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Speaker 1: today with a smile on their face because the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are the best team in division and the best team

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Speaker 1: in the conference. Well that's the kind of question, right

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into that. But you know, just another

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Speaker 1: insane improbable win. I mean, the Ravens became the first

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Speaker 1: team in the Super Bowl era to win a game

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Speaker 1: in which they scored fewer than seventeen points, had fewer

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Speaker 1: than three total yards, and through at least four or

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Speaker 1: more interceptions to their opponent. First ever teams were zero

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five and one in that scenario.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it wasn't just like they turned the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a shootout in which you just turned the

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Speaker 1: and still were able to win it. Really because of

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Speaker 1: the defense. Ravens defense a huge performance. Um. But before

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Speaker 1: we get into that, I mean, let's let's just recap here, Garrett, Okay,

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Speaker 1: because I think there's there's just a series of improbable

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Speaker 1: things that have had Is it improbable or unprobable? I

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Speaker 1: think it's late on sleep, um Um. But I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I'll run down the checklist here real quick, and I'll

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Speaker 1: admit it. Okay, I'll admit my predictions have been terrible

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Speaker 1: this year. Every time I think something's gonna happen the

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Speaker 1: option all year long. I mean, I thought, let's let's

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Speaker 1: run down the list. I thought that when the Ravens

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Speaker 1: Gus Peters, I thought that they'd be scraping by, you know,

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Speaker 1: five hundred for much of the year and just scrapping,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like would be fortunate to get in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs after that string of injuries. That was even

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Speaker 1: before Ronnie Stanley was out for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: That I was thinking, right, and here they are eight

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Speaker 1: and three, first place in the a f C after

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Speaker 1: Week twelve. Right. Did not expect that, Okay, did not

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Speaker 1: did not expect the Ravens to come back from the

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Speaker 1: mean thought that game was over, right, Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: they thought the Chargers game would be, you know, really

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Speaker 1: but they did. I thought we cla thought we clawber

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins get blasted down there. Didn't think that the

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Speaker 1: Ravens could win without Lamar Jackson the way he's been

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Speaker 1: carrying him. Thought, if Lamar is out on the field,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, they don't have to stand the chance.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley says, nah, snoop, gotcha win in Chicago. Did

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Speaker 1: not think the Ravens could throw foreign receptions and without

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Speaker 1: Class Campbell, who has been their best defensive player of

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Speaker 1: stop the number one rushing attack and Nick Chubb and

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Speaker 1: brand the Ravens without class Campbell, Nah, stuff him, feed him.

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Speaker 1: I mean good, it's gracious you. If you said before

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Speaker 1: the game that the Ravens are gonna Lamar is gonna

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Speaker 1: throw four picks and the Ravens are gonna win, You're like,

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Speaker 1: no way, no way, right, well, how about this? How

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Speaker 1: about this though? If you say before the game that

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt combined for thirty six rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: are you saying that's a blowout Ravens win. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's This game was just It was just and I

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Speaker 1: get a lot of what you're saying. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: there was just weird chaotic stuff like that, you know,

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Speaker 1: there was just kind of some chaotic times during the game.

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Speaker 1: Questionable referee moments, Yeah, reviews where you're like, okay, that

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Speaker 1: So so it just it was it was a weird game.

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Speaker 1: if the Ravens are gonna pull it off, and they did.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, what was different about this one is that

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Speaker 1: you take them quarterback game a hot potato with the

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Speaker 1: Next yeah, yeah, I was like just getting the tweet out,

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Speaker 1: I hope this tweet sends out before uh. I hope

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Speaker 1: this tweet processes before the pick is live on TV. Great,

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Speaker 1: another another wild game. And I think the question now is,

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Speaker 1: look at that and say that watching that game last

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Speaker 1: your record says you are. And the Ravens have beaten

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Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens don't have many pretty victories,

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Speaker 1: if it's not the Ravens who are the best team?

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Speaker 1: Who who is it? Is it the Titans? Who you know?

