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Speaker 3: All right, listener live on a Tuesday edition in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the great

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Speaker 3: ze I got. I was in such a good mood.

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Speaker 3: Suns out, guns out, lovely winners over with big time

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Speaker 3: guns out. Good Lord, balls are gonna spike itself on

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Speaker 3: those things. But to see you in golf attire, the

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Speaker 3: masters zip is on. We've got a golf shirt. I

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Speaker 3: think it might be. I love the shade of blue

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Speaker 3: on it. I think the fit is great. You look

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Speaker 3: like you could step right on the first teat Augusta

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Speaker 3: right now, ready, and I love to bat.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to be doing that.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be something? Wouldn't what aren't the weather's like

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Speaker 3: down there right now?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 3: That be good? Yeah, we're good though, We're good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we haven't had the rain.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm guessing people are chasing the small ball today.

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Speaker 4: I would hope. So I know some people who chase

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Speaker 4: the small ball around a little bit yesterday and and

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Speaker 4: and a few of today. It's hard to keep the

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Speaker 4: ball from being subterranean. It's still. It's there's too, it's set.

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Speaker 3: We had snow, it's frozen, yeah, and then it had

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Speaker 3: all the rain and then the snow's sitting on it

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Speaker 3: for a month and a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's mush brother, it's mushball. Yeah, mushballs. So

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Speaker 4: you hit a drive, thing goes like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I hope. I'm hoping by this weekend though,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you this report of rain on are we

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Speaker 4: what are we looking at? Not allowed? Not allowed? You

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Speaker 4: can't rain on this Saturday.

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Speaker 5: So give me eighty five and sunny where I'm going.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it is.

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Speaker 4: Getting another vacation from where are you going now? There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of vacations baby.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, so Friday night, be back Tuesday, good for you?

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Speaker 3: Give me, hey sixty.

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Speaker 4: One, you're every other week a second second every other week. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you've got other I'm going to spring break with the children,

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Speaker 4: which we have to get to do that. And I

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Speaker 4: have one thing in April for two what three days,

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Speaker 5: Everything I've done it sounds like every other month.

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Speaker 3: Really, I'm not going to begrudge either one of you. Well,

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Speaker 3: you haven't had a day off since I don't don't know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes remember it's been a minute. But wait, look I

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Speaker 3: got vacation, Kevin. Well, exactly, here's what you're looking at.

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Speaker 3: Sixty one today, okay, forty eight tomorrow on first Friday.

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Speaker 3: So a big step back here. It's actually going to

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Speaker 3: fall as the days going today, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: in the forties by like five o'clock here. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: that was something that on Sunday was not in the

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Speaker 3: This is the great friends at ACU weather then sixty

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Speaker 3: five Thursday seven, Friday is the day. Friday's the day victory,

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Speaker 3: Friday victory.

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Speaker 5: Fately we may have commitments.

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Speaker 4: Oh I don't think so. I think commitment Thursday, commitment Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Thursday three Friday.

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Speaker 3: You know for Thursday, society at large, this was possible.

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Speaker 4: I think I got the black Oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, NBC tried that last night at dinner exactly

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Speaker 3: that NBC day. Yeah, oh yeah, he's done at a

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Speaker 3: thousand times. NBC tried it last night at dinner because

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Speaker 3: apparently today they had to put like their chromebooks. It

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Speaker 3: was like reading day. They have like a guest reader

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Speaker 3: come in and then they're just gonna read all days,

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Speaker 3: like it's gonna suck. Is seventh grade?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't. He know how to read.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: Why do you need celebrity readers in seventh grade?

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Speaker 3: So we're at dinner. We're at dinner and he's and

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Speaker 3: he's he's sitting there. My wife had a lax fast meeting,

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Speaker 3: going like this, And I'm like, I go, what's your deal?

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel well? I said, Is it your stomach? No,

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Speaker 3: like hmm. Interesting. So we continue to have dinner. Then

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Speaker 3: his cell phone buzzes and I don't allow those at

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Speaker 3: was a grand scheme that all of them were gonna

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Speaker 3: try to take today off, like all of his friend group,

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Speaker 3: We're going to try.

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Speaker 4: To fake it.

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Speaker 3: Did two pulled it off? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Two pulled through. But he did not tell me he

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Speaker 4: needs to go figure out their methods because.

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Speaker 3: All he's got to do is go to the boots.

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Speaker 4: But he's got an aste.

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Speaker 3: That's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 4: He's at his cus Bootsy though, now that he's a teen.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, it's changing. Yeah, you see

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Speaker 3: through all of it. Yeah, Bootsy's times running out. I

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Speaker 3: mean that'll bite your spirit edible. You know it's going

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Speaker 3: to be great is little Zog's is going to be

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Speaker 3: ready to ascend right as Bootsy becomes awkward. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that's going to be the that'll be the sweet spot.

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Speaker 3: He'll be ready to go. He'll be ready, he'll be ready.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, oh, what I was going to say, be nice

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Speaker 3: if like in in like workforce, if you could just

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Speaker 3: pick like ten fridays with no notice, Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 3: we're out, We're good.

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Speaker 4: That would be well, we've already gone through We've got

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Speaker 4: you know, last year there was the series that swept

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Speaker 4: the nation.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves Magical Friday, Magical Magical season.

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Speaker 4: What we've decided we're going to do is we're going

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Speaker 4: to do the three wins from this season. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: then we'll relive our favorite Flacco moments.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: And then I think what we should do is also, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, in light of the news, we should do

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Speaker 4: at go, we should do a series of Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: comes up with wins. Oh, and we do a series

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Speaker 4: of those. For uh, we'll do four? Well pick four?

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Speaker 3: Who was your your little buddy? He was a pit guy?

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Speaker 3: Can't we get him? Who's the kid? Wasn't one of

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Speaker 3: your little buddies a pit guy?

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Speaker 5: It was a little buddy Anerella talking about Nolla.

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Speaker 3: But your other post Stevie Connor. Didn't that kid go

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Speaker 3: to pitt or have like a pit connection or something?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah, I didn't really listen much when he did.

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Speaker 3: All right, you bet you hit on it. Well, we

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Speaker 3: got the g man, like, look at this kid, do

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Speaker 3: we can do anything? He wants?

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Speaker 4: The man for life, So such a gift.

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Speaker 3: The Browns have reportedly acquired former Seiler's first round quarterback

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett in a trade with the Eagles. Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 3: gonna come here, Dorian Thompson Robinson and a twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five to fifth is good to go to Philly. The

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Speaker 3: exchange for Sadarius Smith. So there is the reported trade.

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Speaker 3: This won't be official until tomorrow, but that has been

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Speaker 3: what has been widely reported. Your thoughts, sir, I.

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Speaker 4: Think part of obviously, when you're talking with Miles, he said, look,

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Speaker 4: we're going to bring in a super Bowl champion he

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Speaker 4: to end the Super Bowl. Fact he did, and now

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Speaker 4: he's a Cleveland Brown. I also am going to hit

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Speaker 4: you with a bit of knowledge that I don't know

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Speaker 4: how you'll take it.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 4: What is he doing?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Just do your bit.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: It's not a bit.

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Speaker 3: I just do your thing.

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Speaker 4: I just go ahead. Since I've been with the Browns,

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Speaker 4: the year was twenty thirteen quarterbacks that year where Brandon

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Speaker 4: Weed and Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer. Yep. Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 4: career winning percentage of sixty percent. He's fifteen and ten

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Speaker 4: as a starter yep is the best of any quarterback

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Speaker 4: that has played for the Cleveland Browns during my time.

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Speaker 3: Here, best in their career or best while they played here.

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Speaker 4: Well, he has not yet played here, so he'd be

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Speaker 4: zero and zero. I'm saying he has the best career

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Speaker 4: winning percentage of any quarterback. Joe Flacco one oh five

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Speaker 4: and eighty six fifty five percent, and that was actually buoyed,

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Speaker 4: So the only two, the only two that are over

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Speaker 4: fifty percent and have won a Super Bowl are Kenny

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Speaker 4: Pickett and Joe Flacco. Nobody else is even close to

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Speaker 4: fifty percent save four's bake to Rod Taylor is twenty

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Speaker 4: eight and twenty eight, right on it, Bake is fifty

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Speaker 4: Keenum is thirty and thirty six?

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Speaker 3: I would not have had him having sixty six starts.

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson thirty seven and thirty five. So the only

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Speaker 4: three quarterbacks that have quarterbacked for the Cleveland Browns in

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Speaker 4: the entirety of my time here, we're talking twenty two

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Speaker 4: to twenty three quarterbacks, Yeah, that have winning records for

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Speaker 4: their career are Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, and Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 4: is that is the list. The only ones at fifty

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Speaker 4: he is the winningest quarter barack that we've had that

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Speaker 4: we have had on our roster since I have been

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Speaker 3: Here's what I would say, which is pretty stupefying. But

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Speaker 3: also I think the other thing to me is this

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Speaker 3: is very much in line with the type of acquisition

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Speaker 3: that Andrew Berry has done. Whereas you take a guy

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Speaker 3: who high pedigree guy, former first round pick, it hasn't

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Speaker 3: worked for whatever reason as he's bounced around. Let's see

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Speaker 3: if we can find something here. And the best example

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Speaker 3: Jerry judyuo is a guy who had he didn't reach

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Speaker 3: full potential in Denver. You can get him, you bring

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Speaker 3: succeed and it works. Now we also brought in Josh

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Speaker 3: But it's a minimal give up for a guy who

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Speaker 3: three years ago was a first round pick, a guy

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Speaker 3: who's played a lot of quarterback in the league. And

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Speaker 3: I also think you have to remember this is a

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Speaker 3: complete quarterback room makeover from I mean now entirely. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's gonna be three new faces in this room,

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Speaker 3: at least four new faces by the time you start camp.

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Speaker 3: Now with dtr gone, that's a lock, So that's minimal,

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Speaker 3: so you have to rebuild the entire I do not

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Speaker 3: think this is the end of the line for us

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Speaker 3: And let's be fair, there might not be a splash.

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Speaker 4: That has to happen at pick number two. Whoa, And

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Speaker 4: no matter what, No matter what, if they trade him,

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Speaker 3: Furthermore, they're compensating him. They have a quarterback who is

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you have.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's monks strap Monk strap On a

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Speaker 4: In in the league. Yep, yep. That is exactly where

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Speaker 4: And then are you hoping that Kenny Pickett becomes that solution,

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Speaker 4: They're not out of the league.

