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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Wednesday, April. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all for the kind words on the Charles Robinson interview.

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Speaker 1: Apparently you liked everything except Aaron Rodgers versus the Packers

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Speaker 1: front office. I guess we have a lot of Packers fans,

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Speaker 1: rob g I was unaware of that, but uh yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Charles Robinson dropping some serious knowledge NFL Draft. I think

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Speaker 1: we're two weeks away now, two weeks in a day,

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Speaker 1: fifteen days from the NFL Draft. Will go heavy on

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Speaker 1: it obviously next week. Um, but for now, I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do an NBA show today, And truthfully, I

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Speaker 1: could have done this yesterday. Um. Of course there was

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Speaker 1: the little Julian Edelman retirement thing that uh we we

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Speaker 1: dear to my heart, and listen, I probably will end

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Speaker 1: up rambling and in some way, shape or form blasting

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Speaker 1: this guy. I shouldn't. I've tried not to, but I might.

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Speaker 1: And his name is Reggie Miller, and I should say

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Speaker 1: I talked about I. I hosted the Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday Morning with Jason Smith, and we ended up

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Speaker 1: talking a lot about this Reggie Miller comment. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you guys have seen it by now. Reggie Miller, the

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Speaker 1: great shooter from the nineties. Yeah, I guess a couple

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Speaker 1: of years in the eighties, but ended up u c

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Speaker 1: Jordan's bulls. Then he did. When Jordan quit for the

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Speaker 1: second time, they lose in the finals to Kobe and Shack.

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Speaker 1: It's competitive. Reggie Miller had this to say, if Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan's would have called me and tried to sway me

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Speaker 1: go f himself. Okay, So the greatest player of all

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Speaker 1: time at the time, Michael Jordan's was allegedly gonna call

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, who could never get by Arden, and say, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: come joined his forces with us. You know, John Paxson

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Speaker 1: is nice, Steve Kerr is nice, but Reggie Miller, Man,

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Speaker 1: that would be an upgraded shooting guard. You know what,

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Speaker 1: should come play with us? Reggie. In this fictitious scenario,

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller would have said, hell no, and I just

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Speaker 1: I gotta call BS on this. And the weird part is.

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Speaker 1: I posted this on social media, and I didn't think

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Speaker 1: people would freak out like they did. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: We're twenty four hours in, We're maybe thirty hours in,

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Speaker 1: can't believe you think this, blah blah blah. Yeah, Reggie

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Speaker 1: Miller stinks as an announcer, but guys in the nineties

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Speaker 1: in in life, everything now, everything is different and better

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Speaker 1: guys can't argue that the advances in technology, medicine, science, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: you name it, every single aspect, everything gets better. And

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Speaker 1: that was the case. Baseball players in the nineties were good.

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Speaker 1: They were all juice in baseball. Pictures are better now.

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Speaker 1: Recovery from injuries much better now. And one aspect that

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Speaker 1: empowerment era. Yes, it is better. I'm sure Rob g

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Speaker 1: will push back on that. I'm sure I'll get people

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Speaker 1: dming me on Instagram. Oh, this era is terrible guys.

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Speaker 1: We're better in everything else, including the NBA. Think about

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Speaker 1: it like this for a second. The NBA has essentially

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Speaker 1: solved a math equation right now that they couldn't solve

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Speaker 1: of in the nineties. In the nineties, it was let's

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Speaker 1: analytics um in basketball science, all this stuff is grown.

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Speaker 1: And you know what else has grown? Social media. Think

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Speaker 1: AU and the growth of AU basketball has only made

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Speaker 1: He's virtually unstoppable in his second year in the league.

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Speaker 1: Some of the numbers he's putting up are off the charts.

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Speaker 1: we're now smarter as players that we don't need to

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Speaker 1: ever come back when I say this. Kevin Durant was

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Speaker 1: Sam Presty, he's a genius. Sam Presty trades James Harden.