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's this this perfect team

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Speaker 1: and then the best team from there doesn't always win.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, the Ravens were the best, didn't win

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Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year. He deserves it. Michael Parsons

426
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Speaker 1: had a great season, but Romo, you're forgetting no way,

427
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Speaker 1: because that guy has been a force all season hauling

428
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Speaker 1: out Tony Romo. You should add him on Twitter, just Adam.

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Speaker 1: I love Romo. I love Romo, but you can't forget

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Speaker 1: away in the season he's having in that defensive Rookie

431
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Speaker 1: of the Year race. Absolutely, I think it's a two

432
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: horse race in that and Odafe is talked about that.

433
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Speaker 1: You know how he's competing with his Penn State buddy.

434
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, they played together and competed at at Penn

435
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Speaker 1: State and now they're competing again in the NFL, and

436
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure the texting each other this morning as we

437
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: speak talking about that game. So really cool to see

438
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Speaker 1: him continue to develop. And then the other the other

439
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: guy I want to shout out on defense is Tis Bowser.

440
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Ended the game, ended the game two straight games, had

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Speaker 1: the sack to force to prevent the Hail Mary in

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Speaker 1: Chicago on Andrew Dalton and then closes it out with

443
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Speaker 1: a fourth down tackle on David then Joko uh To

444
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Speaker 1: to beat the Browns, and and talk about another guy

445
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: that's doing everything is everywhere. I mean, goodness, gracious, you

446
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Speaker 1: see on that last drive, you know, the Browns have

447
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Speaker 1: the ball back with a minute or so left, no

448
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: time outs, have to score a touchdown, and you see

449
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: Tis Bowser out running with Jarvis Landry on a route.

450
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Speaker 1: I mean you're like, oh my goodness, what a spot

451
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Speaker 1: to be in and blanketed blanket Yeah, I mean that guy.

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Speaker 1: It's really I was thinking about this last night. Thias

453
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Speaker 1: Bowser is a case in point not too right off

454
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Speaker 1: players too earlier in their career. I mean, second round

455
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: pick who through his first two three seasons even like

456
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: just didn't didn't do a lot. I mean I remember

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Speaker 1: writing stories about how Taias Bowser and Tim Williams it

458
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: was like a put up or shut up year right

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Speaker 1: going into their third season, and he just didn't do

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Speaker 1: a lot. I mean rookie three sacks played every game,

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Speaker 1: three sacks and one pick, So okay, not bad as

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Speaker 1: a rookie. Half a sack is second year then third

463
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Speaker 1: year team kind of gets it going with five sacks

464
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Speaker 1: and you see, all right, this guy's got some juice

465
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Speaker 1: coming off that edge. Then last year just shows really

466
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Speaker 1: his coverage ability. Three picks, I mean, one of the

467
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Speaker 1: best shows he's one of the best coverage linebackers. And

468
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens resigned him, and my goodness, that looks like

469
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: a great move right now because Bowser is doing everything. Yeah.

470
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Speaker 1: Also great value on the signing and and and that's

471
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Speaker 1: where you give Eric to Costa a ton of credit

472
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Speaker 1: for the first signing player who's highly productive at you know,

473
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Speaker 1: that's the old right player, right price. I thought Marlon

474
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Speaker 1: Humphrey had a you know, really kind of honest quote

475
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Speaker 1: about it yesterday after the game. He said, man, it's

476
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: been great to get drafted with him in seventeen it

477
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: seems like these past two years you just kind of

478
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden went crazy, kind of turned into

479
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Speaker 1: that household name that we all knew we wanted to

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Speaker 1: be when you first get drafted and you want to

481
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Speaker 1: stay with a certain team forever. So I think that

482
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Speaker 1: like other players recognized that too, and it's kind of like,

483
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Speaker 1: all right, kind of slow to get going. And then

484
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Speaker 1: I think part of it is Tias improved, he developed,

485
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Speaker 1: and then the Ravens also kind of found creative ways