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Speaker 3: And Caroline and they're starting. And Carolina's answer to it was,

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Speaker 4: Do you think, not playing Devil's advocate, but do you

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Speaker 3: Of course not. Maybe Tampa. They're behaving that way, behave

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Speaker 4: To me, what's weird about that is, at least I

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Speaker 4: It feels like we are seeing a return of an

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Speaker 4: it's fun for our fans and it's better for business

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00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 4: that way. Now, those teams are every bit as far

436
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: away from winning a super Bowl as the teams that

437
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 4: are on the bottom. In fact, you could make the

438
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: argument they might be farther because of the investments that

439
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: they're making into certain positions. Yeah, but they're relevant football teams. Yeah,

440
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 4: and so we saw it felt like a going away

441
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: from this, Yes, and it does feel like with some

442
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 4: of the actions we've seen it's back to it. I

443
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 4: would still say like Minnesota had Sam Darnold and is like,

444
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 4: now we're good, they may go and sign Aaron Rodgers. Still,

445
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 4: that's what now, it's all the fact that he has

446
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 4: been the Steelers yet now they're saying the vikings and

447
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell has the final say on it, and he

448
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: might want to go that way. It does feel like

449
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: there is a return to kind of this. Okay, let's

450
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 4: just like hang around and be good and let's think.

451
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Speaker 3: It's an incredible observation under you. As soon as you

452
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: started with it, I knew where you were going, and

453
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think think what we've learned

454
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: over almost a decade of hey, let's go to the bottom, right,

455
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: Let's try to get to the bottom and be able

456
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: to draft our quarterback at number one overall, is that

457
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: guess what, there are no sure things, no at quarterback.

458
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: So when you go to the bottom, you can do

459
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: everything right and you can be pick number one or

460
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: pick two, pick three, whatever, and it might not work.

461
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: There are no sheer things at quarterback. And what I

462
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: think we realize I remember this with you and I

463
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: first started doing the show with you, and we talked

464
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 3: about one in thirty one. One in thirty one is painful.

465
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard on an organization, it's hard on

466
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: a roster, it's hard on a fan base. In the end,

467
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: this is heavy stuff. Where don't I didn't know whe're

468
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: gonna get this, but it kind of just the truth

469
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: of it in the end, what fans want, Yes, they

470
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: want to win a super Bowl, but they also want

471
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: success on Sundays until they don't, until they don't. And yeah,

472
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: there's a tipping point. Pittsburgh's there. They're there. But if

473
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: you think of there since Andy was there, re Dalton like, man,

474
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: I can't do this anymore. There's a ceiling we're hitting

475
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 3: our heads up against. We can't. We can't win a

476
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: super Bowl, these guys. But if you think to even

477
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: go back to the end of last season, you and

478
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: I from our perspective, from a roster building perspective, would say,

479
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: and we're rooting for us to win because we love

480
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: the team and all of that, But we're also saying like,

481
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: as the loss is stack, this is better for us

482
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: in the future. We weren't going to make the playoffs anyway,

483
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: but just human nature, you're saying, well, the higher we pick,

484
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: the better. If you went to Huntington Bankfield and you

485
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: went down there in those games where it would have

486
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: behooved in us to lose, the fans are cheering like

487
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: crazy to win. They don't want to lose. When you're

488
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: in the moment, you don't want to lose. When you're invested,

489
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: you don't want to lose. And I think it's I

490
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: think you're right, and I think the amount of pain

491
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: it takes to go to the bo I'm without there

492
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: being a sure thing. I think what is what you're

493
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: saying is truth. It's bad for business, it's bad from around,

494
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: it's bad for fan base, it's all of it. And

495
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: seven and ten is better than the gamble of going

496
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: all the way to the bottom. I think that you're true.

497
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: I think you got it. I think it is. I

498
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: just don't necessarily agree with it.

499
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Speaker 4: I just don't see where I'm just go through a

500
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 4: Browns lens. Then if not, now, when do you get

501
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: that opportunity at a quarterback. And I just think the

502
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: notion that any year everybody's mad that you gave up

503
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: a bunch of assets for Sean Watson and it did

504
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: not work out. If you're going to want to move

505
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Speaker 4: up for a quarterback, if you do go seven and

506
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 4: ten or eight and nine or nine and eight or

507
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: ten and seven, where are you getting the quarterback in

508
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: the draft? And by the way, if you move up

509
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: to get them, you're giving up three ones again, like

510
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to take one at least right now.

511
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: And to me, the downside of that rookie not working

512
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: out is it at least you probably get another low

513
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: cost swing at it next year. So it definitely feels

514
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 4: though there is a one middle classification of the NFL

515
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: happening right now. And I still think it's almost It

516
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: kind of keeps the people at the top at the top. Really,

517
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 4: it really does. Yeah, I mean look at you, look

518
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: at right now who and some teams have made moves

519
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: to tell you that they they believe AFC Okay, Buffalo,

520
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: Kansas City, Baltimore, Houston fully believes they're doing whatever they can,

521
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: I think believes, but maybe they have some work to do.

522
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: Would be Cincinnati. Right, they're gonna believe as long as

523
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: they've got Joe Burrow. Yeah, Okay, NFC right now fully

524
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: believes that they can do it. You've got Philly, You've

525
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: got the Rams. I think you've got Washington, Detroit, Detroit,

526
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: Green Bay, Green Bay, Minnesota is acting the way that

527
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: they are acting one hundred percent like they're in and

528
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Speaker 4: I would say that Tampa is acting as though they can.

529
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that they can, but they're acting like

530
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 4: they can. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.

531
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Speaker 4: That's twelve of thirty two teams. Okay. Now the reality

532
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: is in what I would call this middle class. The

533
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: Niners I would always have in this list, but they

534
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: just seem to be decimated and they've got some contract issues.

535
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: They transition, they seem so I'd still put them in

536
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: the middle class. They're not botting me out, no way.

537
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: So middle class in the AFC right now, I would say,

538
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: you've got and then hold on future QB on the rise.

539
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: I think there's four classes and then there is like

540
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: bottom yep. So right now middle class in the AFC

541
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: will go by division would be New England goes in

542
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: future quarterback on the rise, Miami's in the middle class. Jets.

543
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Jets are bottom right now.

544
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: I think they are bottom right now. But they brought

545
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: Fields to try to maybe like get to the middle

546
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: class or hope that they're in the future. Quarterback on

547
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: the rise.

548
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: Fields is the lottery ticket. Yes, if it hits, then

549
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: maybe you don't. Maybe you can pivot, you can hit

550
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: a break and he the talent is realized. Yes, it's

551
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: a swinging on a lottery ticket.

552
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. Nf AFC our Division. I think Pittsburgh

553
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: right now is trying to be in the middle class.

554
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I think if they get Rogers, they think they would

555
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: be up. But I'm with you.

556
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: I think they're middle class. I think right now what

557
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: we're aspiring to be in this season is middle class.

558
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: If we were to get if we get Kirk Cousins,

559
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: that's what that says to me. AFC West, We've got

560
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: hold on. The Chargers believe they're Super Bowl champions. Denver

561
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 4: does as well. All right, so that ups that and

562
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: then the Raiders are bottom.

563
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: I think middle class. You're right there. The personification what

564
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: we're talking about.

565
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: Huh, let's be in middle Yeah, Okay, like we gotta

566
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: win some games, all right. And then we've got a

567
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: FC South Tennessee's bottom. Indya is middle class.

568
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Houston and Houston thinks.

569
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: That they can win in Jacksonvill's middle class, their middle

570
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 4: class with Yeah, NFC East Dallas right now probably thinks

571
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: they can win.

572
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, but they probably do.

573
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, or their middle class. Yeah, all right, Giants are bottom.

574
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: Eagles can wins.

575
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: Can Washington can win? All right? Then you go to

576
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: the North Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota. We all have there,

577
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: and I think Chicago believes it's future quarterback on the rise.

578
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: NFC West Rams are up here, Arizona's in the middle class,

579
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: Niners are in the middle class, Seattle is in the

580
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: middle class.

581
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: The personification and what we're talking about.

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: And then you've got the NFC South Tampa. We have

583
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: up here, New Orleans with dere carrs middle class. Carolina's

584
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: future is quarterback on the rise, and Atlantis probably on

585
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: the quarterback on the rise. Yeah. So you really have

586
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: right now. And I think there are a lot of

587
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: people were with the Browns that would put us in

588
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: this bottom list. So let's just say we're there. You

589
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: have four teams in that list right now in a

590
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: one quarterback draft, two quarterback draft, you still have Aaron

591
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: Rodgers Russell Wilson out there. The future quarterback on the

592
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: Rise crew is good. You know, Denver could really probably

593
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: fit in this category more than super Bowl. But they're acting,

594
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: they're making their being aggressive. You actually have more teams

595
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: now one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine

596
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: in the middle class and in the future quarterback on

597
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: the rise in the bottom.

598
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: That was not the case, was.

599
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: Not the case. It used to this to be like zero,

600
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: and you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

601
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen. If you're being

602
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: loose with the definition, half of the league really thinks

603
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: they can win the super Bowl right now? Yep, half

604
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: of it. Half of it and then the next we

605
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: said nine here, So that means seventy five percent of

606
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: the league now thinks they can win the Super Bowl

607
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: or is in the middle class. The future quarterback on

608
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: the Rise team probably think that they're of that ILK

609
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: as well, like in the reality they're not bottom. So

610
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: that's another four. So really you think twenty eight of

611
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: the thirty two teams think that they're content being perennial.

612
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: We'll call it seven to ten wins, and best case

613
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: scenario is one playoff win and then bounced. And obviously

614
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: not all these teams are going to realize what they

615
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: think they are. But we're talking about just operations. These

616
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: four quarterback teams certainly think they can get our you know,

617
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: Chicago definitely thinks they can get to the playoffs. I

618
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: bet Carolina does. The way Brycing finished season Atlanta, that

619
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 4: division's kind of open now now you have you may

620
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: have four competitive teams in that division. It's really the

621
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: bottom are the only ones that you know, you don't

622
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: really know or see what it is. So in some level,

623
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: if that's the case, it's just it's the pain. The

624
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: truth is, if let's just say that, you know, there

625
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: are people that the worst quarterback class, it's Kenny Pickett,

626
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: who's now bron Yeah, it wouldn't be that hard to

627
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: stay here. You get to swing at a quarterback. It

628
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 4: works out great. Now you're moving up a tier, it

629
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: doesn't work out. It's not gonna be that hard to

630
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: stay here.