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Speaker 1: They never got back to the finals. Okay, they never

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Speaker 1: hear they just weren't good enough. No, they traded their

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Speaker 1: everything is better. Teams are now realizing, Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out and do it myself. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go out and recruit X y Z. Why would

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Speaker 1: you know what, the Warriors really want me, Chucks, Lebron's

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Speaker 1: See what it's like. This is what happens now. You

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Speaker 1: the players are actively recruiting. That's normal. When you can

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Speaker 1: you couldn't text in the ear. You can text anybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks in the league. Everybody knows what

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Speaker 1: career in Toronto. Everybody's always trying to prolong their career.

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Speaker 1: But the the perfect example is Charles Barkley, who's in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: is different, Reggie Miller said. If Jordan's called players didn't

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Speaker 1: not how it was done. The player forced their way.

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Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. The Houston Rockets. What did they do

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Speaker 1: couple of levels, the prolifer proliferation of media. This has

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Internet. Also the player's connectivity. We're all connected.

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Speaker 1: This is a global economy. I know you guys have

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Speaker 1: a global economy. We also have a global NBA. Do

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Speaker 1: fair comparison. One of the big knots on players. He's

421
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: never carried a team, He's never had the opportunity to

422
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Speaker 1: do that. Like, how do we know? I mean, I'm not.

423
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could could average Reggie Miller

424
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: numbers um a game, Like, I don't see why couldn't

425
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: if he was the guy. Uh as you said, he's

426
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: a much better defender, Like I would I mean, it's

427
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: not even close. I would take Clay Thompson over Reggie

428
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: Miller in a heartbeat. If if you're giving me like

429
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: who would I rather have? Of course, And I think

430
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard is just a far superior player. So I

431
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's a good comparison either. I mean,

432
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller is a unique guy historically to try to

433
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Speaker 1: compare because if you just look at his accounting stats,

434
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: they're not impressive. If you look at his all NBA

435
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: you just mentioned three time third team All n b A.

436
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's good, but it's not you know, upper

437
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: echelon all time level, and you brought it up yourself.

438
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: The only playoffs success he ever had was when number

439
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: one Michael Jordan wasn't there. Number two at the back

440
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: end of his career, when he wasn't the reason why

441
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: the Pacers got to the finals to begin with, Like

442
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: that team was more about you know, Mark Jackson and

443
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Rick Smith. It was like a collective. It wasn't Reggie

444
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: Miller leading these guys to the NBA finals. And then

445
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: a few years later when the Pacers had their best

446
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: team that was derailed by the Malice in the Palace,

447
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: that was Jermaine O'Neil, Stephen Jackson, Ron Artest, like Reggie

448
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 1: Miller was on the team but he was not the

449
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: guy or one of the even one of the top

450
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: guys that got him to that point. So you probably

451
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: remember their finals against the Lakers better than I do.

452
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: But wasn't Jalen Rhodes the best player on their team?

453
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: And that's yes, Jalen Rose was the best player. And

454
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: they had the David brothers who were both really good

455
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: as well. The Davis brothers they were they were still around. Yes,

456
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to call it. Yeah, let me look

457
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: at the saw basketball reference. Um, oh boy, Jermaine Shack O'Neil,

458
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: who what a beat down? Actually, Reggie Miller averaged twenty

459
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: four in that series. He was thirty four years old.

460
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Rose put up twenty three a game. Austin Crozer,

461
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I forgot about him. Rick Smith's Mark Jackson, Dale Davis Um,

462
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Sam Perkins, Sam. I am big fan of his work. Um,

463
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: they were, he was, He was good. But that team

464
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: was a collective unit. It was not Reggie Miller and

465
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Speaker 1: the Pacers like you see on the big UH TV advertisement.

466
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't Shock in the Lakers, you know, or Tim

467
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: Duncan and the Spurs. It was the Indiana Pacers like

468
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: they were a team. They was not Reggie Miller and

469
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Speaker 1: the guys. That's not what it was. And the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they went up two oh in the series

471
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Speaker 1: and then the Pacers won Game three. Um, but that

472
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Speaker 1: that never it never felt like the Lakers were in

473
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Speaker 1: any jeopardy in that series. And again, this was twenty

474
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Speaker 1: years ago, so I don't remember exactly. Um yeah, and

475
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: it looks like Kobe Bryant didn't even play in Game three. Yeah,

476
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: he had an ankle injurers, he had an angle, he