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Speaker 1: to use him, Like there's not many outside linebackers in

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Speaker 1: the league who are applying pressure around the quarterback and

488
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Speaker 1: then covering a wide receiver thirty yards downfield that that's

489
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Speaker 1: just not happening. There's probably one guy that's doing it,

490
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Speaker 1: and it's and it was the number one receiver, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: And there's probably one guy that's doing it, and that's

492
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Speaker 1: Tias and John Harball. We talked about it in the

493
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Speaker 1: podcast last week after the Chicago game, talked about how

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Speaker 1: Tighs is playing as well as any linebacker in the

495
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Speaker 1: league in terms of what the Ravens asked him to do.

496
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: And we saw that again yesterday and he's he's been excellent.

497
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: Um so we have Tibeau on the pot. Maybe we

498
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: had signed the contract extension, I believe, right right, but

499
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: it might be time to run that back. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to say. What to say, all right? I

501
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: like where you're thinking the Edge Rushers. I mean, you know,

502
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about losing Matthew Judan

503
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: and the way he's playing right now in New England.

504
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: He has just been lights out, a huge hit up there.

505
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: And then last night, I think it was on the

506
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: broadcast they're giving the Ravens propsy, you know, or Mayo

507
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: is on Twitter. I don't know, but it's just like, yeah,

508
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: they lose the Edge Rushers, they lose it Arius Smith,

509
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: they lose these guys, and then they just keep bringing

510
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Speaker 1: more in. You know, it's a nice guy and it's

511
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: just become this factory. And I think Ravens fans it's

512
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Speaker 1: interesting to see that from the outside perspective because Ravens fans,

513
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Speaker 1: I think, have been pretty critical of the rate of

514
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Speaker 1: Baltimore's ed dressers and their pressure ability to get pressure.

515
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Speaker 1: And last night, you know, Baker is a little hobbled,

516
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: but that's a good offensive line, and that offensive line

517
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: also got away with a number of holding penalties. Just

518
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: throwing it out there because it's true and and still

519
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: the amount of pressure created from those EDG dressers is impressive.

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00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Bowser and o Way for

521
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Speaker 1: years to come in this defense. Now it's exciting. It's

522
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: an exciting duo. And I'm I'm pumped for Dale and

523
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Speaker 1: Hayes again on the field too. This is a guy

524
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Speaker 1: that people haven't been talking about. Fifth round pick. I

525
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: don't know, I think fifth round, I don't know. He

526
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: has been banged up all year. John Harbor said he's

527
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: still can come back this season. And I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: there were points in training camp when I thought Dale

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Speaker 1: and Hayes looked like the better pass rusher than Dafe

530
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: and who had a fantastic training camp. But Dalon Hayes

531
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: was really good. Now you're stepping into the hyperbole territory.

532
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, hey, he's had a really good camp.

533
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Speaker 1: I mean that little did it was so good. I thought,

534
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I think that guy is going to be a good player.

535
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying putting it out there. Before we take

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00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a break, let's get into this email here. This one

537
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: comes from Corey Alexander. He says, can we please put

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Speaker 1: some respect on my dog, Brandon Williams name. I know

539
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: he's not the player he was, and we signed us

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Speaker 1: that big contract of years ago. And I'll be the

541
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Speaker 1: first to admit that. When I heard class is gonna

542
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: miss last night's game, I had flashbacks of when the

543
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Browns ran all over us the first game we played

544
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: against them in Dido, But Brandon came in and reminded

545
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: us who he is. Last night, we completely shut down

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Speaker 1: the running game. And I know it's not all because

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Speaker 1: of Brandon, but after missing three games and coming in

548
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: it's still not missing a beat. It's pretty impressive. So

549
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: please give him the roses while he's here. Yeah, yeah,

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00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree. Brandon had a strong game. Obviously,

551
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: when you you totally take away their running game like

552
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens did. But I'm trying to pull up the

553
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: stats as i'm talking here. How many yards did they

