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Speaker 1: Native lamp Pod is the production of iHeart Radio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: You guys, this is episode eighty eighty. Like Grady, if

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Speaker 1: you know about Atlanta, you know what I mean. We

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Speaker 1: are your hosts. Welcome to Native Lampod. I'm Tiffany Cross

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Speaker 1: here with Angela Rye and Andrew Gillam. What's up you guys?

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Speaker 4: Can we talk.

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Speaker 3: Because he let me show you week Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 5: This was.

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Speaker 4: Yo, show up, up, up, tip say something else.

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Speaker 1: Let me show you Andrew and we're thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: here with you guys, because.

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Speaker 6: More exciting.

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Speaker 3: Every week.

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Speaker 1: This is why when we're not we love being together,

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Speaker 1: but when we're not in the same place, it gets

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Speaker 1: a little challenging. So anyway, welcome home. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot to get into today. I'm really excited that we

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Speaker 1: have a guest joining us, Mayor Keith ha Lance Bottoms,

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Speaker 1: the former mayor of Atlanta who kicked off her gubernatorial

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Speaker 1: bid in Georgia this week. We'll be joining us shortly,

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Speaker 1: but we have other stuff to get into too, So

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Speaker 1: do you guys have other topics? You want to talk

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Speaker 1: about or are you going to save it off for

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Speaker 1: the mayor.

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Speaker 6: I would not mind talking about the hell Andrew's been

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Speaker 6: through a FAM You, and that's something we can also

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Speaker 6: talk to the mayor about as a FAM You rattler ourself. Yes,

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Speaker 6: do you hear half right now?

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Speaker 1: He doesn't your audience, you can see what we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: Section wait until like this latter half of my sentences.

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Speaker 4: It did sound like the end of the sentence.

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Speaker 6: You know what? Actually, you know what? Tip I got

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Speaker 6: to get him right now, keep saying amen. I also

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Speaker 6: want to talk about everything that's been going on at

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Speaker 6: FAM You because it is just been Oh now you

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Speaker 1: I am curious to hear the not be complicit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he does it all the time. I am curious to

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Speaker 1: hear the mayor's response from that. As you all know,

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Speaker 1: she is an alum of FAM You and this week,

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Speaker 1: Andrew you did your solo pot on everything happening at

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Speaker 1: FAM You, and we've also talked about it on the episode.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm eager to hear it. So let's get

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Speaker 3: into it.

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Speaker 6: Well. As the honorary rattler, I am I just want

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Speaker 6: you all to know. I'm also wearing fear of God

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Speaker 6: today in the spirit of solidarity, as y'all know. Jerry

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Speaker 6: Lorenzo also University.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is not a coincidence that so many of

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Speaker 4: the people that with whom we know, and even the listeners. No,

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Speaker 4: Noah Rattler, because fam you is the number one producer

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Speaker 4: look beach you laureate degree holders. Yeah, it's the single

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Speaker 4: largest single campus HBCU. So it's right that we should,

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Speaker 4: you know, have a role in producing.

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Speaker 6: Instead of paying homage. Today we're paying homage.

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Speaker 4: Y'all.

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Speaker 6: Don't get it. Listen to the last show. What you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said that you had us flute out of

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Speaker 6: Well, I wanted you guys to get fluid out to

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Speaker 1: You brought that up, Angela, because we will be in Jackson, Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: So if you have not signed up for staying the

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Speaker 1: Tour of the People there, I think the people of

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Speaker 6: Did you know what I said when he came a

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Speaker 6: greet us. He was like, I just want to greet everybody.

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Speaker 6: It's the state of the people. State the people said,

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Speaker 6: sitting very very Are y'all not going in Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: I think the Mayor's joined us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, perfect, okay, So after we have Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms,

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Speaker 1: we are going to pick up on some of these topics.

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Speaker 1: you join us today. Congratulations on the announced come.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's so good to see all of you all all.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people always always always think I will

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Speaker 1: call you Madam Mayor, but I know her, so I'm

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Speaker 1: saying Keisha. They always say I think we look alike,

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Speaker 1: and somebody I was telling her all the time.

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Speaker 4: Very beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Andrews.

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Speaker 1: But we were in Miami together, Angela, the mayor, and

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Speaker 6: Oh my God, was like, oh, well, you know you

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Speaker 6: could send me a donation. Let me get these wire restructions.

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Speaker 3: Let me give my cash just so you know, tiffaniye,

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Speaker 3: we're getting breaks next week.

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Speaker 1: So okay, okay, Tiffany. I want so bad for America

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Speaker 1: to finally have a governor who has breads because this

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Speaker 1: natural hair is not for the faint of heart and

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Speaker 1: not that you are humidity.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no. And I just told somebody today,

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Speaker 3: I said what I do know. I said, people will

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Speaker 3: Called out here and looking crazy.

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: now what happened? Because I can't have you out here

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Speaker 6: in Keisha, I can't have you out here. I'll be like,

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Speaker 6: you like, oh, let's go to tomorrow real quick.

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Speaker 4: This past week were weird, bros.

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Speaker 6: Because my joke was funny.

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Speaker 5: I knew she found it was funny, and we were

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Speaker 5: when we were in Miami, my line sister Denise, not

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Speaker 5: Denise Hendricks Landa, my former e p A.

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Speaker 3: And know I'm talking about Denise.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It was like, your hair is making me so mad

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Speaker 3: because the natural hair was doing all this and the

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Speaker 1: Well, shout out to Denise hendricks Yes, all right, rattler

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Keisha's lion sister was my former executive producer, so shout

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Speaker 1: congrats on the announcement. I'm sure my co hosts have

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Speaker 1: many many questions for you.

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Speaker 6: Can I ask before we get into the announcement, Yes,

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Speaker 6: Andrew and we've been watching Andrew and our good brother

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Speaker 6: Vince Evans been running ragged on this family stuff. Mayor Keisha,

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Speaker 6: some time, the alums, the students. The students been in

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Speaker 6: Given where we are right now with Fam You.