477
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: had an ankle injury. Okay, that's probably why. Um, good memory,

478
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: Rob Jeez, Laker fan. So I don't know, like, why

479
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: do you believe that Reggie Miller would definitely not have

480
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: joined forces with Jordan's I I think that as a whole,

481
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: And you brought up some specific guys that are, you know,

482
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: counter to this, with Charles and Scottie and and late

483
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: career Dominique, But I think as a whole. Back then,

484
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: AU was not as big as it is now. So

485
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: these guys didn't really know each other to the same

486
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: level that they do now. You know, they they they

487
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: knew each other, they had some of the same social circles,

488
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: but you know, as you mentioned, cell phones weren't around.

489
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Social media wasn't around, so they could not just text

490
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: or d M each other in the middle of the night,

491
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: like hey, great game. You know, let's get a dinner

492
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: next time. I'm gonna sit in the city whatever. Like

493
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Speaker 1: That's not really the way it worked. They were more

494
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Speaker 1: insulated within their own cities, and so I think that

495
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: most of these guys never really crossed their mind to

496
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: want a team up because they have really been done

497
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: up until that point. Like, no, nobody was really doing

498
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: that at that point, you know. I mean, I know

499
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm on the younger side of this spectrum,

500
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: but I can't recall too many marquee players changing teams

501
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: before Shack, Like before Shack decided I'm gonna dip in

502
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: because I want to play in this city. I know

503
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Kareem had done it before, but his his situation was

504
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: for different reasons than what Shock wanted. You know, Shaq

505
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: wanted the big pay day because he even said multiple

506
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: times I would have stayed in Orlando had they offered

507
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: me the most money, and they didn't want to do it.

508
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Well they had also, it sounds like it sounds like

509
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: there was some petty hardaway Shack who's the Alpha deal

510
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: and and the Orlando Magic kind of dragged their feet

511
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Speaker 1: a little bit. But listen, you you can't fault these

512
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Speaker 1: guys for where they want to go. You know, just

513
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: because they were drafted into Orlando or New Orleans, they

514
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Speaker 1: don't have to stay there. I agree, but I think

515
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Speaker 1: that at that point in in the NBA history, you know,

516
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, these guys may have felt that

517
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't leave, like that's how things were done. Yeah,

518
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: that they had they had to stick it out and

519
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: try to win one for the city. And it just

520
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: so happens that guys like Magic Johnson were drafted into

521
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: great situations where they didn't have to leave. You know,

522
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: Larry Bird ends up being the missing piece to a

523
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Speaker 1: Celtics team that already had some talent, you know, even

524
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: though they didn't have a great record, but they already

525
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Speaker 1: had guys in place, you know, other than than Michael

526
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Jordan who went to the was it the cocaine circus Bulls,

527
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Speaker 1: And eventually they added guys around him, so it's not

528
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Speaker 1: like he was by himself, you know. They added Scotty,

529
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: they added Coup coach they were able to get horrors grant,

530
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: you know that that kind of stuff happened organically, and

531
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't until later where guys started to really take

532
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Speaker 1: their future to their own hands and make their own decisions. Yeah.

533
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: So this this whole idea that oh, players are soft

534
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: because they want a team up. I just it's just

535
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: an ignorant comment, and it pretends like social media doesn't

536
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: exist and that we're not more connected than ever before.

537
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Back in in the nineties, like there was Sports Center,

538
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know what else there was, Like if

539
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: you didn't see the highlights, and I don't think they've

540
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: ran Sports Center around the clock. It wasn't You couldn't

541
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: just go on your phone and watch highlights or go

542
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: on the internet. It just did that wasn't like that.

543
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: It was different now when when Curry's dropping fifty three,

544
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: when he's in the middle of carving up the nuggets

545
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: as he was a couple of nights ago, you know,

546
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: I start getting text yo, got to watch Curry. He's

547
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: got twenty one after the first quarter, and then you

548
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: jump on social media and you can see the highlights

549
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: of what he's done instantly, and then you can text

550
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: your other friends, and now everybody's watching and people are

551
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: chiming in, and that's just the new NBA. We're all connected.