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00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: have forty on seventeen carries? That's crazy. Bryan Williams had

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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: a tackle for loss. Really good game for Brandon. They

556
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: definitely missed him. Um, but I don't want to take

557
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: anything away from Justin Ellis jelly roll. How long it

558
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: does it take? Until my nickname becomes Jelly. I'm getting

559
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: you on your way after Thanksgiving weekends. So I'm feeling

560
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: like it. Um, I mean, just yeah, give him credit,

561
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Give Justin mad Abe Gay credit. Yeah. Um, but yes,

562
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: and Brandon also deserves some roses for sure. I mean

563
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: there's a mountain of evidence that shows the Ravens are

564
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: a better team when he's on the field than when

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00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: he's not. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean when when Klaus like,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to beat without both those guys, and

567
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: it was, it's no doubt a blow to lose Calais,

568
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: and I think we're all kind of crossing our fingers

569
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: going into the weekend that he'd be able to go

570
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: and just wasn't. But you get Brandon back, and I

571
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: think that that helped the run defense, no doubt, no doubt.

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00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: But you know, John Harball, like you're saying, also pointed

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Speaker 1: out the other guys that have been in that mix too,

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Speaker 1: and Jelly being one of them got a b K

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Speaker 1: Roger Washington. So, um, when you're talking about a run defense,

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of an all hands on deck effort.

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00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: It's that that's not like a one guy situation, similar

578
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: to like a corner shutting down a number one wide receiver.

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00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: You need all hands on deck. We already talked about

580
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Queen Guy, set in the edge, all of it. So, um,

581
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: just a great job overall by the run defense. So

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and then we'll

583
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Speaker 1: dive into the offense. Sunday is right around the corner.

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592
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: so we've talked about all the good stuff with the defense.

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00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get into that little bit more of

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Speaker 1: the ugly. Lamar's four interceptions the most he's ever thrown

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: uh in the NFL and the most he's thrown since

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00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: his last game of college. Uh. What do you make

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00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: of Lamar's picks? Are you concerned moving forward about them?

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00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Just what's what's what's your alarm level at here? I'm

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00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: not concerned moving forward because I don't think that that's

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Speaker 1: necessarily something that like translates from one game to another.

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I thought that most of them were one was tipped,

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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: the others I think we're bad decisions. Um. What one

603
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: was it seemed like to in the Mark Andrews and

604
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: type coverage. Yeah, and I think one of them on

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00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: the on the throat of Mark Andrews was there was

606
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: just miscommunication. He thought Mark was going to break in

607
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Mark Mark didn't, and so that seemed to be just

608
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: kind of they were on the same page on that,

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00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: which you almost never see what those two guys um.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not necessarily worried about it as like a

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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: theme or a trend moving forward. I was worried about

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00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: it last night, no doubt about that. UM. But I

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00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: think that, like to me, Lamar looked like a guy

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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: who hadn't played in a few weeks, which he hadn't

615
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: hadn't played since that game that Thursday night game in Miami,

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Speaker 1: and then in the middle of that missed the game

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00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: because he was really sick, and he looked like it.

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Speaker 1: He looked like a guy who had been who was

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Speaker 1: who was rusting and had been sick. Um. I don't

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: know if that had anything to do with his performance,

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: but it just seemed that way. Um, And I think

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00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: that he does what I will say from a trend standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I will say that he has to do a better

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00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: job in close games like this of protecting the football

625
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: because there were some situations where you know, the Ravens

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00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: could have put the game away if they go like

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, if they go down to get

628
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: a they get a score, and they just kept giving

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00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: it back to the Browns and allowing them to hang around. Luckily,

630
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: the defense got it done them. But I think in

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: close games like that, you're not gonna win many of

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00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: them if you're careless, careless with the football. And he can't.

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00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: He can't do that in those close games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar just needs to play better. I think

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00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: he I think last night was a little I think

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00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: the game plan was that they were going to get

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Speaker 1: the ball out fast. They were He did not feel comfortable.