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Speaker 3: Fam You is in a really interesting spot, to say

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Speaker 3: the least, because it is a state institution, so part

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Speaker 3: of what sets family apart. There's so many things that

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Speaker 3: I know my brother Andrew understands that. So it is

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Speaker 3: my hope that she'll surprise us all that she won't

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Speaker 3: what do I do with the money that I've donated

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well the mayor is right that we as

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Speaker 4: worked with her before on some broad band issues previously,

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Speaker 4: have to measure them, so you don't have a record

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Speaker 4: they are appointed by, who they have been in alignment with.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately a candidate who has been appointed by Rick Scott,

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Speaker 4: has been reported appointed repeatedly by Ronda Santis to boards,

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Speaker 3: So you know, Andrew, you've been on the ballot a

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Speaker 3: So we've got an ever changing voter role in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up our communities, Madam Mayor,

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Speaker 3: So younger black rural people feel completely untapped. What is

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Speaker 3: your plan to reach those voters? And you know, Tiffany,

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Speaker 3: Those are the issues that you talk to in these

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Speaker 6: You know, one of the things I just thought about

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Speaker 3: And what's interesting about that, Angela. When I was mayor,

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Speaker 6: No, just a follow up on this housing piece. According

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Speaker 6: now taking that full that's that full expectation and that

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Speaker 6: That is a hard stat and it's super sensitive to

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Speaker 3: You know, I would tell people all of the time,

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Speaker 3: title to the house. So that's something specifically that the

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Speaker 3: state can help with helping people clean up titles, helping

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Speaker 3: make it making it easier for people to access resources

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Speaker 3: to help them maintain these family homes. But what I

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Speaker 3: did when I was mayor, I created an affordable Housing

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Speaker 3: Trust Fund. I actually started it when I was on

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Speaker 3: City Council. I introduced this legislation when we were doing

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Speaker 3: all the things related to Mercedes Bend Stadium and we

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Speaker 3: started seeing the community flip. This community that my family

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Speaker 3: ca from the cotton fields of Crofitville, Georgia, landed on

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Speaker 3: the west side. We created this affordable Housing Trust Fund

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Speaker 3: that was for a very small portion of the city,

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Speaker 3: helping the people pay their property of taxes, because that's

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Speaker 3: the offshoot of gentrification. Sometimes you want the communities revitalized,

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Speaker 3: but you want the people who have stuck with the

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Speaker 3: community to be able to afford to stay and enjoy

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Speaker 3: the benefits of the revitalization. When I was mayor and

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Speaker 3: we negotiated the transaction to for what we call the

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Speaker 3: Goat now Centennial Yards right there in downtown Atlanta, I

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Speaker 3: expanded that Affordable Housing Trust Fund. We put part of

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Speaker 3: the money that we got from that transaction into the

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Speaker 3: Affordable Housing Trust Fund so that we could expand that

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Speaker 3: city wide. So when your property taxes go up, as

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Speaker 3: it has on my grandparents' house that my mother now owns,

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Speaker 3: you can now have enough access to this Affordable Housing

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Speaker 3: Trust Fund to help you offset those property taxes. And

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Speaker 3: then just lastly, we're just going to be thoughtful about

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Speaker 3: how we are preserving our communities. We can't stop redevelopment.

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Speaker 3: It's a free market. People can come in, they can

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Speaker 3: build within the zoning parameters what they want to build.

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Speaker 3: But it also means we are saying, when you come

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Speaker 3: into our communities, these are the things that we are

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Speaker 3: asking for you. We need to set aside for workforce housing.

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Speaker 3: We need to make sure that you're contributing to our

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Speaker 3: Affordable Housing Trust Fund to help people be able to

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Speaker 3: pay their property taxes. And it's also good for business

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Speaker 3: because you want to come in as a good neighbor

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Speaker 3: and you want people to be able to you want

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Speaker 3: a variety of people in our communities. It makes our

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Speaker 3: communities better. So it's a very tough issue that's being

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Speaker 3: faced by cities across America. But it's also very frustrating

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Speaker 3: because so many people have stuck with cities when cities

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Speaker 3: didn't stick with them. And it's something that you have

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Speaker 3: to be intentional about. And as governor you can have

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Speaker 3: either an even larger impact because you can push through

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Speaker 3: policies through the state that doesn't make it one off.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's just in Atlanta, it can be in policies

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Speaker 3: where they be in Monroe and Madison, Valdosta, or wherever

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Speaker 3: it is across the state.

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Speaker 1: Madameyor I want to ask you about what I would

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Speaker 1: consider it to be the biggest economic theft in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and that is essentially the defunding of HBCUs there. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. There was

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit, a sixty seven pages lawsuit that alleged the

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Speaker 1: Board of Regents there were diverting resources away from hbc

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Speaker 1: is like Fort Valley giving that money to UGA. In

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Speaker 1: this lawsuit, it was uncovered that nineteen members of the

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Speaker 1: Board of Regents went to UGA Fort Valley students talk

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Speaker 1: about how their campus looks. And I ask about this

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Speaker 1: because given what is happening with FAM you and given

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Speaker 1: the importance of our HBCUs right now, the lawsuit eventually

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Speaker 1: went away, but the problems did not. So I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: as governor, how you would address the funding of ever

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Speaker 1: so important HBCUs that exists in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I'll give the example of fam You in

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Speaker 3: the FSU. It's not Georgia, but you think FAMU has

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Speaker 3: a beautiful campus right up until you go over to

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Speaker 3: see FSU and you realize how short Fam YOU has

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Speaker 3: been cut and multiply that in Georgia. So again, the

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Speaker 3: governor controls a lot. The governor makes those meant to

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Speaker 3: the Board of Regents. So if you want people, Brian

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Speaker 3: Kemp went to the University of Georgia, So if you

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Speaker 3: want representation, you got to make sure the representation is

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Speaker 3: representative of the state. Making sure that our HBCUs are

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Speaker 3: represented at the Board of Regions, making sure the funding

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Speaker 3: is fairly allocated, making sure that our HBCUs aren't a

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Speaker 3: second thought when we're allocating resources, that we aren't pouring

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Speaker 3: it all into just certain schools, that we are being fair,

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Speaker 3: and it also means that we're making sure that these

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Speaker 3: schools can be destination places, so that all of the

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Speaker 3: top programs aren't just at one university, but they are

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Speaker 3: equally allocated at our HBCUs. I remember a professor at

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Speaker 3: FAM YOU and I wish I could remember his name.

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Speaker 3: He would tell the story about many decades ago, FAM

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Speaker 3: you used to have a law school. Now we have

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Speaker 3: a law school now, but it was after the first

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Speaker 3: law school was taken away from FAMU, and the story that.

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Speaker 4: And given to FSU and given the FSU.

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Speaker 3: The story he would tell was that one day, the

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Speaker 3: way they knew the law school was being taken away,

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Speaker 3: they came and started taking the boats out of the library.

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Speaker 3: That's how they knew the law schools being taken away.

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Speaker 3: That's not just the story of FAM You and FSU,

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Speaker 3: that's the story of HBCUs across Georgia. Make sure that

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Speaker 3: we are putting programs at our HBCUs that make them

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Speaker 3: destination institutions, and then we are attracting and recruiting great

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Speaker 3: people to lead our HBCUs. It can't just always be

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Speaker 3: about fundraising. That's important, but it's also got to be

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Speaker 3: about academics and making sure that our students are equipped

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Speaker 3: for success. Again, the power of the pen from the

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Speaker 3: Governor's office, it's so important.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately the mayor has to run.

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Speaker 1: I'm told you tell us because Andrews respect Andrew will

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Speaker 1: ask her do you have time for more question?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm being told that you have to run. I

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Speaker 3: do have time for another question.

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Speaker 4: My encouragement, Mayor, I want you is that what you

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Speaker 4: are saying the issues that you were hitting, that title issue,

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Speaker 4: which is just such a processing thing, you might think.