552
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm out on Reggie Miller. Rob

553
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Maybe you can try to book him as a guest,

554
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you know. I'm sure I would let him come on

555
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: here and trash me if he wanted. That's fine. I

556
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: don't think he cares. He's Reggie freaking Miller. Fox Sports

557
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

558
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot

559
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f

560
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: s R to listen live at any rate. Can we

561
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: quickly talk about the Luca Dontage thing. Sure, I don't

562
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: know if you caught wind of it, but he really

563
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: was sounding off like, hold on, we play the whole

564
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: season to get the seventh seed, and then we gotta

565
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: play a playing game to stay in the playoffs. So

566
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: if if you're the seventh seed and you're playing game

567
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: is against the eighth seed, whoever wins that get seven

568
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: and then nine and ten play and that winner plays

569
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Speaker 1: eight is do I have that right? And then eight

570
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: plays the winner or nine in ten to see who

571
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Speaker 1: gets the eight spot. Seven. Theoretically you could be seven,

572
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: lose and then lose again and you're out of the

573
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: play us right correct, See Luca sees the writing on

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00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: the wall. Yo, if Porzingis ain't here last year, we

575
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: have fun against the Clippers, and if Porzingis isn't here

576
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: and we happen to go down to I don't know

577
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: who he is even eight now the spurs um and

578
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: then you know, we lose to Zion or Damian Lillard, whoever.

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00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: It is like, that's some bs and and Luca Danche

580
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: is just not happy, and neither is Mark Cuban. Apparently

581
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: they're both all of a sudden ticked off. Now would

582
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: they be saying this if they were the four seed

583
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: or the three? Uh? Probably not. But I tend to

584
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: agree with him though, I think that the playing tournament

585
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: was a bad idea from the start because it, similarly

586
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: to the pushback with the college football playoff, the minute

587
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: you add this extra wrinkle, it devalues so much of

588
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the regular season come on. Their regulation has already evalued. Yeah,

589
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: but what like he he made a good point. You know,

590
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: if you play seventy games and you get to the

591
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: seven and your five games up on the ten seed.

592
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: In what world is it fair that the ten seed

593
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: can still make the playoffs because they got hot in

594
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Speaker 1: the last week. Because Steph Curry is good enough on

595
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: his own to win three games, because he can shoot

596
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: and score fifty three points, we beat him. Is it?

597
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Is it that easy? I mean, I hate to boil

598
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: it down to like two words, but you know, win

599
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the game. But that's that's go ahead. No, No, I

600
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: mean I get what you're saying and that it's not fair,

601
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: but I mean, the NBA only let in sixteen of

602
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: thirty teams into the playoffs before, so now they're trying

603
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: to extend it. The NBA feeling very fourth grade soccer

604
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: where everybody gets a trophy? Right? Is that the Is

605
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: that the vibe here? I I would say so, but

606
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, I do think and it could be part

607
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: of it having to do with what makes college basketball

608
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: so great? Is the one and done format in marchmat Yeah,

609
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: nobody pays it. If the play and has Luca and

610
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Steph Curry exactly, that's must set. That will probably be

611
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the highest rate of game of the season to date,

612
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: that would be my guess. Yes, And so I think

613
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: maybe they're trying to capitalize in a little bit of that,

614
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, because sports fans gravitate towards the one and done.

615
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: It's why the NFL playoffs are so interesting, because if

616
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: you get into a real series, I'd say of the time,

617
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: the better team is going to win, you know, so

618
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: when you but when in in one single elimination, anything

619
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: could happen, and so I can see why Lucas be upset.

620
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: But again again, if he was the three seed, I

621
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: don't think he'd be talking about it at all. Now,

622
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban had a good point. That's not awful. I

623
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Speaker 1: just don't think it's practical given the COVID situation. Doesn't

624
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: it make sense to go, let's rank the teams one

625
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: through twenty based on record, and the bottom four have

626
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: to play in So the bottom four more often than

627
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Speaker 1: not are going to come from the East. Because if

628
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you look at the East standings, uh, you want to

629
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of guess where the Dallas Mavericks would be if

630
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: they were playing in the East, which I just gonna

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Speaker 1: remind you is a joke. If you don't pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the NBA um you might want to and he