638
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: They knew that that pass rush with Myles Garrett, Jadeveon

639
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Clowney against big Al and McCarry was gonna be tough,

640
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: and it was get the ball out fast, trying to

641
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: get the pass rush with that, and I think that

642
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: that isn't really what Lamar wants to do exactly, you know. Um,

643
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: And they were throwing a lot of zone coverage that

644
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: I think kind of made Lamar really take pause, especially

645
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: after you throw a couple of picks. Then you really

646
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: don't want to throw a pick and you're not You're

647
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: just a little more gunshoy. I thought there were some

648
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: throws that he just kind of didn't make the read

649
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: fast enough and and there were openings and not throwing

650
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: with as much anticipation I think as he needs to,

651
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's it's kind of like throwing

652
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: to a spot rather than having to see the guy

653
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: open and hit him. I think he just and that's

654
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: what I think part to your rust, maybe, you know,

655
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: just missing practice time all that stuff, and missing the reps,

656
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: missing game time, and you're just not quite as you're

657
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: not feeling it. Like I think we've seen with Lamar,

658
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: He's can be a mom He is a momentum kind

659
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: of quarterback at times. I mean, Joe was very much that.

660
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Lamar is quite as much as Joe was,

661
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: but every player is you kind of get on the heater.

662
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: And Lamar right now is kind of cold. He's just

663
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: just kind of cold like he and I think the

664
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: slow starts have contributed to that. Um. He he needs,

665
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: he needs to get off to a good start in

666
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: a game, and I think that can really kind of

667
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: springboard him a little bit because right now I feel

668
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: like he's playing a little bit. He's not sure of

669
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: himself in the passing game, is what it looks like

670
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: to me. And I think that there was just a

671
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: couple of throws that were off, not a on, but

672
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: but enough to create either in completion or a turnover

673
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: at all. Point to One was the long throw early

674
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: in the game to Hollywood down the sideline just ends

675
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: up overshooting him a little bit, not a ton, but

676
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. And the other one was the reverse

677
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: could have you know, split the difference was the interception

678
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: of Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews had a step on the

679
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: defender under throws it a touch of the final fourth

680
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: interception yeah yeah, and then that ends up getting picked,

681
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, split the difference on those two, and I

682
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: think that probably is part of the Russ factor that

683
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I was talking about. I mean, he has nine interceptions

684
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: in his last five games. Yeah, um, but and and

685
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: what you got four and one, so that makes that

686
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: number look look really but still but still, I mean

687
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: it's two against the Chargers. You know, he didn't have

688
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: one against Cincinnati despite that being a tough game, but

689
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: was under fifty completion percentage in that game. Uh, you know,

690
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: then two picks against Minnesota, one against Miami and what

691
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: was the worst offensive game of his career as the

692
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: offense as a whole, you know, not just him, but

693
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: when you're when you have back to back games when

694
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: you say it's the worst offensive game of the Lamar

695
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: Jackson era, and then the worst game of mar Jackson's

696
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: career against the Browns, you know, throwing four picks. It's

697
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: not you don't want to keep saying worst. Yeah, we

698
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: need we need some best in here. And so, you know,

699
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I just think that he's got to play better, uh,

700
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: point blank, and he knows that and he can certainly

701
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: get to that. I don't I don't think, like you said,

702
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: each interception is its own thing. Like I don't, I

703
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: don't know that there's an overarching trend um to the

704
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: interceptions other than you're just gonna play better, like make

705
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: better reads all that stuff. Yeah, well, obviously he knows that.