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Speaker 4: But my family who were enslaved in Georgia and Clientsville, Georgia,

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Speaker 4: just outside of Valdosta, lost our family's property, my great

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Speaker 4: grandfather because of this whole title issue, and the banks

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Speaker 4: were ready to steep in, take it, sell it to

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Speaker 4: the developers, and it's gone down the road in a

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Speaker 4: whole host of history and service and sacrifice is lost

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Speaker 4: for a group of people. But everything that you have

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Speaker 4: mentioned today, you haven't talked about Donald Trump once. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's important that the people of Georgia know

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Speaker 4: that as governor, you're the number one priority. You're waking

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00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: up and going to bed every night thinking about them.

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00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: The wallet, kitchen table and pocketbook issues. That's all you

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Speaker 4: have talked about given the time that we have had

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Speaker 4: here today. And that's the stuff that people aren't saying

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Speaker 4: in polls because it's just so baked into their everyday experience.

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Speaker 4: It's just par for the course. So they're not complaining,

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Speaker 4: but it is a big complain for a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: And my support of you and love of you not

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Speaker 4: only as a mayor but as a candidate for governor

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Speaker 4: is further now steeped in. What I know about mayors

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Speaker 4: is that they keep it close to the people. Is

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Speaker 4: that you'll take that same energy of your closeness and

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Speaker 4: advocacy for the everyday folks in Georgia, regardless of party affiliation,

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Speaker 4: who they voted for, didn't vote for, or if they

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Speaker 4: voted at all, that you know the heart in their

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Speaker 4: mind because it's been your lived experience too. And I

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Speaker 4: can't think of a higher recommender for a person for

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Speaker 4: public office, the one who has not just talked to

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Speaker 4: talk about walk the walk. So I wish you the

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Speaker 4: very very best, I think on all of our behalf

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Speaker 4: as you as you as you climb this mountain, and

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Speaker 4: and and I know that your pathway will will will

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Speaker 4: hopefully one I know, be successful. But to ease it

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Speaker 4: for all the rest of us, at every level of

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Speaker 4: government wherever it is that we choose to serve.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate that you are my brother.

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Speaker 3: You all are my sisters. I love you. I thank

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Speaker 3: you all for always fighting the good fight on behalf

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Speaker 3: of all of us, and keeping all of us honest

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Speaker 3: and holding us accountable to the reasons that that we

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Speaker 3: are here and the work that we are called to do.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate you all. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Go get them, get the Bottoms a former member of

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Speaker 1: Atlanta City Council, former mayor, former judge, former appointees in

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Speaker 1: the Buying administration, lots of titles. We will stay tuned

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Speaker 1: to see if Governor Keisha at Lance Bottoms will be next.

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Speaker 1: Is America ready for a black governor? Is about damn

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Speaker 1: time we need governor? Black woman governor?

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Speaker 6: For joining us, we are gonna book TIFFs Braid's appointment

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Speaker 6: right after this so that y'all can really keep rocking

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Speaker 6: a little.

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Speaker 3: I love it one B thirty Okay, that's.

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Speaker 6: What I love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, see you on the campaign trail. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, lord, y'all know I'll know what, yes, I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 7: all right, I love it Keep it real, mate, keep

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Speaker 7: it real.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I really enjoyed the conversation with

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Speaker 1: her because I feel like all of our questions are

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Speaker 1: things that she will likely not be asked and other outlets.

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of reading this morning.

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Speaker 1: This morning, looking at you know, The Times, the Post,

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Speaker 1: even the a JC. I talked to reporters even before

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Speaker 1: we got on air, and just some of the things

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Speaker 1: that they were concerned about in highlighting just really we

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Speaker 1: didn't speak to our community, and it just shows the

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Speaker 1: disconnect sometimes between media and the people.

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Speaker 4: It's also intentional tiff to keep her from being able

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Speaker 4: to get to the stuff that she was talking about today,

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Speaker 4: because what she was saying today is exactly what can

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Speaker 4: move people from their couches and get them to the post.

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Speaker 4: I already have a sense of how she is going

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Speaker 4: to respond to a fourth grader as president throwing a

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Speaker 4: temper tantrum. Right, I've seen her handle people like that.

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Speaker 4: But what You're Gonna do for me is going to

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Speaker 4: be the first in the last question that voters were asked,

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Speaker 4: what are you gonna do for me?

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Speaker 6: What I really appreciated about this is it felt we

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Speaker 6: felt really economics focused, and I know that we hit

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Speaker 6: on those issues every now and then I know we

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Speaker 6: plan to get to tariffs at some point really soon too,

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Speaker 6: and the impacts on our communities. But I got to

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Speaker 6: tell you, like the exposure that I've had recently to

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Speaker 6: I can't even call them kitchen table issues because the

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Speaker 6: people I've been encountering don't have kitchen table conversations because

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Speaker 6: some don't have kitchen tables, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 6: so the sensitivity around, like even seeing her reaction to

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Speaker 6: kimberly situation in Atlanta, like her eyes closed and you

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Speaker 6: can see like the pain. Like, I just think it

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Speaker 6: matters to have people who aren't just from our community

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Speaker 6: but have stayed in tune with our community representing us.

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Speaker 6: Whether they're in corporations or labor union leadership or in government,

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Speaker 6: it matters. And I am grateful that she has has

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Speaker 6: a demonstrative, demonstrated record of caring about these issues and

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Speaker 6: working to address them.

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Speaker 4: So he gives a damn about the people.

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Speaker 1: Now some understanding for how funding allocation works at the

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Speaker 1: state level, you know, I think about ray Lewis, who

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Speaker 1: we had on, you know, saying politicians don't do anything,

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Speaker 1: and it really is just a lack of understanding. There's

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Speaker 1: a disconnect between civics, civic engagement leaders and who they

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Speaker 1: choose to talk to media and who they choose to cover.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you can feel that way, like maybe

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Speaker 1: my mayor doesn't care about me, but you don't know

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Speaker 1: that the Republican governor is the person who's allocating the

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Speaker 1: federal funding to the mostly white neighborhoods, and that's why

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Speaker 1: the black neighborhood doesn't have access to clean drinking water.

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Speaker 1: So connecting those dots, I think is really important. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy that we have as a guest.

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Speaker 4: But Tiffany, to your point just now, it is also

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Speaker 4: a call up for the electeds and the policymakers, who

657
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Speaker 4: they know every day they are doing what they can

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Speaker 4: for communities to not And it's easy to happen, because

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Speaker 4: it's happened to me repeatedly, to not just be in

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Speaker 4: the office doing the world, but communicating back to the

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Speaker 4: people exactly what you're doing on their behalf. That way,

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Speaker 4: even if they never get to see the fruit of

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Speaker 4: the labor, that they know somebody's laboring, and they literally know.