631
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

632
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: It's easier to stay down here than maybe ever before.

633
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could get a lot, but that is.

634
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: But that's pain. And that's also now saying I'm only

635
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: one of what four teams? That stinks yea, and nobody

636
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: wants that. No, And by the way, if Rogers ends

637
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: up with the Giant, if Rogers ends up with any

638
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: one of these teams, they're not bottom the way that

639
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: the Jets paid justin Fields. Honestly, they feel like they're

640
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: a future quarterback on the rising. They pay them twenty

641
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: million dollars.

642
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah they did, yep.

643
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: So I mean you could even make the case that's

644
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: just the three Tennessee one two in the draft yep. Yeah.

645
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: Now that is a total change.

646
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: That's that's a seismic change in the way that the

647
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: NFL had been doing business for a decade.

648
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: It's just not fun not to win, and and it

649
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Speaker 4: there's a pound of flesh with it too huge. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, two years ago we were we won

651
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Speaker 4: eleven games and went to the playoffs. But you don't

652
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Speaker 4: first of all, a lot of the principles obviously have changed.

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Speaker 4: Second of all, you don't get the the goodwill of

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Speaker 4: that does not carry on, you know, Pedro saying that

655
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Speaker 4: in the Bay Area they're furious right now is a

656
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Speaker 4: team you know that was a perennial. Was in the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl two years ago. Super Bowl too.

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Speaker 5: Years They just released Leonard Floyd too, who.

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Speaker 4: Did forty Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: There they are a young quarterback on the rise. That's

661
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: what they are paid party, That's what they're gonna be.

662
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna be young quarterback on the rise.

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Speaker 4: Still got Nick Bosa and Kittle and I bet I'll

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Speaker 4: have some real talent.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 3: But they got a lot of they've transitioned from. Now

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00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: we get pay all these guys roster. Yeah, all right,

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00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff we got to get to

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Speaker 3: on our roster as well. We will get to that

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Speaker 3: Before we get to some of the other things going around,

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Speaker 3: of I just want to piggyback off a conversation you'd ask, well,

683
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Speaker 3: how do you get those quarterbacks? I just was going

684
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Speaker 3: through this of the that list you made as you

685
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: were making the list of contenders or quarterbacks on the rise,

686
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: Contenders are quarterbacks on the rise, and even most of

687
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: that middle class. There are only three quarterbacks that were

688
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: not first round picks. It's Dak, Jalen and Purdy. Jalen's

689
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: a second round guy. Good scouting out of them. They

690
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: built a system around him and his self belief and

691
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: growth was real and it's manifested. A super Bowl champion.

692
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: Dak was a mid round pick. How many playoff wins

693
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Speaker 3: for Dak Prescott two.

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Speaker 4: And one playoff games in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: But I think we nice shot out of you. But

696
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: still I think we'd all consider him a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Dak and Brock Perdy is just peer dumb luck last

698
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: pick in the draft. Everybody get had him in a

699
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: draft where they gave up a Ton to get Trey

700
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: Lance perty falls in with the very last pick. So

701
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: to answer the question, to get the quarterback to be

702
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: in the first group, you got to draft him in

703
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: the first round.

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00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: Here's the whole. I'll take it a step further. Buffalo

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00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: first round, kan City first round, Baltimore first round, Houston

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00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: first round, Charges first round, Bengals first round, Broncos first round,

707
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: Philly second round, Rams first round, Washing first round, Detroit

708
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: first round, Green Bay first round, Minnesota first round, Tampa

709
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: Bay first round, Dallas fourth round, middle class, Miami first round, Pittsburgh.

710
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: We just don't know who their quarterbacks is going to be.

711
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 4: We have a question mark there, but you're assuming Aaron Rodgers.

712
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 4: It's Rogers first round. Brown's not sure or we don't

713
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: know yet. Vegas is a first rounder. Did you with

714
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: no second? Second, early second, early second, early second, Indy

715
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: first rounder. They have two shots at that Jacksonville first rounder,

716
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 4: Arizona first rounder, Seattle first rounder, New Orleans second rounder,

717
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: Cars the second rounder. Future quarterbacks on the rise, number

718
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 4: three overall, number one overall, number one overall, number eight overall,

719
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Speaker 4: and then the bottom is you don't have by the

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Speaker 4: way the Jets do not have Jets now have a

721
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: first rounder, though if they really are on the rise,

722
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Speaker 4: that's a first rounder. Tennessee does not have a first rounder.

723
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Speaker 4: The Giants do not have a first rounder. We have

724
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Speaker 4: a first round. I guess I suppose if you say

725
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Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett, but I don't believe that you're calling the starter.

726
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: That's that's that's it. That's all league. So the Niners,

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 4: where are the Niners? I put them?

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Speaker 3: Maybe I fascinated between quarterback on the rise, middle class,

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00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 4: So Niners middle class. That's a seventh, that is the outlier.

731
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: So in the just middle class or the top, there

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Speaker 4: are three. There are four teams, five teams that have

733
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Speaker 4: a second rounder or later. At quarterback five you have two.

734
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: You have three seconds, a fourth, and a seventh, which

735
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: is dumb luck, to be honest about it, Dak in

736
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Speaker 4: some ways it is too And you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, fifteen, sixteen, eighteen,

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Speaker 4: eighteen of them are.

738
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Speaker 3: First round pick and four in the quarterback on the riser.

739
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: All they're all first round.

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Speaker 4: So that's twenty two, and they're all top ten pick.

741
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: They're all top ten.

742
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: So these are all, top ten, Buffalo top ten, Kansas

743
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: City is top ten, Baltimore no Houston top ten, Chargers

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00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: top ten, since an a top ten, Denver no right

745
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 4: was nixt twelfth.

746
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: He's right on it.

747
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: Outside Rams number one, Washing number two, Detroit number one,

748
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: Green Bay not top ten. With love Minnesota McCarthy was

749
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: right around.

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Speaker 3: He was in the top ten, top ten. Wasn't he

751
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: seven or eight or something?

752
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's number one overall?

753
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Speaker 3: Well, he went before Penix, Miami Is he did, Yeah

754
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 3: to Penis went eight.

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: Miami was number six overall. I want to say Indy

756
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: was top ten, Jacksonville number one overall, Arizona number one overall,

757
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 4: Seattle number two overall, and then you have a three overall,

758
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Speaker 4: a one overall, a one overall, and eight overall. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and Fields was what.

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Speaker 3: Fields top top ten for ten?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's it. And there are some people,

762
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: you know, it hasn't necessarily worked out with a team

763
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: that draft them. That is also that's fair. But there

764
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Speaker 4: is something about that talent and that pedigree that certainly

765
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: has manifested itself in the National Football League aain. If

766
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: you don't have quarterback, you can't win consistently, and now

767
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: the question is do you want to be middling? I

768
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: guess that's the new question.

769
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 3: That is the new question.

770
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: Do you want to be middling or do you want

771
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: to be a Super Bowl contender. We got a report

772
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: in right now from the Schultz Report. The Browns are

773
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: signing former buccaneer Joe Tryon Shoyinka to a one year,

774
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: four point seven million deal. The former first round pick

775
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: of the Bucks has recorded fifteen sacks in four NFL seasons,

776
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: so again small. So that says to me, perhaps you

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00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: release Obo O Kuranquo save a little bit of money there.

778
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: He's a thirty second pick in the twenty twenty one

779
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 4: NFL draft. They did not pick up his fifth year option,

780
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 4: and he is coming off of a career low two

781
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: sacks last year. His career high was five sacks and

782
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three he is uh six' five two fifty.

783
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Speaker 4: Nine so that would my guests, there that means That

784
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Speaker 4: obo would go and you would replace him With Tryon,

785
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: shanka and you would Have Miles Alex, Wright isaiah McGuire

786
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Speaker 4: who played very well down the, stretch And Joe Tryin

787
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Speaker 4: shanka would be your your four Dear.

788
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Speaker 3: Yeah some other. Business The browns reportedly agreed to terms

789
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: On commander's offensive Tackle Cornelius, lucas on a two year

790
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: contract worth ten million bucks six eight three twenty. Eight

791
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: originally undrafted out Of Kansas state at thirty, three spent

792
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: time With, Washington, Detroit, Chicago New orleans and The. Rams

793
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: this would just Be hudson out him in swing.

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00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: Tack, yeah swing. Tackle not a bad swing tackle, either

795
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Speaker 4: started on both. Sides at the, value it is not

796
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: a bad. Value. YEAH i think it's solid. Signing good run,

797
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: blocker solid pass, blocker good swing. Tackle insurance for if

798
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: anything you, know happens with dwand or With.

799
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: Jack conklin also reportedly informed defensive Tackle Dalvin tomlinson that

800
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: he will be released at the start of the new league.

801
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: Year Per, Schefty tomlinson has been designated as a Post

802
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: june one. Release he'll be free to sign with a

803
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: new team at the start of the new league year

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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: tomorrow at. Four brown's current defensive tackle Room mike Called Junior, Shelby,

805
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: Harris Sam, Kamara Juwan briggs And dumfower are your guys,

806
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 3: There so that's your room. There on the defensive front.

807
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: Reportedly you, KNOW i. Am i'm a little, surprised to

808
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Speaker 4: be honest with, you About. DALVIN i don't really quite

809
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: understand that. ONE i, think like if we were talking

810
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: yesterday about, it there are reports of The. Browns you,

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Speaker 4: know we're linked To, hargrave but he's now going To.

812
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: MINNESOTA i, mean they Got, Hargrave Ann. Allen they just

813
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: completely remade their defense. Tackles SO i don't really know

814
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: what that means that we're going to do in that.

815
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: Room Mike hall is certainly an as sending, player AND

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Speaker 4: i think is going to be a. Superstar but that

817
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Speaker 4: room is interesting to. Me you shall, be you've got.

818
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: Him it's not that was a room where it's, like oh,

819
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: man we almost have too many guys a year. Ago,

820
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: yeah and you know they Like Jowan. BRIGGS i think

821
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: he showed, plenty but you need another dude in. THERE

822
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: i think maybe you're drafting one again earlier than people maybe.

823
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: Think we'll.

824
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: See so to the quarterback conversation and where we sit

825
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: on that right, now we have one, quarterback Reportedly Kenny.

826
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: Pickett. Ye by the, Way Kenny pickett started against dtr

827
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: and The jim's return to the. Booth OH dfr beat

828
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Speaker 4: him here In, cleveland that's, right and they get swapped

829
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Speaker 4: for one. Another, yeah, yeah that is.