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Speaker 1: guesses rob without looking, or they'd be a five seed.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you we're so close. They would actually

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Speaker 1: be the four seed. By it looks like half a

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Speaker 1: game over the Hawks. That's quite a drop, rob going

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Speaker 1: from the four two D seven in the play in

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you're in the East, I mean,

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Speaker 1: have you looked at the bottom of the East. Eight

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Speaker 1: is the Knicks, Nine is the Pacers, and that's not

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Speaker 1: a good Pacers team. Ten is the Chicago Bulls. Eleven

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Speaker 1: desperately trying to get it back in are the basement

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Speaker 1: dwelling Toronto raptors um. Personally, I think in the East

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Speaker 1: it would be awesome if we well, we don't have

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Speaker 1: LaMelo ball. But Julius Randolph versus um zach Lavine seems

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Speaker 1: like a fun game. Your boy, Julius Randall, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep up for him a little more. Former Laker Julius Randall.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even mad that he dominated the Lakers the

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Speaker 1: other night, because it's just good to see the former

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Speaker 1: guys balling out. But going back to her your playing situation,

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Speaker 1: I'm more I mean, I know you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the East of the East suck, so I don't

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Speaker 1: really care too much about that. But if you're in

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference and now with Jamal Murray tarin his knee,

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Speaker 1: which was very unfortunate, it is not only possible, I

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Speaker 1: would say it's likely that you could have a playing

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Speaker 1: tournament featuring Nicola Yokich, Zion Williamson, Steph Curry, and Luca Dodge.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty stacked. I don't know if the Nuggets fall

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Speaker 1: that far. I mean, I know Jamal Murray is a big,

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Speaker 1: big loss. Um. I think the more interesting angle on

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Speaker 1: the Jamal Murray losses if you're the Lakers before you

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Speaker 1: did not want to face Denver in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to have to go Denver Utah right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Denver Utah is that challenging, do you well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Utah is a real threat to begin with,

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Speaker 1: So I think that. So how do you rank the

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Speaker 1: West today, April? Yeah? I mean, if I'm taking everybody

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Speaker 1: healthy except for Jamal Murray, because who's can I leave

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Speaker 1: the Lakers in because you know I'm having the number

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Speaker 1: one sou in the playoffs? Oh Clippers, wow, Jazz go

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Speaker 1: forward with those sons. Nuggets. I can't wait for the

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Speaker 1: paper Clips to lose in the second round to somebody,

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Speaker 1: maybe Phoenix. I don't know if Phoenix is built to

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Speaker 1: guard them. Michael Bridges is a really good defender and

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Speaker 1: the Clippers are gonna have problem. Chris Paul is just

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Speaker 1: gonna beat them up. Um. I don't know who guards

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Speaker 1: d book. Is that a Paul George assignment? It would

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Speaker 1: have to because they don't put Hawaii on guys like

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Speaker 1: like they used to back in Toronto, and Antonio Kauai

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Speaker 1: is no longer the lockdown defender throughout a game. He

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Speaker 1: can do it in spurts, but he's definitely not the

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Speaker 1: guy that he was. The hell bent I've got to

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Speaker 1: win this series. Attitude from Chris Paul against the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: You know how fired up he's going to be to

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Speaker 1: face them. You know how many hamstrings he would pull

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Speaker 1: in that just like my guy from my guy, Karen

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Speaker 1: Butler's that he wants it so bad he's hurt himself,

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Speaker 1: and sure enough he did. I think the Sons can

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Speaker 1: win that series against the Clippers. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they will. Second round Sons right now would face somebody

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Speaker 1: from the plane in and Lakers. As of currently at

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Speaker 1: the five, they would face the Jamal Murray Less Nugs

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Speaker 1: and then Utah or whoever the eight seed is, but

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Speaker 1: just don't sleep on those Jazz plus nine point five

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Speaker 1: point differential. Wow, just staggering, all right, Rob g So Um,

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Speaker 1: that kind of wraps up today's podcast. I'm sure Reggie

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Speaker 1: Miller fans are are gonna clamb mur from my head.

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Speaker 1: I get that, I understand. Um, reasonable minds can disagree,

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Speaker 1: but we'll talk to you tomorrow. Mm hm