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Speaker 6: Who you are, like they know who you are because

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Speaker 6: they've met you, they've had encounters with you, I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's a lack of understanding at all.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lack of connection. You know, I

668
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Speaker 1: like it is a lack of understanding. There are plenty

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Speaker 1: of people out there who do not know that the

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Speaker 1: governor is the person allocating the funding. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the Bible, but I've spent a

672
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Speaker 1: lot of time down south. I can assure you it

673
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Speaker 1: is a lack of understanding with a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: But you can't blame this is a conversation I've been

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Speaker 1: having a lot. You cannot blame voters. People always tell

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Speaker 1: me that. Sometimes I disagree with that, or people say,

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Speaker 1: you can't blame the community. So it's I don't think,

678
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Speaker 1: you know, it's always necessarily about blame, but challenging folks

679
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Speaker 1: who maybe understand the inner workings of how things are

680
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Speaker 1: working in the community, right.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think that it's just a lack of understanding.

682
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Speaker 6: I know I've met plenty of people on the road

683
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Speaker 6: that understand exactly how government works, but they ain't seen

684
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Speaker 6: their elected official in months or ever. I think that's

685
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Speaker 6: just a disconnect. So I'm not saying that. Nope, everybody

686
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Speaker 6: understands I'm also not willing to say that nobody understands.

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Speaker 1: I think that I don't think anybody was making those

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Speaker 1: general terms.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think a lot of people don't understand.

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Speaker 6: But there are a lot of people who are left

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Speaker 6: in the dark and treated like they don't matter by

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Speaker 6: their elected officials.

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Speaker 4: Testimony you wanted.

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Speaker 6: To share, Okay, No, I was gonna say. The one

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Speaker 6: good thing that I think happened from last week when

696
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Speaker 6: we talked, since Tip brought up Ray lewis uh, he

697
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Speaker 6: actually did have the opportunity to connect with Randall Woodfind Randall,

698
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Speaker 6: who is the mayor of Birmingham, reached out to Ray

699
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Speaker 6: and they've had a conversation. So since then, Ray has

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Speaker 6: been in contact with an elected official who seems to

701
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Speaker 6: care very deeply about his situation. Tips. So maybe we're

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Speaker 6: gonna change the narrative one story at a time. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but to your point, Andrew, I think

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Speaker 1: that is the responsibility of mayors, you know, like we

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Speaker 1: all have a role to play. But it can't just

706
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Speaker 1: be like Nail lamp. I don't have the reats to

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Speaker 1: talk to every innern city community.

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Speaker 4: You know, Yes, but it's a lesson but I would

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Speaker 4: suggest would I would say, I think the onus has

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Speaker 4: to be on both sides, right, because it can be

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Speaker 4: I ain't seen my mayor. He don't never come to

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Speaker 4: my house and knock on the door, or to my

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Speaker 4: church or hang out on my neighborhood block. And the

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Speaker 4: assumption or rather the experience that you've not seen the

715
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Speaker 4: mayor there does not equal that the mayor isn't working

716
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Speaker 4: on your behalf because sometimes Randa wood Fin don't need

717
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Speaker 4: to walk the block to be educated on what's happening

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Speaker 4: on the block. Why because he came off that block

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Speaker 4: or he came through this experience, is understanding of what

720
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Speaker 4: it is that is happening and is in the halls

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Speaker 4: of power boxing like nobody's business, trying to make it

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Speaker 4: our priority and bring the resources back home. But that

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Speaker 4: isn't enough either. The mayor then has to make sure

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Speaker 4: that that cycle is being closed by keeping people informed

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Speaker 4: about what you're doing. I used to see it all

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Speaker 4: the time during Biden's administration, was they were doing a

727
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Speaker 4: lot early on particularly that advantage and with the benefit

728
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Speaker 4: of so many people, but not talking about it. He

729
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Speaker 4: was in the you know, he's in the bowels of

730
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Speaker 4: this stuff, but him not talking about it didn't mean

731
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Speaker 4: that it wasn't happening. It was happening, and his failure

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Speaker 4: was a failure to communicate what was happening.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, I agree. Look, I feel like

734
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Speaker 1: we are at the breakdown of society right now. So

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think every single system out there is failing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I've ever mentioned before to

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Speaker 1: you guys that I think the media is failing media.

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Speaker 4: I also think the system and the places where it

739
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Speaker 4: does fail might be intentionally doing so. It is a

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Speaker 4: lot of times not in the interest of people in

741
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Speaker 4: power to have people checking and watching and listening to

742
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Speaker 4: everything that they are doing. And so what do they do.

743
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Speaker 4: They office gate, They make it plain, They put up

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Speaker 4: these uh you know, white out glasses. You can't suit

745
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Speaker 4: through the rooms anymore, Right, you don't get a record

746
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Speaker 4: of what is happening because they don't want you to know.

747
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Speaker 4: They're usually in there doing something they shouldn't be doing

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Speaker 4: in the first place. So to the extent that there

749
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Speaker 4: seems to be a disconnect in some cases, it is

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Speaker 4: a very intentional one.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a wrap. Takisha Lance Bottoms but on

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Speaker 1: the other side of this break, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about y'all in some of your comments you made about

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Speaker 1: the show last week.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into that. We'll see you on our side

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Speaker 3: of the break. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring something up about our last show,

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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you guys, Yes to the

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Speaker 1: listeners out there and the people who tuned into our audience.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I really appreciate the ongoing conversation we have,

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Speaker 1: even if it's frustration, you know, even if it's like

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Speaker 1: tifty your drive me crazy with filling the blank, you know,

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Speaker 1: I still appreciate that because it does feel like when

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Speaker 1: I'm with my people, I just feel at home. I

765
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Speaker 1: feel relaxed. Even if y'all mad at me, is like,

766
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Speaker 1: at least I know the space that you're coming from.

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Speaker 1: And so I have to say I was really disheartened

768
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Speaker 1: at a lot of the comments from last week's show,

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Speaker 1: with people expressing frustration with encouraging them to be in

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Speaker 1: solidarity with people of color, other people of color, and

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Speaker 1: you know, people continue to say things like this what

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Speaker 1: they voted for, this is what they got, And I'm

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Speaker 1: worried about black people and all the things.

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Speaker 6: I thought you was mad at us, you mad at

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Speaker 6: the comments. That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not mad, but just disappointed.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just because I can't deny you said this. Actually, Angel,

778
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Speaker 1: I don't remember what we were talking about, but I

779
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Speaker 1: was disagreeing with someone's thoughts about maybe you were the show,

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Speaker 1: and you were like, but that's their feeling, Like, that's

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Speaker 1: how they feel. And so I'm trying not to be

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Speaker 1: mad to take, you know, a page from your playbook

783
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Speaker 1: and say, well, that's how they feel. But I do

784
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Speaker 1: think it is a part of a narrative that feeds

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Speaker 1: that feeling. And so I just wanted to take thirty

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Speaker 1: seconds and just clarify a few things, the first most

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Speaker 1: important thing being that every single community of color voted

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Speaker 1: by majority for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: The media has.