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00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: WILD dtr was a good kid, MAN i still. IS

831
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: i liked, Him, YES i wish him.

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Speaker 4: WELL i hope that that maybe that system will fit

833
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: him a little bit better AND i like. Him hopefully

834
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: he can be their. BACKUP i really have always been a,

835
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 4: big BIG dtr. Guy definitely to not work out on

836
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: the field in. Games you, know obviously it was very. Good,

837
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: practice was excellent in the, preseason just never worked out

838
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: the way that, perhaps you, know we thought it was

839
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: going to on the field in. Games and hopefully this

840
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: will this will help him.

841
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: Out so in terms of the team still out there

842
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: that need a starting, Quarterback, Steelers, GIANTS Us, titans unless

843
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: The titans want to Go, LEVIS i, Mean levis was

844
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: a second round pick a couple of years. Ago you,

845
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: know they they could HE'S i guess he was their

846
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 3: starter last, year so THAT i don't know if they're

847
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: in it seems like the momentum is that they're going

848
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: to go quarterback number one now based on what they,

849
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: did but we don't know. That it's a lot of

850
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: it's a lot of hearsay right, now and it's a

851
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: lot of hypothesizing about what these teams could. Do the

852
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks still. Available Aaron rodgers is still, Available Russell wilson

853
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: is still, Available Joe flacco is still. Available in terms

854
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: of the pedigreed aging, quarterbacks those guys are, available they

855
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: are out. There you can sign, them, yes and then

856
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: you get into The Jamis, Winston Marcus, Mariota Carson, Wentz Jacoby.

857
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: Brissett that world is the next group that's still out

858
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: there to be signed as.

859
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: Well, yes it feels to me.

860
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Like rogers Is. Steelers AND i KNOW i saw the

861
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: same reporting you said About. Minnesota they loved.

862
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: McCarthy so McAfee is saying right, now McAfee is saying

863
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: that he Believes Aaron rodgers will make his decisions soon

864
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: and that that disc decision is good between The steelers

865
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 4: and The.

866
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: Giants that makes sense to. Me and if you're, him

867
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: unless you just want to not move, again and like

868
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: you just like The New york area as a place

869
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: to reside for eight months out of the, year you

870
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: don't want to move if He if winning, matters It's,

871
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: pittsburgh that's but the they win With he's going to

872
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: be an upgrade for what they've.

873
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: Been, listen the fact is you're, Right you're, right.

874
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: There's a ceiling on.

875
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: It but but Like, Philly washington is no picnic in

876
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: THE Nfc.

877
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: East that's my.

878
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: Point, yeah, no THERE'S.

879
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 3: I think the winning is easier In pittsburgh and can

880
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: come quicker In pittsburgh then it. Can their defense is

881
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: great right. Now they have two big time weapons on

882
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: the outside and they got they got good tight. Ends

883
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: they'll Go Jayalen warnick at. TAILBACK i think that's actually

884
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: better Than. Nagy so that's. Fine. Yep so, yeah to

885
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: me If i'm him AND i care about like trying

886
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: to go, out you, know trying to have some level

887
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: of success at the. End and, Honestly pittsburgh And Green

888
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: bay are a lot. Similar the towns. Aren't but just

889
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: in terms of like the tradition of, winning historic all of,

890
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: that it might be a decent bow on a, career you,

891
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 3: know probably not. Ideal i'm sure he wishes he could

892
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 3: have played for The rams If stafford would have been, Jetisoned,

893
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: yes that would have been a home. Run but that's

894
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: not going to be in. Play so of his options

895
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: if on the field, MATTERS i would think that it

896
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: would Be. Pittsburgh, Yeah and then does the do The

897
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: giants pivot To russ at that? Point and again this

898
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: IS i don't and none of this would preclude them

899
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: from taking a, Quarterback no at.

900
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: All i'm not sure that really anybody who acquired anybody

901
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: is precluder from taking a quarterback other THAN i just

902
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: don't Think seattle will at this. Point, yeah, YEAH i don't.

903
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah. Yeah that's where you're.

904
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: At that is where you're. At it's, again it's just

905
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: a very it's an interesting shift in the league, landscape

906
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: and it's an interest again for The. Browns the question,

907
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: is if you're punting on, this if you are not

908
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: taking a quarterback at, two are you hoping that somebody?

909
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: Falls are you hoping that your. Doors we've see in

910
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: some of these mocks that he does fall and then

911
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: you come back into the first round and get him.

912
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: Again that seems hard to. DO i don't. KNOW i

913
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: just don't know where You're if let's say we get,

914
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: cousins that's what we'll, say that's what people are saying. Wanting,

915
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: okay let's say let's let's say that is let's say

916
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: that is the plan that can you do? THAT i,

917
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: Mean i'm JUST i still don't know why they would

918
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: get rid of. HIM i feel like you would have

919
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: to trade for. Him what do you want to give

920
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: up for? HIM i don't know why you want to

921
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: give up. ANYTHING i, mean you're hoping that what you

922
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: saw last. Year you're hoping that what you saw last

923
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: year is indicative of a guy that just wasn't fully,

924
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: healthy because that was not good enough last year outside

925
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 4: of two games Against Tampa. Bay and by the, way

926
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: he's actually playing in a. Dome, NO i Like Kirk,

927
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: cousins don't get me.

928
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: Wrong oh we were. HUGE i mean we talked about

929
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: him In minnesota And Viking DAILY. Mbd, baby, yes, yeah high,

930
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: flying high, flying all of.

931
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: It and the weird thing now is like all these

932
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: new box Now, ever Since schefter, said you, Know i'm

933
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 4: not sure about The browns taking a. Quarterback it's Either

934
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: carter Or hunter and then should or goes, third.

935
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: Not always back to where we were at the compin, Right, yeah,

936
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah so that's the that's where you're, at and The

937
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: Rogers domino will be, next and then those this, well

938
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: who was It Charles davis who had quarterbacks going, one,

939
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: two three H. Yeah so you, know who. Knows but

940
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: one thing that we do know is we've had a

941
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: seismic shift in the way THAT nfl teams view themselves

942
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: and success that's.

943
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: Happened.

944
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: Yep that's a big departure from what the league has

945
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: been for almost a.

946
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 4: Decade.

947
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: Yep there's been a certain way that THE nfl has

948
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: gone about. It and you could identify five or six

949
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: teams every year who were going into it, saying, oh,

950
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: yeah they're playing For Trevor, lawrence they're playing For Caleb.

951
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: WILLINGS i also THINK i think that we're a part

952
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: of the reason for. THAT i really do think we

953
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 4: kind of started it about a decade ago and people are, saying,

954
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: okay so that's yielded a playoff win and a lot

955
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 4: of pain and unfortunately a lot of you, know at

956
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: times animus and lack of belief from the fan. Base,

957
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: yeah and you, know we're like in that right. Now

958
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: SO i do think there is there are teams that feel,

959
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: like think about the teams that are in this middle. Class,

960
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: Okay miami's coming off of a disappointed, season so they're,

961
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: like we let's figure that. Out arizona has not been

962
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: able to get over the. Hump seattle's, like we've been middle,

963
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: class let's try a different way to be middle. CLASS.

964
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 4: Yep New orleans when they're, healthy has been middle class

965
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: With Derek, carr for. Sure niners feel like middle class

966
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: is a step down for. Them it. Is jacksonville middle.

967
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 4: Class indy has been basically in that same record area

968
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: for a long. Time vegas, was you, know With garoppolo

969
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: and with Car that's where they. Were they tried to

970
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: get out of. That it has not worked at. All

971
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: so then now they go and, say let's Get, actually

972
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 4: that was more fun being middle class than. Not and

973
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 4: then you, know The, steelers the reality is that's they've

974
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: been stuck there for Since ben Since Ben, good not winning,

975
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: anything and they're they're tired of. It they're that's a

976
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 4: fan base that is tired of, it tired of middle. Class.

977
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Speaker 3: much for taking the. Time let's start with what you

993
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: are hearing at the quarterback position as The browns are. Concerned,

994
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: Obviously Kenny pickett reportedly yesterday. Acquired but now, what if,

995
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 3: anything what is? It what are you?

996
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 6: Hearing, Well i'm hearing that The browns really still will

997
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 6: keep looking in the veteran quarterback market and still hope

998
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 6: to land another, vet perhaps someone who could play that

999
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 6: bridge role come in and maybe start some games until

1000
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 6: your rookie is. Ready SO i think they have an

1001
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 6: eye towards doing, that and they're probably working on it

1002
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 6: as we, Speak.

1003
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: Mary, kay who would be some of the names you

1004
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: would think in that kind of another veteran bridge? Role

1005
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: can you pick? It he gives you another bite at

1006
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: the apple, right first round, pick twenty six years, old

1007
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: winning quarterback in this. League in, fact believe it or,

1008
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: not he has the best career winning percentage of any

1009
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: quarterback who is quarterback this football team Since i've been

1010
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: here in twenty. Thirteen but another veteran who are some

1011
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: of the names you're looking at? There?

1012
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 6: Well one of the ones THAT i wrote about yesterday

1013
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 6: Was Russell. WILSON i think that he's somebody that they

1014
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 6: should be taking a look. At in the event That

1015
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 6: Aaron rodgers signs with The, steelers russ would become. FREE

1016
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 6: i think he's someone that could come in here for

1017
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 6: you and accomplish that goal of starting in place of

1018
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: your rookie, Quarterback especially especially if The browns decide to

1019
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 6: go away from quarterback at number two in the draft

1020
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 6: and get one a little bit. Later you might need

1021
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 6: someone else to come in here and start half the,

1022
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 6: season or three quarters of the, season or even more

1023
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 6: than that if you go that. Route SO i think

1024
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: it's a fluid situation right. Now But russ is somebody

1025
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 6: That i'm intrigued. With Now Kirk, Cousins we've been hearing

1026
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 6: that name for months and. Months the problem With kirk

1027
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 6: is he's just not available yet and will he become.

1028
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 6: AVAILABLE i have been told that a person with knowledge

1029
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 6: of the situation said they don't believe that he will

1030
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 6: be traded or released before the. Draft NOW i don't

1031
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 6: know if that's entirely true or. Not you have to

1032
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 6: take a lot of what you hear at this time

1033
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 6: of year with a grain of, Salt so who knows

1034
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 6: what could happen. There but that's the way that it

1035
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 6: was put to, me that they don't think that anything

1036
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 6: could be imminent.