706
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: He tweeted after the game, I'm getting back in the

707
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: lab flock WTF and then a couple of hashtags. But

708
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: so he's he's well aware of it with the puke

709
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: emoji um, sick face emoji um. But the other part

710
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: of it, too, is like this year, the Ravens don't

711
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: have the run game to lean on as they did

712
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, like you go back to nineteen,

713
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: like they could just they could just mall teams on

714
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: the ground when they running behind Marcia Yonda and Ronnie

715
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: Stanley and Orlando Brown and just that great offensive line

716
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: and with with you know, mark Ingram playing at a

717
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level and Gus the bus. So the run

718
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: game is just not the same this year. So if

719
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: if the passing game is not sharp for whatever reason,

720
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: well they can't say, all right, this is gonna be

721
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: a Grand and Pound game where we just hand the

722
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: ball off to j K and Gus and let those

723
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: guys go to work. And that's the reality of being

724
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: a team that has your top three running backs go

725
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: on I R before the season yeah. I mean I

726
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: think what's happening is the Ravens aren't getting a lot

727
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: in the run game on first down really, so the

728
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Ravens are facing a lot of second and ten second

729
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: and nine third and third longs. And then you are

730
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that is banged up without Ronnie

731
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Stanley that Lamar I don't think feels super comfortable in

732
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: and that limits your you know, when you have to

733
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball that limits quickly, or or

734
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: take a sack that limits your plays, right, and he

735
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel comfortable. So like you saw last night,

736
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it just looks like he was trying to

737
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: extend plays running around. I mean it was like scramp backyard.

738
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: It looked like my Thanksgiving game of football. Um, you know,

739
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: running around trying to make some plays, pointing guys to

740
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: where you want him to run. I mean that's kind

741
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: of what the offense was last night. And honestly, there

742
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of like yep, that's how we

743
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: drew it up, you know. Um So give give Lamar credit.

744
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, he makes the huge play on the touchdown

745
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: throw that is just unreal. I mean, that's that's what

746
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: makes Lamar so special. Even when he's having a rough night,

747
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: a guy can make a magical play at any time.

748
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just a ridiculous play throwing the ball thirty

749
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: seven yards for a thirteen yard touchdown. And and by

750
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: the way, Myles Garrett hit his arm as he threw

751
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: that touchdown pass um so that you know, it's kind

752
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: of like you kind of Lamar. You you ride with

753
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: him and you die with them sometimes, you know. And

754
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: and and luckily he had enough magic last night to

755
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: still make it happen. Yeah, Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

756
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: And like I said, I mean, we've talked a lot

757
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: about the running game over the course of this year

758
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: and just what it is like that that's just what

759
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the rest of the way. We're not

760
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna see, like, I don't think there's ever gonna be

761
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: a situation a point whether Ravens kind of unlock a

762
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: new dimension of the running game and all of a

763
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: sudden there gashing teams on the ground. They're gonna be

764
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: a team where it's or it's tough to run effectively,

765
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: and you know, eight yards on first down is gonna be.

766
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: It felt like in nineteen that was just the expectation.

767
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, that's what we said in the

768
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: press box when Freeman got outside for an eight yard

769
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: or on first down, we were like, everybody's treating it

770
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: like it was a fifty yard run. Yeah, yes, right,

771
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be is going to be more of a

772
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: slog and then you're gonna have to get it done

773
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: in other ways, and the Ravens for the most part,

774
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: have But it just puts, i think, even more on

775
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's shoulder in the passing game because you can't

776
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: lean on the run game quite as much, and then

777
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: defenses don't have to sell out to stop the run

778
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: quite as much. They can play a little bit more

779
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: coverage and there's just kind of a ripple effect with

780
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: all of that, and I think that maybe goes to

781
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: some of the anticipation that you're talking about. Maybe guys

782
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: aren't quite as wide open as they had been previously.

783
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Um So, I think that he will snap out of it,

784
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be easy, especially you know, next

785
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: week you're you're going up against the Steelers. They've got

786
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: a lot of talented players on that defense. So one

787
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: of the worst run defenses in the league, though, if

788
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: there's ever a time for the run the run game

789
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: to get going even a little bit, I know that's

790
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: why the stats say. But I just don't run defense

791
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: in the league. I know that's what the stats say.

792
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe they're gonna be able to put up

793
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: two yards on the ground next week, But I just

794
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing Cam Hayward and and that

795
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: defensive front get gash for a huge game on the ground.