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Speaker 6: Said one more time, say it one more time, just in.

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Speaker 1: Case, in single community of color voted for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: The media has an intentional narrative to try to pretend

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump built this multi coalition of voters and

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Speaker 1: he did not White people and white people alone put

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Speaker 1: that man in office. And we should not ever be

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Speaker 1: confused about that. I want to give the numbers. Fifty

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Speaker 1: seven percent of indigenous voters Native Americans voted for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: In the Aapi community that's the fastest growing demographic in

799
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Speaker 1: this country, sixty one percent voted for Kamala Harris, of

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Speaker 1: which she is a member through her there. Even in

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Speaker 1: Latino voters, and this is an important one, a majority

802
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Speaker 1: of Latino voters voted for Kamala Harris. An important note

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Speaker 1: here undocumented migrants are not voters, so they did not vote.

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Speaker 1: When you say that's what they voted for, no, they

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Speaker 1: did not. That makes up the bulk of people in

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Speaker 1: these deportations, They did not vote. Sixty two percent of

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Speaker 1: Latino voters. She won this group by a twenty five

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Speaker 1: point margin. Now we get into Latino men, people say, oh, well, Latino.

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Speaker 6: Men voted for her.

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Speaker 1: Even Latino men voted by majority for Kamala Harris. No,

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Speaker 1: Trump did make gains among Latino men. We have to

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Speaker 1: consider in that community. There's I think over eighty countries

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Speaker 1: of origin in the Latino community, but Trump did get

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Speaker 1: significant gains there. The Arab community, everyone's like, well, how

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Speaker 1: that protest vote work out for them?

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Speaker 3: Trump?

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Speaker 1: They not vote for Trump. Kamala Harrison. Donald Trump split

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Speaker 1: that community almost evenly, twenty and twenty one percent, respectively.

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Speaker 1: They voted overwhelmingly for Jill Stein. Now we can talk

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Speaker 1: about how frustrating that is. We can get mad about

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Speaker 1: that Jill Stein. Well, Jill Stein is a liar and

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Speaker 1: she's a manipulator. But I'm gonna tell you if I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing this shit go down in Gaza with my people,

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Speaker 1: and you're asking me to vote for somebody who's only

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Speaker 1: willing to call for a temporary ceasefire, and I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: them bomb hospitals, schools, kill children, tens of thousands buying

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Speaker 1: of starvation, and the person that everybody saying, no, you

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Speaker 1: have to vote for her is only willing to say

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Speaker 1: I will call for a temporary ceasefire. She was willing

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Speaker 1: to go further than Biden, but at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, she was sticking with the Biden administration's policy

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Speaker 1: on Gaza. If you got a bunch of black anybody really,

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Speaker 1: But if you got a bunch of black people dying

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Speaker 1: like that and you're telling me vote for this person,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. So I just think sense

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Speaker 1: of our humanity, we have to understand that Jill Stein

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Speaker 1: ran on Gaza. She had a Muslim running mate. She's

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Speaker 1: also a liar. She's also an accused advocate of the Kremlin.

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Speaker 1: She was seen on Russian television sitting at a table

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Speaker 1: with Putin. This was all intentional. She was working hand

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Speaker 1: in hand with won't call him what they say, a

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Speaker 1: war criminal. She did eventually come out and call him

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Speaker 1: a war criminal, only because she was called out. But

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Speaker 1: but yeah, initially she wouldn't. But she was literally paying

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Speaker 1: when of Donald Trump's personal lawyers, Republicans were eagerly fighting

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Speaker 1: for her to get on the ballot in States, she was,

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Speaker 1: you know, an op. And it's the same way that

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Speaker 1: they were able to peel off a tiny, a useful tool.

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Speaker 1: It was the same way they were able to peel

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Speaker 1: off a slither, a slither of black men. But again,

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Speaker 1: the narrative is, oh, Trump got all these black men

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Speaker 1: to vote for him. No, he increased his gains with

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Speaker 1: black men, but he did not. Black men voted overwhelming

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Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris. So I just think if we can

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Speaker 1: start there, but let's just put all that aside for

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Speaker 1: a moment. I just wonder, can we tap into our humanity,

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Speaker 1: you know, and give a fuck about what people are

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Speaker 1: going through. And that's the part that's kind of heartbreaking

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Speaker 1: to me that so many people were like, who cares?

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Speaker 1: But there was I wasn't telling you this is Angela.

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Speaker 1: There was a fair criticism of me, I thought, and

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Speaker 1: they were saying, well, tiffany one. They felt like I

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Speaker 1: was finger wagging, like shame on you for not caring,

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Speaker 1: and a part of me does feel that wing but sorry.

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Speaker 3: But I do feel like we care.

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Speaker 1: But also they were like, what are the specifics? Like

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Speaker 1: what are you asking us to do? And the truth is,

868
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is because right now I

869
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: am in a space of trying to gather my own beliefs.

870
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm not in a space to uphold the system right now.

871
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm in a space of what does protecting community look like?

872
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: And I have thoughts on that, But I want to

873
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, have you seen anything? Is there any

874
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: tangible work right now that has stopped something disadministration is

875
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: doing because I've not seen it. Are not going to hold.

876
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I've seen some things with the court. I don't think

877
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: they're going to hold, but I want the audience that point.

878
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: But to this point, they have and including protests right

879
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: when they started to let's go back to the McCain flip,

880
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: when he went down to the floor in thumbs down. Right,

881
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: That was after as a result of overwhelming shows of

882
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 4: outrage by the American people saying you about to kick

883
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: me off my healthcare. It is no longer any theoretical fight. No, no, no.

884
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: But I went back that far just to come forward,

885
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: which is to say, this administration has announced departures from

886
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: the status quo at veterans affairs with cuts. They come

887
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: forward frankly with scrubbing websites of certain information, and after

888
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: certain outcries have had to put it back. They've attempted

889
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: to shutter departments that judges have for their hand on,

890
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: and they've had the reverse course or bring it to

891
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: a complete and total holt. Now, yes, the administration is

892
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: flouting the law in some of these instances, but yes,

893
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: also in some of these instances, and many of them,

894
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: these judges are holding accountable those lawyers that are in

895
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: their court rooms who have an obligation under the law

896
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 4: as officers of the court to one speak truth, but

897
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 4: also to follow the mandates of the court or suffer

898
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 4: thy consequences. They may be able to put Donald Trump

899
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: behind bars, but they can put Pam Bondi behind bars

900
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: anything or in the federal system. I'm just saying there

901
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: are consequences for flouting the law and flouting the jurisdiction

902
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: of the judges in the courts. But also I get

903
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: why everyone doesn't know the stories in which we've been successful.

904
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: They don't want us to think that there is a

905
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: way to beating them, so they're not elevating the stories

906
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 4: in which they've been beat They've been clapped back, beaten

907
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: contained quite a bit. It hasn't had it hasn't so

908
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: far been able to stop them from what they're doing wholesale.