1037
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: There, well, YEAH i, mean the fact of the matter

1038
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 4: IS i think people are overlooking. It they're paying him

1039
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: thirty seven and a half to forty million dollars this,

1040
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: year whether he plays for them or, Not so you probably,

1041
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: say if you're the owner of that, team If i'm

1042
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: paying forty million, Dollars i'd like him to be here

1043
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: in the event That Michael pennix gets. Hurt SO i

1044
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: would be surprised if he becomes. Available it just DOESN'T

1045
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: i don't understand the get from the standpoint of The

1046
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: falcons on. It you Mentioned Russell. WILSON i think that'd

1047
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: be met with skepticism by a lot of, people since you,

1048
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: know that's his third team in three, years and it

1049
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: was two teams that were certainly quarterback needy In denver

1050
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: who now Has Bo, nicks and The steelers are now

1051
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: they're looking at somebody else go in another. Direction it

1052
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 4: appears at this moment if that, Happened, okay you Bring

1053
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: Russell wilson in, here you're saying if they brought in,

1054
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 4: rust does that make it less likely to they pick

1055
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: a quarterback at. Two you, KNOW i.

1056
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: Would still pick a quarterback at, two BUT i know

1057
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 6: that they also like other quarterbacks in this, Draft so

1058
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 6: maybe it would enable them or give them a little

1059
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 6: bit of breathing room to do something else that they like.

1060
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 6: There maybe that gives them the chance to take A

1061
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 6: Travis hunter and then come back and get A Jalen

1062
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 6: milrow or A Jackson dart. LATER i don't know if

1063
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 6: that would be part of their, strategy but certainly it

1064
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 6: might give you a little bit of breathing room. There

1065
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: BUT i would still go quarterback at number. Two even

1066
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 6: though it now sort of seems like Cam ward might

1067
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 6: end up going number one overall to The. TITANS i,

1068
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 6: mean if he's as good as everyone says that he,

1069
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 6: IS i certainly don't know why The titans would pass on.

1070
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 6: Him and if they don't want, HIM i could see

1071
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 6: somebody else jumping over The browns to get. Him so

1072
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: if The browns don't want feel That Shador sanders is their,

1073
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 6: Guy if for some reason they don't feel that, way

1074
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 6: then perhaps they could go another. Route but uh, AGAIN

1075
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 6: i don't know at this point if they would go

1076
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: away From chadoor at number two or. Not but this

1077
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 6: gives you a little bit of flexibility in the event.

1078
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: You want, to all, Right so just a couple of

1079
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: things on. That So, one if if lare is a

1080
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: scenario where it's Cam order, bust do you think the

1081
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: brown should trade to number?

1082
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 6: One, well once, AGAIN i would climb up. There BUT

1083
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 6: i think that if he is that, GOOD i cannot

1084
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: understand why The titans wouldn't just stay put and take him.

1085
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 6: THEMSELVES i, mean why would you do? That why would

1086
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 6: you pass on a quarterback that people are taught starting

1087
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: to talk about can be someone like one of the

1088
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 6: good rookies that we saw play last. Year So i'm

1089
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 6: not sure why they would do, that but, certainly if

1090
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 6: The titans are willing to, deal and The browns really

1091
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: like him that, MUCH i would toss my hat into that.

1092
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: Ring at this, point it seems unlikelyly to me that

1093
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 6: they would do, that BUT i certainly would give it a.

1094
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: Shot Mary, kay do you talk to your folks around the,

1095
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: league the contacts you. HAVE i, Mean I'm Daniel, Jones Gino,

1096
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: Smith Sam, Darnold Justin. Fields gino's going to get a new.

1097
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: Deal but the minimum salary any of those got was

1098
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: seventeen a year For Daniel. Jones is there a feeling

1099
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: around the lead that there is some surprise at the

1100
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: going rate for guys, who quite, honestly a year, ago

1101
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: every one of, them with the Exception, gino you could

1102
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: have had for a bucket of.

1103
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 6: Balls, yeah it's tough the way the quarterback market has

1104
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 6: been going. LATELY i, mean For Sam darnold to make

1105
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 6: thirty three and a half million, dollars who would have

1106
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: ever thought that before last? Season so there's been a

1107
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 6: renaissance in these quarterbacks coming up off the mat and

1108
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 6: going out and performing really well and winning football. Games

1109
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 6: you've Got Baker, Mayfield you've Got Geno, Smith you've Got Sam,

1110
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 6: Darnold Jared. GOFF i, mean it's just a vibe that's

1111
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: been happening over the last several years where you can

1112
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 6: throw these guys back out there and recycle them and

1113
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 6: get to the playoffs and win some. Football so we'll

1114
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 6: have to see how that. Goes but, yeah these guys

1115
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 6: are getting paid and it's pretty remarkable to watch what's.

1116
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: Happening Mary, kay you talked about a lot of those those,

1117
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and you, KNOW i would, say with the exception

1118
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 4: Of Jared, goff who's the one that's at least gotten

1119
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: to a championship. Game it feels like a lot of

1120
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: these moves are made to get for a team to

1121
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: be in, contention like you, said and maybe a re

1122
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 4: emerging middle class in THE nfl where teams are happy

1123
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: to go nine to, eight ten and seven and lose

1124
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 4: in the first round of the. Playoffs for a, while

1125
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: it didn't seem like teams were interested in. That now

1126
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: it seems like it. Does my question for, you, then

1127
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: with The browns is that the goal is to try

1128
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: to just you, Know spike another year like we did

1129
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: With Joe flacco with an old, Quarterback and if, so

1130
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 4: when are we getting a quarterback that can actually turn

1131
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: this franchise around and when are we taking a swing at?

1132
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 6: It, WELL i think you can look at The falcons

1133
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 6: as perhaps an example of what The browns could possibly.

1134
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 6: Do they ended up With Kirk. Cousins they paid him

1135
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 6: a ton of, money more than The browns can pay

1136
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 6: a bridge quarterback this. Year but they paid him a

1137
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: ton of money and they still went out and Drafted

1138
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 6: Michael pennox at number eight over all their quarterback in the.

1139
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 6: Future The browns absolutely have to be looking for THEIR

1140
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 6: qb of the. Future the problem is this is not

1141
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 6: supposedly a great year for, quarterbacks so there isn't that

1142
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 6: clear cut you, know four or five guys that you

1143
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 6: think can come, in like there were last year six

1144
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 6: guys that started at rookies as. Rookies SO i just

1145
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 6: don't know if they truly believe that they can get

1146
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 6: one of those guys at number. Two but if they

1147
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 6: even think they, Can i'm pulling the trigger. THERE i,

1148
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 6: remember back When Gino smith was coming, OUT i wrote

1149
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 6: a column saying that The brown should absolutely one percent

1150
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 6: take him at number eight overall that year in twenty,

1151
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 6: thirteen build the team around him and see what he could.

1152
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 6: Do he wasn't a sure, bet but sometimes you have

1153
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 6: to pull the trigger and take a chance on one

1154
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 6: of these. Guys and that's WHAT i probably would be

1155
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 6: doing here at number.

1156
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: Two you're with, that you're with.

1157
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: US i can't agree. Anymore, yeah that's where we've.

1158
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: BEEN i, MEAN i think it's that number two overall

1159
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: is a life, raft, Right it's it's an opportunity to quickly.

1160
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: Fix and the reality, is AS i went through with

1161
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: all of these guys who've already found new. Places this

1162
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: isn't like in the old days With bradford and some

1163
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: of those guys fifteen years, ago where you draft a

1164
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 3: quarterback and your franchise is decimated if they don't turn.

1165
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: Out you can flip quickly off of these. Quarterbacks my,

1166
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: God Justin fields is on his third. Team this can go,

1167
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: quickly so it's not any more. Punitive and the other,

1168
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: Thing mary, Kay and as long as you've been on the,

1169
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: beat you can certainly attest to. This there is no

1170
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: sure thing in THE nfl. Draft, nope you don't Know

1171
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: Bill carter's going to Be Miles garrett anymore than you

1172
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: Know Shitter sanders is going to Be Joe.

1173
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 6: Montana, no not at. All the hit rate for first

1174
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 6: round picks is somewhere around fifty, PERCENT i, believe and

1175
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 6: obviously that's not. Great and you can see even in

1176
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 6: the case of The browns since twenty, twenty that has

1177
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 6: been the case If Greg newsom doesn't get to his

1178
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 6: second long term contract. Here so, yes it's difficult to

1179
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 6: hit on those draft, picks which again was WHY i

1180
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 6: wasn't advocating A Miles garrett. Trade everybody wanted those first round. Picks,

1181
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 6: Well Miles garrett is a sure, thing and he's a

1182
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 6: Sure hall Of famer and surely the best defensive player

1183
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 6: in THE. Nfl and what would you be getting with

1184
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 6: especially the late round picks if they actually did trade

1185
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 6: him to some kind of a. Contender so those picks

1186
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 6: are not a sure bet by any stretch of the.

1187
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 6: Imagination but you have to take. Chances you have to

1188
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: take chances on these. Guys and it looks to me

1189
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 6: like even if they can't get their hands on Cam

1190
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 6: ward that shad door, standers looks like he's at least

1191
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 6: worth a, shot and it is not the end of

1192
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 6: the world if it doesn't work.

1193
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: OUT i, mean we're with. You i'm totally with. You

1194
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 4: does he Mentioned, MILES i just wanted to go back

1195
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 4: to that real. Quickly what was kind of your read

1196
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: of how that situation played? Out now he's, HERE i

1197
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: think people were kind of really not focused on the

1198
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: fact how punitive it would have been to trade, him

1199
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 4: not for only getting rid of A hall Of fame,

1200
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: player but what it would have under the salary. Cap

1201
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 4: and now you, know he changes heart and wasn't about,

1202
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: money wasn't about. Extension now he's back with The, browns

1203
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: which OBVIOUSLY i think everybody would agree is a very good.