796
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Well that's because you're always scared of the Steelers. So

797
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: I understand where this is coming from. You're always scared

798
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: of the Browns. You're always scared of the Browns. You

799
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: thought there was no way they were winning that game

800
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, well you said it was gonna be

801
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: a two score wins. So yeah, it was two field

802
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: goals to us. I was correct to score. You're out

803
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: of control, I mean, and let's let's also give Lamar

804
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: his credit for what he's doing on the ground. I mean,

805
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it's it's harder for all

806
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens kind of trickery and like the what makes

807
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: this offense tough with the r P O s and

808
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Lamar and not knowing whether he's gonna run or throw.

809
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: You know that stuff is really hard to handle in

810
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: second and five. When you know he's got to throw

811
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: most likely in second and ten or whatever, then it's

812
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot easier to bottle up. But he's still running

813
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: in those situations, and so I give him credit. You know,

814
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: seventeen runs for sixty eight yards last night, Like, those

815
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: are big plays for this offense. Some of his runs

816
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: were really big plays. Um, so I don't want to

817
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: take away even though he had a tough night throwing

818
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: on the ball, like, he's still running the ball a

819
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: lot and and making things happen. I mean against Minnesota. Yeah,

820
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: no joke, you know, So give Lamar credit for making

821
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: some of those plays. Also, the last guy we're gonna

822
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: give credit to here is Mark Andrews, who is a

823
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: boss with the capital be a capital and capitals. I

824
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: mean this guy, I said to you in the press

825
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: box after the Browns, I think it was their second

826
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: interception they got. It was the back to back throws

827
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: by Lamar. Both picked the second one. They ran everybody.

828
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: They ran, the trainers, the water boys, everybody ran off

829
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: the Browns bench to the end zone. And we're just

830
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: flexing and like looking up at the crowd and kind

831
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: of taunting the Ravens fans in the end zone. They

832
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: had fifty people back there. And Mark Andrews walking off

833
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: the field, He's kind of looking at it. And I

834
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: said to you, I said, Mark is piste. But did

835
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: you realize all four interceptions were on Mark targets? And Mark? Yes, yes,

836
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: because you know, and you know it's kind of funny

837
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: about that is because early in the game of the

838
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: offense was not doing particularly well. You and I said

839
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: to each other, just throw it to Mark every single time.

840
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens when you throw to

841
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Mark ten straight times. And I said, how, at what

842
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: point of that sequence does it get picked off? Well

843
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: we found out, um, but I'll tell you. But the

844
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: great thing about Lamar and Mark is they keep plugging

845
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: away man and and made the Mark with the dunculus

846
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: one handed catch despite the defensive pass interference, just scooping that.

847
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that might be the catch of the year

848
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: so far that in Hollywood. Hollywood has had a couple,

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Speaker 1: yeah that are insane, but that Mark one is tough

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Speaker 1: he was to to coin Ray Lewis. Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not coining anything here. I just been said a lot

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Speaker 1: of times. But Mark Andrews was piste off for greatness.

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Speaker 1: He was. You could see it. I mean when he

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Speaker 1: when he caught that ball with one hand, he throws

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Speaker 1: the ball up in the air and then he scored

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Speaker 1: the touchdown a couple of plays later, and he tossed

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Speaker 1: that one up and he was basically like, give me

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Speaker 1: the ball, give me the ball. I'm gonna make something happen.

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Speaker 1: And he did, and uh, you know, he didn't like

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Speaker 1: those guys celebrating on their field. But like you said,

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Speaker 1: after the game, we got the dub. It's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: So guys, guys one of the best in the game,

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Speaker 1: and uh, he continues to play like it. Yep. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. We'll be back to you later this

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Speaker 1: week with a guest, maybe Tibo, maybe somebody else will see.

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Speaker 1: As always, you can, uh you can make some suggestions

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Speaker 1: and reach out to us at the lounge at Ravens

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Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. We'll be back with you later

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Speaker 1: this week.