909
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: But we've paused them, and the courts have stopped them

910
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: in their track on many of those on many of

911
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: those efforts. I just think we what we cannot do

912
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 4: is make the road for them easy. When you lie

913
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: down and you say what they're gonna do, what they're

914
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: gonna do, Well, guess what, We've got enough evidence that

915
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: they've changed course, or been forced to change course, or

916
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: have completely retreated in some instances. And that's really how

917
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: I feel you all about this budget that the Republicans.

918
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: I'm not changing topic. I just want to pile on here.

919
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: You want to talk about the budget, so we can

920
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: talk about it here or we can get into it

921
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: on the minipid, because I do want to.

922
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Speaker 4: Simply say, seventeen and a half million people they are

923
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: right now trying to cut off from having access to

924
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: health care. And for those individuals that they're cutting off

925
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: from having access to health care, they're also in this

926
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 4: legislation closing the door to them being able to go

927
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: on the exchange which came through Obamacare and purchased their

928
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: own insurance there. So if you are not awake to

929
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 4: the threats that are coming for our seniors and those

930
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: individuals who are benefit who are beneficiaries of Medicaid, which

931
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: by the way, seniors also benefit from Medicaid as well

932
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: as Medicare, but Medicaid as well, especially those in poverty.

933
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Speaker 4: And then let me tell you just to draw the

934
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: line complete those of us who have insurance, when that's

935
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: seventeen and a half so million people are removed. If

936
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 4: they have their way, and they still access health care,

937
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: except this time not through prevention and ongoing maintenance, but

938
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: through the emergency room. Those costs get passed on by

939
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: the insurers directly to us. The reason our prices will

940
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: go up, the reason our premiums what we have to

941
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: pay before they kick in, will increase, is because they

942
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: are now going to have to make space to get

943
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 4: back the money for the services that they're now being

944
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: forced to provide through emergency rooms and emergency room visits.

945
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: They've got to extract that cost somewhere, and where did

946
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: they go. Those of us who have insurance will pay

947
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 4: more to pay for those that they just kicked off

948
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 4: of insurance. So nobody's getting away here.

949
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: But you're just so I'm clear, you're saying the thing

950
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Speaker 1: that has stopped the Trump administration.

951
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Speaker 3: Are the courts.

952
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: The courts have to stopped.

953
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Something, and protests. When you say protests, you mean like

954
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: literally people in the streets, on the streets, their members

955
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: and some pages on the website, well.

956
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 4: Not just website, I don't mean just website. They've also

957
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 4: so if they intended to cut staff at veterans Affairs,

958
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: as one other example, right, bringing your level of service

959
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: to a screeching halt, right, you won't get callbacks. You

960
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: can get scheduled for six months, and your issue is

961
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: urgent and right now, but nobody can see to it

962
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: because there's nobody there to see to it. What did

963
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: they do? They backtrack on it when they there were

964
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: certain museums, certain government buildings, the Department of Peace, they

965
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 4: tried to go in wholesale shut down just yes. This

966
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: week the judge said, you don't have jurisdiction over that.

967
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: You don't even own the building. The building doesn't even

968
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 4: belonged to the federal government. Get out of there. Well

969
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: they have to do. What do they have to do.

970
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: They had to get out of there, and they were

971
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 4: they were accused of trespassing because the workers shut them

972
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: down and said, no, you can't. You cannot break into

973
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Speaker 4: this building.

974
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that people are asking, what are we asking

975
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: them to do?

976
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: Protests if it's happening protests. I'm just giving one example

977
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: that people have disqualified the effect and the impact of

978
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: good old fashioned raising your voice, making calls and showing

979
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: up and telling your story.

980
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and like, let them get

981
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: out there and protest, like you know, I'm not thank you.

982
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: They're coming up my street, down my driveway trying to

983
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: take my stuff. I ain't wait, No nobody is in me.

984
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm going out there.

985
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: For the same same stop trying to get in.

986
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

987
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: I have a few things. One is I think is

988
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: I really would love for us to stop saying that

989
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 6: black people overall are not protesting. It's just nice.

990
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: I agree.

991
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 6: I just I like, let's just start there. Like, I'm

992
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 6: not protesting in that way. I'm focused on making sure

993
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 6: that we're all connected and we know how to survive collectively.

994
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: But there are black people who are actively protesting at

995
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 6: all of these major activations, So let's start there. The

996
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 6: second thing I want to say is there are some courts,

997
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 6: even some judges, to the risk of being threatened of arrest,

998
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 6: who are showing up to in their required duty as

999
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 6: a as an official branch of government, to challenge and

1000
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: to take on and to hold accountable this administration. And

1001
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 6: I don't want to be little that including surprise, surprise,

1002
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 6: Clarence Thomas Dahuchi actually showed up as saying some good

1003
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 6: other day at court. So I want to just be

1004
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 6: clear about the fact that there are some people that

1005
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 6: are saying, you know, enough is enough, John Roberts, who

1006
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 6: they're challenging. And then I also want to knowledge that

1007
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 6: there are members of Congress and a mayor that we

1008
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 6: had on just last week, who are showing up in

1009
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 6: their official capacities, just doing business as normal, just engaging

1010
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: in their oversight responsibilities, just ensuring that you know, uh,

1011
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 6: when you have a a migrant facility, the one that's

1012
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: in Newark where Lamonica mc iver is now being threatened

1013
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 6: with an assault charge for showing up. But I'm saying

1014
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 6: I think that it could very well get thrown out. Right,

1015
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 6: I'm clear about the fact it is a.

1016
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: Which should update Rasparakas was it is a false charge.

1017
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 6: I'm talking about Lamonica mc ivor right now.

1018
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was just.

1019
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 6: From all right, So on Lamonica mc ivor, a false

1020
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 6: charge that she is now facing where she will have

1021
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 6: to have an attorney, she will have to raise funds

1022
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 6: to fight this charge merely in her oversight capacity after

1023
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 6: she was allegedly violent with officers where there's no documentation

1024
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 6: or proof of this. She gets the charge or she

1025
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 6: gets the tour for the very thing that she showed

1026
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: up to do with other members of Congress, which is

1027
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 6: in their full oversight responsibility. What they really don't want

1028
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 6: you to know is the migrants in that facility, going

1029
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 6: full circle to Tip's point, are not just brown people.

1030
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 6: They are black and brown people. So y'all can try

1031
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 6: to make it in us versus them as much as

1032
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 6: you want to, you're gonna miss out on what it

1033
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 6: means to protect us. If they are willing to lock

1034
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: up the mayor of Newark, if they are willing to

1035
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 6: press charges against a sitting member of Congress, it ain't

1036
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 6: no black or brown body that is safe in this country.

1037
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 6: And we will do better if we all come together.