1204
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: Thing, WELL i think That miles probably got to the

1205
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 6: point where he truly realized The browns were not going

1206
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 6: to trade him and he was going to have to

1207
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 6: make it get, ugly and who wanted? That does he

1208
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 6: really want to get booed At calves games when he's

1209
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 6: a noorty owner of The. Calves does he really want

1210
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: to not be able to show his face In cleveland,

1211
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 6: anymore where this has been his second home for the

1212
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 6: last eight. Years does he want to take the chance

1213
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 6: of going somewhere where maybe they, contend maybe their quarterback

1214
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 6: gets hurt and they win five games next. Year did

1215
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 6: he want to take the chance that he wasn't going

1216
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 6: to get forty million dollars a year that The browns

1217
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 6: were going to pay. Him BUT i think ultimately what

1218
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 6: happened is that The browns locked, arms they presented a united,

1219
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 6: front and they said he's not going. Anywhere he's our

1220
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 6: best defensive player and we are keeping him. Here and

1221
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 6: to a, man that was the message from. Them AND

1222
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 6: i really think that When JIMMY haslm wouldn't take that

1223
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 6: meeting with, HIM i think that hit.

1224
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: Home Mary, kay great having you. On thank you so

1225
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: much for the time and giving us a little bit

1226
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 3: of it.

1227
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 6: Today sounds. Good thanks, lot.

1228
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1242
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Speaker 3: you had him. On you talked With field at the.

1243
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 4: Combine, yeah and he said he would never ever ever

1244
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 4: again quarterback at two and every mock after the rest

1245
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 4: of the.

1246
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: Way here we have the proof of, This oh believe we.

1247
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1249
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: Ahead there are a few rules THAT i follow in.

1250
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 7: Life one of them is my wife is always. Correct

1251
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 7: the second one is That chefty, SPEAKS i, listen or

1252
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 7: if he, TWEETS i listen as. Well and so, YEAH i,

1253
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 7: mean When Adam schefter is that assertive in his opinion

1254
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 7: about what's gonna happen and the time that that tweet

1255
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: went out or the clip went out was over two

1256
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 7: months in advance of the.

1257
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: Draft.

1258
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 7: Uh it tells me, that you, know the man who

1259
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 7: knows all certainly know something in this. Case so The

1260
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 7: browns will be getting a quarterback in all future mock

1261
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 7: drafts that come from me and probably all of my

1262
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 7: colleagues AT espn as.

1263
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: Well except it.

1264
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 4: Didn't it's not confident that we're taking a quarterback at two.

1265
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 5: Anymore, yeah yesterday that right.

1266
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: Back by the, way nothing's gone, on nothing's, changed nothing's,

1267
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 4: happened hasn't, Played, no nothing's. Happened everybody made their evaluations

1268
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 4: and made their evaluations. Everybody all that we've done is

1269
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: we've Gotten Kenny.

1270
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: Pickett he has not thrown. It he did not throw

1271
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: it a. Combine he has not had a pro. Day

1272
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: nothing has changed in the analysis Of Shadour. Sanders, nothing

1273
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: he's physically done. Nothing now it could. Be and by the,

1274
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: way where does he Have Shador sanders going in this mock? Draft?

1275
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 4: Third?

1276
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1277
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 4: Third, YEAH i don't.

1278
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: Know so he's got Cam ward going number, one he

1279
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: has us, Going Travis hunter at number, two and Then

1280
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: shadour goes number three to The New York. Giants field

1281
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: rights The browns bypassed the quarterback class. Here they already

1282
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: traded For Kenny, pickett should still be exploring veteran. OPTIONS

1283
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: i don't Believe pickett is the expected answer at. Quarterback,

1284
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: instead they can take the highest rated player on my.

1285
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: Board hunter has a credible path to become A Pro

1286
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: bowl player at either receiver or. Corner browns general Manager

1287
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: Andrew berry has already said the team views him more

1288
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: as a receiver. Prospect he would give The browns a

1289
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: dynamic playmaker for whoever is at the quarterback. Position this

1290
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: team needs building blocks And hunter fits. That Bill.

1291
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 4: There you.

1292
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 5: Go.

1293
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: There it is the one Thing i'll say about This

1294
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: Kenny pickett thing is had it just been a, swap

1295
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 4: it wouldn't. Have it's not that it does surprise. ME

1296
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: i understand. Again first round pick that, yeah try and

1297
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 4: show is a first round. Pick you know you're they're

1298
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: looking for things like. That but when you give up

1299
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: a five and a, player to, me it sounds like

1300
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: they think he's like the. Backup and so to, me

1301
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: if if It's Russell wilson And Kenny, pickett which would Be,

1302
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: wow that'd be wild wild dealers. Quarterbacks that where's the

1303
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: rookie fit into that and it. Doesn't are you taking

1304
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 4: one or? TWO i just think if it goes that,

1305
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 4: way to, me just, roll get the, rookie Get Kenny,

1306
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: pickett and if you want to get, like take another.

1307
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 4: ROOKIE i mean you get three shots at. It to,

1308
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 4: me we're trying to FIND I nathan am trying to

1309
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: find a long term. Solution by the, WAY i want

1310
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: to thank.

1311
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: Give me his camera, Camera DOCTOR.

1312
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 4: J G, man, unbelievable there she. IS i just want

1313
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 4: to think Content browns for acknowledging my tan came by

1314
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 4: naturally In San, Juan Puerto.

1315
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 3: Rico thank, you gorgeous glow out together the outfit collection

1316
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: THAT i love, it everything about. That by the, Way

1317
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 3: DOCTOR j had a.

1318
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: Night, yeah let's talk About DOCTOR. J DOCTOR j had

1319
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 4: a knight weapons weapons move over weapons, Weapons DOCTOR.

1320
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: J stef to get my.

1321
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: Camera back to, You DOCTOR.

1322
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: J so so, yeah we got to make there there you,

1323
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: go so sliding. Over last, night the In House Flag

1324
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: Football league. Debuted DO i have that?

1325
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 4: Right correct?

1326
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 8: OR i wouldn't say. Debut this is week, three.

1327
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: Week, three but was this the your?

1328
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 4: Debut your?

1329
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: Debut?

1330
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1331
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 3: Man did they have any Idea, no so.

1332
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 8: A few people. KNEW i had a few people, knew

1333
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 8: but they was, like, uh is this your first game?

1334
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 8: Plan i'm, like, yeah last WEEK i would have, played

1335
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 8: BUT i ain't have, cleats SO i had to wait

1336
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 8: on the whole cleats, thing and, TOO i don't want

1337
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 8: to play and shoes hurt. Yourself you don't want. That

1338
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 8: but uh, yeah score within the first four minutes out a.

1339
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: Game so did were people aware that you were a

1340
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 3: football player AND i had a football background of some. Accomplishment,

1341
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: no tell the folks about your playing.

1342
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 8: Career, yeah so my career involved playing At North Carolina

1343
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 8: Anti my, teammate well known teammate Is Tari. Cohen so uh,

1344
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 8: yeah put the two and two together for My Kent

1345
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 8: state fans out. There we handed you guys and.

1346
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: There so here's The, so this is who's your? Quarterback

1347
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: this is A division one Football, yes he's A division.

1348
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: DOCTOR j is A division one football, player, yes and

1349
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: asked what you start to see is WHAT i think

1350
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 3: was made abundantly clear to everybody in the in house.

1351
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: League is That division one athlete built?

1352
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 4: Different, yeah there's probably a few of them in the.

1353
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: League if it was it used to.

1354
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: Be, Yeah i'm sure there are a couple of them out,

1355
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 3: There but if they didn't know he was, one what

1356
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 3: a lottery pick.

1357
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 8: Total one of my favorite COMMENTS i made last night

1358
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 8: was to my fellow receivers that were. Playing the first

1359
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 8: THING i, say is y'all wearing gloves out? Here i'm out,

1360
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 8: there no?

1361
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 4: Gloves did you go get? Some you're, like, No i'm. Good, no,

1362
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 4: no no.

1363
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: Needed did you wear gloves when you? Played?

1364
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely game, Time i'm wearing. Gloves you a, corner

1365
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 8: not play. Receiver oh, yeah So i'm wearing.

1366
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 4: Gloves who's your? Quarterback SO i Had.

1367
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 8: Lamar Reynard fami can't remember his last, name, uh as

1368
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 8: well as Quick. Stir those were my three quarterbacks coming through.

1369
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: College as well AS i WAS i meant last, Night.

1370
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 8: Oh michael the safety's assistant. Coach can't remember his, name but.

1371
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 3: Yes assistant safety's.

1372
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 4: Coach.

1373
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 3: Now the NEXT i think logical question would be does

1374
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: this potentially get the competitive juices flowing?

1375
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: In doctor?

1376
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: Z doctor z for a, return a return to the

1377
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: the in house flag league and unfurling the old. WHIP i,

1378
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: mean you put on a bunch of. Muscle do you

1379
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: even have?

1380
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 6: Its?

1381
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: Hey Tom brady went In Super. Bowls he's a, man he's.

1382
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: Forty do it For.

1383
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 4: Joe IF i played in that league and popped In

1384
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 4: achilles or hurt my knee or her, MABLIN i missed

1385
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 4: my very brief golf, Season i'd be so.

1386
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: Pissed, no, LISTEN i got a solution for. That, no

1387
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: just play the flag where you don't. Scramble, yeah that doesn't. Eist, no,

1388
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: no it. DOES i played WHEN i WHEN i, PLAYED

1389
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 3: i remember playing flag football down In. Tallahassee there was

1390
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: a guy who was a Former Florida state quarterback who

1391
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 3: played in the, league AND i played receiver for him

1392
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: in the.

1393
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 4: League he did not.

1394
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: Move, yeah he just caught it and it was. Out

1395
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: everything was slants, out all of that outs and, ups

1396
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 3: all that. Stuff, like he didn't. Move he just caught

1397
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 3: it through. It that's.

1398
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 4: It never Ran Jeff. Anderson was It Jeff?

1399
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 8: Anderson i'm gonna have to see a picture of. Him, yeah,

1400
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 8: yeah that's exactly exactly what it.

1401
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 4: Is did he play quarterback in? College i'm not.

1402
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 8: Sure that's a great. Question great. QUESTION i will, say.

1403
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 8: Bo i'm with a good, dude run the Row. Hart

1404
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 8: but WHEN i catch. IT i don't plan on doing

1405
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 8: much with.

1406
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 4: It you don't plan on doing much with the, ball did?

1407
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: YOU i take it to the.

1408
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 8: HOUSE i, mean IF i got an opportunity to take

1409
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 8: it to the, HOUSE i, Will BUT i don't want

1410
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 8: to put too much exertic exhaustion into.

1411
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 4: That hold, up hold, on here we, go hold, on hold.

1412
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: On, hey he's trying to be.

1413
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 5: Humble he had two touchdowns and then they went away

1414
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 5: from him and they.

1415
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: Lost they, Lost they.

1416
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,480
Speaker 5: Lost Damn gillow was seeing eq.