1038
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 6: And that is the point from last week. That is

1039
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: the point from this week. I don't know how many

1040
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 6: black examples y'all need, but if you don't start paying

1041
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 6: attention to it, I'm telling you you're not safe. These

1042
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 6: people took oath and are being charged and arrested because

1043
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: they're doing their duties of the oath they took. That

1044
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 6: is what's at stake. And if you don't understand what

1045
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 6: time it is, I don't know. Maybe we need to

1046
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: get large fishburn to come on the handle up boom

1047
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 6: people and their arresting lawmakers. It's like, what does that

1048
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: mean for the everyday person? And those are some of

1049
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 6: the comments, right, Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, but those

1050
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 6: are some of the comments too that people were saying, like,

1051
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 6: if we go out there and protests, we on the

1052
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 6: front lines. But I think it's an important point that

1053
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 6: you made about this narrative that like, no black people

1054
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 6: are doing anything. I definitely don't want to echo that

1055
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 6: because that's not true. But this was a lot of

1056
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 6: the comments like, no, y'all want my nerves. I give

1057
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: people space because in their mind, their rest is their protests,

1058
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: but it's not stopping anything, you know. And I because

1059
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: this this pissed me off too. You guys, there's a

1060
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 6: difference between rest as self care. Rest is certainly a

1061
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 6: form of self care. But if you are watching your

1062
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 6: full neighbors sink, starve, be unhoused, not be able to

1063
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 6: pay bills, your rest is selfish and somebody needs to

1064
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 6: tell you that. I don't know what that is. I

1065
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 6: ain't been raised around those black folks like that, and

1066
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 6: I don't want y'all nowhere near me. So sleep your

1067
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 6: ass off, but stay away from me, because I don't

1068
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 6: know what time y'all are on. I'm not about to

1069
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 6: watch all these people suffer who look like me to

1070
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 6: take a goddamn nap, like I'm just not doing that.

1071
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 6: So y'all some other stuff. I don't like that at

1072
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 6: all in this I think that's real selfish if I could.

1073
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Speaker 4: In the spirit of accountability. Yes, after the election, you

1074
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: all sounded a lot like the voices that we heard.

1075
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Speaker 4: Let me finish making my point, okay, because I think

1076
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: we can't talk at folks as if we hadn't been

1077
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: there ourselves and you all, both of the three of us.

1078
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: I was never there, but we're basic. But the rest

1079
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Speaker 4: of them, I'm concerned about mystery and the people who

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Speaker 4: I love. That's where you were, but I know you are.

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Speaker 4: But let me just make room for the possibility that

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Speaker 4: we all need our own time and space for growth

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Speaker 4: to grow in like their phases of of of I'm

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Speaker 4: just trying to survive. Thank you, I need you mostly

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Speaker 4: just survive. But but just like their phases of grief,

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Speaker 4: folks have to come to the place that's true, where

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Speaker 4: it is now more clear to me the thing that

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Speaker 4: I've got to do in order to survive. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not I'm not even I'm not even suggesting that you

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Speaker 4: take actions to the benefit of your neighbor. What I'm

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Speaker 4: suggesting is you take I think where people have to

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Speaker 4: get to. Sometimes the problem has to travel not just

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Speaker 4: down our street, but up our walkway, down the driveway,

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Speaker 4: into the garage or under the covered patio or whatever

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Speaker 4: that is before we understand what the stakes are. Because

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Speaker 4: other than that, the stakes we're dealing with are I

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Speaker 4: got to keep a roof over my head, food on

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Speaker 4: the table, my kids fed and dressed, and keep my

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Speaker 4: job so I can get income and repeat this, you know,

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Speaker 4: this cycle next month. So I just think we think.

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Speaker 4: I think I understand the sentiment, even if it isn't

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Speaker 4: one that I share for myself. But I think the

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Speaker 4: best thing we can do is hope that folks can

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Speaker 4: recover much quicker than we have been recovered.

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Speaker 1: I think people are fully real I don't think people

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Speaker 1: are completely engaged. I don't think people fully realize that

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Speaker 1: we are about to go through some bad times.

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Speaker 4: That's well, the bad times have already started, and for

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Speaker 4: most people, they think they've been in it already for

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Speaker 4: a long time. But the truth is, if it has

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Speaker 4: been that way before, let's just multiply it. And I

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Speaker 4: don't mean that to be sensational. I simply mean it is.

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Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is is these folks are

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Speaker 4: coming for everything that's it. You can see it in

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Speaker 4: their movements, you can hear it and what they say.

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Speaker 4: And we could keep being entrapped by this idea that

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Speaker 4: he says one things, but he really doesn't mean it, y'all.

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Speaker 4: He said it, he meant it. They're taking action on it,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to figure out hella hogh water one

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Speaker 4: way or another, how to get there. Take for instance,

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Speaker 4: he wants to go after it. We talked about what

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Speaker 4: is it the place where you give money for Democrats

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Speaker 4: Act Blue? Right, Well, guess what in this legislation that

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Speaker 4: the Republicans are considering right now. They want to make

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Speaker 4: it a unilateral decision that the president can determine who

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Speaker 4: is a nonprofit and who is not. The president can

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Speaker 4: determine that if you're an organization that renders service to

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Speaker 4: people who are immigrants in this country, that you are

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Speaker 4: a seditionist, that you are a traitor to the country,

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Speaker 4: and you should be treated as a terrorist sympathizing organization.

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Speaker 4: And without any rule of law and designation will allow

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Speaker 4: the administration to do with us. No, this is all connected.

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Speaker 4: We are indivisible in this thing. No fight here yesterday.

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Speaker 6: No, but wait a minute, because you said some of it.

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Speaker 6: I just want to be accountable. Just one second, just

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Speaker 6: one It's not even a production timeout, it's just a

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Speaker 6: a time out. Okay. I receive what you're saying about

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Speaker 6: people having to arrive in their own time. What I

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 6: think is not fair to everybody, But I'm my own.

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Speaker 6: My stuff is. I'm feeling the pressure and the fierce

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Speaker 6: urgency of now, and I am terrified that in our rest,

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Speaker 6: whoever's resting among us, we're going to miss the moment.

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Speaker 6: And I don't want people who I love and care

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Speaker 6: about in my community, in the culture to be left

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Speaker 6: behind because they thought they had more time than they

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01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 6: do to that right, like like do Like people are

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Speaker 6: feeling like already helpless. So while we're losing people on

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Speaker 6: rest that are fully capable, fully gifted, fully talented, fully resourced,

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Speaker 6: and we can't tap into them because they are on

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Speaker 6: a boycott right now, like keep boycott and target, but

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Speaker 6: show up us.

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Speaker 4: We can't browbeat them back out to the streets. We

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Speaker 4: have to come.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you have to come to their own

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Speaker 1: right when you felt that way. If somebody on November

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Speaker 1: ninth was like Angel, like what are you doing? Like

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Speaker 1: you we we I think we have to get out

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Speaker 1: of the habit of centering ourselves, which is the hardest

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Speaker 1: thing because it's like, because I care about this thing today,

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Speaker 1: everybody else should care about this thing.

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Speaker 3: Every you're going to come to the right.