1417
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 4: Why they stopped throwing you the. Ball SO i don't

1418
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 4: know if he played in. College it feels like he.

1419
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 4: Would but he was a quarterback, coach an offensive, coordinator offensive,

1420
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: coordinator quarterback, coach assistant head coach At Contra costa Cal,

1421
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 4: college which is in The Bay, area and it was

1422
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 4: at The university Of Northern, Colorado San Jose state Cal.

1423
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: Poly BUT i was trying to see if he. PLAYED

1424
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 4: i don't see anything saying that he when he played the.

1425
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 4: Game but if he, Started i'm guessing as a quarterback,

1426
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 4: coach maybe he. Did did he did he sling it

1427
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 4: like you, Say, oh this guy could have played quarterback in.

1428
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 8: College, also he did a great job of getting people the,

1429
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 8: ball not. You he spread it pretty pretty. Wealthy he

1430
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 8: made sure IF i was getting.

1431
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: It how much did you guys lose BY i want to.

1432
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 8: Say the score was thirty seven to forty. NINE i

1433
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 8: want to say having forty.

1434
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: Nine so you guys had some trips that did not

1435
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 4: end in.

1436
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 8: Touchdowns, yeah a few, picks had a few picks. There,

1437
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 8: Yeah AND i think the way the scoring works is

1438
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 8: if you get a pick and you can running. Back

1439
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 8: didn't know that was a thing in flag, football BUT

1440
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 8: i always thought it died once you picked it.

1441
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: Off think you have a pick? Six why?

1442
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 6: Not?

1443
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah pick six is? Fun, okay all?

1444
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 8: Right successful first, NIGHT i say that we.

1445
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: Lost now we, know, yeah, yeah now we.

1446
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 3: Know now they know we.

1447
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 8: Knew here was a humbling COMPLIMENT i did get WHEN

1448
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 8: i was walking past the opponent. Team they was, like,

1449
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 8: bro you are really. Fast i'm, like, nah some of

1450
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 8: those times he just wasn't looking AND i was just behind.

1451
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: You that's.

1452
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: All it was.

1453
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 3: Humble.

1454
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 4: YEAH i am gonna say, though, Like i'm not gonna.

1455
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 4: Lie if we're out here distributing the. FOOTBALL a big

1456
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 4: part of flag football is, yeah and you're, LIKE i

1457
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: don't want to do anything WHEN i get the. BALL i,

1458
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 4: mean was that what kind of a picture you? Making the?

1459
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i wonder if he's just slow played this whole,

1460
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: thing just kind of slow played.

1461
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 4: It, yeah are you like the back when The Reverend

1462
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: Isaac bruce would catch it and just slide as soon

1463
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 4: as he caught the ball and.

1464
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: The greatest show On what's your co? Up so my player?

1465
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: Camp my CURRENT nfl receiver comp like.

1466
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 8: Style IF i had to compare myself to, WHO i

1467
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 8: think it would be my favorite receiver of all? Time Jerry?

1468
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 3: Rice what are you?

1469
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 4: Doing you took slants and went to the. House will

1470
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 4: didn't just take a? Slant Say i'm not to do

1471
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: anything after the? Catch Jerry, rice.

1472
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 3: You're coming?

1473
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 4: Back who me With Jerry?

1474
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 3: Rice he just compared himself To Jerry. RICE i know

1475
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: it's time to Get montana out of the out of the.

1476
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: Garage i'm hearing contradictory, things, Right HOW wou does that

1477
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 4: not inspire?

1478
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: You you're saying he's going to do for, You you're going

1479
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: to bring the best out of.

1480
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 4: It you're telling me right, Now i'll tell you what

1481
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 4: do you come?

1482
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: Back you come? BACK i will. BE i will come

1483
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 3: watch those. GAMES i want you to distribute it to.

1484
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: HIM i Want montana. Back come, on he just Said Jerry.

1485
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: Rice he, Did but in my, MINDS I i See

1486
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: Jerry rice taking sl lands and going to the house

1487
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 4: and not being.

1488
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 3: LIKE i think he's got it for. YOU i think he.

1489
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: WOULD i would, wait take it, there, Man can you

1490
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: Be Jim. Burton he's In.

1491
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 4: Jim he could Be Randy. Cross Randy. Cross, OH i love.

1492
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 4: This this is.

1493
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 3: Great good job out of, you very good job at of.

1494
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 4: YOU i want you to be an electric. Factory. Though

1495
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1511
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1512
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1516
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,080
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1517
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 4: Danish, yeah which is but it's also wild that he's

1518
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 4: no longer A, texan, right sure? IS i mean that

1519
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 4: seems surprising to. Me what was their biggest issue was

1520
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 4: their own. Line he was their, best was their best,

1521
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 4: lineman and now they've turned OVER i think three of the,

1522
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: five which you'd say in most, cases if things weren't,

1523
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 4: good that's a good. Idea but perhaps if it's you,

1524
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 4: know going so, well then MAYBE i don't.

1525
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: Know, yeah you mentioned That Kenyon green goes To philly

1526
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: from The texans FOR. Cj Gardner, Johnson so you mentioned

1527
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: that that offensive line going to be brand new down.

1528
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: There Former steeler running Back Naje harris has agreed to

1529
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 3: a one year deal worth nine point twenty five with The.

1530
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: CHARGERS i actually think he'll fit in well.

1531
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 4: THERE i do, too and it's really a no risk

1532
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 4: deal whatsoever for. THEM i, mean he's an upgrade over you,

1533
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 4: know Where Gus edwards WAS i think last year for.

1534
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 4: Them i'm kind of surprised they haven't brought BACK. Jk,

1535
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 4: dobbins who played well for. Them but, again this is

1536
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: a great running back, draft and his compensation, THERE i

1537
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 4: think is indicative of the fact that it. Is, yes

1538
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: that it is such a good running back.

1539
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 3: Draft just a one year deal for, Him so The

1540
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: Minnesota vikings aren't messing Around Jonathan allen To minnesota three

1541
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: years for Sixty so they get that sorted, out they're all, In,

1542
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't that's to be fascinating if they, Go

1543
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: if they GO jj who they loved and was going

1544
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 3: to be the starter of day one last year before

1545
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 3: he got hurt, yep or do they risk it with

1546
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 3: it seems Like rogers is out because Between giants And

1547
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: steelers for, him they say, yes, Yeah so it seems

1548
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: like it'll be who would who would you put, in

1549
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: you'd want to make sure you had a very cap

1550
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: competent backup BEHIND jj like that is that?

1551
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: VETERAN i, Know it's just it's a hard. Thing who is?

1552
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 4: That is that A?

1553
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,879
Speaker 5: Mariota is that A? Flaco?

1554
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 3: Flaco laco's thrived in that type of offense with those.

1555
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: WEAPONS i, mean he'd love to throw bombs over Beg

1556
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: dead to.

1557
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 4: Those two it. IS i think it's would be so

1558
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 4: interesting if they Go. Rogers that would be which again

1559
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 4: we both think is, unlikely but that would be very.

1560
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: Interesting well for him to Mimic farre's path, too would be.

1561
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 4: Wild, yes of, course that would be very to mimic it.

1562
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 3: Exactly Jamon holland reached a three or forty five million

1563
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: dollar deal with The, Giants Rady jarrett Former. Falcon he

1564
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: goes to The. Bears a couple other Things Donte garrison.

1565
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,959
Speaker 3: Spent they did. Well they completely remade the, offense the offensive,

1566
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 3: line and you, know they believe In kale and the.

1567
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,879
Speaker 3: Court and this is the roster we had In, detroit

1568
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 3: this is WHAT i need to win In. Chicago and

1569
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 3: The bear, said, okay let's go get let's get that. Done.

1570
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 4: YEP i think they're gonna be just. Fine i'll tell you.

1571
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: What chervarisward reached it agreement three years sixty with The.

1572
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 3: Colts The rams are planning to Rease Cooper cup after

1573
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: the new league year For tray doesn't. Materialize Zach wilson

1574
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 3: on a backup deal for ten, million ten million bucks

1575
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: to back up In. Miami For Zach wilson on that.

1576
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 4: Side that's at least somebody that that's a GOOD i.

1577
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 4: LIKED i don't mind that for. THEM i like The

1578
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: ball Of. Clay, yeah and it's at least you have a.

1579
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 4: Chance Skyler thompson And Tyler huntley really gave them no, chance. Unfortunately.

1580
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 3: No Javonte williams to The cowboys on a one year

1581
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 3: deal the.

1582
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 4: Forty LIKE i do.

1583
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 3: Too we always liked. Him if he didn't have that

1584
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: a catastrophic, INJURY i think he was upset for a.

1585
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 3: Monster you never. Know Kyle uschek being released by the

1586
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: forty nine ers and Then Chase young extending with The

1587
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 3: saints three years at fifty one for, him did anything

1588
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: that that happened in the last twenty four hours or

1589
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: so since the start of a little more than, that

1590
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: since the start of free agency. Changed let's not do

1591
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 3: from non from contender to from pretender like playoff team to,

1592
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 3: contender but how many teams went from outside to now

1593
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 3: being playoff? Teams who improved the most in free? Agency?

1594
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: Minnesota if they hit on, McCarthy but.

1595
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:37,879
Speaker 4: They were a playoff.

1596
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: Team they. Were they went thirteen and four for crying out,

1597
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: Loud it's hard to imagine them doing better than.

1598
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 5: That are The?

1599
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: Bears The bears did a. LOT i would think The

1600
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 3: buccaneers did a.

1601
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 4: Lot The. Bucks The bucks really just kind of. Reloaded,

1602
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 4: yeah they are they they kept kind of what they

1603
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 4: had and they made The Hassan redick is a new Ad.

1604
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 4: WASHINGTON i think has certainly improved The rams Getting Devonte,

1605
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 4: adams but they were a playoff. TEAM i, mean it's

1606
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 4: a lot of the playoff teams stay in playoff. TEAMS

1607
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: i would say, That, yeah that's probably. IT i think.

1608
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 4: That you, know you've Seen New england and the future

1609
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 4: quarterbacks on the rise on rookie. Deals you've Seen New

1610
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 4: england In chicago And carolina to an extent be. Aggressive

1611
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 4: atlanta can't be as aggressive because they're paying a quarterback

1612
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 4: like he's the. Guy so you've seen those three teams be.

1613
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 4: AGGRESSIVE i think they've all improved. Themselves tennessee signing of

1614
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 4: paying that kind of money for the left tackle is so.