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Speaker 1: I think we're both We're all saying that, all three

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Speaker 1: person are saying we are in this path of destruction together.

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Speaker 1: It takes together. And what will it take to get

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Speaker 1: people motivated? What our audience is asking is, okay, fine,

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: you want me to stop resting. What specifically are you

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01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: asking me to do? And how specifically will that stop

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01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: this shit show that we're seeing? And I think that's

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01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: a legitimate question. Let me just say is what I

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01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: just have one idea, okay, because I've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: it that I don't act in haste and so and

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Speaker 1: I don't thrive in chaos. Right now, it's so it's

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Speaker 1: like chaos, and so sometimes for me, when it's chaos,

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Speaker 1: I have to take a step back and just observe,

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Speaker 1: you know, just read, write, talk to folks, not not

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Speaker 1: necessarily in an organized way, but like just talk to

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Speaker 1: people on my terms, my time, Like let me figure

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Speaker 1: out what the fuck is going on. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've been in that space for probably

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Speaker 1: three months now, and I have come up with an

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: idea that's not all the way thought through, and I

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Speaker 1: think a part of it is a reverse migration, which

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Speaker 1: is why I want to have Charles Blow on the show.

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Speaker 1: But I think what would happen if we build our

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: own little Wakandan communities in the rural south and reshape

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01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: the political map of America. We don't have to talk

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Speaker 1: about it now, but I like what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: I think what's frustrating is because even for the three

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: of us, we've not been in conversation. That is part

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Speaker 6: of what's happening on the tour, the reason we have

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Speaker 6: the Acre Boys on the tour. I'm serious, I know

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Speaker 6: everything goes back to the tour.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's not that I got something to

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: say about it. We're go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I definitely want to hear. But we have like even

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Speaker 6: the stuff that Cliff and Latasha and them are working on,

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 6: same thing, like trying to create co op communities and

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Speaker 6: farming communities to ensure that our folks have food and

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Speaker 6: resource in case that's cut off in the stores. I

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Speaker 6: think even with the Acre Boys, where they like they

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Speaker 6: put up a post yesterday on where black folks can

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Speaker 6: buy land for reasonable costs in the South. That is

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Speaker 6: absolutely a part of it and has to be a

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Speaker 6: part of it. I'd love to have that conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I think I think why I laugh a little

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01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: is because I think the tour has been awesome for

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: people who have curiosity about like what it's like in

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01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: these communities and what's happening and what where the work is.

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Speaker 1: That work is happening independent of the tour a lot

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Speaker 1: of places as Yeah, So I'm just saying, like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing this in isolation. This is also from you know, work, reading,

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Speaker 1: my upbringing, family, you know, different things that I do. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: I know you know in Florida you do, and we'll

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Speaker 1: all be together in Jackson, you know. You and I've

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Speaker 1: talked about the work I did in Jackson some years ago,

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Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to do that stop on

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Speaker 1: the tour.

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Speaker 3: But I also I.

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Speaker 1: Don't I don't know the tangible results of that either,

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Speaker 1: and so I guess I'm just looking at what can

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Speaker 1: I do selfishly. I'm looking at what can I do

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Speaker 1: for safety.

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Speaker 6: For me and my family?

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Speaker 3: Immediately?

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Speaker 1: Oh, he can we talk about your thing yet, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say it if we can't. I'm also concerned.

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Speaker 6: About your ready to talk about Yeah, I'm concerned about

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Speaker 6: my safety too. I'll be ready to talk about it

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Speaker 6: next week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, next week because we are if I could, well,

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: you know what, can I callow us right there? This

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: conversation is so robust? Can we pick this up on

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: the Mini pid. Y'all got to tune in tomorrow. Okay

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Speaker 1: for all the folks who are listening right now, we're

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: going to wrap up, but we're going to keep the

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: conversation going, so please be sure to tune in to

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: the Mini pod where we will finish this conversation because

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01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: we have a lot of things to say. Do y'all

1239
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: want to do a CTA real quick or you always want

1240
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: to go straight to minsictas.

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Speaker 4: I just want to folks to know or FAM you

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: the battle is not over. There's another vote that must

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01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: take place. FAM you has not been wholesale taken over

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: by anything. Why because they are not fam you. We

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01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 4: are the institution. Somebody asked case. She said, do I

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01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 4: keep my money? Do I save it? What do I

1247
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 4: put it? Guess what? That's our university. It ain't theirs,

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Speaker 4: and I don't care who the NAMN president is. I

1249
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 4: do care, but on the real fam you doesn't belong

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: to any one individual that you can't drive me out

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: of my house. I'm driving your ass out of my house.

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: You're not going to drive me off. My campus is homecoming.

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 4: It's my homecoming. You're not welcome. You're not going to

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 4: keep me from giving money to scholarship my cousins and

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: them who are coming up after me, because it's my money.

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01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 4: Those are my cousins and it's my campus. So stay involved.

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: If you want to know more, keep keep keep. We

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 4: got a town hall meeting tomorrow night. I think we

1259
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 4: put the alert out last night. And although these something

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Speaker 4: like seventeen hundred people of RSVP, this sweet, that's right,

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Speaker 4: it'll be out. You're right, Thank you, Tiff. That's my CTA.

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Speaker 3: Do you having GTA.

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Speaker 6: Yes, connect with people in your communities, y'all. I'm not

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 6: meaning to say that you can only get this work

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 6: on the tour. I'm just saying there are a lot

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 6: of people who are connecting across cities, across states, across

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 6: the country who are been doing similar work. And it

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Speaker 6: has been remarkable to watch people who've been doing similar things,

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 6: have similar ideologies finally be fully resourced and supported with

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 6: folks who are thinking like them all over the country.

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Speaker 6: So check us out at State of THEPPL dot com.

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Speaker 1: Come through and we'll be in Jackson together and shout

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: out to all the folks who are working hard on

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: statements of people tour and follows them on Instagram. Okay,

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: please tune in, you guys, cause we'ren'n keep this conversation going. Also,

1276
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: please be sure that you like and subscribe and share

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: and tell your friends about us. You know, new episodes

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01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: drop every Thursday and Friday, so you can hear this

1279
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: next part of the conversation on Friday. And you can

1280
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: check out solo pods with Angela and Andrew on Mondays

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01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: and Tuesdays. And please be sure to check out our

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01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: girl Jamil Hill on Politics and Off the Cup the

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01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: other shows on Reason Choice Media. There are five hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty days until midterm elections.

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Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all, work from home, Welcome home.

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Speaker 2: The last morning see thank you for joining the natives.

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Attention to what the info and all of the latest

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Speaker 2: Roy Gilliam Cross connected to the statements that you leave

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Speaker 2: on our socials. Thank you sincerely for the patients. Reason

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Speaker 2: for your choice is clear, so grateful to execute role.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for serve, defendit, protective bank you in this case,

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Speaker 2: and we'll welcome home to all.

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Speaker 4: Of the natives. We thank you.

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