1615
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 4: Interesting if they're doing anything but taking a quarterback at

1616
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: one AND i mean if we were DOING, TTD i

1617
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 4: mean we'd be pounding the table like what are we? Doing?

1618
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah you got to take? Quarterback? Yeah.

1619
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah it's so. Hard it's so hard right now around

1620
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: the league because there is a set of thought that

1621
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 3: is in place prior to the. Combine then there's the

1622
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: group think of the, combine and then there's this time

1623
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 3: leading into free agency and to go at the combine

1624
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: where there wasn't anybody who Thought tennessee was going. Quarterback,

1625
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: nope not a, Soul. Nope to here we sit like what?

1626
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: Changed Cam ward hasn't worked.

1627
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 4: OUT i don't. Know and so maybe this is just

1628
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: people getting. Together maybe somebody is becoming it's obvious to

1629
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 4: them that they need to go ahead and take a.

1630
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: Quarterback There by the, way having this be the picture

1631
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 4: of Cam ord's, uniform thing is that's an. Affront it's

1632
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 4: a picture that's A Houston oilers. Uniform, yeah that is

1633
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 4: not what that is Not Tennessee titans.

1634
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,959
Speaker 3: Uniform, No and by the, way what type of identity

1635
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: crisis do you have if your best uniform is from

1636
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: a different.

1637
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: Town just give it, up, Man, yeah let them have.

1638
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 3: It what do you do with? It spikes store upon.

1639
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: Spikes we would be so good as the czars.

1640
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: Of sports commissioners of common. Sense, yeah we'd be so.

1641
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 4: Good.

1642
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: Uh the, YOU i got to give you some. Flowers

1643
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 3: you Predicted Daniel. Jones IF i Were Daniel, jones that's

1644
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: WHERE i would.

1645
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 4: GO i would. GO i, mean you've got a great run,

1646
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 4: Game you've got a big possession, receiver you have a

1647
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 4: game breaking field, stretcher you have another, downs you have

1648
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 4: a good, receiver AND I mitchell they. Drafted If i'm,

1649
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 4: Him i'm pounding the. Table get Me warren Or, loveland

1650
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 4: depending on what they think fits better with what you

1651
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 4: know they want that tight end to. BE i Think

1652
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 4: warren's more of a big behemoth, blocker Not, gronk but

1653
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 4: would win in a way That gronk, one Whereas loveland

1654
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: is more of like A, kelsey a route, runner just a.

1655
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 4: Stud but that's WHAT i would certainly be asking. For

1656
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 4: i'm surprised to be honest with you that that wasn't

1657
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: a more popular, Desk, LIKE i Think Sam darnold has

1658
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 4: a better chance to win and would have had a

1659
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 4: better chance to win In indianapolis than he doesn't CEL.

1660
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 3: I think so even mentioned that With. Stafford, remember like

1661
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: at the, combine we're like that If I'm, stafford that'd

1662
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 3: be the spot is? There AND i know you've been

1663
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: very high on. It my only thinking is is That,

1664
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: indianapolis Like, minnesota they would bring you, in but you'd

1665
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: have to compete with the guy we. Drafted, yeah and

1666
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 3: so maybe What indy was saying Is Daniel, jones you

1667
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: can come compete With Anthony, Richardson like we're not Gonna

1668
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: we're not hard.

1669
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: To say That Anthony richardson is not in our.

1670
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: Plans that's. It, Yeah AND i wonder if that's also

1671
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: what Drove donald out Of, minnesota because it seemed like

1672
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: they were, like we want you, back but at this,

1673
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: price and you're gonna have to win the job AGAINST.

1674
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 3: Jj he was, like, well, No i'm. Good i'm gonna

1675
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: take more money to be the starter In. Seattle so

1676
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 3: that's the one THING i was kind of curious about

1677
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: if maybe that's what kept people out Of. India it's

1678
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: possible because the spot's, great the division's very. Winnable, yeah you,

1679
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: know but they weren't really linked to any of these

1680
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: other guys. Either they weren't linked To Donald there's nothing.

1681
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 4: Nothing, no it was basically, That that's what it. Was

1682
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 4: it was Basically Daniel. Jones.

1683
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah The, bucks as we, mentioned they were. Aggressive they

1684
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 3: kept their own. Guys they Got Hassan redick as, well

1685
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: so they're in a run it, back let's go chase it.

1686
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: Situation The patriots have been very, busy a bunch of

1687
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 3: guys brought into the. Mix there a lot of defensive.

1688
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: Help they feel obviously ripe to be going weapon at

1689
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: four or offensive tackle maybe the kid out OF lsu or,

1690
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: weapon but like they've kind of addressed everything else defensively

1691
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: through free, agency.

1692
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah but to, me you, know they were the

1693
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 4: team that was supposed to get T higgins overpay For,

1694
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 4: godwin trade FOR Dk meg if they got none of,

1695
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 4: it like who's drink may still throwing the ball TO

1696
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 4: i don't.

1697
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 3: Know that's WHY i think they got to go weapon

1698
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 3: at four so that If travis is gone in the

1699
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: first three, picks then that's got to be, McMillan.

1700
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 4: But some people have him dropping down the twenties. TOO

1701
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 4: i don't know what to make of any of these.

1702
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: THINGS i really don't.

1703
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't. Either hard to say The bengals are

1704
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 3: a real now here's the thing With, cincinnati AND i

1705
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: could see their ownership doing. This all their guys are under.

1706
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 3: Contract anders is under, Contract Jamar chase is under. Contract

1707
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: T higgins has already been franchise.

1708
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 4: Tagged.

1709
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 3: Yep LIKE i could see them just rolling the dice

1710
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: and hoping That joel convince them all to. Play But Jamar,

1711
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: chase it's gonna get real ugly if they. Don't you

1712
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: see his? Thing What i'm worth plus? Tax, Yeah, like

1713
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: he's Not he's not messing.

1714
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 4: Around, now they had a chance to get it, done

1715
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 4: and they certainly did. Not we'll. See now there's this is.

1716
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 4: AGAIN i don't know how much is with, this but

1717
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: we're talking about The colts that The giants are co

1718
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: favorites to trade for Quarterback Anthony richardson to get him

1719
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 4: With Brian, dables to try to get him back on,

1720
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 4: track which would to me only happen If Aaron rodgers

1721
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 4: is the one who goes To. PITTSBURGH i am so

1722
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 4: prized that it has not happened, yet aren't?

1723
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: You with The richardson or The rodgers At? Rogers is

1724
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: not done, WELL i don't think it can officially be

1725
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: done until, tomorrow like he's still in The. Jets but,

1726
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 3: YES i agree with. You here's WHAT i don't know

1727
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 3: because it's. HIM i don't know what is why is for?

1728
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 4: Sure who?

1729
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: Knows is he trying to decide if he even wants to? Play,

1730
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't have any. Idea it's hard to say on.

1731
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 3: That so it's been wild, Though i'll tell you that

1732
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 3: last forty eight hours or. So so much more to.

1733
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 3: Come Cleveland Browns, daily eight FIFTY Espn Cleveland.

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns daily presented By Bally, bett an official sports

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Speaker 2: betting partner of Your Cleveland browns on eight fifty esp And. Cleveland,

1736
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: well this is usually how free agency. Goes you get

1737
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 2: this big.

1738
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: Flurry and then a settling down and then we'll see.

1739
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 4: And typically that's where the values come. In are the

1740
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 4: free agents that are not necessarily in, that you, Know Opening,

1741
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: salvough because you have to pay a free agent premium

1742
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: for those.

1743
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: PLAYERS i still think it's just wild to wrap my

1744
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 3: mind around the quarterback money that went out to guys

1745
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: who you could have had for like a million, bucks,

1746
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 3: yeah two million, bucks, yeah a year ago that all

1747
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 3: went out like they're just there is not enough high quarterback.

1748
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 3: Play and what we stumbled, On, folks go back and

1749
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 3: listen to the first hour of the, show because we

1750
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,799
Speaker 3: went over what kind of it organically, happened a discussion organically.

1751
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 3: Happened BUT i think it's an absolute fact of where

1752
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 3: the league is now versus where the league had been

1753
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 3: for a. Decade AND i think the idea of Is

1754
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 3: Justin fields the franchise quarterback for The. Jets they might

1755
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 3: not even believe, it but he's. Fun he'll win some, games,

1756
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: yeah and he'll sell some tickets and they'll be excited

1757
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: About washington play from time to. Time and there's value in.

1758
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 4: That of, course clearly that is that is a trend

1759
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 4: that we are seeing around this. League all, right J,

1760
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 4: mac Doctor, Jake we're gonna have a we'll do one

1761
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 4: of the days after the show that we're able. To

1762
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a throwing. Session we're gonna want to

1763
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 4: run some. Routes i'll sling it to you and then

1764
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 4: we'll see if that's enough to coax me out of.

1765
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 3: Retirement coming oh is HE'S.

1766
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: I gotta go find My Jeff George.

1767
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 3: Jersey it's been, No, no we gotta Go. Montana it's

1768
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 3: hanging in THE i can only play as one. Man,

1769
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 3: no you gotta go As. Joe you're, Dude you're a different.

1770
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 3: Guy you're not deep. Guy, now now you're gonna be

1771
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: no movement in the hand out quick. Pop It's joe.

1772
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 8: Arm.

1773
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: Totally it's been well, documented BUT i want it all.

1774
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 4: UNDERNEATH i, mean in the year twenty, fourteen WHEN i

1775
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 4: had cooked up one of the craziest ideas ever that

1776
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 4: was actually a lot closer to happening in reality than

1777
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 4: people thinking we can discuss this on a day where

1778
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: there's not a lot going. ON i will demanded by

1779
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 4: the general manager then of The Cleveland browns at the,

1780
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 4: time THAT i had to throw the ball at least

1781
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 4: over sixty yards before it was. Considered AND i walked

1782
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: right out there sixty four boom, boom and he, said,

1783
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 4: okay all, right you, can but NOW i THINK i

1784
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 4: might fall.

1785
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 3: Off, okay, well we're not new. Quarterback You're joe now

1786
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 3: you're throwing, yeah And gibby's got your.

1787
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 4: SUPPORT i feel Like i'm like you guys are saying

1788
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 4: basically a big like post broken Neck peyton, man oh.

1789
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 3: Well he won a Super, bowl he Did, Next Next Level's,

1790
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Next Cleveland Browns, daily eight FIFTY Espn.

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